Age of Sigmar Battle Report: Kharadron Overlords Vs Stormcast Eternals!!

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Жыл бұрын

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@ChristopherRidge
@ChristopherRidge Жыл бұрын
Really glad to see KO on the channel! This was a very fun bat rep for me, I really like both of these armies. So yeah, KO is a really weird technical army. I feel like their biggest weaknesses are the things you pointed out: no magic defense of really any kind, no wards, and an over-reliance on winning roll-offs. Their damage output is mostly in their shooting phase, so they get hit really hard by double-turns. I'm still learning the army myself, so I don't want to make it sound like I know any better than y'all (because I certainly don't), but I think the problem with this list was too many frigates. I think of the big transport vessels as less like big pieces of damage output and more like channels of damage output for other units. The Ironclad is what you use to load up 10 to 15 Thunderers and just snipe from 18" away. The Frigate is your battering ram. Load it up for 9 to 12 melee boys (I've found that an Admiral or two complimented by 6 to 9 Skywardens with pikes or Endrinriggers with saws works well) to Kool-Aid-Man themselves into melee. Use the 3D6 charge Footnote and the fly-high command to guarantee a key charge. But 2 Frigates and an Ironclad, with no Thunderers and no Skywardens, might not be the best use of the army. I've had fun with Barak-Zon, 9 Skywardens, an Admiral, and a Dirigible Endrinmaster in a Frigate. That sounds like something David would like (used it to delete a Megagargant in Round 1 once, which was VERY satisfying). And the other half of the list is 15 Thunderers with a Khemist (which turns out to be a LOT of shooting that can hurt REALLY badly with the free extra rend) and a Gunhauler or 2 complimented by some Endrinriggers for nabbing objectives or running support with the Frigate. Oh, and the 9 Skywardens are good for melee, but also for shooting whatever the Frigate charges into first; turns out a shooting profile for 27 attacks at 3s and 3s with -1 rend (plus possible buffs, like the Admiral's extra rend, All-Out Attack, etc.) ain't nothing to ignore. Also try 10 of 15 Thunderers (all rifles and the cannon; screw the other weapon profiles) in an Ironclad to just load up on shooting. I just think over half of this list was dedicated to big boats with bad melee and no support, which isn't ideal. The point of the Frigate is to unload a bunch of Strike-First melee. But they didn't capitalize on that at all in this game. Thank you for putting up with my obnoxiousness! I love you guys, and I love these armies, so here's hoping for more love for them in the future. Cheers!
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
As always, thank you for the well thought out comment and the super thanks love!! I just filmed KO vs Idoneth with an ironclad/thundered combo and it did serious work. All good points regarding list building, KO is still not a melee army and they play much better by trading and scoring late game. I hope you like the next KO report aaaaaannnnnddd I am working on edits for BcR vs Ironsunz right now! Steven Newberry came out to flex with his orks again and it was a ton of fun. You're gonna love that report 😉
@MarkedForGlory
@MarkedForGlory Жыл бұрын
@@BattleshockWargaming also don't overlook Grundstok Gunhaulers, they give a ward to the Ironclad. I'm also building a KO army and played several games, the fun stuff I do with Gunhaulers is to pack Thundrik in one (with a compartment upgrade) and then just fly him over somewhere where he can unleash his 3d6 shooting + choking fug to damage as much stuff as possible while his profiteers give him 5 or 6 up ward. Basically a specialist team that can hold enemy for an entire turn.
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Жыл бұрын
KO have some magic defense Maybe not enough to stop Teclis, Kroak, or Tzeentch -- but enough to stop a key spell from say SCE or DoK for a turn before removing key pieces With spell in a Bottle, they basically have been given +100 points to their list They can fit all of their best heroes in a single list, potentially multiple, while also having multiple bricks of 3+ save high ranged damage Thunderers (safely tucked into an Ironclad further boosting their defenses) Kharadron are in a very good place right now
@chilicrab8823
@chilicrab8823 Жыл бұрын
Great to see KO!!
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
We are excited to add them to the collection. Thank you for joining us we hope you enjoyed the report!
@LeonBleak
@LeonBleak Жыл бұрын
I have been having decent success with a Barak Zon, warden army with 2 frigates. I really like Master the Skies artycle, but I have found That "Settle the Grudges" is the best one, That +1 to wound against a single unit is vital, for taking out what you need to kill turn 1. In this battle, for example, if you pick the concussors you would have definetly taken them out in a single round of shooting, and the game may have been different. I also like the Celestium Burst Grenade to either pile on my Grudged target or to take down a different target in round 2.
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming 11 ай бұрын
Love the idea! Clearly, I need more reps with KO, but they are very fun and looking forward to bringing them again soon!!
@user-qq5np9gg7f
@user-qq5np9gg7f Жыл бұрын
I love it when you run Stormcast! 😍 Great content, as usual, guys
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment we love running Stormcast too! Glad you are enjoying the reports!
@theodubois8930
@theodubois8930 Жыл бұрын
Very very good battle report, i totally love your humour and the way you jooking with you opponent !! Continue to make us dream with yours games !! i realy enjoy it ! Kiss from France !!
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Thank you Theo! Hope to see you in the comments and on our Discord 😉
@spartangamingtw9585
@spartangamingtw9585 Жыл бұрын
not a bad first shot at piloting the KO ! it reminded me a lot of my own first game of KO. They are a VERY tricky army to get use to. KO is a late game army 100%, putting the ironclad out there like a dangling carrot wasn't very advisable. The list itself was great, but IMO you should have used fly high ALOT more. KO are about superior mobility and firepower. Use that mobility and ideally, spread your boats out and create a shooting gallery in a central position between the 3 of them to focus fire anything into oblivion. the bomblets was a great choice ! always toss it at whatever is the biggest threat! For objectives, fly high is your best friend. Early game focus on wiping units, points are for turn 3, 4, & 5. scoring the extra point for his home objective the last 3 rounds could have made up for any low scoring early rounds. obviously all of this comes down to the dice and its easier said then done. overall it was a great battle report, can't wait to see the KO fleet in action again
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Great input and thank you for taking the time to break some things down. I brought a more optimal list into Idoneth Deepkin over the weekend and played MUCH better, kiting the opponent and focusing on trades rather than over reaching. I'm excited for you to see it when it drops!
@coachzarou
@coachzarou Жыл бұрын
My M. M. M m m m m m m. M m m m m m m m. M m. M m m a 😊
@CelestialPizza
@CelestialPizza Жыл бұрын
As a new KO player I got to rep the KO to win! That being said; you only get the Admiral's Flagship rule if the Admiral themself is your general, so having the Endrinmaster as your general precents that. At least said Endrinmaster doesn't need to be your general to make Riggers battleline anymore.
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Good catch thank you for the comment, We will make sure to get right on the next report.
@christinesmith7566
@christinesmith7566 Жыл бұрын
great battle report guys! but daaaaang that ending score lol. always fun to watch guys
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks for always following our content Christine, you are a badass.
@theturnerfamilyvideos-fy1he
@theturnerfamilyvideos-fy1he Жыл бұрын
KO !!! Great battle report guys. Keep up the great work.
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks alot! Tons of stuff on the way, just filmed 3 epic guest reports this weekend and Michael and I are back in the studio this weekend filming new Seraphon and Gloomspite Gitz lists. Hope you get to check the new videos out! Thanks for being a member, we appreciate you
@tmkpainting3734
@tmkpainting3734 Жыл бұрын
Soo excited to see Stormcast back on the table! Looking forward to this match ! Great job guys 😊🙏
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Krondys and Concussors are a tough nut to crack, and Everblaze Comet can be devastating to castle armies... Hope you enjoy the report!!
@MrMintyfreshsmell
@MrMintyfreshsmell Жыл бұрын
KO for the win!!
@hungrymatador213
@hungrymatador213 Жыл бұрын
Great looking armies fellas and two of my favs! David in round 2 I think you forgot to unleash hell when you got charged by the Sequies, relictior, and Krondys.
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming 11 ай бұрын
I may have, this was a rugged start to playing KO, as the comet and high armor saves of SCE made my shooting a bit weak. Also regarding list composition, I just didn't have enough synergy in my army to go the distance. Killing a few extra models would have felt nice tho.
@MrUbbzy
@MrUbbzy Жыл бұрын
FINALLY MY DWARF BOYS!
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
They are ready to drop bombs baby! Another report either them vs IDK on the way soon :)
@Unaidedfoot
@Unaidedfoot Жыл бұрын
I’m loving the channel but don’t see a join button for membership. Keep up the great reports .
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Check in the description box below the video :) Hope that helps and thank you very much for watching our channel!
@redluke8119
@redluke8119 6 ай бұрын
Love the Overlords! Cant wait for the battle rep for the Overlords and Tzeentch
@KhroweDontYouKnow
@KhroweDontYouKnow 9 ай бұрын
Like this KO line up fits the faction well!
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming 8 ай бұрын
I love KO, they are harder to play than they look, but when things sync up, they can lay the hurt. Not so much in this match up tho haha
@Kerldogg13
@Kerldogg13 Жыл бұрын
Loving the new graphic overlays! My heart wants SCE to win because I play them, but I gotta pull for the dwarves because it's a new army! Love seeing the growth and new additions
@Kerldogg13
@Kerldogg13 Жыл бұрын
Wow Michael! 😳😳
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Bro I know! I think I sent it a bit to hard bud!
@Kerldogg13
@Kerldogg13 Жыл бұрын
@@BattleshockWargaming THROW IT IN REVERSE TERRY
@erisedhammer3286
@erisedhammer3286 Жыл бұрын
Balloon boys are better off focusing on melee and going in a frigate. If you charge a frigate with 9 balloons inside, all 9 can fight from within for 19 saw attacks. this should see off the concussors much better than 1 round of shooting and 2 saws + 2 gun butts. You need a screen to protect your boats. a unit of arkanauts or 3 balloons in front of your ironclad would have prevented it from getting rolled immediately, allowing you to counter punch much harder as you lost a quarter of you army very easily. Use boat shooting for lightly armored units, use thunderers or balloon boys for dealing with armored units (khemist admiral rend is MUCH better on thunderers, but obviously is OK on balloon boys). Saws are almost always better as they give balloons rend 2 in combat and shooting.. With saws balloon boys ALMOST hit as hard in melee as fulminators. Main problem with this list is too many boats without enough infantry. KO boats do not output much damage but provide mobility to infantry. KO infantry do all the damage - thunderers shooting (with a bit of melee via fumigator mortals) and balloon boys melee (plus a bit of shooting). Arkanauts are OK but outperformed by thunderers and balloons in every way.
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Very well thought out comment, thanks for all the hot tips. My second game we filmed went much better with the addition of a bunch of thunderers and admiral as general
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Жыл бұрын
Second this comment Also, Purple Sun a better choice for your spell in a Bottle The extra rend will help you melt Stormcast and Chaos (and in mirror matches against bricks of KO Thunderers)
@chonaya7694
@chonaya7694 6 ай бұрын
Awesome batrep. When do you actually use Sequitors in your army? This is the 1st time I see a Sequitors in an SCE army.
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming 6 ай бұрын
Sequitors are good for 5+ ward in certain situations and actually have some fair damage output. The 4 up armor save is a minus, but they still have play!
@alex3ritten
@alex3ritten 10 ай бұрын
I have been using Barack zon with 2 390 point skywardens, a frigate, drekki flynt, brokk grundson, endrinmaster with endrinharness, aetheric navigator, codewrite, and a gunhauler, with a warlord battalion and 2 vanguard with the wardens. With the 4+ rally I got a ton of value with the wardens and won both games Ive played with this list against tzeentch and soulblight also aetheric navigator is very good for the point cost.
@alex3ritten
@alex3ritten 10 ай бұрын
Oh and 1 unit of endrinriggers
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming 10 ай бұрын
I like this list! I need to get some sky Wardens to add to the collection 😉
@Nick_Patrick
@Nick_Patrick Жыл бұрын
Those boats are looking good!
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Michael LOVED painting them! I think I will buy 5 more ships for him to paint because he'll LOVES painting them sooooo much lol
@RAWxxx07
@RAWxxx07 3 ай бұрын
I really like that krondys paint job… really nice blue
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming 3 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍 Krondys is Michael's favorite SCE Dragon :)
@brentlucas731
@brentlucas731 11 ай бұрын
KO bring 15 Thunderers full load out in an ironclad with a khemist and admiral. It is a shredder. Put a Endrinriggers in a Frigate. Also use heroic willpower for one dispell a turn or bring a Navigator for another. If you are investing in 3 ship a gunhauler makes a nice screen and gives the big boats a ward.
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming 11 ай бұрын
I did precisely this against Idoneth Deepkin to great effect! Video coming soon :)
@maxbaumann4434
@maxbaumann4434 Жыл бұрын
Enjoying your Batreps, well done. One thing, you placed the two side objectives wrong, they should be 7.5" from the edge. Regarding the Flagship rule, that is only unlocked when making the Admiral your general.
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
yep we did set those wrong. Weird we do know where those objectives go idk how we screwed that on up lol
@michaelanglin3152
@michaelanglin3152 Жыл бұрын
KO for the win!
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment. Comment again when you are done with the report to let us know how it went.
@smatta84
@smatta84 11 ай бұрын
Was there a reason that there was no unleash hell from the iron clad round 1?…I think you could have likely lifted a dracoth and consequently survived the combat
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming 11 ай бұрын
I either forgot or did not have enough command points. Probably forgot lol. Thanks for watching !!
@TheSerpentScribe
@TheSerpentScribe Жыл бұрын
Would love KO to win this since I have been waiting for them to make an appearance, but with no thunderers or skywardens in the list I feel like this will be abit of a stomp in favour of the stormcast
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Have no fear Thunderers are built painted and coming to the next report. and Michael has more skywardens to build and paint sitting on his desk right now.
@alexandermyers2615
@alexandermyers2615 Жыл бұрын
Here we go! I always love seeing Stormcast, particularly with dragons! We will see how they play against KO, but as usual I am rooting for the dragon!
@alexandermyers2615
@alexandermyers2615 Жыл бұрын
Well that was a fun one there! I'm always glad to see Krondys do well, but KO was fun to watch here. I know nothing about them but the only thing I can thing of doing different was maybe use the artifact on Krondys. Even if he doesn't die doing some good damage on him may have been worth it. Either way it was a good first game I think and a few more games will get you used to the rules. Good game to both of y'all!
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
So we kept rolling that dice after the Relictor died and it did 29 mortal wounds! It would have kill krondys lol
@alexandermyers2615
@alexandermyers2615 Жыл бұрын
@@BattleshockWargaming hahah that's an insane amount of damage coming out of an artifact like that. Seems like a must have item, even if it doesnt always play out that well
@sneakybeak4032
@sneakybeak4032 Жыл бұрын
Yeah finally we got KO! I'd love to see them vs OBR just Saiyan... 👀
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
KO vs OBR could be a fun matchup. We would have to teach michael to pilot the OBR
@andrewziesig9392
@andrewziesig9392 Жыл бұрын
KO has got this!
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
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@Stryder467
@Stryder467 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what the other factions are like to paint, but as I have been working slowly for 8 months on my KO, they feel incredibly difficult, complicated, and intricate. The Arkanaut Companies in particular are, in my opinion, too detailed for their own good. Too much equipment and stuff on their models, and they come in groups of ten. I have to be cheering for my own faction here, even if I feel like they aren't going to win with this particular list. Arkanaut Admiral is the go-to General because they issue a Command to a single Skyvessel for free once per turn(ONLY if they are the General; you said the Endrinmaster in Dirigible Suit is the General here), and they are the only Hero that can issue Fly High, Disengage, and Combat Landing(Except the aircraft themselves). I could say more, but I won't. It pains me to watch these factions, who are near and dear to my heart, slaughter each other, but I shall soldier on. Let's see who wins. Yeah, pretty much happened as I predicted. Good match, gentlemen. Glad to see the Duardin entering the fray! :D
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
It gets even better in the next report with them. This was literally my first time fielding them. They take on Idoneth Deepkin with a Thunderclad and an Admiral as general next time 😉
@alphshift7857
@alphshift7857 2 ай бұрын
any advice against KO playing as OBR? aside from aura of sterility of course
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming 2 ай бұрын
Large units are a pain for KO, because if the unit survives, you can bring back quite a few models. Low drops to guarantee turn order is also very helpful, because you don't want them to shoot you twice. Huddle up on the objectives and let them come to you to score. Teleportation is less useful when they cant teleport onto objectives. Hope that helps :)
@alphshift7857
@alphshift7857 2 ай бұрын
@@BattleshockWargaming I'll make sure to use this in my next game at sunday, Thanks man!
@rewmeister
@rewmeister 11 ай бұрын
Stormcast are so cool looking. i just picked up about 800pts of them and am painting currently. so fun. cant wait to play my first game
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming 11 ай бұрын
More Stormcast battles on the way with the new GHB!!
@rewmeister
@rewmeister 11 ай бұрын
@BattleshockWargaming that's great news, I've been going through your videos and watching everything with stormcast. I'm heading to my local GW store today to get a couple more units. Hopefully, I will be at 2k points soon. And I love the content you guys put out. As a new player, it's great to watch and be able to understand what's going on with minimal trips to Google haha
@azreal1
@azreal1 Жыл бұрын
I think KO wins... Pretty sure Krondys is dead to early 😢 but love to see ko here, my first army❤
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
KO are technical AF! I just hope I didn't flub too many of the rules, literally my first time playing them. On camera to boot LOL. Hope you enjoyed the report.
@azreal1
@azreal1 Жыл бұрын
@@BattleshockWargaming Always enjoy your reports :) New KO is a lot of tec, old book was easier but less fun to play. To kill units with high armor, you need definitely more Skyfarer, they do the damage the boats are more the support and tec.
@damianone4404
@damianone4404 Жыл бұрын
Im rooting for the duardin.. lets See
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
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@ThePerfectSeth
@ThePerfectSeth Жыл бұрын
Let's go Stormcast! KO the KO!
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
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@johnholman3978
@johnholman3978 10 ай бұрын
Go Stormcast!
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming 8 ай бұрын
They definitely went this game lol
@thomsonelite
@thomsonelite Жыл бұрын
Who's gonna win? Only the faithful!!!!!!
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
ONLY THE FAITHFULL
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Жыл бұрын
As much as I like SCE, surprised they won this match The SCE list here wasn't particularly strong The KO list wasn't oppressive either, maybe that's why Good game gang :)
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
We were surprised as well. We though the KO firepower was going to take the Stormcast apart. But the everblaze comet and the concussors really brought the pain
@hectorcasillas2209
@hectorcasillas2209 11 ай бұрын
Storm cast for the win!!!
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming 11 ай бұрын
Stormcast can still bring the hurt!
@dreihander6528
@dreihander6528 Жыл бұрын
Untill now Krondos seems like auto-lose - this is my vote.
@dreihander6528
@dreihander6528 Жыл бұрын
Surprised to see SCE win!
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Krondys can be surprisingly strong. Michael is a big fan of him. We hope you enjoyed the battle report. Thank you for your comment and support
@erictrudel1164
@erictrudel1164 Жыл бұрын
Ko win win easily
@BattleshockWargaming
@BattleshockWargaming Жыл бұрын
Comment again once you finish the report, Let us know how it all shook out!
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