Against the Odds: Your Deck Sultai (Standard, Magic Online)

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MTGGoldfish

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@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
You can vote for next week's Planeswalker Tribal deck here! www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/against-the-odds-your-deck-sultai-standard-magic-online
@TheWbhaugs
@TheWbhaugs 6 жыл бұрын
So i have a question... Mnemonic Betrayal plus Sundial of the Infinite..?
@techoutsider5631
@techoutsider5631 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWbhaugs It works how you think it does.
@zacharychanoi7544
@zacharychanoi7544 6 жыл бұрын
10 seconds into the matches and I want to see Seth play that G/U ramp deck
@Manifusion
@Manifusion 6 жыл бұрын
I mean... technically this whole decks deal is that... it kinda did? Lol, that deck looks sweet though. +1
@williamstocker8107
@williamstocker8107 6 жыл бұрын
I support this message
@parkerdixon-word6295
@parkerdixon-word6295 6 жыл бұрын
Someone get that shit on the next Fishbowl vote.
@Jonzin4BeatzNYC
@Jonzin4BeatzNYC 6 жыл бұрын
When he scooped that first game, I yelled nooo because I wanted to see more lol
@stephenlofton5403
@stephenlofton5403 6 жыл бұрын
That deck was amazing tho it does feel like it just folds to literally any pressure.
@TsahayluFa
@TsahayluFa 6 жыл бұрын
"Play arch of ORAZCA... whoops I mean ORZAKA relic"... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Says the name right on the wrong card, then says name wrong on right card. Never change seth.
@EmperorsChildren
@EmperorsChildren 6 жыл бұрын
A LEGEND
@keel1701
@keel1701 6 жыл бұрын
I was just coming here to say this. IT'S THE SAME WORD SETH!
@1333julian
@1333julian 6 жыл бұрын
just watching it for the bloopers
@fateweaver9
@fateweaver9 6 жыл бұрын
When the hidden, irrelevant text on Trostrani suddenly hoses your whole deck. Feelsbadman
@carter9449
@carter9449 6 жыл бұрын
it's not that hard to hold up instant speed removal, at least it gives you an opportunity to kill it before it triggers. Seth didn't bother to hold a trophy for it
@brianhart1281
@brianhart1281 6 жыл бұрын
@@carter9449 Yeah that was just dumb. Why would he even play he jadelight ranger when he knows he has trostani in hand and the mana to cast it? Made no sense whatsoever. On top of that, he didn't board in thought erasure, which was his best possible answer to trostani. How could he not board in the card that actually gives him an out against the card that hoses his entire deck?!
@gregoryromine6671
@gregoryromine6671 6 жыл бұрын
@@carter9449 Cast Duress (LIKE A BOSS) , see Trostani (LIKE A BOSS), play ranger (LIKE A BOSS), mill the card that kills the trostani. LIKE A BOSS.
@carter9449
@carter9449 6 жыл бұрын
@@gregoryromine6671 complain about losing LIKE A BOSS
@nuuskye
@nuuskye 6 жыл бұрын
So, the main reason it has that text is because they wanted a clean answer to hostage taker/thief of sanity, lol.
@RCrowlzor
@RCrowlzor 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not gunna lie, after how many times seth has hated on trostani's homeward path ability, him making a deck based on getting hosed by it is pretty hilarious.
@pon3d120
@pon3d120 6 жыл бұрын
Seth is gwtting hit by so michnirony this season
@havendavis4318
@havendavis4318 6 жыл бұрын
seth the reason why it didnt go to exile was because it was cast from hand. the maximize velocity would have been exiled no matter what even if it resolved if it was cast from jumpstart, but it was cast from hand so that doesnt matter. with jumpstart and flashback on mtgo it tells you that the card was “cast with flashback” or other
@tomjackal5708
@tomjackal5708 6 жыл бұрын
he thought it was the one they cast earlier, jump-started. it was a new one from their hand
@adammoldover8769
@adammoldover8769 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. They cast a second copy.
@asmrbyshimmer
@asmrbyshimmer 6 жыл бұрын
"Enigma Danks" There you have it. My favourite mispronunciation of Seth's.
@Gingerbreadley
@Gingerbreadley 6 жыл бұрын
Seth you didn’t catch the shame scoop from the gw elf player because they sacked the wrong walker. Also getting out janked for a bit there in the first round is always hilarious. Plus that deck looked sick.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
I just assumed they kept the right Vivien. Oops!
@ahunter7563
@ahunter7563 6 жыл бұрын
I think they mostly scooped when they saw their library and vivien was now useless
@colinbrown74
@colinbrown74 6 жыл бұрын
Its a shame Gonti rotated out right when this kind of deck got so much support.
@zacharychanoi7544
@zacharychanoi7544 6 жыл бұрын
Colin Brown putting Helm of the Host on Gonti was my favorite thing before rotation.
@envysart797
@envysart797 6 жыл бұрын
Wooooah - why aren't you playing THAT deck??? XD that first deck looked sick!
@blubbblubber4342
@blubbblubber4342 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't this deck designed to actually do that? ;D
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the first deck was sweet. I built a version of it the next day, videos will be coming soon.
@williamstocker8107
@williamstocker8107 6 жыл бұрын
MTGGoldfish this is why we love you better known as saffronolive
@captainstash8645
@captainstash8645 6 жыл бұрын
MTGGoldfish ohmygodness
@alexsaunders4103
@alexsaunders4103 6 жыл бұрын
At 35 min the opponent cast a 2nd maximize velocity, he didn't use jumpstart
@andreleblanc1411
@andreleblanc1411 6 жыл бұрын
That last elf guy is gonna start running trostani after that match
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
Please no. Trostani is brutal.
@alexleblanc6364
@alexleblanc6364 6 жыл бұрын
8:29 games start
@funkypants7297
@funkypants7297 6 жыл бұрын
Pls play g/u overflowing omniscience
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
It's coming!
@ChugThatEstus
@ChugThatEstus 6 жыл бұрын
That last match against the elf deck was so damn hilarous. I've been playing a similar deck for a few weeks now and it's a blast sadly none of my friends play elfs :D
@keilanl1784
@keilanl1784 6 жыл бұрын
But Seth, why would you play this deck? You told Richard you weren't a Steelers fan!
@bowietsang920
@bowietsang920 6 жыл бұрын
40:38 Enigma what...? Seth, please never change. You are a national treasure.
@CL32582
@CL32582 5 жыл бұрын
Seth: pronounces "mnemonic" smoothly Also Seth: "ORZAKA"
@Dlehelacopter
@Dlehelacopter 6 жыл бұрын
This deck gets me excited to do some more brewing. Thanks Seth!
@TheWinterPhoenix
@TheWinterPhoenix 6 жыл бұрын
"Remember kids, your deck doesn't have to be good if your opponent's is" the deck.
@RabbitsRi
@RabbitsRi 6 жыл бұрын
I love the playing your opponents deck against them decks.
@evanmac1761
@evanmac1761 6 жыл бұрын
Dead Man's Chest was surprisingly effective. I enjoyed this one.
@brianhart1281
@brianhart1281 6 жыл бұрын
I was scrolling through standard legal cards the other day and had the thought that it might actually be pretty insane against some of the decks in this meta. I was thinking about it more as a SB card for g/b. Honestly this deck incorporates a lot of cards I've thought are underexplored: thief of sanity, dead man's chest, and hostage taker. Especially hostage taker. Why isn't anyone playing that card?
@ThrabenValiant
@ThrabenValiant 6 жыл бұрын
Ditto Sultai. Get that Pokemon reference in too. ;)
@jeffsirkis2552
@jeffsirkis2552 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including magic online / arena in the titles. I haven’t come around to watching arena content yet so I really appreciate the heads up!
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! It's a pretty easy change that people seem to appreciate, so I think it's worth it.
@vipper57779
@vipper57779 6 жыл бұрын
This deck is awesome! As always Seth. But fyi the maximize velocity didnt exile because it was a second one cast from hand instead of the first one jump started
@lawfullyblind8403
@lawfullyblind8403 6 жыл бұрын
Look at me... I am the elf deck now.
@Zentenski
@Zentenski 6 жыл бұрын
That Deathgorge Scavenger in the Izzet match sure had a... three-course meal
@tsuki7064
@tsuki7064 6 жыл бұрын
1:11:17 they actually kept the old vivien
@r4g1ngph03n1x
@r4g1ngph03n1x 6 жыл бұрын
And scooped because of it.
@tsuki7064
@tsuki7064 6 жыл бұрын
@@r4g1ngph03n1x most likely
@zotha
@zotha 6 жыл бұрын
When Trostani came down I thought oh no that's a lot of explores... then I saw the EOT trigger go on the stack and just started giggling hysterically.
@Diotialate
@Diotialate 6 жыл бұрын
The 1990s version of this deck, with Control Magic, Control Artifact, Confiscate, and Treachery, is a very powerful kitchen table deck. I also had 1x Legacy's Allure, 1x Old Man of the Sea, 1x Rootwater Matriarch, 4 Ray of Command, and if your opponent refuses to play, Keiga the Tide Star for the win-con. Reins of Power is a multiplayer all-star.
@alexkirner5266
@alexkirner5266 6 жыл бұрын
What happens if you play the mirror match?
@mercilessjutsu
@mercilessjutsu 6 жыл бұрын
Hilarious things.....or nothing take your pick. 🤣
@superdimentiobrolyX
@superdimentiobrolyX 6 жыл бұрын
Elfballing the elf deck was the most satisfying win I've ever seen
@tReNhEx100
@tReNhEx100 6 жыл бұрын
See I absolutely love decks like this because plain standard meta kind of gets boring after awhile so I like janky type builds to break up the monotony of mono red or izzet etc ... I constantly see negative comments when you do this and it makes me wonder how I am so different of a MTG player than most because I want to run Decks that are the complete opposite of what everyone else is running .. even if I rarely win... Thank you for this deck idea. I just built it and I'm having fun playing it and it doesn't lose as often as I thought it would. Keep doing great things Seth!!
@cameronhardy8135
@cameronhardy8135 6 жыл бұрын
the animation for mnemonic betrayal on arena is one of my favorite animations on that client, hands down. :)
@petersmythe6484
@petersmythe6484 6 жыл бұрын
(Around 25:00) Trostani in this match up makes me think a lot of the early sets colour hosers, where a card was somewhere between 2 and 4 mana and basically said "if your opponent is playing this deck, they (just about) just lose". Trostani seems a lot like that in this match up.
@joshkulus8387
@joshkulus8387 6 жыл бұрын
i want to see the first deck played next week!!!! omg yesss gthat looked so spicy !!
@runescapewarrior66
@runescapewarrior66 6 жыл бұрын
Seth's laugh and "hahaha...we're elves" made the deck for me
@swift9052
@swift9052 6 жыл бұрын
This deck is incredible. Hats off
@grahamwaterhouse7038
@grahamwaterhouse7038 6 жыл бұрын
bought this deck and my god is it soooo fun to play TY MTGGoldfish :)
@nathanp9684
@nathanp9684 6 жыл бұрын
The last match felt like a great game of EDH!!! I hear Seth laugh like that when he janks them our on commander clash!
@loonar7960
@loonar7960 6 жыл бұрын
That first deck was sweet. You need to play it!
@stephenhousman6975
@stephenhousman6975 6 жыл бұрын
The maximize at 34:19 was from hand. The OP hand count went from 2 to one with voice still being the top card in the yard. So he didn't discard.
@Indomakio
@Indomakio 6 жыл бұрын
That deck was a thing of beauty. It needs some work, like leaving Pacient Rebuilding in the sideboard and maybe main a Ritual of soot against aggro, but I think it can be competitive and mostly really fun. And Seth, I want ot see this is Modern!!!!
@-justicegaming-9079
@-justicegaming-9079 6 жыл бұрын
I loved watching this deck but I lost it vs the trostani in round 2
@jackpabich763
@jackpabich763 6 жыл бұрын
Seth, the maximize velocity at 34:22 was cast from their hand...
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
That would explain why it stayed in the graveyard...
@jackpabich763
@jackpabich763 6 жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish Yeah... At least it wasn't a MODO bug
@musicman88881
@musicman88881 6 жыл бұрын
Seth, at @18:28 you mull'd a hand with 2 sideboard cards, perfect mana, and a threat that disrupts your opponent. The hand was great! :(
@jancukasu
@jancukasu 6 жыл бұрын
The last match... OMG, it's sooo painful to watch... if you're the opponent :p But really, respect the opponent to keep on playing.
@MrUshiikun
@MrUshiikun 6 жыл бұрын
This deck looked fun, and you were clearly having fun playing it! My only question is if Patient Rebuilding is good right now with all the Golgari\Jumpstart decks?
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
In theory milling the opponent isn't great, but we are a Mnemonic Betrayal deck, so putting cards in the opponent's graveyard is important.
@johnnyandthepnuemoni
@johnnyandthepnuemoni 6 жыл бұрын
That first opp forcing a simic deck without the card support. That's a bold strategy Cotton.
@lilispoon369
@lilispoon369 6 жыл бұрын
If only Gonti was still in the format... He will always be in our hearts as a generally good value 4 drop in Standard...
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
Gonti would be too perfect for this deck :(
@OdinHerjan
@OdinHerjan 6 жыл бұрын
This is the match you want to see! 57:28
@ryanroberts5422
@ryanroberts5422 6 жыл бұрын
The final match against elves was cinematic gold
@stephenhousman6975
@stephenhousman6975 6 жыл бұрын
Thief of Sanity is a very common card in UB decks not surprised someone started putting in trostani in GW decks.
@jonathanholleman5900
@jonathanholleman5900 6 жыл бұрын
"We have our oppenents entire deck in our hand." -Seth
@sator_project
@sator_project 6 жыл бұрын
All mirror matches, what are the odds?
@Darchias
@Darchias 6 жыл бұрын
It would have went to exile if he jump-started it, but that copy of Maximize Velocity was cast from hand. That feel when double Dead Man’s Chest pumps the opponent’s Crackling Drake
@ordeithx
@ordeithx 6 жыл бұрын
This was fun to watch, but can we get more Arena. It's a better viewing experience.
@ecoKady
@ecoKady 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Seth, now I need to find room in my Golgari sideboard for Dead Man's Chest for the drakes match.
@alexandrovich17
@alexandrovich17 6 жыл бұрын
Normally i like when you play on magic online. But mnemonic betrayal animation on magic arena is so cool.
@rjclune719
@rjclune719 6 жыл бұрын
There was a point vs elves (I think it was game 2) where I think you should have played patient rebuilding. You won anyway so it's no big deal but they ended the game with 7 cards in Library, so you definitely could have just milled them out. I can see how it was more fun to just Hostage Taker their lords, though :)
@ExtremeMedium
@ExtremeMedium 6 жыл бұрын
Petition to rename this deck "Stop Hitting Yourself Sultai"
@DarthTUK
@DarthTUK 6 жыл бұрын
I remember Thief of Sanity from my prerelease pool. The games when it wasn't removed right away weren't even close.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if Thief of Sanity sticks around it runs away with the game.
@offeral
@offeral 6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy decks that have a random assortment of cards in one or twos; never play the same game twice :)
@burden323
@burden323 6 жыл бұрын
Did you consider Drowned Secrets in place of Patient rebuilding? If so why rebuilding over secrets, it seems like you have enough blue spells to make it worthwhile and it comes down faster?
@Feyamius
@Feyamius 6 жыл бұрын
this deck is pure beauty
@kaiquebrasil1031
@kaiquebrasil1031 6 жыл бұрын
I just wanna see some more of this deck, it's was so much fun! :D ps: Also, you should play that GU Ramp deck XD
@ruperthaynes2723
@ruperthaynes2723 6 жыл бұрын
Love decks like this i run a Grixis Build aiming to use mine and my opponents GY. Videos like this are i feel make better viewing too as alot more random plays
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
Decks like this are inconsistent, but super fun, since you never know what will happen.
@ruperthaynes2723
@ruperthaynes2723 6 жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish Thats my exact point from a viewers perspective its fun to see random wacky stuff happening, not just the usua meta style games.l I normally watch just to see some deck ideas some synergies i may have missed or just to see a snapshot of the meta and what im likely to be facing till your next vids. But most of all we come for the content and stay for the punts lol
@crazycappie
@crazycappie 6 жыл бұрын
"Your Deck Sultai? What's your finisher?" "Your finisher." "Trostani." "Concede."
@meatscraps
@meatscraps 6 жыл бұрын
with dredge back in modern, I really wanna play Mnemonic Betrayal in a mill deck.. maybe with tron lands to cast all the opponent's stuff
@REON-pw5ze
@REON-pw5ze 6 жыл бұрын
25:05 "ORZACA RELIC" Blood coming out of my ear right now
@jerzane5617
@jerzane5617 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think I can support a deck that encourages stealing people's property ;P Jokes aside, what a sweet deck! Looking forward to the next Against the Odds.
@seanhenry5167
@seanhenry5167 6 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact, Melissa DeTora sited exactly these cards as the reason Trostani has that last line of text. She said specifically Hostage Taker, but all the cards fit in that same vein.
@dialup56k
@dialup56k 6 жыл бұрын
I've built a sweet Dimir version with Sirens Ruse, Quasiduplicate, warkite, connive. I suspect FFL built a real version and added the Trostani hoser last minute.. 😀
@dboeify
@dboeify 6 жыл бұрын
"Enigma Dake" I love it.
@SirDerpinmire
@SirDerpinmire 6 жыл бұрын
> Dead man's chest the enigma drake, stealing 9 cards > Their crackling drake gets +7 power for lethal from all those cards in exile Yeah that did not go as expected hahaha
@13eetle13omber
@13eetle13omber 6 жыл бұрын
This deck is so sweet. You're my hero xD
@pwoo581
@pwoo581 6 жыл бұрын
That UG ramp deck was sweet
@csuryolaksono138
@csuryolaksono138 6 жыл бұрын
I remember Noxious plays mnemonic betrayal on Arena. That card animation is so creepy.
@daemonCaptrix
@daemonCaptrix 6 жыл бұрын
Mnemonic Betrayal DOES have combo potential with Duskmantle Guildmage and Bloodchief Ascension, and possibly others.
@Canadian_Ry
@Canadian_Ry 6 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! well done :D
@vipper57779
@vipper57779 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this deck wants a journey to eternity or 2. Maybe over relic or something? Also maybe a brontodon? This deck makes me miss Gonti tho!
@Amphidsf
@Amphidsf 6 жыл бұрын
TIL Deadman's chest isn't Exile Facedown
@bryantan4228
@bryantan4228 6 жыл бұрын
1:11:13 You didn’t notice, but that was a shame concession. Opponent kept the wrong Vivian
@LionWithShades
@LionWithShades 6 жыл бұрын
Seth!!! Play a commander version of this for commander clash!!
@grantreiber382
@grantreiber382 6 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to but Thief of Sanity is legendary. Best I could decide on was new Lazav. Then you can copy the abilities once it's in your graveyard
@Obelion_
@Obelion_ 6 жыл бұрын
need a modern version for this!
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
Modern offers a lot more options, that's for sure.
@nathanjohnson5088
@nathanjohnson5088 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Tristan’s is rough!!!!! That was a painful game to watch lol
@StellaTerraClemens
@StellaTerraClemens 6 жыл бұрын
I want it to be called "I Drink Your Milkshake"
@LunaLasceria
@LunaLasceria 6 жыл бұрын
27:07 - Not really sure about the wisdom of casting their creature from exile when we KNOW they have a Trostani in hand that they can play next turn...
@jacefairis1289
@jacefairis1289 6 жыл бұрын
Seth that maximize velocity didn't get exiled because it was a different maximize velocity.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, good call.
@ChrisWalter0517
@ChrisWalter0517 6 жыл бұрын
I think unmoored ego should have a place in the sideboard specifically for Trostani
@d.b.scoville
@d.b.scoville 3 жыл бұрын
Why didnt seth just assume the maximize velocity was from the opponents hand (Which it was)
@ZoidsNut
@ZoidsNut 6 жыл бұрын
If I had an interest in playing standard it would be this deck, because then I can play every deck in the format. =)
@bryantan4228
@bryantan4228 6 жыл бұрын
19:23 Says Arch of Orazca Then says Orzaca Relic So Seth pronounces Orazca wrong only when playing relic, but pronounces it right elsewhere
@Moffatt966
@Moffatt966 6 жыл бұрын
Tosses the perfect removal for Trostani in the bin and immediately starts saying the deck lost to her
@fateweaver9
@fateweaver9 6 жыл бұрын
Sultai Your Deck. Trostani: " Bitch, please."
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
Basically, yep.
@Relisysification
@Relisysification 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there is a modern deck list with tron, mnemonic, control?
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
Storming off with the opponent's Modern Storm deck would be the greatest thing in the history of Magic.
@StellaTerraClemens
@StellaTerraClemens 6 жыл бұрын
He reminds me of the "I'm such a happy Chewbacca" video during the Elfball match.
@DiogoVKersting
@DiogoVKersting 6 жыл бұрын
I wanted to see if the Omniscience guy had any other win conditions other than Nezahal. Pretty sure you could try chumping Nezahal for a few turns (you had the thief as card engine). With a lot of luck maybe even milling the opponent?
@jackpabich763
@jackpabich763 6 жыл бұрын
It's impossible. Has the Nexus of Fate
@DiogoVKersting
@DiogoVKersting 6 жыл бұрын
Ohh, of course. I see it now.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the problem was infinite free turns.
@ziziorens348
@ziziorens348 6 жыл бұрын
I will never understand Seth. Says Arch of Orazca right, them IMMEDIATELY says orZACA relic. Wtf?
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 6 жыл бұрын
I have to keep all of you on your toes ;)
@Archonel
@Archonel 6 жыл бұрын
@@MTGGoldfish You've become a self-marketing genius, dude :)
@funkypants7297
@funkypants7297 6 жыл бұрын
Can you exile a land with thief of sanity and just never be able to play it? Or can you only get the nonlands?
@lordstov8592
@lordstov8592 6 жыл бұрын
its "cast" so nonlands, "play" lets you get lands
@lordstov8592
@lordstov8592 6 жыл бұрын
sorry, misread, you can exile a land
@murdockberk8888
@murdockberk8888 6 жыл бұрын
Don't the -X cards negate the value of chest?
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