WHEN THE BEST GET IT WRONG: The Story of the Williams FW16 (1994)

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Aidan Millward

Aidan Millward

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@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
The stuff about the rear wing is interesting and at the same time mind bending. Meanwhile I watched the A380 fly overhead on its way into Birmingham for a couple of years thinking "HOW DO YOU STAY IN THE AIR?!" I guess magic.
@jamesstewart1794
@jamesstewart1794 Жыл бұрын
What about the broken steering column?
@PlittHD
@PlittHD Жыл бұрын
We all live in a Simulation but Codemasters didn't program it
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
@@jamesstewart1794 what about it?
@PlittHD
@PlittHD Жыл бұрын
@@jamesstewart1794 7:39
@RACECAR
@RACECAR Жыл бұрын
If there is one thing I've gotten from planes and cars, its that Aerodynamics is itself Dark Magic.
@hugoagogo9435
@hugoagogo9435 Жыл бұрын
As a Ferrari fan I’d say the best have bad decades. Sometimes quarter centuries
@alexlazebat839
@alexlazebat839 Жыл бұрын
yes and weirdly 1-2s are rare in the off years but not as rare as youd think berger, alesi could of done that sevral times
@xiricada7121
@xiricada7121 Жыл бұрын
😂
@alexlazebat839
@alexlazebat839 Жыл бұрын
@@xiricada7121 i know its laughable the 94-95 period was several times it could of been done
@cmSaS
@cmSaS Жыл бұрын
As a Cubs fan, I’ve got to agree.
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine 8 ай бұрын
@@cmSaSChicago should kidnap Theo Epstein and force him to GM the Cubs again.
@josephcote7702
@josephcote7702 Жыл бұрын
The main thing that stands out to me about having drivers like Senna and Michael not really around anymore is that the F1 world never really found out about how they would have been influenced by them post-driver career. Team owners? Driver program manager? Announcer? It would be neat to have them around in that fashion still.
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 Жыл бұрын
Excellent comment.
@viiviketomaki7284
@viiviketomaki7284 3 ай бұрын
Yeah would you see a grey haired Senna in a Papaya orange anorak exchanging glances at Prost on the Alpine side of the pitwall. Or would he be mentoring the next generation of Brazilian heroes to F1? Would we see Schumacher in silver hanging around Mercedes with his kid. Or would the two do endurance racing? Man...
@seaninterpop
@seaninterpop Жыл бұрын
Minor point of order: Jody Scheckter raced car 0 at the 1973 Canadian and US GPS, but Damon Hill was the first and only to use it across a full season :)
@stuartwelsford8909
@stuartwelsford8909 Жыл бұрын
Wow, really never knew that! Thought Damo was the first and only...
@Ramtamtama
@Ramtamtama Жыл бұрын
Damon is the only driver to finish a race in car 0
@christopherlesiuk6172
@christopherlesiuk6172 Жыл бұрын
On the 1997 game, Murray Walker says something on the lines of 'Frank Williams has had to deal with tragedy in recent years' during his commentary. 4 year old me had no idea he was referencing Senna at that time
@thatguyfromcetialphaV
@thatguyfromcetialphaV Жыл бұрын
Schumacher said that the B194 and B195 were almost impossible to drive and if you watch the replays of those seasons, those cars were all over the place, so the FW16 wasn't alone in being tough to drive.
@TrickyMario7654
@TrickyMario7654 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t Berger and Alesi find the B195 to be “almost undriveable” when they tested it?
@Padgeot
@Padgeot Жыл бұрын
@@TrickyMario7654 Alesi I think was more outspoken about it being terrible, but yes.
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Жыл бұрын
They did and this was the era where they were experimenting with early crude forms of blown diffusers which were only on throttle which created a certain way you had to drive the car maintaining a little bit of throttle through corners Not surprising that Left foot braking became the dominant way of driving during that time which ended/limited the careers of those with mangled feet
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 the blown diffuser had been around for a few years. It’s that they only worked on throttle which made the rear ends go super twitchy on the brakes. Schumacher was able to keep the throttle open just enough to get maximum braking with maximum downforce. Kinda started the left foot revolution while those used to H patterns were still using the left foot.
@thatguyfromcetialphaV
@thatguyfromcetialphaV Жыл бұрын
@@Padgeot Schumacher told them not to be surprised if the 195 spun in the pitlane! Herbert and Jos the Boss could barely hold on to the B194 by all accounts.
@ti5543
@ti5543 Жыл бұрын
Senna’s death affected me deeply at the time and still does and will for the rest of my days. Your presentation in this video was very gracious. Thank you.
@_Archambaud
@_Archambaud Жыл бұрын
Same here..
@grantcarncross5380
@grantcarncross5380 8 ай бұрын
Yes a huge loss, it's Like the World stopped turning on that day, still can't believe Senna was killed that day so so unfair.
@Vlad79061
@Vlad79061 8 ай бұрын
I am from Imola and attended winter tests, qualifying and race as usual with my dad since 1983. I was at Tosa curve as usual on Saturday and Sunday and the wrecked Simtek just stopped in front of us. Most shocking experience in my life. On Sunday we saw the crash of Ayrton as well but hundreds yards away and none of us really understood the destiny of Ayrton until we got home and watched the news. There's no smartphones in 1994 and the speaker just said "Senna out". We just saw the helicopter taking off to Ospedale Maggiore at Bologna. Rest in peace 🇧🇷🇦🇹
@peterjohnson8935
@peterjohnson8935 8 ай бұрын
I would say it was steering column failure that caused Senna's accident. Footage of the steering wheel for the last two laps before the accident showed a distinct abnormality in the steering wheel movement around it's regular axis. Before the failure the steering wheel is behaving in a stable manner. When the steering column finally failed the front wheels snapped straight and Senna never tried to turn the car away from the oncoming wall. All he could do was hit the brakes and drop two gears to try and slow the car. The car bottoming out could certainly have stressed the poorly modified steering column.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward 8 ай бұрын
We’ll probably never know. The Italian legal system is a minefield and seems made up as it goes along.
@limitlessinitiatives
@limitlessinitiatives 4 ай бұрын
That was indeed the cause. The video showing the apparently 'normal' movement of the steering wheel is an insult to the intelligence of racing fans around the world. The onboard footage from that weekend only shows extreme movement on laps 6 and 7. RIP Senna - I will never forget that day 💔
@prutz9092002
@prutz9092002 Жыл бұрын
The story of the FW16 is one of the most fascinating - and saddest - story lines since I became a serious F1 fan in the early 90s. I remember all of this going down real time, even if it was harder to get updated info as an American back then. If you get a chance, watch Senna's '94 Brazilian GP. Namely the opening laps and after the first round of pit stops. Even though the car's faults caught up with him, watching him work that thing was nothing short of legendary. I can still hear the sound of that Renault RS6 buzzing during his onboard footage.
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think Mosely should be held accountable for what happened in 1994. Had he said "okay, from 1995 X is going to happen" teams would have had more time to prepare and actually make cars designed to run without driver aids rather than taking the cars they had already designed and simply removing the aids from them.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
They should have been phased out, but hindsight is always perfect.
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 Жыл бұрын
@@AidanMillward I agree, which is why they never again rushed through such major changes
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
@@MrSniperfox29 guess Mosely was counting on all the teams totally redesigning instead of copy pasting them. But like I said the data wasn’t as available then as it is now.
@christopherlesiuk6172
@christopherlesiuk6172 Жыл бұрын
To some extent that's why Lola failed miserably. If they had an opportunity to delay their entry by another year they wouldn't be on most people's worst teams of all time shortlist
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherlesiuk6172 Rush jobs seldom work (with a few exceptions).
@Padgeot
@Padgeot Жыл бұрын
Lovely video, and confirms my aging memory that the FW16 was in fact terrible. I've had people blame Damon as being the reason the season was bad in discussions, which I never agreed with. I always look forward to your videos in my subscription feed!
@peekaboo1575
@peekaboo1575 Жыл бұрын
Blaming Damon Hill is a silly thing to do when fucking Senna of all people was having trouble with it.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
Senna was doing with the Williams what Leclerc is doing with that Ferrari. Over driving and trying to get it to do stuff it doesn’t want to do and wondering why he’s in a wall. Damon and Carlos were keeping it within their own and/or the car’s limits.
@Padgeot
@Padgeot Жыл бұрын
@@AidanMillward Oh I agree both Leclerc and Senna are/were getting 101% out of the flawed package they are given. Leclerc pushes the Ferrari so hard that it can appear that it's a driver problem, when it's them grasping for every ounce out of the car. That's not a slight at Damon or Carlos it's just a different threshold of the driver factor. Leclerc pushed so hard in Miami as he does, he binned it. It's no different than Senna pushing that FW16, safety is just in such a better place now thankfully.
@Padgeot
@Padgeot Жыл бұрын
@@peekaboo1575 Take a guess what forum board was peddling the "Damon was the problem" agenda. :p
@AC_702
@AC_702 Жыл бұрын
I don't see how anyone can blame Hill when Newey, Senna, Mansell...everyone...said the car was very difficult. Newey even said they forgot how to build a passive suspended car
@darrenbarrett1598
@darrenbarrett1598 Жыл бұрын
Abruptly stripping the cars of all technological aids made them even more unsafe. Williams had the most advanced systems, and therefore the most work to do to reconfigure their cars for the new rules. The source of these changes being a power play by Ferrari with the FIA.
@gerardgomez4075
@gerardgomez4075 Жыл бұрын
I always think i f they wouldn't have done that Ayrton would've gone to Indy car racing because he hated all the electronic aids.... and Indy cars had none or few.
@thewildybeast
@thewildybeast Жыл бұрын
That year they had band all the driver aids, but did nothing about the engines which were the same power from the previous year. I have said from the moment it happened, the biggest contribution to Senna’s crash was the rule changes.
@ohmightyzeus6135
@ohmightyzeus6135 Жыл бұрын
2:28 Those squiggly lines need a lot of development before they are ready for racing. Just finished the Newey book so this is all fresh for me. Glad to see it done here.
@EffequalsMA
@EffequalsMA Жыл бұрын
The anhedral on the B-52's thin, low chord wing is to allow for its upward flex when loaded, primarily. The droop on the tail of a/c like the F4 Phantom II is, as you describe, to retain tailplane effectiveness at high AOA. The long chord wing shadows the tailplane to the airflow, particularly at high AOA or bank angles.
@martinlampert4721
@martinlampert4721 Жыл бұрын
1994 - year of complacency….
@charamia9402
@charamia9402 Жыл бұрын
I would love to hear your take on each of the accidents of Imola -94. How they happened and what parts of the engineering or lack thereof played into them.
@RedcarBoy94
@RedcarBoy94 Жыл бұрын
Always makes me happy to see you've uploaded, Aidan. Love your work. 👍
@JohnSmithShields
@JohnSmithShields Жыл бұрын
This is tie car story Ive looked forward to and dreaded at the same time. Well played.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
Still a very sore subject nearly 30 years later for some.
@Mishima505
@Mishima505 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering what might have been if the ban on driver aids had come in for 1995, not 1994. All the teams had their 94 cars already designed by the announcement of the ban, so the lateness of it caused the hurried re-design and no time to test it properly.
@TheWPhilosopher
@TheWPhilosopher Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's why I don't just blame the rear wing and why I don't think the car was necessarily terrible. With driver aids and electronics it probably wouldn't have come to light.
@ruricklodder
@ruricklodder Жыл бұрын
to use the problematic aero as the explanation of Senna crash is more than acceptable than many others that i heard over the years, after all he passes by a bump and the rear clue to the floor and he lost control. Great video about the car
@ELUSIVEJIM
@ELUSIVEJIM Жыл бұрын
Rubbish. Senna died due to his car s steering column failing. I really wish people would research before stating rubbish.
@djh29971
@djh29971 4 ай бұрын
@@ELUSIVEJIM That is conjecture. The Italian Kangaroo Court - whose credibility has always been zero, not least because they took 'only' three years to exonerate Patrese for something he never did - stated they thought it was the most likely cause, not fact. The Italians should have shut the event down after Roland's death, but to circumnavigate this, they classed his death as off track. I digress, The FOM examined the column and stated from the evidence that it did not break prior to impact in their view. In simple terms, Senna drove too fast for the conditions. That is an over simplification, but if you're driving a nervous car you want a steady race and get points. That wasn't the Senna way, but this guy has been driving beyond the limit a lot in his career and finally met his match in the undeveloped FW16. The car needed a lot of respect and Senna drove hell for leather in a car that wasn't capable of it at that point. Hill was the smart one that weekend, by driving the smoother line that avoided the bump. Had Senna done the same, he might still be here.
@on_wheels_80
@on_wheels_80 Жыл бұрын
Anhedral rear wing of the FW16: I'd need to get to my copy of Newey's book to look up the actual reason for it. One can find a rear shot of Senna at Imola 94' where some quite low black surface is pretty much parallel to the lower rear wing element above it. Bet you all of this is there to accelerate what's coming out of the diffusor. Added benefit seems to be better exposure to clean airflow in the center. Oddly enough, since a racecar's wing is there to produce downforce instead of lift, one could argue, the FW16's rear wing element to actually be dihedral ;)
@78lagwagon
@78lagwagon Жыл бұрын
Yes I thought exactly the same thing, the wing is upside down
@lsmith7169
@lsmith7169 Жыл бұрын
My son and I really love your videos and especially love the ones when you are on camera. We assume as you are making you videos shorter to perhaps get more views you may have decided to not appear on camera. There may be some other reason and we totally respect your choices as your content it so incredibly amazing. You know so much about the sport we love and have been sharing for 27 years that we will always be huge fans but just wanted you to know we miss your charming face. We also love love love your dry wit.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
We’re in the process of moving house and I have no background anymore. So no point in being on camera.
@lsmith7169
@lsmith7169 Жыл бұрын
@@AidanMillward Thanks for the reply and good luck with the move, All the best from two huge fans.
@CrunchyMotorsport
@CrunchyMotorsport Жыл бұрын
Not only was the Williams was dangerous, they all were. It wasn't skill that kept people alive (mostly) it was a roll of a dice
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Жыл бұрын
Randomly I was looking at lap times literally 2 days ago with 1993 cars vs 1994 cars before Spain. The cars were as fast as the previous years in some cases faster and this was without all the gizmos that made the cars more stable and with the added lower fuel levels due to refueling You have to ask what were the FIA thinking with the rule change created even faster more dangerous and twitcher cars so many bad crashes and injuries
@huwgrossmith9555
@huwgrossmith9555 Жыл бұрын
No real change then. Back then the driver didn't need to be a rocket scientist to work out the steering wheel.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
They should have phased out the driver aids to be honest. Starting with the suspension and ending with the traction control.
@arthurguitar
@arthurguitar Жыл бұрын
Banning so many driver aids at once was bound to mean safety issues
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
@@arthurguitar two drivers killed and I count at least seven potentials.
@Bantercaptainxbox
@Bantercaptainxbox Жыл бұрын
I’ve missed the history videos. Keep it going brother
@senorsoupe
@senorsoupe Жыл бұрын
I still think The Michael would have been able to hold.off Senna in 94. Benetton probably would not have taken the risks they took which caused his ban if Senna was still there. 1995 would have been a monumental title battle between Schumacher and Senna though
@testdrive7772
@testdrive7772 Жыл бұрын
Shumi had TC. This is why 1994 was a cake walk for him.
@quicksesh
@quicksesh 8 ай бұрын
I'm not sure how true it is, but it was reported that Prost did tell Senna that the car was very difficult to drives the FW16 was an evolved passive suspended version of the FW15C which Prost reckoned that the suspension was hiding the inadequacy of the chassis and aerodynamics.
@gdogg3710
@gdogg3710 Жыл бұрын
Flat undertray cars were death traps…they worked during the turbo era because of the huge wings and tyres…between 1989 and 1994 the aspie’s gained not far off 200bhp, and the wings and tyres got smaller. Active suspension and the like just extended the grace period. When that was gone, there wasn’t enough time in one winter to back out fully the peaky aero you can get away with in cars that don’t dive or roll, after which the cars became outright death traps…
@falseflag42
@falseflag42 Жыл бұрын
Senna put it on pole just underlines how great he was
@Ahito1984
@Ahito1984 Жыл бұрын
On 1 lap, Ayrton stated how demanding was the car. For a whole GP, we only have Brazil 94 to talk about. Damon never pushed the way Ayrton did so. Damon was GP driver, not racing driver. A racing driver always pushes the cas to go beyond the limits. Remembering circumstances before his crash in Imola, the more I look into it, it's like his front tires were losing grip early in the corner with no chance to turn. We could talk about surface of the track but The steering wheel excuse looks so convenient I've never seen any stress test applied on it (agressive use or impact of crash on it, which one happened really)
@TheLuthorri
@TheLuthorri Жыл бұрын
​@@Ahito1984 *car
@rigel8755
@rigel8755 4 ай бұрын
@@Ahito1984 The telemetry analyzed on the investigation showed that in mid corner his steering instantly plunged to 0 degrees. At that exact moment he was still turning left and braked where you shouldn't brake. That's why the steering column collapse explanation is oddly convenient.. it's the one that makes the most sense anyways. I think that the theory of the car bottoming out that caused this accident to be bollocks. Let's apply physics here - when someone racing is in a corner, turning while accelerating, and suddenly his tires lose contact to the ground, does the car go **completely straight** to the wall or does it follow the laws of physics and spins? Hell, any other time they were bottoming out, the car was not just jumping straight like taking off like a plane, they often spun.
@Tg18460
@Tg18460 3 ай бұрын
@@rigel8755yup like a skateboard with no wheels it should’ve just freely spun around, or if it was that high load high speed etc it should’ve at LEAST had a bit more loose and fluid movements than what we saw which was such a clunky awkward change of direction
@philclarke7712
@philclarke7712 Жыл бұрын
Another top notch video.
@Twin540i
@Twin540i 9 ай бұрын
Berger crashing while existing the pits at Portugal and almost wiping out Derek Warwick because of the active suspension failing was an example of the danger of the systems.
@sjr999r
@sjr999r Жыл бұрын
At imola,the safety car was a Vauxhall Cavalier 4x4 turbo(in its day,was a quick car) however still not quick for that era of F1. Alot of mitigating circumstances when active suspension was banned,which led to incidents with the whole grid.And to be honest the whole weekend was a shitshow. RIP Senna / Ratzenberger
@philrussell5258
@philrussell5258 Жыл бұрын
Alesi had an anhedral front wing on his Tyrell
@tiagodumont4422
@tiagodumont4422 Жыл бұрын
You say that if the old numbering system was in place in 2017 Bottas would have run 0 but, according to the logic Williams used (0 was given to the driver who was already at the team), I guess Hamilton would have used the 0 and Bottas the 2.
@ThinlaneT
@ThinlaneT Жыл бұрын
I think the accident you meant with Berger in 1993 was on Estoril, not Barcelona. And it was at the end of the F1 1993 season.
@ianwynne764
@ianwynne764 Жыл бұрын
Hello Adrian: Thank you very much for explaining why big planes have anhedral wings. Look after your self.
@on_wheels_80
@on_wheels_80 Жыл бұрын
Anhedral wings in transporters: It makes it so that this big ass plane can actually roll - period. Dihedral wings are aerodynamically stable. On top of that, transport planes usually (well known exception: The strategic transporter concept that later became the Boeing 747) have shoulder mounted wings and their CoG far _below_ their CoL. That makes them even more stable along the roll axis. Combined, you'd need excessive aileron size or angle of attack and the associated drag and induced yaw to achieve any sort of roll rate.
@darrenwalters6339
@darrenwalters6339 Жыл бұрын
What surprises me about what happened at Imola 94 is senna went of on his second lap after the safety car not the first? You’d think he would have had the accident on his first attempt at going into tamburello, as that would be when he’s tires would be at there coldest so even lower ride hight then his second attempt.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
There was a picture taken just before the accident (first lap after the safety car I think) where there’s a piece of sky blue debris near Senna’s car. It’s assumed it’s a piece of Lehto’s car from the start line shunt. Maybe it caused a slow puncture
@sylviusdelvalie9671
@sylviusdelvalie9671 Жыл бұрын
@@AidanMillward The bumps in Tamburello were worse that year; Senna’s telemetry records that the car stepped out after he hit one of the bumps and he lifted the throttle and tried to correct the steering slightly. That was the initial part, as after that the car hit the next bump and then that’s when the car just went straight for the wall. It was the bumps, the fW16 design problems, low ride height set-up, the safety car/cold tires, and Senna driving too aggressively on the inside line and lifting and trying to correct that caused the accident.
@sylviusdelvalie9671
@sylviusdelvalie9671 Жыл бұрын
Because he went faster on that second lap through Tamburello (several kph recorded by the telemetry) and took a tighter more aggressive trajectory - and the car stepped out over one of the bumps. It is rare, but there is onboard footage from Senna’s car from the first lap through Tamburello after the safety car and it was already bottoming like crazy, you could see from the camera cutting out a lot.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
@@sylviusdelvalie9671 that’s what Newey says in the book but all anyone is going to scream is the steering column.
@sylviusdelvalie9671
@sylviusdelvalie9671 Жыл бұрын
@@AidanMillward Right. It’s the emotional explanation to preserve the myth that Senna was a faultless icon, but analysis of the telemetry reveals these details. I say this as a deep Senna admirer for anyone reading… Also, it is uncommonly known that there was a rift in the Senna family caused by Adriane Galistue, his girlfriend at the time. Senna’s brother, Leonardo, was there that weekend and they got in an argument, supposedly over her, which I theorize contributed to Senna’s already agitated psychological state (along w/ the accidents that weekend).
@backtobeam9260
@backtobeam9260 Жыл бұрын
Favourite looking car of all time
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
Preferred the 96 one myself.
@backtobeam9260
@backtobeam9260 Жыл бұрын
@@AidanMillward I just wasn't a fan of the higher top of the 1995/6 onwards cars
@kevinprior3549
@kevinprior3549 Жыл бұрын
​@Aidan Millward I think 1994 was Damon's best season... better than the 1996 season. Cos Damon literally dragged a team from a very sad time to coming only 1 point away from winning the title.
@philipbain
@philipbain Жыл бұрын
Berger's active suspension failure leaving the pits in '93 was in Portugal, not Spain!
@stuartwelsford8909
@stuartwelsford8909 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, but I think it failed in Spain... Portugal was bergers error, and anyway by Portugal the ban on gizmos for 94 had already been implemented * Not 100%, could be wrong about some of that!
@tiagodumont4422
@tiagodumont4422 Жыл бұрын
I believed that the steering column broke for many years but bear with me. If you watch closely, at roughly the same time some interference comes on the screen, the rear steps out quite a lot. You can see from Schumacher's onboard that this coincides with a bottom out. It could have also come from a slow rear right puncture, as Newey states or the FW16 being a turd in general. Why Senna wasn't able to catch the slide could be down to 4 things: He was caught by surprise as he was already thinking about the next corner; That car was a pig to drive; There simply wasn't enough road; He didn't want to over correct like he did in Brazil earlier that year. Perhaps a combination of all 4. However one thing is certain: the rear wouldn't step out if the steering broke. The was would just head off straight into the wall.
@redbaron9029
@redbaron9029 Жыл бұрын
None of it would ever happen if ferrari didn't ask the FIA to change the rule only because they were dumb enough to perfect the technology others did.
@jsquared1013
@jsquared1013 7 ай бұрын
Could have broken as he counter-steered, which would explain the "over" correction: column stayed centered even as he returned the wheel to left.
@bogy912
@bogy912 Жыл бұрын
awesome video mate! :) thanks
@sleebanger
@sleebanger Жыл бұрын
you should do a story on the Williams/ Senna crash called "how to destroy evidence".
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
Most of the data was destroyed in the crash as the computer was on the side of the car that ate the wall. There is no conspiracy or cover up.
@jozsefizsak
@jozsefizsak Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you!
@Holanduzo
@Holanduzo Жыл бұрын
And yet its my favourite f1 car ever.
@bensteward8937
@bensteward8937 Жыл бұрын
With all due respect, if Hill could haul that car into Championship contention, so could Senna, and then we have the era leading up to the 96 and 97 Championship winning cars. Had he lived, we could be discussing him as a 5 or 6 tines Champion.
@theant9821
@theant9821 Жыл бұрын
If Senna had won the championship knowing Williams he'd have to leave ir take a pay cut.
@eduardogarcia732
@eduardogarcia732 Жыл бұрын
05:20 - Timo's Glock corner: "Junção" (in english "junction")
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
Had to really think about the pronunciation on that one, given my brain defaults to GCSE Spanish 🤣
@AlessioBussaglia
@AlessioBussaglia Жыл бұрын
I inform you that in 1994 Williams won the constructors' world championship with 118 points. But what are we talking about? Then everyone is sorry that Senna died, but he could also not have raced in San Marino given the mourning of poor Ratzenberger the day before
@weallfollowmanutd
@weallfollowmanutd Жыл бұрын
To this day, I feel the way many people state how bad the Williams was is ridiculous. Damon constantly got top 4 when it was at its worst. Thats not a bad car. There have been many many f1 cars that were mistakes and the Williams simply wasnt as good as it couldve been, thats all. By Barcelona, still early in the season, it was a very good car.
@johngriffiths118
@johngriffiths118 Жыл бұрын
Did Senna spin off or appear to drive in a straight line off the track ? . Surely the latter , that may indicate failure of the steering column
@CyanRooper
@CyanRooper Жыл бұрын
Are there any other instances of cars having a comeback like this? Would love to hear more stories like this.
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Жыл бұрын
Immediately the car that comes to mind is the MP4-24 of 2009 Whilst it never became a championship winning car it showed impressive levels of development though the season
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
Maybe the 2018 Mercedes as that was a nightmare to set up in the first few rounds of the season.
@areasquirrel
@areasquirrel Жыл бұрын
People who are scared of flying think "How do you stay in the air?" with most/all aircraft, I find. I certainly did. I didn't go overseas until my 30th birthday, and it was for my anxiety just as much as my mum's MS that we were moved to the front of the plane, where I swear the guy doing the safety demonstration was a doppelganger for Daniel Ricciardo. It's a reminder that Ferrari International Assistance predated Schumacher et al. I suppose that aggression works because the tech can pick up the slack, so to speak, leaving the driver free to focus on the road and put their foot down. It's one of the reasons I've also run a mile from the notion of learning to drive. Gears make me feel uncomfortable. I don't care how many times Mum and others say they're fine, I don't believe them. Too complex. Hand off the wheel to gear shift, alarm bells go off in my head. Then, rather than "how do you stay in the air?", it's "how do you not immediately spin and crash?" like one of those disaster movie-level Irish road safety ads where they fly off the road and roll over fifteen times. Automatics or electrics on the face of it should reduce the fear by not needing hands off the wheel so much, but then I move into fear of the unknown. I've driven a kart, but that's it. Games with a wheel have been a disaster, since having to remember to shift every corner, every lap, even with flappy paddles, is exhausting to a dyspraxic. So when oldies moan about traction control, software such as what Williams utilised, and other things as being 'too simple', I have felt a little insulted in the past. A bit of a 'leave this to the grown ups, little boy', gatekeeper kind of attitude. 1994 to me was what happened when trying to adhere to that principle too much. There was a fear of a terrible accident, but attempts to curb that ended up causing terrible accidents instead.
@jsquared1013
@jsquared1013 7 ай бұрын
"A bit of a 'leave this to the grown ups, little boy', gatekeeper kind of attitude. " What, exactly, do you think sports are? Of any type...
@Aquiesce24
@Aquiesce24 Жыл бұрын
Jody Scheckter raced with the number zero on his McLaren at the 1973 Canadian & American GP's.
@djh29971
@djh29971 4 ай бұрын
Worth a mention about the FW15D - the '93 car (FW15C) but without the electronic bits that were banned for '94. Senna wanted this to start the season and in hindsight, he was probably right as Williams could have introduced the FW16 when its issues had been ironed out later on (Patrese discussed helping out with testing that year at Imola and Frank was agreeable to this) Senna's experience however, should have been steady for the first few Grand Prix given how problematic the FW16 was. Whether this was ever discussed between himself and Williams I have no idea, but the combination of a fast, but nervous handling car and a driver known for driving beyond the limit, is potentially going to have serious consequences. And sadly, it did.
@tobihaifisch7558
@tobihaifisch7558 Жыл бұрын
9:53 One day, Aidan. One day, you'll manage a video w/o typos in it. I believe in you, Mate! 👊🏻✌🏻
@TheLuthorri
@TheLuthorri Жыл бұрын
Noticed That typo as well in the video
@aaronaaronsen3360
@aaronaaronsen3360 Жыл бұрын
Ok so if I understand correctly, the B wing did stall the airflow from the diffuser. Apparently that's what this year's Redbull DRS is doing, thus decreasing the drag in the straights and giving them the famous "better top speed". Its either that or I'm comparing apples to baby formula and am very confused. I have very rudimentary notions of aerodynamics BTW, my work doesn't have anything to do with it
@jsquared1013
@jsquared1013 7 ай бұрын
it's called the "beam wing." It's purpose, other than the obvious of creating some downforce on its own, is to try to bridge the airflow gap between the main wing and the diffuser, to get them working in harmony to assist each other rather than as two separate and distant devices. The airflow after the wing is upwards at an angle, and this upward flow "pulls" the air below upwards a bit. The airflow exiting the diffuser is also angled upwards a bit. Putting another device between the two (the beam wing) gives some extra upwards angling of the flow to "pull" the diffuser's upward flow further upward (making it more effective for downforce) and getting it close enough to also be affected by the main wing's "pulling" up. Under normal circumstances "stalling" doesn't come into play at all. What DRS does is eliminate (most of) the downforce of the upper plane of the wing when it opens (greatly reduced angle of attack), which also changes the airflow over the main plane, often causing it to partially stall the main plane. This is also referred to as "separation" of airflow from the rearmost bottom surface of the wing, since the curve is too sharp for the airflow to "stick" to. That's why there are two elements with a gap between them: the gap allows some air between the two elements, and that air exiting at an upward angle from the slot helps the flow from the bottom element "stick" to it and "stick to" the upper plane as well, whereas a single-piece would be too steep and the air flow would "unstick" from the surface partway along the upward curve. This separation of flow reduces the downforce. The clever bit that RBR is doing, is designing the geometry and spacing of the main plane, beam wing, and diffuser exit in such a way that when the DRS opens and stalls/separates the airflow from the main plane, it does so in such a way that the "unstuck" airflow from the main plane -- which is now flowing more directly rearwards having separated earlier -- is no longer helping "pull up" the airflow from the beam wing. Now, the beam wing's airflow is at less of an upward angle (having lost the "assist" from the main plane's airflow) and more directly rearward, which does the same thing to the diffuser: it's exit airflow is less "assisted" or "pulled up extra" by the beam wing. This less efficient airflow that is going more "straight back" out of the diffuser than "upward angle" also means that the airflow inside the diffuser is having a harder time "sticking" to the underside surface of the diffuser, and it separates from the surface somewhere under there. This separation in the diffuser, like with the main plane with DRS open, reduces the downforce, and reducing downforce generally corresponds to a reduction in drag. This happens to some extent in all of the cars, but RBR exaggerated this effect by purposely designing the diffuser with a steeper section midway through that NEEDS the "assistance" of the beam wing to keep flow attached (rather than it being able to stay attached on its own), so that the open DRS and reduced beam wing effectiveness would cause a sharper contrast in downforce and drag reduction. I hope that was explained in an understandable way. It's much easier to understand with some diagrams or images, but can't post those in KZbin comments as far as I know. Look up either "ScarbsTech" or "Giorgio Piola" and I'm assuming you can find some drawings explaining it better.
@321-Gone
@321-Gone 6 ай бұрын
4:46 - There's a reason why anhedral wings are mounted high and dihedral wings are mounted low. The stability is achieved by how the fuselage interacts with the wings aerodynamically. About how the pressure area off the nose interarts with wings. Not just the center of gravity / pendulum effect..The williams anhedral lower wing had no true fuselage to interact with, aerodynamically.
@alphatrion100
@alphatrion100 Жыл бұрын
So damon actually did great in 1994?
@gerardgomez4075
@gerardgomez4075 Жыл бұрын
Yes.. He is an awesome pilot!
@alphatrion100
@alphatrion100 Жыл бұрын
@@gerardgomez4075 I mean, it was a shadow of the car mansell and prost won their titles in and yet michael needed to cheat to win by ONE point. Started the season as second driver and almost won. I say Damon did great. 👌
@ELUSIVEJIM
@ELUSIVEJIM Жыл бұрын
It’s unbelievable people are still posting that Senna lost the car or made a mistake. Senna was killed due to the horrendous work done to his steering column which failed.
@testdrive7772
@testdrive7772 Жыл бұрын
The car went in a straight line, also no evidence of from both onboard and external camera of the wheels rotating. It's evident and clear to see, that steering wasn't working.
@gerardgomez4075
@gerardgomez4075 Жыл бұрын
@@testdrive7772 IKR??... why aren't the friggin' wheels turning??..... I saw a video 2 years ago stating that maybe Ayrton lost consciouness??
@BomberFletch31
@BomberFletch31 8 ай бұрын
I could've guessed it was Ferrari that was behind the ban on active suspension. They've been behind just about anything else that has been banned in the history of the sport.
@yanholland315
@yanholland315 Жыл бұрын
C130 Hercules does not have an anhedral wing - it's fairly unusual as it's flat with only a thinning of the wing along its length changing the profile. Wing profiles achieve various outcomes, inherent stability, reduced turbulence impact etc. For a fighter that is under full electronic control they are made unstable which also makes them more agile, the Typhoon has a centre of pressure (lift) in front of the centre of mass (C of G) which is the reverse of a naturally stable design.
@jameswilson5343
@jameswilson5343 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jasonrushton5991
@jasonrushton5991 Жыл бұрын
thank-you!
@robertmilne4304
@robertmilne4304 Жыл бұрын
It won 7 races that season so compared to last season and this season with Mercedes it was a success with the championship being decided on last race where Schumacher robbed Damon Hill of the title.
@theant9821
@theant9821 Жыл бұрын
Lotus was the pioneer of active suspension in 1982, took the first 2 victories for a car with active suspension in 1987. Lotus had an arguably superior system than even williams until 1993.
@KR1736
@KR1736 Жыл бұрын
Should have built in a Benetton defense shield to the car IMO
@judethedude96
@judethedude96 Жыл бұрын
This is a positive comment for the KZbin algorithm
@GennnPresnik-rb7wp
@GennnPresnik-rb7wp Жыл бұрын
Why dont you make a video about williams in 1998 season. No one really understood that fast decline
@phantom213
@phantom213 Жыл бұрын
Actually the Italian court put a verdict (after a ridiculously long investigation through the years) that the steering column did break and found Patrick Head guilty. It's the official verdict, guys. But he never got to jail because too much time has passed since 1994. Still it doesn't change the fact. ETA: the Williams team was finally found guilty for Senna's death. "The Williams team was entagled for many years in a court case with the Italian prosecutors over manslaughter charges, ending in a guilty verdict for Patrick Head. The Italian Court of Appeal, on April 13, 2007, stated the following in the verdict numbered 15050: "It has been determined that the accident was caused by a steering column failure. This failure was caused by badly designed and badly executed modifications of the steering column. The responsibility of this falls on Patrick Head, culpable of omitted control". Even being found responsible for Senna's accident, Patrick Head wasn't arrested: in Italy the statute of limitation for manslaughter is 7 years and 6 months, and the final verdict was pronounced 13 years after the accident.
@TheWPhilosopher
@TheWPhilosopher Жыл бұрын
Italian justice is a bit odd. I think that was done more for political reasons and find a semi respectable way out for everyone. Someone gets done. - Patrick Head. But doesn't go to Jail. So doesn't cause a big fight or appeal. Just leave it not worth it etc.
@on_wheels_80
@on_wheels_80 Жыл бұрын
Berger: Estoril
@Dani-it5sy
@Dani-it5sy Жыл бұрын
Stil Damon took the championship that year. Well it went to Schumacher but it was actually Damon's 😉
@Dani-it5sy
@Dani-it5sy Жыл бұрын
O yes. Back in the day when FIA stood for Ferrari International Assistance.
@jsquared1013
@jsquared1013 7 ай бұрын
it's always stood for that 😂 Enzo himself was a sleazebag who was as successful due to political wranglings as he was from competence.
@alexlazebat839
@alexlazebat839 Жыл бұрын
watson brands hatch 85 was number 1 and ronnie peterson in 74 the number 0 was used by scheckter in 1973 in Canada and USA.and before the 1973 numbering system 1 was used by anyone as Chris Amon was number 1, Jean-Pierre Beltoise and many others
@philipbain
@philipbain Жыл бұрын
F1 car sparks are caused by titanium skid blocks contacting the ground, carbon fibre doesn't spark and nor is it very good in a friction situation, you'd probably want a Kevlar skin to deal with that!
@stuartbrewer1207
@stuartbrewer1207 Жыл бұрын
Williams almost came away with a WDC that year after evolving the car. No disrespect to DH, but Senna would of would of won it for sure.
@kevinprior3549
@kevinprior3549 Жыл бұрын
After Mansell's red number 5, Hill's number 0 is probably the 2nd best looking number on an F1 car ever. But then perhaps Ferrari's 27 was 2nd best?
@gerardgomez4075
@gerardgomez4075 Жыл бұрын
McLaren mp4/6 (Number 1).. (for me personally).. the best looking one.
@Holanduzo
@Holanduzo Жыл бұрын
2:35 and even after, during the Villeneuve years Ferrari was testing a sort os secuential gearbox, but Villeneuve hated it.
@Holanduzo
@Holanduzo Жыл бұрын
3:50 woudnt be Hamilton who had run zero? as you stated he was already there but no Bottas, who should run number 2.
@BlueSkyBS
@BlueSkyBS Жыл бұрын
Jody Scheckter raced with the number 0 at McLaren in the early 70s.
@kevinprior3549
@kevinprior3549 Жыл бұрын
I think there should be a Hollywood movie about Imola 94. It is probably the most talked about GP weekend ever... but sadly for the wrong reasons.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
A film of the whole season would be good. But you know it’s going to end up like the senna doc and be vetted by the family to make it seem like Benetton and Michael were worse than Lance Armstrong.
@TheWPhilosopher
@TheWPhilosopher Жыл бұрын
​@@AidanMillward I didn't really see the Senna Doc slagging off Michael. If anything it was more Senna v Prost for most of it
@kevinprior3549
@kevinprior3549 Жыл бұрын
​@AidanMillward benetton did cheat in my mind. Option 13, a subject you love is like a swear word to me. It is like dirty tactics.
@TheLuthorri
@TheLuthorri Жыл бұрын
What happened to your What-If-Senna-Survived -video?
@The_BenboBaggins
@The_BenboBaggins Жыл бұрын
My boss absolutely berated me at Silverstone once because I used the term 'front nose' - where else would the nose be?
@RomanShopa
@RomanShopa Жыл бұрын
So, Ferrari and (always!) corrupted FIA have indirectly lead to the tragedies of 1994, haven't they?
@chrishobson6431
@chrishobson6431 Жыл бұрын
How did the front wings change the cars?
@Holanduzo
@Holanduzo Жыл бұрын
CVT was so powerful that Coulthard lapped Silverstone 3 seconds faster than the pole of that same season. FIA banned it even before of its debut.
@The_BenboBaggins
@The_BenboBaggins Жыл бұрын
So the RB19 quite likely owes its dominance to the lessons learnt from the FW16 - you can't teach that!
@jsquared1013
@jsquared1013 7 ай бұрын
Newey's experience in IndyCar (venturi tunnels) is likely more to credit than the FW16
@SDMotorsports
@SDMotorsports Жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest though, this car would have won every race or close to from imola onwards With senna. Oh god, are we still saying he crashed because of handling issues and ride height?😂
@MrReese
@MrReese Жыл бұрын
8:20 Who is "The Michael" and is he someone important? :D
@EggChickenRooster-lz7vg
@EggChickenRooster-lz7vg 2 күн бұрын
He’s Talking About Michael Schumacher
@MrReese
@MrReese 2 күн бұрын
@@EggChickenRooster-lz7vg It was a joke...;).
@EggChickenRooster-lz7vg
@EggChickenRooster-lz7vg 2 күн бұрын
@@MrReese understandable have a nice day ✌🏻
@doginu
@doginu Жыл бұрын
4:50 Big Ass Plane....\o/
@minibus9
@minibus9 Жыл бұрын
fascianating video
@Holanduzo
@Holanduzo Жыл бұрын
Steering column clearly snapped in the corner, thats why the car went straight and Senna leaned to the side as a natural reaction, if it was the rear overstearing Senna would have turned the steering to the right but no... he steered more to the left. Typical reaction when you lose steering in your car.
@rafaelcaus3762
@rafaelcaus3762 Жыл бұрын
Pele (healthy) never played a bad game. The exception to proves the rule.
@peekaboo1575
@peekaboo1575 Жыл бұрын
I didn't ask for these feels. :^(
@elta6241
@elta6241 Жыл бұрын
Senna had his car set up at too low a ride height.
@MAte925
@MAte925 8 ай бұрын
First time i've heard about Newey admitting he screwed up! Bet patrick wasn't impressed !
@PitboyHarmony1
@PitboyHarmony1 Жыл бұрын
Of course ... if Ferrari cant actually do the work, be inventive and actually think up a new technological breakthrough idea, they cheat and manipulate the rules to outlaw the work other teams have done and benefit from their own inability to actually be creative by any means necessary. One wonders ... is this just a Ferrari failing to succeed on their own merits ... yet once again, or the Italian dogma of refuse to lose at all costs, so do whatever you gotta do? If they cant cheat, and dont have a real innovative leader, then are they just a mid pack runner?
@jsquared1013
@jsquared1013 7 ай бұрын
That was Enzo's modus operandi from the very beginning. Late to catch on to disc brakes, late to catch on to independent rear suspensions (in the street cars, at least), late to catch on to mid-engined cars, late to catch on to aerodynamics...
@danigonzalez4299
@danigonzalez4299 4 ай бұрын
I don't think the Fw16 was bad. It was as good as the Fw14 from 1991. Drivers said,about the Fw14,it had a lack of traction. And yet they scored podiums and Victories. I think the fact that made it "go wrong" was the combination of mistakes and bad decisions. Taking Senna onboard was a bad one. He never had to live with a poor traction car as the Fw16, and he expected to have a good car in this aspect. Now, his McLarens were very good at traction. So why would not the Williams be? I think he did Not know how to manage that. Also getting Damon Hill, a Rockie in his 2nd full year wasn't also a good choice. The kid was not a superstar and will never be. He was okay but maybe Patrese would have performed way better in this car that he might have understand quickly super well as he drove the Fw14. Now again the succession of mistakes from 1992 (firing Mansell and getting Prost who after 1993 decided to retire and also not being able to keep Patrese neither Mansell the two original drivers of a car like the Fw16) wasn't particularly any good idea. But they did. You have to add to this that MSC was growing up quick and Benetton too. And they did a fantastic job. BUT check what Mansell achieved in 4 races non consecutive while he was driving at Indycar. He put the car easily in front row at his first appearance. Why? Because he was used to drive a very very similar car in 1991 and knew how to properly handle it. He also put in on pole in his last race for Williams in Australia and was about to end up 3r but got the win. That speaks by itself. The lack of traction is something Ayrton wasn't used to and Damon was probably so inexperienced in a car like it that none of them understood how to handle that. If they'd have kept Mansell from 1992 onwards I think story would be very different.
@Durbanite2010
@Durbanite2010 Жыл бұрын
Everyone was having issues with their cars in 1994, not just Williams. McLaren had those horrid Peugeot engines, Ferrari were still trying to recover from their awful 1992 and 1993 seasons (their cars were rubbish so they made sure everyone else went back to their level using the FIA), Tyrrell were still using the terribly unreliable Yamaha V10, Lotus were on life support (soon joined in bankruptcy by Pacific and Simtek), Footwork, Ligier, Sauber and Minardi were midfield at best and Larrouse were bottom of the grid really. The only teams with a positive outlook for 1994 were Jordan and Benetton - Benetton with their "software development" and Jordan getting some reliability from their Hart V10s at last.
@nehylen5738
@nehylen5738 Жыл бұрын
Ligier was under tremendous financial pressure too. So bad they actually pulled a Haas 2021 in 1994 on their otherwise pretty ok 1993 car (best of the rest behind the big 4). Larrousse had always been struggling (like Minardi), but Sauber and Footwork-Arrows looked alright. While it was using 1993 Ford engines, the car was agile and pretty fast on the slow to mid-speed tracks. Quite possibly one of the better chassis on the grid.
@oceanman3996
@oceanman3996 Жыл бұрын
They illegally redesigned the steering wheel column as well using a welder which resulted in the death of a F1 legend.
@AidanMillward
@AidanMillward Жыл бұрын
Senna asked for those modifications. Plus there's nothing to suggest the thing broke to cause the crash or broke in the crash. Schumacher's onboard shows the thing step out.
@gerardgomez4075
@gerardgomez4075 Жыл бұрын
@@AidanMillward Why aren't the wheels turning.. trying to avoid a straight line to the wall? I'm sure that question have been asked a bizillion times..
@F1-Passion
@F1-Passion Жыл бұрын
Adrian should never feel guilty for this, it was a freak accident no one could foresee.
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