Airgun shooting sub MOA - Sub $300 airgun and AVS Slugs

[@HajimotoProductions]

Very very nice slug performance AVS, VERY nice! I love the groups and am absolutely blown away by what you have that Liberty doing. Kudo's! Thank you so much for the shout out my man!

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you!, Haji! That means alot coming from you! Thank again for all your help and advice.

[@HajimotoProductions]

@Matt E 🤣

[@davidpeckham5503]

For a choked barrel and a longer twist rate that isn't exactly optimal for slugs that's pretty awesome. Bob o just shot slugs out of a Maximus with relative success. Great video 👌

[@charlesmckinley29]

Hajimoto Productions Ill be checking out your channel. I want to get set up to film through a scope. Thank you for all the help here!

[@tywilson8713]

I've been a subscriber since all the way back to your 2240 conversions. It's amazing how you transform middle to low end rifles to shoot and look like guns costing MUCH more. Love your videos, keep up the good work!

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you!

[@kevinyoung9034]

Your excitement is well justified. That was amazing! I finally got a Liberty in the wood stock. Still working with the stock tune and I am loving it.

[@davidpeckham5503]

Nice shooting for a budget gun. That's friggin awesome!! Keep up the good work with the slugs. I hope you do well with that. And I'm glad to hear you talk up fellow airgunners like hajimoto. Thanks for what you do.

[@easternblocairguns2728]

Wow! Great job! My R5M $1800, has not gaving me a sub moa 10-shot yet. I may have to but some of your slugs!

[@AirVelocitySport]

I hope you do shoot a sub MOA group with your R5M with the AVS slugs. Good Luck

[@strshooter7399]

I've been working my way through your videos, and though I skipped a couple here and there, I'm still in awe of your work on 3 stocks you built from walnut. Great job. I can only imagine the work each one was that we didn't see on video. The fact you are sharing these is super. I don't know jack bo diddly about videoing, but I've read it takes a huge amount of time to edit one down to be presentable online. Yours' are great. I think the way you've shown the work you've done on your various PCP air rifles is clear, and you've made it easy to understand regardless if anyone is going to copy your methods or not, very interesting and a treat to watch. I'd go on and on, but I'm still working through the last 4-5 of your videos to watch. Thank you. (I'll mention to you a web site you might enjoy, (or not) "This Old Tony" . His videos are interesting and well done also. Great to watch even if you aren't a machinist... , which I an not)

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you! I really appreciate you taking the time to comment. I really enjoy airguns and the tuning. I hope to spread the joy to others as well. I learned much from watching others and just want to return the favor. All the best!

[@khamishusain]

Absolutely stunning for 10 shots. I barely get it for 5 shots with high end much more expensive guns. Keep it up

[@henrymoreland8719]

its sub, period, and not over dramatic, very well done..

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you!

[@giovannim5101]

That is excellence shooting plus for a 300 dollar air rifle that is amazing good work....

[@allaboutpcpairguns7069]

That's a great group see you don't need a 2000 dollar gun

[@ledeni012]

Fantastic video! Objective, accurate, informative ... As always.

[@jadabecky]

I just realize it was your slugs being sold on eBay I have purchased some 85gr 257 for my Airforce Texan.

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you! I also sell them on my website for 10% less than eBay. Ww.AVSslugs.com

[@stedyone1090]

Thumbs up sub MOA. Congrats. Enjoyed videos and all others, got your slugs for my 2 Nova Libertys. A little busy hunting and fishing to give feed back yet, but I will cuz I purchased 300 of them. Peace.

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you!

[@leroyjarvis5617]

Nicely done! Good video!

[@amadomata459]

Outstanding video, very informative and easy to follow for us neophytes of the airgun world. You seem quite the marksman, e.g., a sub-MOA (0.29 MRD? just about) at 100 yds. is quite the feat in my credence. Your slugs seem to perform quite well, precise and accurate. I believe the wind might have directed your POI a tad to your right, otherwise, you would have been spot-on centered. Thank you for the excellence in your presentation. I wish best of all possible fortunes.

[@GreenArrows0705]

Well done! I like your enthusiasm. Keep up the great work!

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you!

[@garrysansoucie]

Congratulations are in order! That’s awesome shooting! I have some of your slugs on order and can’t wait to try them in my Liberty. It’s been a long learning experience with this gun but I FINALLY had some good results with JSB 18.1’s last nigh.

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you!

[@genarolopez6299]

My friend , your slugs are the best , of the best ,I shot 34 grains 100 yards with my hatsan bt65 qe , pas 3/4 of playwood nice job 👍

[@jimomalley1518]

Nice setup .

[@heathhalfhill6401]

Thank you so much for this information. Your dedication to this way of life never ceases to amaze me. I have been wondering about the B.C on your bullets because of the flat trajectory they give me in my Liberty's. Now that you have provided us with this knowledge, I can input this info into the chronograph data and formulate downrange energy so I know if I will have enough energy, trajectory and wind drift to cleanly dispatch some of the pests and critters cleanly and humanely. It's so much easier to plot solutions when you have the numbers. Keep up the great work. Your slugs are very high precision and spot-on in weight and form. Not one single thing off when I received them. Every one of them was perfect in every way. Amazing. Thank you for everything you share with all of us and help us with. You are the man. Are you making any in .25 caliber around 25-26 grains?

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank Health. I have the .25 die but no solid info yet on they perform.

[@robertfeddeler5508]

OK, so 22 grain is .111 the 23.2 grain is .107 the 24.2 grain is .104 and the 26.1 grain is .1026. I'm writing this here so incase people miss the info in the vid they don't have to search again.

[@fathertimencUSA]

Excellent I have the Nova Liberty and love it.

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thanks. Excellent gun.

[@richardcampbell5762]

WOW!!!! I am just blown away brother. You my friend are one of the mad scientist of air rifling. Hell nothing wrong with being enthused about a 1 inch group. Love your videos and your enthusiasm is what keeps me watching them. You love the sport. We'll be talking to you soon about getting some slugs when I get back to town. Really want to try them out on a few rifles that I have but most of all in my bullboss. Working out of state right now. Wouldn't look good if I put it on the company card. LOL. Keep doing what you doing my friend. Keep shooting straight and stay blessed. From New Mexico!!! 👍👍👍🇺🇸✌

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you Richard! It so addictive trying to hit small targets far away. Be safe on your travels..

[@davekennedy4002]

Great video sir. AVS , haven’t seen these before, well worth the look from this video and this rifle, well done and a good presentation- thanks

[@Mach1rulz]

What were you zeroed at? Do you know what the drop, in inches, is for that slug at 100yds?

[@AirVelocitySport]

Zeroed at 100 yards shooting 23.2 grain at 983 fps with a bc of .1 the drop from LOD is 20.5 inches. Just checked chair gun pro.

[@joshuagibson2520]

Line of departure if anyone us curious, as I was. Gotta love getting quick answers on the web! Lol.

[@mikel9162]

Looking good there Banker! KnifeMaker

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank for catching that error. I put a note in the comments and below the video. The 22 grain is actually .111 average instead of .121

[@jonquinones964]

I just recently ordered some of your 25s. Can’t wait to shoot them. The look great

[@amadomata459]

Great videos. Happy Easter to you and yours.

[@fathertimencUSA]

Fishing line works better on cutting clay.

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you! I have plenty of that. I will use fishing line next time

[@chrisfigueroa3361]

That's awesome Steve I've turned my nova back down to like an 1/8 ccw on reg and 1 washer on the hammer spring my gun is a good 50 yard gun with the AVS slugs and 18. Gr jsb higher shot count lower fpe I'm happy I'm about to buy a high end gun I just don't know which on I'm.thinking the taipan long 25 or dreamline lite or maybe edgun r5m long I just don't know it's hard to decide

[@AirVelocitySport]

Most people I talk to love the Taipan.

[@chrisfigueroa3361]

@@OriOnTheIguanaHunter lol I just talked to Tony we might make a deal he only has one left laminate stock

[@ralstonraz]

Amazing....

[@phillipmendiola1257]

Great vedio , beautiful expansion on that slug perfect , outstanding accuracy nice .

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you!

[@phillipmendiola1257]

Hey I purchased your 22cal , 22gr hp , slugs are very accurate out of my Hatsan Airmax getting 950 fps , quarter size groups 75 yards , got to order some more

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you for the feed back! I'm hearing they are working well in other guns too.

[@phillipmendiola1527]

Oh Yeah, will you be making 25cal slugs in the future.

[@EdwardLHern]

What about the other grain sizes like the 20gr? Like 5 shot groups with say 3 sizes, then the same test with a quality pellet, say JSB exact heavy 18.1gr as a counter (pellet) group, and compare

[@EDCandLace]

The Crown Cont (.22 700mm slug liner) Impact MKII .22 and .25 700mm slug liners and my .22 and .25 Poly barreled HM1000X LRTs all consistently print sub Minute 10 shot 100y groups. These are 2000 dollar guns and at a indoor 100y range. Out doors on calm days any of them will shoot MOA or better about 7 out of ten groups. A 300 dollar gun shooting 10 shot 100y groups that are Minute or better is insane... If that gun can consistently print 1.5 minute or better 10 shot 100y groups then holy shit thats amazing. My .30 Dream lite bottle gun will shoot right at 1.5 minute 10 shot 100y groups consistently and is a 1250 dollar gun... My Neutronstar .22 will shoot around 1.5 minute 100y 10 shot groups with a few different .217 slugs and is a 800 dollar gun. If you can get 1.5 moa capable gun for 300 dollars that literally allows people coming in to the sport a fantastic chance as they have guns that are capable of insane performance that they will not quickly out grow (you have out grown a gun as soon as the gun is the limiting factor not your skills.) Making them truly enjoy the hobby and over time wanting to invest more money and time in to it. 5 years ago 300 buckes would get you in the hobby with a Discovery (not including support gear) and was fantastic but a shooter would QUICKLY out grow the Disco. The gun (stock) was a 50y and in gun. JSB 18.13s would consistently print at an inch at 50 for ten of them. At a 100y 10 shot groups would run in the 5 minute range... With some tuning and some upgrades (smooth the barrel lead, have the barrel squared up and a large turned crown, open transfer port, add a power adjuster and dial it in to around 28ftlbs and have a solid 12 shots between 1800 and 1400psi that would be with in a 10fps ES) you could get the guns shooting im the 3.5 inch range at 100y. Now it's amazing how good the sub 500 dollar guns are. My neutron star is a 800 dollar gun and is absolutely superb (will it replace my FX and RAWs NO LOL) and capable of so much... As it sits its pushing NSA .217 27.5g slugs at 61ftlbs and will print 5 shot groups in the .75 minute range all day long with 10 shot groups being sub 1.5 min consistently. Trigger is great (not world class but great), action is pretty smooth, stock is very nice for its price, solid barrel (we did do a light lead lapping, smoothing of the leade, deburr on transfer port, and cut a 11 degree target crown on the lathe) for a gun in its price range... Overall a damn nice sledge hammer of a gun for 800 bucks... It's amazing now that you can get a gun of that level kf preformance for that price. It's also extremely happy with JSB 25.39s at 48ftlbs with just a simple power adjustment and shoots the FX Hybrids amazingly well at 48ftlbs. At its current tune it loves the NSA 27.5s in .217 at that tune thats all i shot out of it because it's shooting so hot. Even at that power level the current tune provides 42 shots with a SD of 2fps and a ES over the 42 of 19fps... If your pushing the Hybrids at 48ftlbs with that hammer spring adjustment it's shot string is 58 shots with a ES of 17fps and a SD of 1.7fps. This is on a 3550 psi starting pressure down to 2800psi. If you read this i would love to buy 500 of your slugs to test... Im sure they would shoot lights out in more then a few of my .22 slug builds.

[@AirVelocitySport]

One correction on 22 grain BC calculation, it shows an average BC over 5 shots as .121 it's actually .111 The third test on the 22 grain slugs was calculated incorrectly as .17 its supposed to be .121. Thank you Knifemaker (Mike)

[@wadehallstrom7260]

I just bought some of these from you to shoot In my new avenger 😊🤞.

[@richardpiotrowski1043]

Can you do a video about the equipment you use for making slugs? Living in CA, almost all of the bullets I shoot are hand loads and would like to add airgun slug making to the reloading room. Pretty amazing shooting from such an inexpensive gun... I have one in .177 and a Gauntlet in .25. Both can get the job done...

[@s.m.arduengo3498]

Which slugs seem to group best out or your Nova Liberty; cup based, dish based or hollow based?

[@warren935]

That is impressive nice work

[@KevinWood44]

Did you break you arm patting yourself on the back??

[@craigmarsh4451]

Maybe you can tell me can these be used in a Benjamin piston drive air gun. Or are these for PCP airguns only because that would leave alot of people out on this for I do carry an air rifle on my boat for hunting because I do have a fur bearers licence and believe me follow a very stricked rule when on the river. If anyone around or what ever no joy. Safety first no matter what.

[@MountainSportAirguns]

Gets out to 100 yards pretty quick eh? Took a bit to edit I'm sure, nice job!

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you Yes but it's not work when you have fun. Alright maybe a little work but all worth it.

[@paulgeorge8986]

I most have missed it. Did you ever say what kind of rifle? I’m looking to get into my first pcp. What would be the best .25 slug shooter under 5 bills?

[@jeffblahnik4252]

Way to go dr S Love you brother couple of questions for you I noticed lately you’ve been shooting the slugs without any kind a moderator on the end of the barrel do you think that helps with the accuracy on the slugs and also sticking with the single shot tray What are your thoughts

[@AirVelocitySport]

Hey Jeff thank you and good catch. I've removed anything that can throw off the accuracy because I'm testing slugs. Tomorrow I plan to shoot some more 10 shot sub MOA. Then I will try with the moderator on.

[@thehaze1972]

Just outta curiousity, did the mushroomed slug lose any material? How much does it weigh? Great video as allways.

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you! Just weighed it at 23.03 grain from 23.15 grains. It lost about .1 of a grain

[@vicentejimenezmercado2355]

Do yo think the it is possible to swap the barrel to Lothar walther polygonal to push the 25 jsb to 950 accurate

[@predatorsolutionsofmichigan]

Have you talked about the fps slugs fly best? What is the fastest you can send them down range? Same as pellets, under 900 fps?

[@AirVelocitySport]

I have shot them as fast as 1075 fps with the 24 grain with very good results. I have not tried to do a sub MOA group at that speed. I will do my testing with these slugs when this COVID19 thing ends.

[@redgum1340]

OK, you are making the slugs but who made the swagging mold? What brand is the mold?

[@AirVelocitySport]

These are not molds they are swaging dies. They use any number of swaging press manufacturer s like Corbin or RCBS but my dies are custom machined by machinist. Currently, the Corbin and RCBS companies are so back logged it could take 8 months to get a single die made from them. No thanks.

[@robertfeddeler5508]

Did you ever get a BC on the 20 grain cup base slugs?

[@jadabecky]

Thanks!!

[@bubbleone6526]

Excellent, one flyer and it looked like you rushed 7&8 so good grouping. Will your 25 cal shoot out of an Umarex gauntlet 25 cal?

[@cordellej]

hi i own a hatsan bt 65 in .22 the magazine is quite shallow. would you by any chance know if your slugs are short enough to fit in the magazine and not bind up while cycling?

[@AirVelocitySport]

I do not know for sure but they are no longer than the h&n barracuda match and the 22 are shorter than the 18 grain jsb

[@sumwiseguy7737]

Just bought some 20 gr for my kral puncher np 03, Ill let you know how it goes

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you, looking for Ward to feedback.

[@Meloncholymadness]

Do you make .22 slugs?

[@AirVelocitySport]

Yes

[@rasberryrl]

Thanks for the video. Wondering if you have any experience with Hatsan airguns, specifically the Nova .22 and the BT65 .25? if so what gr do your recommend for each? if not, are you selling a sample pack in both cal?

[@AirVelocitySport]

I have onwed the hatsan galatian in .22 but it was a beast. I never shot slugs out of it but I have had others tell me they the AVS .254 worked well in the BT65. In 32 to 36 grains yes I have sample packs for both .22 and .25 on my website www.avsslugs.com plus they are 10% discounted from eBay prices.

[@rasberryrl]

@@AirVelocitySport sweet thanks

[@robertfeddeler5508]

How about sharing things like reg adj, I'd say HS shims but you have a adj for that. Original valve with a delron poppet? etc. Oh, and forgot to say share the avg BC for each weight slug.

[@AirVelocitySport]

All that info is in my last two vids

[@unballisticr.i.pdadloveand7055]

What are the lightest grain slugs that you sell and do you ship to 🇬🇧 uk great shooting and video 👍

[@AirVelocitySport]

In .217 and .218 it's 20 grain. In 25 cal it's 28 grain. I will be offering .218 . 250 .257 .300 and .308 next as well as hybrid slugs in .217 and .218. yes, I can ship to the UK only through my website. I would need to know exact shipping weight and mailing address to give an exact shipping cost. Please contact me at [e-mail] for exact pricing.

[@ralstonraz]

What's the link to your slugs?

[@AirVelocitySport]

I sell them on eBay.com under the name AVS slugs

[@charlesleggett2546]

How would these shoot out of a Gamo gen2 Magnum .22?

[@chadglover6593]

Can you do .25 cal 34 grain cupped slugs

[@marcegrecco53]

Can I buy your slugs direct

[@AirVelocitySport]

yes, or course, send an email to [e-mail] with weight and quantity and I will send you an Invoice via Paypal

[@thomasellis8165]

Air Velocity Sport Do you have any in .25 cal

[@AirVelocitySport]

I do but they are exactly .25 in diameter and I have not tested them yet. I do not know how they will perform

[@phillipbrown3265]

Nice shooting Steve.I just bought a liberty nova very accurate with JSB 15.89 drilled out the barrel port to3/16 got the 18 grain to shoot 933 average for 10 shoots then dropped back to 912fps . I have so many questions but I’ll keep it short . I adjusted the regulator up by turning counter clockwise to 2 o’clock FPS never went up only when I adjusted the hammer spring did I see arise in the fps. What am I missing thanks.

[@AirVelocitySport]

There is a point where increasing the regulator will no longer and a benefit to FPS due to the limit of the transfer and barrel port also you have to balance the hammer Spring pressure with the regulator pressure not an exact skill but an art

[@phillipbrown3265]

Air Velocity Sport thanks for the reply.If you don’t mind and I have more questions what is the best way to ask AGN form or what ?Thank YOU .

[@AirVelocitySport]

Sorry Phillip I did not understand the question.

[@phillipbrown3265]

Air Velocity Sport is this the only place to ask you questions about the liberty nova?

[@AirVelocitySport]

Im in GTA Gateway to Airguns. My name is thebanker4. PM me there and I will get back to you.

[@Meloncholymadness]

Do you ship to the UK?

[@AirVelocitySport]

Send an email to [e-mail] with quantity and weight with PayPal shipping address. I will send you a PayPal invoice

[@Meloncholymadness]

@@AirVelocitySport Done!

[@hoikhongbietmoi]

how many is the caliber?

[@robertfeddeler5508]

Were you using the DC valve?

[@AirVelocitySport]

No, this is all stock parts that I drilled. The opened the transfer port of the valve a little to allow better air flow.

[@SalehMagrabi]

Is there a regulator in your rifle?

[@jamesbrownmiller808]

What about different caliber slugs?

[@dustinbrown9437]

Where did you buy your mold?

[@leadslingr6927]

Has anyone shot these through a kalibrgun cricket?

[@rushzeen]

can i use this slugs .22 on a spring piston air rifle.. will it be effective

[@AirVelocitySport]

The only Springer that someone told me is the Gamo Magnum. Not the Maximum. But it have not sure t experience

[@Meloncholymadness]

Can you link me to your slugs please?

[@randyperkins5063]

Looking at trying slugs in my hatsan flashpup. Any suggestions?

[@AirVelocitySport]

Try sample pack to see which length slug works best. You need to push these slugs at least 825fps to get them to stabilize. Although I have shot the .22 AVS slugs at 725 fps with good accuracy out to 75 yards. The 25 cal need more power/velocity to stabilize.

[@randyperkins5063]

@@AirVelocitySport oops I already put a order in today

[@SalehMagrabi]

Hello, first thanks for this inspiring video, but it would be mutch better if you save more mony and buy Doppler Labradar Chronograph.

[@carsmax]

guitar string works better than an axe , or fishing line :))

[@AirVelocitySport]

Thank you for that!

[@user-en9rr5ng1e]

Hello, I've been following your videos for a long time. I'm from mainland China and I'm interested in your homemade slugs, but in my country I can't buy your products directly from ebay... Could you sell me the slug mould through ebay?

[@AirVelocitySport]

Send me an email with quantity and weight. as well as your paypal mailing address and I will send you an exact invoice via Paypal

[@user-en9rr5ng1e]

Thank u for u reply, but it may also be against the law to buy your mould to my country, although the air gun I have now may be able to make me three years in prison... There are many DIY enthusiasts like me in mainland China. We're just hobbies, not criminals. But thank again for u an u video.LOL

[@chipmunkchatterfarmstead8712]

Are you going to mod out the ati nova liberty and sell the complete modded .22 package? If so how much?

[@AirVelocitySport]

No plans to do that but I have video on how to do that.

[@chipmunkchatterfarmstead8712]

Have you considered putting a walther lothar airgun barrel blank on the ati nova vista liberty?

[@AirVelocitySport]

I personally feel there is no need to. The stock barrel loves h&n barracuda pellets and my AVS slugs. I used jsb 18 and 25( at 950fps) with good results.

[@chipmunkchatterfarmstead8712]

Thanks for your knowledge

[@jennysok]

What do you think about this scope? I wanna order one.

[@AirVelocitySport]

I really like it. Clear glass and tracks well

[@jennysok]

@@AirVelocitySport if compare to same price of other scope, is it good deal?

[@AirVelocitySport]

Yes, a better deal in my opinion. $353 at Airgun optics with 10% discount code for first time order.

[@jennysok]

@@AirVelocitySport thanks so much for sharing.

[@bornagian1744]

Do u have a web site to order ur slugs.do u make them in 25

[@AirVelocitySport]

Not yet as I hand make them.

[@ashleywolff2299]

@@AirVelocitySport let us know when you have a .25!

[@AirVelocitySport]

Will do. I current have a die for .25 but have had any success with my Kral Puncher Jumbo in .25 I will be testing them in other guns.

[@fathifathi490]

Buy labradar chrony

[@AirVelocitySport]

As soon as I can afford to