Rivers in the Dessert Table | So This is Basically Persona 5, Reaction

[@rickypedia999]

You know how "this is basically" works. All of the things he says are technically true but with most of the context removed and adding in a few memes from the fandom. A more serious description of P5's plot: MC got arrested for stopping a politician from sexually assaulting a woman on the street, but politician pulled strings to make him look like the bad guy. MC ends up put on probation and sent to a new school in Tokyo. Shortly after arriving, he gains the ability to enter people's mental worlds (because plot) and uses this to essentially brainwash criminals into confessing their crimes, starting with the gym teacher who was abusing students. MC and friends (including a talking cat from the mental world) become infamous due to their method requiring a semi-public announcement of "stealing the desires" of the person they are taking down, becoming known in the news as The Phantom Thieves. Eventually they end up using a fan website their classmate/fanboy set up to begin targeting bigger criminals based on public polls. BTW, it's a great game worth streaming but if you do be ready to spend a LONG time doing so, this game is upwards of 80 hours and that's the vanilla version. The updated re-release has extra content added to the end of the main story that adds two new alternate endings depending of how far into it you decide to go (assuming you trigger the flags for it, otherwise you get the original ending).

[@tokim6903]

what do you mean trigger the flag, we just need to answer Maruki question yes and we got good enough ending, no then we beat him up and get true ending.

[@rickypedia999]

@@tokim6903 if you don't max Maruki and get Yoshizawa up to 5 before finishing the December palace, you get the vanilla game's ending after the Christmas boss. Everything starting from when Flapjack shows up in the cutscene and through January doesn't happen.

[@tokim6903]

@@rickypedia999 ohhhhh, this is new to me.

[@jmurray1110]

I disagree with the idea that they brainwash their targets It’s more like shutting off the emotion dampeners from metal gear

[@IceQueen975]

"Sketchy.... casket?" *I lost my shit laughing right then, thanks*

[@dragonoye2426]

Persona 5 is a great game, I recommend you play if on your off time, its a blast. I personally recommend Royal, it expands and is definitely the best version of P5,

[@SilverHairedFreak25]

2:05 "I thought they actually STOLE something!" I first heard of Persona through Rocher Hotel, and was tricked into thinking Persona 5 was about robbing a bank. Instead we got Codename Kids Next Door: The Anime Adaptation.

[@GradMeat]

I hate how much that comparison works.

[@mordredpendragon1235]

Why does that work

[@jakecollins5438]

Trains are in fact the main form of transportation in the Erebonian Empire, so they do play a pretty large part in the setting. Trails of Cold Steel is the third part in the Trails series. First is Trails in the Sky, which is 3 games, then you have the Crossbell duology of Trails to Zero and Trails to Azure. Trails to Azure takes place basically during the ending of the first Cold Steel game, and continues into the events of Cod Steel 2, with both their final battles happening at about the same time. So the first two games are not exactly pointless, it’s just that the plans the villains have are really long term, so it takes four games for them to do their full plans. But they do recap a lot of info about the first two in the third game.

[@Cellq7]

I couldn't say better myself but there are 4 games in Trail of Steels series

[@sj4iy]

But you don't understand what's going on if you ONLY started with the 3rd game. I know that from experience. I was completely lost.

[@Cellq7]

@@sj4iy I play all 4 games and I didn't get lost

[@sj4iy]

@@Cellq7 I said that you'd get lost if you started with the 3rd game in the series, not playing all 4 in a row.

[@Cyril86]

While Trails in the Sky is the sixth part of the Legend of Heroes series. It sure doesn't get confusing at all.

[@johnkiezulas7439]

The joke about spending 100 hours to tell how you banged the ladies sister isn't really a joke. The game can take about 100 hours for a complete playthrough and her sister (Makoto) is a party member who you can romance. Also, her personal story line has you pose as her boyfriend at one point and you need maxed Charm to progress at that point.

[@jmurray1110]

Well it friends how long you play I think it’s closer to 80/90 to get to that point At least my first play through was 92 hours and if you skip the story it can be cut to around 30

[@CGrascal]

Iwai, the guy who handed Joker a gun, is the owner of a model gun aficionado store, is a place you can sell the junk you find in palaces, buy weapons/armors/guns, and is one of the character side stories in the game.

[@doomtooth74]

6:12 Well, that isn't really polyamory, since this example was quite specifically "without telling the others", so it's cheating in this case.

[@spartanMN300]

cutscene: "WE'RE LOSING THE FIGHT! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!" me: you all literally pulled off Power Ranger style finishers and beat the boss what do you mean you are losing?!

[@frankieyuen9363]

Don't worry the series isn't 18 games it's 3 for the first arc 2 for the second 4 for cold steel + an epilogue game then the current arc at 2 games so 12. Only 12 games most of which has more text than all of the Harry Potter books combined

[@KawaiiNeko333]

Just an example… The first Trails to Zero came out for PSP in 2010. It's taken that long to finally translate each and every detail since they make the village NPCs say different things as the plot goes.

[@ClockworkRin]

You really should watch "Miles is a robot". That's all I've got.

[@nomingyu4026]

As long as he starts with Miles is on Fire! ...Which is on the Miles is a Robot playlist.

[@hkillerpr]

I say to understand persona 5 you have to play it

[@chaoticcanine]

If you’re gonna watch Miles is a Robot make sure to watch Miles is on Fire first!! It’ll make more sense in that order.

[@silverwalker4396]

When it comes to Grinding, they deffinintely made it easier in P5R (The upgraded remake)

[@jmurray1110]

Well that’s debatable since they removed the reaper exploit

[@anidiot192]

​@@jmurray1110and instead buffed instakill to be one of the best skills in the game.

[@jmurray1110]

@@anidiot192 yeah that took some time getting used to since I just assumed it worked the same way as in vanilla

[@cynicalyetfragile1909]

Hey in regards to Hunters: The Parenting. Theres another audio log out, /The Probing of Kevin/ no context will be given. Also great video! Your one of the reactors that talks about things in such depth it gives me new ideas about stuff I already thought I Know! Great work man!

[@magimagi5004]

4:58 in the game, you buy guns from him, but you need 'Guts' stat to do so. The best way to level it -- is to pass 'Eating really big burger' challenges

[@Airier]

... There's a joke in there somewhere about bigger guts from bigger Burgers. 😮

[@ShadowWolfRising]

No, he meant games. Trails of Cold Steel is 4 games in a row.

[@YooranKujara]

eating the burger gets your guts up which gets the gun guy to talk to you because you have enough guts to talk to the shady alleyway gun shop owner

[@vfaulkon]

I can confirm that burger leads to gun in P5. I won't explain how or why, but that is correct, yes.

[@jmurray1110]

Think that’s weird herbology leads to domestic abuse accusation resolutions

[@luciandrakaris6603]

Dont know if someone said it already but in the cold steel vid were even three of the actual voice actors of the game xD

[@jvgaming7348]

Trails of Cold Steel is a good game, i love it and its one of my favorite game series btw theres alot of games in the Trails Series here are the recent ones Trails in the Sky 1-3 Trails to Zero Trails to Azure Trails of Cold Steel 1-4 Trails into Reverie- Japan only until 2023 Kuro no Kiseki 1- Japan only until 2024 Kuro No Kiseki 2- Japan only until 2025 est

[@lucygirl1111]

about that sister one its kinda funny because her sister is indeed a datable option

[@nothri]

:2:12 Story synopsis- protag stops a woman from being assaulted only to be brought on charges by the highly corrupt politician doing the assaulting. He is let out on probation, and goes to a new school only to discover a mysterious way to enter a "Palace", a mental landscape superimposed on the real world by the heart of someone with highly distorted desires. After the action of one such Palace owner cause a girl in his school to attempt suicide he gathers some friends to enter the Palace and "steal the heart of the Palace owner"- basically a physical manifestation of their desires. By removing these "treasures" from a person's mind they dramatically alter a person to no longer be warped by their desires and drive criminals to confess their crimes due to the resultant feelings of guilt and loathing left behind after the theft. Most of the game is based around targetting various horrible people while trying to understand the mystery of how and why the Palaces exist.

[@weertangel7231]

I played Persona 5 Royal and its a blast, took me around 169 hours on my first playthrough(with a guide) and had a blast with it, so don't take it to seriously and remember, just living your life is grinding to, only u enjoy it. As for TocS, i have heard of the series, just have to many other games to play to really make time for it.

[@nomingyu4026]

10:50 If that ad read confuses you, you should look up Tomska's video about what Surfshark let him get away with!

[@skyknight0408]

The Trails games all take place in the same world. So the stories and characters from different subseries cross over a lot. I'm pretty new to the series but if you like JRPGs I recommend playing them, because the character development and worldbuilding captured me from the first moment! I've only played the first two Cold Steel games so far. They were basically meant to be one game, but got split up because of the gigantic size it had. So the first game starts off a bit slow and is mostly the setup and worldbuilding for the story arc that goes into full speed in the second game. Some characters and books you can read in CS1&2 mention events from the Trails in the Skies series, so it made me want to play those as well. And I want to do it before I start CS3, because I heard that you can meet characters from the older series in CS3&4(which seem to be one long story arc again) and I want to know who they are before that happens. The games have a lot of text, because all of the NPCs say new things AFTER EVERY MAJOR STORY PROGRESSION. Of course you can ignore it all and only play the mainstory, but sometimes they give you recipes or hidden sidequests and some of the rewards are really good. There are a lot of different mechanics in the games and most of their effects stack, so it is possible to build characters that can onehit bosses or evade every attack. You don't really need to grind unless you want to have more money or max out the friendship with all characters(really slow to do with battles, so I recommend just doing the friendship events for your favorite characters, which is way faster, and ignore the others because there are a LOT of characters and with every game they multiply). If you just battle the monsters that stand in your way you level up enough to fight the bosses. The EXP scale with the characterlevels, so it's not really possible to overlevel. If underlevelled, the bosses get more challenging, but if you win they give you enough EXP to catch up. I was playing on normal difficulty, but it was pretty easy for me. There are "Easy" and "Very Easy" modes(or as I call them "Game Journalist Mode"). And you are right, there are a lot of trains in the games. In the first game, it's how you get to the places where your "missions" take place. In the second half of CS2 you get an airship.

[@madmanoliver]

I think your taking some of these just a liiiitttlle too seriously lol.

[@A.Z.296]

I feel like Jello channeled his rage with Trails of Cold Steel, I could feel it when he yelled at you for missing 45 sidequests

[@akenohononiku916]

Oh yeah If you watched Trails in the Sky SC on SupriseRoundRPG Twitch, Jello explicitly states how livid he was by Trails' arbitrary quest durations

[@ydidudothistome1455]

For more jello stuff look at the let’s make a “Blank” game there is an animal crossing and a Pokémon one and there really good

[@loyalist1326]

Persona 5 is like my third favorite game

[@corryjamieson3909]

I'm surprised Jello hasn't done yet castlevania.

[@Astin-D]

If you play the legend of heroes the trail series. You gotta go all the way back to Sky which is 3 parts than Zero+Azure which is 2 parts than Cold Steel which is like 4 parts finally Reverie which acts as an epilogue to both the Crossbell and Trails of Cold Steel arcs . The story is super long and complex you can only understand everything if you play or watch it to the beginning lol.

[@OJvdH]

A few things. 1: trails of cold steel consists of 4 games and has 2 series before that trails in the sky trillogy and trails from zero and trails to azure who make up a duoligy. 2: cold steel 1 and 2 are absolutely not a wast of time. However since cold steel 3 and 4 got published by a difrent company (nis america instead of xseed games) they have no reason to advertise 1 and 2 wich is why they get shown as unnecessary(since this video is sponsord by nis america). Don't let you full your self playing cold steel 3/4 without cold steel 1 and 2 is a really bad idea! You will mis a lot of needed info and details. 3: in trails every npc has it's own story and devellopment so 5000 party members no. 120 characters with actual devellopment absolutely. But I think Cold_Steel 4 has atleast 45 party members that got develloped during the previous 8 trails games. 4: the reason you never heart of cold steel is because it's a series of jrpgs made by a realy small company (nihon falcom) they don't have there own localization departement wich is why they need to depends on companies like xseed /nisa or clouded leopard for localization in languages besides Japanese. This takes a lot of time because one trails game has around the same amount of text as all lord of the rings + the hobit + all harry potter books combined. That makes it not suprising that localising trails games takes general around 3 years per game.

[@Banchoking]

To clarify, what they do isn't mind control. They strip away the delusions that people use to convince themselves that what they're doing is justified. Once that's gone they're forced to see their actions objectively and are filled with regret.

[@mordredpendragon1235]

Yes definitely not mind control in a certain way

[@Kingjder02]

I can tell you that the Cold Steel one is absolutely accurate. I started to TRY and stream all of the Cold Steel games ALL OF THEM. HaHaHaHa I need halp. And sorry *TOCS one spoiler* pissed me off because it felt like an analog for the start of World War I. I absolutely hope I'm using that right.

[@lestat4440]

Yep... It is... And it almost does this...

[@Kingjder02]

I need help with that..... I think I have a problem

[@teddy_scott36]

It doesn’t really matter since he’s not going to be making any more of these but the thing about Jello’s videos is that roughly 70% of what he says is true. So if he says something or shows something it’s likely that it actually happens

[@ForsakenEve88]

I was wondering when you would watch the trails one, the trails franchise has very good music too. God i love the series. :)

[@melodyturner3604]

3:01 did he just call it a show

[@masterninjamt6497]

I’ve played persona 5 and for gods sake play it it’s amazing

[@RoyalSorceress]

Please watch Jelloapocalypse's video about the Scooby-Doo movies.

[@sj4iy]

Trails of Cold Steel is a mini series within a LARGER series called Legend of Heroes which has multiple series (trails in the sky, azure/zero, cold steel and kuro no kiseki). It does have a large cast of people and honeslty, I love the entire series. It's different from other games as the storylines are consecutive and not episodic. The characters grow up over the course of each of the series. And yes, the tutorial sewers and HUGE plot twists are a thing. But there is more than sewers, you get the explore the entire continent over time. Characters from previous series come and go, as it all takes place over a short timeline. The plot twists are huge and keep you coming back but I think that's the best part. Obviously, this is a parody, so I won't nitpick, but I do agree that the first game definitely is lacking in plot until the very end. But there are 5 games in the Cold Trails series. They are all JRPGs and they are long. I think the 2nd, 3rd and 4th games are the best. I haven't played the 5th because it DOES take absolutely forever for them to get dubbed in English. In fact, there are older Legend of Heroes games that are finally being profesionally dubbed but AFTER Cold Steel. The "you won but didn't win" trope gets really bad in Game 2. Many of the sidequests, AP, fishing, recipes..thats optional. You don't have to do them, and I didn't bother with them the first time around. Fun fact: The voice of Rean Schwarzer (the main character) in this parody is the actual voice in the game series. So are the voices for Altina and Machias. No, Rean is not an Ogre. That is not the twist. And yes, this series has Mechs. It's awesome. Also you SHOULD NOT start with the 3rd game. You would be completely lost. I did that and it did not work out. You really do need to play them all to understand, it's a consecutive series. Or at least, watch a video synopsis of game 1 and start with game 2.

[@lestat4440]

Going into forth game you actually need to know other games? or at least plot) Steel 4 is a converging point of all of them after all)

[@sj4iy]

​@@lestat4440 Yes. Or you'll be completely lost. Honestly, I think the 1st game isn't completely necessary although I do recommend playing it. Or at least watching a very good synopsis. But I don't agree that 2 is useless (in fact I think it's one of the best games). I don't think you need to play Sky or Azure to understand it, but it's just helpful for context.

[@lestat4440]

@@sj4iy First basically is a VERY long prologe.

[@Erick.Peixoto]

mfw i watch a comedic parody video and take everything at face value and treat it as a fact

[@b3rz3rk3r9]

If you like the P5 soundtrack, check out the anime's soundtrack. Sure, the show's a snoozefest, but the... well, first season's opener and ending song are actually better than the game's opening song.

[@altarudragonspirit4016]

If you are going to watch 'Miles is a Robot' at some point, you have to watch 'Miles is on Fire' first, because they are playing Ace Attorney Investigations 1 and 2 in those series and the robot one is them playing the sequel. Also, the whole thing of you losing the battle even if you beat the boss without taking damage isn't because Coldsteel is a broken game, that's just a thing that some JRPG's do where they retcon your victory to show you how powerful an enemy is, like in KH1 where you can defeat Leon when you first encounter him, but Sora still passes out afterwards. Then again I've never played Coldsteel so I can't actually speak for how broken or not the game is :P

[@kjriwoutube]

Jello just made the last So this is basicly on genshin impact

[@RigidRat]

You should react to those Every Movie in 10 Words or Less videos that he did.

[@sionedslee2259]

You should really play Persona 5 Royal! It's one of my favourite games of all time and I would love to see your reaction to it! Also, the Phantom Thieves do actually steal stuff. They steal stuff from the dungeons and when when they say they'll "steal your heart" they mean it literally. They steal the distorted desires of criminals and abusers to give them clarity and 'change their heart' and a boss battle is usually involved. The morally grey stuff comes from how a lot of people see this as brainwashing. So you weren't wrong about them stealing stuff. If you're worried about grinding, don't be. In my experience, you don't have to unless you want to. I reached the maximum level without trying while wrapping up the last few sidequests/Requests right before the final boss and if I struggled in battle, I didn't struggle because of my level. I only grinded twice throughout the whole approximately 120 hours playthrough and that's because I wanted to. (Once at the start of the game to get an ability I wanted for the first boss battle and once near the middle to get materials to craft a really good item as soon as it was available. It wouldn't have affected my playthrough much if I skipped these grinding sessions.) Just don't run from every enemy and you'll be fine. The game is more about time management anyway and with how many save files you're given, you can easily just save before doing an action you're not sure about and load your file if you regret it. Because of this, grinding your social stats (the stank stats you were concerned over) doesn't feel like grinding and you get funny scenes while doing it too! Also, the game will tell you if you can't do something because your social stats aren't high enough and wont waste your in-game time in the process. The worst thing you can lose is a funny dialogue option. So yeah, play Persona 5 Royal, even in just your free time if you don't want to stream it. I highly recommend this game and from what I've seen of your tastes, I think you'd really like it!

[@bussing666]

so i played the first Trails of Cold Steel and I enjoyed it allot just haven't had the money to buy the other games in temers of grinding I didn't have to and I went through it fine

[@OJvdH]

Can confirm grinding is not necessary.

[@alzhanvoid]

Airy, I think you should know by now that if Jello says something you are not sure is a joke, it isn't. Jello doesn't really lie in his videos. Exaggerates sure, but almost EVERYTHING he says is LITERALLY true. Just don't question, you'll be right on the money 99% of the time.

[@YaoiFan22]

1:33 I assume stopping that politician from attacking that girl. Though I have only watched the anime. 2:59 That might be his alternate personality in his mind. Please, watch Persona. Jello is far more accurate than you stumbling around saying things that you thought was the case. 3:22 Yes, you're extremely right. 4:59 Is that the guy he bought a gun from in the anime? 6:49 She conducts studies on him in the anime for a reason I can't remember anymore. Unless it's for information. 6:49 No! No he is not. He is horrible. He should not have been a teacher. 13:45 Yes? I don't think the MC was bullied anywhere. And their students like them. 21:39 Unknown if his father is Human or not. I'm wondering how a ruthlessly cruel person is the reincarnation of a kind king that cares about his people and not power.

[@electrichawk3580]

Please watch epithet erased Beetlejuice cover a beautiful song

[@TheGameDomeGuy]

there's only 4 trails of cold steel

[@OJvdH]

Plus trails in the sky trilogy and trails from zero to azure. Also trails in to reverie and what ever kuro will be called in English (wich also allready gets a sequel in japan)

[@tokim6903]

just so you know trail of cold steel is just a part of Kiseki series and how did it survive? JP player and their gigantic pocket I guessit's huge and like some dc tv series bs, because if you want to understand what happened in trail of cold steel you need to play trail of the sky first

[@KillerViper8]

Satire like this is not recommended for someone that hadn't first played Persona 5. You greatly misunderstand the game in its entirety if you judge/form opinions based off loose jokes like the ones in the video. I don't want to sound like one of those overzealous fans, but Persona is seriously one of those series you have to experience on your own.

[@jvts8916]

I've finished Cold Steel 3 and 4. There's a few things in the games that would've annoyed me if it weren't for the execution. The games don't have a single party member that is there the whole game... but as a result they teach you to experiment with everyone. As for the forced loss battles that Jello mocked, clearly the dev team knew how aggravating it would be to have all the crucial battles be scripted because they add achievements for you to do during the fights and earn some bonus points so you can at least be motivated to press on. Sadly, there are two things that are as dumb as they sound in the video. Firstly, the permanently missable quests. I already hate the time management in Persona, but the Cold Steel games take things one step further by making it completely impossible to get all not-social links in one playthrough, just to give one example of how completing them can feel. My only other gripe was that one card battle from Cold Steel 3. After having beating the opponent shown in the video, he gives you the information he promised, leaves and your allies notice that he had a perfect deck and just let you win/went easy on you. Rean in the video really summarized my feelings on the situation.

[@Narinjas]

\hi/

[@Airier]

\sup/

[@TheeGlobFather]

you really should play P5 if you haven't. it's fun.

[@Ren_kurogane_CK]

My former favorite game… until a bad relationship made it a game I couldn’t play.

[@Airier]

I'm sorry you had that experience. I know I don't understand your situation, so anything I say would ring as less than informed, but for what it's worth, I hope you're able to find a new game to replace it.

[@Ren_kurogane_CK]

@@Airier to be honest I already have, dmc 5

[@Airier]

A good choice. 😊👍

[@Ren_kurogane_CK]

It also doesn’t help that I played royal like 6 times in two months back when quarantine was at its peak