A Very Mixed Bag! Arsenal's August Player Ratings!

[@abdullahibnmiah2986]

James is the best signing of AFTV. Credit to him!

[@leosylver7]

MAKE THIS A Monthly SEGMENT! Guys

[@GrizzlyGamesNorway]

But with out Laurie

[@williamtkelleher]

@@rolandprat9648The guy can barely speak and he's a presenter lol

[@camk6847]

Second this

[@syncopaint_minis3016]

@@rolandprat9648clueless Cecil

[@wapdaddy4498]

So just from these comments we have established that they should get rid of Laurie, Cecil and James! Haha grow up.

[@ApArsenal]

Something we forget about Martinelli, his entire support system is dismantled on the left side, with new players in like Havertz Rice for a bit, the RB position occupied by various. The Striker changing with Eddie, Jesus, Tosserd.

[@akeelward9720]

Was also the person playing in eddie and veira for there penalties..assist odegaard in the United game and assisted eddie....don't sleep on the elli

[@lukebrown5433]

Saka a 7 😂 boy can do no wrong , scored a great goal and absolutely nothing else

[@TheNiuShow96]

rice assist

[@bloodlinetmd]

So saka is 6/7 where was he against Utd, Dalot pocketed him. The bias is crazy, martinelli’s been better

[@dblaze9757]

Nelson made the pre-assist pass to Vieira in the counter attack that led to Jesus goal, he hassled a loose ball. James got that one right imo.

[@joshnash2186]

Anyone else think Cecil is clueless

[@apt9238]

Had to stop watching when they gave Havertz’s 2s. I know he’s not everyone’s cup of tea but he’s started every game for us so far culminating in a Community Shield win and 10pts out of 12 in the league

[@bindiboo001]

​@@apt9238A 2 was generous I would have said 1 maximum for Havertz

[@martyfakenewsman101]

@@bindiboo001same

[@martyfakenewsman101]

@@apt9238na cmon havertz been useless lmao

[@domingo6034]

Turkish rocking the crocs and dropping hard fax, love him.

[@olumideoyedemi5202]

I think Laurie and James are more spot on their ratings but turkish and cecil are biased (more of their feelings about the player than performance)

[@alihasan3860]

Cecil just copies what Turkish says that’s all. The man has no brain cells and is a dent

[@joaobosco4577]

Never felt so much shame of our fan base when the subject is Havertz. Don't know why they hate him so much. Doesn't have reasons. He is playing a defensive role he never had, playing in the left side which he never had and must be in the attacking zone as well. So he is really trying to fit our system. He was never a ball keep guy and is learning this too. It's a 5/10 performance because the lack of goals.

[@paullyboi1990]

Mate I totally agree! They gave rice a 9 and said rice is playing/learning a new role with new players etc that's exactly the same as havertz😅

[@joaobosco4577]

@@paullyboi1990 at this moment people are very biased and repeating angry opinions. In the "eye test" Havertz is doing well principally in defensive role and aerial duels. Will be essential because our attack is not that high

[@azanahmed6725]

Turkish has found a new scapegoat to go after.

[@PRODBYKD99]

@@joaobosco4577eye test also shows you when he’s involved in the game which he ain’t most of the time

[@jeffmuigai2330]

Thanks James and Turkish for honesty especially on saka

[@wiggyp1v255]

Turkish with the most accurate ratings. I don't think anyone warranted a 9 or 10 though imo.

[@juniorupaka7054]

He was on point.

[@elarabymohammed1]

Too harsh..no one in the team deserves below 4....if havertz is 2 what does caicedo get lmao....turkish was a bit weird in this vid and unfair

[@elarabymohammed1]

@@Jaygooner u know what i mean...theres obviously some sort of standard for premier league teams and especially top teams..2 is a harry maguire own goal/red card performance levels...no one in arsenal is below a 4 and for me odegaard and rice both a 9 then martinelli with an 8... Turkish was annoyingly harsh...

[@elarabymohammed1]

@@Jaygooner Seriously tho Rice not a 9? 2 MOTM performances, orchestrating the midfield, played every single minute, scored a goal, more defensive actions than one can ask for and every game you throw someone different next to him in midfield and he just adapts...come on!

[@elarabymohammed1]

@@Jaygooner okay now go back to any player in the league...tell me who deserves a 9 according to your standards Also idk why im debating with u it's opinions after all but 2 MOTM performances...how many can you say have that lol

[@TheBrigBhoy]

James is the best addition to AFTV. His reasoning is always spot on.

[@BubaJaiteh-l4j]

Turkish ratings are all based off of emotions not logical at all

[@sammutphil]

The 2 for havertz is outrageous. As well as the 9 for rice. Havertz has been a 5. Against united a poor pass and a miss. Ok fine. Saka's midtake versus fulham was muxh worse ane he missed a massive chance against united. Im not shaming Saka, as players make mistakes but to give him a 7 while havertz a 2 is silly. If we think rice uas been a 9 so far does that mean they think thats as good as hes gonna get? I hope not

[@wildchild3862]

The mob mentality in this fanbase is discusting.. horrible example for the kids in a world of bullies and victims. How are we going to tell the kids no bullying and then go after a player this hard with no substance to the criticism.

[@syabiba114]

5 means average. havertz has not been average, he's been disappointing. around 3 is fair

[@wildchild3862]

@@syabiba114 5 is fair, he has done a very good job defensively

[@juniorgunner501]

@@wildchild3862He’s a grown ass man, paid millions of pounds yearly to deliver, and barring one champions league goal he’s been poor during his whole stint in england. He doesn’t need to be babied or mollycoddled he needs to produce on the pitch which up until this point he hasn’t.

[@sammutphil]

@@syabiba114 disagree. 5 is average, and in think that's what he has been. There has been lots of good play from Havertz. But a few bad moments has defined him. While other players have made similar mistakes and you hear nothing.

[@rajatthe1]

Cecil ball knowledge is appalling

[@davidseymour6246]

Never understand the objection to giving “half points” - it would double the available options. Performances often fall in the 6, 6.5, 7, 7.5 range.

[@davidseymour6246]

Er, overreaction? It’s a question of degree - I am simply pointing out that the contributors always struggle with 1-10, so a slight expansion would help.

[@blesscody7020]

Cecil knows nothing about football.. always on this hype of ex footballer bullshit …. He is very bias

[@Coulicool33]

I didn't like your criticism. Way too easy for you guys. Do you guys understand football?

[@antonpashkulev5757]

Saka 7 and Havertz 2 😁 Both had 1 mistake leading to goal. Saka's expectations should be on par with Havertz. The excuse for the tactics is applicable only for the fan favourites.

[@RodTube_]

These ratings are waaaay off

[@samk2723]

Saka scored in Forest harvertz none...

[@levihl0]

Speaking straight facts bruv!

[@nazzn8311]

Saka played good getting goals and assists in those 4 games while Havertz has been net negative not adding anything good. Also every time Havertz got subbed off the team played much better with Vieria replacing him

[@ajayjoseph7561]

Saka scored 2 goals.. you clown

[@SuperYoudontneedtokn]

Cecil talks so much rubbish it’s jarring

[@sjkelly1983]

I’d like to see Nelson come in for Saka in a few games everyone will prepare for Saka it’ll mess teams up them bring Saka on 60mins if Nelson is killing it swap him to the left and put Saka on the right I think he has an important role to play this season and he’s one of our own

[@qwertyvypez]

Trossad played well apart from 1 game against Fulham

[@kennakmokobi7581]

Turkish: Can't fault Declan Rice for the system around him. Also Turkish: Saka just hasn't hit the heights he had since the system around him as changed. Feel like they just rate the players they like, an insane amount of inconsistency

[@leespicer7860]

The hate for Havertz is insane, how can Cecil give him a 2 when his never been given less than a 5 all season by him and rob. It’s like people want him to fail so they can say “told you so” his clearly lacking confidence he need’s support not criticism P.S Turkish how are you wearing a hoodie in this heat

[@minnumseerrund]

Expectations, cost, wages.... what does that have to do with actual performances? Would my 59 yo uncle get a 10 if he started up front cause he came on a free and you didnt expect him to do very well?

[@thedude8251]

Cecil has zero ball knowledge

[@countchocula6885]

It's videos like these that really makes me lose my faith in AFTV. Havertz gets a 2?? What on earth are you smoking??? He was excellent in the Community Shield game (you know the one where we won a trophy over City) and was very good against Palace, Forrest and Fulham (duels won, passing, space created, etc). If you cant see that you just don't know ball. Giving Havertz a 2 because he had a bad game against United is absolutely ridiculous and shows you all have an agenda against him. Genuinely think you lot don't want him to succeed.

[@countchocula6885]

@@kunimitsune177 Ah yes the classic "if you don't have the same opinion as me you don't know football" bs. Save it.

[@martinbillybabosa]

I would leave Havertz on the bench and put him in as a 9 when we need to change style of play up top, it was his best game so far against Manchester City playing that role. I don't think we need him as a midfielder, we have much better options there (Rice, ESR, Nelson, Vieira and even Trossard).

[@Ruony24]

Again. There is a reason why players are players, managers are managers, and fans are fans.

[@olumideoyedemi5202]

Really??? Kai was not good in games but he's not that bad. In reality, the rating of players should be the average of the games in the month.

[@ral2585]

If he was still in Chelsea you’ll be laughing at him

[@KydzPlays]

Why do arsenal fans keep forgetting the price they paid for players like Ben White and Havertz? You should be expecting a lot more from those players for the money spent.

[@minnumseerrund]

@@KydzPlays cause transfer fee isnt on the player and doesnt figure into performance. Would you give him a 10 if he had come in on a free?

[@KydzPlays]

@@minnumseerrund The way he’s been performing, he looks like he came in on a free.

[@djessikabeya3995]

What you guys are doing to Haverts is really disheartening. You know that players watch these videos sometimes and all you do is contribute to the confidence issues. You're judging a player based on attacking when he's probably doing the same work Xhaka used to do. We never looked to Xhaka to score or assist so why do we hold Haverts to higher standards especially when you don't rate him as highly?

[@qwertyvypez]

Yh i agree. They will argue they are being honest, which they should be, but there's ways to say things. There were basically no words of encouragement here

[@robtedesco1]

The guys are being honest and expressing their opinion. Havertz is a £65m pound professional footballer on £300k a week. He is not a small child that needs encouraging in the classroom ! If he has been below par which we all know he has, he should know this and use this as fuel to overcome the situation. If he cant then he doesnt have the right mentality to pull on an arsenal shirt ! Remember its all about the club.. players and managers come and go.

[@qwertyvypez]

If you think only children need encouragement then your understanding of human nature is massively flawed. And if you think your wage changes how much encouragement you need your understanding is even more flawed@@robtedesco1

[@THEUNBIASEDGOONER]

Violated martinelli there like

[@elarabymohammed1]

Even Cecil said people always overlook what he does...shame!

[@paulsears816]

Laurie didn't listen or understand the Viera point

[@oladayofabunmi690]

Me I'm rating the Panel Turkish- 6 (I know he has a high standard) Cecil - 4 - (His rating is biased. I know you don't like Kai. I hope he proves you wrong) Laurie- 6 ( He say it the way it is sometimes lol) James - 10 (He knows the game tactical insight on point)

[@trashpanda5379]

You all can be so unfair in your criticism. 7s for Saka and Martinelli and 2s for Havertz? Turkish happy to say it’s tactics for those two and saliba but when it comes to Havertz who is also learning a new system but at a different position it’s different somehow. Maybe read that Ødegaard quote about how G/As can really change how people judge you even if you’ve been playing poorly. That’s what it’s been for Havertz who had been far from perfect but isn’t doing nothing. Please think about his tactical profile and role on this team and then you’ll know what’s expected of him. Fun Fact: Kai Havertz has created the second most chances on the team. Some of you would let a complete rumor about his salary factor more into your judgement of him than the chances created stat.

[@markoollonqvist7085]

I need to say one thing about Saka: all the accomplishments (Ballon d'Or nomination, English Player of The Year, etc.) are based on last season, not August. So, imo you shouldn't be using those when talking about August ratings.

[@danielverzijlberg8681]

Great video guys. Put the classic Chris Hudson video in next time. That was my introduction to aftv. Been following you ever since. Greetings from Holland.

[@christopherbull8384]

Cencil just rates players he likes 😂

[@SM-cz5od]

Cecil giving best ratings. James??

[@zookid4]

So this guy marks all the other players based on tactics and havart judge by him not playing good so don't you think new team different tactics and players can affect him also Turkish?

[@brucepowers7164]

Turkish, table your pre-signing Havertz bias and review him based on what Arteta is asking him to do. I know you are not so simple. He is not only being asked to attack.

[@kyleb91]

Havertz getting a 2 a bit harsh. Attacking he’s been awful but the amount of tactical fouls he does when players are on the break is good. People will laugh but they rave about it when Rodri does it.

[@geoffreyjoseph514]

because Rodri does so much more than that.

[@paullyboi1990]

​@@geoffreyjoseph514yeah also Rodri has been in city's team for a few years now, in his first year at city there was question marks over rodri. This fan base needs to give havertz time and a bit of support in my opinion as everyone is so negative

[@juniorgunner501]

@@paullyboi1990Cause for all the hype and ‘potential’ he has, he’s pretty much a void in our midfield, does next to nothing in the 3rd phase never seen someone so passive

[@wildchild3862]

Saka is a 5 for me so far.. bang average start of the season and i dont mean avg for saka, but avg for a prem forward. Havertz also a 5, solid defensively but totally uninspiring going forward.

[@ultraslanmc]

It’s between Rice and Fabio Vieira

[@WaspGenocide]

Wow. The Havertz hysteria is real.

[@JackEric02]

These guys gave Harvetz 2 points too many….guys who gave him 4, stop rating the players….dude is 🐕 💩

[@gunningyoudown3466]

Martinelli a 6?...U MAD he is 8 easily if we consider havertz - got the crazy assist for season's 1st goal - played the pass which got the pen against palace - his linkup play with viera got us the pen again..against Fulham - against utd...he heelflicked...turn a defender and played a great pass ...taking out 3 defenders ...which again got the assist and brought us back in the game...AND OVERALL HE WAS OUR MOST THREATENING PLAYER AGAINST UTD......guy before ratings pls rewatch the matches sheesh...i expect better from Turkish

[@olumideoyedemi5202]

Look at the individual games and find the average for the total games. Not just the way you feel about a player.

[@zookid4]

I wish Turkish wasn't on this video he's why I don't watch every video out too much negative thoughts and opinions, most to just put on a show

[@kyleb91]

Aftv should do a vid at end of season where they gather up all the ratings Robbie does per game and average it out over the season.

[@Aleks-kz2lc]

Tomiyasu's reliability and consistency is similar to Monreal. Can always count on him👏

[@rafaysiddiqi5192]

2 is extremely generous for Havertz

[@petercolvin4150]

Eddie needs to go if we wanna win the league. Would he be anywhere near City's squad nope.

[@tairules7424]

Cecil doesn’t know ball

[@tairules7424]

@@kunimitsune177 seriously 🤨

[@juniorupaka7054]

Cecil is delirious.

[@matthewmottley]

haverts gets a 0...literally hasnt done anything but put on his jersey

[@truenemesisprime550]

Stop being nice we are rating his gameplay not him as a person. Havertz doesn't deserve anything above two. You just said cus I feel bad, thats the real reason you gave him that. He aint done fuck all.

[@George-Armani-20]

Martinelli 6? This is madness

[@jonathanyeong324]

He's a 7 or 7.5 for me

[@elarabymohammed1]

Martinelli is 3rd best after Odegaard and Rice IMO

[@dunuobinna7574]

Martinelli is a 5 for me if I'm to be honest. He is too predictable and too one dimensional. His delivery with crosses has sadly not improved and his vision too...well,it only 4 games so... let's see

[@dunuobinna7574]

@ddchan6567 I'll give him a 4. He's been underwhelming save the goal he scored against Nottingham

[@sharijo1]

Turkish, that’s a hypothetical take on Rice/Havertz situation vs Saka/Rams. Saka misplace pass, Rams gets blamed for his position. Havertz misplace pass “he wasn’t to blame for Utd goal, he was actually out of position” … Rams can’t take blame for Saka error, esp if Havertz is taking all the blame for the Utd goal

[@jackmacfaul2829]

Ramsdale should be a 5, bang average

[@mikeyb400]

I'm lost for words in how you guys assess Kai. In the Man u game he bodied several united players including Casimero and Martinez. His link up play was better that Ordegaard and he created several chances for players who just didn't finish the moves for you to realise what he was bringing the team. The fact that he moves so smooth and efficiently has blinded to what he brings to the left side of the pitch. Its no coincidence that Martinelli has been so involved, in particular against United. Thankfully the Manager, coaching staff and player know and can see what Kai is doing. Shame on you all. Fix up and give the boy some confidence, he's one of us now ffs!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@robbob1436]

You guys are CRAZY - Havertz 2!!! Hypocrites: Turkish "I get its a new system, Manager, Players" - 2 Obviously then you dont take into account he's in a brand new team and needs playing time to adapt/build connections

[@American_Gooner]

New toy bias Rice is an 8 at best to start

[@azanahmed6725]

Havertz has been ok in the 3 out of the 5 games he's played so far. Giving him a 2 is just ridiculous.

[@Kalei_808]

Harsh on Saliba. He sees Ben white go left and Saliba goes right. Then ben jumps right. The behind goal angle shows that clearly.

[@Nsypski]

The Havertz thing everyone is so biased. A 2? Stupid. I guarantee you if he scored one or two of his chances or someone scored for his passes everyone here would be calling the signing genius. He’s doing a lot of what arteta wants. High energy, pressing, duel winning. He needs to learn ball progression instead of passing it backwards immediately and probably a sports psychologist.

[@greensgooner639]

wasn't it martinelli that gave away the corner that led to the goal for fulham? Everyone keeps saying zinchenko?

[@dessiparis3553]

Man city 5-2 Psg 4-2 Leverkusen 3- 4 Inter 4-2 Manaco 3-2 Ac Milan 3-2 Brighton 4-1

[@dr.gordon420]

Trendsetters!!!!!

[@SM-cz5od]

Cecil is right about Rice having a slowish start. Timber was the one that absolutely hit the ground running. People have short memories especially because he got that goal against Man United. I would give him a strong 8 and Timber would have got the 9 had not been for the injury.

[@joshuaguevara1309]

Strong 8 is not a slow start

[@SM-cz5od]

@@joshuaguevara1309 That's why I said slowish.

[@joshuaguevara1309]

@@SM-cz5od “slowish” is 5-7. Saying strong 8 is saying very good start

[@robertfitzgerald1021]

Q

[@kimo5059]

Saka deserves 2

[@brownistani]

Life is paim?

[@thebinarycode10101]

After 4 games really? ratings?

[@kisakyegrace2396]

make this after every month

[@chinksey-MEDIA]

Lauries full time now

[@cleonwalden2963]

So you guys just keep throwing it in havertz face that he isn't playing good do you think this will help

[@theblackprotagonist5936]

“Everytime he’s been called upon, I think he’s done what he’s supposed to do” Listen, I like nketia. He puts in 100% every game and has actually proven me wrong (which I am happy about) But when Jesus was out last season Eddie ended up playing 30 games. He scored 4 goals over 3 games boys. BE REALISTIC! That is not doing what we expect him to do! It’s like the “Maguire has never let England down” It’s just not true. Every single time we’ve faced a big team he has done. Apart from Germany in the Euros. And in that game, Muller did him twice and was in and missed the 1 on 1 both times. My point is, Eddie has been fine and was fine last season. But stop this narrative of him doing what’s expected of him. Scoring in 3 games out of 30 I. The premier league is bottom of the barrel stats. THATS FOR A TEAM THAT CAME SECOND AND AVERAGED OVER 60% possessions

[@hermenpdarocha1146]

Eddie Nketiah August Player of the Season

[@hermenpdarocha1146]

Thanks

[@whammo30]

Havertz 3....for his defensive work 😅 he did help out a few times vs utd including a block from eriksen's shot

[@elshaddaibent446]

Crazy how harsh arsenal fans are about Eddie but so lenient on havertz

[@DeterminedFC]

for real like eddie isnt an academy boy thats chosen arsenal everythime and bagged important goals ..makes u wonder wat there motives are

[@elshaddaibent446]

@@DeterminedFC Facts

[@BeanieDoggerson]

Eddie is a year older than Haaland, and our fans pretend he’s a young upcoming kid. He’s a average player at best. Average 24 year old players don’t deserve respect, they deserve to be at clubs like WestHam and championship sides

[@DeterminedFC]

all you did is prove you dont know ball embarrassing @@BeanieDoggerson

[@KesMontiago]

Can’t wait for Havertz to prove Cecil wrong and make him eat humble pie

[@splinter360]

Giving players points for effort is wild. Your own manager said that's a "non-negotiable" which should be obvious.

[@skizzo_deh]

Has to be Mr. Rice Rice 🍚 Baby....but timber would've bn in and around it.. also shout out to Eddie as well.... ✌️💯💫

[@amu7379]

Tomiyasu was bad against Palace regardless of the red card

[@JP3channel]

rice is up there for sure

[@Foppa_afc]

Havertz is a 3 at max

[@rld1982]

why does Turkish's hat say "Life is Paim"?

[@austinschuett4524]

Reiss and Fabio need more playtime

[@maaaaa2982]

Let Havertz cook man😂

[@meteb1100]

Find it quite contradictory how you can state the Rice has to learn new system blah blah blah, but that isn't considered for Havertz who has changed his role far more significantly.

[@GeeWebber]

HAVERTZ IS ARTETAS NICOLA PEPE MOMENT. LET'S SEE IF HE SHOWS THE SAME ENERGY TO HAVERTZ AND DROP HIM AFTER A FEW POOR GAMES PEPE NEVER HAD A RUN OF 4 POOR GAMES. 1 POOR GAME AND HE WAS DROPPED BY ARTETA. LET'S SEE IF THE ARTETA FAVOURTISM PLAYS OUT. WHICH BY NOT SELECTING TROSSARD OR VIEIRA TO START AHEAD OF HIM SHOWS HES SOFTER TO HAVERTZ POOR PERFORMANCES THAN OTHER PLAYERS.

[@DeterminedFC]

lol wierod made things up in your head ....and caps child

[@countchocula6885]

or you're an absolute moron and Arteta knows what he's doing. Would be willing to wager that's the case.

[@GeeWebber]

@DeterminedFC You're a mug if you don't understand how favourtism in football works. It's already playing out dude.

[@milkiasbirhane]

not doing anything wrong doesn't mean he played good. James you paid actor stop all this bullshit hypocrisy.

[@apachemimi9762]

Arsenal doesn't make top 4! Lol...rate that!!

[@omarthompson6053]

Saga is five he not play good

[@lloydduiker9162]

Fan favourites mistakes get over looked, new system is causing a few problems, some players have adapted quicker than others but overall the lowest would be a 5 and the highest a 8! Lets see after game week 10!!!

[@jaredchalker7914]

Looks like Robbie went through a dehydrator 🤣🤣🤣

[@Firefnaff]

M8 Do you think this'll encourage him, £50 tells me he rather not £100 tells me he'll soon show people whats he's all about? M8 I was one person that was on the wagon suggesting Arteta needs to go So no need to convince me about his quality £65M will become a thing of the past, people will see this soon Trust me!!! 😊

[@TheeChronicle]

Im just waiting for ramsdale hate. The raya over ramsdale debate smh lol Turkish is a grass is greener fan. Thats why james and turkish were saying mudryk would be starting over martinelli when we were linked to him 😂

[@BeesBooks21]

Kai has done his bit in regards to pressing and ball winning, but the points where he should be naturally excelling has ultimately flopped. Poor touch’s giving the ball away no end product. Just slows the play and not willing to take risks in final third. 2 dead weight