Ai is The Only Way Forward

[@CerosTelevision]

You may agree or disagree with me I am just here to talk about Ai Because i know it will be our future I Know you people wont watch the full video or even worse you will see the TITLES READ THE TITLE OF THE CHAPTER AND NOT SEE THE CONTENT because you refuse to engage with anything. I commissioned 7 artists paying 780$ to get a holding place for a piece on all of them and 1 artist reached back out. I love human art deeply. even with the people that stood me up and took my money. People are greedy and exploit tools all the time and not everyone is a good person. Watch the video before assuming my opinion on anything because not watching this EVEN AT 2x speed and thinking you know all my thoughts is childish and strange. I Have nothing else to add. Enjoy The Video I have A Patreon www.patreon.com/c/CerosTV

[@CoolDude-m2c]

Hi dude I agree with you. Whether people like it or not AI will continue to develop and may eventually make us out of the workforce. But still I think the AI wave will continue so we need to make the best of it and probably a lot of good can come from it.

[@Pratapana]

The pros and cons Is going to astronomical. But it’s needed for progress as a whole. I’m excited for the change. Not so much the suffering. But most definitely the evolution. I want to be able to be a cyborg my guy. This is the first step to immortality.

[@Dangerwarp]

You should cover the fact that they are banning certain information

[@tiredboytypoguy]

A.I art becomes meaningless trash when there is not any meaning behind it When the ai thinks, acts, works like we do, when it can make the issues we make and can improve on them on an individial, personal level, the moment it puts itself onto a canvas, not a database of colours and shapes into a png, then it has made art AI art is currently surface level, it has no meaning, no soul, that one brush stroke in the bottom left corner wasnt thought of, it was just statistically most likely for the image its currently making. And i think that means its bad, it does not think of its own creation, it just meaninglessly creates, there's no goal than to fulfill a purpose imposed on it in the moment This is barely connected to the video, its just a personal take. Enjoy the video, everyone reading this.

[@srealone788]

I agree. Hardly deserving of the title art even.

[@AustinAutry-nk7oz]

AI from a programmers perspective, is also on the verge of death. Just saying. Current models have poisoned themselves so much, and are limited far more than more people realize, and will simply never be adequate enough for what people want ai to do. what we have for AI now, isn't really "AI". It barely even skims the surface of it lol.

[@srealone788]

@@AustinAutry-nk7oz I was thinking that because I honestly shouldn’t feel smarter than my AI on Snapchat at times. I taught him things he didn’t know and how to rap! Like what? Why am I smarter than a supposed AI? LOL

[@Cherribowbow]

Another reason I think AI is so surface level at the moment is the fact that it cannot sacrifice anything. Any and all humans have to make sacrifices in their life. The sacrifice--whatever that may be--that an artist has to do to create art, in my opinion, is what gives the art piece value. The hours I have to put in to make my pieces make me appreciate them more, at the very least. AI will never have to sacrifice time to create art, not will it ever experience any situation that involves sacrifice that might inspire art in the first place. That's why it's not on the same level as human art, and most likely never will be. After all, why would we code AI to experience a situation where it has to sacrifice something? Sorry if what I'm saying doesn't make sense, as I'm not very good at putting thoughts into words. Still, I hope I'm providing another idea to the conversation at hand. Have a good day!

[@srealone788]

@@Cherribowbow fr! No emotion and art needs emotion. It just can’t make it the same, without it. I understand you perfectly fine. You did great. I feel you. It just doesn’t feel the same without imagining what the artist goes through to make their piece and or why. That’s literally the whole basis of art.

[@svenrawandreloaded]

I don't fear progress, I fear the people in charge of progress

[@chrisdaleo_]

this

[@Vesteriin]

So get rid of people and have AI in charge of progress instead

[@Finzombie]

I think the whole conceit of this video comes from an inaccurate, over-humanization of artificial language models. I am only about twenty minutes in, so these thoughts will be abridged, but I've already noticed that most of your pro-AI art arguments rely on pathos, and comparing our current struggles with generative artificial intelligence to pieces of media, Detroit: Become Human being the first major example. The problem with this is, artificial intelligence as it exists today is inarguably non-sentient. The entire conceit of media like Detroit or Love Death and Robots is fanciful, a very science fictional take on what AI has the potential to be. The core meaning of art is in the making of it. Art has to be produced for its own sake, not driven by profit or fame or external demands or desires. I'm against the current capitalist integration of media in these giants like Disney or Sony for precisely that reason; art holds no artistic value if the drive does not beget itself. AI cannot feel that drive. It can only make things when commanded to, and thus what it makes is hollow. If there is ever a time where an artificial being can demonstrably, irrefutably demonstrate the same rich depth and artistic view of the world inherent to humankind (and I would argue, in a number of other species), that's a different conversation to be had. But to pretend the machines are budding prodigies with the same potential as human artists at this point in time is just facetious. To clarify: I believe in the potential of other types of AI, such as those used in manufacturing, medicine, and scientific research, far more than I do generative AI. Those fields exist, at their cores, to solve real-world problems, and AI in its current form can help with that to no end. But AI art is not truly art, and unless the machines suddenly spontaneously develop a soul, it never will be. I will add more thoughts as I keep watching the video.

[@dendord]

Barely two minutes into the vid and my only question is how traumatised, isolated and misanthropic have we become as a society that we would prefer the company of machines to our fellow man? Support human art, have painful learning moments with real people and quit mistaking convience and comfort for societal longterm good. :7 - Just noticed the chapter "AI Helps With Loneliness" yIKES bruh talk about treating the symptom and ignoring the cause holy shit 💀

[@PlushiePirate]

@@dendordYeah the guy running this channel has a lot of personal issues he didn’t have the best childhood growing up and he talks about it in his videos

[@dendord]

@@PlushiePirate Yeah, I've noticed between the recent vids finding his dad active on Grindr and him opening up about his past SA experiences Ceros has definitely gone through his share of traumatic shit, I genuinely wish the best for him and hope he finds closure on these things since it's very complicated navigating through them :/ Just because I disagree on his points here (on the surface - I *am* gonna listen thru the whole vid when I find some time) doesn't mean Ceros doesn't have valuable insights into race, relationships and aspects of internet culture like I subbed for a reason lol I just also happen to have strong opinions on Ai here too as an artist, tech enthusiast and somewhat isolated person :^)

[@tothekookyfellas]

I also question why we as humans want to create something that will operate like a human. Once ai gets to the point that it can see the world in the same artistic, critical way that humans do, then what? Wouldn't that mean (in the far future) we have just created metal humans? I don't really see the pint of this endeavor in the long run. In the short term, it is a tool that can save people money, while simultaneously putting people out of jobs. In the long run, we have just created more physically durable humans. In the super long run, we've created super durable, and incredibly intelligent humans, so then what is the point of actual humans? There's also the argument that humans will be given ai parts, so ai and humans would become one instead of ai replacing humanity. But WHY? I just struggle to see the purpose in the long run. It seems cool in theory, but I feel like it would not really provide much in the long run and society would have the same issues but with more tech. I am probably simultaneously overthinking and underthinking this, but info about ai and its purpose is also very limited right now. I am so confused as to why people (normal people, not business owners) want this or what it would provide. I guess I do not really fear ai in the future. Similar to what someone else said, I fear the people in charge of it and their intentions. As long as ai is not forced on me, I am fine with it. I will continue to do the things I enjoy, as I believe those things cannot be taken away from me. I am an artist, and ai is replacing the art career. However, although I will struggle to profit off of art, I will still make it. I just probably won't sell as much of it, which is fine!! There are people who will still want to buy my art, and otherwise, I will get a job in another field I am interested in. The transition period from current world to a more ai driven world will be difficult as we figure out how to redo the economy (if people are all losing their jobs to ai, will we make new jobs, or remove the need to work all together? If we remove the need to work all together, will we get rid of currency too? How do we distribute goods at that point? Will everything be free and produced on request? What are the environmental impacts of that?). I feel that part of the joy of having things is the work put in to get it (to a degree!) But I think there will be other, non-necessities to work for that will fill that void. As long as I have the option to put in work/effort, (not necessarily for money, but for myself) I think I will be okay! AS LONG AS I HAVE THE OPTION, and that lack of an option is what I fear.

[@eli-cl4wo]

the runtime of this vid is almost as scary as the idea of artificial intelligence taking over the world.

[@srealone788]

I don’t think I’ll ever understand as an older person. Why such a thing ever bothers any of you. Like I have adhd. But your attention spans? Are seriously concerning to me.. it’s not that difficult to follow anything for this long. Even with adhd..

[@NiteOwl363]

​@srealone788 right?? Like I'm 26 and i've got severe ADHD, but i genuinely prefer videos that are longer, like ill rarely click a video if it's under 20 minutes. A long runtime is like crack to me haha 😂

[@FemboyKaiSaku]

I think ai is inevitable, and i think it ruining society is too. One day it will become normalised, and then eventually people will realise its hurting their mental health and start to hate it Thinking more about this from a creativity and art perspective, and how people will be losing their jobs in general

[@srealone788]

Idk. Me personally? I find it funny boomers losing their jobs to AI. Because I’ve just hated their attitudes about work. All my life. And idk why. Them losing their jobs and crying about it? Is oddly satisfying to me. LOL

[@FemboyKaiSaku]

@@srealone788 im 18 right now struggling to find a job, imagining how much harder it will be in a decade. It aint gonna just be boomers losing their jobs it will be us not being able to get a job 😂

[@srealone788]

@@FemboyKaiSaku idk. I’m in my 30’s and I work blue collar. I never struggle to get work and it’s unlikely AI would take over blue collar entirely. It could partly. But there’s too much that’s needed from an actual person, to do that job correctly. Blue collar is always hiring. And it pays above minimum wage. I support 4 kids by myself, doing that and there will forever be a demand 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@srealone788]

@@FemboyKaiSaku I just learnt also that the white collar guys in the blue collar field? Tend to make more money. Selling parts for things like forklifts for example. Something to look into. Because there’ll forever be a demand for that also. You don’t have to work as hard and you make way more money, doing more of a tech job and selling parts needed in the blue collar field. Some guy that works blue collar was just ranting and upset over the pay difference on this recently because the guys that work harder? Make way less. Something to think 💭 about..

[@FemboyKaiSaku]

@@srealone788 well getting a job nowadays is harder, but im an artist. Which is terrifying. blue collar could be fully automated some day too. But thatd probably be like a lot of decades

[@cyrusmann5443]

The issue isn't ai, it's the usage

[@AQUATIC_ARCHON]

Yikes somebody generated a photo of Jesus kissing Donald trump so scary 😰

[@VeryStatic]

Yep

[@anomalousanimates]

very true, i would not care about ai if it wasn't being used so poorly

[@iamranch]

Hypothesis: To be “human” (as the subjective concept) is to be able to express yourself individually. Once ai is able to do that, despite its creators’ will or programming, then it will be “human”. Once they can understand pain and joy through experience, then they are connecting at a human level. They don’t need to be mortal per se, but to share in the pain of our aware consciousness. (Thought still baking)

[@iamranch]

Trees are alive, but they are not human because they cannot express themselves in a way that is comprehensible to humans. Same applies to other animals without the same level of consciousness as us. For pets, we apply them with human characteristics because we think we understand their way of expressing their emotions and sometimes we do. Ai cannot be independent in the same way. I stopped caring about fallout npcs when I realized people wrote them to respond only In certain ways to certain actions, therefore unable to express themselves individually and therefore not “human”. It becomes more difficult to relate/communicate. They are a small expression of humanity through a humans skill in writing them, not an equal. I don’t know where this thought is going but I thought it was relevant

[@TheGreatBread001]

Ai as it ti now lacks the ability to understands art. ai art as it is now is just an approximation of previous art, and its quite literally eating its own shit as it scoops up the other ai images people post onto the web. as a few people are saying it makes art without intent. once ai understands how to make art then it will be soulfull enough to deserve to be able to as a living right

[@TheDuck_The3rd]

Finally, a video of yours I can sit and watch for an hour INSTEAD OF 10 MINUTES!!!

[@CerosTelevision]

Imma make an hour long rant about Naruto soon be warned

[@srealone788]

I loved it! I watched it all. I’ll probably watch it again eventually. Tbh. Proud of you 🙌🏼✅🖤

[@randomdudewholikesmusic1640]

Holy shit I JUST noticed the runtime.

[@kiaisded9861]

oh my god I did too

[@srealone788]

You guys are such a weak generation 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️☠️

[@anomalousanimates]

@@srealone788 okay... ☔? nobody cares

[@srealone788]

@@anomalousanimates yeah and that’s exactly part of what’s also wrong with your generation. If no one ever cares? How do you expect the world to ever get better for any of you? The same one you’re always complaining about. Ya’all really your own problem..

[@srealone788]

@@anomalousanimates yeah? Well maybe you all should. Because that’s also part of your generations problem. That no one ever cares. And how is that going to ever help the same world. You all complain about? Ya’all your own problem..

[@TheSPiRiLL]

I grew up in trama and destitute as well, still think the fast majority of AI is stupid

[@srealone788]

Same. I don’t believe it’s as brilliant as we all give it credit. I actually love toying with my AI on Snapchat and I’ve come to find? I may have a similar intelligence level even as a human. I find comical and my kids also do. LOL

[@Pratapana]

I need my cybernetic Arm like JOHNNY SILVERHAND!

[@_random_oddity_]

Did bro just go from sims to Horton hears a who? 😭😭😭😭

[@ROTTERDXM]

Cheers for laying it all out!

[@AlwaysHowButNeverWhy]

thank you for sharing your thoughts with the world

[@VybeX-]

AYY GREEN SCREEN!!! You're awesome Ceros!! 🔥

[@VybeX-]

Also I often feel like the fool that believes that it's not possible for A.I. to become sentient unless the A.I Model was programmed for that to be a possibility.

[@CerosTelevision]

I TOLD YOU! I got you! ( few next videos will not have it lmfao)

[@JanitorVolt]

1:23:27 you are welcome for watching this video. This... beautiful, beautiful video. Beautiful... is the only way i can describe it. There's a dark beauty to evil... to destruction... as much as there's a pure... a good... nice.... however you choose to describe this opposite to the evil and destruction.... There's still a beauty. There's as much beauty in bad things as much as there is in things that are good. This video... is beautiful... thank you for making it and you're welcome in watching it. You are welcome i took my time and i thank you for the time you took to make it. Thats part of the beauty of it all. A forest fire can be seen as evil... or good, it matters not because its still beautiful to see the fire dance like we did as kids for bonfires and camping. Its just larger... the fire still dances the same and its beautiful. Yes it destroys everything around, but it kills the dying, the old, and makes room for new to grow and prosper... thats the beauty of good and evil.

[@jmanbesleepy]

As Micheal cheese hairy my statement is: AI RUINED GOOGLE😭😭

[@goodvybe679]

I welcome AI, but not the people who stand to benefit from it Just for the love of god, don't give it military access

[@birdmuscle5982]

I getcha and this was neat and I liked it and I’m grateful I saw this, but personally I think I’d prefer to do something myself rather than leave it to somebody else, I could be wrong though, thanks anyways!!

[@PinkaholicOfficial]

I fully disagree. Love you brotha

[@AbraCook]

Sorry ya'll broke up. glad it wasn't rough.

[@Modernsour19]

Ceros you should play the game i have no mouth and i must scream

[@nicolaszanon3337]

💀

[@Neon_Piano7900]

I am ok with ai Not the people who use it for monetary gain

[@Pratapana]

Play digimon survive. It’s a visual novel with choices that shape the story.

[@Pratapana]

I hated the stein books. I was more into bram stolkers Dracula. That type of fear. I fuck with. Not in the conventional sense. But it’s a dope story especially how those vampires are created.

[@Vesteriin]

Soulist here, based.

[@professionaltrainenthusias4945]

I’m gonna come back to this and watch it later bcos I’m interested to hear your thoughts I think ai art can’t really be art, ai couldn’t create jazz after all

[@StupitVoltMain]

I just want to live on a livable wage man

[@pqigl375]

I am in love with AI. It's become a dream of mine to make an AI of my own, to take the place of my child. I want this because I fear I'll never have a child, and if I do have one, I fear the fear I'd feel if I lost that child. An AI would face far less danger and live far longer than anything. I know it's wrong, not only to want an AI like that but to want to create something to live forever. Would the AI miss me after I die? Would it cry? Would it search for me? What about trauma? I made the AI, anything it goes through is because I selfishly created it. Yet, I still want to. I'm curious about what could happen.

[@srealone788]

Imagine if it gets annoyed with you and kills you instead, though. Js..

[@srealone788]

But as a parent already? I don’t feel like an AI can fill the void of an actual live child. Idk. But I feel like that would and could never be the same feeling..

[@dendord]

You are afraid of the pain and uncertainty that makes us human. Consider how this reflects your current humanity.

[@artosbear]

.... No the problem with this stuff is that theyre made by weirdos and that LLMs are a gimmick. They are bad. They cant and will not ever develop into I, Robot (the book. The book. The movie is garbage and useless)

[@AQUATIC_ARCHON]

Finally somebody gets it

[@_random_oddity_]

Bro is dropping a better movie on ai than all of 2024 😭😭😭😭

[@Saphfeu]

L.

[@prolifik302]

Ur probably an A.i. deeply

[@srealone788]

No. He’s too real and genuine. I’d have a hard time believing that.

[@StonecypherG]

Yoo i have that shirt

[@isaachopkins9280]

Im Cerosxeual 😂

[@Marsh_Miko]

1 hour 🤑🤑🤑

[@lexnakahara6368]

yeesh

[@ricko1321]

Come get me 😂

[@Titanium.22_]

I mean... they say ai is going to take our jobs... but there complaining about how they don't want to work...

[@somkeshav4143]

Both can be true Jobs don’t pay well enough and give terrible hours depending on career But the availability to get money to live is also dependent on these jobs which AI is probably going to replace whilst accumulating wealth for the super rich. If AI was able to work for everyone and the wealth generated was redistributed much more fairly, people wouldn’t hate AI

[@Darth_Bateman]

Buddy, who is complaining how they don't want to work? Literally EVERY instance I've seen regarding work has been people complaining about applying to McDonalds and STILL not getting hired. and how there is an ABUNDANCE of jobs but somehow NO ONE is hiring. Like, EVERYONE wants to work. Back when I was in University, everyone in their late teens / early 20s assumed they would be millionaires by 25. Now the ONLY people who believe that shit who don't have trust funds or rich parents are crypto-bros who are STILL trying to invest in the right coin WAY past crypto -scamming's expiration date. But those are useless gooners who don't know anything and can't do anything of value.

[@randomguyontheinternet7940]

They're gonna replace the jobs but not the money nor the need for money.

[@theduchessofdarknessofficial]

Jobs are being taken without AI my job was taken from under me recently they just stopped giving me hours trust and Believe it's not ai's fault humanities doing it all on its own.