Been a host for years, and this has been one of the most helpful videos I’ve ever watched. Truly want to thank you for giving out this knowledge!
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
Wow, that means a lot! Thank you! 🥹
@brendadireen382 Жыл бұрын
Same here! You guys are amazing! Thanks so much!
@josianunes4 Жыл бұрын
Yes, this has been a very good video. Did you guys figure out if this well affect your nightly rate in the ranking?
@azzuriazzuri1832 Жыл бұрын
I have been on airbnb for 11 years and regularly follow all the information and this is by far the most useful information I ever got, thank you
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you so much! Glad it was helpful 🙏
@brucefreeman5207 Жыл бұрын
I would like to hear an update on how switching the cleaning fee to a management fee has affected your bookings. I followed this strategy and it took my nightly rate above my comps and I feel many people look at the nightly rate instead of the total cost of their stay. I may revisit the management fee strategy after the new year but I would love hear the impact if any others have experienced using it.
@alessiotomba1889 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@janscilipoti3823 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. Until most of the listings use this pricing strategy, early adopters will look as if our nightly rates are too high.
@kathyf5210 Жыл бұрын
I, too, would like an update on eliminating cleaning fees and adding the management fee. I only have one property but it seems like since I've eliminated cleaning fees and added management fees, I'm ranking lower in the algorithm. I'm not 100% sure, but that's my sense. You guys are pros and would better be able to evaluate based on your numerous listings. Thanks. This was a very helpful video.
@noz18211 ай бұрын
Kylee and Steven, Thanks for your videos. I just discovered your channel and have watched 3 of your videos. I dropped that subscribe button, you both are doing great on your content. Thank You!
@MarcioDelgado1 Жыл бұрын
I am using Airbnb less and less. Prices gone up and a lot of hosts don’t update their listings and simply say the property is not available once guests try to book it.
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
That's going to be very host/property specific. But I feel ya. There are some bad ones out there.
@BrianW211 Жыл бұрын
Wow, the management fee is what they should've had years ago. I always used a cleaning fee as an incentive to book longer stays, but guests hate it unless your price is already really low. The extra guest fee is useless as a deterrent, and Airbnb doesn't help to collect it, but that review removal based on house rule violations is awesome! Also, it's worth mentioning that every time AirBnB does a platform update, your existing settings may change, so you really have to go through everything, because the changes are rarely if ever favorable to hosts.
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
Excellent point on the platform updates. We've experienced this as well. Very frustrating with a big portfolio!
@tarastavelingpaints48116 ай бұрын
9:30 what if you have a residue 1 and your property can hold 6, and when cleaning goes in for a flip and every bed was slept in and all dishes were dirty, could they be charged foe extra guests
@brandotex Жыл бұрын
Also check your category, I had to contact Airbnb to change mine and it took several days. It was very incorrect. Instant Booking I do not have turned on.
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@DanielDarugna Жыл бұрын
unfortunately management fee is only available if you have 6 or more listing. not my case.
@Palantir_Daily Жыл бұрын
Gotta thank Sean R. (Airbnb automated) for that management fee tip
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
Didn’t know that! Saw it on instagram 😊
@pg618 Жыл бұрын
When I click on apartments I will get apartments I will get rooms and I will get something called place to stay and I've complained about that but they cannot fix it. Also when I've had a complaint I get handed off to a second person the third person a fourth person and perhaps the fourth of the fifth person fixes the problem. Also they refer to a person doing the hosting as a wonderful person when in fact they don't know that.
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
We have our fair share of complaints about Airbnb support from a host perspective as well.
@theairbnfree Жыл бұрын
Great vid guys! I know that there are emails being sent to some hosts right now stating that they will be reimbursed for the short stay cleaning]g fee's that were missed. Apparently the major issue was for those who were using a PMS and the bug only affected them. So if you have the information from the stay where you guys missed out you may be able to reach out to airbnb and get a refund for that amount. That will be an expensive bug for them! haha.
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the tip! We'll reach out to them.
@LunarAleLa Жыл бұрын
Also can't get to the management fee section. Maybe you have to be a superhost and it's not available to the rest?
@JesseVasquezAirVenture Жыл бұрын
Solid tips! Great meeting y’all in Houston!
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
Let’s plan that collab! 🙌
@varonicatayler Жыл бұрын
Great video, once again! Thank you! 😊
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
Thank you, too!
@liocean9636 Жыл бұрын
Airbnb must changed their setting again because we can't see management fees.
@HM-ho4fz Жыл бұрын
I agree, is there a new process to attach "management fees" ?
@BM-hz7sg Жыл бұрын
I found this to be buggy. When I zeroed out the cleaning fee, the management fee disappeared. When I put the fee back and refreshed the page, I could see management fee again. Set the management fee, then remove the cleaning fee. Before I figured this out I called SuperHost support and they said I needed to fix tax information first. I did that, but I don't know if it mattered.
@brookyogini6625 Жыл бұрын
Yea.. does not show up.. I have been searching
@mrjohnhawn Жыл бұрын
You need to go to "Account" then "Professional hosting tools" and click on "Manage" to activate hosting tools and you will see the extra fees on your calendar.
@tammybutler64499 ай бұрын
Same here, so I did a Google search and I read something that said it's only available for hosts that have 6 or more properties.
@liocean9636 Жыл бұрын
Management fee setting aren't there.
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
I noticed it glitching sometimes after changing the cleaning fee and had to reload the page to see the management fee section again.
@liocean9636 Жыл бұрын
@@kyleeandsteven ok then I'll try that.
@blueloraine Жыл бұрын
I'm having same issue and reload isn't working. Try again later unless there is a fix.
@anthonywood8587 Жыл бұрын
Its a pro feature, you have to make sure you are in the Pro version or using a PMS system.
@LunarAleLa Жыл бұрын
@@anthonywood8587 how do you get to the pro version? Is it only available to Superhosts or something like that?
@AlfredoTrabulsi Жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for all your videos! I have a question, on my listing on the promotion section I do not have a way to add new promotions, can you help me with that?
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
Is it a new listing?
@AlfredoTrabulsi Жыл бұрын
@@kyleeandsteven Hi, no it is not. so the promotions tab is gone?
@Lawnpatrol147 ай бұрын
Did they do away with this? I don’t see this management fee tab.
@kyleeandsteven7 ай бұрын
we have it on the calendar view, then pricing settings. I believe you may need to have multiple listings for this to show up.
@gailsebastiao6265 Жыл бұрын
Management fee is not an option if we don’t have a pro account. Any other advice on this?
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
We all band together and pressure Airbnb to stop making us the bad guys and just integrate the cleaning fee across the board. (not holding my breath on this, but worth a shot) We set it, but it get's applied like the management fee, for everyone's listing. No more of this toggle on-off the view on the search page. Even the management fee isn't a perfect option since our nightly rates for short stays will be significantly higher than those who have a line-item'ed cleaning fee, at least on the search page. We'll address this in depth in an upcoming video.
@JRspeaking Жыл бұрын
If you put the "cleaning fee" as a "management fee", but the guest only books one night, you're essentially only getting a fraction of the fee (since it's broken down daily)....correct? Or, do you collect the same fee despite the number of nights booked? (example: 1 night = $100 management fee. 2 nights = $50 management fee per night.)
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
You collect the same fee. The more nights booked, the more that fee gets spread across. So a single night will have a pretty high nightly rate
@janscilipoti3823 Жыл бұрын
Yes, so in effect the guests who are booking shorter stays because they need to watch their budgets probably won’t look at our listings if we use this strategy, because until everyone does, the nightly rate will appear to be too high. I wish Airbnb would just switch to one method or the other. We should all be displayed the same!
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
@@janscilipoti3823 agreed. It would not be hard for them to implement!
@vikkigilmore941511 ай бұрын
I was initially excited about the management fee hack, but it seems it's only available to those who manage 6 or more properties. ;) Thanks for the tips anyway!
@marlamcdermott9114 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to instant booking- when you ask questions as a form of pre screening, what happens if days go by and you never get a response from the guest? Do you take it as a red flag and try to get their reservation cancelled?
@KevinBurns86 Жыл бұрын
I don’t. Often they don’t check for messages until just before they arrive.
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
If you require a pre-booking message for instant book then they will have to say *something*, and it's very rare that they won't follow the prompt that we gave for the pre-booking message
@pg618 Жыл бұрын
I use the mobile phone and I've never seen a cleaning fee perhaps I need to check my bank account to see if anything was added on top of what they told me is the bottom line.
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
I'd have a thorough look at your settings on the desktop version
@Boostly Жыл бұрын
Love this
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
@boostly Thought of your talk a lot this week during multiple, hell-ish Airbnb support incidents. We've put a lot of focus into direct bookings this year, but know we can do better!
@Boostly Жыл бұрын
You got this@@kyleeandsteven
@mr.mikesart7111 Жыл бұрын
Very hard to remove reviews now
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
It's been hit or miss with us. Sometimes reviews we think will be easy to remove don't get removed and vice versa. Frustrating, for sure!
@Stantep10 ай бұрын
I don't have the custom promotions button.
@kehindeemiabata4032 Жыл бұрын
If you have a two person accommodation, but one person books your space, do you charge an extra fee if they bring in another person?
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
Our nightly rates assume max occupancy. In our opinion, they’re booking the entire house, not just a portion of it, regardless of how much of the house is “used” 😊
@michellecandis Жыл бұрын
As a guest of over 120 airbnbs (and never a host… not sure how this video popped up)- but I’d say that -when I see super low cleaning fees, I 100% don’t stay there at all. I hate when the cleaning fee is 300 cause I know they’re not paying the cleaners that- but at the same time- I absolutely don’t think twice to pass on the low fees (never seen free options but would feel the same)- I don’t want to feel like they’re skimping on the cleaning- which is already hard even when done “well”.
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
That’s an interesting perspective, thanks so much for sharing! Full transparency, our cleaners charge us between $190-$250 for 3-4 bedroom homes.
@trendyasmr10511 ай бұрын
How did you get to 120 airbnbs?
@RetrieverTrainingAlone Жыл бұрын
I prefer AirBnB instead of motels because I want a quiet environment for sleeping...not having a party start in the room above at midnight as can occur in moteles.
@edwardspringer8991 Жыл бұрын
So the short stay cleaning fee has been on the platform since I started in 2020, this is nothing new.
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
Placement looks a little different, and the glitch that happened to many hosts where it was automatically charged without the setting turned on was new.
@ErnaSolbergXXX Жыл бұрын
The price difference between renting from Airbnb and a hotel makes it not worth using Airbnb anymore. It's too expensive. We have to pay a "premium price", but we don't get a "premium service".
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
That's going to be very host/property specific. But I feel ya. There are some bad ones out there.
@valorieb5229 Жыл бұрын
So, you are trying to pull some charges on the very person is helping you make money. The cleaning fees, mgt fee, booking fee. What you are looking at in the long term is people being done with getting fees to death and go somewhere else. I do a lot of travel bookings, this is exactly what we are over when dealing with these tye of accommodation sites.
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
The issue seems to be the guest perception of a line-itemed cleaning fee, but I think people forget that this is a business and we have to cover our costs. The money we pay our cleaner, along with all other operating expenses, needs to be considered when setting our rates. Whether or not that cleaning fee is line-itemed is not really important to us, as it will be considered in the overall rate set by the host regardless of how the total is presented to the guest.
@AnyelinaL Жыл бұрын
@@kyleeandstevenAnd that's why many people are choosing a hotel now. Hotels are being cheaper than airbnb and cleaning is included, many hotels include breakfast and use of others amenities like pool or gym.
@ariadnabarone2953 Жыл бұрын
@@AnyelinaLHotels are completely different. The cleaning is much easier given there is minimal items in the room and it doesn’t feel like a home.
@AnyelinaL Жыл бұрын
@@ariadnabarone2953 And how many rooms a hotel has to clean on a regular basis? On top of common areas? Yes it's different now because it's cheaper and better than airbnb.
@ark194 Жыл бұрын
Air Bnb is evil
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
Let's hear you unpack this...
@danielbocelli Жыл бұрын
Lol they JUST released some updates
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
Back to the drawing board! 😅
@janscilipoti3823 Жыл бұрын
You’ll never lack for KZbin content!😁
@dorian_delorean Жыл бұрын
Stupidly expensive cleaning fees is why I hate Airbnb. Just fold the cost into the price.
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
That's what we're trying to do here...
@roslynr9767 Жыл бұрын
I don't want to hide a cleaning fee. Either you charge less or more. But a cleaning fee is a cleaning fee. I just don't charge that much
@KristinaNewYork8 ай бұрын
The neverending fees with airbnb is why I have never booked the airbnb. I love hotels, predictable, clean, nice no diy decorating (yuck).
@drosas85 Жыл бұрын
I don’t even know why people still host and book these places. I miss the good old days of Airbnb
@kyleeandsteven Жыл бұрын
That's going to be very host/property specific. But I feel ya. There are some bad ones out there.
@Angelo20262 Жыл бұрын
We stopped using Airbnb! Hotels are we more fair and customer service oriented. Too many misleading ads and no financial when proven.
@AdamJTannerPhotography Жыл бұрын
This video makes me glad vacation rentals are on their way out.
@kellyevans9682 Жыл бұрын
lol what gives you that impression? TikTok comment sections of people that rarely travel complaining?
@lutherepperhart4785 Жыл бұрын
AirBnB's CEO looooves screwing over hosts in favor of guests or himself. He knows more guests are more profitable for him, so he gives no shits about throwing hosts under the bus.