AI music is older than you think

AI music concepts date back hundreds of years. These techniques can even have implications for musical artificial intelligence techniques today and can teach us much about composition, music theory and how music works in general...
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[@ScoreCircuit]

Sorry for the re-upload. There was a big mistake in the original video that needed to be fixed!

[@Musix4me-Clarinet]

Not a problem.

[@patrickloiseleur]

Fascinating video, thank you so much for posting ! My bet (and i'm both a composer and software engineer) is that in the next few years AI will reach the same level for music as they do for text and images, so AI tools will be able to do things like orchestrating or arranging any piece, re-interpreting a classic piece in jazz style, writing a fugue on a theme by Beyonce, etc, etc The consequences for the music industry are hard to anticipate, but they can hardly be understated.

[@DanielSilva-gc4xz]

I hope this video ages well.

[@hidude5620]

Lol! I'm literally working on an AI music generator right now as a weird coincidence. Good vid

[@user-mi5bz4ic7g]

Any luck so far?

[@hidude5620]

@@user-mi5bz4ic7g Yea, I would say its a bit better than the raw algorithms in the video. Since its an actual ai it can do multiple genres too.

[@OmnivorousOtter101]

Can’t believe I learned something about both AI and music theory from a single KZbin video! You are the most underrated musical youtuber!

[@SisselOnline]

Why this video has so less view... have shared in my community w

[@C-Llama]

Wow I was really surprised after watching this that you only have 3.6k subs! Your vids are great, keep it up and eventually the algorithm will shine on you

[@bierrepoulez8524]

What a discovery!! So excited for your next uploads

[@andreaswolffmusic]

What a great video! I haven't heard of the dice pieces so far. I had a similar idea for a composition but now I know that my idea was not so new after all! PS: One day we'll get you to Saturn, Alex! One day... 😄

[@nicolevichan]

you deserve more views

[@malumarzagao]

Very cool video! It brought up several reflections for me. Regarding the lack of good AIs for creating music, the recently released AI Suno shows an interesting level of musical composition. I wonder, if human creativity is also based, in part, on combining references to create something new, what distinguishes our creative ability from that of AIs? Is it our ability to introduce random elements? Is error our hallmark of humanity? Our ability to introduce chaos and then harmonize it again... How does something truly new come into being?

[@LaurenceGray-et7sb]

I first learned about these musical dice games from my music theory instructor approximately forty years ago when I was a music major in college. I did enjoy watching and listening to this video.

[@samd7293]

Good video! Although, to be fair, I believe the goal of AI music is different than David Cope's goal. The purpose of AI music is to have the computer teach itself how to create music, rather than having someone go in and explain to the computer harmonic function and melodic lines and such. All of Cope's programs probably took hundreds of hours to create for a single artist, but if we could teach a computer to teach itself all that stuff, you could give it any artist and have it create stylistic compositions instantly without any extra programming.

[@abeahmed2581]

Not a fan of a.i music, but I think it's an important learning tool, and to be honest sometimes it's just fun to mess with. I just don't like the idea that a.i music should replace music made by people per say.

[@alexroes6157]

Bro was spitting German lol

[@FrostDirt]

Nice video

[@raymondboudreau]

Who’da thunk musicians could make a better music-making machine.

[@larchmontmark1]

I wonder, was that reply to my comment AI-generated? :-) It has that look.

[@ScoreCircuit]

No. It's just me. Sorry. 😂You triggered the researcher in me.

[@Whatismusic123]

Mozart would never approve of the use of such a ridiculous, non-music system of composition. It is built upon the assumption that there are multiple, equally correct continuation. But that's not how music works, there is often only a single correct way to continue a part of an idea, or there can be massive differences in the conparative quality of good ideas, yet only a single one is actually great. It's like a chess bot that instead of findinf the best moves, it looks at historical games, and chooses a random note which has been played before by a grand master in the position. It may "sound good" but it's filled with errors, and becomes completely incoherent the further the music progresses.

[@larchmontmark1]

Taking further what samd7293 said, and being more blatant about it: This isn't like "AI" at all. "AI" isn't random stuff, at all. I don't mean to talk up AI, which I detest, but.... This isn't AI any more than that a monkey at a typewriter is like Shakespeare.

[@ScoreCircuit]

Thanks for the comment; the point you bring up is a valid one! Believe it or not, I’m actually an AI researcher and software developer, and I work with and build neural networks almost every single day. The term 'Artificial Intelligence' encompasses a vast range of techniques and approaches. While modern AI often leverages neural networks and deep learning, the history of AI also includes rule-based systems, expert systems, and even simpler algorithms. You're right in saying that not every algorithmic or random process equates to the sophisticated AI we're familiar with today. However, the broader concept of AI has always been about mimicking or emulating human intelligence, creativity, or decision-making, even in its simplest forms.

[@patrickloiseleur]

Generative AI use (pseudo-)random seeds, so I don't get your point. To me, David Sore's work look very much like training some specialised AI on a dataset built out of Bach's chorales.