AGGY VS. STAR0CHRIS, CAPTAIN_DOMO, & CATALYSTZ - Randomania Grand Finals

[@colonelmustang2203]

A lot has been said about the rules. I don't mind no somber weapons as an attempt to keep things more interesting. But cherry picking the seed to intentionally have serpentless Rykard is a bit too much.

[@Gondaldin]

1:58:44 The dramatic music syncs perfectly with "you can not use any of the somber weapons..." and it perfectly captures how desperate and epic the situation is.

[@meteorburst4646]

Ok, not allowing Serpent Hunter against Rykard seems like it should be the only exception to the no somber rule

[@yxtreme3853]

That's the only reason they put the rule in, so they couldn't use the serpent hunter, and they couldn't tell them that they can use somber but only not serpent hunter because then they would spoil the rykard fight

[@CheshireCad]

@@yxtreme3853 - No, he could've easily just said "Oh, and no Serpent Hunter, If Rykard comes up." It would've been a perfectly natural thing to remember to mention offhandedly.

[@quillcannon]

This seed quickly became about who can get hardstuck the longest on Rykard, in a sloped arena, with no Serpent Hunter. Respect Zoodle for sticking to his guns, but this bottleneck kind of made everything preceding it a bit of a pointless chicken chase

[@DanteTorn]

No respect for him on that. This was a troll and he knew it from the start as he's so smugly telling them at the start they can't use sombers at all knowing they'd have to fight Rykard in one of the worst arenas to possibly fight him in short of a tiny arena.

[@Elden_Cock_Ring]

Whoever decided on not allowing the Serpent Hunter for Rykard is smoking crack

[@fishnutz5196]

The no somber weapon rule is interesting but a little stupid tbh

[@chibychibs]

That's how I beat him the first time cos I tested serpant hunter after I left the arena to apgrade and it looked trash so it's doable, just kinda stupid.

[@leovomend8789]

Aggy was so good they had to nerf him directly

[@sanyasanya1892]

1:51:35 ah... an instant aggy classic, seeing this live was insane

[@forcerot5253]

Aggy glitching was the only way possible to make him lose😂

[@GiganticPawUnit]

Right after the announcement about banning somber weapons, I was like "Oh hey the luckiest possible drop to get early on would be the halberd you normally get from Edgar"

[@andrewbowen2837]

Out here saying the seed wasn't a 2 hour seed, but the video time indicated he was in store for a treat...

[@shoshonnie7796]

Make this the top comment to prevent spoilers

[@johncooper8539]

good idea actually

[@majorkhajiit]

We admire your sacrifice. o7

[@breakthecode4634]

​@@majorkhajiitthere was 0 sacrifice here.

[@lokilucario]

Miserable failure

[@ThePseudologist]

Organisers fucked up the finals, wow. That was miserable

[@TheInez]

that was... one of the seeds of all time

[@jajasking9652]

Yeah, the second group's seed was already the most insane seed i've ever seen And then this seed appears, making that statement inmediatly obsolote

[@Daepilin]

Well, idk... Seed might be hard... But it got insane with rykard without serpent hunter.... That was simply a dumb ruling on the organizer...

[@s-nooze]

All I can say is wow. Just wow.

[@ElementEvilTeam]

zoodle got the idea from miyazaki

[@moon_wizard1250]

Rather than just restricting somber weapons, I think they need to implement a mod that rebalances weapons in general if they want to keep things fair. Restricting like 1/3 of the weapons in the game is kinda boring / makes for less interesting matches.

[@Zeratultheking]

Eh, it makes them try to find something different and causes them to explore more. Rather than just all get a somber since its quicker to max it. There are a lot of good non-somber weapons that do amazing. Somber is just the choice of most speedrunners as you only need 9 stones vs 24 so it automatically makes it faster to get, not necessarily stronger if you max it. Its also because they so lean into somber weapons they aren't as knowledgeable about what is good so they default to easy ways like the +8 halberd which has a very low damage for how slow it is.

[@moon_wizard1250]

@@Zeratultheking okay, but there are ways around this without just saying "okay no somber weapons". How about a mod that makes all weapons have +25 and take normal stones? Again, you'd have to rebalance weapons but it's more interesting than just blanket restrictions.

[@graves47]

Congrats on getting THE RUN!

[@benbarclay4239]

did they really pick certain bosses in the seed cause that's kinda wack, what should have been an epic explosive finish turned into absolute grindfest

[@ThePseudologist]

Yeah, the run lost a lot of its excitement for me in the Mountaintops

[@mamba8862]

The moment when you saw malenia lmao

[@BtFML1]

i hope what i’m seeing as a near-unanimously very negative reception from both runners and viewers to the “le epic troll” from the organizers at least encourages them to never do something like that with the rules/seed again like it kinda just reached a point where it looked like NOBODY was having fun anymore and i feel like that’s just not even good content

[@steckbrogames]

Lil Aggy became Lil Angy

[@DanteTorn]

This seed was complete horsecrap. Actual trolling from the organizers. I would never work with them again after a stunt like this at the runners' expense.

[@mattlambert5598]

Amazing performance.

[@Kornflayx89]

Zoodle is the devil for that seed

[@dragooose]

this hurts to watch. not saying that aggy is bad the run itself just sucks

[@DanteTorn]

This was trolling on the organizers' part and turned what should've been a dramatic finale to the randomania runs into a boring slog. I had a bad feeling about the format before and I'm sad that my suspicions it was built this way to be as troll as possible while appearing okay was confirmed.

[@fishnutz5196]

​@@DanteTornyeah bro was a shit watch. Streamers hated it and when the streamer isnt having fun the viewers wont. Cata was spot on in the post match

[@nomercy8989]

Fire Giant looks kinda cool in the Elden Beast arena.

[@BloodPlusPwn]

I don't think I'd ever participate in this shit again, if they're just going to make rules specifically just to make it not fun it's not worth it

[@zagger999]

The no Somber rule when Rykard is on the path you must travel is just a time sink. There was no good reason not to allow the Serpent Hunter for that fight. This run lost its luster the moment that happened and it was kind of a fun run before that. And f Zoodle and the Randomania crew. No one's video was fun to watch!

[@FireCorias]

Spoiler warning: Everyone hated this Randomizer Seed 😂

[@itachileesan]

saying no somber weapons, is like taking away wolverine's claws.

[@habituallynostalgic6646]

Bro the Malenia fight broke my heart man 💔

[@superscatboy]

That was certainly a seed

[@brandonedwards6119]

This woud hahve been fun if Zoodle only chose one of either no somer weapons or the rykard seed. Both made it boring though.

[@fishnutz5196]

Seeds shouldnt be hand picked in the first place imo

[@Oakshield2]

Zoodle fucked up

[@Ubayla]

Well that was a pretty sucky run. Why the hell would they pick that seed???

[@DanteTorn]

Sadism? Rage clicks? There's a lot of reasons and every one of them makes me absolutely hate the announcer for it. Aggy and everyone else should never work with them again.

[@fattypurplecat]

Not sure what’s wrong but I keep getting ads every like 3 mins thanks KZbin

[@Silverfur01]

2:20:27 best pterodactyl screech i've ever heard lmfao

[@trustsomeone]

Nah adds every 5 mins is wild..

[@drachenklnd]

I just realised Aggy is a Yuumi main probably.

[@sethsanders8799]

Lame ah rules ruining the finals like aggy didn’t sweep every other run

[@Faefire]

This looked like the opposite of fun...

[@rjs9228]

Ranni ring pog

[@fishnutz5196]

Zoodle and the team that worked on this final can get f*cked tbh. No sombers is fine but why then allow a non somber thats already at +7 to be there. So smart lets make more variety but then end up having less variety. Then having Fortisaxx end game scaled is bad enough but a no serpent hunter Rykard is just pointless and makes for angry players and viewers. Then the commentator judge dudes attitude is shit too.

[@Bc4s]

ok

[@itsbooshie]

How are you able to determine where certain items drop in rando? I watch you and don't realize how you come to conclusions where things are so easily

[@nathanlaleff4273]

There is a setting in the Randomizer program that allows you to determine how much, if any, bias there is for an item to be in a similar location to itself. In example: a rare weapon, stonesword key, and starlight shard would all be in the blue tier of items, where rusty key, rold medallion, and Valkyrie prosthesis(not sure but needed an example) would be in the "key items" catagory. Higher bias makes it to where key items are more likely to be where key items originally are, weapons where weapons are and so on.

[@fishnutz5196]

Higher bias in randomisers defeats the purpose

[@kit5850]

why is there one guy thats not in emote only mode

[@colonelmustang2203]

Some people were getting around it by donating 1 bit and getting banned pretty quick. Mods also can talk.

[@MollyFC]

A green sword next to their username means they're a mod, and they're allowed to talk during emote only

[@Zanador]

They're mods

[@razerclaw2438]

Why isn’t Aggy playing shadow of the erdtree

[@adderous]

Damn it, you make me check if I'd somehow missed the release

[@justwatchinfunnyvids]

You know aggy when u get grabbed like when the runebear grabbed u if u spam buttons u can break out of the grab early and take less damage it works with almost all grabs

[@ghost0441]

Changing the rules last minute was kind of BS. They keep taking the random out of random runs.

[@meteorburst4646]

Ah yes, the randomness of everyone using the same 4 somber weapons every time

[@ajs675]

He was hard carried with the somber weapon last time, this made it more interesting to watch.

[@zagger999]

@@ajs675 I think it would have if they didn't have RYKARD as the second phase of the FIRE GIANT fight and still stood on their no Somber weapons. It kills the run when the streamer is actively pissed.

[@CheshireCad]

@@meteorburst4646 - Yeah, it's way more interesting when everyone uses the same *one* weapon. Because Zoodle never checked if the one OP non-somber was in the shop when he chose this seed. If Zoodle didn't want to see those handful of over-used sombers, then he should have just banned using them specifically.

[@tarot1919]

@@CheshireCadimagine defending shit design that made the viewers and participants annoyed. Delusional

[@hungryhedgehog4201]

You can't just restrict an elde nring challenge youtuber's access to somber weapons like that you need to do it more gradually like a seal that is prepared for release into the wild.

[@forsakenjayce7467]

3rd?

[@lebeda]

Zoodle is by far my least favorite Elden Ring streamer. It would take him 10 hours to finish this seed himself yet he thinks it’s fun to put it on these guys.

[@JDJReaver]

I don't know why everyone is rallying behind this zoodle guy. His arbitrary rules are annoying and not entertaining.

[@jajasking9652]

I think is because he got frustated out of everyone using stormhawk axe ( which, tbh, i hate this weapon too, is just unoriginal and is just the definitive L2 mindless spam ) and the draconic halberd But yeah, baning somber weapons mid way through an event is just really arbritary, and rykard without serpent Hunter is a snoozfest ( unless you have something really specific like peast threats or spiral shard ) And, if you are tired of those weapons ( which honestly, i get a bit tired to see the same few weapons all the time ) ban those, and before the event, not midway through

[@TheInez]

@@jajasking9652agreed

[@nils3031]

@@jajasking9652 It didn't really feel like Zoodle didn't want somber weapons because he's frustrated with them, he handpicked a fucked up seed that probably would've been entertaining enough on it's own and then banned somber weapons just to get reactions out of the streamers. If anything, banning somber weapons made this seed a lot less entertaining imo

[@kanepowell6521]

Nah you’re wrong zoodle cooked this one

[@CheshireCad]

@@nils3031 - The fact that he announced the rule right before the game started, without discussing it with any of the players beforehand, is proof enough that it wasn't an attempt to rebalance the match. He did it to troll them. Which wouldn't have been particularly funny even if it just made some fights comically harder. Instead it just made the fight at the finale of the tournament take 10x as long for no reason.

[@sh-ogun]

They ruin these competitions by adding stupid rules. Why no sombre when luck and the player exploring determines if they win or not? They did the same thing in bingo brawlers by randomising weapons just to even the playing field but that’s really stupid. It’s like limiting the best teams in sport by asking them not to play their best players against weaker teams to make it fair lol. Just have them play the game with no restrictions ffs

[@TheInez]

In theory I can see why it’s an okay rule. Somber does makes things easy and this was the finals of a mode made to make contestants suffer for content. In practice though, on top of this F tier seed, it made all 4 runs unfun. I wanted to have fun and laugh but the constant struggle for almost 3 hours was extremely disheartening for the viewer, I can’t even imagine for the players. RIP Cata

[@sh-ogun]

@@TheInez see, like just make players play normally. This is even understandable because it’s a randomiser but it more than pissed me off when they added the weapon randomiser to the bingo brawlers, lost all interest. In the first BB, I liked seeing upsets, skilled players like Chris, aggy and ainrun losing to less skilled players made it fun, unlike in BB2 where every loss was basically oh this person found a good weapon and the other person didn’t lmao. Like just allow the damned players play without extra stupid rules

[@sh-ogun]

Boy I didn’t even know the rykard incident before I typed this and now watching it reinforces my point, made hard for no reason

[@baggs532]

Am I the only one that thinks that for fortisaxx fight made the run infinitely more interesting? Like yeah it's annoying to not use SH but it added a real challenge for a group of extremely skilled elden ring players. 10/10 perfect level of torture on zoodle's part.

[@Nanaman720]

The fight lasted like 20 minutes with at least one reset for every one of the runners, what a boring slog

[@MakkaPakka0214]

Second?

[@Me1le]

Yeah second

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[@PolishGoblinn]

why didn't he use serpent hunter on Rykard?

[@MollyFC]

Somber weapons were banned from use

[@PolishGoblinn]

@@MollyFC why? sorry I don't have the time to look through the entire thing again and I think I missed it

[@MollyFC]

@@PolishGoblinn just a little challenge Zoodle decided to throw at the participants, and serpent hunter is somber so no dice there

[@PolishGoblinn]

@@MollyFC they could make an exception because if you don't have bleed/frost+fire weapons you are really fucked, even poison wouldn't really make a difference without bleed/frost

[@MollyFC]

​@@PolishGoblinn well they didn't so the gamers had to make do. 🤣 also as it turns out Aggy and some of the others used bleed/rot anyway. Can't recall if everyone did however

[@Aceekilor71]

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