Rob, I want you to hold me tight and tell me that Disciples of Tzeentch are gonna be ok. Please just rip off that bandage and show me the truth
@alexcannobbio7106 ай бұрын
They sound good and fun to play for me so far. Im more worried about slaanesh
@thehonestwargamerstreams6 ай бұрын
they arent. sorry bud
@mirbeau1116 ай бұрын
They’re so shit sorry
@marc-andredeslauriers76876 ай бұрын
@@thehonestwargamerstreams Patiently waiting for Slaves to Darkness. I feel like they’re in good shape coming in V4 😎😈
@ihaiaoconnor12096 ай бұрын
@@thehonestwargamerstreams take that back, please, please no
@garregalen833 ай бұрын
Love that you are so positive in these videos.
@RybackStun6 ай бұрын
I was hoping that Fyreslayers would be one of the big "Herohammer" armies, but it seems like you'll need at least 2-4 small units to support most of the heroes presented in these warscrolls. Oh well, good job on the coverage Rob!
@chriscrane14826 ай бұрын
Possibly but you can definitely go herohammer, it just needs some runefathers or runesons to take doomseekers and grimwraths
@juapa28036 ай бұрын
Excelente vídeo! Thank you Rob. Amazing job. IMHO Fyreslayers have become very fun to play and even stronger than last edition. But probably much harder. It’s not a forgiven army… love those angry dwarves. BTW, those vulkite gaining 1 point of rend… excellent!!!
@thehonestwargamerstreams6 ай бұрын
I'm so happy you like them
@kilivanjg28132 ай бұрын
Feels like almost every unit in the game has at minimum 1 rend. Making our almost army wide 6+ save really horrible. Even more than normal
@paramite675 ай бұрын
I wonder why Vulkite berzerkers hit on 4+, are their axe made out of soap ?
@ryanthompson70066 ай бұрын
Thanks Rob, great overview as always. Looking forward to seeing some creative army lists.
@theo85136 ай бұрын
I was hoping Gotrek would of been added in as a named character for the Fyrelsayers.
@thehonestwargamerstreams6 ай бұрын
Me too
@toferkrz9466 ай бұрын
Why would he though? He doesn't even like them. He just nicked their rune and one of their axes and went off. Tells them to sod off then he meets them and gets pissed when people mistake him for one. Heck, in the books, he's spent more time alongside Kharadron than Fyreslayers.
@asurman776 ай бұрын
I'm stoked to get my angry dwarfs on the table again. Been my main army since they released in the wild west times lol
@WindlordRyu6 ай бұрын
Best part of new Fyreslayers is every model having a melee range 3 times their height.
@capt.mannerings80956 ай бұрын
Look funky. Thanks for doing these and allowing me to understand a bit more about the enemies.
@SanguisMorthis6 ай бұрын
Working hard as usual eh Rob ;) much appreciated
@getorix16 ай бұрын
Thanks Rob and chat, been waiting to see the fyreslayers. Disappointed in the grimwrath berserker at first look but overall looks very exciting need to get those vulkyn flameseekers built!
@kilivanjg28132 ай бұрын
Grimwrath Berzerker pairs really well as a secondary attack, guarding a runemaster or standing along side either variation of Hearthguard Beserkers.
@MrLakebass6 ай бұрын
For the auric flamekeeper's buff that relies on friendly units dying would the manifestations count? I assume they count as enemy unit for opponent abilities. It could make his buff in an infantry and priest heavy army reliable.
@thehonestwargamerstreams6 ай бұрын
No they wouldn't but good question
@bartswargaming6 ай бұрын
This man....out here doing the lords work....❤
@thehonestwargamerstreams6 ай бұрын
I'll do more
@ToriGiffin6 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing all of these Rob!
@nappykensei6 ай бұрын
I am actually excited for my army. I've only been playing for about 2 years now. I might actually be competitive.
@thehonestwargamerstreams6 ай бұрын
I'm so glad buddy
@Braderz-lh1wu6 ай бұрын
Please tell me kharadon overlords are still good 4th edition. I just bought a 3k point army, and im praying their good 🙏🙏
@Enlorand6 ай бұрын
we missed the khorne factionpack focus, any chance we could see you target the faction for this season?
@riccardopaglicci50286 ай бұрын
Will the crit(mortal) rune effect the magmadroth attacks? Or it only effect the hero riding it? I dont really mastered this new rules so im confused
@thehonestwargamerstreams6 ай бұрын
No
@macuma55335 ай бұрын
Now they only need actually interesting models
@cmleibenguth6 ай бұрын
I don't know how Fyreslayers will compare overall after this I can make the following observation --- army design is following WH40k 10th Edition setup This to me is a negative that will lead to far too streamlined armies with a high degree of homogeneity The available choices, despite being fewer in number, are still no more competitive than when there were many choices There is still an obvious choice for optimal builds And now that there is no "generic" set of traits and artifacts (as per 3rd) -- if your army is a have not with poor choices, you're just SOL unless the GHB Season Rules are generous My only positive comments with the rules changes from AoS 3 to 4 are the modularity aspect, the clarification on a number of abilities, and the wording on many of the core rules
@theopkid24856 ай бұрын
What happened to slaves to darkness this weekend?
@theopkid24856 ай бұрын
Tbf, there are a lot of units to go through
@Aeothera6 ай бұрын
I dont play these, but they look exciting. Might be my next army.
@schmidtBoise5 ай бұрын
Can't reinforce Vulkyn Flameseeker units according to the July 2024 Battle Profiles.
@Grigorim6 ай бұрын
I almost forgot to like and subscribe wow
@timwilhelmi93586 ай бұрын
Looking at the battle traits as a slaanesh player makes me cry...
@MatthewSwain6 ай бұрын
All depends on points.
@KennethLinke-e4q4 ай бұрын
Barton Rapid
@kalebwalters6 ай бұрын
Rob! We need Tzeentch! We will crush with them! ❤
@thehonestwargamerstreams6 ай бұрын
I'll try
@ebert426 ай бұрын
Cannot stack runes can we? No 5+ and Strikes first on an enemies charge phase. Runemaster replaced roll looking for 6, nice! Flamekeepers + Doomseekers = fun, stacking +1 dmg? Doomeseekers lists will live on! Great review as always!
@thehonestwargamerstreams6 ай бұрын
Cannot stack runes and thanks xxx
@CaesarRoy-l7h3 ай бұрын
Brett Drive
@mypointofview7776 ай бұрын
Rob you was so positive about OBR but so much is missing and the glaring minimal healing seems so weird from a death army?! And katakros lost a lot of his identity. I’m ready to be a special guest speaker
@thehonestwargamerstreams6 ай бұрын
Lots armies lost lots buddy. You gotta accept this is a game of smaller rules
@olafolafsson27556 ай бұрын
OBR has a huge toolkit with creative and adaptive solutions for any situation. You can built different archetypes and play the game in every phase if you want to. Probably one of the most popular armies (yet again).
@ce48796 ай бұрын
Good timing one showing the firey lads. Fits this volcanic summer heatwave that’s hitting us. 🔥 🔥 (But yeah their rules look hype & spicy! My guesses about the Flamestrikes were spot-on, total mortal damage engines to literally melt armored opponents & beasties 🌋)
@timp60056 ай бұрын
The funty gold grabbers, afore the dispossessed in which they sprung?! Yer a good ungi rob.
@neem3776 ай бұрын
Sad Lofnir noises
@kurukblackflame6 ай бұрын
My smooth orcy brain can't figure out how a slow combat army with 6+ and 5+ saves (and a crappy ward) will live long enough to do very much. The Fyreslayer players seem to be happy, though, so they must be okay XD I know they get various buffs and synergies, but so do all the armies-And those other combat armies have 3+ armour saves... They seem very squishy for dwarfs (who's main defining feature as a race is toughness). Did GW forget that Toughness was a stat? I guess that got rolled into Health? 6+ save on combat units though. These dwarfs will die in droves to a light breeze. The buffs get them up to the heady heights of the chaff of most armies. I'm almost certainly wrong about them being a bit pants, but they seem...not good. I like the theme of the army but the range needs a boost. Also not sure about the rules but probably wrong on that. Otherwise would collect :)
@franzt89556 ай бұрын
Fyreslayers before had +1 save and no ward, the battlesmith and the rune giving a 6++ once per game. Now they have a 6++ built-in, and while the battlesmith don't help anymore, it's easy to set up for the rune giving now a 5++ and à +1 save when needed. And with the runemaster who will very high odds to be able to buff a rune turn 2, you can make some stupid combos like everyone having strike first AND wounding on 2+. You also seems to forget the FS are multi wounds, vulkites bringing 20 wounds for 150 pts make them less frail than at first thought and the army can spam a prayer giving -1 to be wounded and the infernoth also doing so. Everyone have at least rend-1, many heroes and monsters having -2 with a lot of multidmg attacks, and several ways to throw mortals and lower ennemy save/improve their own rend. Like, vulkyns for 160 pts have 18 wounds at 5+/6++ (unbuffed) and throw 27 attacks 3+/3+/-1/1 with rend -2 on monsters. They'll be fine.
@JosephParker-e8y3 ай бұрын
Alayna Brooks
@leonardogoncalves53726 ай бұрын
nice
@Onk3lM06 ай бұрын
Khorne, when?
@VilzeTSF6 ай бұрын
Do Khorne!! 💀💀
@thehonestwargamerstreams6 ай бұрын
I will
@al_s936 ай бұрын
I dont like the glass cannon direction they have went in
@thehonestwargamerstreams6 ай бұрын
Hope they play better than they read for you
@al_s936 ай бұрын
@@thehonestwargamerstreams question- why wouldn't army wide battle traits affect companions? It's not an ability used by a friendly unit.
@kilivanjg28133 ай бұрын
Yep. Only 2 5+ saves across the main infantry is criminal
@BloodKraven6 ай бұрын
Fire dwarfs
@Isrephael16 ай бұрын
Speaking of hot, I used to think Louise was the hot one in the relationship. But, then you started releasing these, and... damn, if you ain't packin' the heat! 🥵 #AgeOfStudmar #DoesTheFlannelMatchTheDrapes?
@HotelAlex876 ай бұрын
Fyreslayers have absolutely nothing against magic. All units have a 5+/ 6+ ward, but only a 6+ safe. And they were and still are an army that is 4 inches fast. I seriously wonder how you can even win a game with them.
@rotm44476 ай бұрын
5+ wards, high damage, great allegiance, they'll be fine.
@40kVallin6 ай бұрын
By using the great runes at the right time, power up a Runemaster to use his special skill at the right time too. Most armies who are strong in magic, don´t have many priests. For example there is a general prayer that lets you revive an infantry hero with full life. Just like everyone else, we have to try a bit and get used to the changes. But if your opponent brings big monsters and you have the Grimhold Exile, he will hurt them...a lot! And due to objectives now only have 3" range instead of 6, the opponent has to stand closer to our units. With the run and charge rune, there is a good chance we will get there and demolish them.
@azreal16 ай бұрын
And we still don't know the point's or?
@40kVallin6 ай бұрын
@@azreal1 Nope, many people still panic because of changed rules.
@profparm6 ай бұрын
So on the webstore, Gotrek is under the Fyreslayers, but you didn't cover him. Any word on if he's somewhere else or getting the legends axe this edition?
@thehonestwargamerstreams6 ай бұрын
The wasn't in the rules pack
@OfPeas6 ай бұрын
I didn't see this in rules. How does a Priest(2) work for prayers? If I try to do Prayer of Ash and get a '3', can I do it again in an effort to get it off in a single round? Otherwise this priest is speaking in tongues and is somehow doing two chants at the exact same time, speaking gibberish.
@Mensch7776 ай бұрын
A priest (2) can chant 2 different prayers in the same round. So if you really want to get the Prayer of Ash out you can chant something else and add the number to your ritual points and use them for your second cast. And for fluff reasons, mabe the priest is chanting a remix of the two prayers because he has that holy bling? :D
@OfPeas6 ай бұрын
@@Mensch777 So ritual points are not tied directly the prayer you're choosing to chant, they're tied to the priest. So Prayer of Ash, then do a different prayer, next time do a different prayer. Maybe stock up an ungodly amount of ritual points for the fun of it? Feels kinda strange from a story perspective. Would imagine whichever god they're praying to would just lose their patience with them. Cash in will you?! Another question. If I do Prayer of Ash, get a 3, I can't do Prayer of Ash again, so I decide to do Wrath of Vulcatrix and roll a 4. Can I do Prayer of Ash now that I have 7 ritual points? Or do I have to do Wrath of Vulcatrix because it's what I just rolled for? Doesn't that mean I lose all of my ritual points, making it take longer for me to get Prayer of Ash off? Doesn't this make Priest (2) largely......meh?
@harrisonlaw79276 ай бұрын
@@OfPeas I wouldn’t say it’s Meh, it allows you to aim for those super powered prayers that require an 8 or 9+ in one turn as opposed to having to do it over two turns. You will essentially choose the less important prayer first, whether you succeed or not doesn’t matter you just choose to bank the ritual points. (Or course you can still spend them if you want to). Then you chant the prayer that is more important at that time, add the previous ritual points to it to either guarantee it goes off, providing you don’t roll a 1, or go for it enhanced version. Priest(2) seems very powerful to me, especially seeing you can gain ritual points in your opponents turn using a CP.
@sneakybeak40326 ай бұрын
First!
@thesoothsayer92236 ай бұрын
Remember in 2024 when chaos dwarfs were on Order and called fyreslayers? O wait, me from 2026 might have broken some time travel spoiler rules