Against the Odds: Your Deck Sultai (Standard, Magic Online)

[@MTGGoldfish]

You can vote for next week's Planeswalker Tribal deck here! www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/against-the-odds-your-deck-sultai-standard-magic-online

[@TheWbhaugs]

So i have a question... Mnemonic Betrayal plus Sundial of the Infinite..?

[@techoutsider5631]

@@TheWbhaugs It works how you think it does.

[@zacharychanoi7544]

10 seconds into the matches and I want to see Seth play that G/U ramp deck

[@Manifusion]

I mean... technically this whole decks deal is that... it kinda did? Lol, that deck looks sweet though. +1

[@williamstocker8107]

I support this message

[@parkerdixon-word6295]

Someone get that shit on the next Fishbowl vote.

[@Jonzin4BeatzNYC]

When he scooped that first game, I yelled nooo because I wanted to see more lol

[@stephenlofton5403]

That deck was amazing tho it does feel like it just folds to literally any pressure.

[@TsahayluFa]

"Play arch of ORAZCA... whoops I mean ORZAKA relic"... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Says the name right on the wrong card, then says name wrong on right card. Never change seth.

[@EmperorsChildren]

A LEGEND

[@keel1701]

I was just coming here to say this. IT'S THE SAME WORD SETH!

[@1333julian]

just watching it for the bloopers

[@fateweaver9]

When the hidden, irrelevant text on Trostrani suddenly hoses your whole deck. Feelsbadman

[@carter9449]

it's not that hard to hold up instant speed removal, at least it gives you an opportunity to kill it before it triggers. Seth didn't bother to hold a trophy for it

[@brianhart1281]

@@carter9449 Yeah that was just dumb. Why would he even play he jadelight ranger when he knows he has trostani in hand and the mana to cast it? Made no sense whatsoever. On top of that, he didn't board in thought erasure, which was his best possible answer to trostani. How could he not board in the card that actually gives him an out against the card that hoses his entire deck?!

[@gregoryromine6671]

@@carter9449 Cast Duress (LIKE A BOSS) , see Trostani (LIKE A BOSS), play ranger (LIKE A BOSS), mill the card that kills the trostani. LIKE A BOSS.

[@carter9449]

@@gregoryromine6671 complain about losing LIKE A BOSS

[@nuuskye]

So, the main reason it has that text is because they wanted a clean answer to hostage taker/thief of sanity, lol.

[@RCrowlzor]

I'm not gunna lie, after how many times seth has hated on trostani's homeward path ability, him making a deck based on getting hosed by it is pretty hilarious.

[@pon3d120]

Seth is gwtting hit by so michnirony this season

[@havendavis4318]

seth the reason why it didnt go to exile was because it was cast from hand. the maximize velocity would have been exiled no matter what even if it resolved if it was cast from jumpstart, but it was cast from hand so that doesnt matter. with jumpstart and flashback on mtgo it tells you that the card was “cast with flashback” or other

[@tomjackal5708]

he thought it was the one they cast earlier, jump-started. it was a new one from their hand

[@adammoldover8769]

Yes. They cast a second copy.

[@asmrbyshimmer]

"Enigma Danks" There you have it. My favourite mispronunciation of Seth's.

[@Gingerbreadley]

Seth you didn’t catch the shame scoop from the gw elf player because they sacked the wrong walker. Also getting out janked for a bit there in the first round is always hilarious. Plus that deck looked sick.

[@MTGGoldfish]

I just assumed they kept the right Vivien. Oops!

[@ahunter7563]

I think they mostly scooped when they saw their library and vivien was now useless

[@colinbrown74]

Its a shame Gonti rotated out right when this kind of deck got so much support.

[@zacharychanoi7544]

Colin Brown putting Helm of the Host on Gonti was my favorite thing before rotation.

[@envysart797]

Wooooah - why aren't you playing THAT deck??? XD that first deck looked sick!

[@blubbblubber4342]

Isn't this deck designed to actually do that? ;D

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah, the first deck was sweet. I built a version of it the next day, videos will be coming soon.

[@williamstocker8107]

MTGGoldfish this is why we love you better known as saffronolive

[@captainstash8645]

MTGGoldfish ohmygodness

[@alexsaunders4103]

At 35 min the opponent cast a 2nd maximize velocity, he didn't use jumpstart

[@andreleblanc1411]

That last elf guy is gonna start running trostani after that match

[@MTGGoldfish]

Please no. Trostani is brutal.

[@alexleblanc6364]

8:29 games start

[@funkypants7297]

Pls play g/u overflowing omniscience

[@MTGGoldfish]

It's coming!

[@ChugThatEstus]

That last match against the elf deck was so damn hilarous. I've been playing a similar deck for a few weeks now and it's a blast sadly none of my friends play elfs :D

[@keilanl1784]

But Seth, why would you play this deck? You told Richard you weren't a Steelers fan!

[@bowietsang920]

40:38 Enigma what...? Seth, please never change. You are a national treasure.

[@CL32582]

Seth: pronounces "mnemonic" smoothly Also Seth: "ORZAKA"

[@Dlehelacopter]

This deck gets me excited to do some more brewing. Thanks Seth!

[@TheWinterPhoenix]

"Remember kids, your deck doesn't have to be good if your opponent's is" the deck.

[@RabbitsRi]

I love the playing your opponents deck against them decks.

[@evanmac1761]

Dead Man's Chest was surprisingly effective. I enjoyed this one.

[@brianhart1281]

I was scrolling through standard legal cards the other day and had the thought that it might actually be pretty insane against some of the decks in this meta. I was thinking about it more as a SB card for g/b. Honestly this deck incorporates a lot of cards I've thought are underexplored: thief of sanity, dead man's chest, and hostage taker. Especially hostage taker. Why isn't anyone playing that card?

[@ThrabenValiant]

Ditto Sultai. Get that Pokemon reference in too. ;)

[@jeffsirkis2552]

Thanks for including magic online / arena in the titles. I haven’t come around to watching arena content yet so I really appreciate the heads up!

[@MTGGoldfish]

You're welcome! It's a pretty easy change that people seem to appreciate, so I think it's worth it.

[@vipper57779]

This deck is awesome! As always Seth. But fyi the maximize velocity didnt exile because it was a second one cast from hand instead of the first one jump started

[@lawfullyblind8403]

Look at me... I am the elf deck now.

[@Zentenski]

That Deathgorge Scavenger in the Izzet match sure had a... three-course meal

[@tsuki7064]

1:11:17 they actually kept the old vivien

[@r4g1ngph03n1x]

And scooped because of it.

[@tsuki7064]

@@r4g1ngph03n1x most likely

[@zotha]

When Trostani came down I thought oh no that's a lot of explores... then I saw the EOT trigger go on the stack and just started giggling hysterically.

[@Diotialate]

The 1990s version of this deck, with Control Magic, Control Artifact, Confiscate, and Treachery, is a very powerful kitchen table deck. I also had 1x Legacy's Allure, 1x Old Man of the Sea, 1x Rootwater Matriarch, 4 Ray of Command, and if your opponent refuses to play, Keiga the Tide Star for the win-con. Reins of Power is a multiplayer all-star.

[@alexkirner5266]

What happens if you play the mirror match?

[@mercilessjutsu]

Hilarious things.....or nothing take your pick. 🤣

[@superdimentiobrolyX]

Elfballing the elf deck was the most satisfying win I've ever seen

[@tReNhEx100]

See I absolutely love decks like this because plain standard meta kind of gets boring after awhile so I like janky type builds to break up the monotony of mono red or izzet etc ... I constantly see negative comments when you do this and it makes me wonder how I am so different of a MTG player than most because I want to run Decks that are the complete opposite of what everyone else is running .. even if I rarely win... Thank you for this deck idea. I just built it and I'm having fun playing it and it doesn't lose as often as I thought it would. Keep doing great things Seth!!

[@cameronhardy8135]

the animation for mnemonic betrayal on arena is one of my favorite animations on that client, hands down. :)

[@petersmythe6484]

(Around 25:00) Trostani in this match up makes me think a lot of the early sets colour hosers, where a card was somewhere between 2 and 4 mana and basically said "if your opponent is playing this deck, they (just about) just lose". Trostani seems a lot like that in this match up.

[@joshkulus8387]

i want to see the first deck played next week!!!! omg yesss gthat looked so spicy !!

[@runescapewarrior66]

Seth's laugh and "hahaha...we're elves" made the deck for me

[@swift9052]

This deck is incredible. Hats off

[@grahamwaterhouse7038]

bought this deck and my god is it soooo fun to play TY MTGGoldfish :)

[@nathanp9684]

The last match felt like a great game of EDH!!! I hear Seth laugh like that when he janks them our on commander clash!

[@loonar7960]

That first deck was sweet. You need to play it!

[@stephenhousman6975]

The maximize at 34:19 was from hand. The OP hand count went from 2 to one with voice still being the top card in the yard. So he didn't discard.

[@Indomakio]

That deck was a thing of beauty. It needs some work, like leaving Pacient Rebuilding in the sideboard and maybe main a Ritual of soot against aggro, but I think it can be competitive and mostly really fun. And Seth, I want ot see this is Modern!!!!

[@-justicegaming-9079]

I loved watching this deck but I lost it vs the trostani in round 2

[@jackpabich763]

Seth, the maximize velocity at 34:22 was cast from their hand...

[@MTGGoldfish]

That would explain why it stayed in the graveyard...

[@jackpabich763]

@@MTGGoldfish Yeah... At least it wasn't a MODO bug

[@musicman88881]

Seth, at @18:28 you mull'd a hand with 2 sideboard cards, perfect mana, and a threat that disrupts your opponent. The hand was great! :(

[@jancukasu]

The last match... OMG, it's sooo painful to watch... if you're the opponent :p But really, respect the opponent to keep on playing.

[@MrUshiikun]

This deck looked fun, and you were clearly having fun playing it! My only question is if Patient Rebuilding is good right now with all the Golgari\Jumpstart decks?

[@MTGGoldfish]

In theory milling the opponent isn't great, but we are a Mnemonic Betrayal deck, so putting cards in the opponent's graveyard is important.

[@johnnyandthepnuemoni]

That first opp forcing a simic deck without the card support. That's a bold strategy Cotton.

[@lilispoon369]

If only Gonti was still in the format... He will always be in our hearts as a generally good value 4 drop in Standard...

[@MTGGoldfish]

Gonti would be too perfect for this deck :(

[@OdinHerjan]

This is the match you want to see! 57:28

[@ryanroberts5422]

The final match against elves was cinematic gold

[@stephenhousman6975]

Thief of Sanity is a very common card in UB decks not surprised someone started putting in trostani in GW decks.

[@jonathanholleman5900]

"We have our oppenents entire deck in our hand." -Seth

[@sator_project]

All mirror matches, what are the odds?

[@Darchias]

It would have went to exile if he jump-started it, but that copy of Maximize Velocity was cast from hand. That feel when double Dead Man’s Chest pumps the opponent’s Crackling Drake

[@ordeithx]

This was fun to watch, but can we get more Arena. It's a better viewing experience.

[@ecoKady]

Thanks Seth, now I need to find room in my Golgari sideboard for Dead Man's Chest for the drakes match.

[@alexandrovich17]

Normally i like when you play on magic online. But mnemonic betrayal animation on magic arena is so cool.

[@rjclune719]

There was a point vs elves (I think it was game 2) where I think you should have played patient rebuilding. You won anyway so it's no big deal but they ended the game with 7 cards in Library, so you definitely could have just milled them out. I can see how it was more fun to just Hostage Taker their lords, though :)

[@ExtremeMedium]

Petition to rename this deck "Stop Hitting Yourself Sultai"

[@DarthTUK]

I remember Thief of Sanity from my prerelease pool. The games when it wasn't removed right away weren't even close.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah, if Thief of Sanity sticks around it runs away with the game.

[@offeral]

I really enjoy decks that have a random assortment of cards in one or twos; never play the same game twice :)

[@burden323]

Did you consider Drowned Secrets in place of Patient rebuilding? If so why rebuilding over secrets, it seems like you have enough blue spells to make it worthwhile and it comes down faster?

[@Feyamius]

this deck is pure beauty

[@kaiquebrasil1031]

I just wanna see some more of this deck, it's was so much fun! :D ps: Also, you should play that GU Ramp deck XD

[@ruperthaynes2723]

Love decks like this i run a Grixis Build aiming to use mine and my opponents GY. Videos like this are i feel make better viewing too as alot more random plays

[@MTGGoldfish]

Decks like this are inconsistent, but super fun, since you never know what will happen.

[@ruperthaynes2723]

@@MTGGoldfish Thats my exact point from a viewers perspective its fun to see random wacky stuff happening, not just the usua meta style games.l I normally watch just to see some deck ideas some synergies i may have missed or just to see a snapshot of the meta and what im likely to be facing till your next vids. But most of all we come for the content and stay for the punts lol

[@crazycappie]

"Your Deck Sultai? What's your finisher?" "Your finisher." "Trostani." "Concede."

[@meatscraps]

with dredge back in modern, I really wanna play Mnemonic Betrayal in a mill deck.. maybe with tron lands to cast all the opponent's stuff

[@REON-pw5ze]

25:05 "ORZACA RELIC" Blood coming out of my ear right now

[@jerzane5617]

I don't think I can support a deck that encourages stealing people's property ;P Jokes aside, what a sweet deck! Looking forward to the next Against the Odds.

[@seanhenry5167]

Fun Fact, Melissa DeTora sited exactly these cards as the reason Trostani has that last line of text. She said specifically Hostage Taker, but all the cards fit in that same vein.

[@dialup56k]

I've built a sweet Dimir version with Sirens Ruse, Quasiduplicate, warkite, connive. I suspect FFL built a real version and added the Trostani hoser last minute.. 😀

[@dboeify]

"Enigma Dake" I love it.

[@SirDerpinmire]

> Dead man's chest the enigma drake, stealing 9 cards > Their crackling drake gets +7 power for lethal from all those cards in exile Yeah that did not go as expected hahaha

[@13eetle13omber]

This deck is so sweet. You're my hero xD

[@pwoo581]

That UG ramp deck was sweet

[@csuryolaksono138]

I remember Noxious plays mnemonic betrayal on Arena. That card animation is so creepy.

[@daemonCaptrix]

Mnemonic Betrayal DOES have combo potential with Duskmantle Guildmage and Bloodchief Ascension, and possibly others.

[@Canadian_Ry]

That was awesome! well done :D

[@vipper57779]

I wonder if this deck wants a journey to eternity or 2. Maybe over relic or something? Also maybe a brontodon? This deck makes me miss Gonti tho!

[@Amphidsf]

TIL Deadman's chest isn't Exile Facedown

[@bryantan4228]

1:11:13 You didn’t notice, but that was a shame concession. Opponent kept the wrong Vivian

[@LionWithShades]

Seth!!! Play a commander version of this for commander clash!!

[@grantreiber382]

I really wanted to but Thief of Sanity is legendary. Best I could decide on was new Lazav. Then you can copy the abilities once it's in your graveyard

[@Obelion_]

need a modern version for this!

[@MTGGoldfish]

Modern offers a lot more options, that's for sure.

[@nathanjohnson5088]

Wow! Tristan’s is rough!!!!! That was a painful game to watch lol

[@StellaTerraClemens]

I want it to be called "I Drink Your Milkshake"

[@LunaLasceria]

27:07 - Not really sure about the wisdom of casting their creature from exile when we KNOW they have a Trostani in hand that they can play next turn...

[@jacefairis1289]

Seth that maximize velocity didn't get exiled because it was a different maximize velocity.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Ah, good call.

[@ChrisWalter0517]

I think unmoored ego should have a place in the sideboard specifically for Trostani

[@d.b.scoville]

Why didnt seth just assume the maximize velocity was from the opponents hand (Which it was)

[@ZoidsNut]

If I had an interest in playing standard it would be this deck, because then I can play every deck in the format. =)

[@bryantan4228]

19:23 Says Arch of Orazca Then says Orzaca Relic So Seth pronounces Orazca wrong only when playing relic, but pronounces it right elsewhere

[@Moffatt966]

Tosses the perfect removal for Trostani in the bin and immediately starts saying the deck lost to her

[@fateweaver9]

Sultai Your Deck. Trostani: " Bitch, please."

[@MTGGoldfish]

Basically, yep.

[@Relisysification]

I wonder if there is a modern deck list with tron, mnemonic, control?

[@MTGGoldfish]

Storming off with the opponent's Modern Storm deck would be the greatest thing in the history of Magic.

[@StellaTerraClemens]

He reminds me of the "I'm such a happy Chewbacca" video during the Elfball match.

[@DiogoVKersting]

I wanted to see if the Omniscience guy had any other win conditions other than Nezahal. Pretty sure you could try chumping Nezahal for a few turns (you had the thief as card engine). With a lot of luck maybe even milling the opponent?

[@jackpabich763]

It's impossible. Has the Nexus of Fate

[@DiogoVKersting]

Ohh, of course. I see it now.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah, the problem was infinite free turns.

[@ziziorens348]

I will never understand Seth. Says Arch of Orazca right, them IMMEDIATELY says orZACA relic. Wtf?

[@MTGGoldfish]

I have to keep all of you on your toes ;)

[@Archonel]

@@MTGGoldfish You've become a self-marketing genius, dude :)

[@funkypants7297]

Can you exile a land with thief of sanity and just never be able to play it? Or can you only get the nonlands?

[@lordstov8592]

its "cast" so nonlands, "play" lets you get lands

[@lordstov8592]

sorry, misread, you can exile a land

[@murdockberk8888]

Don't the -X cards negate the value of chest?