AIR TANKS REALLY BLOW UP ? AIRGUN SAFETY FILLING TIPS

AIR TANKS REALLY BLOW UP ? AIRGUN SAFETY FILLING TIPS

[@tedbaxter5234]

Thank you. Informative video and food for thought for conscientious shooters. Burst discs are an important part of the safety equation too.

[@ShootingTargets727]

No doubt hope they work right ? Thanks again ted..

[@ScrotalsbySackington]

Paintball HPA systems in that era were 3000psi. I remember my first air america Armageddon system. By 2003/4 4500 was standard

[@hankvana2149]

Thanks for this - think you are right on with your approach/perspective! I'm of a similar mind and have a healthy paranoia around HPA. My tank is stored/filled vertically, valve up and is mounted in a full length, 8 inch (3/8" wall) pvc sewer pipe lined with 1/2" of rubber mat. This way the tank is protected physically and insulated from sudden temperature changes. Another HPA story... My father saw a lift-truck drive too close to a large (6k psi, 5 foot, 75 pound ???) steel welding tank lying on the floor and snap the valve clean off. The tank lifted off, blew a 3 foot hole through a concrete cinder block wall, flew over 100 yards and skidded another 100 or so feet before hitting and seriously damaging a parked car. There were a couple of close calls/near misses but nobody was hurt. HPA should be respected and is not something to mess with. For perspective, just think of how many shots there are stored in the HPA tank, add up the FPE from all those shots and you'll have an idea of how much distructive power you're dealling with. 😳 Have a good day eh!

[@ShootingTargets727]

Yep not to be too big of worry monger but always in the back of my mind !

[@ShootingTargets727]

Also thanks for watching...

[@motorgearhead]

I set tanks inside a trash can to fill. Tank is vertical & secure. I purchased an out of date SCBA and took it to a local company and had it recertified. It’s been a few years back but I think they filled it to over 7kpsi for the qualification. The test rig looks like a vertical cylinder that’s filled with water and probably 30” across. The lid is placed on top with an electric host & bolted in place. Asked the tech if he ever had one fail and he said a few but it’s rare and the tank is encased in the blast test cylinder. The tech stated carbon fiber tanks don’t produce much shrapnel, just sort of rips with loose strands of fibers. After talking with the tech I felt a lot better about the tank and the risk associated with it. I’m using a SCBA that emergency personnel in California had used. I rationalized the tank must be pretty tuff for someone to strap this thing on their back and go into a burning building full of potentially hot, sharp, pointy things and the tank not be considered an unacceptable risk to the responder. Just my rational. But no harm to be safe in handling & storage. I have noticed my tank pressure drops a couple hundred psi as the tank cools after filling. I fill to 4350 as I think it’s a little easier on my compressor. I’m using a Tuxing twin with 2 external water/oil filters. I can smell oil when I vent the moisture trap but no noticeable smell when vented at the tank so I’m happy with the filter rig. No doubt HPA is no joke.

[@ShootingTargets727]

Excellent to hear and interesting setup. Thanks for chiming in motor...

[@dennispeltier6142]

Considering my first PCP purchase and I'm extremely glad I picked your channel!!!

[@ShootingTargets727]

Excellent my man.. Thanks for watching commenting and the sub.

[@heathhalfhill6401]

I can see an aluminum or steel tank rupturing under some outside force like a bullet or being crushed but carbon fiber tanks are so much more safe in my opinion that you won't have a catastrophic event but rather have a situation like shooting a paint can with a Daisy red rider where it lifts off or spins around till the pressure is gone. I drive around with a 6.8 ltr carbon fiber tank filled to 300 bar/4351psi right behind my kidneys in my truck while doing pest control and I feel perfectly safe. Age of the tank is more a factor in tank safety to me than the anything under normal conditions. Temperature is a concern of course but common sense goes a long way with that also. Great video and subject material.

[@ShootingTargets727]

Thanks for watching and commenting

[@MountainSportAirguns]

Well I certainly wouldn't get inside one and plummet 12k' underwater. Generally airtanks are very, very safe. The biggest problems ive encountered is the components that go along with the actual tank. Examples of weak links are brass fittings, low quality connectors, and fill whips themselves. If a hose or connection breaks it can take out an eye or any number of serious injuries. Use good quality components because life may depend on it.Great topic thats never discussed enough. Cheers

[@ShootingTargets727]

Mountain good to hear from you. LOL yea not going in any sub man. Also make good points all the connection pieces into these tanks can become a problem. Thanks again for watching......

[@michaelstorm8578]

When I fill a tank or gun I like to have it higher than the compressor so the fill line is going up hill. When I'm done filling I reverse the line and run the compressor a bit and usually get some water from the line. I then leave the line disconnected on both ends when not in use so it may dry a bit more. I not sure if my precautions help but I think they might. Thanks for the video.

[@chrisfigueroa3361]

Awesome topic and info I usually fill my guns to 230 bar no more then that because of wear and tear and I don't want nothing to Explode I've had a burst disc pop on my youg heng compressor and that was scary 😳 also when I fill to 250 bar it's been so hot that my gauge will claim to 265 to 275 on my 580cc 300 bar bottle and 700cc bottle 300 bar it wont damaged the bottle but you never no thanks sharing bsafe buddy 👍

[@ShootingTargets727]

yea, good point those cheap gauges seem more like rough points than actual measurements right ? Thansk again for watching.

[@JohnVentarino-ey5ln]

I bought the OMEGA AIR CHARGER COMPRESSER for 1600 and it's a really good one SG from SOTHERN GUNNER on KZbin had his for 6 years filling over 15 Carbon fiber Scuba tanks he owned he does a shit load of shooting and he never had a problam with the OMEGA COMPRESSER.

[@ShootingTargets727]

Good to know.. These compressors have a tendency to break so that might be another consideration if mine goes out.

[@DropDieter]

Filling is a rush! Caution is warranted. 5 bar left on a hose with metal coupling can be enough to break a face.

[@ShootingTargets727]

a rush hey ? lol yea i kind of get that . you always feel like you are tempting fate at 4500 psi...

[@peteralexben]

its proberly hard to bring out a vid that not already done by some one i gues . . but your vids are worth waiting

[@ShootingTargets727]

Much Thanks for watching and the kind comments.

[@rpouncy]

Great safety points and overall coverage. You covered tanks, hoses, compressors and safe air. We have seen, as you eluded, less air to higher air pressure capacity. That said, how long before changing tubes or bottles like 480, 580, 700cc?

[@ShootingTargets727]

Yea, I think those carbon fiber tanks are suppose to be 5 years ??? I have to look .... Good comments so many things to cover.

[@ShootingTargets727]

also thanks for watching and the sub.

[@noonespecific9463]

You said moisture getting inside causing corrosion weakening from inside, would it not be possibly to pull a vacuum on air tanks on guns to remove moisture, like as a maintenance task? A vacuum is easily pulled by a pump from someplace like Harbor Freight, just like pulling a vacuum on a cars AC system.

[@ShootingTargets727]

yep there are a few ways to get water out of these tanks the best is to make sure the new air in the system is moister free as it reduces the overall humidity. Hope that makes sense.

[@peteralexben]

with the big caliber airguns ,you wil have only a few shots at max fill , but you can use a external bottle with a external reg set at 190 bar , ,less ware of the gun and more constant shots

[@ShootingTargets727]

ooh yea, my external regulator video mentions that .... nice to see these all flowing together and bringing that part up..

[@charleshayden3931]

Firemen use SCBAs when running into fires. Seems alot hotter than a car out in the sun.

[@ShootingTargets727]

Yea, totally true I forget about those things. I am paranoid because I do not want to be that guy that people read about in the paper and folks say what the hell was he thinking lol. So saftey first. Thanks again for watching and the sub.

[@rysaik7543]

I'm wondering how much pressure to leave in my air pistols for pest control as I will need to use it immediately rather than pump it up. One pistol has a 300 bar max pressure and the other 35 MPa. I usually leave about 10% less than the max but will leaving it at max pressure for storage be OK?

[@ShootingTargets727]

I leave enough for it to shoot but not at max just my way of doing it. Hope this helps.

[@jbhk7977]

I'm doing things the same way my friend. I never fill my big tank up to 300 bar even though it's rated for that . . . 250 is fine and I use the Hill compressor to get it up to 250. I will never fill my leshiy 2 to 300 bar but 250 as well. For the rest I only have 200 bar guns. I know that 200 bar can still be a bomb when things go wrong but still it is significantly less than 300 bar. My big question is, at what pressure do you store your guns when you put them away for a longer period of time? I store all my airguns in a gun safe and I'm wondering if I need to add a vent hole in the case something goes wrong . . . . best regards from the Netherlands.

[@ShootingTargets727]

Hey, well for some reason I usually run down my rifles before I put them away to about 200 Bar. I have no reason but seems like something in the middle pressure range seems good.. Hope this helps thanks for watching and chiming in.

[@jbhk7977]

@@ShootingTargets727 Thanks for your response ;-)

[@IvanIgnath]

Last week, on my way back from the diving shop, a freshly filled 300-bar cylinder in the car trunk accidentaly moved and hit something with its valve. However, no drama occurred - the valve released approximately 100 bars in about 10seconds, cylinder cooled down and I returned back to diving shop.

[@ShootingTargets727]

lol, yea i bet that got you to wake up !! Hey thanks for watching and the sub.

[@226eagleeye]

Very good. Are the small bottles that come with the guns safer than the big scuba tanks?

[@ShootingTargets727]

ahhhh not sure on that one. I am always worried about 3000 psi right ? Thanks for watching...

[@226eagleeye]

@@ShootingTargets727maybe one day these tanks will be built with a control explosion fail point. A deliberately weak point, built in that will fail first and just scare you rather than hurt you. Not talking pressure disks because they fail above a certain pressure. Talking about long time tank fatigue that could fail at normal pressures. I am dreaming I guess lol.

[@ShootingTargets727]

@@226eagleeye hey sometimes it takes dreams to make it real..... Thanks again.

[@ScrotalsbySackington]

I think youre being a bit over cautious. 5/3 is test pressure, burst pressure is sometimes 7/3-8/3. Brittleness of composites is the biggest threat other than impacts. The most likely blowout is burst disk, and or the line or Oring failure. And dont play loose with the cheap Amazon chinese components unless they meet or exceed the wall.thickness to 5/3 pressure ratio. I dont trust anything lesser thwn 6061 9mm thick for

[@ShootingTargets727]

Thanks for the input yea, just messing with that much PSI is kind of freaky sometimes so I am paranoid lol..... Thanks for watching .

[@ScrotalsbySackington]

@ShootingTargets727 I completely understand. Every time I fill the cylinder on my guns I sit there mentally picturing a catastrophic deafening blast and shards of shrapnel going in to my eyes and teeth and a nice sized jagged fragment slicing my carotid, picturing my neck garden hosing red juice and my un fragmented eye rolling back while I convulse and gargle when trying to scream for help.. so I'm with you. But the fact cylinders meet CE/DOT/ISO standards means they are absolutely over engineered and the working pressures are less than a walk in the park to them does help comfort me. Hatsan, And the chinese amazon only manufactured stuff not made by alsafe, liaonlaing*sp and Subang Xiamen (tuxing/yong heng/acecare/spritech).. like the oil water filters with 5-6mm unspecified aluminum are way too iffy for me. Also amaxon selling 3000/200bar aluminum cylinders listed as 30MPA/300 BAR cylinders scares me for the sake of the lesser intellectually endowed among us.

[@ShootingTargets727]

@@ScrotalsbySackington lol i know right...

[@neilremy8861]

dive shop does mine takes all the risk away if you use a compressor you should be vareful a dive shop near me had a state of the art compressor a d a bottle blew half his face off

[@ShootingTargets727]

Wow yea man it gets scary bud... Hey thanks for commenting, watching and the sub...

[@tedbaxter5234]

They take all the risk? Not hardly. They only armed a bomb that did not explode, then they gave it to you.

[@neilremy8861]

@tedbaxter5234 they hand you a safe cylinder had them in my car at 30 degrees C with no issues they are safer once filled than during filling that's for sure

[@ShootingTargets727]

@@tedbaxter5234 lol... here you go sir have a nice day...