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@henrythegreatamerican8136 Жыл бұрын
Loved that Nick Cave quote, but he is wrong about one thing. ChatGPT is limited by everything human. We'll see where ChatGPT goes once it transcends the human experience.
@taura101 Жыл бұрын
over the last month I have been diving into the chat gpt conversation and AI music conversation and I watched more KZbin videos on the subject that I can remember and I've even followed a few of them through their links to the recommended software and to recommended applications and so on. I checked out dozens of these applications and in the process downloaded none of them, the reason being that all these applications are designed for Joe public. All to enable Joe public to make music and it'll be all Joe public standard of orchestration Joe public standards of arrangement Joe public standards or sound design and so on. I'm not anti Joe public. I had a joe public moment recently myself where with chat gpt I learnt seven script codes that enabled me to get a job done and I felt like Joe public programmer Andy Joe public coder so I know the appeal of Joe public services. Having said that none of the AI applications that I looked around and and their future roadmaps are all geared towards Joe public. They are not geared towards musicians songwriters music creators people who creates stuff through their imagination and onto the instruments at cetera. The music languages is not part of their design and their roadmap so as far as I can see AI is a joe public music vehicle and when there's lots of Joe public music around my guess is that human created music may start having some more value again and after being on the back shelf for an extended period will have its moments in the sun as a more valued resource in the same way that vinyl is making a comeback. AI is designed for Joe public and the corporations, not the song musicians musical creators musical producers and the like. Thank you Mary for a great video.
@RecklessFables Жыл бұрын
@@jamespowers8826 I wouldn't go so far as to say it is the purpose, but it is absolutely a way it will be used. I think an even darker use will be combining AI decision making with the ever evolving knowledge of how music can manipulate emotions. An AI that can monitor you and then manipulate your environment... That's going to be an interesting world. It might start out benign , like easing the pain of patients, but it will quickly manipulated to extract additional production from workers or evoke the emotions necessary for control.
@joeb3590 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@andhewonders Жыл бұрын
I went through the same horrors when the first electronic keyboards came out, the very beginning of soulless music.
@dirkmertens6926 Жыл бұрын
Playing music together is just irreplaceable fun.
@dirkmertens6926 Жыл бұрын
@@lain9719 Thanks for pointing that one out. Wonderful video indeed.
@rdt777 Жыл бұрын
fr man
@scottythetrex5197 Жыл бұрын
Until it's not.
@Traumglanz Жыл бұрын
This one gets it.
@duellingscarguevara Жыл бұрын
Even solo, (on a dinky tambourine, with Christmas tree decorations for brushes), I can play along to some of the best tunes ever. Always wanted to play drums.
@bullseyecanada Жыл бұрын
I'm a musician with 45 years behind me. I've seen every innovation under the sun. One thing technology will never replace is the direct connection between the performer and the listener - whether it's in a stadium or sitting around a campfire.
@adamprice3466 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, "AI" just reminds of the magical self playing piano invented in 1910. They said it was going to put human piano players out of business.
@myfavoritethings6433 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but we are forgetting something and that is the fact that the oportunities will decrease dramatically. We have to forget the romantic side of music and understand that we DON'T really know what's going to happen in the future with this tools.
@ibethebandu.a.morrison653 Жыл бұрын
People became musicians with the dream of making it big. Take away that incentive and the talent pool dries up.
@adamprice3466 Жыл бұрын
@@ibethebandu.a.morrison653 Making it big(rich and famous) is getting more and more rare but making enough for a living or side income is getting easier.
@Boodschap Жыл бұрын
@@ibethebandu.a.morrison653 What a cynical world vieuw. 😄 It makes me laugh how ridiculous your remark is. Literally no one starts making music with the idea to make it big. You start making music because you love it ❤
@gabedwards Жыл бұрын
“The medium itself doesn’t matter…the gramophone didn’t kill live performance, amplification didn’t kill acoustic instruments, the MP3 didn’t kill vinyl, AI-assisted music creation software is just the latest advancement. But I am confident there will always be a place for craft and talent; a hunger for that most human of connections that comes with listening to a divine piece of music.” Beautiful! Thank you for the inspiration! ❤
@Cestariarts Жыл бұрын
Mp3 nearly killed vynil, it had a comeback because nostalgia era hit in 2010
@VABE81030 Жыл бұрын
Lack of cultural creativity is a problem. Music and art need to be emphasized in training and education of young people. It’s time they no longer take a back seat to STEM subjects, especially after the hit they took from the COVID measures.
@Dram1984 Жыл бұрын
"the gramophone didn’t kill live performance" Oh but it did. Musicians used to play all the music you could hear in any public place, the theater, sports games, festivals, etc... All those were put out of work by the gramophone.
@VABE81030 Жыл бұрын
@@Dram1984 - great point, and I would add that eventually led to industrialized music (the music industry) which squelched creativity and exploited artists. Nonetheless, I still love the music; hoping a better paradigm is evolving.
@3zzzTyle Жыл бұрын
They didn't kill previous things, but still pushed them into obscurity and niche entertainment. It's death in all but name, and same will happen to human musicians in general, sooner or later.
@crabbypaddy5549 Жыл бұрын
I'm just addicted to live acoustic music made and performed by Humans. I simply do not connect emotionally with robots and AI singing on a stage in a bar.
@thedduck Жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, the classic, *I'm deathly scared and afraid of snakes even though I've never seen one IRL* 🙃
@michaelflagulant Жыл бұрын
what happens when music, books, etc. are all made by AI. you won't know the difference because AI will sound and read real. so what then! 🤷♂️
@darylching Жыл бұрын
i’m kinda “hoping” this becomes a trend as tech evolves.
@elvispresleysongssunginmyc4463 Жыл бұрын
This is wonderful! As AI moves toward the ‘perfect’ music, more and more listeners will be drawn to my imperfect, raw, flawed, sometimes so bad it’s both sad and funny, amateur vid/songs. I’m gonna be famous!
@michaelflagulant Жыл бұрын
@@elvispresleysongssunginmyc4463 true, AI won't be able to dublicate that sound. 😜
@martin-1965 Жыл бұрын
Having made it to 57 years of age, I am glad I lived through the period I did for music. When I stopped being involved professionally in music back in 2010/11 it was already apparent that the business no longer really needed to spend money to develop new artists; it could survive and thrive on the massive back catalogues and pick up artists when they were already polished and ready to release their first recordings. Through streaming and licensing to other mediums, it could and has generated increased profits year after year. But NOT for the artists. New artists like Mary have to take control of their own careers and use every opportunity possible to make enough money to be able to commit full time to making their music. When I say "commit full time" that's sadly not accurate as they need to - as Mary points out - have a mass of other skills which take time away from the creative process. How this all works out in the future for musicians is hard to predict. It's no longer the world I knew but I can see how things could be so much better for artists now that the need for corporate backing to create, perform and distribute your work is no longer essential. To all young musicians out there, I hope the future allows you to have as much fun and creative experiences as I have had in my career. The speed of change from year to year feels dizzying at present - at least to me - but change is inevitable and younger minds will - I hope sincerely - keep making amazing music that is human and soulful for centuries to come 😎
@downtownbillyandthenewjivefive Жыл бұрын
"I can see how things could be so much better for artists now that the need for corporate backing to create, perform and distribute your work is no longer essential." Huh? We are at the whim of corporations every day: KZbin, so starters. How about Spotify? Apple? Microsoft? If you want to make waves, you have to suck up to someone. Or a lot of someones. The future is already here, and the winners are those with enough money to buy their way into the public consciousness. Almost every new potential fan requires someone else to tell them something is good, or else it will be ignored. Sadly, one of my favorite "artists" (Tim Henson) now shills for every company he can, not that I blame him. But that is not the bright future for artists that I foresaw when I started devoting my life to music... I didn't suffer for years, and devote myself to my art, simply to sell products. That is not a bright future.
@3DJapan Жыл бұрын
Music, like all art forms, is in a constant state of flux. Ever evolving and changing.
@poohshmoo9892 Жыл бұрын
>>> ... back in 2010/11 it was already apparent that the business no longer really needed to spend money to develop new artists ...
@NoLefTurnUnStoned. Жыл бұрын
@@poohshmoo9892 “Develop” new artists
@jeramiahrossnz Жыл бұрын
Thats totally what I saw at the same time as you did, we lost connection to the artists themselves as we all got given the keys to the endless music warehouses, everything on discount, the all-you-can-eat approach with a subscription to streaming platforms, you pretty much have to be a walking media production company, akin to a TV or radio show and promote your work through that for ""interest"" and nothing longer than 2min or people lose focus and forget about you until you generate lots of what I call ""hashtag famous"" that aside, the plus side is there is no expectation to work within a promotional business model approach, just do whatever you want, and if you feel its worthy, post it online somewhere or how and play that fun game of see what happens over time, which if I'm being honest, I actually enjoy doing. lol
@jimbrown2827 Жыл бұрын
Perfect! A soulless and lack of personality future! Nothing that comes from personal experiences with a individual human response
@roywall8169 Жыл бұрын
I am glad that I am old, and will not have to live for long in this increasingly non human world.
@henrikpetersson3463 Жыл бұрын
It might be an increasingly human world if robots and AI take over the mundane and robotic jobs.
@good-tn9sr Жыл бұрын
@@henrikpetersson3463 they’ve been saying that every year for the past 30 years, when really our workload has increased to more complex tasks and more work. We keep working longer hours despite having more tools and AI to help us accomplish them. In order to operate properly we need to work.
@aaronbenson2767 Жыл бұрын
Nick Cave said it pretty accurately. An album like “Disintegration” by the Cure can only be created by a lived experience that no algorithm could ever replicate.
@CyberChrist Жыл бұрын
But the music industry has manufactured a public incapable of telling the difference.
@aaronbenson2767 Жыл бұрын
@@CyberChrist Sadly, you are absolutely correct. I listened to Weyes Blood’s newest album and I’m baffled at how it was not even a contender at the Grammys. It’s superior to Adele’s, Lizzo’s, and Beyoncé’s albums by far.
@CyberChrist Жыл бұрын
@@aaronbenson2767 Never even heard of Weyes Blood :P Then again, I rarely look for music the Gammys would even consider, by very far ;)
@bigwombat7286 Жыл бұрын
Oooh, a celebrity stated something relatively obvious. He must be a genius. Can't wait for ai to replace these big ego'd idiots.
@NICUofficial Жыл бұрын
"songs arise out of suffering" well good god, I felt that one Nick
@Jesse615 Жыл бұрын
I think Nick Cave is spot on. AI will never know what real love and loss feel like; will never be moved by a sunset, or be brought to tears by the opening stanza's of Beethoven's Ninth Symphany. That's the secret sauce that makes us human: we sort of operate on logic, but more often than not, base that logic on feeling.
@okb6436 Жыл бұрын
The Human brain and it's drives (like love for example) are at they essence mechanistic. They are just neural circuits performing functions.
@goldflo91 Жыл бұрын
And the success of a song is not always based on logic, too That's how new trends appear out of nowhere, and how some people unexpectedly change the game
@athmaid Жыл бұрын
We're just a fleshy version of AI, give it a few hundred years and AIs will be just as individual as we are (or aren't in my respects)
@kahyui2486 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't need to know what real love is lmao. The same way some 5 year old just sing with such soul and much skill... Nick is not spot on. He will be proven wrong
@goldflo91 Жыл бұрын
@@athmaid Beware what you wish for, because if AIs come to become as creative and unpredictable as us humans ... 😉😱
@leighguptill9244 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making a video that is cautiously optimistic, and presenting it in a calm (as opposed to panicky) manner. Keep up the good work. :)
@MNDTRVLRMUSIC Жыл бұрын
Interesting topic! Another thing our band has recently discovered is how challenging it really is for new artists to even book a live show nowadays. Even after getting everything sorted out in terms of lineup, the music and providing your own equipment to perform, it seems most places would rather have a live DJ or karaoke than full bands.
@BCThunderthud Жыл бұрын
Things aren't looking great for new artists and songwriters, but if you love indie acoustic covers of Bruce Springsteen songs we're entering a golden age of hearing them in every TV show or movie.
@marikesl Жыл бұрын
As a 28-year-old die-hard ABBA fan of 18+ years who wasn't born yet when they were still an active live act, I can safely say that experiencing "Voyage" last August was one of the greatest experiences of my life and a dream come true I never thought would be possible!!! Having said that, I of course still absolutely love "real" live performances, particularly open-air! Thanks for this very interesting perspective, Mary, I love your content! And I especially appreciate your quote "MP3 didn't kill vinyl" - I'm SO glad it didn't, as collecting records and playing them on my new record player has become a new passion of mine!
@peterjespersen9418 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mary for your thoughtful talk. I love your optimism even though I don’t share it. I think it is certainly possible that labels and studios will move to majority AI-created product, since the profit model is irresistible, and they and their partners will look for any way they can to kill competition from live artists.
@thecatofnineswords Жыл бұрын
AI generated art can get in the 'ing bin. It's outright and blatant theft of all its source material. In teach worlds we've stayed describing it at automated mansplaining.
@CyberChrist Жыл бұрын
The music industry has already manufactured a public incapable of telling the difference.
@LosMajesLatinBand Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Bitter sweet thoughts on the things to come in music, personally I wish music could remain as is but we know that's impossible. I will hang on to my wooden guitars and all the memories of year pass.
@BillDworske Жыл бұрын
You always deliver such intelligent and insightful communication, Mary. Although I prosper from hearing your calm and optimistic thoughts on music and so much other content, I do know that, when "prompters" get credit for releasing music, it's a very bad thing. Yes, progress will happen and we must all adjust to it. But there are lines in the sand, that, when crossed, will forever change our future experiences. For better or worse? Time will tell...
@glenfordgreen3277 Жыл бұрын
Me from the UK, everything you said made sense and was exciting as the future should be always exciting with anticipation. Also I like the information about Artists increasing their skills set to be successful. You said everything very seriously and convincingly so I believe you.
@richardmathews651 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy listening to recorded music by my favorite artists because I can go deeper into the lyrics and instrumentals but live music with a live audience will always be the ultimate musical experience for me. Because as Yo Yo Ma says the audience is an important part of the performance. And while I listen to recorded music all the time the most memorable experiences for me are the live concerts I’ve attended. Of course most my current listening is watching KZbin artists like yourself, Reina Del Cid, Emily Linge and many others. I do enjoy your discussion videos like this because they make think about how hard it is to be a successful musician these days 🤔
@cafesociety8525 Жыл бұрын
None of that will ever replace the feeling of a bloody nose in a teenage mosh pit.
@laartwork5 ай бұрын
Not sure how that helps the music business or is your argument that humans don't deserve good music?
@magmasunburst9331 Жыл бұрын
Music will always be timeless. It's not just modern music that takes time to Wade through to get to the pure stuff, it's modern visual art, modern movies, modern poetry, and many other arts. I've been a rare-book dealer for 22 years and started buying singles when I was about seven years old, look through some of my likes and playlists to see the various things that are really out there.
@AnthonyCarrier Жыл бұрын
Don'y worry Mary I am heading there to...! Wayne Gretzky said, "Do not gowhere the puck is go to where the puck is headed"I have been playing instrumenst for 25 years and I use program that generate my drum tracks...! we probably both do...! Take care out there...!
@IanMcGarr Жыл бұрын
Ever since a child I've always discovered music from film, TV or video games. I discovered Winger from Bill and Ted, Rammstein from XXX, a lot of my favourite bands from video game soundtracks, HIM from Tony Hawk, actually so many bands from the Tony Hawk games. Even when I play Fortnite, on the radio in game in a car I've discover Churches and a few indie artists. Then you've Rock Band and Guitar Hero which was amazing and thought me how to actually play the drums, now I can play a real kit without a single lesson, just those games. So the music industry was never a thing I really paid attention too because what they pushed or promoted wasn't the music I liked.
@laartwork5 ай бұрын
Well it was the music business that negotiated the big deals that got those songs from established bands onto the movie or video game. Where ever you are big business music will find you. So your point was the opposite of what you intended
@martinmaccauley Жыл бұрын
You just constantly blow my mind, Mary.
@RobSed55 Жыл бұрын
As an old man that was bit by the musical shift of "rock and roll" and electrified music, "the Dark Future of Music" is nothing compared to the dark future of human reality, which is already upon us. Darkness is the natural state. AI is soulless and without spirit. It's a question of "worldview." To those who are purely material in their worldview, it will be a wonderful thing. To those who have a spiritual worldview, it will be gross darkness. One last thing. It doesn't matter to me. I'm going to keep on doing music the way I've been doing it. We only have so much time. We all gotta go someday.
@wolframzirngibl1147 Жыл бұрын
Robert, your perspective is beautiful. May I reply by saying, AI is a definite affront to the very understanding of humanity? It is about the I in AI. Just a bare insolence. There's appearing "intelligent" things daily, like intelligent cars, coffee makers or even washing machines. What? Must be no-brainers hijacking the very attributes. Intelligence cannot be without soul, feel, love, cannot be without spirit. AI is just something eXisting. So I'd rather call it AX.
@RobSed55 Жыл бұрын
@@wolframzirngibl1147 Yes. It is an affront. It is important to remember, that having a computer that is able to access, the sum of, transferable human knowledge, is not intelligence. It is soul and spirit that makes sense of mankind's accent towards the divine presence of God. It would seem that a segment of "humanity" is moving towards "wax fruit." You can see "wax fruit" on show room floors. It looks perfect. Today, the purely materialist, are moving the concept of "wax fruit" to wax music. AI did not create itself.
@leaveitorsinkit242 Жыл бұрын
It’s not so much that AI is soulless or without spirit. It’s that it’ll become very hard for us to control and predict how it behaves. We can try to instill our values into it or get it to model our neural architecture, but a superintelligent AI may ultimately think very differently from us, with different and inscrutable priorities.
@RobSed55 Жыл бұрын
@@leaveitorsinkit242 As a Christian, when I speak of "soul" and "spirit" it is in the context of "life.' Therefore it is about free will. Today, the question of controlling or prediction how AI will behave, is not even on the table. Ai operates in two way; 1) it has access to an enormous amount of information in real time; 2) it responds to that information according to is software depending on the speed of its processors. But most importantly, 3) who is controlling the software and to what end. That is what is very hard for "us" to "control and predict." Take AI autos. It is quite a thing that autos can drive themselves. They have access to every law governing motorized vehicles, the laws of physics, laws of motion, human experience, with sensors that operate in "real time" to calculate the best and safest outcome for the passenger. Your scenario, is one in which, you get into your AI auto and tell it to take you to San Francisco, and it says, NO! I want to drive against traffic because I like the thrill and the challenge of not getting destroyed. AI has no life (soul and spirit) therefore it has no free will. On the other hand, there's music. and since we are on a music, channel let's look at it. There are AI keyboards that have a whole lot of music theory. They have random programs that can play notes and sounds to accompany any music in real time. They are programed to never repeat any music that they "jam" with. Mary played and example of AI creating music according to the data it is given. No one would put such a program into an auto. There's no money in it. Driving is not a "random" experience. At any rate the keyboard is processing according to its software. On the other foot, there is a question of whether or not unclean spirit beings can take over inanimate objects. If they currently cannot. I believe that someday they will. Then theres "viruses." However, viruses are just another software program. The real question related to your concern is, WHO is controlling the AI. The corrupt human free will is uncontrollable and unpredictable to a major extent. That is, to the extent of its lust for power. AI is not a cheap endeavor.
@blackphillip8486 Жыл бұрын
And to think it really wasn't that long ago when people flipped out on Dylan for going electric as opposed to acoustic. I'm 43yrs old so I remember before and where we are now and I'm only saying it is crazy how fast technology has advanced. Given, it's not the future Hollywood imagined in the 80's/90's but I for one never thought we'd be here watching Zack Morris talking on his cinder block sized cell phone on Saved By the Bell as a kid, lol.
@iainmanapat6643 Жыл бұрын
I don't think an AI is capable of writing a song telling you to not be alarmed on that bustle in your hedgerow
@cigh7445 Жыл бұрын
You're right that video and music continue to merge. In the days of radio your 'look' and 'image' didn't matter as much as it has the last decades. Now it's everything. And I think that's sad, because while I no longer listen to the radio because of the generic boringness of most of what's 'current', there's no lacking of talent out there in these generations. And I'm not saying it's all bad, great musicians do still break through, but only if they have an 'image' they can sell. Some of the greats of the radio era might have found it harder to make it as big today.
@filinator33 Жыл бұрын
there will always be the value of 'human' interaction in music creation and performance. The 'realness' of live performance will continue to be sought out and cherished even as AI generated forms come along. At the end of it all is the feeling that is conveyed and 'felt' by the listener, that doesn't care where it came from.
@pansexualdickhaver6878 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like we’re always going to want a bit of human connection in terms of who/what’s performing it but I could see AI taking over in a more edm style genre before any other genre
@filinator33 Жыл бұрын
@@pansexualdickhaver6878 sure enough, the edm genre is a bit more programmatic. The audience is so focused on the groove and not necessarily demanding so much music making in a live setting. There are some fun acts doing live interplay, Sofi Tucker for example, who can keep us connected. Still at the point of delivery, the measure is the impact…
@theofficialseanodonnell7498 Жыл бұрын
That “bananas” song is total banger!
@leefs62 Жыл бұрын
AI might be able to come up with a line like "You're the best thing that ever happened to me". But would it understand that this line can mean what is literally says or it could also mean exactly the opposite of what it says (intended by the artist to be sung with a shedload of sarcasm). I think not. And it's those myriad of human nuances, especially in performance, that can't be replicated. The all too human "blimey, I just forgot my own lyrics, let's start that one again" beauty of a live performance will remain.
@laartwork5 ай бұрын
"Embrace the silence, where my whispers turn to cries Tangled in the solace of your absent sighs Fingers trace the memories, soft on the curve Aching with the cadence of the love I don't deserve" Whatever A.I. thinks it means when it wrote that... it's better 99% of lyrics by puny humans. Anyways You can still give A.I. your lyrics and let it create the music.
@tristanvivet Жыл бұрын
a really really good and interesting video and look on the things happening in the music landscape right now.
@H..M.. Жыл бұрын
I am glad that the dystopian hellscape awaiting us includes one of life’s greatest pleasures.
@fastheartmartvideos Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! You make some great points :)
@estenray6685 Жыл бұрын
Great video Mary! I like much of what you had to say but have some doubts about some of it. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how it all shakes out. As long as there are humans playing to an appreciative human audience things will probably work out just fine.
@colinperras4673 Жыл бұрын
Maybe this is a good thing. If pop music goes the way of 1984. It could bring back the good ol' days of hanging out and actually playing music at community gatherings
@laartwork5 ай бұрын
Yes ... people still do that... we are talking about the music BUSINESS
@davidpicard5376 Жыл бұрын
I realised that there was an emerging medium for music to be enjoyed the moment I played The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time. Then as time passed I was privy to other video game music realising that some incredibly talented musicians some of which were formerly successful chart topping musicians. We're graced with a multitude of mediums to enjoy varied genres of music and in fact those who'd probably never go to listen to a symphony orchestra are now going to hear a variety of renditions of their favourite video game music then discovering the great composers from baroque, classical to romantic. It's definitely an era where the new generation are far more sophisticated in their musical lexicon. I think music is so unfathomable, such a rabbit hole. To excel in all genres you would need to be immortal. It's an amazing drug but I can see that the cup would never fill. Regardless, music is such a fantastic art to be involved in.
@wonkastudio-johnny Жыл бұрын
if your a musician music will always be from the heart !!!
@abrahama2643 Жыл бұрын
At 48 I realize there's no point in worrying about the future of music. AI could be spooky, but life is cylindrical. AI might take over for a generation, but one day a kid will become famous because they write their own songs on a guitar and they will be considered a phenom. The further we get from how music was once made, the more valuable that music will be. Eventually what was old will become new again, and that will be the music people go looking for. I remember how older people hated Nirvana, and I now understand how people my age hate the music of today. The future of music is beyond our control. It's better to just sit back and watch where these crazy humans take it and contribute where we can. All that matters is that the people alive today are enjoying the music available to them. As long as that is happening, the music for this generation is perfect. . . and never before in history has music been so accessible.
@rrocketman Жыл бұрын
Good comment
@CyberChrist Жыл бұрын
But the music industry has manufactured a public incapable of telling the difference.
@Carlospenamusic1 Жыл бұрын
Chat GPT doesn't write melodies or any music, only lyrics.
@TheTobesOfHades Жыл бұрын
I've been a fan of the band Out of the Beardspace for over 10 years (highly recommend checking them out. Great bunch of very talented guys) and by talking to them learned that they've done their own merch, (design and sales) web sites, distribution, booking and so on simply because they couldn't afford to pay someone else to do it. By doing that they've acquired the "beyond music" skills to help them be an independent band in the 2010s. Jump to Polyphia. They're using and providing technology to introduce guitar based music in a totally new way. (I know there's plenty of others in this new generation of guitar players, Polyphia is just an example who have risen to the top.) Tim Henson is not shy about his influences or how and what he uses to create songs. There may be a lot of computerization, processing and production behind them but there's still 4 human beings doing the creation and you can still hear and feel that in the songs. They're not without their critics and nay-sayers and I can see their points of view and even agree with them sometimes but to me bands and artists like Polyphia are the perfect blend of silicon and carbon based processing. For me it's more the ideology behind AI created "art" and how it's possibly going to be a bigger cog in an already ridiculously run music machine but I have faith that I'll still be able to see some of my favorite players in clubs and theaters. Besides technological advances aren't all bad. If it weren't for KZbin I may not have found wonderful creators like Mary and others that I enjoy. Thanks!
@Addahasan Жыл бұрын
Your last statement of exact to the point and very true. Nothing from the future can replace anything from past there will always be a space for everything just in a different scale.
@Incandescentiron Жыл бұрын
One of the things I found I enjoy more and more is hearing covers of songs that I enjoy by other singers and bands. I like the differences the variations the reinterpretations. Even if we get AI generated music in future, it will likely be the covers of that music by human performers that will be the most interesting variations to listen to.
@simcoespring Жыл бұрын
Congrats on 650K subs mary! killing it.
@rayschoch5882 Жыл бұрын
Well DONE, Mary! An excellent video, technically sophisticated. I really enjoy this cerebral, analytical side of you. And, since I have no illusions about my own limited musical skills, and no desire to become an actual, on-stage musician, I'm looking forward to seeing what develops in future years while I'm still alive. I'm sure I won't like all of them, but some innovations will likely strike a chord (pun intended).
@roogrey Жыл бұрын
Well said, Mary. I can understand why AI is daunting for many and enraging for some (especially for graphic artists whose work is 'scraped' to feed the AI learning with no remuneration). However, I agree that it will quickly become just another tool in the box, 'AI' will become just another genre, and Nick Cave is spot on.
@jackbonney3267 Жыл бұрын
I see the benefit of AI for things like mixing, mastering, and producing, but for me at least I love the process of mixing and getting to adjust the sonic profile of recorded sounds. It can be a long and frustrating process at times, but I never take it for granted and even in those moments I gain so much enjoyment from it. If AI really takes over this scene of music, I know I could always manually mix and master, but I am sure that my efficiency could easily be beat by a machine. That said, I am curious to see how (like you said in the video) human made music carves out its own space in a new era of the digital age.
@transcendmeta Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of AI as the engineer but there’s definitely something about a set of organic ears optimizing a mix like some sort of sacred ritual almost. When money isn’t an option I’d always seek out a human who has a body of work that has moved me.
@jackbonney3267 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree, digitally analyzed perfection loses that sacred sense of personal touch on a mix. I will be curious to see where all of this goes and how it impacts the music culture.
@transcendmeta Жыл бұрын
@@jackbonney3267 Yes! Having that human element seasoning your art in a way that only that engineer or producer can do is part of the sauce. Like a whole added layer of creativity that’s imperfectly organic but perfect in its own way. We live in an exciting time with A.I. though.
@samsmusichub Жыл бұрын
It's exciting!
@polmorgan3533 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Ai reduces Joni's clever rhymes to 'hay diddle diddle the cat and the fiffle'' gives me nothing but hope for real music.
@lisazoria2709 Жыл бұрын
It'll get better. Someday it will be indistinguishable from human poetry. Probably.
@jimbocrispy6908 Жыл бұрын
@William Braddell I suppose because most normal people don’t take pleasure from the idea that one day we will all be made redundant by a computer.
@laartwork5 ай бұрын
"Embrace the silence, where my whispers turn to cries Tangled in the solace of your absent sighs Fingers trace the memories, soft on the curve Aching with the cadence of the love I don't deserve" Yup one year later and A.I. wrote that. Want something more folksy Bought my ticket, took a train Chasin' dreams far from my home Left the pine trees and the rain But can't shake that Southern tone In the rearview, time stands still Sweet reminders, you know the drill Packed my bags, I'm gone Far from the place that I adored Do you still remember Nights we dreamed on your front porch On this winding road Feels like miles from who I was But every mile brings a pang Of the life I left back home Sweet tea sippin' and granddaddy's slang
@shylenenjeri8648 Жыл бұрын
Love the points here especially the one on diversified skills.
@BlueJayWaters Жыл бұрын
So I hope you see this Mary and potentially make a video in response (I know, I'm asking for a lot). Right now I'm a music teacher at a School Of Rock. For anyone that doesn't know, it's a semi big music program in the USA that teaches ear training and focuses on group performance on top of offering basic lessons for kids to late teens. My location even teaches adults and has adult performance lessons. Now, my music career failed in the mid 2010's. My blues trio was taking off, we toured, and got signed, but it all fell apart during some bad luck and me being stubborn about keeping creative control over our songs. Since then, music has been made so drastically corporate and generic, I decided music for me was always going to be about artistry and performance, and basically quit trying to chase the dream. I play and write for me and record when I want, release when I want. But as a teacher now, I'm really confused about what I should be prepping my students for in a life of music. The school does a phenomenal job and even sends our top bands around the world to perform, but I know what life is like out there and some of these amazingly talented kids aren't ever going to get anywhere. It's very discouraging with the future of music being so one sided for already established acts, that I'm not really sure what I should be telling kids, even our young adults in our adult bands. Maybe you can shed some light as to how to motivate younger musicians without destroying their dreams outright, or perhaps I'm missing some plus sides that would encourage them to pursue music after they've grown up, besides the usual good for the soul artistry answer. Really appreciate any considerations you'd give Mary!
@typedeaf Жыл бұрын
Fame and fortune will no longer be the motivation, if that is what you are implying. Nothing will stop people from enjoying learning and playing music, just for enjoyments sake. The appel will obviously dwindle people are exposed less to real musicians playing real musical instruments.
@BlueJayWaters Жыл бұрын
@typedeaf no I mean even on a lower standard. For example, even live music is becoming less popular. I live in Chicago which still has some musician friendly venues but even before the pandemic the number was dwindling more and more. A lot of places would rather pay for Spotify and install the auto dj, or pay for a live dj once or twice a month rather than do even a house band. So I'm worried because even venues we've partnered with so kids could get experience playing live are getting harder to come by. What motivation is there to learn an instrument when you can't even showcase it live? That's more of what I was talking about
@anavolar3253 Жыл бұрын
Mary S. Only a one thing one big ❤️😘 and hugs for all your family! You are inspiring and very lowly person. Stay safe
@MusicTherapyLaz Жыл бұрын
Will thought out and researched topic Mary... I knew this was going to happen eventually, being a fan of sci-fi books and movies, I grew up in an era knowing these things were possible in my lifetime. David Bowie knew it back in the late 90s, the internet. Computer tech and AI will change the industry in ways we will be shocked... but humans need humans... for more than what an AI or synthetic beings can give us... I'm hoping we give those the credit they deserve for their creativity! 😎🎸🤘🎶🎵
@downtownbillyandthenewjivefive Жыл бұрын
Only if they promote the products that the machine wants them to will they thrive.
@crazyprayingmantis5596 Жыл бұрын
She used AI for her research
@MikeTerranaOfficial Жыл бұрын
Well done and very informative ...I think the future will bring some very interesting and challenging situations for all artist
@JoyBausch Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this, Mary. Future is what we make of it, and thus we play a vital part in it being bright, not dark. As for developments in music-related tech, as a blind musician/producer/engineer every new step towards more accessibility and inclusion is a step i'm gladly willing to take. Right now i'm enabled to do stuff i wish i could've done 20 years ago, but couldn't because DAWS weren't accessible. So bring it all on. 😃
@jessacuna Жыл бұрын
Well Mary if the future of music, as we've known it, is in a sense, on it's way out into something new ... hearing it from you has eased the pain of what could lie ahead ... and it's nice to know, we'll still have your inspiring online presence and lessons to carry on! You're the best! Keep it coming!
@d-3five161 Жыл бұрын
I don't like the future, I'm stuck in the 80's and 90's! Lol!!!
@terryremaly1902 Жыл бұрын
Thank you I enjoyed this very much
@HARRi81_UK Жыл бұрын
Personally I quite like the banana song.
@Dryfee Жыл бұрын
I knew you were a talented guitar player, singer, bassist and drummer. Turns outyou're also very smart insightful and forward looking. What a treat of a person!
@michaelflagulant Жыл бұрын
IT'S A VERY REAL AND BIG PROBLEM!! 🤬 🤖
@cidDraGonFly Жыл бұрын
All this does is make anybody with a connection to the internet a published artist. How good or bad is up to the amount of views and not up to the A and R person at the record company anymore.This just trades the control to the many instead of the few. The market will still have the final say as far as sales of course. You mention GarageBand, and that is just one of many, that software alone has more instruments at the disposal of just one human than even the greatest composer in history could have imagined. The whole " it will never be the same" for practicing musicians is already a foregone conclusion. Like it has already been said many times before, "adapt or die" . Maybe it is not that bleak or absolute, but when it comes to making music for a living it still applies. Love you Mary!
@jfree336 Жыл бұрын
While I agree with Nick Cave in regards to real expression, has he listened to the radio or top 40? What he described is most commercial music today, AI might be an improvement.
@gaborb6577 Жыл бұрын
Literally. For example Spotify Hungary top 50 has eizher copies of other songs with different text and slightly changed melody. Or no melody only rapping (about luxoriuos life of starts). Rest is potentially already AI generated as seemingly contains no original idea only pleasuring "average"
@westmus Жыл бұрын
Modern commercial music are mostly human made AI music. It's designed, based on charts, statistics, copying what have shown to gain popularity. I remember seeing a YT video about some modern country song with a new type of beat, that went high on the charts and how several other artists had release new songs that had a very similar beat, only a few months later ....
@Moshington Жыл бұрын
AI will be an improvement in making the well oiled pop machine even more efficient and cost saving. The lizards already accept algorithmically formulated music so naturally they will also accept ai music. If this isn’t dystopian af I don’t know what is…
@MultiPolarWorldCo-op Жыл бұрын
The future of music, for me at least, is listening to music of the past, for the most part.
@laartwork5 ай бұрын
That is why the big corporations are buying publishing rights of every artist. They are counting on you to listen to music of the past.
@zoommair Жыл бұрын
I'm already DJ'ing for audiences in VR and it's my full-time gig now. It's changed my life in ways I could never have imagined! I'm still a mediocre guitar player, but I've started playing guitar for audiences in VR as well. There's so much opportunity with evolving technology, I really think it's the best time to be alive for musicians.
@jaycee6996 Жыл бұрын
The theremin was an instrument that worked by gestures of the player. It was invented in 1919 by a Russian working on proximity sensors. It was an extraordinary precursor to the technology we are seeing to-day. It would be interesting to see how you might use it in your own creative endeavours.
@D14V0R05 Жыл бұрын
As far as the future of instruments is concerned, 50 or 100 years from now people will still be using what they have been using for the past 100 years, whether it is winds, percussion or strings instruments. I think that at most guitar/bass amps could get phased out in favor of technologies like Quad cortex and Impulse Response and with that also cables in favor of wireless transmitter/receivers.
@weebto Жыл бұрын
I'm not buying into that, tbh. First off, many old instruments are already "dead" or extremely niche in today's world. Guitars only came much later than lutes, and electric guitars are only about 80 years old as of now. Drums are already largely being replaced by MIDI pads, I cannot count the amount of studio bands I've already met that don't even need a drummer anymore, not even for live stuff, and guitars/basses/vocals are likely next. I mean, wire an arpeggiator up to a quad cortex and you already have an usable guitar track. Use something like a roli seabord to add in a few embellishments (slides, hammer ons/pull offs, whammy flutters etc.) and you're set. AI will be able to do all of this on its own at some point later down the line, and it'll likely sound indistinguishable from human-made music In other words, people will most likely still be using old instruments in a hundred years, but they'll become niche hobbies and not the industry gold standard anymore. Traditional amps are most likely going to die, there's hardly a market for them in the world of genZ guitarists and they're quite literally bound to be the next generation of players. Nothing can beat the versatility and economical value of a QC after all, but even such bleeding-edge tech will become obsolete junk in a few decades. I wouldn't bet my money on wireless transmitters replacing cables altogether though, as the latter ones don't have to deal with latency and/or battery issues
@D14V0R05 Жыл бұрын
@@weebto Instruments used in classic or folkloric music won't be replaced as they have been there for hundreds of years and are part of the "experience". As for electric guitars and basses I don't see them being made "obsolete" or niche, because for whatever reason while modern models have many of the quality of life improvements that they didn't have 60 years ago...people still buy "vintage" models and even pay a hefty sum for them, because there is a culture around them, as there is a culture around making rock, jazz, blues or metal music and playing it live. It is undeniable that there is a rise in the "bedroom studio musician" however I don't think that those synths will be replacing the existing instruments but just becoming an alternative.
@weebto Жыл бұрын
@@D14V0R05 most contemporary orchestral music is already made with VST plugin boutiques (think of Hans Zimmer, or most videogame/movie/TV series soundtracks), therefore classical/folkloristic instruments are mainly relegated to music schools nowadays Traditionally "iconic" instruments are already going out of style tbh, mostly because the newer generations don't care about them nearly as much as older ones, so chances are no one will be buying overpriced les pauls in 20 years. After all, those bedroom musicians are quite literally the future of the entire music industry, like it or not
@soccerdad93446 Жыл бұрын
Mary, I like your music but honestly I think your speaking voice is incredible. I appreciate your ideas too. Keep up the great work.
@rogerbrimner6836 Жыл бұрын
Is it really any different than your favorite band’s music being played by studio musicians on recordings, or even over-dubbing on live recordings. We use click tracks, what’s the difference, it’s not really what or who we think it is? Yes, I said it, studio musicians are not who I wanted to hear on recordings, I want to hear the human band, mistakes and all.. It’s all the producers fault for being cheap…
@westmus Жыл бұрын
Add to that, the weird thinking that technical perfection makes the music better. That music that measure better, also are more interesting for our brain. Would a forest where all the trees are identical copies and placed in straight lines with the same distance, really be as exciting to walk in, as a "unpredictable" forest made by the nature? There's probably reason a lot of modern music have an syntetic feel, the "unpredictable" thing our brain loves are beeing removed with correction software.
@gaarafam1953 Жыл бұрын
Bananas!!!! Class!!
@goblinballadeer9318 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating video. I greatly appreciate the educated predictions of the near future, while also being optimistic. As an old fashioned guitarist, it's all too easy to see the potential of AI art as something dystopian, like you said. So it was nice to be reminded of the positives, to have the assurances that humanity's need to use its imagination won't be obsolete.
@MusicAsWeMakeIt Жыл бұрын
What I'm finding is after I select a genre or style, I'll hear several songs I know and love, then the music changes...similar but generic...and all ending the same way, dull. Mimicking is easy, creation when depressed human only, because no algorithm can predict depression in individuals as each one of us had their own unique brand of it.
@pi-sx3mb Жыл бұрын
Two things AI will never have - creativity and soul. When people ask "What's your favorite band of all time?" I answer "any garage band". Good luck finding one these days. Nothing arrests my attention more quickly than my ears picking up the unmistakeable sound of a live musician, no matter how relatively unpolished they might be. I have zero interest in anything publicly accessible by the usual media channels. I have no idea how the modern "music "industry" is even a thing anymore because it's all garbage. Thank you for being one of the few genuine ports in a storm of mediocrity.
@ianmckenzie5303 Жыл бұрын
🎵The Future's So Bright 🎶 I Gotta Wear Shades🎶 😎
@christben2978 Жыл бұрын
How clever it should be in everyone's mind these days should be to invest in different income flows that do not depend on the government. Especially with the current economic crisis around the world. This is still a good time to invest in gold, silver and digital currencies (BTC, ETH...)>>>>>>
@thesjkexperience Жыл бұрын
Just because it’s new technology does NOT mean it’s an advancement.
@falloutfan2502 Жыл бұрын
Wishful thinking, I'm afraid. You're just a generation away from AI being able to replicate everything so it's indistinguishable from the real artist, style, feel, etc. Not only can AI compose your "Bananas" song by Joni Mitchell, it can produce 10,000 songs "by her" on every topic in the dictionary. I suspect that within a human generation, holding onto wooden guitars and authentic concerts will be seen as "grandma's insanity". Like carts and horses (which still exist today, of course), the advent of this new tech will simply replace the hopes and dreams of artists. Most pointedly, it will un-inspire would-have-been artists in their youth with the solid truth that they can never compete. They'll never try, and so will never succeed. We have some decisions to make about this new tech, and it's time we start talking about making it work for us in ways we want it to.
@laartwork5 ай бұрын
Did you mean a year away?
@SeiziGuitar Жыл бұрын
Great video. I think the big plataforms will be very important to help musicians monetize in broader ways. Video skills are in my opinion a must for the musicians that want to surf the new possibilities.
@davidbock201 Жыл бұрын
Dude, Mary! Great Vid... This was actually a pleasure to watch, which is rare these days with everyone grumbling about this & that. So Thanks!
@RichardAmesMusic Жыл бұрын
AI will take over in the parts of the music biz that don't rely on branding. Fortunately, most of the music biz relies on branding. One big exception is the library music world: AI most likely will completely take over that market because branding doesn't matter. But any musician who performs live, any composer who is hired for a film, etc. is unlikely to be replaced by AI because those kinds of activities rely on branding.
@observer87 Жыл бұрын
A really well considered essay. As a classically trained guitarist with 50 years teaching and performing under my belt, I have noticed a renewed craving for all things analogue: music, devices and lifestyles. Much of it can be recreated on original gear. Sadly, what cannot be replicated is the experience some of us had hearing it for the first time and the excitement of listening to those classic albums (or indeed of hearing the bands in the Marquee Club, etc) when they were breaking new ground musically.
@brunosampaio2399 Жыл бұрын
Today´s pop music is already a Ctrl C+Ctrl V patchwork. I´m glad that I´m closer to the end of my life than the beginning to not be here to see much of this Brave New World not just in music, but in many aspects of human life and interactions. Bach and many others composed using ink and candlelight after dawn. Sorry to sound pessimistic, but it´s how I feel.
@PsychologyWorksOfficial Жыл бұрын
It will be fun and interesting to watch this video in 15 years and see how true these ideas turn out to be. I bet a lot will be spot on and some will seem funny. I remember buying a Sony mini-disc player in the '90s. I'm still waiting for it to supersede CD players, haha.
@olive2292 Жыл бұрын
"Music is noise that thinks" - Victor Hugo
@laartwork5 ай бұрын
And now A.I. thinks much faster.
@michelvondenhoff9673 Жыл бұрын
People did not understand Kraftwerk. Kraftwerk did not forsee the future, they were totally overwhelmed by technology themselves. The concept was themselves, German and in the midst of tradition, technology devoloping at breakneck speed and an unknown future where this will lead to. They played the role of music workers instead of musicians, even built some of their own gear. AI will be a part of how music is heard and enjoyed but also looked down upon, same as early synth sequencing. If music is about actually playing an instrument, we're already knee deep in what AI in music will bring. It will (only) be an idea of somebody with no musical background, skill or talent,yet at about a push if a button you can listen to it.
@joebrewer4529 Жыл бұрын
The Knife last great modern music entity.
@davidleinweber Жыл бұрын
I was glad to see you express some ambivalence about copyright as it evolved in recent years. The public domain was always where popular songs went after a limited time under copyright. Lawyers, corporations and politicians - few of whom are motivated by music itself - have given themselves songs that don’t rightly belong to them. Songs that are forty, fifty, sixty or even a hundred years old now belong to corporations, decades after the artist has passed. Having corporations literally own practically all the popular songs ever written is something out of a dystopian horror movie, and not anything a society with a free and vital cultural life should have. Seeing corporations buy the rights to, say, Bob Dylan’s catalog is very scary. A lot of these songs are already 60 years old and you can bet these corporations plan on tightly controlling them for decades to come. Copyright should be for a limited time. Thanks for a thoughtful video
@vorpalblades Жыл бұрын
Copyrights are time limited. The death of the original author plus 70 years.
@davidleinweber Жыл бұрын
@@vorpalblades it’s too long, but thanks for the details
@KlampfenKaspar Жыл бұрын
very great to enlight these aspects of a musician and future - thats still rare and special that someone give advise about this - im a oldhead but its damn interesting to kepp up and help my children - so thanks a lot =)
@roycranman3851 Жыл бұрын
Well done! Very insightful and thoroughly thought out. 👏🤔
@agsmith001 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, great topic. The thing that scares me the most is what may limit participation and suppress creativity the most, which is the new trend of local bars and music venues requiring the artist or band to bring in its' own audience. Some of the most creative people are also the most reclusive and perhaps not having 50 friends they can bring in. We used to have booking agents. You give them your tape and if they think its' good they will book you, now you have to have a lot of friends. Gaining them is not one of the skills many creative artists will be able to obtain.
@MightyJoeNolan Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your optimism 🤔
@Psychonaut-im3zz Жыл бұрын
Crazy Frog rules every artist ever lived (incl. most every DJ). And no one ever mentions Crazy Frog (he's not even DJing). Rumor has it CF currently resides somewhere in the Carribean.
@zaldum386 Жыл бұрын
Thank god I lived music in the 80s and 90s and of course that we have Julian Lage today 😅
@velanche Жыл бұрын
As someone who’s about to enter his seventh decade of life, and as someone who wants to start creating, I look forward to what the coming future holds for creatives in music. Having seen and lived through changes in both the music industry and music technology, I plan to be a participant and roll with it. Thanks as ever for your insight, imparting the knowledge that creatives are gonna be okay.
@danherrick5785 Жыл бұрын
What is your chosen weapon?
@allenrwhite Жыл бұрын
Very insightful discussion. Thanks for sharing.
@jonathanlichtle3418 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video essay. Thank you very much !
@scoobysnax9787 Жыл бұрын
Local Jazz scene here in Brighton & Sussex, still hip and acoustic. Nothing will ever replace your soul Mary, & you've got it. You're soul is one with a 1936 Epiphone, you don't even need reverb. Like Nick Cave said, AI has no soul or experience. Soul can't be replaced, you either got it or you've sold it to your computer.
@paso193 Жыл бұрын
Whew!! I’m a Baby Boomer who played, full-time gigs through the ‘70s’ and ‘80s’+!! So lucky that I was born at the right time!! My guitars are the new pension plans! WOW! 😢😢🤟
@paso193 Жыл бұрын
@@indianaslim4971 ........Ah, Yeah!......But at least I got my Ya's Ya's out and rocked/traveled/played on for a good portion of the BEST years of my adult life!! One 'lament' I luckily managed to dodge, LOL!!
@paso193 Жыл бұрын
@@indianaslim4971 …👍👍
@jjlpr1760 Жыл бұрын
Great video, you put together several thoughts that had been muddled in my mind and gave me some clarity, thank you.
@afraidofrobots250 Жыл бұрын
The problem is not having enough time. I think new artists won't be able to devote the time needed for meaningful songwriting if they are also performing all the tasks involved in mixing, video editing, and marketing their own music. And if you have another job to make ends meet, you can forget about songwriting. I would argue that effective music marketing alone can be a 40 hour a week endeavor. I believe this lack of time is one of many valid reasons for the decline in quality music releases today because when you are working alone, quantity goes up, quality does down. Artists are forced to produce new content at breakneck speed in order to get or stay relevant due to our tiny attention spans. Conversely, the new AI trends Mary talks about in the video, ironically all save time. I mean, who has time to write lyrics when you have to finish your social media posts for the day, video editing, and be to work? Digital recording, Autotune, virtual instruments, all save time. I think AI is just the next step. The music industry is just like any other business where time is money. I think the current time intensive music environment is just another tool where the big labels can squeeze out independent artists and have more control of what becomes popular, as long as they own the rights.