AI vs Humanity

[@CheeseWedge056]

My job is safe, because I spend all day dealing with the issues caused by natural stupidity, the no. 1 foil to artificial intelligence

[@The_Defiance]

Ai also struggles to be human as well so any physiological help can’t be taken by ai

[@TheRadioknight]

ER?

[@revan1202]

A lot of people think me as a welder, my job's going to be taken over. Let me make this clear for everyone. I've seen the robots. They're not smart because they still require a human input and they'll hire people who have never made it out of middle school to do that. It's was my job to come behind them and fix it.

[@TCF640]

Same- rental equipment technician.

[@cjfelldownagain]

Same here! We joke around all the time that it would be impossible to replace us but it would be nice lol

[@hekatesketch2622]

Instructions unclear, accidentally learned HTML for use in making a homebrew D&D document

[@ranid0072]

Learned Java for making yet another mod for Minecraft

[@amaximus224]

Instructions very clear

[@majzerofive]

learning html is easily comparable to learning an alphabet, but okay :d

[@hekatesketch2622]

@majzerofive I'm just being silly

[@nabra97]

And where is the negative part?

[@nickz3252]

I'm not worried that I'll be replaced by AI because it's better than me I'm worried my boss will compare my paycheck to a subscription to ChatGPT and decide to lay off my entire department 😅

[@DNeonLamp]

This is my issue with the argument. I can't pivot away from needing food and shelter, so at a baseline I need to be paid living wages when AI doesn't. My investment in myself doesn't work if jobs I would pivot to are seeing the job I just lost to AI and thinking "I can save money here too."

[@CaptainRx-ss3rt]

Realistically your boss won’t fire all of you but a good chunk and the remaining one will be paid half as their job will be supervising AI instead of working. Automation never replaced human but it sure did lower their salary. Also everyone excuses is « just learn something else » as if some peoples didn’t pay for college to learn (or are learning) soon to be near useless stuff. I bet in 10-20 years we’ll regret our attitude deeply.

[@frankwashburn6680]

this is a completely valid worry, but FWIW there's a massive AI driven bubble that's going to burst pretty soon. AI isn't profitable, never will be, and to this day doesn't have a killer app. Its quality of output is plateauing hard, and all the big players are trying to just double down on it because of the short term attractive VC investments. Stick through it, maintain your skills, and there'll be need for humans to actually pick up the pieces when everything in the AI sphere crumbles

[@thatlonzoguy]

​@@DNeonLamp its easy when you have it made already like pirate does

[@philsomething8313]

@@frankwashburn6680 That's some hellava big assumptions right there... 'never will be profitable' - 'never' is such a long time and the incentives to make it so are far greater than any one persons livelyhood. Also, long term, you better hope it does become profitable as if we allow it to, it could be the best thing for humanity.

[@MadhouseBaum]

absolutely true for my brother. He learned how to climb and repair telephonemasts which dont exist anymore, but taking that opportunity led to a new jobopportunity. he moved and worked for a company doing commercial 3D animation and learned a shit ton of stuff and is now a proficient pipeliner with knowledge of hardware an everything IT. When i started studying IT he has not only heard of all of it, he DID everything i learn already. while he envies me for having a degree, i envy him for having MASSIVE skill which i may never be able to catch up to

[@baumwollejr]

@@MadhouseBaum with the right Mentor (your Brother?) you can and will Catch Up 💪🏻

[@edmdeathmachine]

"do you think cyber sec-" *looks up*

[@benoitmarcotte8807]

That's the proof that he loves what he's doing

[@rice_frying_shrimp]

he might have also thought it was about to say something else that sounds similar and that someone found a way to circumvent a filter some way somehow.

[@CrispyMonsta]

He literally looked up to switch tabs... are you even watching what's happening on screen?

[@wadedoto]

The dono asked different kind of sec though

[@benoitmarcotte8807]

​@@CrispyMonsta If the screen is up, how is he supposed to see while looking down?

[@solomonheppner]

Active learning over passive learning....100%

[@tobiasmelgard2070]

I like your words beard man

[@llliiimmmeee]

Your words were quite exquisite, dear kind gentleman with prominent facial hair.

[@theburgerking1236]

For sure. Learning something new is always a win.

[@solomonheppner]

@theburgerking1236 There is such a thing as useless information.

[@llliiimmmeee]

@@theburgerking1236 There is such a thing as useless information.

[@spakray5073]

The way he perked up at cyber SE- made me think we were both ready to hear something else

[@billybob1831]

😂😂

[@RoydeanEU]

Vedal

[@CheesyChez421]

Glad I'm not the only one. Well...maybe not glad necessarily.

[@thechikage1091]

The issue with automation is that it is currently being treated as a vehicle for wealth consolidation, rather than as an assisting tool to give humans more free time to explore the arts and explore deeper, more meaningful experiences and relationships. This is because the people that drive these business decisions have a material interest only in how they can increase their stock price. If human well-being suffers for it, they don't care because they are wealthy enough to be insulated from the consequences.

[@ottokarl5427]

That is a general problem we have, but it is particularly true with AI, yes. Money and economic gain has become a bit of a fetish and we kind of assume we can't do it any other way. Concerning AI, there is also this great saying circulating: "I want a computer to do my laundry and work, so I can have time to write and learn. Instead I get an AI that writes and learns, so I have more time to do my laundry and work?"

[@Bubblesirup]

Just imagine a world where you loose your job to automation, but still get a large portion of salary because the job is still being done, you simply can take the time to relax now. 😂

[@RuneKatashima]

And the odd thing is AI is being used to take over the arts first, before the mundane tasks.

[@thechikage1091]

@RuneKatashima yes, that is the point. The economic class of people that own everything degrade art for the purpose of crushing the human spirit. Edit: the point is also to keep you doing the mundane tasks. Because power means nothing unless you can subject someone to it.

[@thechikage1091]

@ottokarl5427 yes, that is the point. The capital class wants to remove free expression because a lack of it makes you a more subservient worker. Power is nothing if it can't be used to subjugate others.

[@sensereference2227]

STEM people need to study more history. Wide swathes of artisans who spent many years training in a particular craft did lose their jobs during the Industrial Revolution. Just because you spend years learning something doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be able to pivot to something else, especially if the demand for skilled workers abruptly drops during the transition period after some revolutionary new technology that can replace skilled workers is introduced.

[@EhurtAfy]

While I agree that new career paths have typically been created as a result of innovative technologies, I doubt that historical trend will continue. Honestly, I think AI and a few engineers can keep society going all by themselves in the near future. Almost all laborers and skilled technicians could be replaced by AI fairly easily. An adult human is basically just a walking neural network that's been training for decades. Another thing is a lot of corporations are taking heat for using cheap labor like sweat shops, if they switch to AI they solve that problem. Farming, construction, mining, logging, these are all very dangerous things, people die from accidents or chronic exposure to hazardous materials all the time. Those industries are already rapidly automating. If AI can do jobs that kill people on a regular basis, I think AI will do them. There will always be some STEM jobs available, jobs that require a human touch, but I can see a point where most people have nothing meaningful to contribute to the economy. Government will likely have to start some form of universal basic income and housing otherwise we'll have tens of millions of angry, unemployed people

[@Hankhill1327]

@@sensereference2227 yeah, but at a point where a mass amount of engineering jobs get “taken by AI” that would mean that a lot of other complex tasks would be as well

[@BRegan-sx7sl]

@@sensereference2227 lol so you would rather rationalize learning nothing your whole life because you live in fear of AI taking your job?

[@sensereference2227]

@@BRegan-sx7sl Nope. I can just do both: acknowledge the lessons of history and the reality of the situation while still continuing to learn new things.

[@MrBrock314]

But, learning from history, don't specialize too hard in one area. If you master welding and computer programming, they're unlikely to both go out of demand at the same moment which gives you time to learn a new 3rd skill.

[@VulturousStuff]

Slowly starving to death as i attempt to learn how to stop losing my job

[@zacharynovak2180]

Yeah, the problem I see isn’t AI TAKING jobs, but rather decreasing the number of available jobs. That makes the job market much more competitive and puts more negotiating power in the hands of corpos - don’t just invest in yourself, look into joining or starting a union so that you cannot be as easily taken advantage of.

[@ottokarl5427]

1)That is a big fear in my country right now: The qualified working force is so thin, that workers have tremendous negotioating power. It gets counteracted by a constant stream of "we all need to work more for our economy and you can't have shorter weeks, we need that for OUR wealth!". So AI might come in real handy for that. 2)Reducing the amount of jobs shouldn't be a problem. It actually should be something we can work towards as a society, freeing up more time for us to learn, advance society or just have fun. Buuuuut of course we will just turn it into an economic dystopia as usual. Because again, "OUR wealth" is at stake!!!1

[@XelnasTV]

Did I teleport to an alternate 1920 that has KZbin because this sounds like industrial revolution down talking.

[@rockspoon6528]

"Decreasing the number of available jobs" is functionally equivalent to "taking jobs". Change my mind.,

[@bradhaines3142]

AI cant do nearly as much as it's hyped to do. just like 'robots' havent been stealing jobs. the only things automation can take now are the shitty jobs most people already shouldn't have to do. like welding robots, the only jobs those take are the awful repetitive tasks of literally welding the same thing the same way over and over. the people who did that before can do repairs, custom fabrication, things that just pay more to begin with

[@nahuel3433]

@@bradhaines3142 That part is not relevant when all it has to do is convince the people hiring that it indeed can do more than it does. And currently that's all they hype there.

[@gabrielcondon6895]

Pascal's Wager but about AI instead of dying was not what I expected to see today

[@loon1994]

Pacal's Wager is just punnetsquares for future outcomes

[@silverlight6074]

Pascal's Wager but actually accounting for all possible outcomes

[@ApesAmongUs]

Pascal's Wager is a game played by exploiting the fact that math doesn't really work the same once you start slapping infinities in there. Without an infinity somewhere, there is no Pascal's Wager.

[@1gient]

Already exists and gets mislabeled a "cognitohazard". It's called "Roko's Basilisk".

[@samfrancis1873]

​@@ApesAmongUs Thor's model and Pascal's Wager are both flawed, as they fail to account for various types of resources, .e.g., time and mental efforts

[@OLC62]

The AI took my wife and kids

[@SalimShahdiOff]

has Weird Al gone too far ?

[@smokelingers]

Never fear. Your wife will be back when she realizes the AI will never decide what's for dinner. Your kids will be back the moment they can't negotiate for leniency when they do something they shouldn't.

[@Shahpo]

This only happened because your wife and kids were part of the training data. Would never happen to my wife and kids.

[@thedivineslayer1301]

You win

[@SalimShahdiOff]

@@smokelingers A.I. is a horrible negociator so kids won't Come back, sorry

[@AD-lh3jk]

I guess the real concern isn’t really on automation’s capability vs a person’s ability to learn and pivot industry, but whether most employers think which source of workforce is worth it. Both in performance and cost Because at the end of the day what determines the job market are what employers deem valuable And regardless of how many actual skill or knowledge you have, employers have their own checklists of criteria which has a luck factor attached most of the time

[@SpectreSCII]

This, sadly. I work in IT for a pharma company and literally all that upper management talks about is "AI doing this, our new chatbot solving all the problems, etc." Nobody has openly stated that they want to replace us with AI (and an AI that doesn't learn and was developed in-house by silly people), but we all know that that's their end goal. The higher ups seem to think AI as a whole is some kind of miracle technology that will fix all of their problems forever, and it really isn't.

[@uberculex]

Nowadays having skill and experience is generally considered a negative for companies because you will probably want more pay.

[@MrBrock314]

What determines the job market is what people want, not what employers want to sell.

[@I-do-things-occasionally]

Moral of the story is to lean things, it’s fun and no matter what there is always a time when that new knowledge will be useful

[@Darth_Supaku]

lean things

[@I-do-things-occasionally]

@ ah, I see… you know what, I stand- well, I lean by it, everyone should lean on things

[@shawnpitman876]

Please tell me about how useful the knowledge of whalers was after 1982. Oh wait, it wasn't, not in any way.

[@NihongoWakannai]

This is an overly romantic view. Learning is good sure, but learning specifically to pivot to a new industry in the face of AI is not fun. It takes a lot of time, effort and money to do so and if all of that gets wasted in the end then it was absolutely not a net positive. Doing a fun hobby in your spare time is not saving you from AI

[@I-do-things-occasionally]

@@shawnpitman876 I’d imagine that a whaler would have the knowledge of not only the basics of sailing, but also how to stay at sea for extended periods of time, which could both be useful for other jobs

[@coreywhitaker883]

Working in retail. I’ve seen some AI crap on product. Can’t remember the brand but it was a tent had an AI generated picture on the box. Man holding the tent had extra fingers. They’re definitely out there trying to replace people for sure. The speed at which they’re doing it is just slow.

[@ShugoAWay]

Exactly but in that example it truely was a waste to hire and run a photo shoot and AI can save money As long as they didn't let gpt write the instructions everything is fine lol

[@raisingthejay]

@@ShugoAWay It's not a waste to hire lol it's called quality control

[@ShugoAWay]

@raisingthejay for an actor to stand next to a tent for a cover picture? What quantity are you controlling? Lol

[@raisingthejay]

@@ShugoAWay Who said it had to be an actor? Lol

[@ShugoAWay]

@raisingthejay ... or actress ... let's not play the pronoun game bud

[@vekien]

This is still very short sighted and only applies now, but not in 5-10-15 years (careers are lifetime, not a few years).

[@MrBrock314]

Humans will always be better than AI at certain tasks.

[@ThomasCober]

“So you can pivot” is doing a lot of work here…

[@AldeyBrutus]

for real, his take is a little naive

[@Paciffic]

@@AldeyBrutus yeah, the third column should be "you lose" because for at least some time you'll be unemployed. There is no guarantee that you will find any other jobs with similar skills - you might have to spend another few years of learning just like you did when you were young.

[@jaromtollefson3127]

@@AldeyBrutus Exactly. If AI takes my Data Science job that I have learned the skills for, I have yet to find something else that will pay me the same for those hard fought skills. Its something that sounds nice, but when you did into it, it isn't

[@SpinglerSpongen]

It isn’t a naive take to say that you can use your gained skills to switch jobs to where there is more security. Pivoting jobs is common and will become more common

[@MrBrock314]

@@Paciffic Move to a country with a social safety net which is now most of them.

[@imerence6290]

For all the revolutionary technologies that were introduced to replace human, almost all of them ended up resulting in net job losses. There was a some UK based research done on this. I'll mention it if i find it. Edit: it wasn't a UK based but a US MIT based researcher David Autor and the conclusion was the following: "On net, the study finds, and particularly since 1980, technology has replaced more U.S. jobs than it has generated."

[@GeorgiiPotapov]

Leaving comment to get the reference if you find it

[@imerence6290]

@@GeorgiiPotapov Found it. It's a US based research actually. It was done by MIT economist David Autor in the study titled "Does technology help or hurt employment?" In this he mentioned "On net, the study finds, and particularly since 1980, technology has replaced more U.S. jobs than it has generated." This study was done for the US for the time range of 1940-2024. There does appear to be a faster rate of automation, and a slower rate of augmentation, in the last four decades, from 1980 to the present, than in the four decades prior,” says Autor, co-author of a newly published paper detailing the results.

[@duzypokoj1151]

it's like when horses were replaced by automobiles in the early 1900s but this time we are the horses :)

[@GeorgiiPotapov]

@@imerence6290 Thank you!

[@mimic7184]

@@imerence6290 Now look up studies that found more jobs were created (like the Future of Jobs Report by the World Economic Forum) and tell me which one has more examples. You can't just look up one random study and say "yep, that's the full and complete truth!" Individual studies can be wrong, they can be misleading, they can say something different than what other people say... it's only in putting many of them together that we figure out what's going on.

[@godqueensadie]

I'm sure "You learned so you win" will be very helpful to people who can't pay bills because AI took their jobs lol

[@irmiwolf]

yeah since they can use the thing they learned for a new job/way to earn money.

[@NippyWolf]

Some people see opportunities everywhere, while others don’t. Don’t be the latter

[@sieda666]

@@NippyWolf Even if a life-changing opportunity lies just across the road, you should probably still check for cars first before you race on over.

[@Jhakaro]

@@irmiwolf if you spent 20 years in art and suddenly few places hired you anymore due to AI, pivoting from that using what you learned doesn't really work does it? It's not as simple as you say

[@LukeCrawford-n7n]

Automation technology will always be a threat, but hopefully it develops slowly enough that people have time to pivot. If it happens too quickly then we're all in trouble whether your specific job is threatened or not

[@saerain]

Au contraire tho Slowly and there's a long period of whittling away labor where fewer and fewer people have anything to do, generations go by eliminating bloodlines from the gene pool, it may be eugenic but it's kind of dark. Quickly and the difference between bus drivers and nuclear physicists being redundant is too short a time to barely care about.

[@duzypokoj1151]

look what gemini 2.0 can already do. It will keep getting faster and faster, exponentially. Once the shift from manual labor to humanoid robots starts it's over.

[@PJ-hi1gz]

@@duzypokoj1151 it's impressive but it still can't replace humans

[@MrBrock314]

@@duzypokoj1151 That's inspired by Terminator less than reality.

[@theimmoralcookie]

Problem is the people complaining about loosing their job to AI can't go learn things to pivot so they loose. School and certifications cost a lot and its easy for employers to take young students out of school.

[@Paciffic]

also, AI big advantage is super fast learning, so if there is a new thing on the job market - it will be almost certain that AI will learn that faster than an average human.

[@MrBrock314]

At this point, school is not the only way to learn. There's more 'free' information at everyone's fingertips than ever before. What you need to learn is how to sort, prioritize and find information and then apply it. It takes about 100 hours to learn a new skill so if one is attempting it, you can do it on a single week off or 7 Sundays.

[@uuu12343]

I worry about NOT getting a job because of AI, because im not afraid of AI, i'm not afraid of ghosts - I'm afraid of humans, Humans scare me, humans are the things standing between me and getting hired because HR I could deal with computers no problem, having to go through humans who HAS AI scares me that I may never ever get hired I'm just throwing resume after resume after resume to no avail

[@ToroHarfang]

This is a truncated take: All the elements are true, but you do have to stay up to date on those changes, start the pivot before you're looking for a job that no longer exists. We're all slaves to the current job market, and nobody wants to be stuck job-hunting with qualifications that don't appeal to what people are hiring for. The key, as always in computer science, is having core general skills and knowing how to apply that to look competent enough at any job. Unless you're dedicated/lucky enough to make your own business, then the only thing that matters is knowing how to (or hiring someone who knows how to) sell that product.

[@hairymcnipples]

Not every element is true, because automation literally is "taking people's jobs", that's just what automation means - replacing a person with an automatic process.

[@Lusius8879]

I appreciate and love the message, and agree with the sentiment. HOWEVER. There is a big but to this. Specifically in the "I learn and AI takes my job" one. In modern society, due to how stuff is set up, the stuff you learnt is not useful for anything but your own fun. If it was your carreer for actual living money, you'll be reset to near-0 and be forced to redo your studying time but for something else. Even if that something else has overlap with what you learnt before, it'll only cut you like 15% of the time at best.

[@Bluefiresea]

Meanwhile scientists have successfully fully scanned and made a digital program of a fruit fly brain.

[@haldalas]

Cool but not seeing the connection here lol

[@jackrabbit1704]

@@haldalasIt means we’ll be able to do same to human’s, and or create AI based on actual brain systems rather than interpreted neural networks.

[@Pokellectibles94]

I've seen this video game before and it doesn't end well lol

[@seonteeaika]

@@haldalas They used the digital version of the brain in some mechanical task, basically mind uploading. It also partly solved some more fundamental concerns of if there is anything mystical about brain that can never be seen or understood. On the otherhand knowing the brain is just mechanical technology like everything else is an advancement in science.

[@0x6e95]

@@jackrabbit1704 The human brain is so many magnitudes more complicated. I genuinely don't think we're anywhere close to fully scanning a human brain and mapping it like that. The day we do, I think we'll actually have several breakthroughs when it comes to getting to an actual AGI/ASI.

[@clencheastwood1571]

Ya, just tell your landlord that you're pivoting and pay them with your "understanding of technology"

[@cherriberri8373]

No literally. Most useless and self defeating clip I think Thor has ever made! AI is taking jobs. Period. And it needs to be regulated to avoid an already awful job market from spiraling.

[@Lucas-xn5bn]

​​@@cherriberri8373Its likely that the governments around the world might do something about AI, as if AI becomes advanced enough to replace every single job, nobody will have enough money to buy stuff which in the long term will just harm the core of capitalism and that is consumerism. The best case scenario for this type of future is an UBI system implemented to complement the loss of millions of jobs so that the cycle can continue.

[@humans_do_stuff]

@@cherriberri8373 AI can't be regulated, is just a technology. Corpos and governments are the ones that should be regulated to decrease cost of living instead of increasing it, while the job and house market become more inaccessible for the human beings who actually live in this world. AI should make our lives easier, not harder.

[@robertschwalb4469]

My concern with that last bit is: "Well I learned a thing, and AI did take my job, and I can use what learned to do other things, but the AI can do those things too". This seems like a plausible scenario to me. What if the AI can pivot just like I can?

[@blckspice5167]

AI only learns what is taught. If you learn something, you probably learned three other skills in the process of doing so. Your life experience will always trump AI's limited learning capacity and the lack of foresight by the creator

[@robertschwalb4469]

@@blckspice5167 "If you learn something, you probably learned three other skills in the process of doing so" I would say that this depends on two things. What thing you're learning and what things you already know. For example, if you learn to draw you will also learn how to tell good art from bad art better than people who don't know how to draw. And maybe you use photoshop to do it as well, but it's possible you didn't learn photoshop in the process and you already knew how to use it. "Your life experience will always trump AI's limited learning capacity" AI has been improving and changing drastically in just the last few years. For that reason, I believe it unreasonable to assume any limit on it's learning capability at this time. I was told by my graphic design teacher that it was very secure career path because computers can't really do it, that was in around 2017. Now, computers can very much do a lot of that stuff. Now artists are not out of the job at this time, but to assume the AI will never take it seems premature.

[@nocodenoblunder6672]

It doesn’t need to pivot ai all ready digested any field

[@robertschwalb4469]

@@nocodenoblunder6672 I have no idea what you're trying to say

[@nocodenoblunder6672]

@@robertschwalb4469 I just dislike the last part you said. „What if the AI can pivot just like I can?“ Pivoting implies to me you are going out of your field learning something new, which is not the case for ai as it already learned everything that was fed into it. It does not habe to pivot.

[@derpymule7977]

Good argument for learning in general, not so much for learning specific things. From a purely pragmatic standpoint (which, of course, isn’t how humans work, but it is what the argument in the video is based on), while learning -> AI stealing and learning -> AI not stealing are both positive outcomes, one is significantly more positive than the other. The logical conclusion of this is that you should aim to learn a subject AI is less likely to replace, which is kind of the opposite of the implication in the video. Whether that conclusion is true or not, it is a flaw in the argument as given.

[@GaussianEntity]

Except that nobody really knows what AI will replace. Tons of people think lawyers are safe for instance (they're not). You really want to future-proof yourself? Learn math and physics. AI likely won't be able to replace anyone with strong physics fundamentals for quite some time and having those fundamentals gives you a huge advantage into practically any field.

[@ErebusGraves]

​@GaussianEntity ai is already designing literal rocket engines that look like some kind of futuristic space age thing. It is theoreticly better than anything we have developed. Ai is based in math. Math and science are the most stable things in existence. Math and science are the rules of the universe. Ai is best when it is following a rule path.

[@GaussianEntity]

@ErebusGraves I'm gonna tell you this right now. The current iteration of AI is based on patterns. It can detect patterns at a rate that we cannot. But that's what it is: patterns. It still needs to be tested for accuracy. It doesn't matter if the AI can see new patterns if they don't stand up to scrutiny. A lot of engineering projects are like that: good on paper, needs work irl. Also, your understanding of science is incredibly naive based on your last few statements. There's a lot of problems in the real world that don't have neat solutions. Even with our most sophisticated tech, some problems still elude us so it's important to understand what the limitations of the current tech are to understand what to do in the future.

[@hairymcnipples]

LLMs are not going to replace lawyers, that's laughable. Yeah, yeah, I know, they just need to solve "digital hallucinations". But they aren't a bug, they're a feature. They're literally how LLMs work. Maybe the day will come when there's an AI lawyer, sure. But it won't develop out of the current tech.

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

Am I stealing the job from you if I deserve it more and literally EVERYONE IN THE WORLD is better off if you get replaced?

[@theshowman4510]

Here’s another thing, if you get into the trades you don’t have to worry about AI. Downside is…your in the trades and have to deal with trades people which can be a bit…annoying to put it lightly.

[@Demopans5990]

Also, now that AI is a thing, more people will head to the trades, making pay crud.

[@haldalas]

All people can be annoying. Some of the worst are the ones who think they’re super smart because they have jobs as like doctors or professors. I’m sure tradespeople do it too but the ones I interact with are typically pretty nice folks

[@theshowman4510]

@@Demopans5990 not really as most people really don’t want to be plumbers having to deal with possible poop. Electricians you are dealing with energy that can kill you in one sec.

[@HakaYonder]

@@theshowman4510 As someone who worked with concrete, while my life wasn't at risk, my long-term health was. We had open silo so the sand would get everywhere (even if it was closed, at the very least I'd still suffer since I'd need to take it out and move it around & work with it, and some would end up in the air). Needed eye drops after a year because it it just became unbearable on some days even if I was mostly ok. The concrete would stain your clothes and shoes and you're never getting that off. Heavy machines everywhere and not everyone is expected to wear a helmet, so guess who ended up in hospital needing stiches on their head cuz a big pile of metal wasn't as far as it should be. It was me. And it wasn't even the only injury I suffered there. Broke my hand twice and I can't even count all the cuts I suffered (even while wearing gloves) cuz no one bothered to round up corners of like half the things made out of metal.

[@ham_the_spam4423]

@@HakaYonder "come with me, and you'll see, a world of OSHA violations!"

[@y_wlifestyle6962]

The answer he gives contains a few false statements. "A job is future proof. AI is irrelevant. Telling people what to care about. " It dilutes the positive message of investing in yourself. Completely disregarding and dismissing historical fact that technology has and will always have a large impact on the available jobs is being dishonest.

[@SylvanApe]

Yes, dam that technology for the few jobs it cost short term VS the MASSIVE improvement in life for practically all people on the planet. You do realize that employment as a % of population, quality of health, life and wealth have all improved because of tech.

[@maitele]

@@SylvanApe My life hasn't improved whatsoever as a direct result of GPT type AIs. The only effects I've observed ever since it appeared are this: -Artists and creators are disturbed and struggling for stability -The internet is full of openly dishonest slop -Search engines have become noticeably less reliable and more difficult to use due to the AI "summaries" and AI articles clogging results -In general, the entire internet feels less tangible, less personable. None of these are positive. The GPT AI industry is explicitly vampiric and made its billions off of abandoning ethics and chasing the dollar. Be honest, because these assholes never are

[@SylvanApe]

@@maitele "Artists and creators are disturbed and struggling for stability" Haven't they always - I mean printing totally destroyed painters and recordings destroyed musicians. right? My point wasn't to do with now, hence "cost short term" it was the fact people always rail against new tech, pointlessly, until it becomes the norm we don't want to live without. On a lighter note... "The internet is full of openly dishonest slop" As someone who remembers its invention, it always was, it's just shinier now. "Search engines have become noticeably less reliable and more difficult to use due to the AI "summaries" and AI articles clogging results" Nope, it was never reliable-neither were books. Also, you can filter for this. "In general, the entire internet feels less tangible, less personable." It never was personal or tangible, people just wished it was.

[@maitele]

@@SylvanApe While these problems were around before, yes, you have to be seriously naïve bordering on completely ignorant to not have noticed that AI's advent has made them all noticeably worse. OpenAI's "licensing deals" with the likes of TIME Magazine are perfectly illustrative of this, given that in return for forfeiting all the data OpenAI wasn't able to unethically scrape under the false pretense of scientific research, TIME would be obligated to integrate OpenAI products into their company workflow… and OpenAI's entire commitment to this deal was that they *might* help TIME use AI to rise above the mountains of generated slop that *their own product,* built on *the very data they're "licensing", was obviously going to create. If you don't see that as the straight up protection racket it is, you need to get your head checked. OpenAI used creatives' works to create a machine that they know will flood the internet with high volume garbage, so they sell "services" to keep the rich conglomerates out of the muck and leave the rest to drown. That's not at all the same as the printing press, or photography, or whatever tired nonsense you're going to try to use to cast people who see shysters for what they are as "useless luddites." These companies are Not your friends, and they have literally zero interest in benefiting anyone ever. They just want market capture, and then to *jack the cost of information* the second that they're the only viable source of it. Simple as.

[@uberculex]

@@SylvanApe The point is now those things are MORE common and easier to make. The people who use AI the most are large corporations like google that use it to save money and make their product actively worse to use and scammers. Scammers LOVE that stuff because they can outproduce anyone trying to moderate it.

[@scorchthelost]

I do electronics repair at the moment. I'm tired of electronics and software. I want to learn bricklaying, carpentry, and roofing. I want to build my own house someday. At 34 I didn't think I'd be switching my career path, but turning my only consistent hobby into work was a mistake.

[@PJ-hi1gz]

I've been hearing this a lot recently, makes me happy I didn't turn my hobby into a job, even though for years I was always thinking what if. Is it the repetitiveness tied to the long work hours?

[@scorchthelost]

@@PJ-hi1gz It definitely is. I think if it were like half the hours I might enjoy it more. But also doing computers and electronics all day makes me not want to do anything of my own once I'm home. I've been meaning to reinstall Windows on my main computer for months, but I don't have the desire to do so. I'd rather play solitaire with real cards. Or walk 10 miles for no reason.

[@PJ-hi1gz]

@@scorchthelost i feel you, I think the main issue in general with modern life is the too long working hours. We need to reduce the working week and/or day.

[@EhurtAfy]

I would suggest going into more of a skilled trade, carpentry, bricklaying, and roofing are not going to be lucrative. I see nothing but undocumented workers and drug addicts in those jobs anymore. My dad was a carpenter for 20 years, he stopped in 2016 because there was no more demand for his skill and price. Try HVAC, electrical, welding, something along those lines. I do pretty well as a handyman doing mostly drywall & paint, but my situation is fairly unique and I'm very good at what I do

[@scorchthelost]

@@EhurtAfy I'm not really after lucrative, I can do some handyman things already. I can do basic plumbing, hvac, wiring, painting, carpentry, and more. But I think that if I can learn to do brickwork and make it beautiful that I should do alright for myself. It'll be interesting to see how things work out for sure

[@FelipeASaito]

My father always told me "Learning doesn't guarantee your success, but not learning guarantees your failure"

[@VictoriaWalker8]

Look, I can understand that not all automation can replace a human... But explain that to stakeholders of a company. Good luck.

[@-._____-]

The real question is what to learn

[@stevenfalzon3340]

@-._____- just start. it doesn't matter what it is. the more you learn, the more you learn about yourself. once you know yourself, you know what to learn.

[@SaltyMaud]

Learn to use AI in your job

[@TheFisterin]

Maybe ask ai?😉

[@duzypokoj1151]

@@stevenfalzon3340 ok I will start by learning elvish language from tolkien books, might be handy!

[@Glmorrs1]

Hey, I worked at an AI startup until last spring, don’t worry absolutely it taking your job. If AI takes your job, it probably won’t have it for all that long. Also, in the future, if you need medical test done, ask if the lab uses AI assisted pathology, and if they say yes, ask how you can opt out and get a diagnosis by a human doctor.

[@dragonbro5532]

Ya know, as someone who's struggled with this same line of thinking, it never occurred to me to break it down like that. Thank you bud!

[@MegaAniLinkFan]

The problem is not how we value ourselves, it's how companies value people. And the average consumer who values the AI over the worker.

[@FoxElliott]

In theory this works out, but realistically how many times does someone need to change careers entirely before an entire field or job market is replaced. AI can already write code fluently. I contract for a company that tests new models on this, it's not in the scope I think of what most can even imagine.

[@RockinAfr0]

Even when I started university 10 years ago, there were sooo many people that focused on job chance and such, but that doesn't REALLY matter when starting to learn something. Even if you start something and you discover this is not for you, you will now know that and can use the gained knowledge and experiences to better narrow down what you do want and to have a better chance at finding a job that fits you and that makes you happy! When the means to an end is "learning something new", always take that into consideration, along with potential opportunities that it unlocks, when making a decision! If you read this: good luck out there, you got this! :)

[@purplepenguin43]

Job market availability is a good thing to be focused on as if you enter a shrinking market you could be in for a rough time finding a job as your competting with experienced workers who just got let off. But the market could be shrinking for any number of reasons not just AI and markets have areas, and some areas might be growing while others are shrinking. Looking at the market is a good idea but you gotta focus down on whats local to you who in your town is hiring, and national news headlines are never going to be specific enough to fill that need.

[@letoast7480]

The problem with this is TIME. If it takes me 10 years to develop a set of skills and AI makes those skills obsolete overnight, then i'm screwed. If AI can learn skills faster than I can keep up with, then I'll be left behind.

[@Avalanchanime]

You are reasoning out of fear. And it is ok. But I assure you, artificial intelligence should have never being called "intelligence"... It is frustrating how not intelligent it is 7_7... Research about it MORE. People like Thor understand AI and that is why the are not concern about it. And remember, do not oppose to unavoidable change, *embrace it* and *use it* to your favor. Crying about both of our jobs (yes mine too, kinda) going "puff", it is better to focus in what we can learn to not being left behind. For starters I am using as much AI I can to make my life easier. I'm an translator, I ASSURE YOU my job is danger, but whining about it won't help me achieve anything x)

[@Gandhi_Physique]

We don't know exactly where AI will go. It is the worst it will ever be right now. But yeah, it doesn't do good to just sit in worry.

[@GBM0311]

this is going to age like milk. KZbin needs a remind me feature

[@zhen86]

Age like milk? Why?

[@Iamonepercent]

​@@zhen86let me guess, you had to read about 9/11 in a history book. Humans have advanced more since that day than the rest of all human history.

[@Hiken_Bakuzan]

@@zhen86 because you can't "pivot" to anything if AI is reducing the ammount of available jobs because employer see no point on hiring people if some AI can do the same thing you can't "pivot" from paying bills after you got fired over an AI and you desperately look for jobs, that are also occupied by AI

[@zhen86]

@@Hiken_Bakuzan You did not listen to all his scenario, and he concluded that you need to keep learning. Factory workers in USA got to learn new skills after machine took over most of the automation. You having understanding of the new tech that AI replace can make you smarter and enable you to use it as a base to make use of the AI. AI is just part automation and machines. New jobs are created after industry revolution, and many jobs was lost due to industry revolution.

[@toxiccc777]

@@zhen86 What you fail to understand is, that there are people that can not easily learn. It is actually the majority of people.

[@cameronsalmon1314]

I learned the ins and outs of drug trafficking and AI took my job. I’m now in the slammer.

[@TheFisterin]

Well you can always try racketeering or illegal gambling if anything else fails 😂

[@Mechanix04]

99% i agree with Thor,this is my first time I disagree because: go get educated,takes years to climb and be master of your craft. AI comes in and takes you job. Thats what your life was,imagine if you pit 20yrs into being a mechanic and then you have to start over. Easier said than done.

[@preocts4086]

From a different point of view: If you worked 20 years as a mechanic and have zero learned skills that don't immediately carry forward to the next thing in your life, I'm not sure what you were doing for 20 years.

[@StreakyBaconMan]

This idea that your job could be made obsolete with technology and everything you've ever learned becomes obsolete and you have to start your life over from scratch just isn't accurate. That isn't what happens in reality. If someone invented an automatic car repairing robot sure you might not be able to earn a living as a mechanic anymore - but the skills you have that made you a great mechanic can be applied to other types of jobs that are not obsolete, and sure you might require additional training or education to do those jobs but you're not starting from scratch - you were still a mechanic for 20 years and have all that experience and knowledge to draw on.

[@TheVelvetTV_Riesenglied]

wow all these idealistic people in the comments in what jobs should the skills translate to and what if they are taken by AI as well? just a pretty useless take other than "stay optimistic and learn new skills", which didn't need a table

[@GaussianEntity]

The thing is to learn being a mechanic, you need some understanding of physics and engineering. If you spent 20 years doing that stuff, you'll likely also have a surprisingly adaptable understanding of physics to the point where you could fix related machinery. That's what he means by adaptability. Doesn't hurt to actually study some math and physics directly from books to truly augment your knowledge base.

[@StreakyBaconMan]

@@TheVelvetTV_Riesenglied Countless times throughout history a new technological innovation has rendered countless jobs obsolete, and for the most part the people who did those jobs that become obsolete adapt their skills to a new job. In the past almost everybody was a farmer - and if they weren't a farmer they probably had a job that only existed due to demand from farmers, or because of a product supplied by farmers. That didn't gradually change over time, the amount of farming jobs was absolutely decimated over the period of just a few years after the invention of things like the tractor and the combine harvester that reduced the amount of human labour required to tend to a given amount of land that crops are grown on by orders of magnitude. Some of those who previously worked as farmers did not adapt, and they absolutely did struggle as a result of those inventions. But most people who worked as farmers adapted - it was probably bad for most of them in the short term but in the long term they did just fine because they learned how to apply the skills and knowledge they have to a new job. Personally I am not all that worried about AI taking jobs. I am sure it will take SOME jobs but it's not going to be nearly as bad as people think it is. AI is extremely expensive to develop and run and it's already at the point where companies are having to create brand new infrastructure specifically to accommodate the development of AI tools beyond where they are currently at. Companies might we willing to make a loss in the short term on these products to try and capture as much of the market as possible while the technology is still new but eventually they have to turn a profit or go bankrupt. Once the cost for consumers of AI tools is more reflective of the cost to develop and offer AI tools to consumers while also turning a profit to keep investors happy it'll severely limit the things people can actually use AI tools for without losing money themselves.

[@N0monis]

Another way to look at this advice is: Focus on what you actually have control over. For the most part, we don't have control over what technology will automate some job, but we have control over what jobs we can do.

[@irmiwolf]

but that isnt what artists want to hear, they want to hear that their easily replacable skills are still important and wont be replaced by AI for a vast majority of jobs. Sure the top brass of artists will still have their job since the novelty of having hand drawn art will still make people want to buy it just like hand made pottery, but becoming a potter nowadays is a hobby and very few can make a living with it.

[@Aki-ow9hd]

​@@irmiwolf I mess around with AI and I have been a programmer since I was 13. Programming is an "easily replaceable" skill because the brunt of our work can be delegated to AI-generated code. Code automation is not new, but it has always existed before AI. The same can be said about any field that automation can do. But part of my journey taught me how to mess with systems and their structure. This translates to being able to navigate most obstacles that present the same problem very easily. Adapting with AI, I could complete my projects much faster, but I'm still the one managing the projects and organizing them for later iterations. That's not "easily replaceable." Same goes for artists, they're not easily replaceable by stable diffusion. And even for those that specialize in drawing art, their job is not getting replaced. Unfortunately the same problems that plague it almost three years from now still exist and we're just approaching the theoretical limits of deep learning, but it's hard to know with these black-box models. Stable diffusion has no continuity, renders at lower resolutions, can't give you a PSD file, and is terrible at details. But it does make a damn good picture at first glance.

[@basteala525]

@@irmiwolf Why would they want to hear it? You put in all that time and effort and money into a career only to see it completely tank. Your employability may have gone away but those student loans won't.

[@humans_do_stuff]

@@basteala525 It's a human government issue, a monopoly on decision making. They need to stop killing people with taxes and prices. If there's no job opportunities for anyone, people will go straight to poverty while govs and corpos are safe in their bubbles charging whatever they want to people who can't afford a living becase of them. Late capitalism is a joke.

[@kibels894]

This assumes the cost of learning is zero, which it definitely is not if you aren't interested in AI and have better and more interesting things to learn.

[@RickyBobbySanchez]

Google is free

[@AliceHalley]

If you already have an internet connection it basically is zero. You don't need a fancy expensive school or course to learn things, if anything it's worse than just staying up to date with technology in your field. Most roles these days have ample free online resources and software. I often think free learning is better than paid learning, since usually for something to enter a curriculum it has to have been around for a while, and thus will be less relevant if your following along with software updates and upcoming technology. That's not to say it's easy, but it's absolutely available.

[@sieda666]

@@AliceHalley Part of the appeal of formal "paid" education and educational institutions is that people with both knowledge and experience have curated the curriculum in a way that not only makes learning easier, but it's also easier to trust that what you're learning is worth the time and effort at the end. There's also a value to having a bit of institutional uniformity to your collection of knowledge and skills so that your work is more easily interchangeable with that of other people. There are a TON of free resources online with all kinds of factually inaccurate information for anyone willing to put the time in to look it up, and there are even more with factually correct information that lacks important context. Just wading into that ocean of information (let alone emerging with a destructive misconception/misinformation) takes time, energy, an aptitude and an appetite for independent learning. For many people just getting by this combo is "unaffordable" even if google is "free".

[@Kero-zc5tc]

Yeah I thought the same idk why everyone is acting like it’s about money, it’s about time really. I could learn something maybe do a mooc but in the same time I’ve learned something irrelevant I could’ve been making money working, spending time with family and friends. It’s important to make a choice though delay too long and you will have discovered you’ve done nothing.

[@DIVAD291]

@@RickyBobbySanchez The word cost doesn't strictly refer to a monetary cost.

[@TimSavage3]

That is quite possibly one of the best opinions I've ever heard on the subject.

[@kunkleeeeeeee77]

I thought I had seen the end of Truth tables. Thor made me wrong.

[@IAmMrGreat]

Except it completely disregards peoples ability to learn. Everyone learns at different speeds and when the only jobs become ones requiring you to be in the top 10% in intelligence, then 90% of the population will be without a job. Technology is progressing incredibly quickly and at the current rate AI will probably be self improving within the century and if AI can produce anything you need, serve people and improve itself, what's left for us to do? Even if we somehow never reach the point where AI can improve itself, how many people do you actually think are capable of competing? It's not just a question of education, genetically there are huge differences in us and our ability to learn different things. Industrialization has made a huge change in what sectors people work in. Before we started automating everything the vast majority of people were working in producing, packaging and transporting food, a simple but physically demanding job. Right now more than half of all people on earth are working in the service sector and those numbers are going to look way worse in Europe and North America.

[@johndinner4418]

Disregards the fact that even if you learned something, you have to pivot so it's actually a lose situation compared to if you had learned something else that you could apply immediately. It was never about a completely lost situation but rather if it was a good option compared to others.

[@ALittleMessi]

This is assuming "pivoting" is incredibly simple and what you learned isn't also being replaced at every potential place you'd earn a paycheck

[@MightyDantheman]

Yeah... If AI replaces you at a job you learned, chances are that AI has already replaced anything that you can directly pivot to.

[@Matg1699]

"Can you paint a beautiful masterpiece?" "... can you?"

[@ALittleMessi]

Not really sure where "learn stuff" fits in with "keeping your job even though AI would be significantly cheaper to replace you with long term", or where "pivoting" is considered easy in that context but sure. This is one take I don't really agree with. Sure, always learn more. That doesn't get at the heart of the actual question asked though

[@tpkdm71]

Learning stuff isn’t going to prevent AI from taking one’s job. But hey, you can feel good you learned something new in only 200 times as long as it took AI to perfect it. 😜 Society is screwed if we don’t make the right socio-economic changes to account for the disruption that is AI

[@steve8t2]

I agree. "You win if you learn things" doesn't answer the question: "Is cyber-sec future proof vs AI?"

[@brandond2394]

THOR. Ever since i have started watching you. I have found that you have knowledge beyond what people can understand.. please dont stip listening to this person. Wise beyond belief.

[@AliceHalley]

The weird thing with AI is that people seem to treat it differently to all other modern automation. It's no bigger of an employment apocalypse as anything else going on. If you get a job out of school and never learn anything beyond that Someone will automate your job eventually. If it's not AI, it's a build engineer, or a tools programmer, an art pipeline, or a software package. As long as you are staying even somewhat up to date with technology, you won't be automated out of your job, you'll always be years ahead. It has been that way forever and I don't see it changing any time soon.

[@wing0gund908]

It's treated differently because the old form of automation took away blue collar jobs so nobody cared. They just told them to stop whining and learn to code. Now AI is taking white collar jobs so everyone is up in arms because you can't AI your way out of manual labor yet so all the white collar workers about to lose their job are being told to learn to be a plumber.

[@phillyphakename1255]

Best advice I've ever been given is to never stop looking for your next job. Sometimes you pop out of your prairie dog mound for your weekly browse through Indeed, and decide that your current job is pretty great. Sometimes you find a potential job or even a hidden gem and you apply. Sometimes you find a path you might want to pursue, with skills or education needed, and dedicate resources to reach that goal. But no matter what, keep looking. Once a week, once a month, keep your finger up feeling the winds over your career path. They will take you where you need to go if only you put up your sail and capture the wisdom of the wind.

[@sieda666]

Not specific to AI, but what's different compared to previous centuries of human history and past automation of labor is the increasingly rapid pace of the change and the exponential decline in the comparative productivity of unskilled/unspecialized and/or technologically deficient labor. Additionally, most places in the world have yet to make it a social priority to provide low-cost, accessible education for all as a way to help facilitate this rapid change in technology and production in a way that doesn't leave entire swaths of people left behind, which flows into my next point: violent social unrest and destructive political populism as a reaction to unevenly distributed advancements in production and technology is ALSO a tale as old as time and it's doubtful that will change anytime soon either. It's probably a good thing to be a bit critical of how "AI" is developed and deployed.

[@seonteeaika]

"It has been that way forever" - Wrong, the AI age has only really started since large language models became main stream. AI as a technology is still in its babysteps. Human race doesn't have a precedence on how to deal with something equally or smarter or capable than themselves. Machines have always been more capable in specific tasks, but our brain has always come out the top, so far...

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

The economy is tanking mostly due to automation, AI is a new form of automation on top of the existing automations that are already causing a recession. Thor is a guy who's main skill is manipulating people, that's who he is, and he's manipulating his audience into engaging with his content by lying to them about how AI isn't a threat. Instead of actually tackling the issue and the socio-economic impact of it, and the type of economy we should structure ourselves around to protect ourselves from AI, he makes a feel good argument about learning skills that has no practical value in the discussion.

[@vubito3245]

Thank you! I really needed this today ❤! I really mean it.

[@Kio_Kurashi]

"The only thing that matters is if you learn something or not. Invest in yourself. AI is irrelevant." Now to create an AI bot to post this on every tweet that says AI is taking your jobs away with a link to this short.

[@HaveYouHeardOfManedWolves]

It'd almost definitely be more efficient to make a non-AI bot to do it, since there aren't any widely known AI models designed to parse text

[@Kio_Kurashi]

@HaveYouHeardOfManedWolves I know, but you see there's the irony of using AI to do it _and_ my own required learning on how.

[@majina.m8112]

This is why i love your commentary, thanks for the encouragement

[@Scuuurbs]

It’s a nice sentiment until you bring up the Despicable Me meme with a recursive “You learn something -> AI takes your job -> you learn something -> AI takes your job ->” that ends with you in debt from paying for knowledge and no way to finance your next pivot - which will get taken by AI anyway. You can’t just invest in yourself. You have to invest in yourself _intelligently._

[@blckspice5167]

Disagree, there are secondary skills to every skill you learn. It's literally about the journey, giving you extra tools. You can always just paint walls if you can't paint murals.

[@TheHobbyistT]

Same logic I used when deciding to learn facilities management as a trade. Many told me “you need to specialize or you’ll never make money”. But they don’t get- if everyone is a plumber, nobody is going to call a plumber, BUT if you have the knowledge of a plumber, carpenter, electrician, mason, or painter there will ALWAYS be another opportunity you can pick up. Don’t screw yourself over by specializing, remain versatile and adaptable.

[@shadowldrago]

While I know what he means, “invest in yourself” sounds like some LinkedIn lunatic shit.

[@D-Res]

So many more people, including many of my closest friends need to hear this…. over, and over, and over

[@boudicajones6524]

>describes a situation in which AI destroys your life “AI is irrelevant” Okay

[@Taima]

Thor is basically a Stoic. It’s irrelevant in the sense that you have no control over it happening. All you can do is improve yourself/try to be prepared regardless of what happens. Control what you can and try to not stress about what you can’t. Ironically most people are more geared towards the opposite.

[@Shining4Dawn]

AI taking your job does not equate to AI ruining your life. If you're a salaried employee and your job is the number 1 most important thing to you - you should take the time to consider your priorities. If you're independent - it's literally impossible for AI to take your job. It may take away a number of your clients, but so does your competition. You'll still be left with the more loyal clients who prefer whatever unique value comes from your skill.

[@strimlul1135]

@@Shining4Dawn Can you explain better? For the great majority of people in the entire world, their job is their most important thing after family since it's their livelihood by living paycheck to paycheck.

[@MrThefatheroftheyear]

Genuinely incredibly inspirational, and remarkably intelligently uplifting!!! This video clip should become the most shared prevalent response to ALL of these …. “OH No!!! Must Please Fear A.i. questions!” Thanks Thor! You da man fo realz bruh!

[@dead2me82]

You missed the main key component: Did you learn the RIGHT skills? It doesn’t matter if you just learn skills. You have to learn skills that are marketable and in demand.

[@aldanemclaughlin6977]

This is the video I needed bro. I was just stressing out telling my parents I don’t know what I want to do because I got scared of ai just last night but this is exactly what I needed to snap out of it. Thank you man.

[@requiemslullaby3657]

The cost of education is too high for someone middle aged to afford starting over and learning starting from scratch dude.

[@JDubST]

You know you don't need to go to school to learn something new right? Hell you don't even need to buy online courses on udemy or Coursera. You can learn just about anything for free online and even find KZbin videos. All free.

[@preocts4086]

Education comes in many other forms as well as paid tuition. You never "start over" you shift from where you are today and carry everything you've learned to that point with you.

[@BFedie518]

That's why it's "pivot," not "start from scratch."

[@EffervescentPhantasm]

You're right that the cost of education is prohibitive, but school is not the only way to learn. Most of my skills in blender and unity came from me teaching myself. I taught myself C# decades ago by buying a book and going through the exercises and studying the code inside to figure out what it did. I've learned blender and unity and rigging because I wanted to prove I could make a VTuber (which I did.) I learned Gimp cause I wanted to make cool textures and do cool digital art stuff. Now I'm learning how to draw and paint by studying what other people have done and trying to replicate it and ask questions to my art friends. One of the things that my college comp sci professor taught me is that "by the end of your four years here, the first two years are going to be irrelevant and out dated. Technology is just moving too fast. So part of my job will be to teach you how to learn on your own so that you can pick up any new technology that comes out." He was right. If there's something you want to do, more than likely there's a free tutorial on KZbin or a book written somewhere detailing how to do it. And if not, sometimes it's just a matter of doing your research and putting in some effort

[@NickFallsFromTheRoof]

You do not a degree to start in IT. You will need to study at night and get better if you want to progress. but you can literally start a help desk level 1 job tomorrow.

[@brysonpresley2658]

This is why i subed. I love this content

[@bummer6]

this tactic only works if you're not going to be relying on the job to sustain yourself, because if you were, then you're shit out of luck unless you can afford to spend another few years learning something else, which many people can't afford.

[@ck.249]

I've noticed his understanding of real world employment struggles isn't very good

[@Kero-zc5tc]

⁠@@ck.249tbh a lot of what he says isn’t that good, it may sound motivational but I find it lacks substance. It’s better than nothing tho. (He also pivots away from questions, this doesnt answer the question particularly well)

[@ethandull8087]

​​@@ck.249He sounds like a person who's never been employed before.

[@anpesx]

Dude tried so hard to turn the last column into something good lol.

[@calmpagan4621]

I am forklift driver, good luck AI 😂

[@ombrezz7030]

@@calmpagan4621 learn how to drift then convince your boss it's necessary for the job, no way AI can take your job now

[@retardretarded1145]

You do know that theres a driverless forklift right? Your job is literally gone in 10 years

[@chrissmith3587]

I spent time with robot forklifts a month ago, AI isn’t needed They’re like giant robot puppies that occasionally chase you

[@BigDaddyWes]

That's actually an extremely easy process to automate.

[@LukeCrawford-n7n]

@@calmpagan4621 You're in one of the most automatable careers possible. There's huge incentive to automate your position, and the hardware already exists

[@rmidifferent8906]

Being worried when leaks say that new OpenAI model is not even consistently beating the old one

[@GaussianEntity]

The current iteration of AI has likely reached a bottleneck tbh. They need more resources and it's not doing much more in terms of actual output. Which probably means it's back to the drawing board.

[@bethnonyabusiness6240]

One caveat- it depends on your job market. If you work in coding, cyber security, a very technical field of any kind... you have job security because humans can adapt to change faster than a learning ai. Art fields,much harder for job security. And it's not all because of ai. If a company thinks they've found a cheaper way to do your art field, they will close your department and fire everyone from it to hire three interns to do that cheaper way. The animation job market knows this first hand, as theres barely any studios hiring or out there with the intention to keep full time staff. It's all a gig economy, from the companies that contract out work to the studios that do that work. And while ai can't really animate, those companies will still try to use ai to skip on paying someone. So, if you are in cyber sec and your company is hungry for ai, it's not the ai that will ruin your career there at that company- it's the company ruining it for themselves. Still, learn cyber sec, animation, what ever. But take a few business courses to learn how to read a contract, then keep going and learn shit. And be mindful of greedy companies.

[@GaussianEntity]

Art isn't that insecure. Companies will do stupid shit like sack their IT departments so that's not really indicative of anything. Even if AI manages to do top quality CGI, it's probably not going to replace artists due to artists still having a better understanding of the tools available.

[@ErebusGraves]

​@GaussianEntity tell that to meshy. Ai is as stupid as it's ever going to get. Meshy can create a 3d model, you can bake high definition onto the models, and it can animate said models. All this can be done in about ten minutes and that's mostly due to the human doing the inputs. You could easily automate everything using an ai assistant bot. What will the field look like in 6 months, 1year, 5 years? game companies are already creating ai games with their massive asset libraries. Artists are f****.

[@GaussianEntity]

@ErebusGraves Okay? They still require stupid amounts of energy that the current infrastructure can't even support. It doesn't run on magic. And even then, the kinds of inputs it will accept will only get more technical as time goes on which only experienced people will know and understand. AI is just a tool. It's up to a tool user to make use of that. Video games actually show us this as a lot of the major titles just reuse assets rather than make new stuff. Much easier to do that if people are still throwing money at you. AI in its current iteration is a pipe dream. It has a lot of technical problems that make it very impractical for a lot of industries.

[@Lucas-xn5bn]

​​@@ErebusGraves Meshy still has a long way to come before it becomes decent, I asked it to make a simple 3d model and it turned out to be pretty shit (I used images tried everything still looked shitty), so unless the AI field has some next big revolution, it is going to take a while to develop to its fullest potential.

[@asylbekabdrakhmanov4866]

Thank you Thor! I needed those words, sometimes I just got really upset thinking about my future and ai. I think your approach will do, no regrets.

[@darkjackhammer6564]

EVERY TIME THIS MANS SPEAKS IT MAKES ME CRY MANLY TEARS. For real tho it's so true that investing in yourself is always going to be better than doing nothing.

[@thevoiceofseason2465]

You blew my mind and motivated me beyond belief. Just wow dude😮

[@dzm_mlc]

So basically you're unemployed but learned a lot, like a student

[@pun15h3r.]

Best job 🎉 Sadly not paid well.. 😂🎉

[@MichaelFrank-sj1mt]

This man has exponentially good advice as his channel grows

[@jesusmora9379]

I've seen the code AI writes, it's so bad, and when there's a problem chatGPT is not going to fix it. It's easy to write code, it takes experience to write good code, it takes a person to fix a bug.

[@Akrob55555]

Cursor with Claude 3.5 Sonnet is nothing less than amazing and Github Copilot is standard tooling for most devs. In fact, 75% of programmers use AI assistants per the latest Stack Overflow developer survey. What makes you so special that you're in a position dismiss the rest of us? "I've seen the code AI writes" almost reads like a joke in line with "I can tell from some of the pixels".

[@James-hp4yb]

Be careful about living too much in the present because it's more comfortable. Think very carefully about where this technology could be in the future and remind yourself that bug fixing in particular can be reduced to a common set of problems which means that it likely won't be difficult for AI to become better and better at solving them.

[@JPEGMars]

Thank you so much for this ❤

[@FurbleBurble]

I really like this guy. I think he's a great role-model, at least from everything I've seen.

[@JazzYachtrocker]

He’s a good dude

[@OrcOfOrchestra]

This why I like you Thor, you're like the bodhisattva of internet knowledge.

[@willium2215]

I think the logic is weird, the question is not should I learn something. The question is should I learn this topic. You’re still right to say that learning something always is a positive, but if you want to learn something to do a job, the risk of AI can make it that your endgoal is obstructed and you could have spend that time in another skill

[@DamionDamaske]

I think he's saying that even if it's not 1-to-1, you could use that knowledge as a better foundation for similar work, even if it's not the exact profession. Meaning if you *do* have to pivot, you'll still pivot less than from scratch. I mean, that's a valid question to his logic (and I don't agree with him on things either), but I think that's still pretty sound, since a lot of things are up in the air in a lot of industries anyway.

[@drock2686]

The amount of wisdom in this man is incredible. Answering a question about AI and drops advice that can be applied to everyday life

[@ethandull8087]

He's not that special. He's pitch shifting his voice to be super low, and just read a selt help book. All things you could do with very minimal effort. "Learn new skills" is not novel acvice, and if the dude knew anything about the subject, he would know that networking is by far the better option for finding employment.

[@multiagustin2]

Not with Thor on this one ngl. You don't go to 6 years of college, get replaced by an app and go "lol". Let's say you have to redo everything. Well, now you're older, less desirable for entering a new field, studying also is a huge financial and time sink too. Not even counting about getting a 6 figure debt for wanting a degree if you're in USA.

[@th1nk495]

Well this was cybersecurity in general. If you focus on a specific area of that, and AI then takes your job, you'll have an easy time finding a job in other areas of cybersecurity. The field is huge, and is still lacking people.

[@heavydremer8716]

thanks for such a positive outlook man

[@TheTrollhead]

This doesn't apply to copywriters. Your jobs are gone by 2030.

[@fujinshu]

RIP marketing department.

[@anon-fq3ud]

​@@fujinshu have you seen AI marketing? Its horrible. A productivity booster maybe, but not much else.

[@TakesTwoToTango]

Thank you. I'm a teacher. The number of people pivoting to 'kids don't need to learn X, y and z cause AI can do it' baffles me. I learned about sorting algorithms in university. I have never used a self written sorting algo in any serious project ever. That wasn't the point, understanding was. That, and i now use MergeSort to sort tests and assignments.

[@walaraubo]

The K-map of that truth table goes hard

[@00yiggdrasill00]

It can be argued that "not learning and keeping your job" can be called a win. Ive met people who don't really like putting in effort for learning but are happy in their job. It's not a behaviour I personally recommend or encourage, just that I've seen it. Taking that into account, you have a 75% chance of winning that table. I don't like gambling but that's some decent odds even for me.

[@TheSidetrackYT]

​@@00yiggdrasill00 for some reason i thought he did it that way when he covered this topic before. It's in another short. But i was pretty sure with the way he explained it was that the only losing scenario was when you didn't learn something, whether or not AI was involved

[@00yiggdrasill00]

@@TheSidetrackYT I have a vague memory of that as well.

[@Havocme7]

What is a k map?

[@neohelios77]

fkn LOVE Game Theory. It made outcomes SO much more clear

[@BeaugosseRiche]

Flawed reasoning here. Wasting months or years and potentially a lot of money to learn something that becomes irrelevant isn't offset by some supposed "capacity to pivot" acquired because of learning the now irrelevant content.

[@norbetjagamara5536]

He's fked when AI learns MS Paint

[@cnikkor]

Jobs get replaced all the time all over history (my favorite example is blacksmiths when cars took over), the only thing that prevents you from being unemployed is the ability to adapt to a changing world and for that you need additional knowledge or/and skills to move in a new directions, if your job becomes irrelevant or gets replaced - but this was always the case in every job ever, it's not a phenomenon caused by AI, it's the most natural thing every society always had to deal with since we started specializing 10.000 years ago

[@LukeCrawford-n7n]

The difference is that hardware improves slowly, and once an advance is made it's difficult and costly to install. Software improves rapidly, and scales extremely well. A lot of jobs are going to be lost very quickly

[@Dinotymek]

So many spam bots in the comments...

[@nexus1g]

Fixing life anxiety with a truth table is hella nerdy and I love it.

[@visualcortex7500]

Invest in yorself. One day you will have to fight with AI on a battlefield and the only chance for you to survive is to be as close to AI as possible.

[@leflercolin]

Always appreciate your insight and the way you explain things.

[@Schinken_]

Yea but reality is that most people dont learn compleatly new skills.

[@dougilijev4363]

Casual game theory. I love breaking this out to break people out of a conundrum

[@HeyItsEmilyLove]

I appreciate you and your content soo much. You’re very motivating and inspiring

[@axi92]

As I always say if it's a bad decision from some manager or something else: "In doubt, maximise learning" ☺️

[@ricardoludwig4787]

My biggest fear isn't that AI is gonna be good enough to replace my job, but that it will replace me without being good enough

[@DeshHere]

TELL THE COMPANIES NOT ME

[@Well_Meaning]

AI will definitely take your job, but Thor is right in that you gotta do what you're passionate about anyway.