HONDA'S GREATEST CREATION! The Story of the Suzuka Circuit

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Aidan Millward

Aidan Millward

Күн бұрын

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@Ramtamtama
@Ramtamtama Жыл бұрын
Suzuka is one of the handful of circuits that is almost unanimously agreed should remain on the F1 calendar in perpetuity
@rexthewolf3149
@rexthewolf3149 Жыл бұрын
As long as Honda is participating in F1 it probably will.
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Suzuka, Spa, Monza, Silverstone, Magny-Cours and, of course, Monaco. The rest, in my opinion, should be Interlagos, Imola, Canada, Hungary, Adelaide, Kyalami, Hockenheim, Zandvoort, Mexico and one of the American circuits. 16 Grand Prix races, like we used to have when F1 was great. I'd also get rid of the Sprint nonsense and go back to practice and pre qualifying on Friday, proper qualifying on Saturday and the race on Sunday, but that's an argument for another time......
@danielread8549
@danielread8549 Жыл бұрын
Monaco need to go away. Worst race of the year, boring af
@MatthiaGryffine
@MatthiaGryffine Жыл бұрын
But as of 2024, in April? The Japanese GP should always be in Autumn.
@johnpatricklim4509
@johnpatricklim4509 7 ай бұрын
@@rexthewolf3149 when honda pulled out of F1 after 2008, suzuka is still in the calendar....
@namenamename390
@namenamename390 Жыл бұрын
Shoutout to SouthPawRacer, who, a while ago, did a video about Suzuka's proposed layouts, which were absolutely ridiculous.
@jacekatalakis8316
@jacekatalakis8316 Жыл бұрын
It's known for more than just F1 though, it hosts the Suzuka 8 Hours and was host to a pair of NASCAR exhibition races in 96-7, and the 500cc (now MotoGP) round until the death of Daijiro Kato in 2003, when the race was moved to Motegi's infield road course
@F1Kamel_1992
@F1Kamel_1992 Жыл бұрын
And it also hosted a 6 hour endurance race in the Super GT calendar.
@jacekatalakis8316
@jacekatalakis8316 Жыл бұрын
When? I don't usually associate SuperGT with long, long endurance races@@F1Kamel_1992
@chrisguardiano6143
@chrisguardiano6143 Жыл бұрын
With the NASCAR exhibition races, they used the East course instead of the full course. This was mainly done to reduce the lap times & allow for more laps to be run as many of the drivers on the NASCAR circuit had never raced on a road course longer than 2 miles. For some context both Sears Point & Watkins Glen (the 2 road courses NASCAR raced on at the time) were 2 miles or less.
@waylandcool
@waylandcool Жыл бұрын
@@chrisguardiano6143 The Short Circuit (with the Inner Loop) at Watkins Glen is 2.4 miles and the 90's era Sears Point layout was about 2.5 miles. I don't think NASCAR has run a road course under 2 miles, except maybe the Chicago Street race.
@NukeshotMedia
@NukeshotMedia Жыл бұрын
Some of the different layouts of Suzuka were covered by SouthPawRacer, including the 3 crossover one, for those interested
@chicobicalho5621
@chicobicalho5621 Жыл бұрын
The history of Interlagos is also very interesting; created in the late 1930s in its original 8 km long layout with a fascinating "oval" on its outer perimeter, it was the favourite track of no-one less than Ronnie Peterson and Gilles Villeneuve. The original circuit had two straights, of which the current one was the short one, every kind of turn possible (but no "esses" it must be admitted) including a really cool hairpin (Sargento Curve) with 14⁰ banking, where the audience on a molehill inside the pin saw the cars almost as if from above, it also had interesting elevation changes. Destroying that track was like destroying the original Penn Sation in NY, and its substitute was similarly mediocre.
@jacekatalakis8316
@jacekatalakis8316 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if it's the greatest circuit ever, but, it's up there. I can lap Suzuka for hours in any racing game or sim for literally hours
@reptongeek
@reptongeek Жыл бұрын
Spa Francorchamps was up there too. Until they started neutering it to chuff from 2001 onwards
@corpsecoder_nw6746
@corpsecoder_nw6746 Жыл бұрын
Nordschleife, Spa-Francorchamps, Bathurst, Le Mans are all widely considered better than this place. In my opinion, I like Baku, Montreal (Gilles Villeneuve Circuit) and Singapore (Marina Bay) more than this place. Maybe the Bianchi incident has always tainted the place for me, kinda like Imola with Senna.
@e2rqey
@e2rqey Жыл бұрын
For me its probably 1. Nordschlife 2. Spa 3. Barcelona 4. Silverstone 5. Bathurst 6. Road America 7. Suzuka 8. Bahrain 9. Albert Park (🇦🇺) 10. Gilles Villeneuve (🇨🇦) 11. Monza/Imola
@DidierPeroni
@DidierPeroni Жыл бұрын
Aidan, you really need to bring back all the back catalog of your older videos. They were absolute gold
@RACECAR
@RACECAR Жыл бұрын
Cool to hear the greater context behind the construction of Suzuka. I also agree that "Groups Of Thunderous Riders" is a cool name. Its got "Bad ass Rock band" energy to it (Leather chaps and chains optional)
@Pewnhound112
@Pewnhound112 Жыл бұрын
I have always said it was like Suzuka was created in a lab by racing drivers because it is as close to the perfect track as you can possibly get.
@mrterp04
@mrterp04 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me a little of the story of Daytona-going from a “natural” course to a purpose built one
@VonBlade
@VonBlade Жыл бұрын
Degna 2 is one of my favourite corners. It's so satisfying when you get it right, and can give you a Dan Dare into the hairpin. What a glorious track.
@johnpatricklim4509
@johnpatricklim4509 7 ай бұрын
a bucket list to visit and see the japanese gp in suzuka....
@davie2675
@davie2675 Жыл бұрын
There's only two F1 races I've went out of my way to watch in years Spa and Suzuka. Both great tracks
@clintonmorris8222
@clintonmorris8222 Жыл бұрын
That wrap up at the end of the video was a genuine Clarkson bombshell...
@Jon.S
@Jon.S Жыл бұрын
My favourite circuit, it just flows so nicely, is difficult to get right, and it must feel so amazing to get a great lap done in an F1 car around there.
@koruki
@koruki Жыл бұрын
I was at Suzuka two weeks ago and very pleasantly surprised to spot they have a relationship with Spa. My two fav tracks
@y_fam_goeglyd
@y_fam_goeglyd Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I knew the "great escape" story from Julian Ryder (perfect name for a bike commentator lol), years ago when watching Moto GP (IIRC at the Saxonring). He didn't go into quite as many details, but it was a great story even so. You just added the icing on the cake! I never put him and the corner(s) together, though. I just assumed it was a Japanese word (I've never seen it written down, I know next to no Japanese, so...🤷🏻‍♀️) I _love_ Suzuka. Even the 8 hour bike race has me hooked. It's got everything a race needs and I don't need the drivers to tell me that the crowd is awesome, it's obvious over the TV. Much respect to the organisers and the crowds, who manage to do so much all over the site, with so little interference (if any) with the timetable. IMHO it's one of a handful of races that should _never_ be off the calendar, along with Melbourne (or any of the best tracks in Oz. The country has got to be there, I am not wedded to the track, though it's definitely a good one), Silverstone (let's be honest, the crowds there are pretty awesome too), Spa, Interlagos & Montreal. I'm not completely sold on Monza, but I understand why it's so important to the drivers. History is very important. So that's on my "B list" (the _should_ be on the calendar), alongside Austria, Hungary (the racing is usually better there than predicted each time), and CotA (essentially a new favourite of mine as well as the drivers). The "C list" (okay, if you insist...) has Monaco & Bahrain (though I prefer the Sakhir circuit). My "wish list" has one of the German tracks coming back because racing is a major part of German road history, ditto with France, but they don't have a suitable track anymore, sadly. The rest..., I don't really care about them. I dare say people will disagree with my "rankings", but as they say, opinions are like arseholes, everyone's got one!
@AxeGaijin
@AxeGaijin Жыл бұрын
My favourite circuit to race on in racing games hands down. This and Laguna Seca are my go to tracks to find a good general set-up for my cars.
@pete5534
@pete5534 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic job. Thank you!
@roberteddington746
@roberteddington746 Жыл бұрын
There is a great documentary sky did a couple of years ago on Ernest degner. Even if your not a bike fan it's a really interesting cold War docufilm. Plus the suzuka 8hr bike race is a amazing event especially when the fans light up the main grandstand with glow torches
@RobbertsTravelGuides
@RobbertsTravelGuides Жыл бұрын
Enjoying your videos always Aidan! A good day begins with a video of Aidan Millward :)
@photodave219
@photodave219 Жыл бұрын
It’s only a handful of circuits I e been able to win at in Gran Turismo. Love it.
@patrickhein6986
@patrickhein6986 Жыл бұрын
Definitely under my Top 5 Tracks. I also love driving in Suzuka, regardless in whatever Racing Game.
@clivedopeman
@clivedopeman Жыл бұрын
Always surprisingly overlooked when it comes to great F1 tracks. I guess the same could be said for Interlagos.
@AntoniusTyas
@AntoniusTyas Жыл бұрын
Me and my friends held a racing league in our discord server using RSS SuperFormula cars. We did our practice at Suzuka. Easy to see why. It is stunning. Be it in SuperFormula cars or F1 2022 cars, it is a huge fun to drive around. My favourite part is the exit from parabolic and into two Degner Curves. That feeling when you nailed an almost flat-out entry into Degner 1 and hard braking into Degner 2 before going all-out under the bridge... it's something else. Other parts that I love include throwing the car almost flat-out into turn 1 before nailing that precision job around the Esses complex. In a downforce-dependent cars it is a huge fun, and I love every single second of my lap. Definitely my favourite Japanese track along with Sugo.
@brettburns9321
@brettburns9321 Жыл бұрын
adian long time fan from the black country we talked before buddy. Glad you bought up road america i think its the world's most under rated track for cars. isle of man for bikes and road america or mugello for cars. great content as always my mon keep it up buddy
@Godiekgaming
@Godiekgaming 11 ай бұрын
Love Suzuka in ACC, challenging and unforgivable
@minibus9
@minibus9 Жыл бұрын
great video, I love Suzuka, would be great to get there one day
@thesunnynationg
@thesunnynationg 7 ай бұрын
I❤ Suzuka One of "my" Top 5 favourite Tracks. It's a great flowing course especially in High Downforce Cars it is a Pleasure to go around in anger. 😊😊😊😊😊
@charleshulsey3103
@charleshulsey3103 Жыл бұрын
By far my favorite track in games. 1 on 1 in matching cars, 10 laps, best 3 out of 5.
@MatthiaGryffine
@MatthiaGryffine Жыл бұрын
It would be hard to find someone who doesn't like this track, it's that iconic.
@bernhardjordan9200
@bernhardjordan9200 Жыл бұрын
You could do a video about Interlagos as well, the old layout and how the modern track came to be. For me like many others old non Tilke circuits there are no boring races there, overtakes are possible, and you can watch almost the whole track from the stands
@reptongeek
@reptongeek Жыл бұрын
I'd like this too
@ThePhyry22
@ThePhyry22 Жыл бұрын
Hugenholtz didn't design Zandvoort. He was the director of the track after it opened, but wasn't involved with the designing
@hoedenbesteller
@hoedenbesteller Жыл бұрын
Built by the visionary that Soichiro Honda was... Damn I long for those days... nothing left of it
@thomaswatkiss9484
@thomaswatkiss9484 Жыл бұрын
Great video aiden BTW love the studio
@dictumobiter1365
@dictumobiter1365 Жыл бұрын
But, study UK advertising law(+KZbin channel)...🧐😉
@somguy728
@somguy728 Жыл бұрын
I believe that every track should have a crossover point around the middle, like Suzuka. It equalizes left and right turns, minimizes the land requirements for the circuit and it's just plain cool. It also compresses the circuit so that grandstands can be placed outside and have views of more than just one turn. One other thing I'd love to see is a pit loop that short circuits the circuit, with a pit lane loss of only 10 seconds or so. That would spice up stategies and add risk to a sport that's becoming predictable. Refueling too, we need refueling.
@GregBrownsWorldORacing
@GregBrownsWorldORacing Жыл бұрын
Well what I find most objectionable is that you translated boot into trunk for us, but you often give us kilometers & tell us just to live with it, Aidan. Enjoy Tejas!
@Dimsen666
@Dimsen666 Жыл бұрын
I love Suzuka, back when I Raced F1 2010 online, I setup the gearing, so I could floor it in 3rd gear through the S bend sector after the first corner, I won a couple, and got praised for my fast Virgin F1. I allso got the perfect setup for Sao Paulo GP, I won allot there, in my Virgin F1 hehe :D
@samuelzackrisson8865
@samuelzackrisson8865 Жыл бұрын
Wish they could bring back the old 130r
@kneebon5
@kneebon5 Жыл бұрын
Best track
@davidmarecek1754
@davidmarecek1754 Жыл бұрын
Southpawracer has a good video demonstrating the proposed layouts for Sozoka
@senorsoupe
@senorsoupe Жыл бұрын
In terms of the ticket lottery, there was one year in the early 90's something like 4 million people applied for tickets to see their demigod Senna in action
@Elios0000
@Elios0000 Жыл бұрын
MAN you need to do a video on Degner on his own dude was a BOSS!
@rassiracing5104
@rassiracing5104 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing up the spelling of “Asama”.
@johnelliott7850
@johnelliott7850 Жыл бұрын
One of my favourites, anyway.
@Rosario_Verano
@Rosario_Verano Жыл бұрын
First sector is one of few places that you take in one breath.
@Midtable1881
@Midtable1881 Жыл бұрын
Love this track! Hi Aidan, would you consider doing a video on Super Formula? Also have you read Tiff Needells biography Tiff Gear?
@Baldrick99
@Baldrick99 Жыл бұрын
750² km?! That would be some track.
@AndrewGeierMelons
@AndrewGeierMelons Жыл бұрын
IMO, Calabogie here in Canada is even better. Not specifically for the history, of course not, but for the drama of the elevation change in Jacques and Gilles corners and just how fun it is to yeet it throttle in most cars, slam on the brakes and try to carry speed through Jacques and Gilles corners. Some cars are right about to go airborne through Gilles. Or, if not that one, then Mosport. In short, Canadian tracks are amazing.
@dschoene57
@dschoene57 7 ай бұрын
Degner also took asll of MZ's engine plans with him and sold them to Suzuki, who - surprise - almost immediately started winning races.
@bmstylee
@bmstylee Жыл бұрын
Any chance you could do a video on your sim rig? I like doing video game racing and I would be interested in having a sim for myself.
@215dagby
@215dagby Жыл бұрын
NASCAR should return to Suzuka.
@markoarkaina8656
@markoarkaina8656 Жыл бұрын
Phillip Island is Aus is S tier on a bike.
@palm92
@palm92 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been here 3 times. If you can, please go. It’s a wonderful place.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
Bit of a trek. I’d love to but hate being on a plane for longer than four hours. 🤣
@palm92
@palm92 Жыл бұрын
@@AidanMillward It’s a 13 hour flight from where I am so I understand.
@MONSTERxMIRAGE
@MONSTERxMIRAGE Жыл бұрын
a great video i saw about suzuka was by gp laps. who did the history and laps on an older suzuka track
@rosumin38
@rosumin38 Жыл бұрын
For a time the circuit hosted both Formula 1 and MotoGP Japanese Grand Prix simultaneously. Sadly the prototype bikes just got too fast for the track and after rising star Daijiro Kato lost his life there during the 2003 race at the re profiled 130R MotoGP never returned. Happily bike racing didn't disappear from Suzuka as domestic bike racing still happens there with the Suzuka 8 Hours endurance race being the circuits crown jewel event of the year.
@flashgordon3715
@flashgordon3715 Жыл бұрын
Now I have to fire up the ps5 and run laps at Suzuka
@oxcart4172
@oxcart4172 Жыл бұрын
It's actually the sound of the old CBX-1000 motorcycle. No question about it!
@bernhardjordan9200
@bernhardjordan9200 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard about the 2 engine vw beetle Fittipaldi build in the late 60's for endurance racing? It culd keep place with ford gt 40 and lolas. It could be a cool video subject.
@gordonwallin2368
@gordonwallin2368 Жыл бұрын
Good job, maybe the track is why the Japanese make the best motorcycles and cars. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
@cyberleone00
@cyberleone00 Жыл бұрын
8th track. i think you're forgetting the content manager screen i have 400 hours in B)
@danmc_2783
@danmc_2783 Жыл бұрын
Oran Park was a figure of 8 circuit and also hosted Grands Prix
@rockets4kids
@rockets4kids Жыл бұрын
4:50 Somebody (you or one of your sources) failed at math. According to the Honda website, the track required 660,000 to 990,000 square meters, the high end of which is less than 1 square kilometer. For reference, the size of the entire city of Suzuka is only 194 square km.
@onnayoung7699
@onnayoung7699 Жыл бұрын
Top 3 for sure.
@paul_mumford
@paul_mumford Жыл бұрын
I am absolutely hopeless at driving at Suzuka!
@adenkyramud5005
@adenkyramud5005 Жыл бұрын
Sector 1 will always be an absolute nightmare for me😂 i still have nightmares from that god damn suzuka endurance race in gran turismo 5 😅
@F1Kamel_1992
@F1Kamel_1992 Жыл бұрын
As for me I mastered the track through F1 and Gran Turismo series on PS2 & PS3.
@PendragonDaGreat
@PendragonDaGreat Жыл бұрын
Hearing all about the motorbike racing and knowing what bikes and scooters are on the islands. Yamaha, please, re-release the Vino and/or release the eVino in the states, I'm begging you.
@TheBrainSpecialist
@TheBrainSpecialist Жыл бұрын
Just so you know, Soichiro is pronounced So-i-chi-ro. Like take the baseball player and put "so" in front of his name. Other than that great video
@redshift6170
@redshift6170 Жыл бұрын
Is that original track layout at 7:30 not what they built at Motegi?
@seancassidy795
@seancassidy795 Жыл бұрын
“” *Wisconsinite fist pump*
@Yosuf06
@Yosuf06 21 күн бұрын
when i play Project cars 2 and having fun. i find a circuit it's look like Suzuka circuit but it have a different turn rather than the hairpin back to the start but had a different name!!! 🤔 but i can't remember it. which lead me to search about the history for the Suzuka circuit and didn't fin the video am looking for and find your video with more.. Is it that the old Suzuka circuit before they change the name and the layout!!?? i wish to find the ansower to that because am lost and confused!!!
@mrFiiSKiiS
@mrFiiSKiiS Жыл бұрын
Well I guess I'm buying Suzuka on iRacing now
@pranc236
@pranc236 Жыл бұрын
My favorite track, in sim racing its a sure thing that someone rage quits. 😂 i could do no better at saying japanese words. Where you impressed with max’s pass on charles in 22’? Just curious and great video.
@tedtheo7131
@tedtheo7131 Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with f1 wanting to go to any other track in japan is simply: but suzuka exists
@Quintinohthree
@Quintinohthree Жыл бұрын
Didn't stop TI Aida/Okayama.
@tedtheo7131
@tedtheo7131 Жыл бұрын
@@Quintinohthree ti aida didnt replace suzuka. Thats my only problem with the races at fuji.
@TheKincognito
@TheKincognito Жыл бұрын
there is a great Video from SouthPawRacer about the proposed layouts for Suzuka. a good watch if you wanna know more about this Track
@VonCrakenfart
@VonCrakenfart Жыл бұрын
every one loves Suzuka because its a track with flow, you need to know how to drive to be good at it.
@therrydicule
@therrydicule Жыл бұрын
Suzuka is a great circuit. I hope that they would move a few wall because it is limit in some place with some vehicles. If you want to see an awful racetrack, try the Belvederre circuit in Tunisia on a simulator...
@Torero2901
@Torero2901 Жыл бұрын
It's an amazing classic circuit, still I feel Zandvoort beats it in unique character, but definitely the best circuit in Asia for me.
@King_Ears
@King_Ears Жыл бұрын
Definitely not one of the greatest, but it's not bad. It's known as Suckzuka to me and my GT7 friends. Not because it sucks, but because the track likes to 'suck you off' at T1, Dunlop, the degners, spoon & 130R 😂
@corpsecoder_nw6746
@corpsecoder_nw6746 Жыл бұрын
Suzuka would be perfect if the race organizers aren't too quick to put cranes on the track when the visibility is zero. Also the barriers aren't as advanced as maybe Spa or Monaco. Finally the narrow track width makes for less racing action than Fuji, so in my opinion it will never be as good as Fuji (which also has plenty of runoff area these days for safety).
@wanr5701
@wanr5701 8 ай бұрын
Agree with you. As much as Suzuka is considered "drivers/riders track" for all its challenges, the racing action there is relatively boring because of narrower width and less runoff areas, in turn forced racers to be more cautious which ironically rather counter-intuitive to what the circuit meant for the racers. Fuji for its rather simplistic layout, provides better racing for reasons you stated.
@shaun_sharlev
@shaun_sharlev Жыл бұрын
Just like whiskey, Japan imported the idea and made it better.
@MsZeeZed
@MsZeeZed Жыл бұрын
11:17 - Monza was the first Figure-of-8 for F1 in the Italian GPs for four years 1955-56 & 1960-61. It had been that shape in 1933, but the original banking rotted away during WWII and was rebuilt in concrete in the 1950s that then itself decayed.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
I’d call that combined oval/road than figure of eight.
@AfroMyrdal
@AfroMyrdal Жыл бұрын
Suzuka is such an underrated track, absolutely my favorite of all time. Well, after Tsukuba. Sorry not sorry!
@Pewnhound112
@Pewnhound112 Жыл бұрын
Dang, different strokes for different strokes because I’ve always thought Tsukuba was patently awful. Well, unless you are racing go karts.
@philllawrence1580
@philllawrence1580 Жыл бұрын
5.5 to Moreno!!!
@neilldonahue
@neilldonahue Жыл бұрын
Never understood the love for Road America
@Batters56
@Batters56 Жыл бұрын
So Cota mk1 then?
@15DEAN1995
@15DEAN1995 Жыл бұрын
I love fuji and suzuka, but suzuka is in the top 10 best tracks to drive in the world. I'm not sure about Fuji.
@tdyerwestfield
@tdyerwestfield Жыл бұрын
Honda also built Motegi, which might be the most boring purpose-built closed permanent circuit in the world. Swings and roundabouts.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
The f1 track in South Korea exists. 🤣
@RubyRoks
@RubyRoks Жыл бұрын
As a certified loser...i mean weeb, i absolutely love the dive into Japanese racing history.
@1_5RCBiker
@1_5RCBiker Жыл бұрын
Mat Oxley produced a book about Ernst Degner. Well worth a read. :)
@mid-packhack8130
@mid-packhack8130 Жыл бұрын
Still think suzuka works much better as a time trial test track and isn't so great for actual racing in anything bigger than small sedans. Just so very narrow and with few actual passing spots. Fun track, but just too tight for large modern cars
@JoseManuelLegardaGalarza
@JoseManuelLegardaGalarza Жыл бұрын
Bring back AVUS
@jkel16
@jkel16 Жыл бұрын
1:06 nope definitely 4th.
@HMDHEGD
@HMDHEGD Жыл бұрын
Gedser is pronounced as "guesser" lol.
@DennisDithmar
@DennisDithmar 11 ай бұрын
Forget the D. It's pronounced Gesser...
@andygreener3130
@andygreener3130 Жыл бұрын
Some tracks get modified simply because the FIA’s chosen sweetheart doesn’t get pole.... Granted, apparently all drivers were consulted but....really? WTF “Here you go highest paid athletes on four wheels, if you say it’s too hard to stay in track we’ll make it wider for you, don’t worry about slowing down a bit”
@JerryCrow
@JerryCrow Жыл бұрын
Danish is swedish spoken with a hot potato in the mouth...
@henryjohn2218
@henryjohn2218 Жыл бұрын
i wish iracing puts buddh racing track.
@tdyerwestfield
@tdyerwestfield Жыл бұрын
I don't like Suzuka. The whole circuit only seems to exist to join the end and start of the esses together, much like how Laguna Seca is just to join the end and start of the corkscrew.
@project182r3
@project182r3 Жыл бұрын
Suzuka is arguably still the greatest mainstream circuit on class leading calendars. Spa is the only circuit anywhere near but it’s been over sanitised and it’s now well, just a bit shit…
@project182r3
@project182r3 Жыл бұрын
Laguna Seca I hold in similar regard but it again, it’s been tamed too much…
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