Age of Empires 4 - This Is Why The RUS Are OP

[@FrostRare]

LMAO other channels: complain about how faction is OP Aussie: tells you how to reck ppl using op faction

[@leiderhosen7110]

The best way to get something changed is to use and abuse it.

[@bennycostello2472]

I'll tell u who isnt op. Delhi and Holy roman. Both are garbage. I guess delhi would be good in a 3v3 or 4v4 where you arent the one focused and can just chill but same could be said about any faction

[@FrostRare]

@@bennycostello2472 Chinese? That’s my faction really and I can’t win a match.

[@BlaZindeezy]

@@bennycostello2472 yep im done with delhi for now.

[@alexander070]

Finally a historically accurate civ

[@sleepylion9788]

TBH, Rus are only OP in the top tier. Managing production + hunt is extremely micro intensive. Also OP factions tend to be the 1st to be nerfed so i wouldn't get my hope up for keeping these strategies for too long.

[@Danidurga]

Probably but the rest of civis can make the same, I usually like to make 2-3 scouts with survivor tech to take every hunt to the TC. Lot of food protected under the TC, is a great strategy with any civi, with Rus is easier. If you will make the "deer productor landmark", you can make a normal build order like others and that could be unespected for the enemy because you will have the bounty complete and more ;)

[@stringdoll50]

the op atm is the french the guy said scout can carry carcass but that has to be researching, and it cost whooping 275 gold for god sake Rus is amazing but no where near OP as the french The knight raid is literally OP, as unlike others civ they need 3 knight to raid, french only need 2 even 1 due to their bonus also, spread raiding is a thing, having spearman with low mobility not gonna compeletly countering them Ppl here just dont see how pro abuse knight+archer combo

[@lucadesanctis563]

@@stringdoll50 shall we talk bout the 35% bonus hp tech that French hv?

[@stringdoll50]

@@lucadesanctis563 they have bonus reduce speed for their stable, 30% economy tech cheaper, 25 WOOD cheaper resouce node, faster production for vil and scout they are freaking insane early to mid game and ppl have no idea how op THEY ARE

[@sleepylion9788]

@@stringdoll50 Nah, Knight raid gets stopped immediately against Mongol's Mangudai and Rus. Although I agree that France is the best faction overall for newbie/pro, they do well on any map. Plus, you can play them however you like and still do fine.

[@sleepylion9788]

A note about the Springalds, Mongols is the other faction who can get 13 tiles range Springald, thanks to their unique Ovoo upgrade. Plus their unique siege speed & armor upgrade, their Springalds are actually the best in the game, 0.5 less range but with much faster speed. With Yam & Khan's speed combo on top as well, expect to see ballista tank rush from late game Mongols.

[@user-ep6cc6hp9h]

Also Chinese Late game gunpowder setup insta deletes and wins every fight with siege and nest of bees

[@papyto12]

There is also the Kurultai that buffs siege units too.

[@cody5780]

Springald nerf inbound

[@cody5780]

Siege weapons in general probably getting a nerf, way too strong

[@TkTronixYt]

I really like the Rus, didnt play any other civ so far. I love how you have to hunt deer and bring them to your TC, its cool

[@techieadam5031]

I'm glad that you approach it like this which would actually give Relic the opportunity to fine tune it. Rather than what people said about the Orks in DoW, violently snotting in rage at them being a bit OP.

[@borgri5871]

what was wrong about orks? outside dow 2 due to fully upgraded nobz

[@michal4736]

They are op but noone plays them what makes me really happy because love this civ. I met 2 Rus players during like 10-15 games. The most popular is France and England from my observations.

[@1488EVERGETES]

Im a Rus player✌️

[@michal4736]

@@1488EVERGETES Hurray!

[@Vocu]

I decided to play Delhi first because I was always a fan of the elephants and I'm more of a defend until late game player, but I'm really liking Rus now.

[@VirusXAX]

I agree with you, 7 Is the Perfect number for scouts. I do that since day 1 natural and it feels just right.

[@TakedownO44]

What I like about AoE4 is that the difficult factions are the best ones but theyre entirely reliant on how good the player is. A new player on England/France will probably be at an advantage against a new player on Rus/Mongols

[@michaelmiles5110]

I really like that they do this. A lot of games have the starter one's be some of the best and then harder to play ones just not be as good. But it should be the other way around. If you're playing a 3 start difficulty faction, and you've started to perfect that gameplay, you should dominate.

[@TakedownO44]

@@michaelmiles5110 I think the fact that AoE is an RTS is what makes that work. Other games go by the mantra of "make x a challenge for the good players to put themself on even playing ground with the new players" which usually just results in meta slaving anyway :P

[@HallsteinI]

Hi, great video and very informative info about the early scout production and the maths behind it but there were a few times in the video where you stumbled a bit and needed to write something down or look stuff up. Have you considered writing a script to read from so your flow is smoother? Again great video and I had no idea about the power of early warrior monk pressure.

[@bumblewoot]

To combat the the stealing of hunts, the defender just needs a couple scouts with professional scouts. The Rus player may pre kill the deer but they won't hang around. With just 2 scouts you can just pick them up and bring them in

[@turnspender7651]

The problem is that Professional Scouts is very expensive and so hard to do it before Rus, who has extra gold from Hunting Bounty.

[@sleepylion9788]

@@turnspender7651 Yeah, that's pretty hard to stop unless you play Mongol, the only other civ to have access to Stable in tier 1.

[@JRWatchman85]

The lack of stone walls is a big disadvantage for defensive play though.

[@12rowero]

play offensively, create your Calvary hordes and run over your enemy

[@AatamiFin]

AoE2 players: Omg the French are S tier, why would someone play the Mongols or the Rus. Drongo: Hold my beer!

[@omegangerman]

The only kind of counter I could think of would be archers to kill the monks, so you can take out the ranged units with lots of spearmen afterwards. The whole thing as distributed as possible, so as not to be greatly destroyed by the artillery. But this would turn out to be extremely difficult and you would basically have big disadvantages and thus problems. Variant two would be a sneak attack with horsemen in the back, if one should not notice that as an attacker. The only disadvantage of the RUS that I have noticed is that they cannot build stone walls. So the developers must have thought that you can possibly counter them with that somehow.

[@sleepylion9788]

Actually, if you play Mongol, just get their unique Springald upgrade and walah you have 13-range Springalds as well. Along with their speed, you'll decimate the Rus's Springald.

[@annguyenlehoang7779]

OMG i never knew drongo is Putin secret friend 🤣

[@BowmanEA]

China is The Best civ (pls i want social score)

[@MwKShield1]

They might actually be one of the best Civs right now since they have the best Springalds imo now that cav has been nurfed and spearmen were buffed. Springalds were already very strong and Rus have the longest range of Springalds as long as you build High Armory as your Feudal age landmark and get the Banded Arms tech. Their biggest downside is they can't make stonewalls. Also Streltsy got nurfed.

[@ericc9321]

IMO the Abby of the Trinity play is as predictable as the Regnitz Cathedral play and nowhere near as strong. The Rus already make you play their game with the hunt control meta, the combination of that and making you play the relic game against them too is what actually makes the Abby powerful.

[@absolutelyyousless7605]

The High Tradehouse is also a pretty good pick on maps with scarce food or gold

[@malloxfire8026]

The khan should be able to carry two meats! Unfortunately she can't carry any currently even with professional scouts.

[@Crossairx]

I was like I’m gonna watch my boys aussie English rush and see a new video 10 minutes ago?? Hell yeah now we here boys

[@agabriellejeremy6492]

I'm playing a lot of Rus' and yesterday i played against a Mongol. I had a hard time against his mangudaï until i massed springalds with both ameliorations. He couldn't do anything, i added some Streltsy to protect my siege units and the game was done.

[@RealCecilion]

Vs mongols age 2 just build towers and a good kremlin placement, age 3 your cav archers can defend you pretty well, age 4 3 strelitz oneshot mangudai, if he keeps going mang he’s gonna loose, also could go mangonels in between the springels to get good splash dmg

[@agabriellejeremy6492]

@@RealCecilion thanks for the advices !

[@coachdallas]

Thanks ausie. This helped a lot.

[@bmewshaw]

Does anyone know the most effecient amount of hunting cabins before hitting the gold cap yet?

[@jamesmartinez7040]

Ive had +1500 gold and no cap reached.

[@bmewshaw]

@@jamesmartinez7040 weird. Thought there was a cap. Good to know. Appreciate it!

[@jamesmartinez7040]

@@bmewshaw I'm honestly surprised no one ever talks about it in videos. But the main restriction seems to be that they need to be spaced apart far enough.

[@Kevin.Boyle007]

LOVE your video's. > Liked and subscribed! Hey, question - The Wooden Fortresses - does it matter whether you put Archers in them or Villagers?

[@robbiemiles1430]

Pretty sure I heard you say that about France too, not sure which came first.

[@kahlernygard809]

Do I completely focus on wood or food?

[@ironside_r9924]

i won with wonder and more than 20 traders for french mastery challenge but it didnt count , can someone tell me is that a bug or what?? @Aussie_Drongo

[@berkut3919]

Do you build wooden fortresses?

[@user-rj8tr6sp7e]

to me the best factions are the french, the english and the russ, but the french is hard to use due to the expensive military costs

[@chrism822]

Abbey of the Trinity is normally better than High trade house. Though if your opponent is killing the hunts before you, or there are little hunts on the map. You can use the high trade house to spawn hunts in for you. To get that bounty bonus done. Cannons should outrange springalds, trebs, and mangos.

[@lucadesanctis563]

No, because the first cannons weren't well performing like the one that followed

[@fupopanda]

Hahaha. Aussie Drongo is at it again, like in AOE3. Finding the OP stuff and teaching all how to abuse it. Love it.

[@Xadar24]

feudal knights are op in this game, all the counters require castle age

[@furretthefuzzynoodle3896]

Spears?

[@donutsrgood4491]

Not really, just build enough spears to guard your resources if you see stable if he's Rus or French (They are the only civs to get feudal knights I also learned lancers are pretty much the same thing so there could be more) and you should hit castle age before him due to his heavy spending on gold. If he all ins with an archery range and some light bowmen either tower or what's better would be a stable to build light horseman to counter they only cost food and wood also so your eco should still be better if you can hold off.

[@donutsrgood4491]

I do lots of early game knight aggression with France thats how people hold me off usually and how I'm learning to hold others off.

[@sleepylion9788]

@@donutsrgood4491 Yup, normally Cav raids (even with Knights) work best when opponent is greedy with resource or forgets to build tower.

[@alexn7122]

hello/salut.Anybody else have crash to desktop on rus campaign when you get objective to build kremlin?/I se mai crasheaza cuiva la desktop la misiunea cu build kremlin,e prima misiune din campania cu rus?

[@paringparnell]

OMG! WHERE DID YOU GET PICTURES OF EVERYMAP!!!

[@reza3624]

I love how people already Find every civ op

[@gongal]

Expect a video for a every single civ why they are OP

[@Josh24k.]

Hey bro loving the content can you do a guide/opening build order on the rus

[@masterdclone2172]

Pretty sure he has a vid where themista does his rus buildorder

[@saberpendragon271]

Hey Aussie, have you experienced a game on the island maps where you lack stone on your main island? After finishing my game I downloaded the replay and my opponent has stone on theirs

[@TheJBerg]

How about bombard cannons doing no damage to lumber And stone collection buildings?? As mongols that kinda slowed my building damage a bit... :D

[@fupopanda]

Unfortunately the maps spawn very unfairly. I don't check my replays, but more than half of the games casted by Aussie Drongo that I've watched where he checks for map evenness turn out to be uneven maps. I hope it's one of the things they fix, and hopefully the November tournaments use good maps. Would suck to see $20,000 go to winners that win because of unfair map.

[@TheSirKats]

Could you explain to me what that aura your Warrior Monk has around him, how to get it and what it does?

[@Zaibusa]

if he is carrying a relic he can convert (wololo) nearby enemy units. The circle is what it looks like when it uses this ability. It's sort of a warning indicator to allow your enemy to move away while it's channeling

[@Mcnardd]

I've been trying to figure out who to play going into the game but the Rush just sound like to much fun to pass up. I'm a zerg player from sc2 and I like the extra micro you've gotta do with the early game hunting

[@jiggaman198]

Rus kind of need everything to go right for them to be op. France on the other hand literally just can't get punished and are literally a menace the minute they age up.

[@michaelmiles5110]

I haven't played against other players yet, a bit too afraid for it. But man I will say that knight upgrade for them that allows them to heal outside of combat is pretty crazy. Allowing them to harass and then run away and just heal the entire time they're away. Being able to come right back in again a minute later.

[@JesterNoNamer]

Aussie predicting Rus power 2 days after game release

[@hupiri2868]

I have a news video Idea Chinese fire lancer are the new Oprichnik

[@derek_in_atx]

Thanks for the great content 🙏🏼

[@ethanbarton]

So do they have weaknesses we can exploit?

[@sleepylion9788]

Their biggest weakness is water map, because their navy sucks. In land map, it depends on your civ: - Mongol can contest hunt with them and their mid-late game is as strong as Rus. - China can beat them in late game with Fire Lancers. - They have an opening from t3-t4 where you can exploit if you're both on equal footing eco wise.

[@Vocu]

Boars are raid bosses in this game lol, you need a literal army to take them down.

[@RealCecilion]

I had one healing to full everytime he moved a bit, had to onepunch him

[@jw8392]

Pro tip: Notepad++ > Notepad :P

[@easygoinnn]

I'm sorry if this is a dumb comment, but i don't understand why the monk stops melee attacks lol

[@Leeway4434]

I was wondering the same too. I had to watch it back because I thought I missed it, but he never says why. I'm a noob as well but I'm thinking they convert the units in range of the circle?

[@easygoinnn]

@@Leeway4434 yeah I found out if a monk is holding a relic you can command them to convert enemy units in a circle around them. But it takes a few seconss

[@okkomp]

What do you call an epilictic in the bushes? RUSS - L

[@clashingimages]

Ehh not imo. The chinese first age landmark screws over any early rush if you put it near more aggressive resources for your villagers.

[@codiserville593]

All this seems fun and great; that being said do you think they are in danger of being nerfed soon, then?

[@luongngo1802]

“350 x 7= A LOT” Quick Math!

[@cokkiebitch]

I need japanese and aztecs

[@hrewdarkness3922]

I like the rus, except that they don't get real walls. I really enjoy the stone walls. It makes the base feel complete and defending your economy is so much easier.

[@Ctrekoz]

РУССКИЕ ВПЕРЁД!

[@MaZe741]

Sure, but clicking a Mongol Towncenter into the enemy base is a whole lot easier...

[@Myth0l0gic]

*Laughs in Mongol TC cheese*

[@bennycostello2472]

I'm playing multiplayer just trying to figure out how people rush to feudal age while still having a 50 man 100 gold each army 5 minutes in I dont get it.

[@ggnoob671]

I want to see video where u explain all maps in aoe 3

[@sirjon103]

Anyone else laughed 350*7 equals a lot xD

[@davidquezada50]

I assume since they don't need to get resources and just spam hunting and getting relics

[@RatherCrunchyMuffin]

Рус / "Rus" is pronounce like Roos, similar to juice

[@loweloking88]

I’m not wasting resources on 7 scouts that’s too many

[@armandobelloso4802]

The deer they pick up compensates them and you deny the hunts to the enemy.

[@loweloking88]

@@armandobelloso4802 yeah I realized that. I get 7 scouts every Civ now except English

[@MrQuantumInc]

Having every hunting cabin be a scout factory was a bad idea. Early rushes are an issue in every RTS and six or seven Age 1 scouts definitely have that same effect. Even if you can't finish them off you can weaken them. Either every civilization has an option for early rushes, or none of them do (or maybe some don't but can defend extremely easily).

[@frederickJC]

have you used them for combat XD they suck

[@hansoskar1911]

So basically Rus are Bohemians with insane early game pressure.

[@Seranuelian]

Frank Bombards have 15 range tho

[@sfgox10]

Belarus. We say Bell a rooos. We don't say bela russ. So I thin it's fair to say Rus = rooos not r uh s

[@007sebbi]

Set the pace to .75 to play the video and thank me later

[@RexorInvicta]

Im systematically playing through the campaigns on hard, haven't gotten to the Rus yet but I think the French are pretty weak overall. Opinions?

[@joaquinlobato5885]

French are OP. Good overall, no flaws. Strong economy, versatile and good army composition. TheViper rated them S tier as well.

[@Just_Lucky24]

Most people consider the French the best civ right now

[@RexorInvicta]

@@Just_Lucky24 Oh very interesting, I like that they have market and research buffs but for me atleast in the late game they're not performing that well. The cav just geta nuked by siege/AP ranged and they dont get crazy buffs like farms giving gold and wynguard. What makes them so strong? Early cav rush?

[@needwhippin]

also the wooden fortress is only the age 2 landmark or towers right?

[@jannisop7]

asking me why i m even watching this haha. not even Playing AoE2 or AoE4. just a fan Watching these games. xD Good Video tho

[@purp8057]

Started playing age of empires 4 it’s really good my first one in the series, I came from command and conquer games

[@advancedmonkey7702]

Well this did not aged well. LOL

[@LillyAnarkitty]

Did somebody say… *real power???*

[@garlkurzer]

I get this reference, even though the video is years old

[@LillyAnarkitty]

@@garlkurzer That video will never truly get old

[@ntantas961]

The sus

[@northerncassowary8567]

Because Sweden?

[@huggleskuishy]

Bullshit, HRE beat civ

[@Static-EN-]

Still gonna play mongols but this is pretty interesting

[@Andyyyx13]

Mongols are bug, can't access to lancers in feudal age, without that, they lose a Lot of rush potential That bug was a Bad surprise after the closed beta with that unit :(

[@sleepylion9788]

@@Andyyyx13 is it a bug or did they change it? Tbh with Magudai alone they're pretty strong in tier 2. Mangudai can easily kite Knight, forcing enemy to go Archers. And if they get trade they can go tier 3 super fast and usually end the game right there.

[@Xohslol]

@@sleepylion9788 common theory atm is that it was changed without notation, as having the flag ship mongol army in age 2 was overwhelming. age 2 knights/lancers in general likely should be taken away.

[@sleepylion9788]

@@Xohslol I dont think taking them away is a good thing either. The problem is Rus/France has too much eco power in tier 2 to spam them. The best solution is to make them more expensive (for tier 2) or nerf eco power of Rus/France during early game.

[@Just_Lucky24]

@@Andyyyx13 put your stables on the Ovoo and just train double-production horsemen if you need feudal cav

[@goaticorn8702]

The Rus seem very niche and they're incredibly picky on when they peak and can win the game. Not super OP tbh

[@ThomasWeppler9]

The rus and the Frence should have been in the beta. Then the game would have come out with much better balance.

[@worldpeace2688]

Told ya

[@luka5555-c2m]

u wot mate?

[@spacemanspud]

It’s pronounced Ruuus

[@rajiikha]

it is funny that the best rus unit in aoe4 is aslo their worst in aoe3

[@anm9600]

Seriously. You have to make a video about the zoom level and the UI. I have no overview. Need to zoom out!! And the UI is enormous!! They have to fix this. It’s killing the pleasure of the game😳

[@vasiliyvasiliev2177]

It is pronounced [rus'], with second consonant soft. Your second attempt is closer.

[@gallakailancer3692]

Mongols #1

[@LaurenceWilliamson]

Good

[@sdo1840]

By far the worst civilization in the Sea. That's why they are not OP they have one generic ship that is bodied by all other attack ships

[@joshuakuehn]

How many tourneys have sea tho? First engagement sets the stage with such finality that they aren't enjoyed.

[@Ubeer85]

Next talk about how OP the HRE is

[@davidpereira5969]

3 relics= 900 gold per minute, sounds balanced with those age 1 monks

[@taserrr]

They're one of the worst factions what are you on about?

[@JohnFromAccounting]

@@taserrr They haven't been figured out yet. Aachen Chapel is an incredible econ landmark and Regnitz Cathedral is one of the best in the game. Their weakness is early game pressure and cavalry factions like Rus and French. HRE in the hands of a good player can easily compete with most factions.

[@Gengchen82]

@@taserrr They're not one of the worst, they are decent.

[@fads90]

It's pronounced 'Roose' not 'Russ'

[@c.augustedupin8860]

I like rus because I am russian and rus civilization is unstoppable and we usually do well against HRE and the French(aoe4), Turks(aoe3)

[@annguyenlehoang7779]

Rus holly musket rekt every unit in aoe 4 even the big elephant 🤣

[@Jaysus04]

In regards to the tiers list I would say that Mongols are at least A. They have so many options for map control and are very strong in late game as well, but they are not easy to master. Not at all. The HRE on the other hand I would put to C or even D. Yes D, because they only got a good early game thanks to eco Prelates, but other than that they are lacking in every regard. No synergies, no cool unique techs, no good cav (although they had one of the strongest heavy cav in history, lack of reference to Teutonic Order can also be listed here. What a disgrace), no special archers, Religion (one of their core strengths. Supposedly) even is inferior to Rus, Prelates don't help the army at all aside from healing, but you get that with every civ (best healers are on Mongol and Dehli side). There is actually nothing for them aside infantry. But you better don't build the Landsknecht. Gold costs of a knight, but less impact than a spearmen because he dies upon creation. Historically he was the core and elite of the army and he excelled vs infantry and cavalry. He used pikes, halberds, sometimes flambergs and later on also arquebuses. But in the game he is an auxiliary wimp). This civ is in a ridiculously pathetic state. And on top of that very buggy as well. Yeah, it's D tier. And I know that you can win games with them under 20 minutes. But that's all they got. They are still D tier.

[@aintfalco7968]

I wouldn't mind a small nerf to Rus scout production or something, in exchange for better ships. That's the only way I can imagine nerfing the Rus fairly. The French and even English are just way stronger for most of the player base AND objectively better on water. In the same way, I'd like to see the HRE reworked a little bit and overall nerfed on the water. Historically, it should def not be the strongest civ on water.

[@borgri5871]

disagree, as an russian main i fucked up many matches on water maps to the point i carried many of them, even on unranked, as their singular ship is ridiculously abusive when you know how he and his upgrades work, as for russians you only need 2-3 scouts, one for scouting, the other 2 for deer killing, followed by having 2 knights kill all the boars on the map, unless your up against an aggressively-minded civ like french and mongols where its more important to rush them asap while your building the golden gate before they attack you, you have knights harass the vills nonstop while spears (if french) or archers (if mongols) deal with the knights and mangudais (remember to focus your attention on the khan with all units when he appears, then have units refocus on their specific jobs after he dies)

[@nugrahabahri6659]

Abbasyd Caliphate not Dintasy :(

[@SeanSullyy]

AOE4 seems soooo slow, and I feel completely lost watching gameplay. It’s like everyone already knew the ins and outs right when the game dropped. I felt\feel totally left behind. For example, when looking at the mini map, I have no idea what symbols I’m even looking at. Have I missed Drongos ultimate beginner AOE4 guide?? That’s what’s deterring me from buying the game. Have any 3 players who were skeptical had their opinions changed? Should I dabble with 4?

[@wolfgangbr1576]

Get your point, all these streamers getting access early and playing high level... Still wondering whether I should buy it myself. The official videos of aoe4 have great introductions to each civ, I can highly recommend that for a start. (:

[@reza3624]

Dude its Just a game Just learn as u play

[@wolfgangbr1576]

@@reza3624 yeeeahh.. No. Glad if you got money flying around but I am not willing to pay 60 € unless I am really convinced. And most videos on it make it hard to really get everything.

[@reza3624]

@@wolfgangbr1576 then Just wait untill its on sale i guess

[@upthecreek9784]

@@reza3624 This is what I'm doing. There will probably be 20 percent off sale in few weeks least in usa. When you factor inflation in I think aoe4 is actually cheaper than aoe 2,3 were at release.

[@Gengchen82]

Dont even bother learning Rus, they're gonna get nerfed.

[@sleepylion9788]

I don't they're gonna get nerfed too heavily, they don't do well on map with fewer hunting/timber spot and their mid game has gap you can exploit. Maybe Hunting Cabin will go up 50 wood or their gold generation gets nerf. Streltsy may get their cost increased as well.

[@1488EVERGETES]

I'm playing Rus since launch 🥲

[@stringdoll50]

they are not stronger than French lmfao French literally the most OP one, rus is solid but not op

[@c.augustedupin8860]

how do you know??? rus is by far the most op.civ and a Russian rus will blitz past the French

[@stringdoll50]

@@c.augustedupin8860 you haven't seen pro players literally abusing french knight, the raiding from them is literally hard to stop you just think late game rus is good, but to make it to late game is a Problem on its own and every pro refuse to play vs French , and mostly on water map cuz they just straight lose That is top 20 players, not your random guy

[@stringdoll50]

@@c.augustedupin8860 While the deer part is good, but most of the time for civ, food is not a problem most of civ have a way to boom, and they generally put 2nd TC next to wood/berry or gold, and make farm, that is how most of game pan out while focusing on stealng deer is good, but it doesnt hurt players as much as you think

[@c.augustedupin8860]

@@stringdoll50 funny I have seen the reviews and most pro players accept that russian are the best rush civ. and I have no idea where and which platform the pro players refused to play against the French

[@c.augustedupin8860]

@@stringdoll50 that's where my mate you're going wrong. creating extra TC is suicidal against the rus as rus as excellent map dominance tactics and yeah...food is easy to gather but russian get that way too quickly plus excellent counters against the cavs + counter archers make them very difficult to beat

[@andypro6158]

NERF.

[@hynekvykoukal526]

Drongo, AOE 3 DE FTW! We want you back you "nasty Sweden" :D

[@justinhess2747]

Historically, there were 2 Rus. Moscavy and Kievan. Russian and Ukrainian. I'm just spreading knowledge, the more you know..

[@r.d.6290]

Kiev stopped being important after being sacked by Mongols and nearly being destroyed. "Kievan Rus" was an academic construct rather than an empire with Kiev as some influential capital. Speaking of cities of Rus', particularly the Novgorod is the city that persisted through much everything, older than Moscow. Not everything revolves around Moscow and Kiev.

[@shmamlet7751]

You are spreading misinformation. There was Rus. There were also a lot of points of power all throughout the territory of this basically conglomeration of slav cities.

[@DrScarface74]

Novgorod Rus enters the chat

[@Artem-yk7ig]

I dislike their new wololo system. Don't even understand why they did it.

[@purgedsoy9518]

it makes more sense actually, imagine a guy preaching right inside a battle field, would only one guy convert? I think everyone hearing that preach would convert, if they listen that enough. AND monk has to have a relic on him because you wouldnt blieve his words unless he has a holy proof. So dudes will be like hey look at this dude he has that divine thing on him and his words make sense we would be punished if we dont fight beside him. Then they convert.

[@Makofueled]

@@purgedsoy9518 I love the risk of taking the relic to battle for the big wolololo

[@Artem-yk7ig]

​@@purgedsoy9518 It actually makes some problems with the balance and the battles. The original priests were a viable option to counter expensive units only armies, while cheap spam was to massive to be wololoed. The new priests can counter every army, they are something standing above rock-paper-scissors. Another thing is, the game now has an opportunity to defeat every army with very low resources. Yes, it requires your opponent to make a mistake in the control, but I don't like it. Losing entire army in a blink of an eye isn't new to AOE: you may catch an artillery volley or run under mass ranged troops. However, these options require a lot of resources from the opponent. Compare it to a single monk.

[@r.d.6290]

@@Artem-yk7ig the wololo now can only counter units of a distracted and slow player. Never seen anyone making wololo brutal in matches, monks get targeted right away and the wololo is effectively over.