AGATHA ALL ALONG EPISODE 8 & 9 REACTION! 1x8 and 1x9 Breakdown and Review | Billy Maximoff • Marvel

[@jarvis1393]

Nicky died the night she didn't kill any witches. I think the implication was that she was somehow prolonging his life by killing other witches.

[@407BRR]

@jarvis1393 possibly. But it's also possible that Death came the night that Nickolas asserted himself and became his own person when he saved those witches.

[@heimsuchen]

also Agatha is posses succubus power which taking other people's power to survive, so i guess both for Nicky and herself?

[@becausemiro]

⁠@@heimsuchenI don’t believe that’s what succubus is. Succubus is a female demon that visits men while they’re asleep, to have intimate intercourse with them night after night to make them ill and lose their mind. That’s not what Agatha does

[@Kydabra]

I'm ready for Hector's comic knowledge on ghost Agatha.

[@jcs1025]

When Agatha was telling Nicky about the limitation of her power, she was basically saying that she needed a potions witch, a protection witch, and a divination witch.

[@JDomino_]

It was wonderful, and seeing Wiccan in his suit is just an absolute dream come true. Joe Locke has done a phenomenal job brining my favorite character in all of media to life.

[@Micisme86]

Fitting that a show about witches would leave breadcrumbs throughout the season

[@jholmes553]

I love this. And they actually hinted at Hansel and Gretel story during Episode 3 where the witch was a friend of Lilia. 🤣

[@jcs1025]

It was really genius the way they split the finale into two episodes. I was skeptical at first, but it was just really good storytelling. Episode eight is the resolution of the road and the confrontation with death. Episode nine is the emotional finale that wraps up Agatha’s story that we still didn’t know and sets it up for the next chapter. Great writing.

[@yack7661]

The day she skipped killing witches, then death came for her son! She was distracting her with collecting bodies. (Of course, that doesn't take away from the evilness of Agatha's character itself.) It was great to see that duality in his character throughout the series and the amount of details that we would now understand if we watch the entire series again.

[@wwaxwork]

What was evil? She never attacked first. Sure she egged them on and scammed them, but she never physically attacked them first. At no point do you see purple light from her magic until after the orange magic. Not saying she was a good person, but if you're the sort of person to try and kill someone just because you were scammed maybe you're not a good person either.

[@misteryman526]

To Agatha's credit, she often told people that the Witches' Road didn't exist.

[@humam9189]

Yeah, and people assuming she doesn't tell amateurs bcs they think the road is dangerous not because it's actually never exist at the first place 😂

[@maryhobbs3250]

Interested to see how Agatha and Billy move forward in MCU projects.

[@JIN-my8ce]

I really want to say it. Dang it, Billy is so handsome. Like in a cool, masculinity aspect. Wiccan role really suit him there.

[@ThePonderer]

It’s great how this really came together into a story of two people desperate to deny death. I love that between Billy and Agatha we have a character clinging onto life for life’s sake, who sees life as the ultimate good, and a character running away from death not because she really wants to live, she just wants to die *less.*

[@jasonmarbach]

This was pretty easily the best tv show to ever have the marvel label attached to it, in my opinion. I guess recency bias, but I genuinely have this in my top five marvel properties of all time, of any kind. I truly think this was an absolute masterpiece. My top 5 marvel projects ever: 1. Logan (2017) 2. Infinity War (2018) 3. Spider-Man 2 (2004) 4. Agatha All Along (2024) 5. Captain America: Winter Soldier (2014)

[@dr.rockso2703]

How is loki not in your top 5?!?

[@jasonmarbach]

@ it’s number 7 or 8 for me, personally. Neck and neck with Netflix Daredevil. I liked the second season of Loki much less than the first, but it’s obviously still incredible

[@mcdudely]

Did i squeal like a little girl when Billy came out in full costume? Yes. Yes i did.

[@abdielbenisrael8906]

Agatha to Wanda, "You're gonna need me". Fast forward it's Wanda's son (Billy) needing Agatha.

[@TheOnlyHawkeye666]

From what I've seen of Death in the comics they got her looking REALLY GOOD. The ending twist was great and kept up with all the other ones they gave us this series....would love a follow up series of Billy and Agatha looking for Tommy while Agatha teaches Billy about Magick lie she did for Wanda in the comics!

[@dr.rockso2703]

Well the third part of this story is gonna be the vision quest show they're making, which will be centered around white vision and apparently have ultron return. So maybe Tommy will show up.

[@VilikesaTuragakula]

I'm so psyched for Vision Quest!!!❤❤❤❤❤

[@jonathanpowell7256]

I love that Rio was about to say "On a road that doesn't exist" but Agatha cut her off.😅

[@Erickivan]

Waited all day for this come out :)

[@_silvermist_]

Finallyyyy, i was waiting for your reactions 😄

[@Carapendy]

To me it seems that like Wanda did with Billy and Tommy, Agatha willed Nicholas into being.. But she did it without the Hex, so Nicky wasn’t tied to it’s existence

[@jeezrice7352]

@@Carapendy Agatha does not have chaos magic she is not capable of willing things into existence or spontaneous creation, she was just saying that she did not use any magic to create him and he was conceived the natural way “from scratch”. I don’t really know why people think she was saying he was made through immaculate conception when she was just highlighting the fact that he was made the natural way a child is made, as opposed to the way Billy and Tommy came into existence.

[@randompeople465]

I love how they adapt this Comic Agatha ghost story to replace wanda to Billy to be his mentor and the way they adapt the Witches road in the Comic too.

[@jonathanpowell7256]

The Salem Seven were real since they existed in Westview before William conjured up the road. Alice, Lilia & Sharon aren't ghosts because they had moved on.😊

[@SerenityValley84]

I would love to see any and all of these characters again, whether it's another season of Agatha, or a coven one off next Halloween, I'll take ANYTHING!!

[@wytheli]

26:23 it's Sharroooonnnnn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jasonmarbach]

Also, we need to put some love on Sasheer Zamata’s name, because she BODIED this role. Incendiary

[@TheCertifiedWino]

@@jasonmarbach fingers crossed she gets to reprise her role as Jennifer Kale in a Midnight Suns team up with Man Thing & Werewolf by Night 🤌🏽

[@LeeCarlson]

William Kaplan is a Wiccan and The Demiurge. Agatha referenced the "tell" when "Teen" manifested the Witches' Road, the way Wanda did with Westview.

[@jonathanpowell7256]

Agatha killed her Salem coven over 50 years before the flashbacks in 1x09.😊

[@implodingnerd]

someone on reddit said something cool "Agatha didn't trade her son for the darkhold, she had the darkhold to look for her son"

[@drudle]

I'm puzzled how they were confused about the whole "I made you from scratch" dialogue, lol. She was amazed she created him without casting a spell, without witchcraft. That she was able to create life without an incantation, amazed at how motherhood is more miraculous than magick is at turning the basics into something like a living creature. It's literally the opposite of what you think it's implying; not that she created a child with no father, as if by some spell, but in the most natural, old fashioned way possible.

[@knighthawk3749]

So who is the father?

[@humam9189]

@@knighthawk3749 it doesn't matter now who is the father, right? Nicky is dead, so is Agatha

[@fazelok]

17:20 - convinced her getting her powers back, is how she is able to become a ghost at all.

[@becausemiro]

My favorite is when Hector pre-guesses what’s about to happen and he’s never right 😂

[@TrueRomancer04]

Holy crap I've never been this early. 🎉🎉 This show is a masterclass in TV writing.

[@fazelok]

5:00 - could be what allows her to be a ghost, possibly forever, allowed to stay, and be her comic-book style self - as Rio agreed, yet later, Agatha decides to be the one to die, yet, Rio didnt come for her soul, like she did Alice - but that could also be because she knew she couldnt face her kid, so she could stay around, as long as Marvel lets her - helping people, causing havoc, and faces her kid.

[@endymionisrafieldeios7362]

"We can kill more witches tomorrow..." That is both so sad and SO messed up...

[@joseantoniogomezrodriguez1724]

Well, the witches didn't died for nothing, all of them got what they wanted. Alice got to break her curse, Lilia got a coven, Jen got her magic back, Agatha got power, and Billy got his brother. That Alice and Lilia died was tragic but they got what they were missing, but because it wasn't the end they didn't leave the road. Only one who was a casualty was Sharon, but she wasn't a witch and didn't want anything.

[@doglorde]

And Sharon got a really yummy glass of wine.

[@justfloatingthrough2457]

My biggest criticism of the Marvel Disney plus shows have always been that the last episodes felt rushed and nothing feels resolved. This is why you separate it to a Marvel Television. This felt like a TV series and the finale felt resolute. Loved this series. And Joe Locke as Billy Maximoff is perfect casting.

[@12chapin]

Who would have thought, the road wasn’t real. Till Billy created. And the son came up with the song, so I think that the first time that witch ask her to help her find the road Agatha realize she could use that to get power from other witches.

[@Lycandros]

I love epilogues to stories.

[@fazelok]

3:55 - also interesting - she couldve take Tommys' soul - but knew his soul wasnt in a body yet... so either - Billy HAD tommys soul, this whole time, and his and Agathas breakthru session - had him 'give it up' into a new body, OR, he somehow... remembered back to the end of the hex, and technically had some kind of mental time travel going on - realizing them 'breathing at the same time', then seemingly... pulling Tommy along, to find a body - was because his mind power, are that strong? idk. because he didnt do that the first time, so either he 'found' Tommys' soul, back in his memory there to go back to, or somehting idk XD.

[@stormborn23]

Compadre, Agustin, "Kiss of Death" is right there wdym embracing Death 🤣 Love y'all.

[@agirlhasnoname567]

“You got that 1756 cough” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@joseantoniogomezrodriguez1724]

I cannot grow food (earth magic) cannot heal (potions/water) protect (fire) Divine (air)

[@PatrickPrejusa]

SHE STARTED TAKING POWERS TO KEEP NICKY ALIVE UNTIL THE DAY NICKY SAID LETS DO IT TOMORROW, SO HE DIED THAT NIGHT. AFTER THAT SHE JUST KEPT DOING IT.

[@jgennitti]

There is not going to be a season 2. From what I understand this is part 2 of a three arc overall story. The first arc was WandaVision, the second arc is Agatha all Along and the third arc will be the Vision Quest show coming up. That’s where you will see this continue.

[@gatomon2002]

I'm happy with the season finale, thought this series was written very well. The only thing is I still have questions about Rio's back story, how she met Agatha, and WHY she loves Agatha. Also need more history with Agatha & her mother. And most importantly how did Agatha get the Darkhold?? I felt for ep.9 if they added an extra 10 mins to explain Rio & Agatha's history, some of their previous interaction in earlier episodes would have waaay more of an impact. Maybe not another full 5-10mins but possibly a post credit scene hinting us no how Agatha originally go the Darkhold?

[@yack7661]

Nah, I think adding more information would have felt rushed and overloaded! That wasn't the direction of the show! Not everything has to be explained... and they can't just meet everyone's expectations!

[@wwaxwork]

The comics exist and they explain a lot.

[@MrDrummerdert97]

This version of Death reminds me a lot of Death from the Sandman show on Netflix! Another dope interpolation of Death

[@marjoe32]

LFG HOMIES

[@LeeCarlson]

People hear Nicky singing his song as he accompanies his mother along the trail, and they pass it on in a colonial-era game of telephone.

[@alicestevens8291]

I liked a lot about this but I decided my favorite is the use of focal closure points. I notice when they are absent. MCU stuff often is the case and usually because of editorial tampering to sell this or that. Here I understand they weren't under such constraints and were given free reign for the most part and I think it shows how effective MCU stuff could be if just allowed to stand on it's own two feet. And they still pulled off establishing for whatever else while doing that. Else I was just down for the performances and visual appeal of this show overall and the last two did not fail on those fronts.

[@Rndmnpc004]

Jac Schaeffer really cooked a big Marvel banger of 2024 with $40M.

[@joebi-wankenobi2426]

She could haunt it! 😂😂😂

[@charlie53echo]

This'll lead into Vision Quest, aka The Young Avengers.

[@LeeCarlson]

Anger is nothing but a mask for Fear.

[@WheelyCat]

53:57 give this man an Oscar! or at least a subscription :)

[@ilosayan]

Sasheer Zamata/Jennifer Kale is also out there in the MCU, and I wonder if she'll show up in future projects.

[@humam9189]

Hopefully we get a midnight suns project featuring her in the future

[@corporealghoul]

I wonder if rio was one of the first extremely powerful green witches. Her and agatha fell in love. Rio macona connection with something and agatha made q bargin with something else. Resulting in rio having to take agathas first born. I think rio wasnt death at thus point but becomes the personification of death later due to whatever reason she had to be the one to take agathas child.

[@ItsMeMattCarter]

Have you wondered if Nicky wasn't actually the son of Agatha and Death and she could only give Agatha time because like Billy he was an abomination. This would also tie into mythology when you think of Hades and Persephone. Only this time death/the underworld and the green world are embodied in one person.

[@acousticks526]

37:30 no, I'd wager that the Death of the Endless is much nicer

[@wwaxwork]

Not saying Agatha is a nice person but she never kills anyone that doesn't blast her or try to kill her first. Even off screen the magic glowed orange first, Agatha didn't use magic first. Peaceful turn the other cheek witches didn't get killed.

[@sunnydub107]

I wonder if other ppl will be able to Agatha’s ghost

[@Elviolli]

We still need a Darkhold origin story. I 100% expected this show to tell us how Agatha got it. They hinted at it, but we got no payoff. So, is this a possible season 2 thing? Or is this going to be part of the Vision series??

[@drudle]

I don't think we really need to find out how? That is, is it important?

[@Elviolli]

It’s a major part of the MCU dude. There was a whole Dr strange movie based on it. How is it not important?

[@drudle]

@Elviolli How Agatha got it? Because it isn't important. It existing was important for MoM but how Agatha obtained it had absolutely 0% relevance in the movie, and now it's destroyed. How Agatha got it can have absolutely no consequence if they choose it. She could have purchased it from another witch at a yard sale.

[@Elviolli]

@@drudle ok well then how bout this. I’m pissed that they used such an important relic in the story of the MCU and elsewhere (agents of shield) and totally glossed over its overall role in the story. I don’t care if you think it’s not important. I wanna know dammit!

[@drudle]

@Elviolli I mean, it's fine if you want to know. But how Agatha got is isn't as important as how it's been used in its history, or by whom else. Like, if you want an entire season of The Adventures of the Darkhold, sure. And if Agatha got it by her and Ghost Rider holding hands and striking a deal with a Mephisto possessed Galactus? Hey, that may be important. But she could have easily found the book in some cave in a no-name witch's dead hands. The way she got it is only as important as they want to make it, and if it wasn't important to this story then it isn't important as far as we know.

[@suspideymx8651]

Mephisto was here 😂😂

[@danielpleitez-martinez7638]

Patroon how much of the show is on there?

[@ItsMeMattCarter]

What about season 2 "Agatha Tags Along"? lol!!!

[@randomname4515]

🎉

[@joshuacoldwater]

24:41 - “was this a trick by Agatha?“ 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

[@bobsavage3317]

☮

[@PIPIL4LIFE]

Let's go Dodgers

[@callmethecommentcountess9329]

Usually I don’t care

[@gutoshime9733]

Why does the guy on the left always start narrating the scenes as if the other two weren't watching the same thing as him? Help lol

[@joseantoniogomezrodriguez1724]

This is the first series that gives entry way to young avengers

[@knighthawk3749]

So what about Ms Marvel and Hawkeye?

[@joseantoniogomezrodriguez1724]

@knighthawk3749 i mean yeah, haven't seen the marvels but the way Hawkeye ended doesn't give like a reason for Kate to search a team, with this it gives a storyline to follow

[@dlnavy3406]

@@joseantoniogomezrodriguez1724 Actually it's the same case for Ms Marvel in The Marvels No big reason for her to search for a team, Ms Marvel was like "okay there's someone who is also young and have power, let's meet them" in the after credit scene

[@erskine1984]

The episodes felt out of sync. I thought that Agatha's back story would have meant more in episode 8 and the last trial in the finale

[@simpayshenaides]

the more i watch the realize its better in the finale as an epilogue

[@yack7661]

Nahh! The point was not making it predecible!

[@drudle]

I'm seeing it as almost like the Machete Order for Star Wars, (which goes Episode IV & V, then II & III, then back to VI for the conclusion.) In a similar sense, what we get is seeing 3/4ths of the present day finale, we go back to the origin of Agatha and Nicholas and the Witch's Road, then we head back to the present to finish off the present day finale. This way, instead of having ALL the cards before heading into the finale, we're kept wondering even after all the action has died down, only to be given the last piece we need to finish the story before concluding it all.

[@yack7661]

@@drudle Exactly! But I guess some people would rather be spoon fed.