THE TRUTH ABOUT HUNTER AND EMPEROR BELOS REVEALED! Hollow Mind Breakdown! The Owl House Season 2

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[@possumqe9751]

ok

[@thelogicsonic5980]

2cbd

[@Algebruh6]

Nice

[@lockjaw7437]

The only question is how is he getting so many stone sleepers to create so many grim walkers

[@Coyoteprime]

The Roundtable you are right, this man is a monster, and worse yet he’s a witch hunter! Witches have their worst enemy as their emperor he’s a walk in sheep’s clothing!

[@tannerdodge6029]

If every copy of his brother eventually "betrayed" him, that just says to me that his brother was a good soul, and any copy of him will inherit that goodness

[@santosic]

And probably the love for "wild magic", too, as our current Hunter has expressed he's secretly interested in it and has been reading on the subject. That's probably also a leftover from the OG Hunter.

[@bobthebacon3163]

I'm pretty sure they're just genetic clones. An empty being until Belos teaches it it's purpose. It's just that it always gets curious and ends up dead.

[@anothercub6958]

I don't remember the grimwalkers needing a component from a parent being to mold itself from. I think Belos shaped them all himself to be like OG Hunter, and that every grimwalker's betrayal speaks more to Belos's actions being detestable to any and every concievable copy of OG Hunter, regardless of how he was raised.

[@static_irony]

@Just the Iguana Lady♓️ whoa, are you secretly Luz? That totally sounds like some stuff she would say

[@arshu_parshu1999]

@@anothercub6958grimwalker recipe needs bone from the ortet (og)

[@Jungoguy]

This episode explained so much about Belos. He's not just a fraud, he's a villain convinced that he's the good guy. That makes him even more dangerous than ever.

[@claireaquos6532]

Indeed

[@lordlapizul]

“I’m the good guy here!” “Yeah. A lot of bad guys say that.”

[@chriscortez2036]

Poem by me- “A tale of two brothers, they were thick as thieves, then came another, it cut them like a cleave, she showed them love and magic, at the cost of something tragic, where one saw beauty and beyond, a home he grew quite fond, the other saw only vice and mud, saw fit a betrayal of blood, haunted by hate, cursed by fate, he seeks to spread his spite, pact with a being of night, now forever alone, with only a slave born from bone.”

[@kaykay8855]

@@chriscortez2036 nice poem

[@AH-is5yg]

@@chriscortez2036 wow that is a good one.

[@nah9935]

Considering the ingredients needed for a grimwalker, Belos disgustingly recycled his brother’s bones into 18 clones (including current Hunter). There’s 206 bones in an adult body, so there’s atleast half a skeleton’s worth of material left. He might have thought it was the best way to keep his bro and not bury him in the witch/unholy lands (considering he’s a puritan from the witch-purging times)

[@Sasu123456789x1]

Omg that's fucked up

[@t_hrsdayy]

I like that

[@venti726]

That's mess up

[@Unison23]

I actually only see 8 on each side so 16 in total. Where’s the 17th one?

[@ronaldofarias1742]

@@Unison23 the 17th clone is current Hunter

[@katyd2400]

The way that Belos psychologically tortured Luz by making her say his name was such an intense scene, and pretty much solidified that there is no room for redemption

[@CEOofTired]

I think I'd actually be *PISSED* if Phillip was redeemed tbh...I think most of the fanbase would....I mean, fucking Warden Wrath deserves a better redemption arc than this monster of a leader -_-

[@leonishikino6873]

@@CEOofTired these lame ass writers gotta stop redeeming everyone, it's pointless. Not everyone needs a redemption, just give us a villain who is evil through and through.

[@ashebennett7726]

@@leonishikino6873 TY!!! I hated the Maleficent and Cruella movies. What doesn’t make sense is how they come up with a different villain to make Cruella and Maleficent “misunderstood”. So villains are redeemable except when they’re not? Anyway, it’s just as realistic to not redeem someone as it is to redeem them.

[@aaamazing9888]

@@ashebennett7726 nah maleficent gets a pass, I fucking loved her story arc in that movie 😭 it was just enough reasoning and redemption without changing her cold heart character trait from the og version.

[@leonishikino6873]

@@ashebennett7726 redeemed villains can be done well tho, just look at the evil Generals in Kamen Rider Drive. To the villain trio, humans were the enemy because they had been programmed to take in the bad emotions of humanity while their leader Heart had been the only one "born" with positive emotions and he had felt he was the good guy in this because he was looking out for his species who he considered family. Ofc on the other side of the villain chart you have Dr. Maki in Kamen Rider OOO who is fucking insane to the point of murdering his older sister and then the Greeeds that he had allied with in order to be reborn with the true power.

[@sofig1237]

I'm surprised you didn't comment on King learning Spanish. That and Hunter telling Flapjack he loves them were the two good things that happened in the whole episode

[@the_eerrielemental9866]

i thought that was so cute :>

[@loturzelrestaurant]

Belos Con-Artistry and all that really gave me Flashbacks to Atheist-Channels, specificaly Telltale and Genetically Modified. I mean, they're Cult-Experts, but that aint all they got.

[@backonja7255]

I like to imagine Amity and Luz are teaching King Spanish because he wants to surprise Camila when he eventually meets her. Either that or Amity and King are taking classes with Luz as their teacher, both of them wanting to win Luz's affection in classic "student rivalry" trope, but knowing Amity and her top student tendencies, it wouldn't surprise me If she knows the language fluently by now.

[@hisuianchar1548]

This basically confirmed that he most likely killed the Stone sleeper that Luz tamed, and proceeded to harvest it’s lungs. RIP stone sleeper, as now you rest as a soul, not a boulder Edit: wow I’ve never gotten this many likes 0.0

[@_marshP]

Rest as a necessary ingredient in a newly reformed hero

[@amethystsavage4018]

I don’t think Dell is the child of Philip’s brother and this mysterious witch. Dell’s wife, Gwendolyn, had said that her *great grandmother* told her about the human that entered the boiling isles; which would mean that Dell had to be at least two generations older than her if true. But I do think that that baby, if that mysterious witch was pregnant, was a Clawthorne

[@Angryginger2421]

Agreed

[@jaydenklaus]

I agree. His theory doesn't match up with the timeline but I do think that it's likely that Phillip's brother did pass on his knowledge and skills of wood carving to his family.

[@TiredFiver]

It's also been atleast 300 years since Philip showed up in the first place, so unless Dell is really old...

[@wispy-ispy]

do you mean Gwendolyn? That’s Dell’s wife’s name

[@curiosity_killed_the_batt]

i was thinking the same thing, the witch was probably a Clawthorne but unless Dell is secretly 400 years old he's not Philip's brother's kid

[@f1nger605]

Just realized that "Belos" sounds kind of like "bellows," which is a thing you use to stoke a fire. Fire being the iconic way of executing witches.

[@thefirepizza]

Fun fact: The town belos destroyed here (14:44) is the same ruins that luz, eda, amity, ed, and em visited in Adventures in the Elements

[@veronicapiccinini7956]

The Knee

[@eee-xd5bo]

OH MY GOD I NEVER REALIZED THAT???

[@aisheadspace9682]

Must be kind of traumatizing to learn the golden guards never made it past their teens, Belos claiming they all "betrayed" him. The kind of deaths they went through, probably with him having fun watching himself kill his brother over and over again. Also, little off topic but he *definitely* had fun, he named Hunter "Hunter" who takes the form of a witch.

[@mangareader7474]

Really but Darius said the golden guard was his mentor and

[@claireaquos6532]

Exept Hunter also claim to be the youngest golden guard. Philip saying "I hope he would last longer then the others" doesn't mean the others died in their teens! Thought their's a possibility that when making grimwalkers, you can choose their physical age instead of them automaticly being babies (This will be confirm once Belos makes a new one... if he succeed). It would fit with the fact that Hunter claimed in "Hunting Palismen" that Belos found him but unless the previous golden guard stole him as kid, he should have always been in the castle. This could be a fake memory to make him believed he had a childhood. This also means that Hunter is only physicly 16 but he's far younger then this.

[@Mediados]

I am sure he does not enjoy it. He said himself that he hates seeing the Grimwalker betray him every time.

[@BootybaHooty]

@@Mediados ... Man's literally stood there while his grimwalker was drowning in quicksand. That man has no remorse

[@NeutraljZone]

@@Mediados he had a huge ass smile on his face when he said that

[@silvercomics3517]

I definitely agree that OG Hunter is related to Eda and Del, but there’s no way he’s their dad/grandpa. The timeline just doesn’t add up. OG Hunter would have been way too old and Phillip wouldn’t have changed his name yet (remember, he killed and cloned Hunter before trying to start the coven system).

[@starburst98]

Great great grandfather

[@silvercomics3517]

@@starburst98 definitely more than that. Phillip and Hunter are from the 17th century.

[@HazbinCovenWitch]

I still think that he technically is. I mean, he probably had to use his brothers DNA as a base to recreate/clone Hunter a lot. 🤔

[@ajbrown7912]

Gwendolyn told Luz that her great grandmother remembered Philip, so “Hunter” must be Eda’s 2x great grandfather to match the timeline a little more

[@kawaiipotato5972]

I like to believe that Philip and his brother might have nursed their hatred for witches and stolen palismen together which made them live longer but then he fell in love cause the statue depicts Philip without a beard but it seemed he developed one while they were in the aisles along with the fact that they appear to be more teenagers when they were lured in

[@unknownvariable9239]

This episode was great. The last 40 seconds is particularly really uncomfortable to watch in a good way. Seeing Hunter basically have a panic attack is… well uncomfortable. I am very intrigued by the collector. Don’t even know what to say about the episode, my mind is all over the place.

[@popstel2286]

Yeah l feel you... l can't deal with strong emotions and Hunter having a panic attack... *Those are some strong emotion*

[@lorddaraken7568]

Disney channel does not deserve The Owl House, this episode felt like it was from a completely different channel! So dark, so mysterious, and yet so so good

[@Sasu123456789x1]

OMG I've been thinking the same thing! This show has such potential that Disney is chosing to squander for B.S. This show is amazing and it's crazy to think it was supposed to be darker in the beginning. I'm hoping this series can flourish even after it ends on Disney because it's that damn awesome!

[@CarlosGuzman-vi9xw]

@@Sasu123456789x1 oh it will, it'll only be the end on Disney.

[@santosic]

Especially after they neutered it and cut Season 3 down to essentially six episodes. Like seriously?! This show deserves to have its full story told! It would have benefited from a full third season, if they can have this amazing storyline already with only 2 seasons.... Absolute idiots in charge at Disney HQ imo

[@limeyell0w945]

This reminds me of when everyone was wondering if the owl house or amphibia would be gravity falls spiritual succesor

[@Hekskskdkdkskbjsjh]

Amphibia owl house and gravity falls all to good for Disney

[@theluigifan1]

Don’t let the stakes distract you from the fact that towards the end of the episode, Hunter finally called Luz by her real name instead of referring to her as “the human” as usual. The seeds of friendship have been planted. Some ‘Vegeta calling Goku by his Earth name instead of his birth name’ type beat right there.

[@HaydrogenBomb]

I noticed we that, too, though Belos did that, as well.

[@averagecartoonfan3519]

@@HaydrogenBomb of course he did. Why would Belos call Luz “human”, he’s a human himself.

[@HaydrogenBomb]

@@averagecartoonfan3519 Cause he has before? When they first met, in the season 1 finale.

[@averagecartoonfan3519]

@@HaydrogenBomb true, but we had no idea that he was a human then. Neither did the characters in the show.

[@theluigifan1]

@@averagecartoonfan3519 Exactly. We all just assumed he was a witch like everyone else. But as the series trudged on, we started getting more pieces to the puzzle to infer that he was actually human all this time.

[@OrielleAloysia]

Belos' disturbing backstory is actually fun and interesting to know, giving us his motive on why he became a witchhunter. Poor Hunter in this episode, I cried the last 30 seconds and I have been working on documents doing lots of work on this episode trying to put together all the pieces. BTW, that picture of one of the Golden Guards drowning is actually theorized to be the first Grimwalker Belos created, thus why the picture is bigger than the ones of each G.G.'s death.

[@zeroknight1311]

We actually saw the collector twice earlier in the season. When Eda learnt about how the Owl Beast became a Curse. And the same Episode where Lilith punched Philip.

[@mralive8146]

I think they were referring more as to actually seeing the character, how they work, etc.

[@BrandonJames2016]

Thank u I swear people are like “wow it’s the first time we see them” like um no they showed up in a physical body already before

[@First_LastName]

@@BrandonJames2016 but they weren’t shown physically before. One was right before they were summoned and one was in a dream.

[@BrandonJames2016]

@@First_LastName that was what they looked like physically lmao they just didn’t know what the face was but we know from that memory of the owl beast they can grow tall asf

[@redDawnyy]

@@BrandonJames2016 my joke headcanon is that they're not that tall in their physical form under the cloak. he's just using stilts

[@WaryJester]

I really like the connection between Hunter-Prime being a good carver, and starting a family that would eventually be known as the Clawthorn Clan. And that Del looks like Philip in the deadwardian era episode, which I noticed as well. However, I don't think he's the son of Hunter-Prime because if he got to the Boiling Isles in the 1600s, that's like a 300 or 400 year gap. I think Del is the descent of Hunter-Prime, and that bird palismen are a mark of the Clawthorn Clan. That's just a theory tho.

[@TheCommenterDragon]

This episode was really intense with the emotional scarring, i felt so bad for Hunter but at the same time i was glad they confirmed once and for all that Hunter is indeed a Grimwalker like so many analysts theorized and Luz finding out that Belos was Philip Wittebane all along all i'll say is that i can't wait to see the reactions of the other characters when Luz tells them everything.

[@animezilla4486]

Indeed this is one of the darkest episodes I ever seen

[@derekbackofen6]

This was an insane episode 10/10 in my book

[@JJ-tz2sv]

I hope Luz was paying a lot of attention to those mind pictures' contexts because I'd love to see Eda's reaction to the possibility that she and Belos are related LMAO

[@derekbackofen6]

@@JJ-tz2sv she does have a very good photographic memory so I’d say there a good chance she did

[@crimsonmoonrise9785]

I have a feeling things are going to get more intense and heart breaking. Everyone's lives are in danger,tough choices,painful revelations,and sacrifices.

[@emanuelbaigorria3932]

It makes perfect sense for Philip to be a witch hunter, considering he hails from a Connecticut colony in the 17th century. The Connecticut Witch Trials, also known as the Hartford Witch Trials, occurred between 1647 and 1663. They were the first large-scale witch trials in the American colonies, predating the Salem Witch Trials by almost thirty years. A total of 37 cases are listed, 11 of which resulted in executions, which would not come to an end until 1670, so in his mind, Belos believes he is doing the right thing by destroying witches and demons, because he sees them as evil entities. In fact, today, witches are still frowned upon, we use the term as an insult, to refer to a bad person, when we say, for example: you know what? You're a witch, all because of the bad image we have. witch witches, like evil beings.

[@sivartb7273]

There are still witch hunts in Saudi Arabia today.

[@santosic]

Harry Potter has gotten banned today, in modern times, because it depicts witches (and wizards/magic in general), so in some circles that's STILL not okay. Really gives a sense of realism to Belos, which is awesome.

[@kyletowers9662]

This very show has been accused of promoting witchcraft

[@creeperchumsworth1219]

Well I mean this is a show so it is a bit different in my opinion, as witchcraft and such is pretty bad no matter the reasoning, although yeah sucks how Philip followed such drastic measures and practicallly seemed to have gone insane, may have to watch more of the owl house as it seems to finally get interesting, uh no offense btw the show just never got me intrigued as it felt a bit uh, rushed? If that makes sense but yeah-

[@tsuyuasui7297]

i just think its so weird how he ENTERED the DEMON realm and feels entitled enough to eradicate them??? in their OWN realm???its giving colonizers which kinda make sense since he is from the 17th century after all….

[@zancusss3200]

I agree that Dell is definitely related to original Hunter, but I don't think original hunter is his dad. Maybe great great something, but no dad, the years don't match. Original hunter lived in the 1600s and died not that old, probably leaving the witch with a baby who then will go on procreating until Dell and Eda

[@Kovugamez]

Didn't Gwendolyn tell Luz that her great-grandmother, Eda's great-great-grandmother, knew about Phillip?

[@zancusss3200]

@@Kovugamez now that you mention it, you are right!! Completely forgot that it was Gwendolyn who "reveals" Philip to Luz

[@盧璘壽로인수]

@@Kovugamez I theorize said great grandmother is Caleb's witch

[@Kovugamez]

@@盧璘壽로인수 no, i think a few more generations back is when they first arrived. At least 2

[@ufoludDziad]

@@Kovugamez 400 years is a lot more generations than just great-grandparents

[@Mayonnaise-m8h]

It would be really interesting if Philip and his brother were outcasts in their village, much like Luz, and Philip clung to an idealized role as a “hero” witch hunter, much like how Luz wanted to be a traditional “protagonist” so badly at the start of Season 1. The siblings seemed to be alone a lot as kids, and enjoy playing with their imaginations and OG Hunter’s wooden carvings, which isn’t too different from Luz’s imagination, seeing herself as the heroic figure Azura. Maybe Belos’s mask is even based on some kind of hero persona he created, like “Luzura,” which the show very explicitly has him learn and refer to her as. The Collector is sort of like Adegast in the second episode, manipulating Philip’s protagonist syndrome to reach some sort of goal. The difference between them is that Luz didn’t keep clinging to her fantasy, and she grew and connected with the people she met on the Isles instead of growing more bitter. Maybe OG Hunter (or Caleb?) was accepted on the Isles, and Philip felt jealous, as well as betrayed because his brother was associating with witches. I feel that the quote “us weirdos have to stick together” could come back soon with much more significance, as something that the Wittebane brothers said to each other before they inevitably didn’t stick together, and something that Luz may say to Belos in a dramatic display of her kindness as she tries to find some good left in him before he brings about the Day of Unity. I don’t know how likely that is, but it would be such an amazing payoff.

[@noah-o2q4v]

that wouldn't be just an amazing play-off, it would be emotional and dramatic, as the owl house is and I would love if that happened

[@samurexatlas7373]

Maybe his mask isn't a remake. Maybe, as we saw his first Belos Mask was carved wood, Philip absorbing the Palismen souls also transfigured his mask, creating at least the Wooden Belos mask, if not transfigured further later on.

[@bobthebacon3163]

I don't think so. That wouldn't really make any sense. Cool theory, but lots of holes.

[@bobthebacon3163]

Also, during the Luz and Belos fight. His mask was cracked by Luz and in future episodes it's fine.

[@samurexatlas7373]

@@bobthebacon3163 It is a theory. It would be cool, as we know he can at least change his clothes too.

[@carlosrabock]

Well yeah but actually no. It's confusing. The whole situation with how Belos's body works is very, *VERY* confusing, how his clothes and mask seem to be an actual part of him. I _think_ his masks and outfits are made out of the same material as his body is, pure magic, so he can freely control them, and the only reason his mask looks the way it does is because of his _super_ twisted nostalgia about it.

[@samurexatlas7373]

@@carlosrabock Maybe. Maybe his mask is actually his Palisman? Lilith's looked way cleaner than in the time travel episode when we normally saw it.

[@genquin]

When Philip said “a better version of someone I once knew” that means he denies everything and only believes what he thinks is right it’s horrifying 🫢

[@syabilaazri7834]

In other word, we got another Simon problem

[@edizicu9853]

@@syabilaazri7834 Who?

[@syabilaazri7834]

@@edizicu9853 Simon from Infinity Train...

[@tobsonasanya4765]

@@syabilaazri7834 eh nah

[@genquin]

@@tobsonasanya4765 Simon believe the denizen were nothing as npc only there for exps and won’t think of them as anything else. Philip was from the 1600’s during the witch hunt, in those times the people were difficult to be convinced of anything new they only believe in what they know and in Philip case that’s exactly what he believes unlike his brother who was able to learn and understand plus they both try to kill the best friend with the only difference being one seceded and made a bunch of copies and the other one not so much but was losing his sanity either way 😑😑😑

[@karisma7591]

This episode DESTROYED me. Hunter is my absolute favorite character and watching him process this was heartbreaking. There's no denying it now, Belos is 100% pure fuckin evil. Really hope Darius can become the father figure he so desperately needs (and that he can get some therapy of course)! The Clawthorne theory is fascinating tho, I would love for Lilith and Hunter to be related. 10/10 sibling vibes TL;DR HOLY SHIT THAT WAS AN INTENSE EPISODE

[@the.whitest.violin9289]

It would be especially funny since lilith hated hunter

[@JJ-tz2sv]

i think it be ironic that Eda ended being related to the emperor that she hated so much lol

[@amethystsavage4018]

I hate to say it’s a generational thing, but it kinda is. Philip is from a time when there was mass hysteria over witchcraft, whereas Luz is from a time where magic is just part of the fantasy genre. That’s why Luz is a fangirl who came to the boiling isles, thinking of herself like a main character of her fantasy books and Phillip is a witch hunter, who came to the boiling isles with a deep-seeded hatred for witches.

[@clarifari1456]

I guess that Belos’ brother was an exeption then. He probably had a very good heart and an open mind, that was unusual for his era.

[@the_eerrielemental9866]

@@clarifari1456 i think people probobly thought he was a witch, since he had such a big open mind and made an escape through the portal (somehow)

[@amethystsavage4018]

@@clarifari1456 I don’t think he was the exception, after all he carved Belos’s mask and played witch hunter too when they were young. I think he just fell in love and learned that witches aren’t as bad as he thought

[@clarifari1456]

@@amethystsavage4018 Yeah you‘re right

[@ASPVids]

This is hands down the best episode of the show so far. It revealed a lot while also somehow keeping just as much under wraps. It had one of the stronger "B-Plots" we've seen in the show, and of course, it finally ripped off the band-aid of Hunter eventually turning against Belos. Not to mention the tension at the end with Luz and Hunter escaping Belos and Luz desperately yelling at Eda to activate the spell. Watched the episode three times already and got chills every time. I am VERY excited to see where we go from here.

[@justanowlhousegirl4198]

I was FREAKING OUT when I finished this episode. I wanted to cry so badly for Hunter. What is up with Belos? He was saying that he "can't reason with crazy" when Luz calls him out. Does he think he's the protagonist? That he's doing the right thing? I want to know more. Unfortunately I don't think we'll see much more of Hunter for at least two more episodes, since this week's is "Edge of the World", focusing on King, and next week is "Labyrinth Runners", focusing on Gus and Matty. However, I'm hoping so bad that Eda talks to Hunter.

[@sqxbarto9229]

Usually, one episode has more than one plotline, so I hope you are wrong about not seeing Hunter for 2 episodes. Honestly, I would prefer if Hunter contacts Willow and hide at their home (not shipping them, but I would like them as friends.)

[@jaydenklaus]

@@sqxbarto9229 I could see the b-plot of Edge of the World being Eda comforting Hunter or something.

[@sqxbarto9229]

@@jaydenklaus If they totally ignore this episode in the next one I will be mad, to be honest...

[@zexalbrony4799]

@@sqxbarto9229 With what the ploy synopsis for Labyrinth Runners is I think it's more likely that Belos sends his forces to capture and kill Luz at Hexside, when the troops show up, Amity, Willow and Gus will try to help Luz who will explain what's going on and why Belos is after her, with Luz, Amity, and Willow all getting captured leaving it up to Gus and Matty to save them. Most likely the episode will end with Luz and the gang escaping to The Owl House to plan their next move, Willow and Gus will probably offer to go and try to find or contact Hunter, while Amity stays with Luz to help her and the others prepare for the coming battle. However, we may cut back to The Owl House for a bit during the episode to see Eda probably working on either someway to find Hunter that Willow and Gus can use or calling her family to warn them about the Day of Unity now that Luz has told her even more of the details.

[@bernich13]

Belos is a product of his time. Also, there is the fact that belos & his brother seem to be on there own, could be something with that.

[@ryanw5500]

I don't think "OG Hunter" is Dell's father, he's more likely an ancestor. In Yesterday's Lies, it was said that there were two brothers who disappeared after encountering a witch. Philip and "OG Hunter" may actually be those two brothers.

[@KoiDaBoi17]

Man this episode is easily my favorite in the show. Soo much revealed and I was scared shitless at the end cause damn Belos is cold

[@AH-is5yg]

It's a great episode, Luz and Hunter didn't notice the real portraits and take the time to see them. The truth was right in front of Luz and Hunter. They got distracted. Luz and Hunter would have found out about Belos's brother and what happened between them. Belos is such a hypocrite and he became the very evil is swore to get rid of. He and Luz have in common, both of them see themselves as heroes in their own stories.

[@BrandonJames2016]

Definitely a perfect episode and why are the fans saying this episode is the first time we see the collector when it’s not we saw them in knock knock knockin on hooty’s door capturing the owl beast and they already had voice likes just something that bugs me when people forget details like that.

[@lilkat6314]

11:03 Also notice how both of Philip's knife and OG Hunter's knife, although slightly blurred a bit from the video, are both completely different. But I remember seeing a post on Tumblr explaining something similar. The OG Hunter's knife is straight and I think slightly curved. This could alude to him going on a straight path. You know, finding love and having a family. He was happy. But Philip's knife... It's jagged. The complete opposite of OG Hunter's. His mind has become twisted, not just from growing up in an era where witches were considered pawns of the devil, but from his friend or brother betraying him and the beliefs bestowed upon them as children. Both knives show the intentions of both parties. Philip has become twisted and unhinged from the betrayal, but OG Hunter is still trying to peacefully dissolve the situation. A situation that cause his demise, his lover to defend herself and their unborn child against Philip by most likely cursing him into who he is today. (Sorry if half of this doesn't make sense. I think up to the end was just a random ramble.)

[@CarlosGuzman-vi9xw]

It does look to me like the Brother ("Caleb"?) is pleasing with Philip.

[@SaturnStatic]

This episode was terrifying and heartbreaking. I was genuinely shaking by the end of the episode, and it STILL makes my stomach churn when I see that ending clip. Also,Hunter's VA is incredible, the panic attack was very realistic

[@loturzelrestaurant]

Emperor Belos Con-Artistry really gave me Flashbacks to Atheist-Channels, specificaly Telltale and Genetically Modified. I armly recommend them as Manipulation is a fascinating topic.

[@theempathysoul6572]

Only just today I realized something.. Hunter cannot use magic without his staff right? In the same episode he says that it is something genetic. It seems that it’s because his uncle, (Belos) is a human. Furthermore, I think that how his staff works has something to do with glyphs.

[@marina_ida8172]

Hunter is a Grimwalker of a human, so he wouldn't have magic since he's technically a human (with a somewhat witchlike appearance due to the Grimwalker stuff), the Genetics and being Belo's nephew are all lies he was told by Belo's

[@unknownvariable9239]

The Collector is just like Bill Cipher, fun and comedic but can also be horrifying

[@papyrusiscool5737]

And a little bit jevil

[@limeyell0w945]

They're little tricksters and I love it. Can't wait to see more from the collector

[@gosha5870]

Me :Yes i agree he's like bill Cipher *Bill Cipher suddenly teleports behind me* Bill Cipher :Yes! Like me! *while speaking, bill ciphers thumbs from both of he's hands are pointing himself * *i then replied* Me:Yes like you *gasp* *I then jump of my position shocked on who just suddenly spoken behind me* *Bill then waves and say he's goodbye* Bill: Byeee! ☝️Imagine the bye like when hunter says Byee or when Eda says Byee aswell *i sighed in relief as Bill teleports away* Me:Atleast it's not Jevil... *There was a familiar vouce behind* Jevil:Bacteria! *i then screamed like a goose and dies from heart attack*

[@tsuyuasui7297]

Yes, something about him just creeped me tf out lmao, like could you imagine a spirit/shadow just moving around your surroundings like that in a dark cave😭

[@limeyell0w945]

@@tsuyuasui7297 the collector is a sleep paralysis demon

[@fka_sophrosyne]

Hunter and The Collector’s voice actors were goated this episode. Especially hunter getting excited to see the memory of him inheriting the staff

[@millerkarageanes1562]

Don’t forget Matthew Rhys as belos

[@fka_sophrosyne]

@@millerkarageanes1562 how could I 🔥🔥

[@millerkarageanes1562]

@@fka_sophrosyne he has such a good voice doesn’t he

[@tayloredwards4968]

Emperor bellos is a complete monster. Just what he did to his brother. And what he was planning to do the hunter was absolutely disturbing. I just don't understand why he's doing what he's doing?

[@uselessundead9118]

I mean, he is a British man from 1600's, raised in the times witch hunt was accepted and even seen as right. He is actually pretty realistic

[@Sasu123456789x1]

He is truly evil!

[@dylangarcia3898]

@@uselessundead9118 he has been around in the isles since 1600s why does he still hate witches after all that time

[@uselessundead9118]

@@dylangarcia3898 maybe because that's what he was raised to believe, and he didn't fit the isles. We can clearly see that in Elsewhere and Elsewhen. Tbh, his devotion is almost admirable (in a really messed up way). Most people would have probably changed their minds with all those years, but Philip seems to see it as just a part of his plan to "save humanity from evil"

[@JJ-tz2sv]

​@@uselessundead9118 im not sure but i think his motivation to achieve his goal was probably also boosted by the whole event of killing his brother cuz of an evil witch so..

[@outcast4087]

This episode did not make me feel any different emotion-wise, but satiated my hunger for plot and revealing of mysteries. I am a sucker for these things!

[@chrisisoffline]

Something interesting I noticed about Belos’s pose at 1:22 was that it’s very similar to the pose that Satan is depicted in a lot of spiritual art. Whether or not its intentional, I’m not sure, but it’s still cool. Edit: I actually just looked and it’s literally the exact pose but Belos is standing. Even down to the way the hands are posed. There’s no way it’s unintentional.

[@mrjackel3102]

Oh wait combine that with the fact that belos's mask looks like he has horns

[@santosic]

Yes, finally, someone mentions this! I definitely caught that imagery, but seemingly not many have since I haven't seen anyone bring it up.

[@tahsenzaman7859]

hmph, that would go against the beliefs from the era they came from.

[@chrisisoffline]

@@tahsenzaman7859what

[@cholten99]

What a great episode - I really appreciate you going through all the paintings in detail, and Dana and the whole crew doing such an amazing job on "background art" that will mean so much to people taking the time to look at it. My theory is that Belos is Eda / Luz's antagonist to handle with which leaves open King's unresolved plot to deal with The Collector.

[@Mayuri_Aizen]

I feel really bad for Belos and his brother they grew up in a society who hated witches and then belos brother fell in love with one, he must of been conflicted but knew he had to do it for the greater good because of the society he grew up in

[@mevan883]

Well Belos’ brother probably started seeing the forest for the trees(basically not all witches are bad).

[@minimalism7919]

yep. A lot of people say he's beyond Redemption and Sympathy, (which he is) though what they fail to realize it he does have a tragic backstory for the things he does.

[@First_LastName]

8:13 I think that instead of Philip’s brother being eda’s grandfather, he is actually eda’s great great grandfather. This is because eda’s mom told Luz that eda’s great great grandmother told her about a human. That great great grandmother could be the one that we see Philip’s brother with from far away. The witch looks as though they could be pregnant in the painting. 🤷‍♂️

[@colebailey494]

This episode just had me shocked the entire time, and actually made me tear up during that last scene where Hunter seemed to have a panic attack, it was all amazing and heartbreaking to watch.

[@gard3boi311]

Could the Titan be a prison for the Collector, and the Draining Spell on the Day of Unity during an Eclipse be to break open the 'seal' to free the Collector, so that then the collector can commit genocide on the boiling isles?

[@brentdye1504]

And the rest of the demon realm and earth.

[@SteamTitan]

Based on what the collector said it sounds like the titan is actually trapping it. Perhaps imprisoned under the titan or something. Teleporting the boiling isles to earth would free it. Its also likely its not the titan that Belos hears but its been the collector. He knows its not the titan but uses the things the collector and him have plotted and put it through the lens of the titan speaking

[@brentdye1504]

The titan knows that the collector was dangerous.

[@gosha5870]

Basically debunking the theory that terra is also manipulating Belos

[@brentdye1504]

@@gosha5870 Well raine darius and eberwolf are opposing belos's plans involve the day of unity terra and the other five head witches are unaware what the false emperor was doing.

[@gosha5870]

@@brentdye1504 yep

[@zutaragaming4790]

As it turns out this isn't the first time we have seen the collector outside of their initial introduction of name. The collector actually appears in Eda's dream, being the figure that captures her with the net while she's near full beast. The sun and moon patterns are flipped in her dream, but it's a very similar voice if not the same and even has the moon shaped face. I have a feeling that the collector might be some entity of death itself, but that's not a fully fleshed out theory. Only little tidbits here and there with nothing concrete

[@arcanumelite4853]

Im sure the collector is the one behind all of this... and that the draining spell would also drain belos who now has magic inside him due to absorbing all the palismans...or something like that. and then in the end belos would die to being betrayed and tricked like he tricked and killed so many others... it would be a fitting end IMO.

[@Doublemonk0506]

@@arcanumelite4853, and such an evil being like the Collector would revel in the sense of betrayal and the realization of being duped that Belos would feel if that killed him

[@nametheocmaker]

​@@Doublemonk0506 this aged like milk

[@skyrogue1977]

Belos should be a Politician, his ability to spin lies and distort truth is on another level.

[@woodsiebabeyy7565]

I can't tell if this is satire, but belos IS a politician.

[@elias-ur7nf]

Hes the emperor

[@MaryJane-ll8hi]

My theory is that the Collector had something to do with King father. In Echoes of the past we see what appears to be another titan (which king's father/grandfather, was going to fight in that wall painting) which somewhat makes a cameo appearance in Edea nightmare in Knock knock on Hooty's door. The collector tried to do something with the evil titan and was eventually sealed away as a result. One important detail I think everyone overlooking, is when The collector mention 9 bright hue's. The Titian looks like it has awaken from it's slumber but in a disturbed way. Like waking it from it's sleep and cursing it somehow. Whatever that maybe I wonder if Belos has been freed from his curse by accident. If he managed to kill the palismen inside him does that mean it at bay or has he been freed from it.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

OH! Belos Con-Artistry and all that really gave me Flashbacks to Atheist-Channels, specificaly Telltale and Genetically Modified. I mean, they're Cult-Experts, but that aint all they got.

[@larsandtheoffcolorsanimeto672]

After seeing this episode, it makes me terrified on what the Day of Unity is going to play out once we get to the Season 2 finale.

[@jackomon1129]

Hollow Mind is so far the best episode of Season 2 for me, and it left me wandering a lot of things, mainly Hunter's faith, and how the other characters, and eventually the Boiling Isle would react to Belos's true intentions. Also, I love the Collector aswell, I have only finished Season 1 of Gravity Falls and seen the first two episodes of Season 2, but I can get Bill Cipher vibes from them, along with early Discord (from MLP) vibes.

[@rainbowquartz9513]

Ikr I think this episode blew me away than “a single pale rose”.

[@DreadPirateElla]

This genuinely might be my favorite episode of the entire show. Every single moment was just absolutely perfect and just all the little details thrown in were just amazing!! I'm so excited to see where hunter goes next!!

[@mrjackel3102]

Damn that's evil even for belos's with the line "the titan has big plans for you" at least that made us theorists think that if hunter was killed it would be for some bigger purpose but no bells does it for fun I really hope he gets petrified or something at the end of this series

[@CarlosGuzman-vi9xw]

Nah, too good for that POS

[@Mandy.04]

I’m just nervous because Dana apparently doesn’t like happy endings lol

[@ragiansteel8944]

On King's comment it's a reflection about his own arc. Hes had to go through the process of reconstructing how he knew his past and what he believed in. I'm so glad you broke down the paintings in the back I saw them but do much was happening. I didn't notice all the ways the other grimwalkers were killed cause 😬 yall this is still pg. Belos is hella evil without that of pg 13 rating

[@Deadpool-fh6ve]

I think I know what Below's plan is. Throughout this season, the uses of Titan's blood has been shown to us. The fact being that it is an extremely powerful power source. The collecter said the Isles would be covered in a hue, which got me thinking. Darius gave Rain a paper talking about a draining spell during the day of unity. What of Belows is going to use everyone's cover symbol to drain all of their magic, and use it to power the portal door.

[@0..allyzyt057]

your suspicions were correct

[@denycast]

So clever writing. Having King say " no one wants to realize, they followed the wrong idea their whole life" and than seeing hunter in denial the most time on the episode. Thank you for the breakdown of the backstory. I love the TOH for it's details.

[@Nitzah]

So my working theory here that would explain how Phillip went from kinda prejudice to the extreme lengths of genocide I think would not just be him killing his brother out of jealousy, but his brother possibly deciding to give up on their quest to go home to live a life in the Isles with his love. So while Philip may have to a degree on an academic level softened a bit of the fear that would arise from being in the Isles, Hunter prime would have gotten really into it, or at least really into said mystery lady. So with this witch driving a wedge between the two brothers, the final straw could’ve been the brother saying he wasn’t going home anymore because he fell in love. Phillip could have, in a way to rationalize how in the heck his own brother chose a witch over him, saw it as a trick/spell of some sort. So Phillip tries to kill baby mamma, Hunter prime steps in to stop him, Phillip accidentally kills him and blames the witch for being the evil siren who used her evil witchcraft to corrupt his brother, also blaming her in the process. And to not have to face the guilt of his own actions would take his guilt and grief to the extreme of destroying all witches for what they have done. Turning it into a Nobel quest of some sort, only getting more fixated on this goal over the years.

[@teddyfurstman1997]

This episode is so intense as well as got me excited for what's next for This series. Also, Nice Toondrip. Below killing his own Brother proved to me that he's just evil.

[@octabodemes]

It's also sad to connect the dots about Darius being so kind to Hunter in Any Sport In a Storm once Hunter decides to make friends and shows Flapjack instead of being just the Golden Guard. How he even says that he will make his ancestors proud because after all, they also rebelled against Belos.

[@sorcerersapprentice]

Honestly, as corny as this sounds, this episode made me feel like a kid again. It was a total rollercoaster ride with a lot of fan theories being confirmed and how intense it was. I never felt this way watching a Disney Channel show since I watched Not What He Seems from Gravity Falls as it was airing for the first time when I was a kid. Kudos to The Owl House writers and animators for creating such a fantastic episode.

[@Koconuut]

I still felt bad for flapjack when he was alone without hunter, this cinnamon roll must be protected!

[@twobraincells5979]

Painting the land in nine bright hues is in reference to the nine covens: healing, construction, plant, beast keeping, bard, illusion, abomination, potion, and oracle. Making sure every witch is marked with a sigil might play an essential role in organizing the Collector’s plan.

[@ArreisNevar]

Based on the Time Pool episode where Luz and Lilith met Phillip, I already knew that Belos and Phillip are the same person. It was just heartbreaking to see Luz and Hunter's reaction to the revelations. I feel like this episode revealed a lot of information but still left us with questions that I hope can be answered in future episodes, especially regarding the collector and Belos's past. The paintings in his mindscape revealed a lot, but I have a feeling there is a lot more that is yet to be revealed.

[@johnhayward998]

I hope hunter joins luz and eda to become part of the clawthrons he deserves so much love and happiness

[@mrjackel3102]

I don't really think that would be right sure it would be nice but hunter doesn't really have much of a friendship with luz or any of the current owl house residence I fell like it would make more sense if he went to willow or Gus since he has a close bond with them sense there all on the flying durbe(curse my spelling) team but thats just my opinion

[@johnhayward998]

@@mrjackel3102 Yeah but he really needs a good family and friends

[@neokamenrider]

@@johnhayward998 there's Darius

[@johnhayward998]

@@neokamenrider True

[@mrjackel3102]

@@johnhayward998 well I think the community has dubbed darius as hunter father figure and we'll there's the flying durbe team

[@kristinag7621]

So I don’t think the OG “hunter” wittebane was Dell’s father. I think it was the clawthorne ancestor but I swore Dana said that witches on the boiling Isles have the same lifespan as humans on earth meaning it has been several generations at least. Below has been prolonging his life with pailismen it seems like but other witches are probably still living like normal but again I’m not sure

[@larsandtheoffcolorsanimeto672]

One of the most darkest episodes in the series so far, but still an amazing episode.

[@tomsparrow1823]

My only argument with the family tree theory is that the timeline wouldn't really add up for Philip's brother to be Dell's father, because by the time we see Philip in elsewhere and elsewhen his brother is already dead and Philip has seemingly gone through four grimwalkers (or attempts at making them anyway) already, as it's been pointed out to me that the body in the background at the end of that episode has a tag attached to it with the number four. So, if Philip was already dead around the 16th/17th century, that means the baby he had with the Clawthorne Ancestor would have been born around that century as well, and seeing as there's no indication that witches live longer than humans, I don't think Dell is several hundred years old. That being said, the baby could have been Dell's great grandparent, possibly. I think that's just enough generations for it to make sense.

[@Andez1248]

Wait what if the episode title code from s1 was about Belos, Hunter/original Hunter, and the Clawthorns? Two witches torn apart, now alone: Worked for Eda and Lilith at the start but could also sorta work with Hunter and Belos now (a little iffy) Two hearts of stone: Belos is a cold-hearted killer and Hunter (a grimwalker) has a Galdorstone for a heart A curse of feathers and mud: Literally the owlbeast curse that was split between Eda and Lilith and Belos's curse A betrayal of blood: Both Lilith cursing Eda and Belos killing the original Hunter and every Golden Guard after It's a little shaky but I think it's an interesting jumping off point

[@santosic]

Possible, if this video's theory that the riddles are actually from the Collector is true.

[@KingdomH342]

quick note, Del is not the son of the brother, but a descendant. its been around 350 years since Philip/Belos came to the Isles, and its been said by the crew that witches have a similar life span to humans, life extension not withstanding. as such it makes no sense for Del to be the son of the brother, distant grandson most likely, but not the son. just thought I'd put that out there.

[@justinriley]

After this episode, I need The Vile Eye to do an Analyzing Evil video on Belos ASAP.

[@CakeoftheMews]

Zeno's voice acting just went OFF this episode and it's always a pleasure. I can only imagine that Darius and the others stopped Hunter when he ran into the woods, and hopefully giving the kid the support he needs ;;;

[@ChaosUnfold]

So many revelations in one episode, though it was expected given where they were. We know now the day of unity isn't really an invasion of Earth since Belos is out to kill every witch. We also know why the Collector is in allegiance with him and how he lost his brother. But we still don't know why he needs Golden Guards for. Hopefully, we'll find out soon.

[@marina_ida8172]

I think he just makes Golden Guards so he can have a remnant of his brother around for the day of Unity, one that'll actually be glad that this is happening like he will be

[@pjdianalan7934]

I mean, King Andrias already has his hands full on invading Earth. I think the reason why Belos wants the Day of Unity is because he THINKS he's defending Earth, a direct opposition of the Newts' ideology, in that they don't discriminate in massacring races.

[@mayracordero382]

This is the best episode and hunter learning about his past and belos killing his brother is so intense and I hope that belos and the day of unity will be stopped!

[@Mandy.04]

Apperently Dana said she doesn’t like happy endings which makes me a little nervous about this show

[@gnhpinn]

Is it possible Darius and Ever switched sides after seeing the truth of the sigil magic in that they could all be subdued at the flick of a finger? The previous golden guard’s death might’ve also been a motivation for Darius but I can’t think what other reason Ever would have to change of mind so quickly

[@idstuff349]

If the collector is in a dimension is similar to the one luz was in, maybe they're trapped because of the titan and the collector needs a powerful draining spell to escape. It seems like it would be a good deal for the both of them, the collector can escape, and Belos can get rid of wild magic. When the collector is talking about the day of unity, the bones of the titan shatter, maybe that's an indication of the collector being freed from a dimension that the titan keeps them in.

[@WDB2005]

Fun fact: When Belos was talking to the witches when the bombs went off anybody else think that it sounded like something out of the Bible just in different words? I think that may be 1 of the reasons it was cancelled I could be wrong

[@Jungoguy]

I thought Belos was giving off Antichrist vibes.

[@jamesverone1244]

well it definitely shows religious vibes. just speaking lies and half truths

[@gard3boi311]

I immeaditly jumped to this conclusion when watching the episode. The fact that he comes from the 1600's, a time with large witch-hunts and religious fervor, and the fact that Phillip hates witches, only serve to prove that point Edit: also the fact that Belos seems to think he is in the right, and that Luz is craxy for defending witches and calling him out (As someone suggested in a TOH discord server, perhaps a nod towards the origins of the term 'hysteria?')

[@dutchstewart9462]

I have a potential theory for "The Owl House," could Luz (and humans in general) possibly be something of an amplifier for magic cast by witches? The reason I bring this up is because some of the most impressive feats (outside of Eda's) were performed with Luz either being directly involved or in close proximity to the spell being cast. Do you find this theory plausible or am I just finding something where there is nothing?

[@makeitraynex3875]

I was thinking it could be maybe a determination sorta deal like Undertale. Blood born witches get their magic from their magic sacks but human witches could possibly be able power their magic in the human world with perhaps determination? And when another witch is casting a spell perhaps if a human with a lot of determination is near maybe they could power or boost it.

[@rainbowquartz9513]

“To you, who strayed so far from home. To me, who's trapped beneath these bones. We'll play forever, me and you, when you paint the land in nine bright hues!” Who else is afraid of the collector’s words 😰😰😰😰

[@MrBigtank78]

Huge Major Kudos to the voice actor Zeno Robinson. His voice acting for Hunter is top notch!! His panic attack at the end really had me. Hunter really got hit with reality but poor Luz only 14 dealing with all this Jesus this show is amazing!

[@sylvieblight03]

there is no way the philips brother is dells father, philip himself is over 300 years old so theres no way dell could still be alive seeing as witches appear to have the same lifespan as humans, id say odds are that he's dells or gwens great great great great great grandfather (or something like that, not exactly sure how many greats that would be)

[@benlegall]

So Phillip seemed to be in his 20s or early 30s when he first got to the boiling isles in the 1600s which would mean he’s in his 450s so assume he made the belos persona right before his debut as emperor and the grim walkers all died at around hunters age starting as a child belos has gone through OVER 20 MAYBE 30 Golden Guards and hunter might either be 21 or 25 I’m guessing 20 to make the next 21 but yea THIS DUDE IS SICK

[@FrogworfKnight]

Late 1600's is the time period we are looking at, so closer to 300 to 375 years passing since Phillip came to the Isles. And best to assume that the 17 dead we see is what we have, as that puts their average age of death to being between 17 to 22. 30 would be too much, unless there is artificial aging involved.

[@farolddatrinidade6149]

I think the previous golden guard and hunter were meant to be used as a hist for the collector since by his figure he doesn't have a physical body.

[@JJ-tz2sv]

they used to tho right? in the owl beast's memory episode?

[@pvzgamer9517]

I think some of the theorists are forgetting Philip's story started almost 400 years ago not 50! No shot Philip's brother is Dell's dad or something, it's such a huge time gap!

[@foreverts3538]

Theory: Emprator belos have curse right maybe thats because he dont left the boiling island and he want to delete all kinds of magic because if he delete the magic he dont have curse anymore because his curse made with speels

[@pp7886]

Belos is the human

[@recognizablebrandname]

He wants to get rid of the magic because it finds it is "evil" and "unholy" not because he wants to get rid of his curse. That could be another reason though

[@kevinpascual9582]

Maybe the owl house season 2 final battle eda lilith raine whisper luz amity hunter willow gus vee and camila vs emperor belos then to get the key and portal door from human world luz she go to back home

[@CasualSatorian]

This episode was very dark, it revealed A LOT, but at the same time it pulled at the emotional strings. Thank you Roundtable for the amazing insight and explanation of some parts I myself didn't fully understand. Can't wait for the next one

[@aruce9]

I feel that what happened with belos is what eda went through but more forcefully and more aggressively. Where eda came to terms with her curse belos tricked luz and hunter into absorbing the mass of palisman souls. He is like harpy eda but more terrifying

[@Ollie_668]

As someone with similar experiences to Hunter I can confirm they did a very good job with how they portrayed his trauma

[@djparty247]

I was on my break at work when I saw this episode , I went back behind the till with tears in my eyes. I had a head canon that once Hunter was out of sight Darius caught him and comforted him.

[@sqxbarto9229]

I think Darius saving Hunter can be dangerous if Belos can spy on them somehow (Darius and Raine never talked, probably fearing they are monitored somehow)

[@cholten99]

That's a nice thought but I think it's more likely he ends up going to Willow's.

[@djparty247]

@@cholten99 I like that idea too, they have a great friendship growing (including everyone else in the flyer derby team) and it could grow into something more. I get young RaEda vibe’s

[@static_irony]

16:45 - 17:30 particularly blew my mind. To think these riddles have been placed to imply the Collector has been communicating to us through the fourth wall... 🤯👌 mind blowing and perfect. Being a 'child from the stars' who was literally able to manipulate the very movement of celestial bodies in the boiling isles, it makes sense they could transcend reality just to fuck with us

[@TheAnimatorOfOpallyon]

*The Colector is the new Bill Cipher, i love insane and chaotic characters like them, honestly one of my favourite archetypes.* *Also, there music theme sounds like the Wild Signals theme from Close Encounters of the Third Kind.*

[@iamrj006]

I noticed that when Hunter and Luz run to the Walkie talkie, you can see that they are holding hands. Before that Belos said to Hunter that «Out of all the Grimwalkers, you looked the most like him.» So Belos probably saw history reapeat itself. Since in one picture you can see that his brother (who looks like Hunter) is running off with a witch. Idk I might be overthinking but it was a kinda cool detail

[@orchid1936]

Two things I want to point out: 1. Eda may be a wild witch, but what if she mostly has been using potion magic this whole time? 2. I bet the main reason the clones chose to betray Belos is because he never gave them the approval they desired. Third Theory: Since Hunter ran into the woods, what if this is a chance for him to officially meet the Bat Queen? She seems to live close to the Owl House. Plus she took care of FlapJack.

[@yaboylion9244]

Idk about that first one but agree on the second and they could also be kind deep down and not want to do the bad things they are ordered to do like Hunter

[@shan3622]

It’s so amazing how much story we could unravel just from background paintings

[@HaydrogenBomb]

To tell you how good this episode was, let me explain: It surpassed Knock Knock Knockin on Hooty's Door for me. Yeah.

[@drongobrat6471]

this episode was insane. i really appreciate these videos from you, because I literally didn't even realize that belos's whole backstory was in those paintings, which you laid out so nicely for everyone. For some reason a moment that really stuck with me from this episode was when Eda said, "don't crowd them." It helps characterize her as experienced with panic attacks and high-stress situations, and also as somebody who's super caring and thoughtful when things get serious.

[@summertime6785]

After watching Hollow Mind, I have no doubt in my mind that Philip/Belos is irredeemably rotten to his core. I truly hope he receives every single ounce of bad karma he is owed for every horrible atrocity he has committed on the people of the Demon Realm.

[@HaydrogenBomb]

Yeah. Recently, it seems like Andrias may have some shot at redemption in Amphibia, but Belos? Not. A. Chance.

[@Sasu123456789x1]

All of this! He is a vile man.

[@Mandy.04]

I just really hope this show ends with a decent ending not a bad or sad one

[@tsuyuasui7297]

yesss especially for every witch and palismen he murdered.

[@Lady13Paranoid]

Philip's backstory hidden in this episode is amazing, thank you for this video!!!

[@wolfwarren6376]

Hooray! I’ve been waiting for this. Thanks guys!

[@StareachValcin]

I have to admit that the history of Phillip and his friend is just as interesting, if not more interesting than what happened in the episode hollow mind.

[@DjtheDoge2006]

Something funny to note belos used the same kind of knife that Luz almost got killed with all the way back in season one