Agony of a Witch BREAKDOWN! Emperor Belos Explained & Details You May Have Missed! (The Owl House)

[@clemcom]

Lilith: THEN WHY WERE YOU SO EASY TO CURSE Eda: a s l e e p

[@haztac5973]

That’s a really good point. If your asleep you can’t do jack sh*t

[@toothlesst1na]

Copy Paste .-.

[@haztac5973]

Robloxian Stephen ???

[@mendosaz1506]

Me watching dareen younes: imamWATCH PIGGY MEMES NoW: NAh

[@mendosaz1506]

ZzZ

[@petertracycarroll]

Lilith: then why were you so easy to curse Eda: 👁👄👁 Luz:👁👄👁 Me:👁👄👁 King: 🍰

[@vilet5257]

Lilith: 👀 ✋

[@you5692]

Me:😱😵💀☠*𝐝𝐞𝐚𝐝*

[@TheRealFiveName]

Me: 😀😐🙁😫😭

[@heyelectricjupiter7330]

Hooty:(●_●)

[@yeetwarriorcattt6133]

Na Luz should be like:🔫 (Ò👄Ó) Except it’s a real gun :P

[@lailaauto33]

Luz: Hey Lilith, do you know what humans have that made it possible we survived without magic? **pulls out gun**

[@Hardi_]

*Parry this*

[@minty2119]

Bro I thought about that.... Can't just one shot in the head finish this all?

[@Detective_Grav]

😂

[@keithcollins9274]

Yes

[@dragon2218]

*Parry this* 😂😂😂😂😂

[@commane21]

Hootie: beats up a raid. Top 10 characters who could defeat thanos in seconds

[@NuggetOG]

king: i dont feel so good, mr.hoot Hootie: Now this is a hootie level threat

[@CinnamonBruhs]

Unfair battle hootie is too op

[@arabellgoodburn2654]

"This is my favorite part!" 🦉🍵

[@bjsupersonic7006]

It wouldn’t even be seconds. I would be milliseconds. The reason the raid took so much time was because there was a lot of people and he was only using 1% of his power

[@genevievepadayao7118]

Danna terrace even said he could rival bill cipher

[@hogindoz]

The moment with Eda's eyes turning black while having heart-to-heart with Luz makes me tear up everytime I see it

[@quint8340]

Yeah so true I'm happy owlbert is ok tho 🥺🥺🥺

[@abig6762]

The fight scene was amazing just like Amity's and Luz' dance the animation was so smooth

[@pickledpasta1677]

Spencer Wan is just yes

[@abig6762]

Yep

[@Nicu-vy3gm]

And the convention fight

[@gogetter6797]

Unfortunately we might not get scenes like those again

[@jokerXXP5]

Go Getter why’s that

[@queenglory9352]

Notice how when the Emperor’s voice raised the heart started beating faster. I think the Emperor is somehow keeping it alive, with his life.

[@samanthawilliams2046]

Or, he secretly is the living imbidement of the titan, and it's his heart that's racing!

[@longhorse7957]

Or it’s like a lich thing. Like his soul is stored in the titan’s heart

[@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168]

Amity can beat up hooty yet lilith and the emperor's guards can't Kinda shows how unqualified they are against hooty

[@jacksparrowismydaddy]

maybe Hooty is only powerful against perceived threats like the EC and Amity was a guest.

[@rainbowpixelboy8321]

Hooty is the strongest character in the owl house He held back major against Amity so that he doesn't obliterate her from existence

[@alexturnbull1301]

To be fair he did beat Lilith mostly due to blind luck

[@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168]

@@alexturnbull1301 or He's the true villain

[@bubblebass4202]

That’s because hooty won’t get finessed by dweebs

[@The_Ninth_]

I realize that the diamond shape on the door could have been a reference to the diamond shaped gem Lilith has.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

What's with cartoons and diamonds/stars these days?

[@meloskillotorres1868]

Same

[@candelationsstudio5104]

@@michaelandreipalon359 tHeSe DaYs

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@candelationsstudio5104 Huh?

[@candelationsstudio5104]

@@michaelandreipalon359 I am just jk lol,I don't know why they put gems either

[@evans8256]

Title : The Owl House (Hooty) Action : Eda Main character : Luz Romance : Lumity Ohh Man, The Owl House is so Weird

[@minty4345]

What if Eda's curse was lifted, imagine how strong she would be.

[@kruss3218]

Minty one spell would be instant death

[@wolfstormwizard424]

Strong as a titan

[@kruss3218]

Wolf Storm Wizard stronger

[@Bostonterrierslol]

I’d be interested alone just to see her in her prime again

[@c9799-r1u]

Minty well her voice is going to be in young blood old souls so she’s at least going to be temporarily normal

[@fierygamer582]

The best part of this how is Hooty beating up Lillith and her army like they were nothing. Go Hooty!

[@jcam5]

MusicLover435 He may be annoying and a bit much, but Eda resides in Hooty for a reason.

[@fierygamer582]

Truth. I thought he was very annoying at first and a stupid character but overall, he's pretty funny and I can't wait to see what happens next in this show.

[@BirbsBeLikeOvO]

I liked that he was pretending to have a tea party with them lol.

[@sloan14crazylife52]

Hooty earned so much respect in this episode I didn’t know how powerful he was until now

[@heyitsdusk]

I used to not like Hooty but after this I just have to respect him

[@septemberjordan9026]

Did anyone else see that Belos has the same eyes as an abomination

[@RANGELMAYELA]

I did☺

[@rainbowpixelboy8321]

Foreshadowing

[@alexturnbull1301]

Does he?

[@tahraethestoryteller6079]

😱

[@AzureStriker-om2jl]

I did as well.

[@KingMariiii]

Theory: The way that Lilith said she belonged with her family at emperor's coven brought up a lot of ideas. The main one is that Emperor Bellos could be related to her someway or another. Another possibility is that he wanted Eda's power for a master plan. Which might be a reason for why Lilith cursed her. Forced by her father to curse Eda, for a certain reason. Maybe her father, or maybe a long lost brother she never talked about. Her sister may know somewhat of Bellos's plan, so Lilith needs her sister for the plan, which could be why she gave her chances to join on her own because she still cares for her sister.

[@EJthe24TH]

Hmm. That's a good theory

[@heyelectricjupiter7330]

I remember Lillith said "Shes with her Family now" which made me think something similar like this because she could have said something different.

[@catgames703]

I think Bellos may be their father Or that Bellos is actually the Titan's abomination with the Titan's mind.

[@James.D.B.]

Episode 19 spoilers: Lilith cursed Eda to win a witch's duel to get into the Emperor's Coven, though it is possible the Belos is related to the Clawthornes, or maybe the Blights

[@byronrush9802]

MADISON BARRETT list

[@AppleSaurus01]

Everyone is forgetting the actual big reveal: LILLITH WEARS CONTACTS?!?

[@HelloGG678]

AND DYED HER HAIR?

[@jahoytodiesforahoy4615]

If you look at the grugby photo Lilith has the same colour eyes, its just her hair that has such a drastic change

[@lavi_ndr]

Lilith wears contacts coz when she was little she wears glasses, now it's no more

[@jahoytodiesforahoy4615]

@@lavi_ndr oooh I see what you mean, sorry I was thinking coloured contacts. You're totally right

[@kinglattice705]

@@HelloGG678 I don't think her hair is dyed. Eda is an howl lady thus grey hair. Lilith's animal is a crow thus black hair

[@asrikian1701]

Hooty is literally an annoying Spinel. If he can beat Lilith and some of the emperor's coven, and Amity beat him up an episode ago, then does that mean that Amity is stronger than Lilith? (Insert Illuminati trap music) The Amity Lilith thing is obviously a joke.

[@jamaelwilliams8677]

Probably cuz he wasn't fighting back

[@WorKSimi]

Hooty didn’t really try to attack Amity. He probably only really goes after people trying to raid the owl house

[@jamaelwilliams8677]

@@WorKSimi that's exactly what he does

[@figs-oliomedley]

implying Spinel isn't annoying in her own way

[@iffyy5934]

??

[@cringe_memes]

I actually thought it was lillith once as we saw her as a child the episode before Edit: thank you for all the likes and it was the glasses that lillith had that made me think this.

[@tatyannalollies]

Same! It was her glasses that set it off for me

[@keithcollins9274]

M hm

[@matthausrochleder2437]

Yeah I kind felt like that

[@allstrange7495]

good call!

[@davi4306]

The glasses give it away, but before we knew about lillith's old appearance I was sure it had something to do with willow Edit: I also need to say that: I literally had to look up on the series wiki to realize that lillith was the girl in the grudbie picture. Maybe I got a little distracted, but I thought she was only pointing out that Eda was beign delusional and not actually referring that SHE was the captain of team, mainly because the drastic lack of resemblance between her past and new self. Since that episode with Eda's school reports in the ending credits, my mind had establish that lillith was the younger sister to Eda, so this reveal was quite a shock. From lillith's first appearance on the show and a clear rivalry between the sisters, it was easy to put her as one of the biggest suspects even because she was being painted like a villain, I thought the answer couldn't be that obvious and the episodes after that showed us that she wanted to cure her sister, somehow I freed her from guilty for that. Don't know how I feel about this revelation yet, but I was hoping it to be something much bigger.

[@LifeOfBrother5000]

When eda is talking about the good times with luz, her gem is slightly black. But when she looks at the picture, her gem is completely normal.

[@luizabernardi6660]

that reminds me of when she was transformed and king's rage attack made her turn back to normal. her emotions have a huge influence in if shes transformed or not

[@pinkyylemon]

yeah, I don't think it could be a mistake it has to be intentional because she was in the same position a few seconds ago, the only thing that changed was her face so I'm sure it'll be an intentional plot point

[@thegreendorito9095]

Eda's curse can be healed by good vibes.

[@LifeOfBrother5000]

@@pinkyylemon Yeah thats what I was thinking too.

[@thedorkknight9684]

HOLD EVERYTHING!!!! I FIGURED OUT THE MEANING OF THE SECRET MESSAGE!!! For those who don't know, the first letter of every episode spells out "A Witch will lose a true Way." This has been puzzling everyone for quite some time, trying to figure out who it's aimed at, and what it means. The popular theories are that it's aimed at Luz or Eda. But it hit me a few minutes ago: it's not about either of them. It's about Lilith!!!!! Before you start yelling at me, or this comment is lost to time, let me explain. Lilith and Eda were really close at first, as evidenced by Eda's hexide file. But, after Lilith joined the coven and Eda rebelled, Lilith cursed Eda, apparently at the orders of Bellows. As Eda put it, Lilith is The Emperor's lap dog. She's willing to serve the emperor, no matter the cost. I.E, She lost her true way, trading her freedom for servitude. Lilith is the one the message is aimed at, and always was. Edit: wow, i didn't think anyone would notice this comment. Thanks for the likes! Just thought I'd share my observation. I was wrong about Lilith cursing Eda because she was ordered to, though. Shame on you Lilith!!

[@blob.e9240]

Huh never thought about that, thanks!

[@Raima_Is_Lovely]

YOU WERE RIGHT!!!

[@SugarBeeUwU]

I'm sure it said she join the coven after they battled aka she cursed before that. Its not that complicated she did what she knew would let her win only thinking it would last a day but still she did it herself.

[@Toaster518]

Nice number of likes there would be a shame if I added a like B))))

[@sunnoinajar]

.0.

[@sarafontanini7051]

Her'es the thing though: people don't hate lilith JUST because of the curse deal we hate her because she tried to MURDER LUZ and there was no bullshit about her not REALLY trying to hurt her and it was just a trick. No, she went out of her way to purposely put luz's life in danger SOLEY to make her sister vulnerable and that is INEXCUSEABLE. LILITH. TRIED. TO MURDER. A. CHILD. AND ISN'T EVEN SORRY ABOUT IT.

[@sillygabbs]

Thank you, someone finally gets me.

[@A._.MurderOfCrows]

Lilith wasn’t trying to kill Luz she was trying to get Eda to save Luz so Eda would use up her magic so Lilith could capture her

[@sarafontanini7051]

@@A._.MurderOfCrows oh yes, because of course that makes it all okay! It's not like she didn't have a plan for if Eda didn't try to save luz, or even failed, right? Or that she even cared at all about Luz's safety in the first place...

[@lynnemullins5338]

Somone finally said it as much as I like lilith no one hurts eda NO ONE

[@A._.MurderOfCrows]

@@sarafontanini7051 she could've easily stepped in if she thought Luz was in actual danger She very clearly had no intent on ever putting Luz in harms way

[@matthewmorrissey481]

I believe Owl House, when all is said in done, will be on par with, if not better than, Gravity Falls. Not saying GF is bad by any means, far from it. I’m just saying that I personally believe that OH can go the distance.

[@ilovemusic3584]

I haven't actually seen many comparisons between the two

[@matthewmorrissey481]

Coralie and Yann-Emilie Verdier I’m talking in terms of quality in animation and storytelling. GF is usually regarded as top tier in both. If you want correlations, Dana worked on Gravity Falls, her life partner Alex Hirsch created it and voices king, and Eda’s general description is a match for Grunkle Stan’s Ex Wife.

[@AeonKnigh432]

@@matthewmorrissey481 The Eda one is likely a coincidence, but beyond that yeah.

[@matthewmorrissey481]

King Lewis I’ll give you that it might be, but I suggest watching the theory video on the subject by the roundtable. At the very least, Eda’s appearance was based off of the description.

[@ilovemusic3584]

@@matthewmorrissey481 Thanks now I get it

[@N_Phi6]

Is no one else curious about the differently masked person standing next to the emperor while he is talking to Lilith

[@Funnyshirtisfunny]

i was thinking that too, no one says anything, but to me it seems like an armor set on a stand or something. Also Looks owl themed so maybe its for eda, remember liliths mask thats what it looks like to me.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

I'm curious. Looks like I'm not alone in "keeping an eye out" on that "overseer" figure.

[@pepperspray7177]

Yeah I noticed that too i thought maybe that character is something alike to Kikimora like another assistant to emperor Belos

[@karo3156]

Prob his like higher guards that protect him

[@Raima_Is_Lovely]

100th like

[@davidsantana5616]

Roundtable: admit it we’ve watched this episode for like 5 times ..... I’ve watched it 20

[@AJ_Obas]

It pains me to admit this but I only watched it 2 times

[@zulanova1209]

But did you actually tho

[@MacrWest]

no. But it was a great episode.

[@rainbowpixelboy8321]

Those are amateur numbers

[@Detective_Grav]

I watched it like 7 or 8 times

[@statesofgracie]

the lilith and eda fight is one of the most beautifully animated scenes I’ve ever seen. I genuinely shed a tear at how stunning it was and then proceeded to fully sob at the end because of eda

[@melonlord2851]

I just realized this... We can technically just call the show "Hooty".

[@AeonKnigh432]

Lol

[@echxingmelody]

Oh god you're right.

[@kyelwastaken]

LOL

[@justcallmedaddy6977]

i hate you

[@kyelwastaken]

@@justcallmedaddy6977 who?

[@septemberjordan9026]

I feel as though that Luz is gonna turn into a pro when she fights Lilith

[@c9799-r1u]

September Jordan by the end of this episode I think there will be a bounty on luz head even higher than edas.

[@AeonKnigh432]

@@c9799-r1u Likely not as high, but maybe getting her first bounty. Like in One Piece it's considered symbolic when a pirate gets a bounty.

[@NuggetOG]

@@c9799-r1u way lower. remember, she is nowwhere near the levels of power that eda has and i highly doubt that she can defeat lilith. she will probaly manage to escape from her.

[@hiimgeorge6688]

I'm hoping she will realize there are consequences to her actions no matter how good or bad

[@mendosaz1506]

WeReWoLf LuZ

[@matthewflugstad8023]

i actually think that the guards are not living creatures but more like living suits of armor. it plays into Belos controlling all of them and the bit where Hooty takes over ones body and dosn't kill or throw out the guy inside. or maybe its like in fullmetal alchemist with Alphonse, Barry the butcher, and the slicer brothers where there souls who posses the armor

[@MarkoArillius]

Hooty didn't take over his body, he just wore the guys hood.

[@KingMariiii]

@@Mackn0 well its just a theory. And it is possible for them to do something like that, because in many cartoon shows there are bigger plots and mysteries, than the one's we know.

[@matthewflugstad8023]

@@MarkoArillius and yet I saw the arms moving plus there was no change in the clothing to indicate the cou was pushed in. Show me one of these guys without there mash and I'll yield

[@matthewflugstad8023]

@@KingMariiii I know this is just mine and for all I know it could be wrong but I'm hold omg out

[@GelssPen]

Yeah, when hooty pass in guards head that confused me

[@mariannes1457]

Lillith: *reveals she was the one that cursed Eda* Me: 👁👄👁 SAY SIKE!!!

[@blah7983]

Why was Dana acting like Grom was the episode we couldn’t handle.

[@haztac5973]

Agony of a witch was the episode we couldn’t handle. I cried several times during it, I know others did as well

[@pd2580]

Well you aren’t a Lumity stan are you

[@popcultureclips182]

pd2580 does he have to be ?

[@pd2580]

@@popcultureclips182 i didn’t say he did just stating an assumption

[@blah7983]

@@pd2580 I ship it but I’m not gonna freak out over it just because its gay and I don’t freak out over romantic relationship stuff in general, more of a “awww that’s cute” type of thing. Also not a huge fan of enemys to lovers. Agony of a witch was an emotional roller coaster whereas Grom was just sweet I guess. Also I’m a female like the majority of the fandom lol

[@rolay7730]

I noticed something interesting, in episode two when Luz was being tricked into a fake adventure she had a staff, a sword, and a cape. Now Luz has a magic cape. She has Eda's staff base without a palisman, and we have seen her use rune magic on physical weapons. After rewatching the episode, she also got a bracelet and a green-haired love interest with an angsty backstory...ok, so we have one of those so far. WAIT In the episode, the love interest was a prince, and Amity's family are upper-class witches with green hair. The emperor has glowing green eyes and puts green liquid into his eyes to recharge himself, so green might be the color of concentrated magic? Not only that, but out of everyone, Amity was picked as the apprentice to the Emporer's coven's leader. Is Amity's family connected to the emperor in some way?

[@iremyaman8665]

The animation when eda first showed up to fight was amazing tho

[@haztac5973]

Ikr, it was like an anime fight. It was *incredible*

[@solarz.z]

god this episode was such a masterpiece

[@solarz.z]

@Poppy Lennox i- what? sorry?

[@Mercymae326]

@@solarz.z she means your logan sanders pfp

[@solarz.z]

@@Mercymae326 aha makes sense, sorry

[@Detective_Grav]

Ikr, it was such a well done episode

[@ItsCairoHere]

tru

[@IsaSpSp]

Honestly I've been connecting Lilith's caracter hate with something akin to what a kid might've felt towards Scar from "The Lion King", like as a kid, I abslutely hated Scar, he was the villan after all, but people LIKE him, quite a lot in fact. It's not rare to see people saying Scar is their favourite character (overall or from TLK). Obviously Scar and Lilith are quite different. Scar activelly killed Mufasa with full intent of him not coming back (same for Simba, but in a little less direct way), and although a curse isn't good at all, Eda isn't dead, and Lilith clearly shows that she intended on reversing the curse (though I suspect she wanted it to be reversed sooner, but Eda managed to avoid Lilith for years, (not wanting to join a coven) postponing the curse's reversal), giving her still, a way into redemption. . . I am very much into the "damn you Lilith" mind set but it is a story and she is playing her role in it, and I'm loving it! And I'd go as far as to say I think it would be more interesting is Lilith DID become irredimable, just because when the hate storm calms down, that might be something most people expect. I reaaly am hoping she becomes either a character people "whole heartedly love" or "love to hate".

[@00Alyx]

Is there a chance that Belos is actually, or used to be, that titan? and that he doesn't leave or stray very far because it could kill him? Also, is it possible that the titan heart simply doesn't have a bile sac because its heart and bile are/were one and the same? Edit: ive also noticed that the titans skull has a vague horn shape that might line up with the horns on belos' mask.

[@moniquejaber4700]

Yooooooo that would be such a plot twist, a once powerful Titian, becomes weak and trying to be powerful again, that would fit so well in the plot

[@statesofgracie]

we all know the episode titles spell out “A Witch Loses A True Way” and I believe that witch is Lilith. she lost her way when she gave in to cursing Eda and devoting herself to the emperor and his coven. or when the emperor and his coven (hopefully) get taken down next episode Lilith will then be lost without them. if they do get taken down maybe Lilith could even be so mad about it after devoting her whole life to it that she vows revenge on Eda/Luz, losing her way in that before she was working against Eda for what she thought was right and with her own “good” intention and now her reasoning (“way”) has been tainted

[@LokiStarOmen]

My theory was that Belose is actally feeding from the Titans magic but has drained so much of it that the Boiling Isles itself is dying. But that wouldn't really explain Belose's apparent poor health unless he's dying too because of the lack of magic

[@hannahnightshadewolf9219]

Belose might be using magic to keep himself alive or belose himself might have a curse. and if he's using magic to keep himself alive and the island is dying and there is no more magic that would explain it

[@moonlitmortician6694]

Maybe instead of a heart, the titan just has a bile sack and instead of blood, it just has magic bile. It would kinda fit if it's supposed to be a sort of God.

[@queenglory9352]

And the magic bike looks like water which is where witches get water from.

[@XoRandomGuyoX]

That would be an interesting take. If, after living on the Isle for so long, witches each got a small piece of the Titan's magic.

[@AeonKnigh432]

I'm assuming this is what it is

[@allstrange7495]

thats such a cool idea

[@TheBigE9999]

Here's something i thought of: none of the coven except for lillith and maybe some others are actually people. My main reasoning is that hooty was able to poke right through a guard, plus it would maybe explain his omnipotence. He sees through his puppets all over the place

[@tayetherat1999]

Notice how EVERY character we know for sure was ginger dyed their hair? Also, so females side/background characters has it either? I'm convinced that some oracle said that a red haired witch will defeat belos/destroy the boiling isles. For all we know, it could be eda, lilith or amity! I'm also pretty sure the moment she changed her hair coincide with the moment eda and lilith changed theirs

[@katrose5179]

Amity isn’t ginger. She’s a brunette.

[@tayetherat1999]

@@katrose5179my bad dawg

[@N0b0dy1.0]

It could be that bellows isn't actually speaking for the Titan, he might be forcefully controlling what little remains of the Titan that haven't yet decomposed. And he may also be lying about the Titan being conscious.

[@moltendiamonds1567]

Yes

[@byronrush9802]

I kind of always thought that as well as the titan is basically dead and what little is left he’s using it as a power source and to rule the kingdom

[@Luvistarx]

Maybe he thinks he is or someone is pretending to be the titan

[@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168]

Imma keep saying this till the next show appears If uncle iroh was there things would be better

[@alexturnbull1301]

You could literally say that about anything

[@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168]

@@alexturnbull1301 I miss uncle iroh

[@alexturnbull1301]

lord topaz if uncle Iroh was here life would be better

[@AeonKnigh432]

What does that have to do with anything?

[@alexturnbull1301]

King Lewis do you know what would make your comment better?

[@lailarainslays]

I was literally waiting for him to do a breakdown of this🤩

[@louruitatsu7633]

Okay, good im not the only one!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 it waa so freaking amazing!!!

[@makinthebacon7200]

Bro saaaammme

[@samx36]

SAME!!!!!!

[@smallgoblin192]

omg same i have been waiting ever since it aired

[@EchoWhiteG]

Same

[@bgm9616]

What if Bellos is a necromancer. I mean he uses the magic from a "dead" tailsman the is using a dead Titan, and the ominous head piece similar to a face mask used to honor the dead for many different cultures. Classic necromancer guys just saying. Also he makes the covens and shockingly no necromancy coven all just basic magics that can be controlled leaving advanced magics to him self

[@NuggetOG]

what if necromancy is one of those "wild magic". it makes sense that he doesnt want anyone to have powers that could equal his own

[@melonsaway3929]

This is interesting except that the emperor's coven is said to be able to use all types of magic, and the closest I can think of to on screen necromancy is Edas bring ingredients to life juice. But that would still be cool!

[@NuggetOG]

@@melonsaway3929 they are allowed to use all types of magic. but i think they are only allowed to use magic that is under a coven. if its magic that isnt under any coven, than its still not allowed

[@melonsaway3929]

Interesting! And maybe anyone with enough necromantic ability, you too can communicate with the dead. And by that I mean communicate with the dead *Titan* (I know it might not be "dead" but still). Which would mean the Titan could tell you that Belos made up the "doing magic the 'proper' way" bs and that is a threat to his reign

[@NuggetOG]

@@melonsaway3929 ofcourse its bs. look at eda, is she some devil loving witch? no she just is a witch. anyone who gets any sort of influence and power will either be immediatly be under his control or has their magic taken away/killed

[@kyrizzi]

Imagine if when Luz confronts Lilith shes like that one meme of the kid saying I have the power of God and anime on my side

[@xsovereign6]

LMAO what’s funnier is luz canonically watches anime so i feel like she would say something like that😭

[@celinew702]

23:13 In "Understanding Willow", I turned up the volume when Gus started to talk to Hottie; and Hottie said he was "created" one night in the middle of a (what I could hear) a red storm. 🦉

[@zane_afton_5602]

... could the red storm have been blood

[@davidmckenzie9086]

I'm sorry he was created in a what

[@martini9392]

Ok, so on a side note here. I LOVE the emperor’s voice and the way he speaks, it’s just perfect.

[@yes83883]

that episode was so good-

[@septemberjordan9026]

Good doesn't begin to describe the awesomeness of this episode

[@Anarchaicego]

It was amazing

[@Mercymae326]

haha it ripped out my heart

[@Sasu123456789x1]

Yup!!

[@ThorG-mg2yx]

Dude I really think we have to Talk About what Omnipotence Means, Omnipotence is a State of being where you have no limitations, you are an all-powerful un-defeatable being whose power cannot be limited. You cannot BECOME omnipotent, if others can challenges you you are not omnipotent, if it is even theoretically possible for you to fail you are not omnipotent. An Omnipotent being could make a boulder so large not even they could lift it, and then Lift it ANYWAY and it would still make sense because they are omnipotent, they would be everywhere and no where, all knowing and completely all powerful. Omnipotence cannot even accurately Exist in fiction, as the fact they can't effect the real world is still a limitation that would disprove it. I feel i had to explain this because you called Belos Omnipotent a few times, and I've heard you say it about other characters like Sunstone before just cause she has 4th wall awareness so I want to prevent the word from losing all meaning

[@samanthajohnson56]

Yeah the word he's looking for is Omniscient( All or most knowing) Or probably PRescient (Being able to know all things in a general area

[@ThorG-mg2yx]

@@samanthajohnson56 Yeah, but even if everything he thinks Belos is doing is true, seeing through the eyes and ears of every being in the boiling isles, that still wouldn't be even close to Omniscent, like if he was Omniscent he wouldnt need to, hed know everything that happens past future and present and literally everything else. The thing about Omni-states of being is you can't be Somewhat Omniscent, you either are or your not

[@samanthajohnson56]

@@ThorG-mg2yx its true o thi b k he means prescient honestly

[@nunalunaberey_]

Edward Kelly Whenever I think of omnipotent I think of Q from Star Trek. I think he’s a good example to explain omnipotent characters. Also he’s just funny lol 🖖

[@AeonKnigh432]

To sum it up: he is not omnipotent, as he can be defeated, and he isn't omniscient, as he needs others to find stuff out. He just big smart boi

[@jassybanuelos326]

Sardonyx arc aka “Everybody hates Pearl arc” Star Vs. Season 4 finale aka “Moon is a traitor/worst queen” Owl House aka “Lilith going down” Wow so much hate

[@ZoeyRoseArt1]

Meh. Sometimes it’s fun to rage! We all gotta let it out at some point :)

[@lokiwarriorcat6167]

I know!! I don't hate Lilith but I don't love her. Kinda sad to see such a complex character like her getting so much hate and no chances :/

[@James.D.B.]

Thankfully episode 19 changed that

[@ashketchup6514]

You forgot whisper being a demon

[@thesarcasticdruid2702]

Pearl was selfish Moon was technically a traitor so eh And Lilith kinda deserves the shit coming to her... I do agree with you lots of hate

[@LycanMOON]

I feel like the stained glass could be kiki’s hand.since she’s his right hand mand,maybe keeping his power in check?

[@cannedsworldofwonders1384]

not to mention kiki's hair is a similar looking hand.

[@LycanMOON]

ratSEQUENCE.beetroot222 yea that’s what I was referring to.i should of made it more clearer ^^u

[@sensiblecryptid4406]

I really hope we get to see more of Kikimora in future episodes

[@myles3856]

Yup

[@MemyselfandIliketobealone]

He totally rips out the witches heart and eats it like an apple

[@jazz-cat00]

When he rips a witch's heart out, have him eat it like an Apple afterwards; that way it'll make him look even more like an Asshole *ding*

[@setosw5210]

I can imagine Minecraft eating noises

[@jackspicer5261]

I thought that too but it wasn’t it’s the top part of a witch/wizard staff (forgot the name)

[@jazz-cat00]

@@jackspicer5261 *Palisman

[@madkirk7431]

There's two HUGE reveals from 2 HUGE shows: rose is pink, and lilith cursed eda. And two Huge reasons to hate characters: pinks abandoned spinel, and lilith cursed eda. And the owl house gives me SERIOUS SU vibes.

[@perro692]

I think people are assuming a lot about Belos' abilities, like, when i saw the thing with te hat my first thought was "oh it must be some sort of magic security system that alerts him if a relic is taken" seeing as there was zero security of any other kind around, no "he must literally be omniscient" seeing as nothing else alludes to that

[@o0OMaku]

I wanted to cry when we lost Eda, eh who cares, everyone cried before I wanted to, I mean Eda was one of the best characters in Disney

[@alexpfeiffey924]

I was crying almost the entire second half of the episode

[@Dinomatrix21]

I feel like the Titan's magic IS wild magic. Like, it is wild magic. Belos probably took it down and uses it's power to do what he wants, but he doesn't have an actual connection with or speak with it.

[@samurexatlas7373]

Additionally to the Oracle sphere, twin headed snake, 2 covens.

[@settheshallow8913]

it's just called "omnipresence" not "omnipotent presence"

[@sabercat5490]

Tbh they are the same thing.

[@settheshallow8913]

@@sabercat5490 not really. Omnipotence does not require omnipresence, and saying "omnipotent presence" implies belos has at least nigh-omnipotence

[@sabercat5490]

@@settheshallow8913 i said what i said becuase ominipresense is coined from omnipotent presense.

[@settheshallow8913]

@@sabercat5490 maybe etemologically, but this does not mean that they are the same thing

[@katrose5179]

@@sabercat5490 that’s not true. Omni just means all. Omnipresent means all present. Omnipotent means all powerful.

[@I_takami]

13:40 Vox: A LIGHT GLYPH Is anyone gonna tell him that's a fire glyph 😅

[@AkaSwvy]

Owl House and Infinity Train:**Get Serious** Amphibia hopefully:My turn

[@geheimest4781]

And it was a god turn.

[@AkaSwvy]

@@geheimest4781 sure was

[@thatcarnivoreteacher7395]

@@AkaSwvy me still waiting for s2 to come on Disney+ :(

[@ideamediaanalysis8737]

What about Gravity Falls Season 2 mid-season finale “Not What He Seems”? That episode was epic.

[@synchrolord]

You can't compare things to not what he seems, that's just straight up not fair

[@ideamediaanalysis8737]

synchro lord You make a good point however, I didn’t meant it as a something mean, I was just curious on how This episode could be compared to that episode.

[@NuggetOG]

@@ideamediaanalysis8737 animation in this one is better, plot reveals is won by a big margin in not what he seems

[@ideamediaanalysis8737]

NuggetOG that’s true. The animation is this episode of The Owl House is really good while the plot twist in Gravity Falls is the reason why Not What He Seems in so memorable.

[@dark_skyblue]

Here’s a Few wild Ideas: 1. What if Lilith tried to put a curse on Luz like she did Eda. But Luz uses the cloak to repel it. So Lilith ends up getting hit with her own curse. Then she’d get a Taste of her own medicine (or magic) 2. What if the Titan used some magic before he fully died to make an abomination (Aka Belos) and is now using the abomination as a body. That or the titan is just controlling Belos to be a puppet. They both had glowing green eyes if you caught it through the video. At 4:06-4:10 Anyway these were just a few of the ideas the came into my head from this episode and video! Share some of your ideas/added info if you’d want to talk about it!

[@nehaali5499]

I like the idea of the Titan making an abomination! And maybe the reason why Bellos sits underneath that "heart" thingy is because that's his connection to the Titan?

[@sonnyrogero4737]

And how did the cloak did not repel Belos' magic? Eda said that the yarn thingy deflects any magic, Belos was behind Luz so the magic would've been repelled by her cloak, so that's not pure magic Belos is using, my prediction is that the magic is technology, not from the heart (or something)

[@moonsil362]

I started watching just before “enchanting grom fright” came out and I love the show so much I’ve already rewatched the show a good 6 times 😂

[@sillycookie]

The big eye glass window on the Owl House could be like the Evil Eye. It repels any bad energy from Belos.

[@jasonpodell9680]

Random thought related to Dana Terrace’s character in this: I think it’s very possible that they’re playing around with the “The Cloud Cuckoolander was right” trope with what she says

[@Detective_Grav]

This epsiode was great and sad at the Same time now I'm sitting here rewatching the promo for Young Blood, Old Souls and reading theorys, listening to Little Miss Perfect on loop and I'm getting the tissues ready

[@pickledpasta1677]

STRAIGHT HAIR

[@Detective_Grav]

@@pickledpasta1677 STRAIGHT A's

[@pickledpasta1677]

STRAIGHT FORWARD

[@Detective_Grav]

STRIAGHT PATH I DON'T CUT CORNERS

[@pickledpasta1677]

I MAKE A POINT TO BE ON TIME

[@-mokerly-5984]

She-Ra's final season spoilers: That theory abt the guards is literally Horde Prime though.

[@ilovemusic3584]

Lol

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Damn clones.

[@greatvalue_ethelcain]

Lmao that’s what I kept thinking abt

[@ashketchup6514]

Shera is just like the owl house

[@imnotasian4809]

A WITCH LOSES A TRUE WAY the first letter of each episode name

[@jooturururu3757]

Simple theory: Emperor Belos killed the great demon, supposedly King, and Belos inherited the magic right after. Leaving King an adorable little demon The end, not

[@DepartamentoDePantalones]

Ok but even with the sad ending, I think we can all agree that seeing Eda going FREAKING MAD LAD on Lillyth was SO COOL!!!

[@XoRandomGuyoX]

22:27 When it comes to the theory that Belos has been watching from the beginning, I think it's that weird bird creature with a human face. It was present when Eda arrived with Luz in the first episode and was present again in the audience for the Emperor's Coven panel in Covention. And then, next to Belos is a mysterious 'right hand' individual with a golden mask that looks a bit like a species of owl. That person might be the one which controls the surveillance bird. That would also explain the fake letters to Camila, if a third party knew when she arrived.

[@MoiraMcGill]

Remember that Lilith's chest gem is a diamond shape just like the shape on the door. The door also has circles which could be said is similar the Eda's chest gem

[@jpeg..]

K so when he said the emperor can't read the minds of anyone in the house why does the glass look like Bill's eye

[@Habizuh_Studios]

I ALWAYS got so emotional when king popped out of the cake. LIKE COULDN'T THEY HAVE A HAPPY MOMENT BEFORE ALL THIS LORE DROP?!?!?!?!?! WAAAAAHHHH

[@anilmehta4714]

7:24 Hooty literally went through where one of the guards' head was supposed to be, it looks like they're just puppets made by Belos

[@FilmFinatic]

I think eda will lose her memories during her “healing”

[@Onyx_8731]

NOOOOOOO

[@michaelandreipalon359]

A sacrifice we might be willing to make. Do it.

[@myles3856]

Ok

[@tatianaparker7685]

I just wanna Roundtable w/SvTFOE: Guesses the entire episode and the plots devices used for the next episode with only a title and trailer in mind Roundtable w/ Owl House: [is just baby film theory] I get Owl House is a more complex show than Svtfoe but this was hilarious

[@rodp8984]

This show is going to top any show Disney has ever made. WATCH

[@kimmurphy1646]

This was easily the best episode so far, I first saw this episode when it first aired on Disney Channel and I teared up during the scene where Eda transformed. Can't wait for next week.

[@rodp8984]

Lately this show has been putting out banger after banger after BANGER of episodes if they keep this up I have no doubt this show will become a masterpiece classic

[@janhedani1759]

Theory: There are different types of magic bile. Emperor Belos probably took plant bile in this episode, making his eyes green. In the promo, he probably took illusion bile, making his eyes blue. He probably already has near omnipotence but if he takes a certain bile he probably becomes totally godlike also explaining how he manifested behind Luz without flashy teleportation. This might also explain why Willow isn’t that good at most magic but is amazing at plant magic. Emperor Belos and Eda (maybe Lilith) probably have some kind of all powerful bile. This may also explain why Emperor Belos demands one track, one coven. Not only to control all magic but to enhance his servants abilities, if they get to that point. If this is stolen I was not aware.

[@harnanmylvaganam6311]

Belos knowing everything means that he’s omniscient, not omnipotent (which means all powerful)

[@santosic]

My thoughts on this episode: Agony. My feelings in a nutshell after watching it.

[@VoidSpirals]

Luz: Spells may be dangerous... Luz: *pulls out gun* Luz: But this works too.

[@sonnyrogero4737]

Luz: **pulls out a fricking machine gun**

[@kagenoo1084]

13:41 that was a fire gliph

[@cbme1962]

When l Luz is fighting lilith she is wearing edas Cape that she made for luz

[@yeetwarriorcattt6133]

Lilith: lol you were so ez to curse Me: Prepare my guns we’re going on a witch hunt

[@Tired_Nerd2006]

There is defenently something more with lilith curising eda cuz if she cursed her on own free will why would she want to heal her

[@piou7181]

it won't make me hate her less

[@laylaellis590]

Because she probably feels sorry about it cuz as you can see I think Lilith did it out of anger because lillith said Eda thought she was always better than her and she hated that and then when she finally did it she probably thought she did something just horrible and that's why she joined the emperor's coven so she could remove the curse make everything right again and her and Eda could be a family and they could be sister's again

[@Kit-uj3mw]

As a way to blackmail her into joining the emperor's coven as she probably already knew Eda wouldn't.

[@NuggetOG]

@@laylaellis590 i really doubt she purely did it out of jealousy. its like putting a bomb into someone out of jealousy of their power and then saying oh i could save you, only if you do something i say. but i really can regret it and put off the bomb at any time. i doubt that lilith could actually get rid of the curse by herself

[@pepperspray7177]

@@piou7181 why tho?

[@gumball9849]

So I just finished watching The Emperor’s New Groove. How meta that Eda’s situation is similar to Kuzco’s. The only difference: Kuzco was a talking llama while Eda is just a big cool owl monster. But I wonder, if the Emperor, like Yzma, had a “secret lab.” Maybe a similar solution will come. Oh and his right hand is like Kronk. Calling it now lol.

[@zenebean]

Eda broke my heart with her speech, it was so clear she believes these are her last words. I can't wait to find out the significance between her powers and the Owl House itself. I'm hoping for an episode looking back on how Eda ended up there

[@tmrbayne9543]

Hey what if, the Blight's are s new family line appoint by the emperor after the fall of the Clawthorne family, making the Blight manor the old Clawthorne manor

[@nawfal3928]

The * heart * isn’t big enough to be a heart or beil because an entire city is as big as the Titan’s knee so a heart as big as a throne can’t be it Maybe because Belos ( who I think is eda’s dad ) was too busy to look after the sisters so he left them with the most respected family he knew . The Blights so that’s why eda and Lilith lived in blight manor

[@AeonKnigh432]

I mean, it's possible the titan just has a small heart

[@NuggetOG]

i think the heart thing is just artistic choice. nothing more and nothing less

[@nawfal3928]

Why Lilith maybe but I think we’ll find out next season

[@prah_da_g]

Now while I'm %100 certain that Lilith cursing Eda was a combination of jealousy, foolish youth, and definitely some other unknown factors, I don't believe that Lilith was solely looking out for Eda in this episode. This is because we learned that Emperor Belos is a very selfish, severe, and cruel individual who literally said if Lilith didn't capture Eda by twilight, he was not only going to humiliate her in front of all if the Emperor's coven (and possibly in front of the general public), but that he was essentially going to kill her. Also, Lilith hasn't shown much care towards Luz for the entire series, so I'm pretty sure she would kill Luz without blinking. I mean, think about how many "rogue" witches the Emperor's coven has forcefully branded, imprisoned, or worse (and seeing how Lilith is the head of the Emperor's coven she is indisputably complicit in any cruelties the coven commits).

[@randomcatmeow1394]

I realised now that whenever Lilith had offered to help Eda cure the curse in the previous eps, it wasnt out of sympathy, it was out of guilt

[@TodosLocosOfficial]

I'm REALLY interested to see how the Emperors Coven reacts to Hexside allowing multiple tracks. It got resolved a bit too easily, so I think it'll come into play at some point. Clearly the principal is trying to cover it up

[@alphabettical1]

Lilith's brooch also is a diamond. I'm wondering if they have more family in the coven, or if the Emperor is also in their family, whether they know it or not. Perhaps Amity's family raised them at the Emporer's behest. The Savage ages could have involved humans, or the non-bile version of witch magic. Lilith's hair change could be referencing conformity in general, or could be a result of the magical conformity. These are just a few things the episode made me consider, and I just wanted it put out there.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Great. If the Blights are stars, Lilith is diamonds, who's next?! The butterfly?

[@meowrasaur]

26:44 Kevin: "It's less about Lilith knowing better when cursing Eda and more about what she *thought* was going to happen. At least, when it comes to understanding her." After watching the Season 1 finale, this hit right on the mark. Such a great review & breakdown for "Agony of a Witch", Kevin!

[@haztac5973]

Am I the only one who actually cried when Eda said goodbye to Luz. I cried from then till the end. Also I feel bad for the animators who had to animate the fight between Eda and Lilith. It looked like an anime fight and was *beautiful*

[@reddawn8247]

FINALLY SOMEONE RECOGNIZED HOOTY’S GREATNESS. I loved him the second he was introduced.

[@afroampharos]

This episode was amazing!! Sadly this is gonna be one of the last episodes with Spencer Wan as the animation director, but BOY, if he didn't end on a high note! The shots he rough animated for the series have been a pleasure to watch and it was awesome seeing him bring the fight between Lilith and Eda to life like this! This episode has worked so wonderfully to bring together the events of everything prior to a pinnacle and I can't wait to see what happens next!