Ahmad Jamal - Darn that dream

Darn that dream - Ahmad Jamal (piano), Israel Crosby (bass), Vernell Fournier (drums) 1959
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[@adeduction]

I can't believe this really happened. In Chicago in 1959? Was that really Hank Jones standing next to Jamal? And was that really Ben Webster digging what he was hearing & thinking 'are these guys for real?' Was that white guy with the pipe really Nat Hentoff the editor of Down Beat then? And was the really the great Jo Jones smiling at us at the very end? Was it for real - or was this just a darn dream?

[@retrorex]

Nat Hentoff was never editor of Down Beat. He became the editor of Jazz Magazine a couple of years after this wonderful clip.

[@zdogg8]

Yes, and also trumpeter Buck Clayton, and I do think the Count Basie Orchestra might have shared this show and so they are all there with others. Ben Webster was one of Jamal's biggest influences.

[@oaklabsoundsystem2305]

@@retrorex I'm unfamiliar with these positions. Is there a difference between Editor of Downbeat and maybe a position like "City Editor"? Wikipedia says this: "In 1952, Hentoff joined Down Beat magazine as a columnist.[17] The following year, he moved to New York to become the city's editor of the magazine.[6] He was fired in 1957, he alleged, because he attempted to hire an African-American writer.[18]" He was editor of something at Down Beat for approximately 5 years.

[@MegaLJ3]

I was born and raised in Chicago. I still can't believe how blessed I was to be able to study with Vernel for 1.5 years starting in 1965. I still use everything he taught me including the beat for Poinciana. He was a quiet soft spoken man with no hidden agenda. I sure miss him.

[@rayjr62]

What a monster player. Underrated.

[@timcuff6514]

the brush master. must have been a real treat to learn from a legend like Vernel

[@atombomb31458]

i love his style....do u still play?

[@brucescott4261]

@@timcuff6514 ...You took the words right out my mouth, Tim! Of course, Papa Joe Jones is number one! Vernell Fournier is 1a). Those two were head and shoulders above the rest of the brush masters, PERIOD!!!

[@leestamm3187]

I've been a fan since the early 1960's. I saw him live at Jazz Alley in Seattle in 1994. He was terrific, and kind enough to talk with me between sets. A real gentleman, as well as an all time great musician.

[@MrJazzohjazz]

I recall not getting into the Pershing Lounge on Cottage Grove and 64 but I stood outside and heard this trio playing Surry with the Fringe On Top .... through the doorway. I was 14 at the time ... I believe it was 1955 or 56 ..... Argo was recording the sessions over a weekend

[@nurvraxartproductions6145]

Lots of greats in the audience, the kind of crowd to unnerve a young artist, but Ahmad is steely throughout -awesome

[@raginbakin1430]

Great point. Most people would slip with an audience like that. Ahmad’s the GOAT

[@nurvraxartproductions6145]

Gentleman Martin Haggis 69 thanks 😊

[@parkertrent6941]

the hang in that room is legendary

[@puchenko83]

papa jo face in the end...awesome.Vernel was the MAN!!!!

[@echoscope4278]

i don't think there's a limit to how much he can blow your mind.

[@AaronKoskelainenBass]

Israel Crosby! What a legend!

[@VCaamano]

Jamal’s phrasing is a masterclass.

[@rpkrauss1]

Oh Mann Groove, groove , grove at its best. Just listen to the shifting, grooving, swing. By all members of this once in a lifetime rhythm section. Ahmad at his amazing early years best..!! Still relent today folks!

[@zwakelemgabhi]

Ahmad has been good for a long time

[@ailurolofi2719]

To think that man innovated an entire genre of music ! Truly incredible

[@imanitrapp1871]

I'm speechless...... what a performance... I

[@christophermehrens9212]

Absolutely sublime. Sophistication, elegance and delicacy ...

[@christophermehrens9212]

Rest in Peace. Thank you for your artistry.

[@dominic6720]

RIP Nat Hentoff , bearded man smoking a pipe at 4:46 .. passed away this last January

[@herbayum76]

Fascinating to listen and see. Jamal surrounded by connaisseurs. TOP

[@agustine.alvarez9832]

Hermosa la version y muchas figuras famosas escuchando la magistral interpretacion de Ahmad Jamal. Un momento inolvidable para los amantes del jazz.

[@leomiles8658]

Reading Ted Gioia, How To Listen To Jazz. Is it the one ?

[@davidlane9733]

yup. an example showing that good jazz doesn't need to be amplified to death, right? this is ahmad jamal's great early trio. poinciana (live at the pershing) was a big hit.

[@casanovawines]

I’m doing the same thing Leo. I have been listening to jazz for forty years and I am still amazed at how many wonderful artists there are in this medium.

[@spadge1able]

another old tune well played. like the clock striking on keyboard & bass 2.he's great now & was good then 2.genius as ever.what an example to young musicians.

[@Createdbysophistic8ed]

That was amazing! For a moment I wish I was back in those days... 🤔

[@Jordii824]

The young Ahmad Jamal presents his thesis to the committee.

[@pfaessel1]

Yes: the rhythm sections was absolutlely killin'! Israel Crosby was like having Johann Sebastian Bach as your bass player...a genius! And Vernel Fournier was perfect: really perfect. Never played anything that wasn't appropriate to the music! What a great trio!

[@keilahmichalspann8883]

My co-worker Brian brought me here. This performance was everything!

[@superjules]

Papa Joe Jones in the audience!!

[@Tubthumper007]

Zamphyr ... I spotted that too. Blimey, can you imagine how nervous you'd be if Papa Jo was standing behind you... "Aaaaargh". I wouldn't be able to play.

[@miya1285]

my grandfather told me a story about how Ahmad Jamal came to his school, Ahmad was only 17 at the time but he played like he was 60 and had practiced his whole life.

[@postatility9703]

Jamal's playing is often an orchestra in itself!

[@gregmaier8714]

Broadcast from CBS Studio 61, housed at the Monroe Theatre at 1456 First Avenue, at East 76th Street, this 1959 episode of Jazz from Sixty-One featured a live performance of "Darn That Dream" by Ahmad Jamal and his trio. Pianist Ahmad Jamal (1930-2023) was accompanied by Crosby (1919-1962) on bass, and Vernel Fournier (1928-2000) on drums. Also visible in the video are other luminaries who performed that evening, including tenor saxophonist Ben Webster, pianist Hank Jones, bassist George Duvivier, drummer Jo Jones, trumpeter Buck Clayton and trombonist Vic Dickenson. The show's consultant, Nat Hentoff, can be is seen nodding to the music with a pipe in his mouth and his wife next to him.

[@rayjr62]

R.I.P. Mr. Jamal.

[@pickinstone]

Fournier, another master of brushes up there with Ed Thigpen and Art Taylor. And you can't play mallets on the floor tom without acknowledging Fournier.

[@howardgreene8720]

Is this the only video footage of Vernel? It's all I've ever seen.

[@christophercasey6775]

I would love to see more of Fournier. He's great.

[@peggyrannick7812]

Sensational

[@udomatthiasdrums5322]

still love it!!

[@raginbakin1430]

I love Joe Jones’s face at the end!

[@Nicast]

Masterly !

[@retrorex]

At last, you can hear Israel Crosby loud and clear! He was always buried in the album mixes. BTW, I didn't know Vernell Fournier was white. There was never a picture of the Ahmad Jamal Trio on any of the albums they made together, just a picture of Ahmad. I always wondered why.

[@zdogg8]

VF He's a Louisianan - so no tellin what he is, you dig? Frenchman and whatever else.

[@EliJah-pr6jj]

zdogg8 looked creole to me

[@CoolFreeHardBop]

I love Ben Webster in these videos. He’s like “what the fuck do you want?” The BRUTE!

[@joegiotta7580]

I really like how Papa Jo is having a great time.

[@lapps22]

FAB-U-LUSSS 100%

[@greeksalad4783]

Ahmad Jamal looks like he's barely 20 something and he could swing! ( ^ _ ^ )

[@rayjr62]

He was 28 when this was filmed.

[@Mrbrbusby]

The Nigerian artist now known as Sade was in possession of a time traveling device prior to Crosby’s death in 1962

[@atombomb31458]

top notch all the way

[@runjazz1]

still issssssssssssssss!!!!!!

[@retrorex]

Funny thing: On all his album covers, Jamal NEVER showed any photos of Israel Crosby or Vernell Fournier, so I've always wondered what the heck they looked like. This is from the period when Jamal was playing some very interesting stuff in a very individual style and the critics (including Hentoff) could never give him anything but criticism ("cocktail piano," "glib," etc) for it!

[@zdogg8]

I am suprised by the Hentoff tidbit. I knew some others made this stupid "charge" denigrating one of the architects of modern jazz and one of its true virtuosos. Nobody ever played like Jamal, and the chance you would ever see another are slim and none. I was with him about three weeks ago, and he's still going strong, the music still lucid and supple - and bombastic at times - as well. Great man and unbelievable musical mind.

[@johntravena119]

Jamal's emphasis is always on rhythm. His ornamentation is brilliant but he uses it to emphasize the rhythm, often to the extent that the melody falls apart. One gets the feeling he isn't interested in the lyrics of the tune. Maybe, too, he's tired of hearing the song rehashed with the same old cliches & embarrassed to play it straight - the way Gould would do some Mozart. The people who think it's cocktail music miss it's rythmic pulse.

[@michaelmoellman]

ha ha! dig it

[@zbeeez]

RIDICULOUS. any more footage from this session ?

[@dougafir51]

Yes, found one more so far. Search "Ahmad's Blues".

[@apfelbaum6858]

Zach Berns darn that dream ahmad Jamal Ben Webster sewstet

[@horseloverfat420]

as a piano player, I feel personally attacked

[@runjazz1]

@gr2222 still issssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!

[@MattLeGroulx]

What broadcast is this from? Looks like The Sound Of Jazz but it didn't make it into the final cut?

[@kjfromocpodcast1110]

2019 anyone?

[@auroradarienzo]

[@anthony.pearlman]

5:25 when the poop finally comes out

[@tfsushi]

At 0:14 looks like Ben Webster

[@bavs4811]

He's on the same program playing c-jam blues with his band

[@jjsage8903]

Anyone know what key this song is is in?

[@jjazz22]

Flat major. The bridge goes to Amajor. It's normally played in Gmajor.

[@jjazz22]

DFlat major.

[@neuromantoo]

@@jjazz22 It's in the key of AHMAD!!!

[@QuestionYourThoughts]

looks like a joint he has there....lol

[@LaurentJames]

Le prophète des rêves.

[@bonjourbonjour7635]

N'importe quoi

[@LaurentJames]

@@bonjourbonjour7635 Bonjour.

[@djackson9928]

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[@bonjourbonjour7635]

Pas beaucoup mis en avant , bien sur maintenant oui. mais au fait pourquoi 'peut être que son nom et prénom ne sonnait pas trop jazz..

[@VassilisArt]

Papa Joe @ 5.28' , Ben Webster .ao,

[@patrickgrandon86]

Is that freakin' Fidel Castro???????

[@zdogg8]

Jazz critique and commentator on life, the late Nat Hentoff, of the Village Voice. Died a year or two ago.

[@4scheveningen]

Strange Since I know Petrucciani better I find Jamal lacking phantasie But He is still nice btw I have the same feeling concerning Oscat, please forgive

[@ZionGuySupreme]

Willie Vijer that's a style. If I could describe (which I can't) hard/stale style of playing compared to "Phantasie". Both players Ahmad and Oscar use maybe shorter/wider tones.... Brings out the warmth. If that makes any sense.

[@zdogg8]

Petrucciani couldn't carry Jamal's water bottle.

[@brucescott4261]

@@zdogg8 ...Tell him about it! THANK YOU!!!

[@runjazz1]

still isssssssssss!!!!!!!!

[@runjazz1]

@gr2222 still issssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!