Tesla FSD gets Overly Aggressive: The Sequel

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@Jsmith1611
@Jsmith1611 Жыл бұрын
Wow. This video is perfection. The routes, the commentary, the multi perspective video, the overlay, omg. Probably more helpful in understanding FSD than any other source.
@Gelp
@Gelp Жыл бұрын
Good point. Indeed. This is a superb video. So much great content with great observations and commentary 👍
@pulpitrock
@pulpitrock Жыл бұрын
Agreed, you have the best FSD videos I have seen, ever. Awesome job!
@frenchbully
@frenchbully Жыл бұрын
Even the route difficulty had so many edge case scenarios
@MyPapagio
@MyPapagio Жыл бұрын
And on the most difficult of scenarios anywhere in the U.S. Once we know FSD has mastered the bay area we will know FSD has officially arrived. Chat GPT moment will likely come by the end of this year. We are very close.
@Aragon947
@Aragon947 Жыл бұрын
wtf
@XiallaLife
@XiallaLife Жыл бұрын
Yours are the best FSD videos by far. No silly self conscious giggling. No panic on disengagements. No emotional roller coaster. Just smooth as silk delivery of the goods with style and detail. Thank you!!!
@AIDRIVR
@AIDRIVR Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words Xialla! Truly appreciated
@alexanderbeck5998
@alexanderbeck5998 Жыл бұрын
Another good KZbinr with a same style would be Dirty Tesla who is from my experience really good as well
@m.i.c.h.o
@m.i.c.h.o Жыл бұрын
@@AIDRIVR Yeah these videos are sick
@SebasTian-od7oz
@SebasTian-od7oz Жыл бұрын
That transition to the outro starting at 22:25 almost bordered on mastery... I'm not sure I have ever seen such a smooth and satisfying one.
@joyalpatel6000
@joyalpatel6000 Жыл бұрын
This man’s a wizard
@lorenzog4545
@lorenzog4545 Жыл бұрын
Wow the SF road planners made a real mess of these roads 😮 Lots of good data for the Tesla team!
@xsleep1
@xsleep1 Жыл бұрын
You think these roads were planned? More like they paved the existing goat paths.
@Ample17
@Ample17 Жыл бұрын
That's what organic City growth looks like. In Europe that's the default.
@tofuyam7361
@tofuyam7361 Жыл бұрын
IMO SF roads are actually really good for a large urban HILLY city.
@jooptablet1727
@jooptablet1727 Жыл бұрын
@@Ample17 not in northern Europe
@Ample17
@Ample17 Жыл бұрын
@@jooptablet1727 You guys got chess board cities ?
@nickfosterxx
@nickfosterxx Жыл бұрын
Here in the UK, these SF videos are of extra interest because the narrow roads forcing a bit of turn-taking through tighter sections are a lot more like home. Lots of direct drive to driver communication at times! Got to say too, 11.4.1 seems like a bit of a step change forward in behaviour.
@ryanmitcham5522
@ryanmitcham5522 Жыл бұрын
The inability to back up is definitely going to be an issue in the UK though. It needs to be able to back up to work with other drivers through pinch points and narrow sections with parked cars. Otherwise it is always going to expect the other driver to backup which isn’t reasonable, and what happens if it meets another Tesla?!
@mastere6115
@mastere6115 Жыл бұрын
​@@ryanmitcham5522that is probably why they are currently banned in the UK everywhere
@slipperyeel9206
@slipperyeel9206 Жыл бұрын
I actually like the more aggressive behavior, especially in cities like sf or ny where people simply do not let you in.
@Error-33
@Error-33 Жыл бұрын
same, i dont live in america and fsd isnt available in my country but people also sometimes dont give any chances of getting in a lane etc here too and more aggressive behavior is definetly appreciated in these types of areas
@themonsterunderyourbed9408
@themonsterunderyourbed9408 Жыл бұрын
In some places, it's necessary. Would be nice to have a setting for it.
@jjacky231
@jjacky231 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. At some point in the future FSD will hopefully adjust its aggressiveness automatically. Chill in the countryside and frothing-berserker-mode for SF.
@Error-33
@Error-33 Жыл бұрын
@@jjacky231 good idea, would be real nice if tesla would implement something like that onto the vehicles
@stefansnell4976
@stefansnell4976 Жыл бұрын
@@Error-33 Yep, sometimes you have to force yourself into a lane.. I live in LA. Get the front of your car into a lane, now they have to let you in, unless they wanna hit you lol.
@mjezzi
@mjezzi Жыл бұрын
Man, your videos are so high quality. Thanks for putting the effort into it! The end result is so nice!
@ekrajb123
@ekrajb123 Жыл бұрын
The pedestrians crossing on your green (around 16:30) was handled perfectly by FSD. Slowing down to show it won't actually run them over, but still move up real close to show they're in the wrong. I probably wouldn't done little different in such a scenario
@ゾカリクゾ
@ゾカリクゾ Жыл бұрын
agreed, there was no real danger there
@weirdfish1216
@weirdfish1216 Жыл бұрын
“Between adjacent intersections controlled by traffic control signal devices or by police officers, pedestrians shall not cross the roadway at any place except in a crosswalk… This subdivision does not relieve a driver of a vehicle from the duty of exercising due care for the safety of any pedestrian within the roadway.” from the CA vehicle code. don’t really have an opinion on what the car did, just putting that there if there are any “cars running over ‘jaywalkers’ on a slow street” apologists
@rogergeyer9851
@rogergeyer9851 Жыл бұрын
Bjarke: Exactly. There are rules for both drivers and pedestrians. The key thing is not to put the pedestrians in danger, but try to keep traffic moving enough not to induce more honking, etc. It's all about balance in complex traffic.
@rogergeyer9851
@rogergeyer9851 Жыл бұрын
@@weirdfish1216: Given that the car never came at ALL close to running over anyone, such apologists whining about that scenario have no leg to stand on. FSD isn't perfect re pedestrians, but overall, it is impressive, and it's making good progress and IMO in the VAST majority of cases, safety is a very high priority there. Many releases back it used to worry me a bit about disregarding pedestrians walking on the side of a busy road, say, to get into their parked car. But I haven't noticed any issues with that in quite a while.
@ryanhamstra49
@ryanhamstra49 Жыл бұрын
I mean, a teenager who’s in their phone wouldnt have even slowed down. FSD isn’t perfect and still needs work but it’s way safer than the bottom 1/3 or driver, especially if they are distracted.
@wlritchi
@wlritchi Жыл бұрын
19:40 I've consistently seen the beta try to take a right on red whenever it considers the maneuver as "rightward" enough to signal. Easily the biggest safety issue I've encountered with it
@TechWithKishan269
@TechWithKishan269 Жыл бұрын
I like that FSD Beta works great in California with variety of difficult scenario! When using Beta in the Mid-West, it really struggles in the most basic intersections, round-a-bouts, and even 4-way intersections with stop signs.
@profcpbl
@profcpbl Жыл бұрын
Yep. It's still terrible in Montreal. I wonder how they will leverage learning from everywhere yet make its training specific to so many places. I suppose if you just have location as a high level input to the top network, it will figure that out optimally.
@MarkFunderburk
@MarkFunderburk Жыл бұрын
I wonder if it has to do with the population density of those areas? They get more training data in SF than anywhere else and it manages to work fairly well despite the challenging situations. Perhaps as a caution the NN has certain aspects that it needs to learn from local-ish experience.
@NJ-wb1cz
@NJ-wb1cz Жыл бұрын
​​@@profcpblhere are a lot of Teslas in California, so they can just copy what other drivers are doing in all sorts of situations. Since no other area is projected to have that many Teslas any time soon (or ever) given the increasing competition from other brands, your experience is likely more representative of the real Tesla experience than these videos for the time being
@mndrix
@mndrix Жыл бұрын
@@MarkFunderburk I think you're right. Tesla should consider giving a discount on FSD for driving in uncommon territory; help motivate novel training data
@Glenhh
@Glenhh Жыл бұрын
I think it has to do with map data. Although Tesla isn’t willing to say out loud that map data is necessary, it is. Not the 3D HD map data Waymo needs, but at least data to know how many lanes are going right for example.
@heppesg
@heppesg Жыл бұрын
Love your transitions from the Rear Following View to the normal view. Gives a great perspective.
@rogergeyer9851
@rogergeyer9851 Жыл бұрын
Steve: Yes, especially for showing things like that very difficult left turn where both sides were mostly blind for the driver view. That multiple camera viewpoint is going to be VERY helpful for FSD safety in the longer run.
@andyfeimsternfei8408
@andyfeimsternfei8408 Жыл бұрын
I drive Beta everywhere, but your videos blow my mind! Third-party viewing adds a whole new dimension to what it's doing! Thanks for all your hard work!
@williamreynolds6132
@williamreynolds6132 Жыл бұрын
It does so much better than I would. I get overloaded when there’s tailgating, honking, pedestrians and limited visibility. Good to have multiple ‘eyes’ on the road.
@tristanmoller9498
@tristanmoller9498 Жыл бұрын
If this car does so much better than you would, it might be time to practice driving some more.
@straighttalk2069
@straighttalk2069 Жыл бұрын
@@tristanmoller9498 The thing is this car can drive better than you me and every one else, just not all the time in every situation. It doesn't get drunk, it doesn't do drugs, it doesn't get pissed off and it doesn't get super depressed about loosing family members, getting a divorce or other road users.
@NJ-wb1cz
@NJ-wb1cz Жыл бұрын
Problem is, you're expected to be a much better driver than that to be able to constantly monitor it and decide when to engage. Essentially, you're in the role of the driving instructor here, and it takes more skill to navigate the same roads as a driving instructor overseeing a student than on your own
@MaGiKRat420
@MaGiKRat420 Жыл бұрын
You're exactly why people don't trust teslas and their drivers
@NJ-wb1cz
@NJ-wb1cz Жыл бұрын
@@MaGiKRat420 yes, but they are the ones who actually need it, and Tesla knows this. It's like selling and marketing heroin but acting like heroin addicts are the ones to blame for giving heroin a bad name
@KelelaSB
@KelelaSB Жыл бұрын
7:59 I agree with you that the preferred approach was the one FSD took: smoothly turn right into the leftmost lane. Surprised to hear people griped at you about such turns. (This is in "my neighborhood," which emanates from just across the Panhandle at Lyon.)
@rogergeyer9851
@rogergeyer9851 Жыл бұрын
KekekaSB: I wouldn't even like to have to USE that intersection. I was impressed at how it handled it (but I think it choosing the right lane for simplicity would be better as a strategy until it improves more). It's far easier for folks to complain than do better themselves or do something constructive.
@Tonedefff
@Tonedefff Жыл бұрын
Like he mentioned, it's legal in California, but where I live (Oregon) it's not legal. From Oregon Dept. of Transportation's website: "Be sure to follow the pavement markings and stay in your lane when executing turns onto roadways with more lanes than the lane you are turning from. ... The general rule for turning is to turn from the nearest lane in the direction you are traveling to the nearest lane in the direction you want to go. Avoid swinging wide or changing lanes while turning." Of course if there are no other cars around, it's safe to "ignore" this law & turn into whatever lane you want, but I'd be worried about drivers who are used to making this maneuver and then do it while distracted & I'm in their blind spot.
@lordcrispen
@lordcrispen Жыл бұрын
It's also law in Ohio to use turn into the closest lane. I have only ever seen it enforced when they're looking for a reason to pull someone over in after-bar hours when they're looking for something to do.
@yannickschmid1608
@yannickschmid1608 Жыл бұрын
Great idea to have a summary at the end. You could even include stats like interventions per minutes driven and then show how that metric develops over time. That could indicate, whether an update goes in the right direction and Tesla makes progress towards Level 5 autonomy.
@dcdales
@dcdales Жыл бұрын
I feel like having Disengagements Per Hour would be a good metric to have if you do a summary at the end. If you did a 20min drive, multiply D by 3, if you drive 30min, D*2, 2 hours is D/2 etc. Very cool ride, though! Curious about smoothness Lombard St (even though I know it's been done to death on previous versions already).
@GamerBoyRobby
@GamerBoyRobby Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@CameronReape
@CameronReape Жыл бұрын
​@@crispyslotit's how often he disengages, same amount of disengagments. on this trip, for example, he had seven disengagments. across both parts, the drive was about an hour and half, so it is three and a half disengagments per hour. @dcdales
@CameronReape
@CameronReape Жыл бұрын
I think that would be interesting
@valtterivalo
@valtterivalo Жыл бұрын
I think that's silly for many reasons, but mostly because it really depends on where you're driving. You can drive for hundreds of hours of interstate without disengagements, but might get 3 in 15 minutes driving in a city that has rough spots and unforeseen circumstances.
@En1gm4tic
@En1gm4tic Жыл бұрын
​@@crispyslot isn't that the whole purpose of statistics? To understand and interpret previous data? I think it'd be a nice way to see improvement. Though, in addition, drives would need to be done on similar or the same routes for accurate analysis ^^
@bspencersf
@bspencersf Жыл бұрын
Great content … I too am using the beta in SF and bay area and am in awe of how good it is getting. Yesterday it made a left and accelerated quite aggressively to utilize a small gap in the oncoming traffic. It’s amazing how confident it’s getting.
@manolitocatalasan4937
@manolitocatalasan4937 Жыл бұрын
Thanks AIDRVR for posting this two episode series on V11.4.1. It is mind boggling on how far FSD Beta has improved since Oct 2021. Your videos are so entertaining and well worth watching frame by frame. :) Great job.
@pranavnigam11
@pranavnigam11 Жыл бұрын
14:41 Honestly, I rewatched that part a bunch and it took me like 30 seconds to find the red light even after you said it was there
@Gnosim
@Gnosim Жыл бұрын
Self driving cars that you can buy/own are great for point A to B, especially for going to unknown areas. You only have to pay attention to the wrong things it might do, where as if you were driving yourself, you'd have to pay attention to the correct map/street address/turning points/new roads/landmarks/etc. Most people dont realize how useful it currently is. It will be even more useful as it becomes better and better at catching the fails and correcting itself.
@chrismarquardt
@chrismarquardt Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Some really nice polish on this video. I particularly liked the very end. Such a nice detail to let it come to 0 mph and then play the park animation. You’re an artist. And obviously obsessed with details 🙃
@freezy5367
@freezy5367 Жыл бұрын
I love it that you make more videos lately. As always the quality is great on your channel. Please keep doing what you're doing. (As an added bonus for me I also learn English while watching)
@WirageVoyage
@WirageVoyage Жыл бұрын
I think the interaction with the couple crossing the red light was very good.Pretty much the same as I would have driven, slowing down ready to stop, but still approaching them. I can't wait for FSD to come to Europe
@minimaddu
@minimaddu Жыл бұрын
This looks amazing -- I'm personally not super picky about whether it's slightly more or less aggressive, instead preferring improvements to awkwardness and unpredictability. My two biggest complaints are still turn signals and that it gets _more_ jittery (including with the accel pedal) in uncertainty, not less. I don't know if it's improving because the uncertainty handling is getting better, or if there are just less situations where it's uncertain, but I'm glad to see it. I wish there was some sort of clamp on how hard it's allowed to jerk the wheel the moment after the path planner makes a drastic jump, because those are the scary situations where it's suddenly decided to cut across lanes in an intersection or something. A jumpy path planner should be dampening the steering wheel and lowering the speed until it figures out what's actually safe/correct to do next. I'd also love a chime specific to uncertainty, like we get with construction, like "hey, I'm probably about to mess up". Which brings me to my biggest fear, that it doesn't actually know it's uncertain in those moments. 😅 Anyways, great videos!
@malax4013
@malax4013 Жыл бұрын
Those are good points but in some situations hard jerk might save you from accident so you really can't limit the jerk. Planner just has to get better.
@minimaddu
@minimaddu Жыл бұрын
@@malax4013 I get that, in theory, but it isn’t good enough to be preventing accidents like that yet. That can’t be the reason it has a loose leash until the majority of jerk is really preventing disaster. Today it’s just the system freaking out 99% of the time, which trains the drivers to immediately override this behavior, potentially catastrophically in the rare instance it was correct. This is why I’d rather have uncertainty communicated and a “heightened risk” alert that I can react to as a driver by watching surroundings more closely, rather than being alerted via a new, unnecessary problem (the car veering itself into the wrong direction or brake checking the person behind me)
@minimaddu
@minimaddu Жыл бұрын
At least that would be my preference. The way it behaves in uncertainty now freaks me, my passengers, and nearby vehicles out. It’s the main reason I rarely turn it on when anyone else is in the car.
@malax4013
@malax4013 Жыл бұрын
@@minimaddu Maybe it could be done the way that the system determines the seriousness of the situation and the limits the jerk if there is no real chance for accident. But this also might reduce the data of situtation that Tesla team really needs. I agree with your statements but I believe FSD-team has a roadmap for fixing these things. They still have lots of big architectural changes to make and those will probably fix these issues. After the major part of the software is upgraded to neural networks they can start focus on more direct problems. I think that will be at the end of second half of 2023 or first half of 2024.
@howardrodack6191
@howardrodack6191 Жыл бұрын
Just want to say Wow!! The quality of this video is exceptional! You guide us through everything we need to see with confidence and aplomb. The Beta is amazing and you can see it's progress trajectory that will allow it to vary it's behavior for location. Thank you for taking the time and effort to produce an FSD beta that is not only informative but fun to watch!!
@MrClaudehammond
@MrClaudehammond Жыл бұрын
Love the detail of your analysis! You are helping the process immensely by finding things like the going through red lights problem! I saw this on my drive too.
@jaredcaines6688
@jaredcaines6688 Жыл бұрын
12:34 Semi truck with ppl walking beside it was the highlight of this video for me. Lol
@speedracer9132
@speedracer9132 Жыл бұрын
16:9 is the most common display type, I really hope you go back to that so I don’t have black bars on my tv anymore
@Ren_K4
@Ren_K4 Жыл бұрын
If you haven't already: I would love to see a video where you compare some of the first versions of the beta to the new one (like a side by side or something). Might be a fun way to re-use old footage and show how much it's improved - just an idea:) Great video!
@netgnostic1627
@netgnostic1627 Жыл бұрын
That timid behaviour looking for a lane change would work great in Vancouver, but people here in Calgary would not slow down to let you in. In Vancouver, just flicking on your left signal would have resulted in a gap forming. The difference in driving etiquette is kind of extreme between two western Canadian cities, so I don't know how the FSD team are choosing what behaviour to use!
@MikeDeezy_100
@MikeDeezy_100 Жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of the style of your videos with the overlay letting us see what FSD is actually saying as it makes decisions. I've been really interested in trying FSD in my Model 3 and videos like this really help me set expectations (and help decide if I'll try it out with family in the car) so I appreciate your content!
@johnrahn2677
@johnrahn2677 Жыл бұрын
I greatly appreciate your excellent narration. I also like the large area display of the FSD screen. It shows very clearly what the car is planning and how it intends to interact with other traffic.
@spinindustries2602
@spinindustries2602 Жыл бұрын
The first part of this was your first video ive clicked, and i just want to say wow you are very good at making videos. There's no good time to close the video (in a good way) so im 15 minutes in before i even realize it. I bet your retention rate is crazy. Great stuff
@AIDRIVR
@AIDRIVR Жыл бұрын
Truly appreciate the kind words, thank you!
@rb8049
@rb8049 Жыл бұрын
If FSD can handle SF, it will handle most other places. Great to see all this testing.
@r3ttgaming177
@r3ttgaming177 Жыл бұрын
20:43 I believe the turn signal the car gave here was in no real relation to the upcoming right hand turn at all (I'm basing this off the fact that it stopped signaling inbetween). I think the car might have actually used its turn signals to show the cyclist it was intending to go back in the lane. If I was going to use my turn signal to show "hey, I'm going back to my lane now" this is in the ballpark of how I would have done it. I don't own a Tesla but I felt I had to point this out. Love ya content man!
@gobills7728
@gobills7728 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how much better self driving is getting
@rogergeyer9851
@rogergeyer9851 Жыл бұрын
Go BILLS: Yes, at least in the areas it gets a lot of training. It's still wildly inconsistent between various locations, but the cumulative overall progress is VERY impressive. At least for small areas, it's no longer a question of if, but when it gets good enough (though LOTS of work is needed for things like parking lots and turning around and properly pulling over to drop and pick up, etc.) And hopefully then smaller areas can expand and merge and become bigger areas. Like Waymo recently expanded its driving area near Tempe, for example. (And Tesla just totally dominates it there now in a head to head comparison on the same ride, given Tesla can use the highways and Waymo can't).
@NeuroScientician
@NeuroScientician Жыл бұрын
Outside of California, it's straight suicidal
@gobills7728
@gobills7728 Жыл бұрын
@@NeuroScientician makes it more fun
@tblissful
@tblissful Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing. All kudos to you Mr. Driver. And your loyal, sidekick car, brain on wheels. I’ve been watching your videos for years now and each is a new experience. Growing up is hard to do. But it is happening.!!
@MooseMeus
@MooseMeus Жыл бұрын
i love how it doesn't block that intersection. better than 90% of humans.
@epgui
@epgui Жыл бұрын
I thought the right-of-way assertiveness in the presence of jay-walking pedestrians was really good... At least in that specific situation. I'd like to see more trials of similar situations to gauge how safe it really is, but what it did here just before 17:00 is pretty much what I would have done.
@rmkep
@rmkep Жыл бұрын
I'm familiar with most of the drives in this video and as the families designated driver, I can attest that most humans would not do well navigating the streets of this drive. I'd go so far as to say it is well beyond the skill level of most drivers and FSD does a terrific and safe job of navigating the mean streets of San Francisco. Amazing progress by the Tesla FSD Team and with the neural network kicking in, it should be orders of magnitude improvement with each new version. Your videos are the gold standard of FSD videos and my hope is that the neural networks will mean real time updates to FSD without having the issue software releases ... you know, like human learning. This will allow my wife to realize her dream of the electronic chauffeur for her Model 3 and future Tesla vehicles. As for me, only incapacitation will keep me from driving myself. 🙂
@slipperyeel9206
@slipperyeel9206 Жыл бұрын
4:00 the cars were stopped illegally though, you could clearly see the “keep clear” on the street 🤷‍♂️ Edit: If you look at the lines painted on the ground the car was actually making the right decision to take the far left lane. But because the cars were blocking the intersection it tried to adapt which resulted in the broken path chosen. It was making the right decision though.
@MrMadness574
@MrMadness574 Жыл бұрын
I’m on 11.3.6 and FSD is scary AF in Los Angeles streets
@GothicDragonX
@GothicDragonX Жыл бұрын
I am not a Tesla owner and don't plan on buying one anytime soon, but I can't deny that autopilot has come a long way from FSD V8. Keep up the excellent work. Oh, for the lane change, at 7:30, while making a turn, I generally do the same. If there is no oncoming traffic, I switch to the most left lane I need or going to change to eventually. Usually, if I am at a red light and change to green, with no other vehicle on the left-hand side coming, I sure turn to the left lane. That is if there is no vehicle turning in that same direction. I am in NY.
@marn200
@marn200 Жыл бұрын
2:23 I dont know your local laws but in the netherlands it is illegal to park or stop (for other situations than traffic) within 5 meters of an intersection. Doesnt stop all people from doing it though.
@keijuhl
@keijuhl Жыл бұрын
I bought a Model 3 last month and have added the FSD subscription to try it out. I received the beta in the last update. Watching your videos is great to see how it acts in many different situations. Thanks for sharing!
@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers
@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers Жыл бұрын
I love that you’re doing these videos, so a huge thank you! In watching, I am thinking in terms of the traffic where I live and I know Tesla would be perfect in Green Bay. There is nothing so complicated here except perhaps roundabouts and I think it’ll do fine. Always interesting and your commentary is fabulous. Thanks again for doing these! You must be having some fun being out and about in your Tesla!
@Inturl618
@Inturl618 Жыл бұрын
You are so good at what you do with high quality video and commentary
@peminatkenderaan3783
@peminatkenderaan3783 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Mexico City. Finally a video about Mexico scenarios . 1._. 4:22 Here we have a lot of intersections without traffic lights with peak hour traffic were you have to be agressive or take turns merging. 2._. 7:06 Very common to turn on the reverse lights, with the car behind leaving space for us to do Reverse Parallel P.arking 3._. 10:24 Its now or never. Sometimes you have to jump lanes aggressively to take the turn, or it is a 2 miles deviation. Please please, do more of these ones. You rock !
@korvish111
@korvish111 Жыл бұрын
When I watch your videos, as an engineer, I marvel at the system. From detecting objects, signs, to deciphering human behaviour, to control of the car. It’s bewildering how what it’s doing is possible. But I also see how far we are. For this to work fully properly, it needs to understand human gestures for example.
@oyuyuy
@oyuyuy Жыл бұрын
If they get this working in San Francisco, getting it to work in Europe will be a breeze. All the stop signs, 4-way intersections and left hand turns are a nightmare, in my city I think I could count those on one hand. Roundabouts and traffic lights make driving so much more straightforward.
@jakoblykke769
@jakoblykke769 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I had no idea Tesla's self-driving had become this good. Incredible to see!
@KelelaSB
@KelelaSB Жыл бұрын
12:18 Cool that FSD shows the brake lights on the double-parked car-though ideally it could do so blinking rather than solid to acknowledge its emergency flashers.
@CoreyChambersLA
@CoreyChambersLA Жыл бұрын
When turning right in CA, you must end up in the right lane unless you are in another designated late, in which case, you must end in the designated lane. When turning left, you can end in any safe, legal lane.
@RobertDStark
@RobertDStark Жыл бұрын
That is correct. California Code, Vehicle Code - VEH § 22100
@davemerk68
@davemerk68 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive! I definitely see the advantage of driving in an area with lots of data. Living in a less populated area in AZ, (roads/maneuvers much less complex than SF), I have more disengagements. Looking forward to AI/NN/Data spreading everywhere geographically. Awesome video!
@dallashom
@dallashom Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your honest assessment AiDriver! I have similar experiences, but tend to disengage more often because I’m not as brave as you. I was in SF today, and FSD wanted to make a left turn when it was not allowed; so I had to disengage. Wonder if it was a mapping issue.
@importon
@importon Жыл бұрын
"assertive" should also mean, don't go through intersections at 2mph after a light turns green or it's our turn at a stop sign. ACCELERATE WITH PURPOSE LIKE A NORMAL F****** DRIVER!
@Cw7003
@Cw7003 Жыл бұрын
I’m impressed. Just a couple years away from being perfect in some areas and maybe 5 years away from being perfect here in Canada even with all the gravel side roads. AI will move that along quite quickly I believe.
@nettlesoup
@nettlesoup Жыл бұрын
There are other FSD Beta drivers showing gravel side roads have been working well for some time, even OKish in snow. I'm curious what particular concerns do you think Canadian gravel side roads present that US ones don't?
@BigBen621
@BigBen621 Жыл бұрын
When you talk about how many years to get to some goal, keep in mind that it's only been six months since FSD Beta was released to everyone, and a rough calculation shows that some 2/3 of all FSD Beta miles have been drive in the past six months. Further, AFAIK Dojo isn't fully on line for training. If you think about the progress in the last several months, it doesn't seem to me that we're years away from *anything* .
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund Жыл бұрын
In Europe there is a general ban on parking closer than 30 ft from the corner of a curb. That reduces the number of parking spots in old towns with short streets, but it really makes life easier driving.
@williamrobson8876
@williamrobson8876 Жыл бұрын
We're at the beginning of a new era. FSD is learning, and so are we. It did fantastic overall. It's difficult for mankind to give up control of their surroundings. But we shall adapt regardless.
@jonbecherer5103
@jonbecherer5103 Жыл бұрын
thank you for this long and detailed real world example of where the software is currently at.
@RogueVigilante
@RogueVigilante Ай бұрын
Honestly the Self Driving Mode is just Incredible and I would love to have more of this in cities like I feel it would cut down accidents to huge degree
@aureliencamps2859
@aureliencamps2859 Жыл бұрын
The zoom out transition from inside cam to outside was incredible !! Great vidéos as always
@sanb8595
@sanb8595 Жыл бұрын
FSD is using map data. I found out recently - “GPS lost” message in a tunnel under a bay.
@ryanedwardofficial
@ryanedwardofficial Жыл бұрын
you should count interventions/ disengagements per hour of use in each beta to try and compare them
@MichaelDevlin246
@MichaelDevlin246 Жыл бұрын
I got good idea if you put a sticker saying this is a "semi self driving car" maybe it stop drivers honking so much 😊😊
@I_dont_want_an_at
@I_dont_want_an_at Жыл бұрын
when it moved up into the intersection where it had previously left a gap for turning vehicles, it actually WAS the right move. It saw that traffic ahead had started moving. That combined with no cars on the opposite side of the road made it a great move
@gustavorosa1260
@gustavorosa1260 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!! Love the quallity of this channel. It's impressive how the Tesla could see and predict some situations. Two months we can see an amazing improvement, I'm always thinking how the car will be five years later.
@WyGuyyy
@WyGuyyy Жыл бұрын
Huge improvements! I get recommended your videos about once or twice a year, and every time it improves so much! This is more like it!
@glowcube
@glowcube Жыл бұрын
Looking awesome! ^_^ Love how smooth everything is in this version! :D
@upnorth7497
@upnorth7497 Жыл бұрын
The new Audio is DEFINITELY noticeable. I had my headphones in, watching this in a parking lot and it caught me off guard thinking it was actual cars and/or people multiple times.
@kwskyblue
@kwskyblue Жыл бұрын
Love the fade at the end. Great drive, definitely shows the progress being made.
@razorshark4
@razorshark4 Жыл бұрын
What a great video. Subscribed. FSD and your voice kind of align in rhythm, smooth but decisive. Video quality is great, and so is audio. Keep it up!
@AIDRIVR
@AIDRIVR Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@KelelaSB
@KelelaSB Жыл бұрын
17:00 Amused by the astute observation that being a pedestrian you're-statistically, at least-much safer with FSD than with a human drive.
@SameerHalai-wn4lj
@SameerHalai-wn4lj Жыл бұрын
Can you share more info on those statistics that show that a pedestrian is safer with FSD than a human driver? I was trying to find that but was not able to.
@marcingrzybowski1764
@marcingrzybowski1764 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to write about adding a summary for all interventions and disengagements, but you've tought of that already. Happy to see your great videos getting even better with each upload!
@IT9GameLog
@IT9GameLog Жыл бұрын
About the crossing scene, I love how the FSD being assertive about its right of way while doing it safely.
@simonyapp
@simonyapp Жыл бұрын
Such a well made video and FSD is really something now days. Hats off to Tesla team and your channel. Thank you
@timw1971
@timw1971 Жыл бұрын
Spectacular video. Glorious editing and annotation. Bravo!
@ZERONEINNOVATIONS
@ZERONEINNOVATIONS Жыл бұрын
It's also fun to see the beautiful city too! I live in Oklahoma and every road is "go straight, turn 90 degrees, go straight". It looks really hard to drive in San Francisco....
@maakuw
@maakuw Жыл бұрын
I have driven, as a resident, in 10 states and 26 cities (8 in California). I can tell you FOR SURE not only are the laws different, but the "accepted/acknowledged rules of the road" depend on the area more than the law for sure. Looks like it's adapting to that, which is dope!
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen Жыл бұрын
7:40 I liked the way it went over multiple lanes. Here in Finland, the traffic rules specifically allow this kind of move *if* the lane changes to do it otherwise would be very fast because in that case, going directly to the intented line reduces risk of accident. However, the rules also say that the driver doing this manouver must yield to all traffic so you have to be careful with that action.
@nonesounique
@nonesounique Жыл бұрын
Awesome commentary and picking the most 'troublesome' venues to test real life situations. I'm looking forward to my 14.1 release, hopefully soon. I just drove back from Lake Tahoe to Los Gatos, CA using FSD 13.6.8 about 97% of the driving time with only a handful of interventions, non critical!
@BigBen621
@BigBen621 Жыл бұрын
It looks like the rollout of 11.4.1 has about stopped, with only about 5% of eligible cars getting it. You'll probably have to wait for 11.4.2.
@johngriswold2956
@johngriswold2956 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, enjoyed part 2. Loved the cable car / semi / funeral procession.
@SamuelMM_Mitosis
@SamuelMM_Mitosis Жыл бұрын
I personally wish tesla wouldn’t have to account for differences in traffic laws. As a software engineer I can tell you that dealing with different laws in different regions is a nightmare. The easiest way to do it is if the law exists somewhere just do it everywhere
@battyblu
@battyblu Жыл бұрын
what a stress test
@EmersonPeters
@EmersonPeters Жыл бұрын
I agree with all of your comments. I think you have a great understanding of what is appropriate driving. You're doing great! I wish the die hard rule followers would take a chill pill. If fsd followed all the rules, it would cause more accidents and frustration on the road. Doing what other people expect you to do is more important for safety. I think fsd couldn't have done better in a lot of these situations. It's really amazing how far it has come.
@jrb7199
@jrb7199 Жыл бұрын
Love the "...bye." at the end. Not awkward at all.
@STEVEF777
@STEVEF777 Жыл бұрын
Amazed how well it works in SF. In Virginia on 11.3.6 I still can't get to the gym and there is only 1 left hand turn. FYI, in VA you can cross white lines and even change lanes in an intersection.
@captainswjr
@captainswjr Жыл бұрын
You have to remember FSD is being trained on the east coast too. When the radio starts playing Shippin' up to Boston and it goes into cheetah mode....
@bencovington6180
@bencovington6180 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god. You started the drive at my house and went my exact route to school everyday, even stopping right in front of it.
@nyr4942
@nyr4942 Жыл бұрын
1:01 bro i had my speakers all the way up and my sub shook my entire house with that sound effect
@hotrodhunk7389
@hotrodhunk7389 Жыл бұрын
Funny the people who are honking are the bad drivers. Tesla's doing what it should. After 15 years and a couple million miles driving a semi truck I realize you're going to get there. Speeding may take a few minutes off your trip but it actually doesn't add up to be that much time.
@MikeKoss
@MikeKoss Жыл бұрын
WA Driver's guide: Turn from the lane that is closest to the direction you want to go and turn into the lane closest to the one you came from. When making turns, go from one lane to the other as directly as possible without crossing lane lines or interfering with traffic. Once you have completed your turn, you can change to another lane if you need to.
@ShotgunAFlyboy
@ShotgunAFlyboy Жыл бұрын
Slow-rolling rather than stopping is vital to busy crowds. Crowds can easily handle one more object moving slowly, but if you stop expecting them to take turns the way a car does, you will be stuck forever.
@TheRealTobias
@TheRealTobias Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed watching that (2 part) video 😊 Here are some of my thoughts: - If you add a summary, it would be nice to break the disengagements etc. down to driving time and/or driven km (miles if you must 😉 ) e.g.: 1.7 disengagements/hour or so. That would help to compare the different autopilot versions. - I think you do a great job of estimating the risk of a driving situation and giving the AI enough room but disengage if necessary - appreciate all the awkwardness you have to go to at times! ;) - As a (sadly) not tesla driver it took me some time to figure out what the white messeges showing the AI intentions are - Your visualisation with all the details you put in is incredible and hepls unterstanding whats going on. Also your very well timed narrative explaining a situation is super interesting and gives insight of what's going on! Looking forward to thr next video, thanks 😊
@M1A1SteakSauce
@M1A1SteakSauce Жыл бұрын
It’s so hard to ever get a good read on FSD as the team being based in California, it usually performs well here, but the moment you get outside of California, it’s like a completely different vehicle.
@sr4087
@sr4087 Жыл бұрын
@5:25 youd be right it shouldnt be creeping up but you answered why it was seconds later; it was planning a path down the way and realized cars were beginning to move forward
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen Жыл бұрын
13:20 I think the high contrast of the tree shadow causes the camera vision system to guess that the road surface is so bad that it shouldn't go straight forward.
@rogergeyer9851
@rogergeyer9851 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video. There are too few FSD videos showing such complexity and giving the insight / detail re the FSD decision making, good and bad points, improvement, etc. In comparison there are far too many videos showing only simple scenarios, normal roads, low traffic, and claiming FSD is good to great. Like we KNOW FSD is pretty darn good on divided highways already, for example. Your videos help me understand that the progress is real and effective in even complex areas, with enough training. The real challenge will be getting the full suite of needed skills AND enough consistency for a wide-area robo-taxi capable L4 network.
@vanmankennedy
@vanmankennedy Жыл бұрын
I'm an Uber driver in a college town, and there are many spots in town that I thought that FSD would not be able to handle for many years, but these last two videos have me thinking it might be there soon. To be clear, I still don't think the system would correctly handle some of the extreme intersections in town at this point. I would love for someone with FSD Beta to come to town and put it through what I think would be the hardest torture test in the US!
@boostav
@boostav Жыл бұрын
19:50 You're looking at it the wrong way, it has the right turn signal on because it's thinking that it's doing a right turn on red.
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