Aikido vs Punching

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Aikidoflow

Aikidoflow

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@TheGrue129
@TheGrue129 9 жыл бұрын
"Let's say he comes with a jab." Dude throws a cross. Good job guys.
@liljohnny210
@liljohnny210 9 жыл бұрын
Lol I was thinking the same thing. and all the punches thrown in the video were right hands
@maccheese7010
@maccheese7010 9 жыл бұрын
People don't train in boxing think all straight punches are called jabs.
@dayleclarke4433
@dayleclarke4433 9 жыл бұрын
+Anonymous "Matthew" James Madison people who don't train in boxing think boxers only learn six punches and then do sit ups. Massive misunderstanding about how much depth there is to it
@nadir6661
@nadir6661 9 жыл бұрын
+Dayle Clarke I thought its was 3 strait ,uppercut,& hook....
@davericos
@davericos 9 жыл бұрын
+C Bass I stopped the video right there because i knew this was going to be shit if there wasn't a real boxer throwing the punches.
@mack7963
@mack7963 9 жыл бұрын
this would have been a much better demonstration of aikido vs boxing had you gone to a boxing gym and tried this with a real boxer, having your 'Boxer' wearing a Gi just makes it look like you used a guy in a gi to play at being a boxer, i really don't intend for this to be disrespectful and it is a question that needs answering, but it needs answering authentically, and you can only do that with a real boxer who has a boxers mindset.
@Aikidoflow
@Aikidoflow 9 жыл бұрын
+Mario Mackinnon We are thinking about this whole issue!
@mack7963
@mack7963 9 жыл бұрын
i have a feeling that aikido might have its work cut out for it, and that's not to say that Aikido doesn't work, you may as well say the laws of physics dont work, but boxing isnt like fighting, if that makes sense, and if you did do this it would be interesting to see a truthful out come, regardless of winner, Good Luck with it if you do
@mack7963
@mack7963 9 жыл бұрын
i believe its down to self protection, if your art is seen to be ineffective against other styles then it doesn't attract new students, and way too many styles are a victim of their own limits, i really hope that the guys on this channel do this, because by doing this, aikido can evolve, i have always believed that if you deny aikido works then you deny nthe l;aws of physics work, as long as the results of this potential experiment are used to identify and correct weaknesses in aikido, and there are numerous, then aikido will benefit and so will the students. one further point to the guys at aikidoflow, when i was in an aikido class i had a falling out with my sensie, i suggested that uki wear something like mma gloves, my reasoning was that punches could be thrown without proper damage being caused, this would allow a much better sense of pressure and test the techniques on a higher level, my suggestion was ignored because "thats not how aikido is taught", this attitude absolutely needs to change.
@mack7963
@mack7963 9 жыл бұрын
I have always believed that Aikido is 90% timing and 10% technique, take for instance ikkyo, i was taught this from a wrist 'grab' there was a lot of emphasis on what to do when grabbed, now heres my gripe with that, only later did i figure out that there should never be any ability for your opponent to actually 'grab' hold of you on the street, and that once you are physically connected to your opponent Aikido becomes a lot more difficult, but nothing like that was ever conveyed, i think a lot of wisdom gets lost in the teaching, we had a guest instructor who in one night cleared up my question about the bo stick techniques, and showed us how aikido would do against a knife attack by using red markers, the bo issue was explained simply by telling us that the bo techniques were there in case your opponent got lucky and managed to grab the stick, it made so much more sense after that, the point is, teachers need tyo let go of the idea that Aikido is a style in and of itself and by learning ikkyo sankyo etc etc the student is well prepared for the street, there needs to be more understanding about Aikido's limits and how those limits can be overcome, only by placing Aikido in front of another martial art will those limits be clear.
@mack7963
@mack7963 9 жыл бұрын
precisely why this kind of test needs to be done and shown. i have seen wing chun in matches and to be honest it becomes almost unrecognizable as wing chun, too many styles are dishonest in their portrayal of their style against another, maybe aikido needs to adopt a boxing mind set in order to be effective against boxing, who knows, i do hope these guys do a proper and unbiased test of this.
@DarrenStarr
@DarrenStarr 8 жыл бұрын
Aikido is really good for the door. It doesn't look aggressive, yet is very effective. Especially good when it comes to court cases. Punching, Kicking, Elbows and Knees as used in Muay Thai is much more likely to get you assault charges when they look at the CCTV than the much more peaceful looking Aikido. Also reduces reprisals as the aggression and pain are much more controlled. Really great explanations. Very clear and helpful. Thank you Azu!
@stephenhicks9902
@stephenhicks9902 8 жыл бұрын
1. The person throwing the punch in this video is pulling the punch and positioning his hand so you can block, he isnt trying in anyway what so ever to hit you. 2. Timing. You know he is about to punch, you know where he is going to punch, you know he is then going to stand still and do nothing more. 3. Because of 2 you know exactly that what you are going to do is going to work perfectly. There are no variables involved that could cause what you are doing to fail. I like Aikido, but people need to see it in as close to real life situations as possible, not staged demos that can be picked apart in a second.
@kevinabram1068
@kevinabram1068 8 жыл бұрын
yes so agree with you. although you can see many simple aikido techniques, it needs bravery and good timing to do the techniques perfectly on certain situations
@nachojimenez2420
@nachojimenez2420 8 жыл бұрын
also, no one sets up with the left hand in front and the "jabs" with the right hand. . . on and on.
@DanhVo-uj1cf
@DanhVo-uj1cf 8 жыл бұрын
At first you should look and know they are left or right hander, so you can guess where is the first punch will go. Also they usually throw the hook punch first if they are not fighters (my experience)
@DanhVo-uj1cf
@DanhVo-uj1cf 8 жыл бұрын
you can learn aikido with MMA or Muay Thai, most people in Japan learing it with Karate. And i'm sure that if you practice your reflection perfectly, you will easy to guess when they want to punch by look at their eyes and shouder
@Topnomad
@Topnomad 8 жыл бұрын
so you will guess which hand they will throw first? by the time you've guessed you'll have a splattered face
@asmcriminaL
@asmcriminaL 9 жыл бұрын
As a former boxer. This video proves nothing. This "boxer" in the video threw the exact same punch 2 times. A right hand. No boxer in their right mind would start off a fight like that. Bottom line is, "get in the ring."
@Debiruman1666
@Debiruman1666 6 жыл бұрын
Nope, it's all a matter of timing, of forcing your opponent to be where you want him to be (or not), and seize the momentum... that's why you want to walk back to force your opponent to walk forward, to seize that split second where he'll be out of proper striking stance and out of balance. + boxers footwork made them extremely vulnerable to sweeps (OK, that's not a sweeping technique showed here, but Aikido has sweeping techniques) + every self-defense system is about dodging/parrying/blocking strikes, they do it every day, all day long, Aidido, Krav-Maga, Jiu-Jitsu etc... boxers with no training in another system have no clue about sweeps, grabs, joint-locks, throws, chokes, ground-game etc... Only a very good boxer could possibly outsmart a very good specialist in one of the most efficient self-defense systems... and I'm pretty sure that such a very good boxer would never take place in a street-fight in the first place, because he hasn't to, he has discipline, and maybe enough self-respect to not assault anyone unnecessary.... only a low-class overconfident boxer will, and he pretty much will be destroyed, because a street fight isn't a ring fight, for the person you'll assault, it will be a matter of life and death, he will throw at you everything he has, he won't hesitate to break your arm, choke you, eye-gouge you, or stab you with a knife... in self defense, you don't learn to "fight", you learn to defend yourself by all means, even the dirtiest ones.
@gorillajits
@gorillajits 5 жыл бұрын
@@Debiruman1666 so u mean to say every guy walking around doing aikido is a specialist?? And very few boxers walking around are not as good ?? That's just bullshit 😂 have u every sparred ?? I mean the guy that's pretending to be a boxer doesn't even know how to punch 😂 so yeah, he's definitely not a good boxer and would definitely get wrecked by a better boxer 😂
@zagorith14
@zagorith14 5 жыл бұрын
​@@gorillajits Man, I can't take you seriously because of the emojis. We aren't children. We don't need to see that crap. Stick to using emojis in text's to your gf. They just look stupid here.
@itsallaroundyou7085
@itsallaroundyou7085 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing that makes traditional martial arts seem corny is they're always doing scenerios. Just learn your moves and fight. Anyone gets good at fighting by fighting and you will do so with the techniques of your chosen art. All the moves you see in these things are completely applicable but the only way to get comfortable enough to pull them off when someone is bombing haymaker's at you is to spend a lot of time with someone bombing haymaker's at you lol. Full contact sparring is the most effective training tool there is period.
@pilot.wav_theory
@pilot.wav_theory 4 жыл бұрын
@@stuartkuek9984 boxing and judo is a great combo
@fx02zbn
@fx02zbn 8 жыл бұрын
All this hate I read about this aikido demo not working against a real boxer.Bollocks.I hear the same shit when people are slagging off wing chun, saying it's no good in MMA and in the street and so on and so forth.The art is only as good as the man. No martial art will turn you into an unbeatable superhero, not even Boxing.All any martial art can do is help you think, sharpen your reactions and show you where to strike and how to defend or limit any possible damage.All martial artists, including Boxers, are vulnerable. No one art is superior to another. We are all different and choose different paths in martial arts because different styles suit different people.The superior Martial art is the one which is practiced by someone who fits it like a glove, so a Judo Black Belt may never be Happy in Hapkido for example.Grow up you haters, stop being keyboard warriors and go find an art that fits you and leave others to do what suits them.
@michaelreynolds9073
@michaelreynolds9073 8 жыл бұрын
+fx02zbn well said sir !!
@kamikaziu
@kamikaziu 8 жыл бұрын
+fx02zbn And I hear the same shit when people say its person not a martial art. Thats not even halftruth. Fighting is just using some set of techniques. Most wing chun and aikido techniques are untested and impractical bullshit and it doesn't matter how long you have trained them - there are still better ways to fight. For example: punching by only straighting your arm - bad, punching with hips and upper body rotation - good.
@bobtom1678
@bobtom1678 8 жыл бұрын
+kamikaziu winchun uses hip and body rotation as well. That's how you generate power. It's demonstrated in the second form called Chum Kiu. If you watch closely, a winchun sifu will twists his hips and flexes his muscles right before impact. This is similar to a boxing punch as well
@TheBoxingCannabyte
@TheBoxingCannabyte 9 жыл бұрын
Well, as a boxer who has trained with people who have extensive training in Aikido I can say that it most definitely can go both ways. There's no definitive answer, it comes down to the fighter. That said, to catch my jab you have to be able to actually catch it, or say you catch it, is it quick enough to stop a follow-up? A shovel-hook, an overhand or underhand right, a hook to the body? What if I throw out my quickest combo? Hell, I'm pretty slow but I can sneak by guys a lot faster than me. There's a lot of nuance. I'm a huge fan of Aikido and am looking into learning it currently (esp now that my boxing days are over, more or less). Mainly I've been learning Wing Chung, but I do find the concepts of Aikido to be fascinating and think they'd compliment my style very well.
@gamingSUPERB
@gamingSUPERB 9 жыл бұрын
You might want to start learning wing chun from a different place if you think it's called wing chung
@the0nagers
@the0nagers 8 жыл бұрын
Or maybe you don't listen to thomas, our old troll ;)
@the0nagers
@the0nagers 8 жыл бұрын
sure.
@criticaltinker
@criticaltinker 8 жыл бұрын
go ahead bro. it's hard to understand aikido unless you are there. start with traditional aikido(aikikai). because that's where the real basic are. going advance is really easy once you nail the basic and understand the concept or principle. everything will be easy then. you even invent your own way as long as it's inline with the principle.
@criticaltinker
@criticaltinker 8 жыл бұрын
think of the real world attacks. when a person is really really mad, they will attack like going to eat you. that's when aikido works. that's why fluidity is very important. aikido utilizes the momentum of the attack, when you stop or pause, momentum is gone. that's when aikido is less effective. practice all the technique dynamically. no stopping. move like a water. if you practice/learn a technique by the number at first, let's say 4 counts. master it until you make everything in 1 count. try again. in training attacks are not real that's why it looks ineffective.
@forgottensailor2006
@forgottensailor2006 9 жыл бұрын
When you say "He's going to come at me with a jab" then he comes in with a straight, it doesn't do your video justice. Real boxers (And I mean real boxers) are twice as quick and use the jab as a setup for other punches usually. Change your title of the video to 'Aikido vs. Different types of Punches' or maybe 'Common Punches vs. Aikido'. This isn't boxing. I respect you for putting on the gear and at least making it real but again, your giving people a false sense of security when you show them how a boxer might fight (to the untrained/novices mind) if they've never dealt with one before as opposed to a real one.
@ronin2167
@ronin2167 9 жыл бұрын
+forgottensailor2006 I see this as being similar to a boxer clinch. He is closing the distance to nullify the punch. I too would like to see it verses a skilled boxer to work out what would work and what wouldn't. It is accepted that in a fight you are going to get hit. I don't think he is trying to say you wont.
@dayleclarke4433
@dayleclarke4433 9 жыл бұрын
+James Diffey another misconception. Do you think boxers don't know how to close the gap and crowd the person. How many people slag off Mayweather for a lead right and then grabbing and turning a guy?
@timwilliams1603
@timwilliams1603 7 жыл бұрын
There has been a lot of attacks on Aikido, mainly because it's a peaceful martial-art, and it does not mix with the uber-macho, aggro, MMA, brainless, bully mentality that now infects martial-arts (in general). Only having learned the basics of aiki, I have been in altercations where someone has attempted to punch or kick me. And, the results have always been the same: it is so simple to defend against such attacks with (even) the most rudimentary of Irimi techniques. Admittedly, I know if I took on a professional boxer, I'm 99.99% sure I would get my ass handed to me. However, I also know that if I would have had the time and ambition to stick with Aikido over the past ten years, there would be a professional boxer laying on his back, bewildered, frustrated, exhausted, and wondering why I won't fight by the rules. Or, maybe, someone should ring the bell, so the boxer can catch his breath?
@annaeembinannahari2516
@annaeembinannahari2516 7 жыл бұрын
Tim Williams I don't think MMA is aggressive, brainless, having a bully mentality or in short, thug-ish like you described. In my opinion, people are more in favour of MMA is because the UFC straight-forwardly showed what worked and what did not work. That's the beauty of MMA. Then there are arts like aikido, wing chun, etc, claiming to be effective but failed to show proof. That's why they faced many "attacks." These senseis and sifus then talked big about how martial artists must have values like honesty, integrity, etc, but where's the honesty and integrity about talking without proof? An example would be like you who faced many altercations using aikido, unfortunately, we only have you story-telling. And i would also point out about not fighting by the rules, where some people claimed that sport fighters could not fight without rules. Well, everybody knows that there are no rules on the street right? Ok, groin strikes. Every WOMAN knows how to kick the groin without any fight training. You think sport fighters can't kick balls on the street? What about biting? Even a kid knows how to bite. Everybody needs to eat right? Nobody needs any martial arts training to bite. You think sport fighters can't bite on the streets? Sport fighters cannot pull hair on the streets? Sport fighters cannot eye gouge on the streets?
@gorillajits
@gorillajits 5 жыл бұрын
@@timwilliams1603 lol Tim Williams I guess u don't know what you're talking about 😂 MMA or any martial arts form for that matter doesn't make one a bully it solely depends on the individual. A guy who trains aikido can also be considered a bully if that's the kinda person he is. So this whole aggro macho shit you're talking about is all in ur head 😂 but that's okay my dude everyone is entitled to their opinion. U have a very happy new year
@notmyname108
@notmyname108 9 жыл бұрын
aikido vs "what aikidoka thinks boxing is" :-) Why don't you try with boxer instead?
@tlspud
@tlspud 8 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how critical some people are. I appreciate your videos. Thank you and blessings upon you!
@bubbeN999
@bubbeN999 8 жыл бұрын
Aikido. Bullshittery since 1930. Still going strong in 2016. Good job guys
@rev.anthonyo.flaggsr.4141
@rev.anthonyo.flaggsr.4141 8 жыл бұрын
I look for the principles of Aikido and you demonstrate them well. Use your opponents momentum against him to achieve your objective, peace, a cessation of conflict. Most attempt ego gratification as opposed to peace. Keep teaching this because it just makes sense. Thanks!
@Aikidoflow
@Aikidoflow 8 жыл бұрын
We are with you! thats what we feel too
@kingdeucey
@kingdeucey 8 жыл бұрын
troll
@Simbad961
@Simbad961 7 жыл бұрын
Every martial art uses the logic of "using your opponents momentum against him" This is not something unique to aikido.
@zagorith14
@zagorith14 5 жыл бұрын
@@Simbad961 Where did he say that it was exclusive to Aikido? Is it not a principle aspect of Aikido? Yes. It is. Did he say that it was unique to Aikido? No, he did not. Misconstruing what someone said and putting words in their mouth is not a civilized way to debate.
@Simbad961
@Simbad961 4 жыл бұрын
​@@zagorith14 Having to emphasize that a martial art uses the opponent's own momentum against himself is an idiotic statement in itself and completely unnecessary. While he didn't state that it is exclusive to Aikido, it did sound like it is unique to Aikido. There is no logical fallacy in my own comment. Just because something was not literally written, does not mean that one can't draw a conclusion from that same text. If you say that Aikido uses this and that, someone reading might think that only Aikido does so. Otherwise, what is the point of mentioning it? There are already numerous myths about aikidoka flipping people around with a snap of their fingers when their opponent charges at them or swings at them. Such things are, of course, preposterous, and someone might easily draw upon the wrong conclusion that only Aikido masters use the opponent's momentum to counter them. So, while he did not say that it is unique to Aikido, many who have never practised martial arts or are misinformed about them might draw the conclusion that it is.
@TheDroghedaBellRinger
@TheDroghedaBellRinger 8 жыл бұрын
Love your work, sensible, real, practical and functional. Thanks for sharing
@tvil1969
@tvil1969 6 жыл бұрын
I have the greatest respect for Aikido and all of the fighting arts. However, I just want to add that this technique only worked because the first throw that was attempted is with what some boxers call the "Knock out arm". It would be the right hand if right handed and the left hand if left handed. Boxers dont use their knock out arm or knock out punch as the first punch. Anyone who does those isnt a real boxer. Boxers will throw quick jabs first to disorient and off balance the opponent. Once they see that the opponent is on defense then and only then will they use the knock out arm to attempt to knock out the opponent. I what have liked to have seen an actual scenario where this kind of fight was simulated.
@johnrife7134
@johnrife7134 9 жыл бұрын
there's a reason Akido is unheard of in MMA.
@Debiruman1666
@Debiruman1666 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because MMA is about "fighting" = 2 guys equally trained, facing each other in a secure area, knowing they're going to fight fairly a fight ruled by a referee, knowing pretty much everything about their opponent... Aikido is about reacting in a split-second to an agression by someone who isn't even expecting his prey to react... that's self-defense, not "fighting", nobody with some common sense wants to be involved in a street fight, because things can quickly turn dirty, that's why the n°1 thing you learn in EVERY self-defense system is to walk away when you can, and confront your opponent only if there's no other possible way... y'know, Krav-Maga is the number one self-defense system in the whole world, learned by military, cops etc... it's also "unheard of in MMA"... (by the way, Krav-Maga is pratially based on Aikido).
@huntergiron2388
@huntergiron2388 5 жыл бұрын
And mma is unheard of in real life
@TM-rh7zs
@TM-rh7zs 3 жыл бұрын
The reason its unheard of is because small join manipulation is literally an illegal move along with many other aikido moves. Also the fact that many traditional schools do not pressure test their techniques and aren't very realistic.
@believerster
@believerster 3 жыл бұрын
@@TM-rh7zs Wrists and ankles are classed as large joints under the unified rules, and you see plenty of wins by ankle lock. Aikido is just not a very effective art. Looks cool, though.
@Daniel-ox1sb
@Daniel-ox1sb 3 жыл бұрын
Aikido is not meant to be a fighting style in itself, it is more of a complementary style whose grips and movements can work with other aggressive styles. It's also more functional as a non-combative martial art. Stop disrespecting a martial art when you are thinking of Steven Segall as its primary practitioner.
@miketucker5828
@miketucker5828 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. I would only add that a good friend of mine, Seetu, is a former light heavyweight champion in Muay Thai. He studied and trained, and mastered, Muay Thai from the age of twelve to twenty-six. After retiring from Muay Thai, he was a professional bodyguard for six years. In his work as a bodyguard, he used a LOT of aikido to protect his clients and save their lives.
@meirnaiman3842
@meirnaiman3842 9 жыл бұрын
great video...i like how you demonstrate with real sparring at the end, unlike so many other channels that just talk and show techniques slowly.
@Aikidoflow
@Aikidoflow 9 жыл бұрын
+Meir Naiman We feel the same way too, something like this just had to be done at full speed.
@kevinparham1505
@kevinparham1505 9 жыл бұрын
Not bad so far
@djpickleballplayer
@djpickleballplayer 9 жыл бұрын
There is a problem with the demonstration at full speed. He started blocking before the guy threw the punch.
@djpickleballplayer
@djpickleballplayer 9 жыл бұрын
Colon - no...you can't start blocking before the punch STARTS being thrown. That would have to mean you knew what he was going to do before he did it. That was what happened here. I did know a lot about blocking and evading punches from having down it over the years in karate and jujutsu. In fact if someone knows about blocking, they can see that you cannot effectively block a punch in the manner that he did in this demonstration. Watch again and you will see that he blocked with his rear hand ( right by crossing his bidy
@djpickleballplayer
@djpickleballplayer 9 жыл бұрын
Crossing his body. You don't have time to do that against a real punch. You have to block with the lead hand and feed it to the other hand. This guy in the video is clearly not used to practicing against punches. The punch was anticipated which gave him more time to react.
@andreelyusef3235
@andreelyusef3235 6 жыл бұрын
This is awesome brother. I have been in martial arts since I was 13. I am 43 now and this is very practical. He doesnt need to test it on a so call real boxer at this point. He is only demonstrating the technique which is far more than I can so for 90% of martial arts today. If it works against a straight punch being thrown it can work. The rest is timing, no matter who throws the punch. You dont have to test a kicking defense technique when your learning the principle against a karate masters.
@JustSomeGuy69420
@JustSomeGuy69420 9 жыл бұрын
Man, people really need to drop the "he's not a boxer" shit. News-flash! 99% of people aren't boxers and can't throw a punch worth a damn! Sure, it'd be nice if this guy threw punches just the way YOU liked them. Maybe they'll do something like that in the future. I agree he's not the best puncher, but most people aren't. I think the principles in the video are sound, and I hope Aikido practitioners realize that people want to see the techniques work against aggressive opponents. This is better than the majority of Aikido videos. You people will fucking complain about anything. If you and your friends can throw better punches, then great! Try these moves and make it work! Duh!
@Aikidoflow
@Aikidoflow 9 жыл бұрын
+Brandon Hewitt ..well said Brandon !!
@dantheman4838
@dantheman4838 9 жыл бұрын
+Aikidoflow I'd love to see you use Aikido do defend a double leg take down.
@thomastobin1492
@thomastobin1492 9 жыл бұрын
The question was about a trained boxer, not the average Joe or 99%
@JustSomeGuy69420
@JustSomeGuy69420 9 жыл бұрын
Agiysgsvsiepwnxg fuck all y'all. Yeah, i guess it would be nice to see it against a good puncher. My point is, this shit will probably work against almost everyone if you practice it. Maybe these guys can find someone who can throw a punch.
@thomastobin1492
@thomastobin1492 9 жыл бұрын
Brandon Hewitt It probably would work. I just want to see it.
@Anthony126517RKO
@Anthony126517RKO 9 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the better Aikido concepts videos i have seen on KZbin. Closing the distance is what most grapplers do in a self defense. I do like the idea of you trying it out but it's hard to judge it as Aikido vs a trained Boxer when your friend is not a trained boxer so he doesn't understand how the strikes work. I think this however is good for Aikido vs an untrained striker. :)
@mallick26
@mallick26 9 жыл бұрын
I've always thought, boxing footwork and head movement would be a good addition to Aikido. Nice video, good explanation on the issues.
@Aikidoflow
@Aikidoflow 9 жыл бұрын
+mallick26 thank you.
@gutiepiettv2432
@gutiepiettv2432 6 жыл бұрын
The best thing about aikido is the way they break the balance of the opponent.
@VgniK88
@VgniK88 8 жыл бұрын
For starters the guy throwing punches is not a boxer n doesn't throw even close to how a boxr would throw,
@afro__g5217
@afro__g5217 8 жыл бұрын
No set ups, i see what you mean. If i was a boxer, i would keep moving and jabbing and setup my combos. I'm a wrestler and i would love to do MMA in the future.
@Topnomad
@Topnomad 8 жыл бұрын
correct, and the assumption with these bullshido arts seems to be that the attacker will just throw one obvious shitty punch thats would never land
@khaderalikhan3029
@khaderalikhan3029 3 жыл бұрын
@@Topnomad And he is asked to "throw" a jab, but comes in with a cross. And he steps forward with right foot which i s not boxing but a cross between a boxing and a karate punch. I have trained in boxing, karate and aikido and know that each needs to be respected for what it is while recognising the limitations of each.
@keithkruger7270
@keithkruger7270 Жыл бұрын
GET IN....great advice. People don't understand what makes aikido work isn't the hands or the techniques but the MOVEMENT
@bakters
@bakters 9 жыл бұрын
You guys are reinventing Wing Chun. Which is fine, of course.
@Aikidoflow
@Aikidoflow 9 жыл бұрын
+bakters lol..well re defining how big aikido really is!!! We think its Unlimited
@bakters
@bakters 9 жыл бұрын
Aikidoflow Yes, I agree. Aikido is good stuff. Way more useful than people think it is. For example, I was against a group a few times, and I wish I trained your drills. Pure gold. But you need to be there to see it. Actually, I think you guys should make a vid showing how those "unrealistic" drills translate into a real fight for your own bones. Could open a few eyes.
@mauryfinkle2096
@mauryfinkle2096 9 жыл бұрын
+Aikidoflow this video was gayer than the time I saw two guys having sex and I jerked off in the bushes
@HECTORARTUROA
@HECTORARTUROA 9 жыл бұрын
+Aikidoflow I have been developing my own style using Wing Chun and JKD principles (i am a Karate black belt) and my conclusions about how to neutralize an mma fighter are amazingly similar to yours. Other alternatives are: a hit to the front to the neck or a takedown pushing the neck with the forearm. I think you have your own style, not Aikido, I understand you are using a little bit the principles of Aikido specially against the hook, but there are more Wing Chun principles implied in your tecnique in my opinion. Good job my friend.
@bverji
@bverji 8 жыл бұрын
+bakters What they are showing isn't strictly aikido. It is either aikijujutsu or aikido that has been modified to be more like aikijujutsu. As such there are some similarities to Wing Chun, but a lot of differences.
@richardaikido119
@richardaikido119 8 жыл бұрын
I am an Aikido instructor (Takemusu - direct aikido). Being really good at Aikido doesn't make you invincible to other arts - i wish it did but doesn't. I did 7 other arts over 29 years - the last being Aikido (15 years). By doing other arts you gain knowledge of how they move and more importantly 'why' they do things. I had the exact some issue - how can aikido deal with someone that retains balance such as a boxer? I went to boxing classes. Against the boxers defo watch out or they will knock you out but i found soft deflections enables you to know,feel and setup for the technique. A straight Nikyo is almost impossible to apply without these soft deflections. ( a bit win-chun esq - if that makes sense) There seems to be a lot of people discrediting arts that appear soft in favor of harder styles ie MMA, etc I did the same early on in my martial arts until I could see the benefit in all arts. In some fight configuration as some time interval there must be an optimal counter/attack/defense and that optimal technique could be a karate kick,kung-fu punch or an aikido technique, etc. bit deep but just my 2 cents...
@911Salvage
@911Salvage 8 жыл бұрын
You have to understand what aikido means to actually appreciate it as it is. You see, the word _aiki_ means a waste of time and effort and _do_ means way. So, _aikido_ means a way to waste time and effort. It's much easier to appreciate the art once you know the literal meaning of the name.
@miketucker5828
@miketucker5828 9 жыл бұрын
Aikidoflow : Outstanding. Brilliant footwork, brilliant blocks and strikes. Folks, notice how the Aikido Master is moving laterally, moving to the side of the boxer (because a boxer can land easily if he's taken on straight ahead, boxers are used to that). Aikido teaches circular movement and taking away your opponent's advantages.
@DreadlockDrummer
@DreadlockDrummer 9 жыл бұрын
i'm seeing a lot of "this would never work against a real boxer" commets! as someone who has taken classes for a couple years in both boxing and aikido, i can say that it does work. However, the problem with a lot of aikido schools is that they like to stick to tradition a little too much, so in class they only get to practice against a traditional karate style punch or something like that. It's really up to the people who are serious about being as effective as possible with aikido (like these guys) to work around those flaws and actually practice against moves that you would more commonly see someone on the street attack you with such as a boxers jab cross strikes or a drunk persons hay makers. It really is all about adapting the way you practice aikido. Another example would be katanas (samurai swords), aikido has a lot of great moves for an unarmed opponent to disarm samurai swords from an attacker, however obviously in this day and age it would be pretty damn rare to see someone on the street walking around with a katana, so to compromise and prepare yourself for something more likely to happen, you replace the katana with a baseball bat, because it's the same idea, someone swinging a bat at you will be using fairly similar body motions as someone swinging a sword, so you can adapt the movements and practice that way. I have shown this to a friend once (who was a NON BELIEVER to aikido) and he was quite shocked when i was able to take the bat from him, especially because his intention was to make me look like an ass by trying to make it very hard to get the bat away from him.
@TheSboobsy
@TheSboobsy 9 жыл бұрын
This is surprisingly extremely close to what I learn in krav maga
@robertbelyea5767
@robertbelyea5767 9 жыл бұрын
Joe Rogan brought me here and that sure aint boxing.
@walkaboutbase9961
@walkaboutbase9961 9 жыл бұрын
Joe Rogan is a washed up drug user who constantly bashes traditional martial arts. Why people listen to his opinions is beyond me.
@ancientdarkness3102
@ancientdarkness3102 4 жыл бұрын
@@walkaboutbase9961 yeah, better follow the advice on how to beat a boxer in a demonstration without a real boxer but instead another Aikido bullshit practitioner that doesn't know how to throw a punch, right?
@coolplayznogame8855
@coolplayznogame8855 9 жыл бұрын
Aikido should be a part of every good Martial Arts training in some way or another. .Nice1 must trust the art they practice.
@NIGHTSTALKER973
@NIGHTSTALKER973 9 жыл бұрын
Since its a common topic I would like to see bjj vs aikido
@HorridFroth
@HorridFroth 9 жыл бұрын
+Dominik Doherty It'd be interesting to see what these guys make of that. I don't know that it's a fair comparison though - a ground based martial art vs. a non-ground based art. Also, BJJ is far more practically based, given the amount of sparring involved. Aikido is more co-operative during training. I know, because I train in both.
@bverji
@bverji 9 жыл бұрын
+Dominik Doherty BJJ would most likely destroy an Aikido practitioner in a straight up competition. Aikido, however, is meant for competition and BJJ isn't practical out side of a controlled environment. Art vs Art isn't the only consideration for which is "better"
@bverji
@bverji 9 жыл бұрын
Good Old England sorry that should of read "Aikido, however, is NOT meant for competition" The NOT got dropped. The intention should of been obvious in context though.
@premiumbackgroundmusic
@premiumbackgroundmusic 9 жыл бұрын
+Dominik Doherty BJJ was specifically created for self defense, Helio Gracie created his own system because he was very small and weak, he wanted to adapt traditional Ju-jitsu so he can deal with bigger and stronger attackers. Competition came way after that. So yeah, BJJ is primarily a self-defense art but not many gyms focus on that nowdays because everybody wants to train for MMA or something like that.
@bverji
@bverji 9 жыл бұрын
BJJ isn't a "self defense" it is a martial art or fighting system. A self defense is designed to deescalate an altercation; that's impossible with an art designed to pin someone on the ground.
@8329kelso
@8329kelso 9 жыл бұрын
This video I think is a step in the right direction for varied flexible aikido training. No not "real" boxing but good non the less. It shows in aikido there are possibilities that most don't see. This video is just scratching the surface. Good work aikidoflow
@Aikidoflow
@Aikidoflow 9 жыл бұрын
+8329kelso We are going to be looking into this more in the new year, thank you for your comment
@alanfreeman7374
@alanfreeman7374 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this one.. Been wondering about such a situation myself.. Peace..
@Aikidoflow
@Aikidoflow 9 жыл бұрын
+Alan Freeman Thank you Alan
@alanfreeman7374
@alanfreeman7374 9 жыл бұрын
Yw my pleasure bro.
@mverick748
@mverick748 9 жыл бұрын
Better than I expected (kajukenbo black belt + 3 years aikido). Good job Aikidoflow.
@brenttaylor7196
@brenttaylor7196 8 жыл бұрын
So I'll say it again. You said at the beginning of this video that you would show "Aikido versus Boxing", but there was no boxing and no boxer in the video. Aikido versus Boxing would be really neat to see. Please go to a boxing gym and do it! And please stop saying "we can't because we'll get hurt". Thousands of people Box every day. Put on headgear, you'll be totally safe. Nobody will get hurt. Stop making excuses. Otherwise, this is just friendly fraud on your part... right? :)
@nuclearwaste2062
@nuclearwaste2062 8 жыл бұрын
There is no aikido in this video either...
@Rikk1825
@Rikk1825 6 жыл бұрын
He'd be forced to play by boxing rules rendering the whole venture moot.
@teukurian090598
@teukurian090598 8 жыл бұрын
"In any scenario, when you're about to fight, the first thing you should do is turn around and walk away." Just what my guru said
@zagorith14
@zagorith14 5 жыл бұрын
@RAWSNL Better way to stay out of jail for brawling on the streets like an idiot.
@hedrick5286
@hedrick5286 8 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't work against a regular guy throwing punch
@godfreytshishonga1037
@godfreytshishonga1037 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for practical demonstration, it doesn't necessarily have to b a boxer. Such demonstrations proves the practicality of the techniques. Thank you once more
@Zer0nite
@Zer0nite 9 жыл бұрын
So providing you know what your oppoent is going to do next, you'll be okay. Please.
@peteralanturner9296
@peteralanturner9296 6 жыл бұрын
Azu gave the best advice at the 1:30 mark. Walk away or better yet don't get yourself in a bad situation, like leaving a bar alone at 2 in the morning.
@brettbarager9101
@brettbarager9101 8 жыл бұрын
let's see how you do against a real, trained boxer rather than your demo partner
@vinniej87
@vinniej87 9 жыл бұрын
I think I heard that in the 70s fights were settled by fist fighting. In the 80s, most fights were settled by knife fights. During the 90s, most news stories were probably of drive-bys and turf war shoot outs.
@hagensteele4447
@hagensteele4447 9 жыл бұрын
While I respect the fact that you are at least putting on some kit and trying to apply your technique to more realistic attacks, I'd like to see you take it a step further and encourage the "boxer" to continue his attacks, as it looks like the dude is simply quitting. The number one reason Aikido is impractical for preventing somebody from punching your head in is due to the fact that Aikido trains at unrealistic ranges, against unrealistic attacks, from a cooperative partner, and this is highlighted every time an Aikido practitioner tries to apply their techniques against a resistant opponent that doesn't telegraph their attacks. People just don't have the reflexes needed to see an attack and apply the Aikido techniques before they get hit, or get hit with follow up strikes. Thanks for the upload, regardless.
@thomastobin1492
@thomastobin1492 9 жыл бұрын
Thats why you take the techniques and principles and perfect them as taught, (to understand proper form) while training to make them reflexive. Teachers only pass down 80% of what they know. It's up to you to fill in the rest, or the art degrades.
@mvaigafaf
@mvaigafaf 9 жыл бұрын
what a wonderful art aikido is...i'm hooked now
@gabrielmaksimov3071
@gabrielmaksimov3071 9 жыл бұрын
aikido vs wrestling
@fatmirkabashi3371
@fatmirkabashi3371 7 жыл бұрын
Respects guys for your Aikido. Fatmiri from Albania
@1974spr
@1974spr 9 жыл бұрын
This is another bullcrap demonstration. Look a real boxer is going to feint, and when you bite he's going to switch up. You are having your man do one punch, committing to that one punch, and then you counter it. Have a REAL boxer. He's gonne faux jab and then overhand straight. Fake rabbit punches then when you take the bait he's gonna switch to a hook or an uppercut. Someone who's going to use his footwork and not stand rooted in place. This is what I'm talking about. Not a demonstration but a real, refereed match between an aikido practitioner and a boxing practitioner. Then I'll believe it.
@mangravy2000
@mangravy2000 9 жыл бұрын
+1974spr They already did this in the early days of the UFC. There is no "getting out of the way". BJJ proved it is the superior martial art. Now that all MMA fighters study it BJJ has pretty much been nullified in sport combat. This whole notion of any art relying on quickness of hand and/or foot makes it a failed art. You will never be that much quicker than your opponent unless there is a age difference of 30 plus years.
@darkninja136
@darkninja136 9 жыл бұрын
+Ed Floody he said nothing about bjj He was talking about aikido and bjj is effective but striking in mma is still needed now since people know how to sprawl and defend takedowns you see striking coming back again bjj is cool Af tho lol
@mangravy2000
@mangravy2000 9 жыл бұрын
+Ardis Smith "BJJ has pretty much been nullified in sport combat" as I already said. Maybe you were drinking when you read my post.
@darkninja136
@darkninja136 9 жыл бұрын
+Ed Floody still doesn't answer why you bought it up lmao no one was talking about bjj but yeah you right state the obvious sir im not arguing over the Internet especially since I was being respectful
@kendalisadouche
@kendalisadouche 9 жыл бұрын
+1974spr Well, the main thing here is maintaining distance and then closing the gap explosively, if the attacker does not commit, then the aikido practitioner (a good one, anyway) won't enter. that's why he backs off, he makes the boxer commit to a punch.
@jadekayak01
@jadekayak01 8 жыл бұрын
I had to stop at 4:23 because it is apparent that you are using something closer to jujutsu than aikido. you also got the bit about not combating the other guy correct. as a bouncer you can't do this though. at least not in new Zealand. you are supposed to control them first(I think screw that-you don't know what they know or can do so get in first)
@supaflylob
@supaflylob 9 жыл бұрын
that attack at 6:14 was trash. no good boxer would come at someone like that.
@Eric-zs9rh
@Eric-zs9rh 9 жыл бұрын
Truly great advice: Walk away.The most difficult technique to execute.
@duppy9012
@duppy9012 9 жыл бұрын
you cant be serious right? first off the jab is the front hand not the back hand secondly no boxer telegraphs that much on to more pressing matters you clearly understand what boxing is boxers are in and out in the blink of an eye your not catching any half decent boxers arm or slipping inside on him not a chance i have no issue with people loving their art and being passionate about it but however it is an issue to honestly tell people this is going to work on a trained boxer you put people at risk
@funkinjazz5106
@funkinjazz5106 9 жыл бұрын
+Ryan Richardson ... BUT WAIT… did you not listen to what he said in the video?? he said this is not about boxing its a wider issue about getting in and not staying where someone can hit you!, the only risk is if you stand and do nothing.. so Im not sure what your on about
@1983gladstone
@1983gladstone 9 жыл бұрын
nice, I like the practical application....my observation is that if you adjust many styles to the street, it all looks so similar. For example, in this video I see a lot of these techniques in Kali, Kenpo, etc.
@3to1media
@3to1media 8 жыл бұрын
Bad technique. You should be striking while blocking....blocking then striking is far too slow and doesnt work.
@ButThatsMuhFreeduhm
@ButThatsMuhFreeduhm 8 жыл бұрын
So one should intercept the attack with an attack of his own? Is there actually any style or anyone who teaches that?
@3to1media
@3to1media 8 жыл бұрын
+marragonn yes
@ButThatsMuhFreeduhm
@ButThatsMuhFreeduhm 8 жыл бұрын
Geoff W Who.
@psykikninja
@psykikninja 8 жыл бұрын
krav mega practitioners are trained to block while attacking simultaneously for many of their techniques.
@asteriskcolon
@asteriskcolon 8 жыл бұрын
"blocking then striking is far too slow and doesnt work." Ridiculous. Yes, you can find yourself in situations where this wouldn't work, but you can also find or create situations where it will. In any event, he touches on that, he does a "block and attack" with the elbow, if you watched the video...
@vamtheanomaly
@vamtheanomaly 8 жыл бұрын
Aikido can stop one direct strike. Against a flurry attack of random type "boxing style" punches, I don't see it happening. Remember this art was MADE for stopping stuff like single attacks.
@tonydorsett33
@tonydorsett33 9 жыл бұрын
Hilarious.....why don't you test your aikido against a REAL boxer with boxing experience. Instead of one of your students that doesn't even know how to stand in a boxing stance. A real boxer uses feints, in and out movement and doesn't follow through with shots like that. Following through is a big no, no in boxing as it transfers your weight forward and makes you lose balance. Power in boxing comes from your hips, not following through. If you miss, you should never be off balance in boxing.
@jfluffydog2110
@jfluffydog2110 7 жыл бұрын
He isn’t his student , but I agree.
@shihonage
@shihonage 9 жыл бұрын
I'm not a boxer but a mediocre Aikido practitioner, but my boxing guard actually serves a function, and I do 2x faster jab-cross combo than your uke. I'm always interested in finding practicality, so in this scenario my goal would be to feign and try to maintain distance and not let you seize control, while throwing punches as long as I can. I would also not go into compliant uke mode, so you'd have to force the technique. If after that it would still work, I'd be more convinced. Who knows, it might.
@KarmaSenge
@KarmaSenge 9 жыл бұрын
What CRAP! Get a real boxer or Thai fighter in there to throw real punches. Yet another BS demo.
@KarmaSenge
@KarmaSenge 9 жыл бұрын
BTW, I am a self defense "student" of 34+years now. I am USA Boxing coach and certified in many combative systems. Not just a keyboard warrior
@rikunevalainen8154
@rikunevalainen8154 8 жыл бұрын
+Karma Senge You should examine "Christian Tissier" aikido. He was kick-boxer in his youth, now 8dan aikido sensei. Believe me, your many combat systems would be useles after your first trial. I had a chance to train few days with Tissier a long time ago. He was showing very clearly how to "fight" against any kicks and punches with aiki-technics. Azu´s aiki is also practical, and don´t forget he has real-life experience, not just "certificates" like you. Boxing...wow...you should ask from your self why there are brain damaged boxers more than crippled aikido/judo -practicioners ? Better self-defence would be NOT TO train boxing at all. My own experience "does aikido work at streets? " is YES, since all attackers have been normal drug users, boozers and so on, no boxers, MMA, BJJ or other wiking warriors. Ofcource you can get similar skills with ju-jutsu, no need for shinto rituals and cult of o-sensei anymore.
@MartialArtsTutorialsFighttips
@MartialArtsTutorialsFighttips 8 жыл бұрын
+Karma Senge just what i said, this is very disrespectful, putting one of their own to pretend to be a boxer to praise aikido? that's total bullshit
@KarmaSenge
@KarmaSenge 8 жыл бұрын
+Riku Nevalainen I know who Christian Tissier is. And it is still just Aikido. And while I respect Aikido as an art, I have yet to meet anyone that can use it efficiently in combat. You also say, "and don´t forget he has real-life experience, not just "certificates" like you". Well, I never mentioned my experiences. I have had 322 pro competition fights with 314 wins, countless real life fights and have had 3 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as other places while working for the military and gov. I know real combat. I am not just about certificates.
@rikunevalainen8154
@rikunevalainen8154 8 жыл бұрын
I apologize my reference to your "certificates only"...thanks for clearing out your background. "Countles real life fights..." ok, either you are living in ghetto or you should concider somekind of anger management training too. But this is a way-of-live issue then....either you TRY to avoid violence or you are prepared and willing to solve the problems with it. Your military background points to the latter. It is your decicion, it could have been mine too.... Ofcource Azu should defend his point of view personally, but I would see his skills realistic AND he has real-life experience of what he is teaching. If he is using his skills ( based on aikido, ) and he is able to ajust it to the real situations with some punches and kicks, that is not aikido anymore ? If I have been able to avoid/defeat some street thugs with my judo/aikido/ju-jutsu background, so it was the aikido part of my training that was not working but the other martial arts helped me out ? I know some old-school aikido-sensei that have really used they skills in life-threatning situations, so was their skills based on aikido-training or to judo that most of them have trained in their school years in Japan ? Or was it both ? Aikido is not realistic for combat sports, since MMA or similar type of art is based on attacking towards the opponent, so you are forced to attack actively or discarded from the fight..right ? How does the fights end ? Normally on the ground . Is this realistic ? I have seen this type of fight maybe twenty years ago in the street, nowdays it is 10 skinny foreigners against one or two victims. In every situation where I have been in last ten years, all fights I have either ended to fast hand lock, foot sweep or strangling hold, or either one has not been able to grab each other. All these assaulters have propably had no martial arts experience, but potentially they might have carried a knife ( not uncommon in Finland ). Anger-management might be good for me too, if I encounter this too much ? BJJ-type of anakonda fighting is useless skill, when all the other are kicking you or stabbing. Just trying to point out that MMA fighting does not solve all self-defence situations nowdays. Aikido or similar sissy-fighter technics can be more realistics in many situations than you might think, at least in normal sivil life, where you do not encounter your taliban fighters with ak47´s.
@nozomusuzuki7916
@nozomusuzuki7916 7 жыл бұрын
Aikido tries to brings your opponent inside while Shaolin kung fu tries to bring outside of you.
@LICKSHOTTMUSIC
@LICKSHOTTMUSIC 8 жыл бұрын
Aikido won't even work against a rubbish boxer
@scannon90
@scannon90 8 жыл бұрын
Speaking as a former mediocre boxer, I'm not sure I could take this guy. That said, the stuff he was doing didn't look like any Aikido I ever saw.
@nizz0matic307
@nizz0matic307 8 жыл бұрын
It's not aikido lol. its a "modified" version of it because the original version is obviously rubbish. So the whole video is pointless, this isn't actually aikido.
@chrisbrunskill6525
@chrisbrunskill6525 8 жыл бұрын
classic street defence - not a wrist lock in sight : )
@pyqmxbdshc
@pyqmxbdshc 8 жыл бұрын
We are often told that the attacker throws himself on the floor in order to DEFEND himself. Basically, either you fall to the ground of your own volition, or there will be more strikes/joint locks etc. coming.
@pyqmxbdshc
@pyqmxbdshc 8 жыл бұрын
I'm one of those who sometimes attempt to go against the technique for the sake of experimenting. (Also, absolute beginners usually don't do the defensive roll/fall.) And then my instructor usually shows me the various ways in which doing so is wrong. Just before the fall, you are in a really disadvantageous position, and easy to hit. I mean if you ended up in that position then you already lost in some sense.
@steath6722
@steath6722 8 жыл бұрын
Hi! Being an aikido practicioner, I was wandering if you have techniques defense against: 1. come along holds 2. Tackles/ shoots 3. clinches 4. Take downs 5. Chokeholds 6. Bars/ pins Thank you!!!
@jamiehope4580
@jamiehope4580 8 жыл бұрын
love the negative feedback from all the experts lol. mma crap seems the best bahahahahaha. your mma ufc is utter crap no skill required just go ape shit in a cage wow really great skills there. try that in a street fight against few guys sure you take down one rest ain't gonna wait they will stomp your ass. Aikido is about using there energy against the attacker many seem to forget but can't blame you as mma is be all end all crap these days for the monocell types
@kuriouskoopatroopa3129
@kuriouskoopatroopa3129 8 жыл бұрын
Mr Tickles will u marry me? XD u hit the nail on the head, I 100% agree too many mma idiots in the comments. "wouldn't work in the cage", every meathead that ever lived, 2016
@jamiehope4580
@jamiehope4580 8 жыл бұрын
KuriousKoopa Troopa thank you for the compliment ha ha. mma and ufc is mainly BJJ guys yet i see it retarded they need to mock aikido. Then again how many of those who comment really do practice any martial arts in reality. Keyboard warriors of the internet age sadly.
@kuriouskoopatroopa3129
@kuriouskoopatroopa3129 8 жыл бұрын
Mr Tickles lol I had a grown man challenge me on Facebook to see if his judo can beat my karate :O sick of these mma douchebags, some r ok, but I've had so many bad experiences with them it's not even funny
@jamiehope4580
@jamiehope4580 8 жыл бұрын
KuriousKoopa Troopa Yeah sadly they seem to forget its about self defense and not fighting. Yet these idiots think these days its about fighting as they forgot the true meaning behind martial arts. Yes Facebook or youtube idiots love the Internet and seem to be attrack them all like mouths to light bulb at night time
@kuriouskoopatroopa3129
@kuriouskoopatroopa3129 8 жыл бұрын
Very true. Thanks for clearing my head, the buzz in the martial arts community is deafening :)
@RussDud
@RussDud 9 жыл бұрын
I've studied aikido for a couple of years at a couple different dojos - never taught these types of techniques - blocking & striking. These are much more effective options that what most Aikido dojos will teach. Unfortunately most Aikido dojos don't teach what I would call street-effective defenses
@chiefprimo5827
@chiefprimo5827 8 жыл бұрын
aikido is fake
@corvo304
@corvo304 9 жыл бұрын
Love that you guys gloved up and went full speed!!! Keep up the good work
@johnnywishbone932
@johnnywishbone932 7 жыл бұрын
I am a martial arts black belt and a trained boxing coach. The thing about boxing not may people get is boxing has underrated footwork that is totally hidden by the punches and movement. If you want to test your theory contact a boxing gym in a friendly manner. I think Boxing and Aikido would be an nice mix. With the tie ups in clenching and the stand up grappling I think you would be a total machine if the two blended.. Boxing is so effective in about 6 months your Aikido and self defence moves would be off the charts.
@omegapsiphi1911
@omegapsiphi1911 9 жыл бұрын
Well done sir! Love how your concept went from theory to application. How would an Akidoka handle a jab jab cross type of punch. I know in Wing Chun there's multiple ways and they can be a bit confusing on which one to use and how. If you have a vid on that I'd love to see it.....Thanks again and Peace, Blessings and Light to you sir......
@pauldalton6999
@pauldalton6999 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video for showing principles, I know these worked for me. In real life, against real people who wished me serious harm.
@SanDan3rdDan
@SanDan3rdDan 8 жыл бұрын
I would not be so compliant. The guy stopped at one punch... Every time.
@svanhoosen
@svanhoosen 9 жыл бұрын
Looks like that would really work, assuming the boxer throws a punch that the aikidoka is expecting, then just stands like a statue while the aikidoka does all his fancy moves... just like he does in the "full speed" demo.
@cazgerald9471
@cazgerald9471 8 жыл бұрын
I would love to see just one actual fight showing akido. If anybody can send just a SINGLE link for a video I'd love to see it. Doesn't matter if it's a real fight or a competition, but EVERY akido video I've seen so far is simply demonstrations.
@vamtheanomaly
@vamtheanomaly 8 жыл бұрын
I always am respectful as much as possible but you need an actual BOXER or a guy trained in it. In the "hook defense" that guy was NOT throwing a boxing hook. That was a haymaker. Hook is so quick and tight you cant get close enough if its done properly. This is why in boxing , they have evasive moves such as dodging, ducking, etc.
@rickjohnson803
@rickjohnson803 9 жыл бұрын
Really cool video, kinda help me open my way of thinking towards deflection and not rushing head on to see how many punches i can withstand before i knock the other guy out, also nice intro music.
@franklinnanai2745
@franklinnanai2745 9 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks. I am not an Aikido practitioner, I wish had taken it up. I will send some of my grandchildren to learn, it will help with their other martial arts. I hope it will make them be better people.
@Aikidoflow
@Aikidoflow 9 жыл бұрын
+Franklin Nanai The most important thing is they enjoy it, look for that first.
@franklinnanai2745
@franklinnanai2745 9 жыл бұрын
+Aikidoflow Thank you for that, I believe my granddaughters will love it. I won't send my grandson because I am worried he would abuse it.
@gekiryudojo
@gekiryudojo 9 жыл бұрын
yeh I fought a boxer I was a black belt 1st dan in Karate and a 3rd Kyu in Bujinkan ninpo Taijutsu. he was a ABA Boxing Champ. he attacked me giving me two black eyes and bloody nose I stepped forward fish hooked his mouth and did a back roll ending up mounting him where I elbowed and head butted him into the ground he tried to escape and at one point I was biting his leg squeezing his balls a choking him at that point he froze and wanted out we both got up together and I finished him with a step foreword kick to the balls that echoed around the street! he then walked slowly backwards down the street. that was 1985 Bury UK
@ch1mptast1c
@ch1mptast1c 8 жыл бұрын
thanks for an interesting demo. your interpretation of Aikido and offensive defence looks to be very similar to wing tsun.
@maxrr555
@maxrr555 8 жыл бұрын
"as he is throwing a jab" then he throws a cross. good job guys.
@silafuyang8675
@silafuyang8675 9 жыл бұрын
I am training aikido and also training boxing. Both can be very effective against one another depending on how you use it. If the aikidoka relies on his aikido kamae stance for blocking combo punches in the head or can't switch distances fast, he is beaten. If the boxer can't stay in distance for punches or hangs without withdrawning his punch fast enough, he will be thrown or get submitted. It's true that close (clinching) distances are boxers' weakness but nowadays almost every boxer knows how to go into muai thai clinch or into BJJ takedowns from clinch. The problems is that most aikidokas have no idea how to hit andwhat to do against a real hit.
@kobiesboxing4956
@kobiesboxing4956 8 жыл бұрын
I read all the critical comments about how the guy throwing the punches isn't a real boxer, or isn't throwing punches like a real boxer would in which I agree, and this is coming from someone who has trained in boxing & who has used it. But at the same time he did prove this technique is effective against punches, and boxers throw punches. So if he manages to keep up with a boxer's foot work while not taking any fight finishing punches, and not becoming too frustrated when some or a lot of his tricks don't work he might actually get to effectively use that stuff.
@annoyed707
@annoyed707 8 жыл бұрын
You would be best to draw a committed punch or strike at an apparent vulnerability, to extend them a bit and limit their immediate options while you evade and move into a better position for hitting their limbs and attacking their posture, taking advantage of their momentum if you can. Better yet, use an improvised shield or take advantage of the fact that many boxers are in the habit of depending on padded gloves to protect their hands. As for aikido principles, it's their action doing the damage, not yours, when they crack their knuckles on your skull or elbow, or sprain their wrist with a wayward fist. Yes, that rhymes.
@markdinnen
@markdinnen 8 жыл бұрын
this is like when i was about 6 learning karate non contact stuff that doesn't really stop you from being hit from someone with real martial arts background
@1mataleo1
@1mataleo1 9 жыл бұрын
I don't really think that aikido was designed for this type of situation. This is more like a duel between two people who agree to fight, square up, and have a boxing match. Self defense would be much different because the assailant would already be very close to you, and he would just be trying to take your head off without worrying about defending himself (because most criminals are cowards; they chose people whom they don't feel pose a threat to them). However, in the situation presented in this video, for the aikido guy to have a chance, i think the best strategy would be to retreat at an angle, circling the boxer while remaining just out of his reach; if you can force him to keep reaching for you, chasing you, you might be able to make him over extend himself and momentarily lose his balance, giving you an opportunity to enter and apply your technique. But remember, if you are fighting a boxer, you should expect multiple, fast blows that come back as quickly as the shoot out.
@Aikidoflow
@Aikidoflow 9 жыл бұрын
+1mataleo1 Some very good points Mataleo,
@bverji
@bverji 9 жыл бұрын
+1mataleo1 Exactly!
@starlightengram1
@starlightengram1 8 жыл бұрын
In this combination of methods the aiki seems to have a wider focus in the comparison to the tunnel vision of boxing. When aikido would blend to take the arm to lock and pin the zone of focus is still high on the body matching arms to arms. But the leading of the feet by controlling the hand/arm as true aikido wouldn't use jutsu to neutralize the threat. I think you, Azu, are mixing Hapkido with Aikido. The knife hand neck strike is called hangul in Hapkido. Hapkido is the aggressive form of Aikido which is defensive.
@bereruter0
@bereruter0 8 жыл бұрын
i used to box and i really doubt these techniques would work because on that hook that was thrown the way you stepped in gives the boxers a chance to throw the opposite hook while at the same time getting his other hand free and changing angles on you plus it wouldnt be as effective hitting the face from there because he would have his hand protecting his face because he would know from that position you cant get a hook to his body, and using knees and feet that close wouldnt be that effective either, the first technique may work though, i would probably try and let the boxer think that i dont know how to fight and im just constantly backing away so the boxer drops his guard a little and moves in more and more but little does the boxer know thats where your comfort zone is and then since hes moving in you can use that to your advantage and instead of backing away you move in too giving that close range, boxers usualy have great balance and are good at throwing a punch and getting straight out so unless the boxer is moving in on you it would be hard to get a hold of them, especially since they are using to punching with gloves and weights but in a street fight they dont have those so their punch speed will be so much faster, one thing boxers are weak to are kicks since they have their legs spread out for better balance so i dont know much about aikido but if you use kicks in that then it would probably be the best thing to do, a long range kick to get them off balance then move in while they would find it difficult to throw a punch and defend themselves, but never underestimate the punch of a boxer, people say mma fighters or whatever are one of the best but they spend hours a day on many aspects, ground, punch, knees, kicks, defens, elbows and more whereas a boxer spends most their time punching and training their power, well depending on the type of boxer anyways, but its alot more of one area so its basically perfecting the punch but remaining weak to legs but my point being, dont underestimate that punch because it only takes one punch you wanna disarm them as soon as possible so getting them on the floor or getting them in some sort of grapple is the best thing since not only dont they know what to do but they cant throw effective punches, whereas if you just grab one of their arms they can use the other arm to hook you while yanking the arm you have away
@ObamaoZedong
@ObamaoZedong 8 жыл бұрын
The problem is Aikido doesn't have boxers in the dojo with whom you can spar with on an improvisational level. And correct me if I'm wrong, but the point of Aikido isn't to defend against boxers, it's to dicipline the mind.
@mchealey1985
@mchealey1985 9 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how many people watch these videos just to put a negative comment underneath. If you don't think aikido is effective don't get yourself all riled up by watching the videos. Go and get some fresh air :) I personally think these videos are impressive.
@AlternityGM
@AlternityGM 9 жыл бұрын
I'm not an aikido practitioner but study JKD/Wing Chun. We constantly train against the jab/cross/hook/upper cut used by boxers (as well as using those punches against attackers). I think it's good all martial artists train against boxers as they usually have very fast & powerful punches. MMA is very popular these days & many people take MMA or boxing training. While 90% of the population is probably not trained in any martial art, a good number of people have some boxing skills that we need to be prepared to defend against. Good video. Aikido is fascinating & my sifu incorporates some aikido techniques in our training.
@Aikidoflow
@Aikidoflow 9 жыл бұрын
+AlternityGM Yes Good Points, Thank you.
@LuggageChestHead
@LuggageChestHead 9 жыл бұрын
I remember a wing chun lesson I visited: The Teacher explained a technique against a certain boxing combo and then told me to be the boxer in this scenario. He said go and I hit him with this certain combo twice before knew what happened - things may mess up, when someone really used to his stuff tries it with you... and i just had 2 or 3 years of muay thai training, not beeing a real boxer though. I miss a bit more forcing elements in your follow ups, the knee won't be enough, when your opponent really wants to fight. I think Aikido has more to offer, when it comes to this. Dont't take me wrong, it's fine that you try to expand your horizon by trial and error and I am sure that you can overwhelm a lot of hobby boxers out there with this, especially when they just want to hit you, not playing sparring games like doing faints and stuff.
@MrISUAREZ
@MrISUAREZ 8 жыл бұрын
I was a Professional Boxer and I have Study AIKIDO for 12+ years, and my hands are very Fast, As a Boxer I throw ALOT Jabs because it lowers them in so i can throw my Stiff strong Right hand, AZU is 100% correct you need to get inside a Boxer and keep him going in circular motions, NOT everything in AIKIDO work but then again not everything in Boxing works you hope that a good position of what your doing pans out, I appreciate AIKIDO more because I am able to do more and use less power yet its very powerful.
@thrasher2094
@thrasher2094 8 жыл бұрын
Love how the Aikido master blocks a jab like someone on the street isn't going to follow it up with another punch afterwards. Evading > blocking.
@foxybrown2
@foxybrown2 8 жыл бұрын
well for one no one throws a jab in street fights and number 2 you can't throw another punch if you smother it like he did.
@lisameier4101
@lisameier4101 8 жыл бұрын
+foxybrown2 what you mean know one throws jabs in street fights? I
@Kung-Tech-Fu
@Kung-Tech-Fu 9 жыл бұрын
A person has to go thru kicking range to get to punching range. Tranquilize with a appropriate kick before he gets to punching range. This makes subduing him much easier.
@Lell19862010
@Lell19862010 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see if you can perform a kotegaeshi on its punch arm, so you can then lock him to ground
@MartialArtsTutorialsFighttips
@MartialArtsTutorialsFighttips 8 жыл бұрын
this is exactly one of my points on the video i filmed title " Aikido Toxic Martial arts that sucks", for example :see the second 2.16, they used one of their own to pretend to be a boxer while praising aikido then the aikido guy request a JAB the "Boxer"(another aikido guy) throws a Cross and they still call the cross a JAB. aikido is one of the most disrespectful and unreliable martial arts ever, they don't have a clue what is a JAB or a Cross or how to deal with a Boxer.., this is very very dangerous as it creates a false sense of security, take a Boxer and put it there to see if you can do the move, that's what i called respect
@냄새꾸리꾸리한발까락
@냄새꾸리꾸리한발까락 9 жыл бұрын
I remember a fight that occured against a amateur boxer. We exchanged few strikes, and I took the advantage by grabbing his hand while he had his guard up (covering his face) and putting him in a wrist lock. Lol... his friends tried to stop us because they thought it was unfair for me to put him on a wrist lock... yet they didn't think it was wrong of him to strike me from behind when I was preoccupied with something else. I found out later that he rushed me from behind because he claimed I was giving him dirty stares throughout the evening in the bar LOL. Long story short, I accidently snapped his wrist when his friends made a move towards me. It happened quickly. I thought I was going to get jumped, and I guess I applied bit too much pressure.
@ezekielgarza1150
@ezekielgarza1150 6 жыл бұрын
boxers and aikido have similarities, first control fight by controlling angles and distances. keep distance. stop them from circling around you. then get in close grapping wrist and go for a throw.
@tintingengen5601
@tintingengen5601 9 жыл бұрын
This is a great effort. A few dilemmas - a boxer trains in a full on sparring situation over and over again. A good boxer wouldn't be after you unless you were the baddy or it was a friendly sparring situation. Making it real is rather tricky - but that not a bad effort. One thing that is also hard to train for the the adrenaline rush - which is one advantage of competitive sports aikido and with boxing. The adrenaline rush makes everything go haywire so getting used to that is important. But as I wrote - good effort. Now lets try it again with a south paw. :)
@steveboxing
@steveboxing 8 жыл бұрын
If someone threw a punch the way your boxer does (overcommiting and no snap or pullback) then never mind what you could do to him,you should see what a real boxer would do to him.
@franklinmcmahon7471
@franklinmcmahon7471 8 жыл бұрын
1. All you had to do was stand there as the guy punching you was aiming and punching about 8" to the left of your protected face. 2. Boxers do not over commit with their punches, that kaiten-nage variation wont work. 3. With that gear on you should practice it live and allow uke to choose the attack. Thats what the gear is for.
@lonnieebneter6275
@lonnieebneter6275 8 жыл бұрын
love your videos keep up the great work guys thank you
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