AIR SUPERIORITY DOGFIGHT | Eurofighter Typhoon Vs F-22 Raptor | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@fmj1729]

P38 differential thrust. Would be great to watch that

[@rohangangan8327]

Please make a video on Su 30MKI vs the F22 , Dogfight and BVRAAM

[@ChocotacoFan]

please do Su33 vs F/A18 super hornet or F35 lightning II

[@davidmckenzie6505]

Man! I wish you can have a F-22 vs J-20

[@MississippiKid96]

F22 vs mig 31 BVR

[@PatrickCarricoKY]

Now we know. Growling Sidewinder cannot defeat a UFO in a guns-only fight.

[@clayblaze1327]

Now we just need an actual ufo to go up against the raptor😂

[@inorite4553]

Imagine had the F-22 gone back to WWII instead of the Tomcat in The Final Countdown. Pilots then would have believed the Raptor to be a UFO.

[@Anarchy_420]

Now let's see GS in The new Grinnelli F-22 Raptor! Lol "UFO" VS F-15STOL/MTD & SU-30MKI at same time guns only Dogfight!👍

[@lars2748]

@@inorite4553 imagine the poor polish air force against the luftwaffe…

[@musaratjahan7954]

@@clayblaze1327 it'll be the same as this raptor vs the eurofighter except the raptor would be in the eurofighter's position

[@darrylsmith7871]

That first kill was brutal. Looks like the airshow "helicopter turn" has a real application in combat.

[@hound83]

And most hits ever in one pass...... :D

[@eugenemccary4748]

That nose authority was just nuts… “oh he’s pointing the nose… oh he’s still pointing HIS NOSE!”

[@slateman_8490]

What is this RIP

[@MidnightSlayz]

@@eugenemccary4748 Nice Last Words

[@BlackMasterRoshi]

@@eugenemccary4748 Yeah I honestly thought he had it as much as he did right to the last second. Then I realized what a monster the F-22 is.

[@heathb4319]

A wise and great pilot once said... "That is just an F22 doing F22 things" :))

[@edwardking186]

You should see the Grinelli F-22 doing Raptor things.

[@davidskr4924]

@@DefinitelyNotEmma Thats highly exaggerated. But yeah they were able to get some kills of Raptor, but in verry specific scenario,

[@exorrre3917]

@@DefinitelyNotEmma It's the pilot, not the plane

[@CrayonEater255]

@@DefinitelyNotEmma Well the final results were 4-5 in favor of the raptor, the original post (of the video) said this

[@Livinghighandwise]

@@DefinitelyNotEmma Get your facts right son. It was 5 to 4 in favor of the Raptor in dog fighting (yes, closer than we would all expect). In BVR, it was 6-0 in favor of the Raptor.

[@gerretoutdoors3710]

"i dont think he can get a nicer kill than that" F-22 : And i took that personally

[@davidemartorana4708]

Can we just take a second and appreciate how good these two fighters look?

[@fade812]

No, Delta Wing ugly except Saab J35

[@totallynotyouhehe2558]

Gotta love the euro

[@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM]

@@fade812 : OK Ray Charles 😎

[@andrewrogers3067]

DCS has the best aircraft models

[@Miles26545]

@@fade812 won’t

[@federico339]

2:45 when you suddenly realise you are piloting the F-22 and physics are merely a suggestion

[@errorabortretry3694]

And fair fights are for suckers.

[@jayglier]

@@errorabortretry3694 if you aren't fighting dirty you aren't doing it right

[@llaammeerr2506]

We follow the laws of aerodynamics in this household

[@jayglier]

@@llaammeerr2506 explain bee's...

[@swordmonkey6635]

@@jayglier They finally figured that one out. The pattern of rotation the bee's wings move in allow for a crazy amount of lift and maneuverability. It wasn't until slow-motion video and computer simulations that scientists could work it out. But science now understands how bumblebees can fly. lol

[@timsullivan4566]

Have never before seen such a perfect full-length fuselage strafe as that Round 1 kill - like a saw-mill blade on a log! LOL!

[@darrylsmith7871]

"For my next magic trick, I will saw a Typhoon in half...lengthwise!"

[@timsullivan4566]

@@darrylsmith7871 THAT is the analogy I was looking for...! ;-)

[@Ganiscol]

I was wondering why he did not invert the plane and dive under his nose when he realized thats not good whats coming...

[@Pman353]

When ever the words “ oh what is this” is spoken when in an F-22 fight, death always follows😂

[@Maxthepro1012]

Lol

[@TechnoMinarchistBall]

You should do squads vs squads. One of the reasons vector thrust was abandoned in jets going forward (F-35 etc) is because you lose all of your momentum in the process, which leaves you vulnerable to being enaged by anyone you're not chasing. I'd like to see how a squad of F-22s would fare against a squad of F-35s, or Eurofighters etc.

[@mantisushi]

I think how a pair of raptors fighting a squad of literally anything in red flag shows why this is pointless, now 2v1? That'd be interesting

[@TechnoMinarchistBall]

@@mantisushi I tried responding to you but I keep getting shadowed. No idea why. So here's the short of it:

[@TechnoMinarchistBall]

@@mantisushi These 1v1s are more pointless as they are all decided by an ability that has no real utility in a real setting (squad on squad). (Part 1, trying to figure out what's causing the shadow).

[@TechnoMinarchistBall]

@@mantisushi In a real setting all of this constant vector thrusting would end up with the raptors being shot out of the sky by their targets wingmen (if they are dogfighting). (Part 2)

[@mantisushi]

@@TechnoMinarchistBall I get what you're saying, but this happens at red flag all the time and the raptors almost never lose. Against anything.

[@knowa2911]

“He’s 40° off there’s no way he’ll be able to pull me in.” F-22: *proceeds to rip off your wing*

[@KalvyNoodle]

The Raptor moves like a god-damn UFO.

[@arctu75]

It probably is a UFO in DCS. Both the EF and the F-22 are mods and i highly doubt that the modders have access to documents describing the flight characteristics of either in detail.

[@heathb4319]

That it does. I also like to tell people it is the Drift King of the sky. That thing is going one direction while sliding another direction while looking like it is going another.

[@drunknnirish]

@@DefinitelyNotEmma Then it breaks down before launch

[@justintime41776]

@@DefinitelyNotEmma do they have tug jets fly around with them like their Navy has tug boats?

[@edwardking186]

@@heathb4319 Drift King of the Sky! I like that! Never heard that one.

[@texasknight5175]

That first kill was EPIC.

[@edwardking186]

BRO!!! IKR!!! Probably the coolest gun kill we will ever see in DCS!

[@hunterfly6658]

The kill him in outside one of the side one from the top and want to ride to left😂

[@MattH-wg7ou]

Stitched him up good and proper!

[@paulyb6458]

That first kill - you hear about WW2 pilots speak of "walking " their fire along an airframe and THAT was the perfect example

[@swordmonkey6635]

Yeah and the F22 did it three times. Along the side of the fuselage from nose to tail. Then from the top of the fuselage nose to tail. Then from wingtip to wingtip. Incredible.

[@floatingcereal4874]

That first kill was like he was trying to peel the top off that Eurofighter.

[@SeanTope]

😅😅😅

[@ethanthornton9082]

like a sardine can LMAO

[@Lukecure]

In the first three rounds he cut your plane in half across each axis, yaw, roll, and pitch. That was kind of awesome. 😂

[@BeingFireRetardant]

Noticed that too.

[@_d3642]

So intense yet frustrating, I'm almost sweating watching GS avoiding the nose. This is impressive.

[@namelesscrow9351]

GS: Ight we're gonna go- Shotgun: Nah.

[@BlackMasterRoshi]

I don't think I've ever seen you go quite so thoroughly from "I've got this" to absolute overkill as that first kill. Crazy thrust on that F-22.

[@AzStealthArea]

20mm to the face 2 out of 4!! That was brutal dude ;)

[@eriveragt]

That first kill was the most savage thing I’ve ever seen.

[@CombatMedic00]

That first engagement haha "What are you doing, Step-F-22?" Brrrr

[@slickninjadude9165]

And that's why I love the F22 :) I was so glad to hear that shotgun was piloting the F22, because I feel like their are a lot of people who fly the F22 but just aren't as familiar with it so it was nice to see an experience pilot dogfight another experience pilot. Great video!

[@waraiotoko738]

Wow, that first round kill was the most accurate guns shot I've seen in DCS. Perfectly aligned running down the length of the Eurofighter.

[@maxboskeljon6440]

When you mentioned your sub count i got so confused and then i looked. 375k??? I though you had like a million man. You definitely deserve it!!

[@VagabondTexan]

I am going to put forth a motion to rename Shotgun to "Headhunter". Holy hell those first two kills were brutal.

[@salutarydreams520]

Intense fight! Would love to see Eurofighter vs F-15

[@localbod]

Your man Shotgun certainly knows how to fly and fight in the F-22.

[@hirumaryuei]

First kill was crazy. Mad props to Shotgun for great control over the rudder pedals to line that up.

[@skatman3278]

Thoughts: Won't removing the missiles make it harder for the Typhoon given it has helmet-mounted sights? Does differential thrust make a big difference in the Typhoon given the engines are so close together?

[@subwayak]

The differential thrust doesn’t do a thing, and it’s quite frankly getting a little silly by now. It may have it’s place in an F-14 in some very select situations, but that’s about it.

[@LevSeven_]

@@subwayak nah it definitely has an effect, you do realize just how much more power an afterburner does compared to a regular engine, right?

[@cancelanime1507]

The F-22 also has engines that are close together

[@GTChucker86]

@@subwayak You’re underestimating how much thrust engines make at afterburner. Close together or offset differential thrust has a significant effect

[@skatman3278]

@@cancelanime1507 OK?

[@formallyknownasj.a.2074]

It’s not very often when GS goes 0-4, but when he does…. He makes it look good. The Raptor definitely put some work in this fight. Good shit Brotha.

[@tastywaves6043]

That first kill was what you would call "crossing the tee".

[@Henry-mk9dn]

Still waiting on a demonstration of differential thrust in an f-16.

[@223556762308]

There was a split second where the F22 just had enough in that first fight

[@OrionSeas]

3:00 that was incredible. It's like he just... Stopped, and waited for you to pass.

[@redssracer4153]

5:04 That Eurofighter-size gap in the F-22's tracer stream, that was nice!!👍👍😁

[@severian_matachin]

That first kill was totally sick - - - - Ok that second kill exhibited some pretty impressive gunnery too

[@texasknight5175]

The first two kills left very messy cockpits in the Eurofighter...

[@saintmobius5348]

A good scenario would be a ‘scramble’ - 50 miles, enemy has the height and speed advantage which puts you immediately on the back foot. Would be an exceptionally difficult scenario if you did this for your bandit unknown style of fights. You could also do this as a two ship formation and intercept strike packages from destroying SAM sites or attacking a base if you fancy the set up.

[@gfarrell80]

3:05 woof, that is a lit up Eurofighter. Brutal, two pilot kills in a row.

[@mrsheev9131]

Shotgun in the Raptor is something else, man. Very rare for GS to go 0-4, even if he's flying an inferior aircraft. Great video and excellent flying from both GS and Shotgun!

[@onegg04]

damn brah If that Raptor shot arrows instead of cannon rounds you'd be a pincushion

[@magiscichoam]

The F-22 air combat maneuver and gun shot (in Round 2) is a thing of exquisite nicety; literally an epic “Bitch” slap of staggering awesomeness.

[@princegaming1317]

I love how he just stopped and waited for the Eurofighter to cross the nose

[@michaelold6695]

You can hear the frustration in Growling Sidewinder's voice

[@phillm156]

You survived 2 battle! Yay🎉

[@AscenderPrime]

That F-22 side strafed into your DM's. brrrt

[@donaldcornley9963]

Impressive shooting, the 22 really stitched the euro front to rear.

[@JAEUFM]

I swear at times that Raptor was sitting there in the air in a 'no lift' attitude, and just does not fall out of the sky. [Magic I think?]

[@Eleanor_Ch]

Those shot downs make me think of a quote: "No kill like overkill."

[@ShawnHinck]

Better than underdead!

[@popcornsaidfu8757]

5:39 this is why I tune in every day!

[@JessidGallardo]

You should do the US vs Russia thing again but with the rule that you can't choose the same jet twice so it's more interesting. Do like 5 or 6 rounds so you can have different engagements. Also make it bandit unknown so you have to choose your jet carefully.

[@andrewrogers3067]

He needs to do this already…

[@iuploadrandomthings7783]

bro posted this so many times give this dude attention i want this aswell

[@BlackMasterRoshi]

cool idea

[@Jay2Civil]

lol u should start counting the days that u request this

[@MikadoRC]

The F-22 manouvering capabilities are mindblowing, it seems it does the best when shedding as much speed as possible and using primarily vector thrusting to keep the nose pointed to the opponent. However doesnt sitting in that low velocity state make it very vulnerable against other attacks or even a potential wingman of the opponent? Maybe it would be interesting to try a 2vs2 scenario

[@errorabortretry3694]

I still remember from somewhere... that the weakest component in the Raptor is the pilot. I think this shows that off to amazing degrees... especially when it starts doing that falling leaf move...

[@mcflyingfury]

To be fair, both planes were pretty low energy the entire time, that's how supermaneuverable gun fights work

[@mcflyingfury]

@@DefinitelyNotEmma Anything that can go toe to toe with a Raptor for that long deserves the supermaneuverability tag. Also the Eurofighter is clearly more maneuverable than the Su-35, and if that plane is supermaneuverable, than so is the Eurofighter xd

[@NationChosenByGod]

May I remind you that the F-22 does not bleed any energy and can turn at will.

[@NationChosenByGod]

@@mcflyingfury and the Su-35 lost to the Chinese J-10, so that makes it super maneuverable fighter more maneuverable than Su-35 and other European fighters like rafale, gripen, and Eurofighter.

[@ManthisR]

Loved the video! Love the dogfights, but SEAD and any sort of scenarios involving teams of planes are awesome as well. Love what you do!

[@steveclarke1857]

"Hey, it's my buddy Shotgun in the F-22. He's put up some good fights in the past, let's hope we get that again today." Neckminnit "Sidestrafed again... That is so frustrating." "It doesn't move like a normal plane!" "It's super super frustrating." A rare hint of ever so slight tilt from GS that I'm fucking loving.

[@stevedemarest276]

I assume Shotgun was going for the saw-him-in-half shot every time.... just for those extra style points.

[@Luka_2008]

2:48 this has got to be the scariest thing ive ever seen LOL

[@Skyfighter64]

I just want to see how the F-5E stacks up to its replacement in the light, inexpensive supersonic multirole fighter-bomber arena, the JF-17.

[@scottmaxwell6028]

What if the the F 22 is guns only, but the challenger is weapons free after the merge? Kinda like the bully fighting with one hand tied behind his back.

[@edwardking186]

Except that bully is Mike Tyson.😂

[@gsilvy4k570]

That first kill was something else.

[@CP-in1oe]

First kill would be the highlight of any DCS highlight reel.

[@paynezerfaust4282]

Other than the 37mm, that first kill was the most lit up I've ever seen someone. Love it.

[@theScottishKoala]

"Stalling? I- I'm not sure what that is. Is it a food? It sounds gross..."

[@capsbr2100]

I thought it was just me thinking i was looking at the tail of the f22 and realize it shooting 😵

[@mckennaConfig]

He did a Falling Leaf to get a guns kill in Round 1! Impressive

[@h31212]

Although he was in an F-22, Shotgun really seems like a hell of a player. Those two first kills were just insane

[@air-headedaviator1805]

3:16 this was the same style of kill Olez pulled in the Eurofighter in fox 2 fight. Like a sick sense of irony

[@miguelruiz8183]

That M61 A1 is one Scary Gun

[@davidcannon3070]

That first kill is one of THE best things I have ever seen.

[@mattiaciucciove8084]

I adore the F22, but I have to give the Eurofighter props as well. Both extremely great at what they do. Nice job on the flying as well!

[@johneldridge5129]

The sigh before round 3......made me chuckle

[@ardem23]

Indeed SG put a show... and the first kill was stunning...

[@TacticalAnthony]

the F-22 is one hell of a bird, all the kills were extremely brutal

[@TORMotorsports]

Anybody else still wondering how it went from a falling looper to GS eating 20mm in the second fight?!?

[@CircsC]

That last fight the F-22 did its thing the second you started to hope

[@tejasviroyal8977]

2:45 was an absolute Chad Moment. The F-22 went from flying parallel to a log saw for the Typhoon. 🤯

[@barbaros99]

5:20 - Appreciate the Wile E. Coyote Cam.

[@josh5329]

The fact that in the first dogfight, the F 22 straight juked him into his line of fire

[@RT42069]

Damn, he turned you into pink mist in that first round

[@TheJchip]

That first hit is the most brutal gun kill hit along the entire side

[@abimaelmendez4912]

That first kill was brutal!

[@aaronliddell4280]

That first kill was the most rounds on target in a single burst I’ve ever seen! Lol 😂

[@akainguyen5866]

growling: tries to get to the ground F-22: just floats mid air

[@spidlenexor]

damn, shotgun really went HAM with those gun kills

[@snapshotplays441]

GS: I’m gonna try getting an altitude advantage here F22: you fool *starts floating*

[@laaams]

He manages to kill him almost exactly the same way every time😂😂

[@TexasGreed]

"he keeps pointing it" Crazy it just never hits that point where it sticks, just keeps on swinging around.

[@fabio1160]

Dogfighting an F-22 must feel like playing foosball with someone, and then discover that he is allowed to constantly "spin", and you are not

[@Rawkus105]

That Eurofighter is one good looking fighter but damn the Raptor just floats like a leaf...a very dangerous leaf.

[@thomaskok5773]

"I'm not gonna rate fight the F22.." F22: Are you sure bout that ??

[@codywoods8272]

that first kill it just looked like the f22 was just like I'll sit here and wait for you to cross. It just looked like he stopped dead and waited.

[@920utdoors9]

That 1st kill might be the most disrespectful kill I've seen on this channel lol

[@ostrich00]

That sigh at the beginning of round 3 😂😂😂

[@nickt9467]

Other plane: "For ze Motherland!" F-22: Other plane: "Nevermind"

[@jlot9118]

That was wild how that F22 turns on a flat spin

[@kechme]

That video made me laugh so hard. I love the F22.

[@Nick-rb1vk]

I LOVE IT when the F-22 is dogfighting!

[@vaccuumrolls7243]

Shotgun has really good aim, all that lead must have doubled the eurofighters weight 😆

[@Mezinov]

You could have had him - you just needed someone to answer that darn phone.

[@BrimHawk]

I love how he shot you in Round 2, then turned his back on you. Appropriate response.