Even upside down in the snow, you nailed the shutoff procedure instinctively! Good pilot right there.
@j.elliottcole950611 ай бұрын
Gotta love that muscle memory on shutdown sequence! Nice work.
@aviatordude19612 жыл бұрын
People commenting he should have landed on the road probobly aren't pilots. There are several reasons not to land on a road when you have a field to choose from. A few being, cars, telephone poles and wires. A Kit Fox stall airspeed is around 28 kts or 32 mph so if he 's landing into the wind his ground speed is even less. He knows he's propably going flip over but who cares at that low speed. Once your plane is a glider it belongs to the insurance company and your goal is to protect yourself and others on the ground. Great decision making skills!
@bro9479 Жыл бұрын
Fields are good in the summer, but roads are better in the winter. Most pilots, myself included, would go for a road all day long if at all possible. It's going to be much harder to get assistance or rescue in the middle of a snowy field. Flipping, even at that speed, can easily knock you unconscious or cause concussions or injury. Help will come much faster if you're on the road, regardless of whether or not you're injured. In addition, roads are usually cleared of snow and landing is much safer. Like you said, the Kit Fox can land slow and short enough that just a small section of straight road will be sufficient. Cars will move. Yeah, watch out for power lines but just find a road without them. If you can't at least try to land as close to the road as possible.
@billyjack3361 Жыл бұрын
I’m a pilot and I chose a road in winter, like the one in this video, any day.
@jaboi990011 ай бұрын
I’m a veteran pilot. I’ll always take a road over a field in an emergency situation. At least the road surface is more predictable
@Ezonial10 ай бұрын
A pilot near me chose the road a few days ago and a car ran into the plane during landing... not a good outcome for the pilot...
@bro947910 ай бұрын
@@Ezonial nothing is without risks but I'd rather risk getting hit by a car than flipping in a field in winter conditions where my rescue is going to be much harder.
@86BBUB2 жыл бұрын
Never leave home without being prepared to be forced into the weather. True in cars and planes. Glad you had an OK landing.
@MoonRambo7022 жыл бұрын
And motorcycles, Dress for the slide..
@moteroargentino79442 жыл бұрын
@Moon Rambo ...not for the ride. Well, unlike cars we have very limited space to carry things around, but I always check and double check the weather report. If there's even the slightest chance that I may encounter bad weather then I grab extra gear. True for being on foot too.
@MoonRambo7022 жыл бұрын
@@moteroargentino7944 for sure, my survival kit is my passenger. I could land most anywhere and be ok for a week.
@jfurey50682 жыл бұрын
Exactly - I always tell my kids, dress like you're going to be outdoors for at least an hour. Then if you crash and are unconscious you won't die of hyperthermia before you awake. Tennis shoes and jeans won't cut it in any remote area.
@GeorgiaNFA2 жыл бұрын
Very unfortunate. Always hard to tell the depth of the snow. Glad you were not seriously injured and I am sure she will fly again!
@jonascarlsson12902 жыл бұрын
All things considered, I'd say rather fortunate. The important things went well, and the pilot walked away, hopefully without frostbite. Well done, pilot! I assume the appearent radio silence was due to being edited out.
@ParadigmUnkn0wn2 жыл бұрын
@@jonascarlsson1290 no, this nincompoop made no radio calls. He also apparently expected to just drop down onto fresh, deep snow without skis. Admittedly I've never done it, but I've heard of bush pilots "skimming" the surface on something between a low approach and a touch n' go. Not a full touch, but a light skim while keeping enough energy to keep the wing flying and get back in the air expeditiously.
@kymidnight2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadigmUnkn0wn You can clearly see him talking on the radio when the audio cuts out. I also don't think he expected to put it down in the snow, but that was his list of options.
@mafia73782 жыл бұрын
Naa that's a plane you scrap and never touch again.
@Objectified2 жыл бұрын
@@ParadigmUnkn0wn "Admittedly, I don't know what I'm talking about but I'm going to criticize anyway."
@BobSchmidty2 жыл бұрын
Glad you're OK. Looked like a great approach. Crazy how fast the snow grabbed the plane.
@JDashRider2 жыл бұрын
He doesn't care. Sucky landings get more clicks.
@Glen.Danielsen2 жыл бұрын
Yah Capt, needs skids. 💛🙏🏼
@paddington16702 жыл бұрын
@@JDashRider ah yes, the 300k views will surely turn him a profit.
@SerenityMae112 жыл бұрын
@@paddington1670 Lol
@SoloRenegade2 жыл бұрын
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you.
@rronmar2 жыл бұрын
One of my best flight lessons didn’t involve an airplane. It was a road trip to various places that we had flown over previously and even did approaches on… what often looks like a good place to land isn’t always the best choice.
@Goldfinger1402 жыл бұрын
I nearly landed a glider on a 30° sideward slope. It looked perfect from above. By chance, this „field“ was next to the road I used to use to get to the airfield, so I knew it was a hill not a field. Seldom you have the chance to see a field before you have to use it. It might be a good idea, though, to check the fields around your airfield.
@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the ground is best place to land😂
@martinsaunders79252 жыл бұрын
Not a psycho? Beats a hole in the ice.
@WingoverVideos2 жыл бұрын
We did this when Paragliding, on the way to the flying site we would check out possible emergency landing areas. Checking for power lines or trees that might cause rotor.
@PatrickJWenzel2 жыл бұрын
You really hit the nail on the head there! Had the same kinda journey and couldn’t agree more!
@ruthmoreton69752 жыл бұрын
Props for the immediate switch off on the electrics. Really happy you were not badly injured ( at all? ) Little plane is robust and appeared to protect you well. Cold though! Hope you didn't have to wait long for assistance.
@bezet44482 жыл бұрын
Amazing that he remember to turn it off before exiting
@robertgary35612 жыл бұрын
Seems like he somehow killed the Elt too though.
@911Locksmiths2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly and its been 15 yrs since my last flight, but the master switch and fuel should be turned off before ditching,
@richarddixon1462 жыл бұрын
@@robertgary3561 i think he cut off mic recording
@robertgary35612 жыл бұрын
@@richarddixon146 that sounded like the sweep of an Elt that stopped.
@aciagriculturalconstructio22642 жыл бұрын
I feel for you. Been there done that! See lots of KZbinrs playing in the snow. It's not worth it. When the snow grabs you there's no reaction fast enough or plane powerful enough to get out of the situation.
@cloudpandarism26272 жыл бұрын
J.A.T.O. rocket: "hold my beer..."
@pimuce2 жыл бұрын
It’s ok for u man ?
@brady81032 жыл бұрын
Mike mateys scrappy :) that thing could power out of a stall
@cloudpandarism26272 жыл бұрын
@@brady8103 he could hang that thing from the bar 🤣
@jeremyberry94222 жыл бұрын
@@cloudpandarism2627 nah....that would just bury you deeper
@tomclaytor Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Curious what size tires you had on. Sometimes, if able, it helps to overfly first with power and speed to tap your mains on the surface and feel how soft it is. You can also get an idea of how deep it is too. Good job.
@jensongainer36965 ай бұрын
Looked as good as it could get to me. I enjoy seeing these guys do a good job. For the guys that always have 14 better ideas it’s a different feeling when something goes wrong at anything over about 40’ AGL than it may seem. I know this from experience not just watching. You start thinking and breathing differently really really quick. Takes a lot of will to stick with what is right and make it out of even a minor emergency. Great job
@scbane2 жыл бұрын
For winter flying in snow areas, seems that skis may be cheaper than repairs .
@SQRL_TAC2 жыл бұрын
Ski's are for snow though, right?
@mattpierson62062 жыл бұрын
i dont think he was planning on landing on the snow lol
@SoloRenegade2 жыл бұрын
@@mattpierson6206 yet he tried to land in the snow, obviously. it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you. best thing you can do is do a full stall landing, minimum possible airspeed before touching the snow, carry as little energy as you can when breaking through that crusty layer. Always assume there is a crusty layer.
@neilis24054 ай бұрын
@@SoloRenegade He tried landing on the snow because he had engine trouble and the plane was coming down SOMEWHERE. The snow is better than the trees.
@SoloRenegade4 ай бұрын
@@neilis2405 Not necessarily. Snow can be worse than trees, depending upon the snow type, what's below the snow, and what kind of trees we're talking about. I fly in some of the most heavily forested and cold snowy regions in the US. Even guys trying to land on snow intentionally here (snow skies, packed snow runways, ice runways, etc.) have flipped their planes on landing.
@MystikalDawn2 жыл бұрын
Difficult to tell your exact altitude from the snow if there's nothing to see for reference, just looks like an endless sea of white which might be 10 feet or only 2 feet away. On a sunny day you might be able to see your shadow if your flying the right way of course. Not saying this is what happened here, just pointing something out.
@frankiewinters12552 жыл бұрын
Well .... you survived it .... that's all that matters at the end of the day. You stayed calm and made a good landing considering the circumstances!
@daviddowd37642 жыл бұрын
Great job young man, snow is a unknown landing point, you have know idea how deep it is or what's under it, just glad you lived to fly again! Some don't.
@SoloRenegade2 жыл бұрын
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what really gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you. And snow hides stuff.
@RobHolmes82 жыл бұрын
Glad you're ok 🙌 hope the Kitfox can be repaired and the engine is ok 🙏
@abovesummit51162 жыл бұрын
Engine is fine. The fox has been rebuilt. I an the process of assembly now. Thank you.
@taproom1132 жыл бұрын
@@abovesummit5116 Great news. That which does not kill us ... ... ... ^v^
@sigbauer97822 жыл бұрын
@@taproom113 does not apply to strokes and cancer...
@taproom1132 жыл бұрын
@@sigbauer9782 Enduring CHF, TIA'a and BHP ... tell me about it ! ;-) ^v^
@fiat.freakx192 жыл бұрын
@@abovesummit5116 Glad to hear!!! I’m always watching Trent Palmer with his Kit Fix. Did you have bush tires which probably wouldn’t have mattered?? Safe flying again!!!!
@GaragebandandBeyond2 жыл бұрын
Glad you're safe! Looks like a terrifying experience. Out of curiosity, why didn't you choose the plowed road?
@sethking54212 жыл бұрын
probably possible powerlines, wouldve been much worse
@fractuss2 жыл бұрын
@@sethking5421 Easier to clip a tree as well. It looks super narrow.
@davepalmer89252 жыл бұрын
My instructor once told me any landing i can walk away from is a good landing , any landing i can use the plane again is an excellent landing. Looks like a good landing to me
@FlyingDarkLord2 жыл бұрын
So true! 👍🏼
@CaptainRon19132 жыл бұрын
I hate that analogy. A good landing is one where you don't crash or damage the airplane, and that landing sucked big time
@59thfsaviation792 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainRon1913 I despise this saying. It's so played out and the fact that people are still saying it is ridiculous.
@konanoobiemaster2 жыл бұрын
1:55 "Post-crash checklist complete."
@AkPacerPilot2 жыл бұрын
Snow + wheels is bad combo. Depending on snow consistency (wet, hard, soft) as little as 2” can flip a plane or you could getaway with as much as 6”. Skis are a hoot! Get yourself some skis!!! Glad it appears no physical injury!
@srscott102 жыл бұрын
The same thing happened to me in a Bellanca Scout. I chose to land on the road, not the snow covered field. No damage to my plane.
@headdown12 жыл бұрын
This ended exactly as expected while trying to land in a snowy field. Easy to say from here, but why did he choose to land in snow? Of course he will flip over.
@abandonedaccount1232 жыл бұрын
@@headdown1 he probably didn't have enough airspeed and altitude to make a tight turn to the left/right to line up, and even then he could have probably come in on an angle and slid off the road. also, trees
@headdown12 жыл бұрын
@@abandonedaccount123 He was at a reasonably high altitude when he crossed the highway, and had plenty of time to turn right or left to line up on it. If he is capable of landing on a runway without coming in on an angle then the highway should be no different. But it is very easy to be an armchair pilot and speculate like I am doing. He may have had good reasons for doing what he did. They just aren't clear to me.
@KnightDriveTV2 жыл бұрын
Did I see a many mile long paved road? Wires I assume?
@markcourtney7251 Жыл бұрын
Well done! Love the speed you switching things off and exited the aircraft!
@ErikNovikoff2 жыл бұрын
Glad your Ok, great slip to land, nothing you could do about the depth of the snow causing the flip. Hope you get her back in the air soon.
@jemo_hack2 жыл бұрын
Glad you made it unscathed from that one. Would not dare to comment on the event as I-m sure you will have plenty of details that are unseen… best of luck getting it up and flying ASAP.
@depressedcowboy35282 жыл бұрын
Was this re uploaded? Could a swore I seen it before. It says Mar 14 2022 though. Kitfox landing in snow flipping over with the loud beeps.
@FrontPlayer012 жыл бұрын
Did you slip the plane prior to touch down? I assume that might caused the flip over when the wheels made contact with the snow as they were not straight to your flying direction
@SoloRenegade2 жыл бұрын
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you. best thing you can do is do a full stall landing, minimum possible airspeed before touching the snow, carry as little energy as you can when breaking through that crusty layer. Always assume there is a crusty layer.
@flymrd2 жыл бұрын
were there skis on the airplane?
@billbrisson2 жыл бұрын
That's why I always have my winter boots with me when I fly in winter.... gonna be a tough slog wearing those shoes!
@jasonturner02832 жыл бұрын
What was the context if I may ask? Was this just a bush landing or forced landing? I thought they were going to clip the last fence line. Which made me think forced landing short...
@scotabot78262 жыл бұрын
Were you purposly landing there, or did you loose power? Glad your ok and rebuilding?
@duanejohnson62712 жыл бұрын
I had a forced landing in a Kitfox as well. Broken left landing gear and left wingtip damage. Very lucky indeed!
@AnthroCryptoDoc2 жыл бұрын
So sorry for you, nice quick reactions to power down and get out. I know it doesn't help but any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.
@omgitspylot44112 жыл бұрын
Great reaction to power everything down before exiting the aircraft, glad you’re okay!
@colinwallace52862 жыл бұрын
Wow!! The electrical on that plane could have used a going over. Radios must have been noisy. Did you hear the ELT going off?
@BlueMax3332 жыл бұрын
will you be fitting big fat tyres or preferably skis next time?
@buzzbombkirk2 жыл бұрын
Dude. That sucks. I'm so glad you're alive, though.
@computerbob062 жыл бұрын
Credit where its due......... Not jumping out when miles up!
@cloudpandarism26272 жыл бұрын
lel... could have ditched it with parachute and fire extinguishers strapped to his calfs... no? 🤣
@ColinWatters2 жыл бұрын
He couldn't jump out, he'd forgotten to strap on the fire extinguishers and only had one GoPro.
@cloudpandarism26272 жыл бұрын
@@ColinWatters you right. my bad. what was i thinking... ugh. only 1 gopro. what a noob
@piloto34HD2 жыл бұрын
Hey at least you know the ELT works! Glad you’re safe!
@gord10112 жыл бұрын
Worked for a solid 1.5 seconds!
@Привид_Бандери2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to go ahead and assume all the blanks were of colourful language... Glad he lived to share with us this experience.
@hogey742 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading. Makes me wonder about glass water landings in seaplanes - how you have to set up an attitude and just let her land.
@Austinmediainc2 жыл бұрын
Great job man, very scary. Where did this take place? Not to armchair quarterback but to ask your opinion, was there anything different you would have done? I saw a road as soon as your engine lost power but it happened so fast were you just looking for a nice open area to put her down? Would really help everyone else to understand your thinking incase this were to ever happen to any of us. Perhaps another video walk through of what your thinking through the flight. Again, awesome job, it all happens so fast. You have way less than time than I think we always think we have.
@grantremington34392 жыл бұрын
Excellent way to ask this. Most likely he just wanted to assure he wouldn’t hit any cars and when your mind is racing it’s probably practical to put it i back big field, you are still right tho
@captaindunsel28062 жыл бұрын
He didn't lose power. He was landing. He just stuck his gear in the snow and flipped over.
@UrMomGoes2College2 жыл бұрын
You are perhaps the nicest guy on KZbin
@krzysztofbroda53762 жыл бұрын
@@captaindunsel2806 it does sound like his engine cut out and he was trying to restart it
@themaddestbomber2 жыл бұрын
@@captaindunsel2806 yeah he definitely had power the whole time
@epicaviationofficial7 күн бұрын
A scary moment but glad to see you got out unscathed. May I feature this on my channel? I will link to your original video of course! Cheers
@andreask93822 жыл бұрын
Everyone seems to assume this was a forced landing caused by engine trouble. Could OP please confirm that this wasn’t just a mishap on a (badly) planned off-field landing attempt?
@VictoryAviation2 жыл бұрын
OP states in a reply below that the engine was fine. Not sure the context of the off field landing.
@TM-5292 жыл бұрын
All i see is a terrible unstable approach, hitting the ground while banking left and sideslipping - not even a proper flare. But yes...he did great on power everything off before exited the airplane!
@DanFrederiksen2 жыл бұрын
did the engine quit? or just bad landing? why did it flip over? deep snow? it looked like you were crabbing too
@GreenTekHaus2 жыл бұрын
Ouchy! Hope you're alright! Hope your plane is okay. Looking forward to seeing you fly again!🇺🇲
@MarekMarciniak2 жыл бұрын
Plane is definitely not ok
@janaburritt69392 жыл бұрын
Oh that had to hurt some. Glad you are still here
@markelliott69872 жыл бұрын
Why some much adverse yaw at 1:41?
@kiwi64442 жыл бұрын
Whats up with the on and off sound effects?
@DocIlpalazzo9 ай бұрын
Was that some sort of crash alarm at the end?
@vne51952 жыл бұрын
Wrong clothes for winter flying~ Glad to see you jump out so quick. Keep flying~
@orbitalpotato99402 жыл бұрын
1:35 Was that a side/forward slip?
@haskellcrow35242 жыл бұрын
How bad was the walk?
@rolandsteadham112 жыл бұрын
Were you having engine trouble forcing the landing? Or, was there more snow than you thought causing the plane to flip?
@gonflying2 жыл бұрын
Looks like he tried to wheel land it in the snow. Just like touching down on water with your wheels down in an Anphib... instant trip over!
@mlester3001 Жыл бұрын
Did you have skis on the plane?
@marcel14162 жыл бұрын
Pilots always talk about the bad depth perception with water, especially at night. But I never heard the topic of depth perception being brought up with snow... Is that a legitimate concern? I'm not a pilot, but I would imagine it to be tricky.... I'm glad he didn't crash into that ground vehicle at 1:49 - maybe he used that as a reference point for depth perception, because it looked like he aimed straight for that vehicle at the end - might have been just a (scary) coincidence though....
@programmer5552 жыл бұрын
Yup! Plus in these overcast conditions, he would have had flat light. Ain't no way in heck you'd ever be able to accurately judge it. Some people I fly with will carry bags of colored chalk or smoke bombs or something and drop them over the landing area to provide that depth perception.
@ATP3602 жыл бұрын
Was he yawing right before crashing? Cross wind?
@realestateunplugged61292 жыл бұрын
was that a rudder control fail that swung the tail abruptly towards the crash landing? Glad you made it okay and even your bird is probably okay minus some repair.
@SoloRenegade2 жыл бұрын
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you. best thing you can do is do a full stall landing, minimum possible airspeed before touching the snow, carry as little energy as you can when breaking through that crusty layer. Always assume there is a crusty layer.
@realestateunplugged61292 жыл бұрын
@@SoloRenegade Thanks for sharing! Makes sense 👍
@Stack1512 жыл бұрын
Glad you were ok! You definitely had a great sense to power everything down, then get out. What do you think the cause was - snow deeper or crustier than expected, or rate of descent? I've never landed in snow, so I'm trying to understand the conditions. Could have been much worse, so hopefully the kit fox will be flying again!
@grandenauto32142 жыл бұрын
It was hard to tell from video… but lighting conditions were(looked) poor, no definition between snow…drift or powder or hard pack. Looked like tire dug into softer drift or deep snow…. That’s all it takes. Even going across a lake on a snowmobile it’s hard to tell conditions with these lighting conditions
@DewmOnline2 жыл бұрын
@@grandenauto3214 as someone from Alaska, snow blindness is a real thing. Been snowmaching up in the mountains and its sometimes hard to tell the difference between a small 1ft bump and a 15ft wall.
@flightographist2 жыл бұрын
@@grandenauto3214 The conditions were visible, especially near touch down when he passed that log, you could see it was soft conditions.
@MsSugercrisp2 жыл бұрын
dumb question what you think the speed was when he crashes, I say about 60 mph or less?
@sigbauer97822 жыл бұрын
I guess those roads were unavailable?
@huckleberry80792 жыл бұрын
Slipping upon landing and skis caught?
@sooocheesy2 жыл бұрын
Why the hell did you bank left at the last moment? Maybe I'm missing something but it seemed to cause the rollover.
@fridamartextiles2 жыл бұрын
Wow, excellent presence of mind to check engine controls and unbuckle for a quick exit. Bummer about the incident.
@timmholzhauer33422 жыл бұрын
Glad you’re ok!! Would you mind to share what happened?
@19krpm2 жыл бұрын
Valves on the rotax?
@flightmode254Ай бұрын
Can I feature this clip in my project with credit? Thanks!
@abovesummit5116Ай бұрын
@flightmode254 what kind of project you have going on?
@derekdrever34702 жыл бұрын
Good job getting it down as good as you did. This can happen in summer too when landing in crop land. Sometimes the ground is much softer than expected and has same effect.
@SoloRenegade2 жыл бұрын
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you.
@derekdrever34702 жыл бұрын
@@SoloRenegade even powder can flip a plane if there’s enough of it. Foot and a half and a kitfox wouldn’t stand a chance
@davidwheatcroft27972 жыл бұрын
WHY did you close the throttle?
@whereisthehook2 жыл бұрын
Why'd you slip so much just to barely clear the trees and then failed to hold the plane off the snow in flare?
@nikhayes33962 жыл бұрын
how deep was it? did you have skies?
@mitchgingras38999 ай бұрын
It actually seemed like he was fighting a cross wind. That close to the ground should have told him his wind was wrong without a wind sock or flag. Going around once or twice to see when neutral rudders were good, then flat into the wind before touchdown and allowing for a last 5secs full flaps with harder nose down, and an incredibly low-Speed into soft snow, might have saved plane and pilot damage.
@ryankr8ch2 жыл бұрын
Does there really need to be audible alarm that your airplane crashed? I don't think you need an alarm for that...
@srnunan4783 Жыл бұрын
What was the reason for making that emergency landing? Engine was still running!
@MekStark19802 жыл бұрын
the way you switch off power at the end -wow
@KoreyConstable2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why slow planes make safer planes. Yes you crashed, but you walked away and the channel is off to a great start!
@nhflyguy2 жыл бұрын
Glad you're ok! Was this an engine failure?
@WhereNerdyisCool2 жыл бұрын
You certainly aren't dressed to survive in those conditions (no boots?) Just wondering about all the yaw, you couldn't point her into the wind for that landing approach? Glad you are safe....much to learn from this
@logankistler2 жыл бұрын
you ever fly one of these older kitfoxes? Impossible to fit much besides running shoes into the pedal area if you're anything larger than a 12 year old
@WhereNerdyisCool2 жыл бұрын
@@logankistler interesting. No, most of my PIC time is C172 and PA28
@wooburnaviation2 жыл бұрын
@@logankistler And you want a light touch on the pedals; everytime the power is adjusted or airspeed changes the rudder needs a tweak. It's a bit of a dance.
@alk6722 жыл бұрын
I'm very confused. Was that a forced landing? If so, why were you slipping? If not, was the airplane on skis?.. Why were you trying to turn close to the ground? A brief comment would help.
@powersurge912 жыл бұрын
Honestly, he pulled a normal field landing instead of a snow landing. the best thing to try and do is to use flaps, stall the landing and drop from a flare and get as close to a 3 point landing as possible. keep that nose high as possible and hope you don't catch the edge of some compacted snow.
@pi.actual2 жыл бұрын
Not enough info to judge but assuming you were on skis and just planned to land in that open field you need some training. You can't just land in a featureless snow covered field like that, you have zero depth perception and no idea of the snow condition. It's the same as a glassy water landing on floats, you need a reference. Carry some pine tree branches or colored rags and drop them along your intended landing spot then make a second pass with power and test the snow by dragging the skis which gives you a further visual reference. You never just go into a field like that and land straight off. Even doing it right there is still a chance you'll get stuck and not be able to take off again. Like I said, get some training, read some books.
@williammickelson4032 жыл бұрын
Bro just crashed his plane. Chill
@docholiday77582 жыл бұрын
@@williammickelson403 Flying airplanes is a really easy way to die if one doesn’t exercise good judgement. If this was not an emergency, there’s a lot of questions needing answering. As a pilot myself, I agree with pi.
@jaromirlatal1772 жыл бұрын
@@docholiday7758 not a pilot, but pi mentions "make a second pass with power" when the engine cut off
@zach5072 жыл бұрын
Glad you're alright man. Thank you for sharing
@ToyKingWonder2 жыл бұрын
What strikes me about this most is not the crash, but the importance of knowing completely the terrain you are flying over--and then still not really knowing. I looked at this and wondered, is that snow all on land and not lakes or water? What is under the snow? How thick is the snow? From any height shown it was impossible to answer those questions. There was no "land" or even unused streets visible. Awful situation. Glad it was over so quickly and without apparent injury. Imagine if that had tumbled into pond or something!
@chrisw70172 жыл бұрын
Good job landing. You got as slow as you could
@russchadwell2 жыл бұрын
Okay. Totally goofy question coming from me: From this angle, I can basically see no superstructure connecting the left wing to the right. It's as though the base of each wing just connects to the outerside shell of the cockpit (skin?) and that's good enough. Somehow, even though it obviously works, it just doesn't seem strong enough. I'd have expected to see lightweight I-beam type structures running straight through the ceiling of the cockpit, going on out to and through the core of each wing. But, nope! How can planes do looping maneuvers with the wings just connected to the skin surface of the plane? Mind blown.
@coben95662 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t need to be extremely strong as the NE speed (never exceed) on these planes is fairly low. I’m not totally sure what the structure is called on these. But, aerobatic planes usually have different structures, you get monocoque, semi monocoque and some others I can’t remember but all the loads are calculated and monocoque designs have all the weight transferred into the skin surrounding the plane so it’s not as harsh as you would think!
@russchadwell2 жыл бұрын
@@coben9566 amazing! Mind blown
@jbonewitz2 жыл бұрын
Okay, unless it’s a cantilevered wing, such as the Cessna 210, or Cardinal, whose wing spar travels through the top of the fuselage, virtually all high wing airplanes are built this way. The load is shared with the wing strut, and the triangular brace is extremely strong.
@calvinnickel99952 жыл бұрын
Theres no spar carry thru because the wings are strutted. On a cantilever wing, the centre section has to transfer all of the lifting load to the fuselage, plus the bending force of the wing. In a strutted design the lifting force is split between the wing struts and the wing root attach.. and the bending force is just compression at the top (the one sideways tube at the front and one that the camera is probably mounted on at the back) and tension on the struts (which is far greater) that passes through the floor structure. It makes for a lot lighter structure compared to cantilever, but at the expense of drag. The rest of the tubes in the ceiling are to keep it true.
@russchadwell2 жыл бұрын
@@calvinnickel9995 can these do outside loops? Especially carrying through at the lower end of the outside loop? Admittedly an extremely example. But, I am trying to change the direction of tension on that setup. In order to see how strong that is, I guess.
@chitstirer12 жыл бұрын
pretty sure this video was from a few years back? i know ive seen it before this is just a re upload of it
@mohammedgt81022 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I noticed there was a road below you. Why didn't you land there?
@marcm42682 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you able to walk free of the crash. Does the FAA make you keep snow shows under the seat next to your life raft? Give us a walk through the event please.
@simonnomis53022 жыл бұрын
well done mate you are alive...but i see a lot of mistakes here...anyway you are alive and thats the first thing....
@codyking48482 жыл бұрын
Holy crap. Glad you are okay. You came very close to Instrument Face there. I guess the snow was a lot deeper than it looked.
@welshpete122 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry this happened but you are ok , that all that matters . Hope your aircraft is repairable and able to fly again .
@carlosasher-leon48792 жыл бұрын
Great controlled landing, I got concerned with the approaching treeline, but you judged it spot on... Most important thing is you are ok, the plane can fix... I fly over water most times, so my ending ent never going to be a happy one..
@headdown12 жыл бұрын
Terrible landing. He choose a snowy field, with predictable results. Why not land on the highway if it is an emergency? And why land with without skies on snow if there is an alternative? Or did he have skis? I don't understand his decision making. Good job on shutdown after crash. Glad he is okay and will fly again.
@devonyt55012 жыл бұрын
@@headdown1 theres active traffic??????
@carlosasher-leon48792 жыл бұрын
@headdown1 You answered your question.....We obviously don't know all the facts and we all know putting a plane down on snow is problematic, therefore we just need to celebrate his survival, wish that we can be as lucky and move on...
@headdown12 жыл бұрын
@@carlosasher-leon4879 I think I did say that I was glad he survived and would fly again. Maybe you missed that part. As for me "moving on", I think I had done that, had I not? What is your point exactly? I am a private pilot and I naturally speculate about why he did what he did, like any other pilot watching this video. I guess I will "move on" now. Again.
@headdown12 жыл бұрын
@@devonyt5501 I looked closely at the video again, and the highway looks pretty quiet. Less cars than all of your exclamation points. :)
@xsyn1636 Жыл бұрын
hell nice save man youre alive
@sstocker312 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you were on wheels or skis, but the flat light is what got you into this situation I think.....really hard to make out ground contours in flat light. Glad you got out safely!
@troyjollimore41002 жыл бұрын
Huh??? Did the lack of engine power not contribute a little bit? ;)
@halfrhovsquared2 жыл бұрын
@@troyjollimore4100 - Apparently not. It seems that the uploader stated that the engine was performing correctly and that this was not a forced landing.
@troyjollimore41002 жыл бұрын
@@halfrhovsquared 🤦♂️
@SoloRenegade2 жыл бұрын
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you. best thing you can do is do a full stall landing, minimum possible airspeed before touching the snow, carry as little energy as you can when breaking through that crusty layer. Always assume there is a crusty layer.
@Teh_Random_Canadian2 жыл бұрын
Was that an intended landing or forced? That looked straight up like a field not a runway
@MikeS3092 жыл бұрын
The whole point of buying a Kitfox is to be able to do off-field landings....so this was probably intentional.
@global4express2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeS309 Maybe try compacted snow next time.
@nealsandidge39512 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Too bad the snow tripped you up. Would have had little or no damage most of the year. Glad you're OK!
@SoloRenegade2 жыл бұрын
it's snow with a frozen crusty top layer that is what gets you. the moment the wheels break through that layer it's going to grab and flip you. best thing you can do is do a full stall landing, minimum possible airspeed before touching the snow, carry as little energy as you can when breaking through that crusty layer. Always assume there is a crusty layer.
@daveth1218642 жыл бұрын
Not bad, captain. I can think of a LOT of different endings that are not nearly as happy as flipping a 1400 pound airplane in 3 feet of soft snow.
@edratliff2 жыл бұрын
well at least you didn't immediately bail out at the first sign of trouble lol
@jerryellingson73492 жыл бұрын
Where were the skis?
@rtmdlawncare57742 жыл бұрын
Good work getting it in. Can’t help what happens next ...... Glad your ok.
@CoryTyler__2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing save brother. I know you lost the plane but any life saved is a good day.🙌🙏
@maxsdad5382 жыл бұрын
Amazing save? How do you figure that?
@CoryTyler__2 жыл бұрын
@@maxsdad538 He lived with not many options to land. That's how I figure.