Age of Sigmar Infantry Mathhammer- What is the Best Infantry in Age of Sigmar 4??

[@tap5445]

He's gonna come around and say it's stabbas, I'm calling it right now!

[@ross_sco]

I really like these videos just for a starting point. Whilst math doesn’t lie it also doesn’t tell the full story. You can see units at the top of the charts but you then need to look at how these units interact with faction battle traits and the meta opposition. Nice work!

[@johnhildenbrand2642]

The math also doesn't usually take into account YOUR play style, or the way you like to build lists. If a certain model is reallly strong when played aggressively, or is a great trade piece, but you don't like to play a trade type of game, then the math isn't really helping you

[@carlfromchicago6908]

Thanks!

[@philippkartaev73]

Stuart, thanks for another great release. As someone who played in a tournament with an army of 80 hammerers, I can say that they are good, but they definitely have significant limitations

[@bloodbathnbeyond]

Loving this series of videos and loving the crunch. I didn’t see Black Guard in the video did I miss them?

[@olafolafsson2755]

Of course the dwarfs are the most effective unit in the game. That’s what our ancestors have said for ages.

[@mrTirwit]

You're unstoppable lately! Love to see it. Let's go!!

[@sepher32]

Wardens being Lumineth's most effective pts/damage is surprising.

[@MankeyPaw]

Always a great video. Excited to see people misinterpret it online!

[@JebodiahJunfan]

Totally agree with your stormvermin take, they’re great and the amount of potential they have for 280 points and the amount of rend u can stack on them on the charge (claw horde battle formation) they’re always at -2 rend 61 attacks u just have to protect them and ensure u don’t get charged as like u say U dont want that even though they have anti charge rend but they’re probs dying so u have to play sneaky/smart as u should with skaven as u have tricks and bodies to do that!

[@Irongutsman]

Great to see a fellow stormvermin enjoyer! The new models are so great too, I can't wait to get them on the table. A flawed unit but as you said, with sneaky tactics can be very strong!

[@JebodiahJunfan]

@@Irongutsman yeah they're flawed for sure, stick 2 wounds on them and increase their points slightly, and theyre where they should be to actually feel like elite infantry that can take a hit and dish it out

[@raymondlane]

Hooray Nurgle

[@stuartrussell8635]

It seems you've got Ogroids mixed up. Ogroid myrmidon = ogroid hero, ogroid theridons = infantry

[@odin9338]

Nice vid for a new guy its perfect.

[@elliotthompson8972]

no riverblades?

[@kilivanjg2813]

Can you please expand on why you think Vulkite shields are better "for what you want" 23:05

[@gammafighter]

I would appreciate a deeper look into how you're calculating your damage number. My best guess is that you're simulating everything against a 4+ armor save and not accounting for criticals- at least not crit mortals. Chaos Chosen and Kurnoth Greatswords seem particularly low to me. Apologies if you explained this in the video, but I didn't hear it. Against a 4+ save I have Kurnoth Swords at 10.11/12.11 and you have them at 7.94/9.94. Chosen I have at 12.44(no bonus)/16.33(khorne, on the charge) and you have 10 and 13.33.

[@Irongutsman]

It looks like I just made a few errors with the mortal wound multi-damage units, I have fixed this now!

[@danimo25]

I believe you've got the save wrong on Annihilators. base 2+ save, not 3

[@Clatzy541]

Surprised that Stuart ironbreakers placed so poorly in durability I’ve had that unit just live on the front lines for multiple battle rounds before

[@carlfromchicago6908]

I really like these videos. I think once you make the math and make it transparent you can further categorize them into like anvils, hammers, etc and also for special situations. Maybe do a video like this for “objective grabbers” and rank them too. Like fell bats and furies. I’m trying to play skaven and drowning because the equivalent are night runners with pregame move and 7” and then storm fiends can drop on opponents turn. I want to say I hate Hammerers they are the ugliest units on tiny bases and they have everything and are way too cheap there I said it. I hate chosen too but they are pointed better.

[@avossins95]

did you do ironjawz units with +1 attack since the waaagh is a bigger factor over the course of a game? To me that is a clear synergy people will use that is reliable and only depends on positioning but it is 18"

[@l337haxz0rn00b]

Would it be possible to go through all the synergies? Combine the points cost of the hero + unit and then used the buffed stats. It would be interesting to see that are compare with base stats. I suspect a lot of synergies are actually traps. Obvious caveat is that this only works where the synergy is about offense or defence.

[@BuffShamansplz]

to be fair I don't think this would shift the effective values a ton, they trimmed down a lot of synergies this edition, even soulblight gives out like +1 attack at best from Mannfred (and double fight necromancer), where as 2nd edition tome it was super easy to get +2 attacks (mannfred + vamp lord), +1 hit/+1 wound (mannfred), fight twice (vanhel's spell) + more. I would expect the biggest impact to be fight twice effects, for things like Chosen or Graveguard, after that, things like going from crit 6 to crit 5 are nice but not world shattering.

[@missKaotica]

YAY more math!

[@silencia08]

Monsters and Warmachines next

[@gabethefish7585]

Cool video! This is 'best' imfantry unit in terms of damage, correct? Also, is rend considered for damage/ average damage?

[@rotm4447]

I started adjusting my effective wound calcs to -1 armor, nothing worth playing is really out there swinging at rend zero so its just making low save look better than it actually is.

[@colloquiacanada]

Did you mean theridons not myrmidons?

[@dapperbrapper]

💯

[@orzech1080]

We don't care about Kharadons anymore? ;)

[@lois87]

Oh, please Relictors be decent xD

[@smatta84]

Gutrippaz be the goat…sorry boyz

[@masonknox77]

I don't like hearing all this fake news about Bonesplittaz, the army is obviously goated tier. There is no other reason GW would be taking them out of the game.... :)

[@orkimedes]

Enough of this boring shit, when are we getting the critter tier list. Rank the power level of the units w critters in the game, the meta needs this

[@adamjamesstudio]

They are crud

[@walterdimmick653]

Your doing it wrong at the most basic level. Comparing units across armies is next to useless and of no real help beyond the absolutely lowest tactical level of evaluation. The "value" of infantry or any unit within an army to accomplish victory points is where comparisons need to be made. Doesnt matter if something is statistically crap compared to bestigors per your math if it accomplishes your chosen victory point strategy within your army. Tier lists are themselves a "meme" driven by the algorithm and the large amount work required to actually analyze an army list in depth and discuss actual strategies to obtain or deny objectives.

[@JedrekVRoscoe]

It was clearly laid out how the chart was made. If you want to make a video on “best for tactical objectives,” then we invite you to make your own video on the subject. Go on now, you have a lot of numbers to crunch.

[@BuffShamansplz]

wouldn't call it useless, there's a strong correlation between how often these units are seen in competive lists and how efficient they are per point. It's another stat to paint a part of the picture. On a side note it's so brutal how bad GW is with balance that we don't even need spreadsheets to confirm what you can see just by looking at the scrolls. There's so many awful warscrolls like mortek guard that won't be viable until they drop them to point levels that they just become spammable, which is a terrible solution. In before someone is convinced that 4+ ethereal is the best thing in the world on a unit with 10 health, a 5+ ward that only works in combat (which you can also read as a -1 wound debuff for the mortek) vs literally anything else in the army.

[@jasonmangelsen7136]

Thanks!