Age of Sigmar 4.0 Full Rules Review - Warhammer Weekly 06262024

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Vince Venturella

Vince Venturella

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Join us for another week of news, rumors and all things warhammering! This week, we are getting into a full review of the AoS 4.0 rules - what are the tricks and things that will trip you up with the new edition? What changed? Is this any good? All of this and less will be answered within!
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@reformedbugman703
@reformedbugman703 Ай бұрын
Vince on the 40,000 foot metaphor: "Am I so out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong"
@borisdevilboon8064
@borisdevilboon8064 Ай бұрын
You did it Horus Lupercal, you are the warhammer 40,000 foot view
@Ninjon
@Ninjon Ай бұрын
Congrats in advance on your second best painted Skaven army in the world, Vince.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 29 күн бұрын
I've seen what you've painted so far, I'm not worried.
@Ninjon
@Ninjon 29 күн бұрын
@@VinceVenturella if the rat from HC455 is any indication, you better start getting worried.
@quantumflea
@quantumflea Ай бұрын
Ah finally some discussion of how the new edition actually plays. So much other coverage of these rules is very superficial. Thanks Vince and Brendan!
@grungivaldigurnisson5115
@grungivaldigurnisson5115 Ай бұрын
I'd pay for Warhammer+ if it included digital access to all the army books
@bastiandeininger6654
@bastiandeininger6654 Ай бұрын
Dream on, dreeeeaaaaam on. But for real: that is what they should do, at least for the rules part and publish the books as collector items with Röhre lore etc
@jakea3950
@jakea3950 Ай бұрын
​@bastiandeininger6654 Its not really a dream its just gw wants it all. A greedy ass company we all know and ots why we all bootleg stuff all the time and their answer is usually just complaining instead of innovating to accomodate.
@agollumcalledgandalf
@agollumcalledgandalf Ай бұрын
Hell yes I'd happily pay monthly to access all the core and army rules, up to date and in a single place. Right now, wahapedia is a far superior service than any resource on offer by GW, even if you disregard the fact that waha is completely free of charge
@briochepanda
@briochepanda Ай бұрын
For anyone reeling at Vince's plan to display paint 40 clan rats (as well as the rest of the skaven) and wondering how he could find the motivation to suffer through that? I need to mind you that Vince has previously stated that he is "addicted to painting" and, as such, is immune to motivational fatigue when it comes to painting skaven in particular. Vince is THRIVING right now.
@PrinceMcGiggle
@PrinceMcGiggle Ай бұрын
"There are no universal abilities" *turns page* UNIVERSAL TERRAIN ABILITIES 🤣. Show was great as always guys, keep it up.
@Kazerole
@Kazerole Ай бұрын
Also : move, banish, charge etc… and commands 😁. But we all new what he meant ❤
@PrinceMcGiggle
@PrinceMcGiggle Ай бұрын
@@Kazerole haha yes absolutely, I just thought the timing was amusing
@Kazerole
@Kazerole Ай бұрын
@@PrinceMcGiggle Warhammer Weekly is just special that way 😄
@BrettsMinis
@BrettsMinis Ай бұрын
Vince putting six hours per rat is dedication to the great horned rat for sure. When he’s done, he’ll have the best army of 5th edition! Haha
@toogreytogame
@toogreytogame Ай бұрын
I think it's business smart that they've included the GHB and Spearhead starter kit in the Skaventide box: it makes it a much higher value proposition but also means more people will buy a box for themselves rather than just take half the models. I'm splitting with a SC player but as we both want the GHB and Spearhead bits, we're getting 2 boxes and exchanging the relevant models. You never know when you need 80 clanrats...
@Kazerole
@Kazerole Ай бұрын
Or 2 of those weird SCE heroes 😅
@toogreytogame
@toogreytogame Ай бұрын
@@Kazerole that's the advantage of taking the Skaven half, as it's only really the clawlord you wouldn't have a case for taking more than one!
@DocPhantoms
@DocPhantoms Ай бұрын
Not to be that guy, but Para Bellum's Conquest app and rules access has really soured my feeling about AoS. The app is such a joy to use for exploring different factions and for list building. It dynamically updates unit profiles based off of upgrades you give. It supports match play, narrative play, and tournaments. And it is all free.
@cyriltournier
@cyriltournier Ай бұрын
Same for Warmachine.
@deifiedtitan
@deifiedtitan Ай бұрын
Soured? As in the really good rules app made you feel worse about the game?
@cyriltournier
@cyriltournier Ай бұрын
@@deifiedtitan it means seeing other, smaller games doing it better is annoying
@RealJahzir
@RealJahzir Ай бұрын
Yeah this has been my thought since they debuted their updated 40k app. Infinity, Malifaux, Conquest and many more offer better apps for Free 🤦‍♂️
@DarkZergkill
@DarkZergkill Ай бұрын
Any other app out there, from Warmachine, over Infinity and Malifaux to also Conquest and other games is an honest to god embarrassment to what GW thinks is acceptable to not just release, but also charge money for. It is annoying how GWs ineptitude to release a good app, keeps feeding the attitude of people that apps are bad for miniature gaming. :/
@thesoothsayer9223
@thesoothsayer9223 Ай бұрын
Jon Favreau plays Warhammer and is guest on Warhammer Weeky? Thanks yall for the excellent overview
@Swooper86
@Swooper86 21 күн бұрын
1:27:20 "You can pile in, but you can never leave."
@red-undead-plays6525
@red-undead-plays6525 Ай бұрын
Help me understand why priests are better than wizards? Yes you can unleash prayer and stock up points, but you can also unleash spell and just have two spells? How is taking a turn off to power up strictly better than casting two spells? Not to mention the miscast chance is 1/36 versus 1/6 to fail a prayer and lose ritual points?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Sure, happy to help. So it's about the -1. The chance you actually cast the spell with the -1 becomes really low, it's a big change in the success rate, especially when a lot of spells are on 6-7 base, so moving to 7-8 when there are few bonuses to cast anywhere means you are likely throwing points away (its not always bad, I am speaking to the average case). However, with the praryers, not only does it not matter if you fail (as you just bank the points), but you are also building up to their second tier effects, which are often VERY powerful. So by spending those points off turn with a wizard, you get a chance to maybe get a spell, but you stand something like a 40-60% chance of getting nothing. When you chant off turn, you have a 84% chance of getting something, likely pushing you toward your power up prayer and big effect.
@red-undead-plays6525
@red-undead-plays6525 Ай бұрын
@@VinceVenturella very well put, thank you for the response. That makes a lot more sense now
@Vortid
@Vortid Ай бұрын
For a future list of technical corner cases, combat both requiring 3" range and visibility, and both of those factors being model to unit, means you can have a situation where models from one unit can fight but some or no models from the other unit can not. Like if all modes are in range but behind a tall wall, one model has a very tall spear that every model in the other unit can see, now that spear guy can fight and all models in the other unit can fight. Could even be that the model with spear is further away than 3", but visibile, while other models in it's unit are within 3" but not visibile, now one side has both visibility and range and and can fight 'through the wall', but the other side has no models that can fight.
@Andreas-wb5vi
@Andreas-wb5vi Ай бұрын
Or you can play it sensibly, and just make it realistic. I know that wargames like these are supposed to be played “rules as written”, but that usually ends up in situations where a sanity check needs to be applied. Good observation though! +1 to you sir.
@Vortid
@Vortid Ай бұрын
@@Andreas-wb5vi Yeah...for me it means certain terrain isn't good for the game, if using it leads to very weird situations. So a wall in this game should probably be more than 3" thick (effectively) so units don't fight through it.
@DOCKKING
@DOCKKING Ай бұрын
Covering fire has the SHOOT keyword so I'm pretty sure you cant redeploy and covering fire unless you have run and shoot
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
You are correct, sorry about that
@brentnelson8137
@brentnelson8137 Ай бұрын
Now I’m double confused. What about the SHOOT keyword stops you from using Redeploy and Covering Fire?
@itsjustj6205
@itsjustj6205 Ай бұрын
I hit the like button and was able to finish painting my 4th spearhead 😊
@habardeen
@habardeen Ай бұрын
Best rules breakdown and discussion out there. Brendan as regular cohost to expand the great (but busy) plethora of WHW cohosts, please 👌🏾
@melchoriuz8116
@melchoriuz8116 Ай бұрын
The best explanation of the rules so far. Very well executed Vince. Thanks for it.
@stenmadsen7406
@stenmadsen7406 Ай бұрын
Nothing better to go with my morning coffee. Good job guys!
@envaya9838
@envaya9838 Ай бұрын
that must be one massive cup of coffee to last you close to 3 hours
@evil_nessie
@evil_nessie Ай бұрын
​@@envaya9838 Came to say this. Who has 3h for a morning coffee?! 😅😮
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
We agree!
@stenmadsen7406
@stenmadsen7406 Ай бұрын
@@evil_nessie Working from home this morning with loads of coffee and this running.
@jakea3950
@jakea3950 Ай бұрын
Sameo ☕️
@voxkine9385
@voxkine9385 19 күн бұрын
“40k foot view” definition: Like the 10k foot view, but leaving enough extra room to declare exterminatus…
@theastrasolus7767
@theastrasolus7767 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the insights and discussion! I was waiting for your thoughts on the core rules before looking at all the leaks and content. Thanks!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@rhag1394
@rhag1394 27 күн бұрын
Love listening to these while painting!
@yves-sketchpleb
@yves-sketchpleb Ай бұрын
Great show to listen to as I paint up my FEC for 4.0. Also, isn’t Vince just going to use the other half to make a Ratcast Eternals?
@borisdevilboon8064
@borisdevilboon8064 Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot Vince, now instead of Noble Deeds all my ghouls will gain Schmoogie Boogie points
@dinmacxan
@dinmacxan Ай бұрын
I've said it already, but I'll repeat here: how long before the Underdog mechanic becomes "whoever has >5 VPs fewer than the other player" or something? August? September?
@hobbithubby5076
@hobbithubby5076 Ай бұрын
49:00 The crew over at Season of War demonstrated the power of taking an early double and guaranteeing underdog for the rest of the game essentially. It’s quite powerful indeed and I’m guessing will see plenty of use in early 4e.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Absolutely
@azdimy
@azdimy Ай бұрын
I would love to read the rules in details while we wait for the warscroll but they are not yet available unfortunately so all I can do is learn from videos like yours and other content creators who have early access!
@ghostmutton
@ghostmutton Ай бұрын
Great clarifications on some sticky points. Can't wait until the Indexes drop.
@mandollies
@mandollies 17 күн бұрын
Love the fact that Vince was arguing against Tom in 04242024 that Underdog was fine and that no one would try to game it. Insights summary sheet where it says Underdog is often too easy and too good should have had a "Tom was Right" in brackets after it :)
@toogreytogame
@toogreytogame Ай бұрын
I'm completely with you Vince: edge highlight clanrats or go home
@alexandruraullobontiu4052
@alexandruraullobontiu4052 Күн бұрын
I'm wondering if the manifestations count as units for the Guarded Hero rule if they are in combat range of a hero. Anyone that can shed some light onto this? I'm finding hard to fully understand when an endless spell is not considered a unit
@AVS_uk
@AVS_uk 29 күн бұрын
After I liked this video the neighbourhood badger stopped snarling at me
@goingmadbyyou
@goingmadbyyou Ай бұрын
Not sure if this has been mentioned anywhere but at the end of movement phase if i deepstrike with a unit does my opponent get to redeploy after my deepstrike? Since im active player and my abilities need to be finished before my opponent. Would love to have an answer to this. Great content like always!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Yes, you use all of your abilities, then they use theirs. So they are using redeploy after you use all of our things. There is no "End of the movement phase" anymore. It's just an ability in your movement phase.
@rickroberts7312
@rickroberts7312 28 күн бұрын
I tried to find the 1.1.2 thing for underdog bonus but the book I is underspending not outnumbered
@stevecatpatrick8056
@stevecatpatrick8056 Ай бұрын
Awesome video guys Love providing real commentary on what the game will be like. Vince your channel continues to be my favorite Warhammer channel across both games.. Couple of questions though would love to get your thoughts on, do you see the reduction in shooting damage (and magic damage) to be the nail in the coffin for pure shooting/magic damage armies? As a DOT eternal conflag player I'm in shambles here, Lost my allies which were all my front line, Lost my MVB, Lost hero Spam not hurting me tons, and shooting is nerfed. Really unsure how many points I'll be able to put on the table now when I used to have 2K and if those will be able to do anything. Secondly, with the changes to a more rock paper scissors style, do you see it as being an even larger disadvantage than in third to be a very slow army? I'm just thinking of my nurgle army which was very slow and prodding even for nurgle, focused on clogging the board up with plaguebearers which I spread out to body block, buffed up, and then just nuked with lots of magic / disease damage. Can't spread my plaguebearers out anymore, disease does little damage vs before, and I'm slow so my enemy is going to have the ability to set up who charges who. Anyways I'm still really looking forward to this edition I'm just trying to think about these two forces and how they will adapt. Likewise sylvaneth and the tiny area that your terrain covers that can be killed. My STD I'm not concerned about it all lol.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
I can't really talk about individual armies, I will simply say no I don't think that will be the case generally. As to the slow army question, no I don't see it as really having changed, maybe slightly improved as most armies are slightly slower.
@ToffeeTroll
@ToffeeTroll Ай бұрын
I played Skaven when I started my hobby jurny in the 90s. And now when I came back I went to 40K but it looks like i need to dust off my old screaming Bell and Doom Weel 🐀
@jonathondaniels2127
@jonathondaniels2127 14 күн бұрын
Are there any rules or guidance for open or narrative play in the new rules or is it all matched play?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 14 күн бұрын
There is Path to Glory in the new rules and will be supported in the books.
@JackCawood
@JackCawood Ай бұрын
One large change from 3rd to 4th that I think people are overlooking. Plus 1 to charge is pretty hard to find where it used to be everybody with a musical instrument giving +1 to charge.
@StrengthHammer
@StrengthHammer Ай бұрын
Great episode and walkthrough with breakdown Gents!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Thank you sir! Hope you're doing well.
@kingcoltrain357
@kingcoltrain357 Ай бұрын
Hi Vince just wondering if you can spend ritual points earned on one prayer, in the next turn on a different prayer? Thank you
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Yes you can!
@CarbonMage
@CarbonMage Ай бұрын
Wow, Priest (2) is wild
@grungivaldigurnisson5115
@grungivaldigurnisson5115 Ай бұрын
Skaven #4...out of 400
@jarlaxlebanere206
@jarlaxlebanere206 Ай бұрын
Thks for sharing your insights Vince. Disappointed that taking the double turn ends up giving one the underdog advantage... which results in taking the double turn being quite viable ... Hmmm wonder for tournament plays, will the loss of VPs matter given tie breakers? A few will be going 4-1 record .. etc
@griffgoesgaming5974
@griffgoesgaming5974 29 күн бұрын
So in my opponents turn I use heroic magic action to cast Jaws 9" away and at the end of their move i can use redeploy as it can use movement actions or counter charge ? that would give me some ability to mess with no enemy near by tactics , though id expect the spell to be charged.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 28 күн бұрын
No, for a few reasons. 1) Manifestations can't use commands so no redeploy or countercharge. 2) remember, they have to be set-up 9" away
@griffgoesgaming5974
@griffgoesgaming5974 28 күн бұрын
@@VinceVenturella thanks for the clarification , realised they don't count as units for command abilities. Can't wait to start playing and getting me halflings done. Love the channel great content , really inspiring ; my 10 yr old is wanting to make display boards galore .
@mirbeau111
@mirbeau111 Ай бұрын
Vince passives can stack? We had this debate on all out defense with say finest hour. 5.3 clears this up - passives with the ‘same name’ can’t stack. Let me know if we’ve missed something if poss thanks for a great show as per
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Yes, to a point. Same name can't stack, and you can never have more than one Ward save for example, but you could have a passive 5+ ward AND a passive +1 to wound or something. That works.
@nershcast
@nershcast Ай бұрын
Can you use At the Double on a Redeploy because it's a RUN ability?
@rexkaze774
@rexkaze774 Ай бұрын
Yeah with khorns Murderlust 9" save move in Combat for 1 bloodpoint and 2 commandpoints? I Ask for a Friend
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
The answer is Yes, but it doesn't actually do anything. Redeploy let's you move d6 inches. At the Double lets you add 6" to your move characteristic instead of making a Run Roll. Hence, At the Double does not affect Redeploy, as Redeploy doesn't utilize your Move Characteristic.
@starslayer2438
@starslayer2438 Ай бұрын
Thank you for putting this together. Some of these will surely trip me up. But being forewarned should help. I think locking warscrolls behind Warhammer+ would not be the worst way to do it. The worst way would be locking warscrolls behind each indidvidual battletome. That said, I really hope all warscrolls stay free on the app forever.
@ungface
@ungface Ай бұрын
I feel like the Underdog mechanice can be fixed with "if you ever chose a double turn you forfeit the underdog bonus for the rest of the game." but honestly just remove it entirely.
@nicksmith.arch2
@nicksmith.arch2 Ай бұрын
It's looking like 4th edition works in a way that is much more in line with how my brain works! Even the whole who is doing the action thing seems intuitive to me. Appreciate that not everyone's brain works the same way - I basically sat 3rd ed out as I found it too much. This feels, on first impression, more natural to me
@markpandelidis2079
@markpandelidis2079 Ай бұрын
Are we sure this idea of "you can choose to deploy your units in a regiment individually or as the regiment" is true? I don't see that written in the rules. I just see that it says a unit uses a deploy ability. If you have a regiment, the units in that regiment all have to deploy in sequence without alternating with your opponent. I don't see it specifically written that you can choose to deploy units in a regiment as single deployments. I just think it's explaining how the deploy ability works as a core mechanic, as it would work for auxiliary units or a single unit by itself in its own regiment. Unless I'm missing something, I think this is a mistake.
@afairy
@afairy Ай бұрын
You couldn't deploy the whole regiment if a single part of it has already been deployed.
@markpandelidis2079
@markpandelidis2079 Ай бұрын
@@afairy what you said means nothing. That's not what I said.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Yes, when you deploy, you can use either Deploy ability. The regular Deploy unit does not prohibit the unit from being in a regiment (just the other way around). So yep, you can pick a unit from a regiment and use the basic deploy, but then you are locked into dropping that regiment one unit at a time.
@markpandelidis2079
@markpandelidis2079 Ай бұрын
@@VinceVenturella but my question is where does it say that. It doesn't explicitly say that's how it's done. The deploy regiment ability does not actually give any deployment instructions. It doesn't say "set up this unit wholly in your territory, outside of 9" etc etc" It's a source link back to how the basic deploy ability works. So unless you're saying this officially from GW they've already clarified with you personally that this is the case, I don't see it written that you have the choice.
@dinmacxan
@dinmacxan Ай бұрын
Hang on, so you pay 2 CP for Countercharge and then pay 1 more CP to reroll that charge? Or do the rules stop the same unit from receiving 2 CAs in the same phase?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Yeah, you can't reroll, too many commands
@mastercats
@mastercats Ай бұрын
When you manestfest a predatory endless spell, can it move in the same turn?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
It cannot, no model that is set-up can move in the same turn.
@Dwilson1282
@Dwilson1282 Ай бұрын
I haven’t been as hyped for anything warhammer since GW released Betrayal at Calth and the Horus Heresy Red Books. Let’s go.
@cyriltournier
@cyriltournier Ай бұрын
Very good video. Thanks!
@PrussianWarfare
@PrussianWarfare Ай бұрын
2:13:49 Vince I respectfully disagree, there's nothing in the rules that explicitly says Magical Intervention (MI) and Unbinding usage should be treated dissimilar to other abilities, regardless of the former being a command nor the latter being a reaction. Both MI and Unbinding sport failure conditions - MI says you can use a spell or prayer ability as appropriate. If you exceed the number of Unbinds you have available per your unit's power level, while you are able to keep doing it because it explicitly states it violates The Rules of One, it fails in that it has no effect. Just like you can fail to use a spell, prayer or banish ability if the unit in question exceeds the number determines by their power level per phase. If I am using MI, then I am using a spell or prayer ability, and spell or prayer abilities have fail conditions based around power level. If MI has fail conditions for using abilities that have fail conditions based on power level, then the fail conditions of those abilities are fail conditions for MI. Assuming the player using MI is not violating 1.2 "Using Commands" of the COMMAND Module, there is nothing that additionally states the usage of MI command is a different manner than usage of one or more abilities. If the usage of Unbind as a reaction, which is still an ability, is irrespective on the usage of one or more abilities used per phase, then its usage exclusion is only defined for violating The Rules of One, not additionally for 1.1 & 4.0 of the MAGIC Module. Would love to happily be proven wrong, it's just I don't understand the take that just because a set contains different elements, but those elements aren't introduced in the same paragraph, so that means those staggeredly introduced elements don't follow the rules of other elements in their set, unless explicitly defined that they do.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. I was saying they are separate pools. You still can't attempt to unbind a single spell more than once. What am I missing here?
@PrussianWarfare
@PrussianWarfare Ай бұрын
​@@VinceVenturellaI don't understand what you mean by separate pools. If you wouldn't mind explaining that to me, I can better clarify on my end
@Danieloldfield168
@Danieloldfield168 Ай бұрын
I'm really looking forward to this addition, I left 18 months ago because the battle tatics killed it for me being overly conditional. How do you bridge the gap of skill level, I found playing 3rd I auto lost post deployment, stormcast deepstricking fulminators into infranty with the extra damage from galletian rules, no way of screening without costing the opportunity to score VPs. It felt the game came down to who won the priority roll. To the first question of bridging the gap, I guess practice is key, although when you lose so badly, you dont really learn anything, such a negative gaming experience.
@GreatWhiteShack
@GreatWhiteShack Ай бұрын
Would much rather double turns reduce your CP by 2 and give the other person 2 extra CP. Would give the player getting doubled agency to fight back using whatever CAs are most relevant to them, and the player taking the double will be extremely limited in what CAs they can use
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Ай бұрын
Cover the underdog mechanic potentially being busted a bit more I apparently overlooked this in the articles and had far too hastily (after seeing you can't do a BT if you double) judged double turns as neutered Expand on how they interact with the underdog mechanic more --- it seems like you take a temporary risk to not score well for a turn for an overall higher payout in the end (in addition to smashing your opponent's army to dust)
@corrackisdead
@corrackisdead Ай бұрын
Honestly the way 40K does it is stupid, I should be able to read my opponents units stats without having to buy things I will never play
@markpandelidis2079
@markpandelidis2079 Ай бұрын
So here's my question. Is a weapon ability part of the attack sequence? Does adding a weapon ability (specifically bash'em ladz) to weapons count as effecting the attack sequence?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Bash Em Ladz effects the attack sequence (giving Crit 2 hits), so it can't work on companions.
@markpandelidis2079
@markpandelidis2079 Ай бұрын
@@VinceVenturella Lame 😣
@dornjr
@dornjr Ай бұрын
I'm worried about the state of this channel ... between 4.0 & new Skaven I'm worried we won't get the most critical Warhammer News ... Book VI storytime and finally find out what the spear does*. *For 3 more weeks. 😉💖
@gregoryjordan1740
@gregoryjordan1740 Ай бұрын
Is there a way to see your completed rats Vince?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
I'll share them out on my socials.
@Xabierum
@Xabierum Ай бұрын
Can someone explain that thing with auxiliary units? I didn't get it
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
I am saying you will never use them, there is no reason.
@CarbonMage
@CarbonMage Ай бұрын
More specifically, giving your opponent an extra cp every round (and also what auxiliaries do to your number of drops) is way too big a cost to ever consider bringing any
@drewbash2203
@drewbash2203 Ай бұрын
Are praying points shared in a pool between all the priest's?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
No, it's that priest carrying the points.
@sps62487
@sps62487 26 күн бұрын
Ouuu use Power Through if you think you will go first in the next battle round SO you can move and charge... I LIke it
@rickroberts7312
@rickroberts7312 Ай бұрын
Would you pay for warhammer+ if it included all the army books in the app?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Sure, that would be worth it
@RadioFreeHammerhal
@RadioFreeHammerhal Ай бұрын
One thing that drives me nuts about how GW formats their rules and books in general - the ordering makes no sense to me. That bit about who is using an ability should really be waaaay up front in the rules. That's really a core concept essential to everything. You kinda need it to frame all of the rules
@christophertaylor3770
@christophertaylor3770 Ай бұрын
can't wait for chaos dwarves to release that use smogey bogey token and spells truly will be a shift in the lore 😂
@bryanpierce5000
@bryanpierce5000 Ай бұрын
Do we know yet what the Ironjawz Spearhead will be?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Not yet.
@bryanpierce5000
@bryanpierce5000 Ай бұрын
@@VinceVenturella thank you! But we do know there is one?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
@@bryanpierce5000 THere is not one now, I expect it will release when the book comes out.
@bryanpierce5000
@bryanpierce5000 Ай бұрын
@@VinceVenturella thanks for your insights!
@CarbonMage
@CarbonMage Ай бұрын
They really didn't just give WAAAGH! once per battle (army)? I get how its technically unnecessary, but it would've made it way easier to parse for new or casual players
@danbrugman4838
@danbrugman4838 Ай бұрын
I am hyped for the edition overall, but I am also deeply worried about the double turn... I fear that it's way WAY to strong now, not just due to the underdog mechanic, but also with the increase in combat range and weakening of shooting going twice will be even more devastating, especially for melee heavy armies that are reasonably fast. The double turn was never my favorite mechanic, but I never outright hated it either. I'm afraid I may now outright hate the mechanic.
@TerrierHalo
@TerrierHalo Ай бұрын
I’m just here to hit like and eat breakfast.
@Threnodist1
@Threnodist1 Ай бұрын
1:19:36 move “-“ manifestations can’t be shot then?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
They can be shot, because they can be targeted by enemy abilities at any time.
@Fadeing
@Fadeing Ай бұрын
It seems like through trying to "elucidate" the behavior legalistically they have managed to "obfuscate" the "commander's intent" of behaviors they want to happen. Very "method of the how." Six levels down "however! Level Seven!"
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Now that is some wonderful corporate speech.
@DCUATL
@DCUATL Ай бұрын
Is Warhammer+ still illegal in Canada? That's a lot of WH creators and players that can't use the app.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
I believe that is still an issue.
@nickthompson6642
@nickthompson6642 Ай бұрын
Give us a 5 command point ability.
@TheGeppywizard
@TheGeppywizard Ай бұрын
Please say "Schmoogie Boogie" one more time. ;)
@lukevassh7740
@lukevassh7740 Ай бұрын
GITMOB!!!! 🤘🐺🤘
@leesweeney8879
@leesweeney8879 Ай бұрын
Spearhead will teach melee armies are king, too easy to charge across the entire board.
@jakestefano4118
@jakestefano4118 Ай бұрын
4.0 LFGO!
@jakea3950
@jakea3950 Ай бұрын
The app thing is the worst. I have 2-4 lists and cant imagine how theory crafters feel. Such a low act to knickle and dime a sub. Ill be hard passing. For a work around find a better app to read saved stuff in. Then each time you create a list just use the save to clipboard feature and store. Done👍
@rowandecker8473
@rowandecker8473 Ай бұрын
Need to see a time lapse of Vince working on new Skaven as last week's giant cheese wheel gets smaller and smaller
@DavidLees3D
@DavidLees3D Ай бұрын
This looks like this edition is just going to be "Showing PowerPoints to people who are wrong: The Game" and I am absolutely out. How often can I do this and how much damage does my stuff do are not questions that a sober person should be able to get wrong.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
We're highlighting the challenge spots, but I will say, overall, this actually hasn't been much of a challenge, the games have been quite smooth.
@martinmountford1981
@martinmountford1981 Ай бұрын
Vince I think you're wrong on auxiliaries, broken units will be found before the broken abilities are scaled down/turned to once per army per turn. Lists will want to play them and 1cp isn't a big deal, which you confirmed as you don't think people will be aiming to get 50pts under 2k to get an extra cp on turn 1.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
I don't think I am wrong and I have good reason to think I am right. But I guess time will tell.
@hungrymatador213
@hungrymatador213 28 күн бұрын
Sigmar bless you Vince, I saw you in the background of that GW propaganda video "the community speaks" (yeah the community who is in the bag) but unlike all those shills that were coopt'd by GW you were there and didn't front up to blow sunshine up GW's dress. Thank ye gods we have a unbiased reviewer like you Vince.
@wilkin38
@wilkin38 Ай бұрын
I don't think Vince was dramatic enough about playing video games instead of painting before 4.0. Still not convinced. Sorry.
@Lawni5
@Lawni5 Ай бұрын
Oh no Vince, you vape that shit? 😢
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
You mean I vape? Yep, it was the only way to stop smoking sadly. :)
@syd4890
@syd4890 Ай бұрын
Fml an ad every 7mins is too much 🤬
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Yes, KZbin is insane, I have deleted all of those extra ads, they do it automatically and I have to manually delete them.
@jakea3950
@jakea3950 Ай бұрын
​@VinceVenturella thanks vince! There was eithet no or minimal ads. Hope you guys still can get decent revenue
@jocelynsiouville8499
@jocelynsiouville8499 Ай бұрын
i'm at the 52 min timer and i don't want to play to 4.0 because of the incentive to go low drop and own the game. And the underdog being here and benefit the most skilled player
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
I think its okay, honestly, in the end, I still have tremendous fun, but its a shame on those items
@bobvanemmerik4378
@bobvanemmerik4378 Ай бұрын
Not to expensive, try living Australia
@massqueraider
@massqueraider Ай бұрын
Try living in New Zealand
@captainferrite
@captainferrite Ай бұрын
I'm excited for the core rules, but judging from the faction articles they still balance them by throwing darts at a wall. And I hate this abstract progressive scoring that feels like armies are chasing victory coins that are just randomly showering down from the sky, not fighting for any tangible tactical or strategic benefit.
@cyriltournier
@cyriltournier Ай бұрын
This is becoming impossible to listen to due to the enormous number of advertisment.
@TheRealThirdME
@TheRealThirdME Ай бұрын
Vince is not deciding how many ads are shown, so the blame goes to Google 👍
@cyriltournier
@cyriltournier Ай бұрын
@@TheRealThirdME I know. But it is a problem
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
It is a problem, KZbin is killing me, I deleted all the extra ads.
@cyriltournier
@cyriltournier Ай бұрын
@@VinceVenturella I don't mind listening to a few adds if I know it will help the channel. But does it Vince, or is it just going into YT's pocket?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
@@cyriltournier Theoretically some small portion comes to me, but they insert so many stupid ads, I hate it and can't stop it, so I have to go in the next morning and delete them all. It's no issue.
@syd4890
@syd4890 Ай бұрын
Why bother with 4.0 when in three years youll have 5.0, and in six years time 6.0 and so on? Also GW sells you different editions and "games" but theyre always the same d6 bore 😂
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
The future is only a day away. ;)
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