Bad VS Decent VS Great Belting (Vocal Technique)

[@aintnootherfan]

9:36 "so I wanna know WHO thought this was a good idea" I still stand by that lol 6:22 Shannon Wiliiams' C#5 had to be edited out due to copyright unfortunately:(

[@badabing99]

Where is Eunji?

[@garimasuhani7227]

Can you rate babymonster vocals ...on base ok their pre debut live performance and solo mission

[@killbethy]

Hey! Have you seen the video of Wendy performing for Lee Mujin Service? It sounds like she has been focusing on improving her already great vocals even more. Would you do please, please, pretty please do an analysis of it??

[@SoshiKyo]

Me toooooooo, and "that's enough" got me

[@bangbangbang8716]

​@@badabing99don't know why they don't include eunji when it comes to vocals .

[@abcdef-kf3my]

EXO main vocals vocal tone is so good to the ears. Every generation of people can listen and enjoy it.

[@almilall]

​@@abhishekmeena7215ik but what does this have to do with dimash ? we re talking about vocal tones

[@WorldifySanity]

Not just the main vocalists, Suho is also very good!

[@ninamarshiella7680]

He has the worst vocal tone as a vocalist sorry bro, and his belting technique sounds bad for most ​@@abhishekmeena7215

[@itsbritneybisch8552]

@@WorldifySanity Thanks for saying this! He's definitely improved a lot over the years, especially after his enlistment. He'd be a main vocalist in any other group. That's the power of EXO.

[@ngndnd]

and its crazy too cause DO has a deeper voice, chen has a high voice, and baekhyun is right in the middle. It was meant to be lmao

[@rachelmaddowswife8713]

Chen is such a freak of nature, I don't think he even considers A4 a high note 😂

[@taijini6312]

He said it’s actually easy for him to record high note songs 😂

[@rachelmaddowswife8713]

@@taijini6312 Later on in this same song he belts a C5 no problem

[@exollence]

RIGHT 😭high notes are LIGHT WORK for him

[@iAmKyungSoo_BabeGirl]

​@abhishekmeena7215 I don't know who's he

[@aayushgupta1265]

​@abhishekmeena7215I know he is a great singer but it's a kpop video so please don't mention him here

[@jordan_ojl]

always love seeing lily being objectively proven as a great vocalist, too many people saying that she's just screaming even though that's not the case

[@Nameless_mixes]

I think Lily’s perception by the public is similar to Demi’s. Yes, their voices can sound a bit “screamy” at times. But that’s just their natural tones and they don’t take away from how solid the both of them are as vocalists.

[@jordan_ojl]

@@Nameless_mixes oh yeah for sure, i think i’ve just seen too many hate comments discrediting her abilities and passing it off as only screaming and nothing else 😭

[@Amazingvocalsandmedia]

⁠@@Nameless_mixesyou cannot compare Demi to lily. Demi genuinely has one of the most prominent valsalva issue I have ever seen and is extremely tense and pitchy. They also have a wildly different health history than lily. Lily, on the other hand, is just very light (and tense above a certain point).

[@mingisfixon6452]

​@@Amazingvocalsandmediau said it better than I was going to 😂

[@Violetworld293]

She is definitely amazing singer of 4th gen

[@blank_line]

EXO's vocal line is honestly a standard for how good singers should be, at least

[@blank_line]

The same goes for RV's main vocals Idk, SM really does know how to pick good vocals

[@KawaiiKermit]

@@blank_linethey don’t know how to pick vocals, they just know how to PROPERLY TRAIN (in most cases). Back in the day, SM was the worst for training in terms of physical abuse trainees suffered if they didn’t improve or did something wrong, I’m talking dropping weighted balls on your torso to build core strength, running laps whilst singing if you did something wrong. Now they somewhat value the human rights of their trainees so it’s not like that anymore and they just actually focus on vocals and technique instead of most other countries who treat vocals as a side dish and only care about dance or visuals. Sm doesn’t care as much about visuals because they make all their artists get surgery before debut anyways lmao and they evenly balance dance and vocals for the trainees. This isn’t always the case though like shotaro, he’s not a very good singer by any means for sm standard but the guy can dance so they debuted him immediately and because he can dance so well, it hides the fact he’s not a good vocalist compared to other members of nct and riize. Sm just know their shit when it comes to training and if all companies trained like mamamoo a company and, we’d have kpop stars who were more than just mediocre singers

[@blank_line]

@KawaiiKermit a company can do both. Some things are just pure talent, you can't train everyone to perfection. If you listen to some of their current idols pre audition voices, it's evident that they were already great vocalists. It always goes in unexpected ways. Some may improve tremendously like Taemin, and some may never sing well despite training, just like Sehun. Anyway, sm always makes sure their groups have at least 2 good stable vocalists. And others may or may not grow in skill with time But yes, they definitely don't don't care about your looks, they can always make you the next Taeyeon clone 😂

[@jquinoa5282]

​@@KawaiiKermit why wouldn't they know how to pick vocals.. chen, baekhyun, kyuhyun and ryeowook all had very short training periods

[@AileeTheQueenofVocals]

@@blank_line lol only Wendy carrying the group vocals. aside from her there's no good vocalist in Red Velvet. Don't mention Seulgi because she's only average vocalist.

[@daradara7493]

fun fact: Seulgi actually rerecorded 28 reasons song again after she shot the Recording Behind bcuz she didn't like the output then. so the final recording that we hear in the song we stream is an entirely different recording from the clip here

[@ELmayberry]

whoa 😮 that's awesome 😊

[@serafima2]

Vocalists have good and bad days where your voice just cannot cooperate. However in Seulgi's case even in the final recording you can notice her incomplete techniques at places (regardless of the heavy editing during mixing).She definitelly have a lot more work to do to improve herself.

[@anetaomar1644]

Seulgi is underrated. Her voice is strong and beautiful, and her singing is consistent. She took the characteristics of Wendy and Joy's voices and combined them together in her singing. She is really strong, like the main voices.

[@yonyvalverde2436]

@@anetaomar1644 i love seulgi but my girls is very nasal and the higher she goes the more tight she sounds

[@anetaomar1644]

@@yonyvalverde2436 There is a vocal trainer on KZbin who spoke about her and it is not considered a defect, on the contrary. She said that Seulgi is adept at controlling her voice and controlling the nasal voice and when to use it.

[@skyhideaway]

i like that you include instances of bad belting from objectively great vocalists like solar, lily or winter. it shows that while they are still amazing vocalists, they can mess up or push their limits sometimes too.

[@kira_legran]

Yellow is not bad o_O (And Winter not great tho...)

[@skyhideaway]

@@kira_legran no, but there were some good vocalists with instances of red too. winter is a pretty good vocalist, her voice is just pitchy.

[@queenning28]

I've never heard a E5 from Winter that's not strained. Her F#5 belting is even worse. Her belting techniques are just not very good.

[@queenning28]

@@skyhideaway Winter's pitch issue is a result of her tendency to strain her voice. She's different from idols like Shuhua who just don't know the right pitch. Winter has a good sense of pitch. She knows what notes she's supposed to hit. She just can't do it sometimes, because her vocal cords are so strained and fatigued.

[@Flying-Chicken]

​@@queenning28lol ㅋㅋ

[@TeresaCamille]

Thank you for recognizing Doyoung! He is one of 4 main vocalists for NCT 127. Kpop fans always discredit NCT, but their vocals are some of the best among Kpop male groups. They never give them enough appreciation.

[@_melstay]

he does the best solo covers imo

[@jvliawo]

he has a video on vocal ranking for male idols (besides exo) and Doyoung was either #2 or #3

[@yaizaananda7293]

Isn't nct 127 only have 2 main vocalists?( Doyoung and Taeil) who is the other 2?

[@jvliawo]

@@yaizaananda7293 3rd is Xiaojun and 4th is either Jaehyun or Haechan. Daeyoung/Jaehee is also now in the NCT vocal line:

[@TeresaCamille]

Jaehyun & Haechan are main vocals for NCT 127 as well@@yaizaananda7293

[@violetception]

i really appreciate the objectivity in this video and the acknowledgement that 1) rankings aren't nuanced enough and are not a good measure of vocal skill and 2) even great vocalists have rough performances where sometimes their technique falls through. this channel has created a great, safe space for discourse and in-depth discussion of vocals, so thank you for that. sidebar: it's so nice to see all of these older clips of idols, in addition to the newer ones, that show how they aren't infallible and have grown and developed their technique over the years. singing well is something you have to consistently work towards, and this compilation is a wonderful reminder that no one is perfect but can improve if they are courageous enough to put in the effort.

[@aintnootherfan]

Thank you for these words!!😘

[@WorldifySanity]

​@@aintnootherfanI do hope you've seen D.O's cover of Rewrite the Stars with Suhyun (of AKMU). No need to react to it on YT, I just think you'd enjoy it. 😊

[@goodlilbee]

damn you can tell that joy struggled so much to hit that note. i don't know why they make idols that are not belters or cannot hit high notes have to do it in songs and performances, sometimes they just can't, doesn't make them bad singers it just is how it is

[@seungwanismyjoy5096]

For real. No offense, Joy's tone is indeed unique and colourful, but won't deny her skill still inadequate to be a belter. She actually sounds incredible already within her range. SM shouldn't pushing her to be a belter when they have zero effort to polish her basic skills first, just like SM should help Seulgi to get rid or tone down of her nasality.

[@riffgroove]

​@seungwanismyjoy5096 Being "nasal" or having "forward placement" is actuallynhelpful for a vocalist because it aids in projection. The immortal SoHyang has the exact same tone. Are you going to call her a bad singer?

[@seungwanismyjoy5096]

@@riffgroove Well certainly not coz I'm not the one who typed the word lol, stop twisting it I'm not the akgae you think I am.

[@Bluetorch_]

Putting great against bad belting makes you realize the difference in vocals, especially for casual listeners such as myself. I've always thought that whenever I see clips of IU's Good Day, it sounds strained, and this video really puts it into perspective. Thank you!

[@journeykaye]

Finally someone says it, I always hear people praise her for that and attempt that note, but I’m always like…😧

[@solitelly]

I agree. I don't get why people are so impressed just because she was able to prolong the note, doesn't mean she sounded well and did great at it.

[@hijaraharjo9879]

same thought. It has always sounded strained since then but due to how high n ling the note is, people seem to not care

[@Bluetorch_]

@@hijaraharjo9879 I've now heard that the high notes started off as a joke and they ended up keeping it in the song. Not sure how credible that information is

[@SoshiKyo]

So do I!!!!

[@yoonalimlimlim9130]

Call me old hag but 2nd gen main vocalists are insane. Could you make 2nd vocal ranking please 🥺

[@meesterboo]

YES!!! omg i would kill for a 2nd gen ranking, that was when i got into kpop as a wee lass 😭😭

[@M_ri_m]

No gen compares to 2nd gen. ❤

[@akinator_]

Yessss!!!

[@oosiee7550]

We know SM gonna rule again with K.R.Y there. 💙

[@liglotanana]

Park bom out haha

[@Natomac]

SM main vocals are just God Tier. Hyolyn is so nice to hear too

[@meinorha9370]

I have no understanding of vocal technique, but I have always loved when someone belts out a big vocal with the feeling like the sound could expand forever. This is also why I got into k-pop, Chen belted out a vocal like that and I fell into a rabbit hole. I also love how you have included many examples from the same singers, both good and bad, showing everyone can sometimes fumble yet also practise and improve - this is probably the best way to do a vocal ranking video!

[@firozaashravee8707]

I am a Carat and I would like to thank you for noticing and appreciating DK and Seungkwan's vocal. Seeing them in your video where you explain their skills in detail, bring me joy. You have earned yourself a subscriber. Keep up the good work!

[@soona22573]

I'm not even a Carat and I was HAPPY to see them

[@Verowinday777]

The only decent male vocalists from HYBE top 4th groups.

[@-_-3776]

nope they are mid af overhyped awful vocals

[@Verowinday777]

@@-_-3776 well since you claimed that Jungkook is decent at best in another reply section,if Jungkook can get a pass in vocal then Seungkwan and DK can get a one for sure too.

[@-_-3776]

@@Verowinday777 being decent doesn't mean they sound good including jongkook BEING DECENT has it's limits

[@eshamondal4800]

Kyungsoo's voice tone he's vocals he's adlibs. It's so sad that gp is taking interest in him after a decade just because he does less high notes

[@flufflyunicorn8514]

Perdona pero que significa gp?

[@ELmayberry]

​@@flufflyunicorn8514 GP ( General public) 😊

[@flufflyunicorn8514]

@@ELmayberry Gracias! ❤️

[@ELmayberry]

@@flufflyunicorn8514 de nada 😁

[@ngndnd]

wait wdym that theyre taking a notice in him because he does less high notes? that doesnt make sense

[@NotAnotherAccount735]

Finally, someone commented on that IU moment. I love IU but she really struggles there, like it is uncomfortable to hear.

[@qianyue.c]

i know nothing about vocals but i genuinely thought that IU moment was so impressive and well done 😭

[@laurendailey3053]

​@@qianyue.csame

[@seungwanismyjoy5096]

Indeed.

[@audrayliar7480]

I'm not sure if it's true or just rumors but I once read that the note was originally supposed to be lower and she did it like this for a joke but then someone (producer or something) said she should keep doing like this and she always regretted that she had joked around bc now she had to keep doing it 😅

[@iufanboy5970]

​@qianyue.c she was really young back then, she improved now but her style of singing still isnt really suited for belting high notes like that so it s still impressive she does it anyway

[@michellebesera5402]

There's something about Exo's main vocals; every time they open their mouths, you automatically feel nostalgia, even if it's the first time you've heard the song.

[@WorldifySanity]

Suho too!!

[@DenallieDNa]

​@@WorldifySanityI'm his die hard fan, but sometimes Suho-nim strains and too hard to himself But he is definitely better each year and improved a lot since debut

[@4eyesinthecorner399]

I appreciate you including multiple clips of some of the same singers with different notes to show that even great singers can have off notes sometimes - whether that be just due to their condition at the time, or the song being out of their range, etc.

[@faiththomas6137]

I appreciate the use of top tier vocalists having not so great belting technique. it really shows how difficult it is and how easy it is to lose structure and precision if not completely focused.

[@kimdoogleouo4521]

Taeyeon being all over the green category 💚

[@DenallieDNa]

King Taeyeon for reasons 😂😂

[@kiyanaikebana2356]

9:04 not everytime 😅

[@BuzzZZzzYYYY]

@@kiyanaikebana2356taeyeon actually doesnt have that high of a range so it makes sense

[@user-tr7wq9kp1r]

ngl,SM is the vocal powerhouse

[@dncmy]

Thank you for recognizing DK and Seungkwan, main vocalists of SEVENTEEN. Huhu... They really deserve it.

[@kpoppiest]

Man Hyolyn's charisma and vocals are so powerful. Same goes for Taeyeon. No wonder she stays relevant as a solo singer and is among the most popular ones too in Korea

[@dks729]

fact: companies would die to have a main vocal line like exo

[@imuimu-en2jh]

are you alright?

[@dks729]

sda chin yu shagad bgan

[@Nonofyobusiness-ppl]

Are you?​@@imuimu-en2jh

[@absolutelynotellen]

Kyungsoo always got the best RnB type of vocal to me. It's just so hot and melting in my ears like a chocolate. 🤭💓

[@mellisalake7490]

There's something about Doyoung's voice that brings me up to heaven.

[@exollence]

loved the different range of vocalists you used as examples! also love that you keep using exo's hear me out mv clips for your intro/outro segments 😊

[@daniellemeytal3608]

I was shocked to see D.O in the "Decent" category, he is a very talented singer with amazing abilities and then I saw Chen in the "Good" category and understood why.. It's hard to beat Chen

[@teatimewiththeia]

Please go back to the beginning of the video. Everything was clearly explained. D.O got a "decent" for this specific performance and note and wasn't put into any category or tier. People can have bad days, can make mistakes and can improve. At the beginning of the video it was said that tier rankings are stupid for a reason.

[@northrnstar]

chen is just built different tbh. i swear this man sounds like he came out of the womb belting

[@daniellemeytal3608]

@@teatimewiththeia Yeah I know. It also compares to the other guys on the same note. I mean it's just rare to find him as a decent person but like you said every singer has a bad day. And also because of the comparison with Chen.

[@daniellemeytal3608]

@@northrnstar yes , he always blows my mind!!!

[@rfmmike6096]

It has nothing to do with beating each other it’s just examples with clips there’s other clips were d.o did that same exact line in love me right that’d be classified as great. You could find clips of all 3 exo main vocalists where their belting would be in the red category it’s all relative to the example used

[@zee0905_]

Not surprised to see Red Velvet, Mamamoo, Seventeen and Gfriend in here, these groups have the best vocals in 3rd gen !

[@HanaSpoop]

I love Sserafim but they really are proof that agencies are trading talent for visuals. HYBE obviously has the resources for proper vocal training, no idea why Kazuha Sakura and Eunchae were allowed to debut with such bad vocals.

[@Lixxies_brownie]

Tbh it’s a thing with Hybe vocals the only idol that Carries Hybe vocals is jk I’m not including seventeen or fromis because they weren’t trained by Hybe vocalists like heesung and taehyung have some of the best vocal tones but their technique is gonna butcher it it’s honestly sad because Hybe has some of the worst vocalists and yet people praise them so much

[@fullsunn_kissed]

i will always stand by doyoung's vocals. he genuinely sounds like an angel sent down from the heavens. doyoung is defo my fav vocalist in nct

[@_zzzakiya]

This brings to light how priorities have changed over times. Like literally, nowadays kpop is more focused on visuals and looks rather than actual talent. The best female ranges we have seen in this video stops at 2nd and third gen at most. Nmixx is still capable of breaking these walls. Hope we get the original kpop back

[@nekokurokawa6684]

I always love knowing Mamamoo has a place in your videos

[@feat.onewoo]

Ailee is just amazing man!! Probably the best vocalist in Kpop. Surprises me everytime even though ik how good she is.

[@kjdpolaris-be7pk]

chen vocal technique is out of this world so proud of him

[@Tayloorr_LM4]

3.gen vocal Queen red velvet and mamamoo 4.gen vocal Queen nmixx and aespa

[@chhanchhani5540]

LUNA is such an underrated vocalist, hope she gets more recognition and project in the future

[@ilive4anime.]

Wouldn't say she underrated. Ppl just don't pay attention to 2nd gen anymore. Tis sad

[@matsuokei]

I like how this video shows that good vocalists may/will make poor vocal decisions, which lead to unpleasant delivery, and that's okay. As vocalists, we're never at our 100% all of the time - and that's perfectly okay. We all have that performance we are proud of, just as we have that one performance that haunts us at night. These mistakes might be due to some breathing miscalculation or the fact that the development of that register/proper technique is still in progress.

[@saravanoppen8372]

The Greatest female Main vocalists will mostly be found in 2nd Gen. So happy to see Luna!

[@goldenhourss]

i love kyungsoo’s voice. he has great technique and such a nice timbre as well. i love listening to his vocal performances especially tell me what is love❤

[@maindancerjhs1020]

I have been obsessed with Wendy’s recently. She is crazy good

[@rebeccad6000]

I have to say, for D. O, his vocal runs are a very good key strength in his range and it makes one of the best bridges in every EXO song. It's not emotional w/out D. O. He also happens to be my ultimate bias, too and Sehun is beyond him when it comes to my ultimates. If there was an emotional bridge with D. O's runs and Sehun soft and sophisticated raps, that would just give me chills all over.

[@camileeduck1454]

The invu cover was absolutely painful to watch. Singers should steer clear of taeyeon’s songs if they’re not skilled enough

[@bbi2.052]

Which one?

[@bbi2.052]

Nvm 🧍🏾‍♀️

[@prasathgj]

Jongho truly one of the top ones Not only is he talented, he also a very full and nice tone Doesn't sound squeaky, pitchy or thin but actually buttery smooth❤

[@thoseriseofkingdomsadswith972]

4:32 This is REALLY important. A bad, good, and amazing note can come from the same singer singing the same note in the same song. Being a good vocalist is a matter of consistency rather than cherry-picked moments, and people who take these rankings without knowing/acknowledging so are misinterpreting the point. These are single note comparisons--a single note sung at a specific performance, not a vocal ranking. Is there a chance that the 'great' notes are sung by better vocalists? Yes. Is it always the case? No.

[@lulashepard3253]

Yep, that’s what I was about to write. Nobody’s perfect, and not every note is going to be hit perfectly in a performance. Ailee and Doyoung are two of the best singers around, and I’ve heard her sound shrill and him hit a clunker or two. I will say that this video helped me better understand how good support goes a long way.

[@jassibella5415]

Hyolyn's vocals just give me goosbumps everytime it nice to still see her being included in these list because her vocals have improved over the years. I also love to see idols vocals improve over the years.

[@soona22573]

Chen A4, Hyolyn Bb4, Luna B4, Wendy C5, Taeyeon C#5, Minkyung & Ailee E5, my favoriet notes from this video.

[@soona22573]

Also I like how Taeyeon looked like she knew it wasn't her best E5 despite how fans were cheering for her xD

[@yoonalimlimlim9130]

Taeyeon can easily on top of 3rd and 4th gen vocalists, but can you imagine she can rank lower if you compare with other 2nd gen fellows, imagine vocal ranking video of luna, lina, hyolin, Taeyeon, davichi, eunji, etc. Could you make a video of 2nd gen vocalists, male and female could be better, please 🥺

[@yoonalimlimlim9130]

Vocal analysis like this is okay (so so much) tho

[@M_ri_m]

Taeyeon has a limited octaves but that hasn't stopped her from killing it ❤

[@sushiirolll]

honestly that’s what i loved about 2nd gen the most! they focused so so much more on vocals… nowadays it’s a visual competition, as long as you have a pretty face that’s all you need to become a kpop idol…. literally 80% of new groups need more vocal training

[@egaselanno5337]

She can't beat Wendy😅

[@M_ri_m]

@@egaselanno5337 Wendy lacks what makes Taeyeon superior and Taeyeon lacks what makes Wendy superior. So...

[@БогданЗелинский-ю9з]

Lina is one of the best belters in kpop, if not the best, fight me.

[@abominablyawsm]

All the members of CJSH. They had actually too many powerhouse vocalists. They were a vocal assault. Just a brick wall of vocal talent slamming into you every song. All four of them are insanely good.

[@tomorrowneverknows9860]

​@@abominablyawsm"Vocal assault" 😂 I completely agree.

[@bruh.1191]

went into kpop with high expectations because the first group i ever stanned was exo, nobody really has met the standards set by exo (for me) other than like shinee and other very few groups 😭😭

[@WorldifySanity]

D.O. does have bad days but when he's on, he is ON POINT. I've noticed that he usually only **occasionally** falters when transitioning from a relatively high note (high in his range) to an even higher note (that is also in his range, which he can belt just fine otherwise). It's something he could work on, for sure. ❤

[@Delsddirori]

This is why I became SM stan, their vocals are top tier!

[@DenallieDNa]

My mom too She refused other company "Not a good singers" she said 😂

[@DA_Ald]

The C5 note of Haewon is so pleasant to hear it tickles my ears it’s so nice

[@batatagumball5549]

I would enjoy if you included Shinee vocal line in this video, because they are some of my favorite vocalists to listen to, but it would be interesting to know which way you would qualify some of their belts

[@Modeoheims]

Yeah I don’t often see shinee or super junior in his videos which is a shame.

[@yokhawanha]

I think the video creator focusing on 3rd Gen group and up.

[@abominablyawsm]

Shinee... vocal line? You mean Shinee minus Minho? Or? I mean, Shinee IS a vocal line.

[@Purple_million90]

@@abominablyawsm minho is the weakest among SHINee members. He's the only one who cant support any notes though but he's still an okay vocalist

[@Touritaly17]

I knew for a fact EXO, SVT and NCT would not be on the Bad belting coz they have crazy good main vocals.. 3rd gen at its best!!!

[@weaehe2355]

The way doyoung is here i really appreciate it he is one of the best but yet underrated vocalists 🥺💗

[@trinhvietanh9521]

I think we also need to take into account that sometime vocal is more about expressing your emotions than 100% technic. Like in Hwasa case, sometime she crack her voice on purpose so that she can express the broken or passionate feeling of the song and in those cases it sound so good.

[@anny8720]

True tho really emotional bits can come from good technique too, Ailee's example in 9:45 was gorgeous and hit you in the feels

[@ringdingdisaster]

i REFUSE to believe jongdae isn't actually an angel descended from heaven cs??? HOW???

[@esmanur.x]

I want to see more of EXID's Solji in your videos. Her vocals are so good

[@sophiaisabelle027]

We appreciate your insights. Keep working hard.

[@carlarojas1691]

I still can't get over DAVICHI, the company literally took the best vocalists of the 2nd generation and put them together in a group, amazing.

[@eliquos]

WAIT OMG TY I FORGOT THEY EXISTED I'VE BEEN TRYING TO REMEMBER THEIR NAME TYSM OMG

[@masonjayryder5988]

I live for Winter's and Taeyeon's belts. Mother and Daughter.

[@eulalia3468]

Winter is not even in half of taeyeon's talents, maybe Ningning but winter? Seriously 😂

[@allykelly]

​@@eulalia3468kinda irrelevant but agreed

[@BigSM_hater_pinkblood]

She will learn , when she come to taeyeon age ​@@eulalia3468

[@BakaKageyamaBaka]

Kihyun from MonstaX & DK, Seunghwan from Seventeen are just....vocal goals!

[@coenffl4099]

Frrrr, someone who noticed Kihyun!

[@bungakrst]

kihyun is an amazing vocalist!

[@JangMun00]

Seungkwan* ❤

[@Talent_more_than_popularity]

I love Lily's voice so much. Who says that Lily screams and does not sing, just heard a couple of Nmixx songs, she can perform completely different genres. In many covers, she has a very soft and at the same time clear voice. For me, she has the cleanest vocals, after the Pcycho cover, for me she is head and shoulders above the original (my opinion)

[@inplane9970]

Lily has one of the best voice projections of 4th gen, which makes her stand out in a good way. When she sings, you can definitively tell its her voice.

[@gail1015]

Thank you for appreciating NCT Doyoung. He works hard and deserves to have his efforts recognized.

[@itsbritneybisch8552]

Now THIS IS A BRAVE, UNBIASED CHANNEL! Most "vocal coaches" on KZbin are terrified of calling out bad vocal techniques, especially done by idols from *certain* groups. Also, as DO was coming out of their cardio workout of a choreography prior to that belt, I'm going to give him a huge pass. Overall, notice how the idols from most of the popular groups now can barely carry a note. Just goes to show that popularity doesn't necessarily mean quality, and KPOP is more about popularity.

[@toriwenzel2758]

I agree with you, this account is unbiased

[@elly1433]

love that you included the same artists showing different levels - it can be affected by so many things, and having one badly placed belt doesn't mean you can't also turn around and do it amazingly the next time

[@kagomekirari25]

I appreciate seeing the same person with performances represented at different levels of success! Not like "dk is always a green level belter, period" instead, it's more nuanced

[@kookiekxk9817]

It's amazing; whenever the red came on I would flinch on how much it hurt to hear those notes and when the greens would come on I would even get goosebumps. Shows what a diff the good vs the bad techniques make in the listening experience of the song

[@cami_triz83]

Same hahahah For me it's when they sound too throaty i guess? When it sounds like they positioned the note in their throat rather than in their mouth. It makes them sound pitchy as hell, and it creates this... dissonance or something? Idk the right term for it

[@lincolneyar8269]

Love to see new faces here. Davichi, Yuju, Shannon, Tiffany. Looking forward to the next hopefully with Seohyun and Son Seung Yeon.

[@Cryforme-]

Karina & Winter ATE in those clips they appeared in this video 😍

[@Shaikhyahya1102]

Heyy hi

[@Cryforme-]

​@@Shaikhyahya1102 hi

[@melumeze8264]

No

[@k-popthings1638]

Joy has improved so much since debut ❤

[@maxie_is_well5521]

She has but her style constricts her from belting properly. That high note in chill kill was just a C and she really struggled. All other aspects of her voice have improved greatly. Her chest voice and head voice are some of the best in the group

[@poptopics1772]

@@maxie_is_well5521It was because the high note was supposed to be sung like that on a close vowel not an open one, however she did struggle with it cause it’s not necessarily the easiest technique specially if she doesn’t have any experience in it.

[@jeelee3096]

Not really. She's so nasal and dodges notes. Her voice tone is her biggest strength

[@agalivillalbaavila598]

She has improved, but that note was so strained it was hard to listen to, I believe idols must have some challenges to improve their voices, but not as hard, cause they can damage their voices

[@emmanuelaa8671]

​@@jeelee3096she is not nasal and sometimes si better to not sing a note if you don't feel confortable doing it or your condición si not the Best so you don't damage your chords

[@aripuspa]

I love how you give bad-decent-good for every note(?) so normal people like me can immediately tell the difference. Thank you!

[@scabirene4346]

chen and taeyeon are just insane

[@armysone001]

Taeyeon's Hush Hush is sooo iconic!!!

[@mabby9051]

I live for SVT appreciation

[@mingyuisthemosthandsomekpopido]

why you did not include bb4 or b4 notes among male idols. there's still few male idols who can hit that notes with resonated. a4 is not the highest supported note that can do by kpop male idols.

[@ITzyaLLinUS21]

I never heard any male kpop idols that can sustain bb4 with support & resonate not to mention b4 note. Those notes are hard for a male kpop idol since it's for soprano's range i think

[@ITzyaLLinUS21]

Can u tell the names of these 'idols' that u were talking about?

[@mingyuisthemosthandsomekpopido]

@@ITzyaLLinUS21 Kyuhyun, Ryeowook and Sandeul can resonate up to b4. Kyungsoo up to bb4. It seems that you are not aware to 2nd gen idols. Most of the strongest vocalists are from 2nd gen.

[@mingyuisthemosthandsomekpopido]

@@ITzyaLLinUS21 You should check Kyuhyun, Ryeowook and Sandeul vocal compilations on YT. bb4 and b4 notes are very easy to them.

[@ITzyaLLinUS21]

@@mingyuisthemosthandsomekpopido oh wow really? i will check them. But why kpop stans never mentioned them.

[@ae-ribae6426]

It's great to see Luna included. She's absolutely amazing, yet overlooked.

[@changyg]

Why u didn't include Kyuhyun from Super Junior, that guy's belting notes literally drowning every male idols existence out there.

[@changyg]

watching his vocal compilation on YT made me realize why that man is claimed to be the strongest idol vocalist in kpop. Take note bb4/b4 note are so easy to him 💀

[@ITzyaLLinUS21]

If he does that, then the male idols here who are in the great belting category will become weak. You said BB4 and BB4 are easy notes for him; these male idols never achieve that note without being able to support it.

[@triplej8666]

only Taemin, Sandeul, Ryeowook, Kyuhyun have ever been able to consistently support B4 at a point in their careers@@ITzyaLLinUS21

[@sakshitomar9553]

excellent on CHEN GOT ME

[@Amanda-ik1wv]

Man, the ONLY one I'd change is Kihyun from Monsta X being categorized from decent to great. He belts with full control of his vibrato (adding or removing whenever), his jaw is relaxed, great mouth shape, there isn't any force or strain. I think he's an even better belter than Seungkwan.

[@jaycubayo]

Real spill

[@mariliacordeiro4810]

this is a great video to show how artists are not machines. most of the "bad" notes here were performed live while dancing, while the good notes were mostly in studio, pre-edited or the song along without dance moves. some artists had both bad and good examples.

[@soundingitoutasmr]

Need more vids where you do 2nd gen vocalists! Love the "best of 2nd gen" on Luna's perf!

[@halane4790]

I appreciate how some of them appeared multiple times to different performance levels. Helps to establish that even good singers have better and worse days.

[@pinkypumpkins]

Was that Lina from The Grace??? I hope he makes an analysis one day of 2nd gen idols with The Grace and DBSK in the list. The vocal talent of that gen with Daesung, Jonghyun, Yoseob, Sungkyu, etc...

[@fivestarmichelin_]

Hyolin is sooooo underrated as a vocalist. 😭

[@MarkLeeZEPETOOFFICIAL]

Kang Hyewon too..

[@kangsoju6552]

she used to be one of the very well-known vocalists in kpop and really popular when sistar was at the peak of their career, even her osts were hits. she started declining when the new gen era started and her solo wasn't promoted well by her company.

[@MarkLeeZEPETOOFFICIAL]

@@kangsoju6552 imo she started declining after Dally..

[@thoseriseofkingdomsadswith972]

Not really. When you think Hyolyn you think vocals first. Everyone knows her as a top tier vocalist. I think her music is just not everyone's type and not general public friendly (which was Sistars entire thing back then btw.)

[@MarkLeeZEPETOOFFICIAL]

@@thoseriseofkingdomsadswith972 i agree with this

[@prajakta8280]

Well why do some people in comment section taking this as a hate video or something? Title of the video said its comparison of belting technique, this person said its a comparison and the video did exactly that. You got to watch exactly what was advertised. We also see some artist being examples in all three categories. Its not Targeted hate towards anyone. Also, artists are humans too so they cant be perfect everytime and give the EXACt same performance for nth time so its understandable that there might be errors or changes sometimes and it doesn't take away their talent. So if you are fuming at this then grow up guys

[@yaminiwtf4034]

svt dk and suengkwan always serving vocals ✨🩷

[@kiriel09]

I'm glad you pointed out that the high note in Symphony is a closed vowel. It's a really difficult chorus and Lily nailed it, although there's some pitch correction in the performance video. She's my pick for the next-gen Ailee!

[@EmviloriamE]

Lina's D5 live in my head rent free.

[@akarimingliminjee]

Can't deny them SM vocals. Every group be slaying.

[@jimmycroni]

I love that high note of Harmon and then Sullyoon coming in without that tone. That short clip gives me so much emotions

[@anagabriella4830]

3:15 doyoung's voice is amazing, sad that he's underrated

[@happinessisonlyrealwhensha8870]

Haewon and lily are such an amazing vocalists

[@xryvxctyrsyndry]

Yeah fr

[@miateez008]

As a atiny seeing jongho is so pretty,thank you,he's keep practicing and improving more with the days,he said to atiny he's trying to have a best technique,thank tou for putting jongho here❤

[@user-ts3ys5td4c]

Seventeen really the only good vocalist bg in hybe 😭

[@ramitapatel1168]

That too because they were not hybe trainers. Apart from them BTS are decent singers and better dancer. 5th gen are just faces

[@R0VERKAI]

I wish it was longer. Thank you❤

[@kathrynvincent1563]

The way I end up understanding good technique is if I imitate the singer’s tone, I tend to have better notes (mostly with DK and smooth vocal styles). It’s not full proof by any means and really depends on your voice type, but that’s my experience

[@tuni16tuni]

Woow the clip of Solar at 4:38 gave me goosebumps! does anyone know where its from?

[@DIEXM0r]

IMAGE(5:52am) - Solar

[@tuni16tuni]

Thanks! @@DIEXM0r