AI LIMIT - Brutally honest feedback

[@ce-asia]

Hi, LivAverageGamer. This is CE-Asia, the publisher of AI LIMIT. We have received your feedback, and we greatly appreciate your valuable suggestions.

[@livaveragegamer]

@@ce-asia W publisher. Wishing you and Sense games the best in the coming months. I'm excited to see how the game turns out! 加油！ Thanks for stopping by my little channel.

[@lordrushiacanyoupleasesayb3263]

wow nice review

[@captainp367]

Looking forward to the game 😊

[@siliconhawk]

I really want to get this game, please can you make sure that its optimized day 1 coz my PC is not the best in the world, and not being able to play would be a bummer, love the game tho tried the demo today for an hour and loved it.

[@hisuijin8038]

So its Code Vein 2.0 with Nier Automata vibes ... I noticed different hair style in your review, so you can customize her? Different armor sets and weapons / builds will make this game replayable, it should have New Game+ After playing with Wukong monkee for a while , im ready to switch to my weeb origins , anime girls

[@Incog-e1z]

As the head of a tiny studio, I like watching videos like this while working on our next title.

[@snowfang467]

same :>

[@ChungSeiker1st]

Small studio = better quality. Its how it is these day, biggest studios f us players over.

[@supermonstars]

If I ever deveolped a game I'd want this exact same kind of in-depth constructive criticism. Great job, I hope it helps the devs and I hope you keep on doing what you're doing.

[@Ken_M_]

good critical critique. If they hear and fix everything, this game is massive win. I honestly also like human vs human duel like Sekiro did, and that's why I'm looking forward to this game.

[@RealTHM]

Love to see the reasonable takes. Came here from playing the game and enjoyed it a lot, I hope they take these critiques into consideration because I would love to see this game blow up.

[@cordyceps182]

I disagree with the 0% Sync Rate criticism. As someone who has beaten the challenge boss multiple times with different builds, I don't think I've ever dropped to 0% except for when I actually died. It's so easy to get Sync Rate back that I think the stun is a fine punishment. Sync Rate operates like a mixture between Stamina, Mana, a Posture Bar, and Monster Hunter's Sharpness bar. Also, the bonus difficult enemy right in the beginning is much more like the giant crystal lizard at the start of Dark Souls 3. Hits hard, will likely kill a new player, and drops upgrade items if you manage to kill it. The AI Limit one is significantly easier to kill, though.

[@shdwboi07]

Same here. I honestly warmed up to the sync rate system because of the challenge boss, there's something truly satisfying about watching her dump all her sync acting all anime then slapping her silly hip into a stun. Also agree that the first optional enemy is definitely more BloodBorne Scourge Beast / DS3 Giant Crystal Lizard tier.

[@livaveragegamer]

Yeah ok, I could concede those

[@MajorSpam]

Agree with everything about the shield, the Bionicle guy, the first impression and the anime 1v1. Now, they're a tiny team and the game seems to be like 85~90% of the quality of Code Vein, which isn't bad but since CV was already carried hard by the character creation, snappy gameplay, developer recognition (God Eater), and Io, I believe it's not going to be that popular. They really need to start with a banger like the end of Ch1 in Nikke or the tutorial of NieR Automata, something that hooks the player and establishes the setting. They don't have the first movers advantage so they have to compensate by story, animation, visuals (art direction). I'd like to add that the character outlines could've been better, and the skirt of the first outfit having some sugoi PS3 AA quality clipping. Other than that it seems like a cool anime souls-like, pretty much a slight downgrade to CV, which is alright since there are no anime souls games that aren't indie, and AAA trying its best to be unappealing.

[@Beltorchika12]

5:15. In that case, determine is correct since it's referring to the levels, which is plural. "Multiple levels determine". P.S: Other people seem to have pointed this out as well.

[@livaveragegamer]

@@Beltorchika12 ye, fair enough, I can concede that.

[@poiumty]

Hunter of Bladers fight looks like Great Value Lady Maria

[@lxstcxntury6186]

Great video! I hope devs will listen to your strict, but fair feedback. For me, the Code Vein'esque aesthetic sold the game for me and i would definetly buy it

[@kanseidorifto5367]

my opinion is that they should have gone all in on the bloodbornish feel of the game. They had the hunter dash, why just not go for the gun parry and rally system too? The souls-like has been done to death, very few try to tackle bloodborne

[@kphuts815]

I feel like it kinda had a rally in its own way through the sync gauge since your attacks recover it. So if played well you would never have to be stunned which is probably the only thing I disagree with the video on.

[@JorgeMarquezIO]

Love the edit of the boss, agree that it makes more sense if it's grimmy

[@anonsansama8231]

Washed up Liv is probably my favorite Liv.

[@gotinogaden]

The devs are clearly very talented and passionate about the project, and AI Limit shows great potential. To think that some people thought of the demo as an early version of a Code Vein sequel speaks volumes. I just hope they finish it as even AAA titles are often put in hiatus for all kinds of reasons.

[@DjimonMoz]

I don't care how sparce your release schedule is, your high quality commentary on all the subject matter you've touched up to now have cemented me as a subscriber for the long haul. Godspeed on your projects, Liv!

[@TheDarkinSalad]

I tried the demo a few days ago. I think it has great potential. The team seems capable of doing great things. Thanks for making this constructive review. I truly wish the best for this game.

[@BaezileCarnivera]

8:25 More like the giant crystal lizard in the tutorial area of Dark Souls 3, it's like an extra challenge for some early boosts rather than an Asylum Demon.

[@richardwhite3521]

The most important thing about a souls game isn’t the mechanics or gameplay, it’s the atmosphere that FromSoft is able to create. The world building in Bloodborne and Elden ring is amazing.

[@kiamehrgh3081]

Very good review. i wish more youtubers reviewed their early access copies like this, but a little correction at 8:20 ,that is not supposed to be the asylum demon, its actually more like the crystal lizard at the first area in dark souls 3 and its supposed to show you that 1- you will be rewarded for exploration 2- you can leave and come back later when you're stronger, hope you do more of these man

[@Blank97531]

Great Constructive Unbiased Criticism, you provide various valid points in your critique, hopefully the devs see this video, and also take feedback from the other demo testers.

[@ELDENLORD89]

I’m always partial when it comes to indie devs making Souls games. I know how much of an undertaking it is especially when you don’t have the budget or Fromsoftware. I don’t expect every new Souls like to be on the same level as Lies of P. That being said the demo was a 6.5 to me. I actually had allot of fun exploring the sewers since it reminded of Lendell Catacombs. The action feels like elements were cribbed from Bloodborne including the white flash on charge attacks. Your point about the water at the beginning was exactly how I felt as well. I don’t need my games to have RDR2 level physics but the lack of detail on her rising up from the water just felt off putting. I also get your point about that random elite enemy at the beginning of the game but funnily enough Bloodborne did that too with the axe guy. So I was fine with it. I do wish the dodge roll was a bit more fluid. And I also agree that the jump should look visually better. I feel like with more time in the oven this could be a solid 7/10 Souls like. I was actually thirsty for more when I finally got out of the sewers but by then the demo was over.

[@keeysOST]

I hope they give the attacks more kick. That's something I also criticized about Code Vein. While the animations are good, it sometimes feels like you're swinging a large stick.

[@AOKellyJr]

This is fantastic criticism/feedback. Great video, dude!

[@GameBooAdvancePlus]

As for the shield, I think it's more healthy to look at it like Lies of P looked at it. where you mix and match your responses depending on the situation instead of being ride-or-die with one default response like many souls people are conditioned to do (for some unknown reason, pride?). The shield makes some encounters, particularly with those freaking annoying robots with no queues, way easier to deal with and that may be the intention given that you get the shield right before you encounter 2 of those robots in succession.

[@RawFish2DChannel]

I agree with the water being weird when you step on it, but also it only reflects light and not your surroundings which looks super weird to me. If they don't want to use heavy effects for reflections they could just make it transparent so only light reflection is visible enough and you can see floor through the water though, heavy reflection effects are erguable, something like cubemaps or SSR would be good enough, with former looking better with better performance in a static scene

[@velo7523]

Fantastic critique, game has a ton of potential

[@durakeno5575]

Hmm after watching this, I agree with most of your points except the one about sync rate zeroed vulnerability. While this can happen by just getting hit, there other situations where you it makes more sense. Like when you’re using shield, it’s the consequence for blocking too much damage. There’s also a debuff which drains sync rate continuously. So you have to attack to keep it from putting you down. The sync rate also works as poise in this way.

[@TriggerHippie]

5:10 "determine" is correct, not "determines". "which" is referring to "multiple levels" which is plural. Therefore, the verb that refers to it should be plural (determine) , not singular (determines). If you're going to be nitpicky about English, make sure you get it right-especially when you're a native speaker criticizing text in a Chinese game. Gonna watch the rest of the video but thought I'd point out that small mistake. edit: finished watching, rest of the points you make are fair I think. Really hope the full game turns out good. It's funny because I'm currently replaying Code Vein which I first played 4 years ago and the fact that they never made or announced a sequel bums me out, then I stumble upon this game which kinda seems like a spiritual successor to CV in a way.

[@Timbolus97]

5:21 I think "determine" refers to "levels", not "sync rate". Therefore the additional s is not required

[@Beltorchika12]

I agree, I posted a similar comment to yours before checking if someone else said the same.

[@lureyourpery5569]

You back

[@Keychan64]

People can we please stop complaining about names?

[@Disco_Tek]

Great review and I echo most of the sentiments. The parry window and dodges feel a little off and I think its down to certain boss animations on slashing attacks just coming out too quick. Parry should be a main part of the kit as it keeps the fighting more dynamic and less turtling. Otherwise I think the visuals just need some work but mechanically I do think there is a good game here and I wishlisted it.

[@kyurem7357]

the reflect sound effect should be changed to something like air explosion sound effect.

[@babayaga9805]

I played the demo and while streaming it came to my attention that the shield is not equipped like within a second. If there is an attack incoming and even after you have done your attack the shield doesn't activate

[@theblackcoatedman6794]

Ah that explains that. That's fine. Not everyone needs to be a career KZbinr. Best of luck!

[@LazyNikolas]

great review ! btw where did you find the dual blades ?

[@livaveragegamer]

@@LazyNikolasthanks boss, if you don't select them, I think I got them either as a drop from the fallen blader or in the little tunnel where that mud monster jumps out at her. You also get another kind later right before the last boss of the demo if you want to just push through to there.

[@lolozo214]

5:10 very minor grammatical nitpick - "determine" and "determines" can both be grammatically correct, as it is ambiguous whether it is the sync rate or the levels doing the determining. If you just changed it to "determines", it would still read weird to some people, so it would be better off rephrasing the entire sentence imo

[@livaveragegamer]

@@lolozo214 fair

[@roman260590]

Gettin' back to Code Vein, ty

[@christopherway2546]

The robots dudes that get stuck and hover and float across tue screen to make sure their attack lands needs some attention, the parry needs some attention, and I’m sure a few other things need some attention. It’s got a lot of potential but in its current state it’s below average.

[@LeviiBryn28]

Im at this boss hunter of blades. Im getting my ass kicked still. I feel like they could do better with the attacks. I feel like they're a little slow since you're basically a robot. The design you did on the Lore boss was sick looking, I like that better than the original. I also agree with you about getting stun locked at 0%. That pissed me off because you already get thrashed around. There a few things I would like them to change but all in all im hoping they improve the game more because I am interested in it. The boss challenge is what sold me on the game. Seeing what cools stuff you will get and how sick this boss is makes me wonder what the other bosses will be like.

[@FROZENbender]

hobbies are fun because they're enjoyable so don't worry about not following through with promised reviews if it just didn't end up working. one note on the graphics, the cel-shaded style looks pretty good but the strands of complete black look like graphics glitches. And yeah hard agree on the necessity for organic movement in order to convey motion and weight. It can be a nice gimmick to break this paradigm (see elden rings stone cat bosses) but too much and it seems a bit jarring.

[@CapSP5467]

Hey hey, thought you might like to know there is an area behind the giant robot guy that you can access after destroying his hand :)

[@kevo300]

I had a decently positive experience...but I was spoiled because First Berserker Kahazan beta dropped and its way more fluid. This game was fun but the movement is to stiff. Also the way you put away your weapon is really bad.

[@alexkirov9188]

The big guy you compare to the asylum demon is more like the big crystal lizard at the start of dark souls 3. An optional challenge that grants an upgrade material if killed. I think your comparison here is misguided and the big guy is a great set piece with being able to see him from above first

[@MajorSpam]

Was there an embargo? I just searched for it and only found one trailer from 7 months ago. Everything else about this game was uploaded within the last few hours. Edit: Oh there's a gameplay trailer from 5 years ago...

[@livaveragegamer]

There was

[@Lucivius27]

What I really hate about those robots are they dont stagger. Be it just standing or about to attack you they just dont.

[@colinfortin6034]

Small detail to point out she is walking on water the same black water her body was made from…

[@jessopjessopjessop860]

I genuinly like the demo, but agree with some of these issues. I mentioned a few critiques on Steam - sudenly I'm an "Anime hating darksouls baby who trashed anything that isn't From". 😑

[@BlueKoshinomi8]

I want more Nioh like games. Ever since I started Nioh2, I started hating every other souls game lol.

[@animeturnMMD]

I beat this DEMO yesterday and as someone who played Code Vein, I liked it, I specially loved the references to BLAME's visual style, this game is super BLAME looking, but my bigger complain is that the playable character isn't sexy looking enough XD, well that and that I think the game is still too green, it needs improvements in its combat animations, in the textures of the character you use, I mean the skill systems, weapon systems and combat systems are fine, but the game still feels too crude and I think the Demo was just a taste of the real final product, so instead of a polished game we will got a too indi and too handicraft looking game, not a final product from a professional team (even if it is a little team) I think they should take at least some more months to completely polish the game specially in the visual aspect, and the telegraphy of the enemies movements, however it seems that the game will be released very soon which worries me.

[@jablikesouls]

i agree with some of this, but a lot of it is really nitpicky if im being honest man lol

[@livaveragegamer]

Yes, absolutely, this is a game in development. Not a released game so I will point out absolutely everything that I think myself, and other gamers will consciously or subconsciously pickup on so they have as much information as possible. What they do with it is up to them, but I'm developing a game myself and the "It's pretty good, I had fun" feedback is warm and fuzzy but it is frustratingly unhelpful. If this was a game review I wouldn't say about half as much.

[@jablikesouls]

@livaveragegamer I liked how in depth you went tho. earned a sub

[@Florkl]

I mean I’d rather know about an issue, even if I don’t have time to fix it, than not know about the issue in the first place.

[@Nicko-jv3jv]

Especially my gripe was with his complaint about the sewer cleaner. I enjoyed that boss battle alot especially with how cool his moves and model design was.

[@Nurix09]

Is this kinda like Code Vein? Edit Nevermind 1:13 Looks like a game I'd enjoy

[@P-Roy24]

hmm. Their English is correct; the use of the word determine does not need adjustment. Just fyi. Shows actually how non native English speakers learn correct grammar and know English better than us natives at times. referring to 5:08 time of the video.

[@torgo_]

i kinda wish the enemy designs were a bit more creative

[@zigrakudo4092]

if you're loathe to use the term "souls-like" be like me and just call them 3d roguelites. my friends hate me for this.

[@livaveragegamer]

🤣 I'm going to do just that

[@Delstrom2]

Ehh, I'm not sure I agree with this term. Firstly, "rogue-like" is part of the problem, being games like the 1980s (I think) game Rogue. Secondly, the defining feature of rogue likes is the procedurally generated levels where progression is additive between runs. Both of these go against the careful level design and linear progression of Souls games. However, I do agree that Souls-like is a dumb name, we need better genre terms for these things.

[@zigrakudo4092]

@@Delstrom2 3d metroidvania lol.

[@EthelonYT]

Did you play it on PC? I couldn't finish it because it ran awfully and did something to my controllers deadzones, 30 minutes in it made my camera sensitivity so low it took 5 seconds to do a 360 turn

[@livaveragegamer]

@@EthelonYT that's crazy, yeah I played on PC with a PS5 controller. I didn't experience anything like that. Might be worth a bug report if the feature is fhere

[@jamescornett9166]

I've played the demo and the parry could be improved, too slow to start for fast enemies. I barely beat the demo bosses final form and tried the Hunter of blades optional boss with parries and it's useless. The boss is too fast and aggressive, I'm trying diff strategies to fight her.

[@massaosaito4084]

Tô me, seems that the char model and the environment clash violently in aesthetics, to the point the game looks like an asset flip, am I the only one with that feeling? P.S: lol, the visuals bothered me so much, that I paused to type 3 second before the KZbinr Said himself XD

[@markhettenbach3141]

Are they releasing a public demo?

[@leviaxstorm]

The Demo is already Open to the public, i just Downloaded it myself 5 Hours or so ago on PS5, i also checked on Steam and there is a Download Button for it.

[@markhettenbach3141]

@@leviaxstorm ill have to look next time im on psn, 😁

[@lordrushiacanyoupleasesayb3263]

I also played it today

[@danielsetiawan8754]

only lies of P stands tall amongs them souls-like

[@silversnow-]

Last Berserker Kazan too

[@danielsetiawan8754]

@@silversnow- dunno man, we have not yet seen the full picture here

[@lindthechaoticheretic8708]

Skip to 5:00 for actual game review He spends too long in the beginning complaining about graphical nit pics.

[@barbos1507]

So far my personal biggest complaints are complete lack of combos, light attacks must transfer into heavies and vice versa; useless jumps, better remove them alltogether; unused buttons on controller, x or a could be used as spell or weapon skill, without the need of pressing lb first (this is especially clunky when using katana with parry skill).

[@hisuijin8038]

Ok im a weeb and a elden ring veteran so im getting this The most important question : Does this game have Odachi swords or katanas? because , everyone knows you cant have anime girls without these blades... its ... a weebish demand ... thanks!

[@livaveragegamer]

Yes, you can use a katana in the boss challenge and it has a counter special move with the *shing* sound with the light glint. You know the one

[@hisuijin8038]

@@livaveragegamer sold! Will get it, already played all jrpg arpgs from code vein to nier and most popular anime games... Now hooked on korean stuff , you should check out first descendant too if you dont already play it

[@MassiveGhost-]

I wished these companies making souls like would copy Lords of the fallen dual worlds idea

[@adrianalexanderveidt344]

I bet that these Devs are lacking a UX Designer and an Effects Artist. Just a hunch.

[@adrianalexanderveidt344]

Oh, and "The Huntress" is 100% inspired by Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower.

[@livaveragegamer]

@@adrianalexanderveidt344 😅 probs. They have a listing for 3 positions. The only one I remember is an animator but yeah, site's down for me atm.

[@livaveragegamer]

@@adrianalexanderveidt344 good ideas are always worth stealing 😍

[@emergency_broadcast_system]

Very similar to code vein it seems

[@votpavel]

bosses/hard enemies felt shitty, otherwise it was alright

[@ombra711]

The MC is mid, what an uninspired basic 90's female design.

[@Miyakolover]

It seems like to me Chinese deves have nothing better to do than to ripoff Dark Souls (Wuchang, Black Myth Wukong, Ai:Limit, Swordman Love Story, Kotaginyoung, Faith of the Ancient Hereafter, etc).

[@livaveragegamer]

@@Miyakolover I can't speak to all of them but I wouldn't go as far to say wukong "rips off" dark souls. I also wouldn't make the distinction of it being a Chinese thing. Everyone has had a go at it because it's a really good idea. What's unique is that China and Korea seem way more invested in singleplayer games now than they traditionally were and it may be a result of programs like Sony's "China hero project" or it could be that they see the gap in the western market for straight forward gaming, who knows though, time will tell.

[@Miyakolover]

@@livaveragegamer Yet they still both lack in innovation and are interested in ripping off Nier Automata and Dark Souls. That is my main issue with Chinese and Korean devs...the lack of innovation even if their games can be fun to play.

[@livaveragegamer]

@@Miyakolover Right, I'm not going to contest you on an opinion. Instead, may I ask what you consider the last major innovation in mainstream gaming was? I'm not going to go back and forth or looking for a gotcha. I just like trying to understand perspectives. This is my small, gamer survey so to speak.

[@Miyakolover]

@@livaveragegamer Well, what I generally mean is that we got Japanese and Western devs shaping up gaming as we know it today and that Chinese and Korean ones come in late and haven't done anything that sets them apart from what's already present. For examples, we got Hideo Kojima inventing the stealth genre and popularizing it with the mechanics of Metal Gear on MSX. Konami also invented the side scroller platformers genre with their game Scramble in 1981. Another example is Walter Bright who pioneered the turn based genre in gaming with the game Empire. Another example is John Carmack who created Doom and his innovation made the FPS genre what it is today (I know FPS games came before, but none of these games could do it like doom). So basically, my criticism of Korean and Chinese devs is they're not doing anything new, infact companies like Mihoyo for example is captializing on anime success with their anime games, which is a Japanese invention in itself. Hope this explains my perspective.

[@livaveragegamer]

@@Miyakolover Yeah I can see where you're coming from. Maybe one day they will come up with something. I can only roughly speak for China. For a lack of a better word "Premium gaming" is fairly new in China as a whole so maybe they just need more time at it. Could also be that it's getting harder to invent new ideas within a medium that is almost 40 years old. Hope it's the former personally. Don't mind me, just thinking out loud. Thanks for sharing.

[@fingermi7571]

CopySouls #44,675......go go Gadget ingenuity