Airplane’s Door Opens Mid-Flight | Viral Debrief

[@DaddyBeanDaddyBean]

Not hiding mistakes: There's a story of a young guy who started a factory job, and not very far into it, he made a mistake that destroyed an expensive machine and brought the entire line to a halt. An executive type came down to the floor to see what was going on, and quickly found his way to this young man. The kid explained that he had accidentally pushed button A before pulling lever B, apologized for his mistake, and said he'd go clean out his locker. The executive said "You'll do no such thing - I just spent $100,000 to teach you never to make that mistake again, so if I fire you or you quit, that money was wasted. Go help Tony get the broken unit off the line, and he'll show you how to install the new one."

[@DERP_Squad]

The failure isn't of the guy who pulled the wrong lever, but of the system that allowed the wrong lever to be pulled.

[@DaddyBeanDaddyBean]

@@DERP_Squad Fair.

[@JustAnotherEngineer]

@@DERP_Squad Agreed. If your entire operation is depending on human beings being superhuman every day and never making a mistake, you don't have enough layers of protection.

[@Kavafy]

Sounds like it's the machine designer who should be fired

[@raymondbailey4538]

The story is apocryphal, but an IBM CEO used it after one of the largest losses in corporate history. During IBM foray into the nascent desktop PC, the younger product manager made a huge error costing tens of millions of dollars. The IBM "Peanut" was an abysmal failure and withdrawn from the market to much bad press. The CEO told the young man that he had just graduated in the most expensive school in existence. He'd be damned if he'd let him go to benefit another company. That young man made his mark later on in IBM. I have forgotten his name now,

[@DubYuhGChoppa]

First it was an expert plumber, then an OTR trucker, now a commercial/cargo pilot. KZbin really does a good job of introducing me to unique perspectives I would have otherwise never found, and I am glad your content is the next one I will get to binge for awhile

[@74gear]

haha, hope you enjoy it TBZ!

[@Vinemaple]

I'm on this profession vlogger kick as well, it's great

[@peterjohn1]

Those fire fighting planes are the "Super Scooper" and they don't land but fill up on "the fly" in a touch and go. Fantastic planes

[@Erkle64]

Which makes it even stupider to cross their path because they're not slowing down.

[@EdwinWiles]

@@Erkle64 From the clip, no one knows if the boat was deliberately crossing the plane's path, or simply caught in the flight plan of the planes. They may well have seen the first plane and were running trying to get out of its way when the second dropped in on them. There are far too many assumptions being made here. That the boaters were aware of the second plane when already distracted by the first. That the pilots even noticed the boaters. That the boaters were stupidly cutting across. That the boaters weren't aware enough of the situation to try to get out of the way. I'm disappointed with Kelsey for assuming that the boaters are at fault in all points.

[@Erkle64]

@@EdwinWiles If you don't notice the giant yellow plane making very loud plane noises then you're clearly too drunk to be driving a boat.

[@sgtstedanko7186]

@@Erkle64 still it's hard to make contextual assumptions with a short clip. Not everything is as it seems on the internet. Kelsey may even be using a green screen and is not actually in a hotel room 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️

[@robertheinkel6225]

The steam locomotives had a similar system to fill the tender with water without slowing down. A water trough in the middle of the track, was filled with water, and the tender would drop a scoop, to top off on the fly.

[@kkgg292]

Hey Kelsey, that spider in the plane is called a Huntsman Spider. I live in Melbourne, Australia and they are quite common here. Huntsman spiders, are known by this name because of their fast speed and mode of hunting. They are also sometimes called giant crab spiders because of their size and appearance. But they are largely harmless to humans and quite gentle, useful in controlling other insect pests. At my home, near our front door around a year ago, we had a huntsman that grew to the size of a large tennis ball.. my daughter named it Hairy Harry at it would often come out in the evening on the ceiling above us looking for insects to eat.

[@TheBandit7613]

Here in Nevada, we have tarantulas. They migrate this time of year, looking for hot hairy female tarantulas. I've been stopped waiting for them to finish crossing the road. If you are driving near here (you never know) and people seem to stop for no reason, it might be a big hairy spider out looking for some action.

[@illiath4438]

As an Aussie from Queensland whose unhappy with spiders, I immediately looked at it and went "oh, that's fine, it's a huntsman, hope it stays up there while they land". I am so glad I'm in the USA now, less giant spiders that eat birds... or worse...

[@oubigene2466]

hahaha nice, i came to the comments immediately to see if another aussie had said this! the bigger the spider, the less worried i am about it generally - (in my neck of the woods) it's the little ones that're the real threat 😆

[@annatamparow4917]

All spiders LOVE sugar! I kept one as a pet as a kid! Mildly venomous, but nothing like some Australian species or a tarantula.

[@sloanemactire8780]

Thank you for this comment. I wanted to see if an Aussie ID'd it - Huntsmen and Funnel Web Spiders are the only two kinds of spiders I know of from Oz, and I don't know enough to know one from the other. I'd just be thinking, "Giant spider in the plane... is it a Funnel Web Spider? Am I going to die today?"

[@garyb8528]

OMG. I am arachnophobic and once while driving at night, a nice sized spider dropped down in front of me and was somewhere on my lap. I had a difficult time driving. But I remember the words drummed into my head: “aviate (drive); navigate (stay on roadway); and communicate (SCREAM!). Thanks Kelsey

[@Erkle64]

I think, in this instance, it's molotov cocktail, dive out the door, tuck and roll.

[@KaitouKaiju]

You can pull over! Sheesh I would have thrown that spider out the window

[@tee2567]

That's the way to do it. I think I'm just lucky that my instinctive reaction to something unexpected, no matter how terrible, is to basically freeze and continue driving until my conscious brain can generate something useful than 'Oh s**** oh s***'

[@sgtpepr6260]

When you called air traffic control was it a pan pan or mayday? 😂

[@sveinfarstad3897]

" “aviate (drive); navigate (stay on roadway); and communicate (SCREAM!). "

[@beckiehubley5798]

My entire town was on evacuation alert due to forest fires in 2021. It was so frustrating to hear of water bombers being delayed due to boaters in the way.

[@dicksonfranssen]

I've seen this only on TV. Dad has a new boat, the kids want to go on the banana thing and off they go. How about no boating license for 10 years? This summer a medivac helicopter couldn't land nearby because a neighbor sent up his drone. Really makes me wonder what people are thinking.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@dicksonfranssen "My being me is more important than anyone's life. My parents taught me that."

[@dicksonfranssen]

@@RideAcrossTheRiver I don't understand what you're trying to say. What you want to do or be is more important than anyone's life? Have you ever seen a burn victim? I have and wish I hadn't.

[@abbeychase4718]

Aerosucre is possibly the least safety conscious airline in the world. There are multiple KZbin channels featuring their impossibly risky behavior, including almost always taking off overweight (i.e. using up every inch of the runway before the wheels come off the ground. They even had a deadly crash involving overweigh takeoff attempt which ultimately failed and killed all the crew on board.

[@firehog]

Aerosucre never takes off, they let the curvature of earth "fall" below them. LOL

[@ЦветозарЦветков-е5о]

Aerosucre Biggest villagers in the air

[@luiskp7173]

They’ve had more than one deadly crash.

[@pastorjerrykliner3162]

That was an Aerosucre 727 that almost didn't clear the airport perimeter fence because they were so badly over-loaded.

[@anonymousxish]

@@firehog That will be a problem for flat earthers! LMAO

[@citibear57]

Hi Kelsey, I am glad that KZbin suggested your channel. You must be the Kelsey I have seen mentioned in Airline Videos Live's streams. I have just subscribed to your channel. I hope you get to 1 millions subs soon!

[@The_Dudester]

Aerosucre (door open) is known for risky/dangerous/unprofessional behavior. Other aviation channels is rife with clips of Aerosucre planes using every inch of a runway to take off, barely clearing the fence due to overloading.

[@nero3700]

Yeah, I thought about that right when I saw I was a Aerosucre plane. They are the Waberer of airplanes. *Waberer is a trucking company, known for the same kind of behaviour, the internet is full of Waberer trucks involved in accidents...

[@cpt_nordbart]

@@nero3700 I would have said Swift.

[@BritanniaPacific]

Let’s not forget their 727 crash all those years ago. Same reason.

[@Kalvinjj]

Trigana Air is the Indonesian equivalent from what I've read. Last year they had a landing gear collapse on landing and skid through the runway.

[@VisibilityFoggy]

@@BritanniaPacific They were also illegally carrying passengers (who were killed, I believe). How they're still allowed to operate is stunning.

[@AbsolutelyCriminal]

That “comin’ up” intro gets me every time. So perfect!

[@ikka7787]

Just wanted to say that your videos have made me a lot more calm about flying, and even a little bit excited about getting on a plane! So thanks for making these videos!

[@NandanV]

the PB&J balance is a very fine one.... a VERY... fine one.

[@John.0z]

With a quick check, I did not see any other Australian pointing out that the Huntsman in that video is not dangerous to humans. They have a bit of a bite, but nothing serious, and they will run from us, rather than bite. I try to chase them back into the garden. They do like to find their way indoors when it is about to rain - who can blame them? That said, one day I had just set off in my car, and one ran across the inside of the windscreen right in front of me. Fortunately there were no cars around me as I stopped *very quickly* to let her out. My response to spiders is in direct response to how close they are. Far away, I love them. Up close, no thank you!!!

[@Spinobreaker]

probably because its midnight down here mate :p

[@jamesaustralian9829]

3:40am in Adelaide

[@PeterKelley]

Huntsmen aren't dangerous but they are big and fast and creep me out. One of the spiders many Australians find in their houses from time to time.

[@SierraBravoOneNiner]

Looking at one right now (about 8cm across) - flattened against the ceiling/wall corner. Just chilling. As the song says "this is Australia . . .".

[@bencze465]

I would probably crash and kill myself and possibly others if I had that in my vehicle. :(

[@FleaMarketJohn]

I owe you a handshake! I am VERY fearful of flying but over the past two years of watching almost all your videos, I must say, I am ready and "comfortable' again, I think. A glass of wine as a passenger before takeoff ain't gonna hurt but I am hopefully ready.

[@avfx111]

You know that everything goes right when you see an airplane with an Aerosucre livery.

[@bobhitt2010]

Kelsey I just want to say I think you are a great guy and I love the way you do your Viral Debrief. Keep up the good work.

[@domdom1926]

About the Canadair ( fire fighting aircraft ) My dad was flying them for many years .. all pilots are ex fighter pilots , theirs space awareness is second to none. they have to make drop as low as possible ( to avoid the water turning into steam because of the fires temperature ) lowing between ravines, trees etc etc ... these planes scooping on lakes, seas are an attraction everyone on boat, surf etc try to get as close as possible to have a good look. theirs noise is incredible ! you can hear them coming miles away ... so he could had moved away . they are high wings, even if it touched that boat I doubt any significant damages would had happened . while landing this boat was probably moving to the right of this aircraft making room or so for the first plane as seen in the clip ... and the skipper of this boat wasn't aware that another plane was coming .. they only operate by pairs .. so there we see two they could be four or more ... This is how they operate in France, Securite civile its a french agency .. I have no ideas about others countries on how they operate these aircrafts . Thank you for the clip :-)

[@allananderson949]

Is bush fires an issue in France?

[@domdom1926]

@@allananderson949 yes every years … they are huge! Specially in the South, in Provence for instance. Unfortunately there are not enough Canadairs .

[@raw1465]

as someone whos disabled at 21 and will probably never fly. thanks for the videos. their really fun to watch and learn about aviation.

[@Khail.23]

What happened, I hope everything is ok

[@gorotate2224]

There have been a lot other incidents with cargo doors opening beside they had been correctly closed and locked on ground. The DC-10 accidents happened due to mechanical failure. But there are numerous ones where electrical failures opened closed and locked doors. Pan Am 125, a 747, enroute to JFK, crew had pressurization problems above 22000 feet and returned to AMS. The fwd cargo door was found open about 1,5 inch. The warning light in the cockpit never illuminated. United 811, a 747, after take off from HNL, passing 22,000 ft, a electrical failure opened the fwd cargo . Aerodynamic forces slammed the door upwards against the fuselage and then the door ripped off taking a large portion of the fuselage with it. Because of the damage the cabin floor in that area collapsed and 10 seats had been ejected of the aircraft, with 9 passengers sitting in them . Some of these passengers together with debris were injected into engines 3 and 4, both right wing engines and damaged them seriously. Other debris damaged the right wing leading edge and both the horizontal and vert stabilizer. The flight crew had to shut down both engines 3 and 4 . The passenger cabin through aerodynamic forces and debris was heavily damaged and the passenger oxygen system failed . The flaps could not extended hydraulically. With only 2 operating engines on one side of the aircraft, damaged stabilizers and right wing, flaps thst only extended electrically to flaps 10 position, the crew managed to land the aircraft, and beside landing with around 190 knots instead of around 150 the crew managed to come to a complete stand still without overrun of the runway. There was also a DHL Cargo 757 from Leipzig in Germany thst landed with a fully open main cargo door and a UPS DC-8 . In all cases the doors were correctly closed and locked on ground.

[@mptilus]

DL589 out of MSP a few years back had a cockpit window break open shortly after takeoff. The radio traffic from the flight deck is SO NOISY it’s nuts. But again, the flew the plane and returned safely. ATC cleared the airspace for them quite quickly as communication was near impossible.

[@BritishBeachcomber]

The scariest one was British Airways Flight 5390 in 1990. At 23,000ft the windscreen popped out, explosive decompression, captain sucked out. Luckily a steward grabbed his legs, his body in the slipstream. Amazing that everyone survived.

[@Shaun_Jones]

@@BritishBeachcomber that Captain was back to work in five months. Tough as nails; I think he only retired from flying in 2015.

[@budyeddi5814]

WOW! Crazy the stories you find in the YT comment section

[@f22217]

For the first clip, I am pretty sure this happen in France. I remember when I was on holydays in places where those plane were frequently seen, they were specific zone where these plane can take water, they had siren to tell elthe people in the zone to get out before touching the water... And nothing annoyed the firefighters more than the tourists not taking care of the firefighters planes.

[@AutumnFalls89]

I was going to say that I'm pretty sure people aren't allowed on the water if firefighters are using it.

[@kenbrown2808]

the livery includes the word Civile, which google says is Italian. that means it was most likely somewhere in the EU.

[@benoithudson7235]

“Sécurité civile” is French, not Italian.

[@Tiisiphone]

@@benoithudson7235 Correct. This happened in France for sure.

[@DERP_Squad]

@@Tiisiphone Not necessarily in France, in the EU most countries share aerial firefighting equipment and it gets sent to wherever it's needed.

[@tyzorg]

I worked at an airport for years and had the "clearance" (lol) to drive on the non FAA side of the airstrip (anything from the dotted line and back for our airplane friends) so I could drive from gate to gate basically. ANYWAYS, I was told.. "if you make a plane TOUCH their brakes for any reason, you're fired" so.. as our guy Kelsey stated, you always.. always give way to the planes (DUH!) and never.. EVER go infront of them when they're taxiing. SAME goes if they're doing a push-back. Sounds like that catering driver was some lack-ee that was just hired and didn't receive proper training and endangered himself and others over something easily preventable. Great vid brother!

[@Btown2294]

Speaking of pilots hiding their mistakes, I work in the MRO industry at a major MRO for corporate jets. We had just delivered a Gulfstream G-IV to a customer and they took it on a test flight, only to return immediately with a pressurization issue. As they were taxiing back, my coworker and I noticed that the hard plastic cover over the cabin pressure regulator valve was still installed. After they parked and the aircraft was swarmed with technicians, the co-pilot stepped out of the plane, removed the cover, shoved it up his coat and hid it in the plane. After that he waved off all the techs and they flew home with no issues. I don’t think anyone but my coworker and I saw that happen, but that cover would have gone straight into the #2 engine had it come off in flight.

[@davidhynd4435]

That's a Huntsman spider. Not aggressive. Super quick moving. Can give you a nasty bite but won't kill you. Lots of Australians have had the experience of discovering that one of these is a passenger in the car with you. My eldest daughter, who is terrified of spiders, has had one of these on the inside of the windscreen of her car on two separate occasions. It's amazing how quickly you can pull over, stop the car, and leap out when one of these is right in your line of sight.

[@billbell2311]

Under both the Inland and International Navigation Rules (72 COLREGS), it's the seaplane's pilot who is (usually) responsible for staying "well clear" of any vessel on the water, not the boat operator. That said, if I were in my boat and there were seaplanes operating in the area, I'd do my best to clear the area because any collision isn't going to end well. I'm not going to press the point. Steering and Sailing Rules "RULE 18 Responsibilities Between Vessels (e) A seaplane on the water shall, in general, keep well clear of all vessels and avoid impeding their navigation. In circumstances, however, where risk of collision exists, she shall comply with the Rules of this Part."

[@Underskore]

This reminds me of last fire season here with a forest fire that was pretty much in town. The city sends out a emergency declaration to keep all boats and watercraft out of the river so the water bombers and helicopters can refill.... So what do people do? ignore that and chill in the spots that they use to come down and refill.. Then they'd go on the city's rant page, complain about how they shouldn't have to be out of the way of the planes cause it affects their time on the water while also bitching about how shitty the fire department is fighting the fire.

[@quasarsavage]

Yeah common sense don’t cross even if legally u are clear and the plane is in the wrong. They 1 are bigger than u and will kill u if they hit u and 2 are serving the public and trying to end the fire

[@johncamp7679]

That rule 18 , a seaplane on the water, since he was still in the air does it go back to the boat?

[@someguy4915]

@@johncamp7679 Take a guess?...

[@TheHawk--oe8iq]

@@johncamp7679 Check this out. Some sea planes don't use pontoons (float planes), but their fuselages are called "floating hulls", aka "flying boats." The infamous PBY Catalina and the Grumman Goose, are good examples of "flying boats."

[@jackshea1077]

Student Pilot here- Door flew open half way through my first Solo cross country. I don't need that to happen again, I learned my lesson very quick.

[@leewright4941]

I'm from Sydney, Australia & had a Huntsman climb up the inside of my windscreen whilst driving once. They're pretty common here & harmless so I wasn't too freaked out. I will say that one on the plane was a particularly large one. They can move super fast too.

[@charlotteruse158]

Hey. I'm very picky about the peanut butter and jelly balance too. Thanks for the literal laugh out loud.

[@suzannetitkemeyernlq]

Looked like a Huntsman spider. Not poisonous. We have enormous tarantulas here in Costa Rica.

[@oldmanuncle1237]

Seeing and reviewing all of these scenarios, Kelsey is low key training himself to be the greatest pilot known to man.

[@74gear]

haha, lot better pilots out there than me Uncle!

[@flugjung]

@@74gear you are always a very humble chap but ,really, your videos are very good ADM lesson!

[@28ebdh3udnav]

It's a great day when 74 gear uploads a videos. V1, rotate

[@endervatta9907]

THANK YOU FOR THE WARNING! I pushed my phone away as soon as you mentioned spider but it still wasn't enough when it panned up. No thank you!!! Love the videos huge fan!!

[@gillesgambier2202]

Hi Kelsey, the two Canadair CL-415 were actually scooping up water in a restricted maritime area near Saint-Tropez in France. No boat is allowed in this area which is reserved for firefighting planes, and people in the pleasure boat should not have been there.

[@ChanahAngelicaKamen]

Ah, the Aussie order of operations. "Aviate, Navigate, Film an 8-legged mate".

[@18robsmith]

Two of us had just arrived in Australia on business. A huntsman crawled out from the car door seal right by my colleague's hand, I'm not saying he had a brown trouser event - it was more like a perforated trouser event.

[@beeble2003]

The spider ripped his trousers off?!? OMG!!! 😉

[@maheenm]

Another great video! The spider is a Huntsman, very common in Australia. Even though they are huge, they are not dangerous. Their bite will hurt and sting, but not deadly.

[@Emg2463]

lol....and those big spiders are FAST too ! Nothing worse than a large spider....unless it's a large spider that moves FAST !! 🤣

[@swrennie]

I feel the same way about Zombies.

[@margotrosendorn6371]

Word of mouth is that a lot of car accidents happen because of spiders. "EEEEEEEEK!! SPIDERSPIDERSPIDER!!!!" **CRASH**

[@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13]

Large crocodiles are much worse than large spiders... We get both in Australia, but large crocodiles are far less common. Which is good, 'cause they're worse.

[@detritus23]

It looked like a Huntsman Spider, which are not venomous. If it were a black spider…then it might be a funnel web or a mouse spider, which are entirely different…

[@csueconner9711]

What’s worse than a fast spider? A spider that is fast AND venomous. Had it been venomous, this pilot might have had a different reaction.

[@stewartg2197]

Kelsey Mate! Im aussie through and through obviously :) But a few facts you might or might not know, That spider is a huntsman, pretty much harmless, most aussie house holds have quite a few of them around... And The most important fact you may or may not know, is when a seaplane/float plane touch's down on the water, it is then a boat and has to adhere to martime/water rules! :)

[@keithbrunson7190]

Kelsey. That is Not a dangerous spider. He just looks like a horror film, but he’s displaced, that’s all.

[@blackknight1013]

Not an aircraft story, but fits with the aircraft door and checks. A number of years ago I was working as a jump master and site controller on a bungee jumping site. On site we do a barrel test every morning on each bungee cord being used. The barrel is filled with the max weight that cord is being used for and the push it out as if it was a jumper. The barrel itself is held in a braided rope bag, much like a fishing net in appearance. We tested the first one no problem, but the second one went all wrong. The routine is for the ground crew to attach the barrel, the assistant jump master to check it, and the jump master do one final check. Despite that when the barrel went out it broke free of the Carabiner and the barrel plunged into the water. I assumed the net must have had a weakness as it is not a majorly tested item due to only being used for barrel tests. As it turned out none were broken and the Carabiner was still locked and closed. Only thing we could come up with was that it had someone been shut around a false loop that didn't get seen by the visual check, nor pull loose from a hard tug check by 3 people. Point is that is how easy it is for one person to make a mistake and two others to miss it.

[@robertheinkel6225]

When I was in the USAF, we were flying out of Turkey, at a base not used by aircraft that often. We had the KC-135 Tankers. They had a road that crossed the main taxiway, and the would not stop for aircraft taxiing. We had to send two trucks out to block the roads, ever time we taxied.

[@sophierobinson2738]

Used to PDM those.

[@CFITOMAHAWK2]

stupid to call Turkey an ally. They hate the west most of them. They are only "Friends when i need you only".

[@dexon777]

Which City?

[@WreedTrimmer]

When my father was in the USAF, he was on a RC-135 and the fuel was contaminated. Two engines stopped mid air and a third one stopped on landing. It amazing how much can go wrong when you forget something or do something improperly.

[@WreedTrimmer]

He flew out of Okinawa I believe.

[@LuxPlanes]

honestly that looks like a pretty regular aerosucre flight to me. all the videos i see of them are doing unusual things so i guess that becomes the usual for them

[@RMSTitanicWSL]

There actually are two types of passenger planes with that style of door, though not many. They are called "combis" and "QC" (for quick change) planes. On the combis, the section of the door is a full-time cargo compartment that is either forward or aft of the passenger compartment on the main deck. In fact, 747s were among the most common airframe used for this configuration. On "QC" planes, the seats and other passenger accommodations are mounted on freight pallets that snap into place just like the cargo pallets do. The windows, ceiling lights, O2 masks, and other top-mounted gear simply remain in place. The 737 is the most common choice for this conversion, so it's not impossible this plane is used for carrying passengers, too. Such planes are frequently used in lower traffic areas such as remote parts of South America, Africa, and Asia.

[@crazyjhey8050]

I was wondering what the deal was with that 737 I’ve never seen a 737 with a cargo door like that. I didn’t know they had 737s that carried cargo containers. Every 737 ive worked on uses a plug type door making that situation impossible.

[@RMSTitanicWSL]

@@crazyjhey8050 It's allowed on aircraft that carry cargo on their main deck. A number of different airframes have (or have had) such doors. I've seen 727s, 737s, 747s, IL-62s, DC-9s, DC-10s, and MD-11s with such doors.

[@tonytango6676]

I have seen a number of 737‘s in Canada‘s Arctic which are combi‘s. Also Lockheed Electra‘s as flown by NWT air in the 1980s. Indeed I was upfront chatting with the flight crew and the auto pilot was broken so the pilot was hand flying the airplane. Then he should not the flight attendant was coming forward because he could tell the balance of the aircraft had changed.

[@lucasbrien5008]

And Alaska! Combi 737s are the only way the town of Barrow gets cargo and people.

[@budyeddi5814]

The first time I flew on a 747 it was a combi

[@BabyMakR]

Australian here. That's not a big spider. That's a little baby one. It's also not venomous to humans. It is however great for keeping the numbers of insects down so if you have one in your house, leave them be. Unless you like Cockroaches etc.

[@74gear]

Spiders don’t bother me much but I wouldn’t enjoy one crawling around my head as I try to land

[@SeaChrisp]

Kelsey, have you planned another Live Q&A? I missed the last one live but I thought it was a very nice vid. Please do one again!

[@fireisle]

I worked as a mechanic for an airline for 34 yrs, I'm retired now, but on day one we were told NEVER hide your mistakes as you will get fired. No matter how minor the mistake. In 34 years I saw some monumental screw ups. Failing to put the jack stands under the aircraft before attempting to jack it up causing the aircraft to rest back on its tail with the nose in the air, for example. No one lost their job. Guy in the turbine engine shop broke a turbine blade somehow. He just stuck it together again and went home at the end of his shift. He was fired the next day.

[@alooga555]

Way back when I worked for TWA as a ramp agent, there was one MD-83 whose middle cargo door always had some issues and it always showed up in the cockpit as "open" when it was actually shut and vice versa. We slammed it a few times to make it "shut." There was also one L-1011 whose rear cargo door had the green lamp on indicating that that it was shut after loading, but the cockpit light showed that it was still open. A lot of times pilots just went ahead and took off with the issues without having mechanics check out the goblin.

[@thecontrarian5503]

Aerosucre is the gift that keeps on giving.

[@thechosen-jesusandhisdisci8558]

Hello Kelsey. Thanks for posting these videos. When you are going to make another personal vlog?

[@eclectichoosier5474]

As one who has worked on the doors of passenger 737s for a well-known airline in the US, I can tell you that you are NOT going to get one of those doors open in flight. It may be possible to unlatch one during the take-off roll, and you may even get it part-way open, but once you're at take-off speed, it's going to be forced back into its closed position. No real need to land; just latch it. And after pressurization, there's no chance of even unlatching it. You will have (literally) tons of pressure pushing outward on it. Not to mention the flight attendants and the other passengers forcibly restraining you. The mechanism inside the door is not all that strong. It will bend and deform before it pulls the pressurized panels at the top and bottom of the door away from the frame. It's plenty strong to work as intended, but it will break before it lets you open a door in flight. The cargo doors are another story entirely. They will open, if not properly latched. And they are not actually segregated, so the cabin will depressurize if they open at altitude. (Not likely.) But the cargo is secured by various means, so it's unlikely that any luggage or other stuff would fall out.

[@ChrispyByDefault]

Hi Kelsey! Great video as always! I am about 10 hours into my PPL training and am pushing through some issues with motion sickness. Your videos are always inspiring to me! Take care!

[@HGFCVNC]

I’m about 25 hrs in and I did start getting the same issue when we started working on steep turns. I just take a Dramamine (motion sickness pill) before a class if I know I’m doin steep turns for the day and it always worked so probably you can give it a try

[@larrybe2900]

Everyone is different but someone told me my first time flying to just breath normal to avoid getting sick. It was an effort to breath normal and appreciate the experience but I never got sick. Maybe I never would have to begin with but just thought I would pass the thought along to anyone reading this. Same I did for a long ocean fishing trip and there I am sure it helped. Somethings within our senses have to be on the same page I suppose.

[@74gear]

well everyone has their own challenges, I imagine your body will get used to it eventually. Glad you are enjoying the videos

[@ads5267]

Hey Kelsey, Aussie here. It's only a Huntsman Spider. They are harmless and pretty chilled out. The pilots probably went and had a beer with it after they landed.

[@Suburp212]

ya, we have had those water bombardier firefighter airplanes chase us in Greece. they love hustling those small dingys...

[@raymondbailey4538]

As a former California wildland firefighter I have known several fire service pilots. The firefighting planes making a loading run open belly scoops to hydraulicly fill the tanks on the go. Speed on touching the water is higher than a normal water-landing speed to fill the tanks without loosing take-off speed with full tanks. Because of the scoops they must maintain a zero-bubble roll and yaw holding a constant pitch or plane will do a "damned-dippity-doo" (ground loop on water) and flip the tail up catestrophically nosediving into the water. Because of this they must fly a specifically aligned glide slope. Any crosswind or obstruction (boat in the landing path) requires a go-around and realignment. However they are not above scaring the bejeezus out of boaters who ignore the warnings!!!! Since they must make a run according to wind shifts boaters have to stay well clear of the area at all times being used.

[@chandrlekha8316]

Enjoyed ur vid sir 💙✈️

[@steffanjames1815]

The planes “landing” on the water are Canadairs, they are not actually landing, they are flying low and scooping up water as they fly across the water, then when their tanks are full, a few seconds later, fly off back to continue fighting the fire by dropping the water they just collected and if needed they repeat, very skilled pilots at doing this, well practiced. The pleasure boat will be in trouble when he get to shore as there are plenty of warnings when is lake is being used for an emergency. I’m in France and live by a lake used by them, it is truly astonishing to watch…from a safe distance!

[@sdavis7916]

Totally enjoy your videos, thanks for taking the time to make them. On this video, the firefighting planes- I think that the boat must likely didn't thread the gap in between each plane. More likely the first plane/boat were in the same orientation as when the second plane came in. Looking at the speed of the planes, distance between the two and four a brief second you can see the speed of the boat wasn't very high at all. Thanks so much again, love watching & learning from your videos!

[@jeromethiel4323]

"Cross check and all call." That phrase is etched into my mind, because i hear it all the damn time.

[@steveanderson9290]

I've had a couple of screw-ups in my life that I was fortunate enough to live through, and those "lessons" fundamentally changed the way i have conducted myself ever since. One of those lessons was aviation related and involved the similarity and proximity of the battery switch and fuel dump switch on the overhead...yea.

[@Kooooyooooy]

Jeez man 😂

[@ChrisGageTX]

"SAMIR YOU DUMPED THE FUEL"

[@ChrisGageTX]

"SAMIR YOU'LL BREAK THE PLANE"

[@johan.ohgren]

Uhmm, we're suddenly out of fuel....

[@builtontherockhomestead9390]

Yesterday a brush fire blew up in my rural Texas County, about 10 miles from me. 4 VFD and the Forrest Service is fighting it. A few photos on FB that have been posted are of planes that look like they are doing acrobats. Takes a special pilot to fly like that and into smoky areas. This morning the fire is 90% contained.

[@jonathandill3557]

Seeing the cargo hold sparked a memory of my grandfather taking me into the hold of a Flying Tigers airplane. He was a US Customs agent and took me all kinds of interesting places that I'm sure that I wasn't supposed to be and that wouldn't be possible today. I think the weirdest call he took me on was a Cessna sized airplane flying car mats from Canada in the middle of the night, in retrospect that seemed kind of shady, but maybe that's normal.

[@davidhynd4435]

"...why not just take the extra two or three seconds..." This is why I would be happy for you to be my pilot. When other passengers are complaining about how long it's taking to ready the plane for flight I'm thinking "Take as long as you want if it makes certain that the plane is ready and safe." Caution and double-checking. Sounds like a good idea to me. And no amount of double-checking would get me on an Aerosucre plane!

[@kenbrown2808]

had a time I was driving a truck on a winding road, and the passenger side door hadn't been latched properly. there were no pullouts I could use to stop and close it, and it didn't have enough mass to latch when it swung closed, so for three miles, it would swing open on the left hand turns and swing almost closed on the right hand turns.

[@Nirrith]

Had a similar incident with the toolbox on my old Kenworth, but with the toolbox. Lost a couple ratchet straps and wrenches by the time I could stop

[@kenbrown2808]

@@Nirrith saw a motorhome once that had a storage bin open and a slide out tray rolling in and out. Called PD on that one in the hope they could let him know before he hit something with it.

[@OldMan_PJ]

LOL, I had 2 cars (an '08 Kia Spectra and a '06 Ford Taurus) that had driver doors that wouldn't latch if it was below freezing out. I would always have to hang onto the door while driving to work in the morning. Sometimes they would thaw out enough they would latch about 30 minutes into the commute, other times they wouldn't latch until I got to work. The wind would work around the littlest gap and want to rip them open. Driving forward made no difference. Put entire cans of anti-icing fluid in the mechanisms but it made no difference.

[@raygale4198]

Old Land Rovers do this all the time, there;s a reason for the slogan 'Every drive is an adventure' FYI with the aerodynamics of a brick when a landy door opens it will stay at about 45 degree open at road speed, just riding that air spill off the flat windscreen.

[@JohnRodriguesPhotographer]

They actually have scoops on the bottom if they're getting water. They just basically do a touch and go until the tank's full.

[@robertl6196]

Oh yep: Aerosucre. 'Nuff said.

[@Dymondslayr]

I've learned quite a bit watching your videos and your viral debriefs are how I first found you. I work just a mile or so east of Sky Harbor so when I'm in the office I can regularly see planes coming in to land or taking off (depending on time of year/weather) and I was rather excited today because I saw one pull out of its descent for a go-around. Thanks to your videos, even though I'll probably never know WHY, at least I could recognize what was going on.

[@silmarian]

Not only will there be approximately all the drag, but that big of an open door would compromise the plane's rigidity. It'd be a lot more flexible in all the bad ways.

[@ABBADiego]

I flew on 2 B737-204 “freighters” in the 1980s, G-AXNA and G-AXNB, Britannia Airways. They had converted them to passenger use. They were 1 galley, all service done from the front, no galley at back. There was a switch on the rear flight attendants panel that you’d switch on just before take off, which would switch on a heater at the front area of the aircraft to heat the cabin there as the cargo door was still actually there, just wasn’t used. We never, ever suspected that the cargo door would open in flight.

[@tomtietjenmdfacp2424]

Minor critique here: Seaplane pilots must also comply with the 1972 Convention for the Preventing Collisions at Sea (“COLREGS”) by the International Maritime Organization (think of it like the FAA for the world’s watercraft operators). According to Rule #18(e) of the COLREGS, “A seaplane on the water shall, in general, keep well clear of all vessels and avoid impeding their navigation.” Argue the logic if you want, but seaplanes are at the bottom of the “pecking order” in terms of right-of-way on the water. Although it was the small boat that would have suffered the most injury, it would have been the pilot of the plane that was held responsible for the accident. Sorry this is so technical, but look it up if you doubt me.

[@kenbrown2808]

that's not a seaplane, that's an air tanker. when they're in service, they own the lake. recreational boats must keep clear.

[@salvatoreshiggerino6810]

@@kenbrown2808 Call it what you will, but it's a seaplane under the COLREGS. See 3 (e): "The word “seaplane” includes any aircraft designed to manoeuvre on the water." In what universe is the CL-415 not an "aircraft designed to manoeuvre on the water"? It's a colossal dick move of the boater to choose to go out when fire fighting planes are operating, but the phrase "recreational boater" exists nowhere in the COLREGS. The pilot must always give way to the boat. That holds even if the boat is in violation of some local ordinance prohibiting it from operating on the lake.

[@kenbrown2808]

@@salvatoreshiggerino6810 when it is fighting a fire. Then it becomes an emergency vehicle and has right of way.

[@kenbrown2808]

@@salvatoreshiggerino6810 to be clear, the pilot is still responsible to not crash his airplane, just like the boater is responsible to not crash his boat, but once the lake becomes an emergency scene, which it is when super scoopers are filling, the normal traffic rules are superceded by the rule that civilian vehicles must not interfere with emergency vehicles.

[@tomtietjenmdfacp2424]

@@kenbrown2808 I don't disagree with the idea that emergency vehicles should have the right-of-way, but (sorry to say) it just isn't the way the law is written. @Salvatore Shiggerino and I have provided references. Will you share yours with us?

[@numanumafan2008]

The boat was actually out on a closed lake. The firefighting planes were scooping under the assumption that there was no one else on the lake. They weren’t actually landing, just filling their tank with water. You can’t slow down in that situation, cause you’re going to be climbing out as soon as your tank is full.

[@aribernstein3217]

Hi Kelsey! I just wanted to say I love your content and you inspired me to become a pilot so thank you😁

Hello Kelsey ! I have more infos about that first clip : These are Canadair CL 415 used in France, they're not doing a full landing, they're just touching down and going back up. These planes do this all the time (I used to live there and saw these kind of scene every summer), I actually uploaded two videos of these on imgur , but apparently posting a link in my comment gets it deleted, tell me if you want to check them out, they really demonstrate that this can happen everywhere at sea there. The guy in the boat may be one of the spotters for the firefighter, this is not a "landing area" for planes, this is random sea, what happens with these planes, if I remember well, is that they go to refill their water tank on the closest body of water and they have spotter telling them "ok you can come, there's no other boat or swimming people" (yes,sometimes, they're close enough to the beach for that ). Having the tip of their wing close to building or trees is really common, so if the boat is their spotter friend, it's possible they're just landing next to him because he told them it was a safe spot to do so (rewatching the clip, doesn't look like a spotter. We need someone who knows more than me! ) There is a siren telling people to get off the water, but you can't hear it from everywhere, and there are parts of the coast without sirens. Also, sometimes the siren would ring and the planes would arrive less than 5 minutes later, which makes it hard to react fast enough. That's also why they have spotters. Hope I cleared that up, I used to live near Marignane (Marseille airport, code MRS, maybe you flew there ? ) , where some of these were stored, and knew people working with these. I lived 100m away from a beach and sometimes they would take water right in front of us if there was a fire close enough.

[@tripprogers4814]

Aero Sucker strikes again! I am very surprised packages of parcels went flying out everywhere, do you know how they love to overload those planes!

[@LeoJthe747]

Aaaaaand once again, the legend is back!

[@peterpanda5069]

Naww it’s a huntsman. They’re scary looking and will flail around when they’re not feeling safe but harmless.

[@brucehooks7508]

I was in the Navy and I was aircrew on 737's (C-40A) that had a cargo door in the side. There are view ports in the outside of the plane that we looked at to verify that all locking pawls were engaged. There were check valves that kept any back pressure from opening the locks in addition to a manual lock on the leading edge of the door that also acted as a depressurization valve for the cargo section. Just like Kelsey said, we have indicating lights in the flight deck if a door is not closed. During my time on DC-9's(C-9B) for smoke and fume elimination, procedures had us descend below 10,000ft, depressurized and unlatch the forward service door. This would create a vacuum effect and suck all the smoke from the cabin. Never had to do it for real but it worked in the simulator at American Airlines Flight Attendant school.

[@Suburp212]

kelsey, the South European firefighters intentionally clip close to little boats. been chased by them often in the past in our boat.

[@Kenny-vb4qr]

Love you Kelsey awesome explanation

[@chrisself6312]

Hey Kelsey, I love your videos! I work at one of the busiest airports in the US as the Fuel Scheduling Manager. Wanted to extend an invite, if you ever want to do a "behind the scenes" type video on jet fuel management and scheduling, we would love to host. Take care!

[@cfx99]

Former ramper here: If I remember right, SMF has stop signs on the service roads when they cross taxiways. I could be wrong, but if so I know at least that there's signs telling you to give way to taxiing aircraft. We were all told that it was a federal offense to impede an aircraft and was grounds for immediate termination. As for the honesty part: we had a delayed flight, like ETA was 2:30am for an 8pm flight. Everyone was tired and we had heard that the passengers were less than pleased. Plane lands, a CRJ-700 and I rush over with my human towed baggage cart. I clipped the wing. Well more like pulled the top of the bag cart right into the tailing edge of the wing full speed. Chipped the paint, broke a static wick. Got sent home immediately and told to report for drug and alcohol check. All good, I was totally honest with everything. Was told that was the only thing that saved me, my honesty. BTW static wicks look like radio antennas that cost like $20, but apparently cost the airline several hundred to replace...

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

As an Aussie myself, I can tell you that although I'm fine with most creatures, including smaller spiders, that fucker gave me chills. Just because we're Aussie doesn't mean big ass spiders don't scare us lol, in fact my sister can't stand the sight of any spiders. I'll stick to kangaroos thanks

[@BobbieSmith46]

Years ago I had a guy pull a knife on me and I grabbed him and gently "encouraged" him to give me the knife, and the next day I ran away from a spider very similar to that one much to the confusion of people who witnessed both events lol. As I told them the spider might have jumped on me and I would scream and definitely destroy my image!🤭

[@Maggie-tr2kd]

Callum Lambkin, "I'll stick to kangaroos thanks." Ahem, a kangaroo in a cockpit might be a bit of a problem ! Ha! Ha!

[@Chris.Row1991]

I'll stick with the 6" huntsmans I think. They big and freaky, but a 6' Kangaroo is going to do a hell of a lot more damage than that poor little spider. Plus they keep all the flies and bugs away and anything that keeps the bloody flies away is a friend of mine.

[@chitlitlah]

I'm not generally afraid of spiders, but having one that large running around on the ceiling above my head while I'm strapped to a seat and unable to move would cause a little anxiety.

[@skydiverclassc2031]

@@Chris.Row1991 I didn't know there were "huntsman" spiders, so I briefly read your comment as '6" humans.' Definitely not scary. 😀

[@aja9469]

74 Gear, I've been watching you videos and I have to tell you they are super interesting! My grandfather was a pilot for his entire life and these "finer" details really bring back his memory for me, Thank you sir.

[@cfdtv1]

Hey Kelsey, Love your videos and I normally don't comment much but I think I need to add something here. The first clip with the firefighting planes and the boat.... The planes can move ALOT faster than the boat can, it's not like the boat can just jump out of the way. That boat may have had a 90hp and just can't move that fast. I'm sure they were out in the middle of the waterway long before those planes came into view and no one is ever expecting a plane to land on the water. And I'd also bet they saw the first plane and may have never seen the second plane until it was on top of them. On the water the faster vessel yields to the slower one but the slower vessel is usually the bigger vessel. Not in this case thou. Thanks for the videos!!

[@AlbertoNencioni]

As observed before, the boat should not be there, period. Canadairs always make a pass to check if there are boats, buoys, algae matresses and which direction waves are pointing to, THEN they come back and spoon. Good sense should suggest boat owners NOT to look for nice calm spots to make water-skying or tow-parachuting, because that is also the most likely place for a Canadair to come and fill the tanks. Moreover when fires are around in Italy the radio keeps telling you, VHF will also tell you, sirens will be wailing and police cars and Fire Dpt trucks will be on the road flashing the blue lights all the time.

[@kenbrown2808]

@@AlbertoNencioni right. the law is when you see the red underbelly, you assume it is going to come down and scoop, and you're not allowed to be there when it does.

[@CosminClaudiuStan]

@74gear you forgot to mention that if the door opens during flight, besides being loud and windy, there would also be A LOT of papers flying around. It's true, cause I've seen it in the movies :))

[@chickie3376]

I’m going on my first flight in 20 years, I’m so nervous for it, especially since it’s a long 6.5 hour coast to coast flight. I have a question- should I be worried about the ability or lack thereof of a rookie pilot? I keep hearing about staffing shortages so I’m worried of having a less than experienced pilot. Edited to add- I want you to be our pilot haha! Clearly you know what you’re doing.

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

Coast-to-coast is about all I ever do. All of that time in the middle doesn't really add to the risk, which is very low to start with. Pilot shortages have resulted in flights being cancelled rather than there suddenly being a lot of new pilots. And since your last flight, rules have been put in place for not pairing two relatively inexperienced pilots. Enjoy your trip!

[@xelj3294]

Kelsey: if the door did come open, it would be very windy. Me: I'm pretty sure there would also be a bunch of inexplicably present looseleaf paper flying around, too.

[@Ficon]

Ah good old Aerosucre. I'm surprised they didn't just bounce off the runway to latch the door and kept on going.

[@jeffrycarrascal]

That's probably what they did

[@Amros03]

I've had 2 doors pop open on me. First time was my very first solo. Instructor hopped out after a few landings with him in the right seat and slammed the door, but didn't think to lock it. Like you said, as soon as I rotated, I noticed it got louder in the cockpit. Looked over and though "oh....crap." Flew the pattern without incident and landed. Taxied back, leaned over and locked it, and continued with the next 2 laps. Now that I think about it...not sure I even mentioned it to my instructor lol. Aviate, Navigate, Communicate! Great videos and debriefs!

[@primecaptain8628]

Going to take shower, then seating on big screen, get to KZbin for few min video, I feel like it's a movie

[@christibritton1436]

Spider looked like somebody's pet tarantula. 1st husbands best friend had one, really friendly lil critter, we all liked it. Little black spiders, not so much [we have black widows in Oregon]

[@mwbgaming28]

I live in Australia, and that spider looks like a huntsman, they are harmless, I've picked them up before, they only bite if they are cornered and threatened, the bite is painful, and you might feel sick for a while (always good to go to the hospital and get checked out) but you won't die from it unless you have an allergic reaction I have one living in the corner of my ceiling, he eats the flies, and I have the best roommate ever

[@mattd6931]

Not harmless, they're deadly.... quite easily give a person a heart attack when they drop into your lap unexpectedly. :-P

[@JOHNWLOUCKS]

I thought it was a Huntsman also, big but not aggressive.

[@CheekiBreeki-mq2my]

what in the fuck is your profile picture bro

[@lesliemandic9673]

And I so have Australia on my escape plan in case #45 becomes #47.

[@philbayf]

The spider looks like a huntsman, they are big but harmless.

[@notme2day]

Hey Kelsey, My brother's a truck driver and he understands how his loads travel and how it effects his truck etc. He's had disagreements with the people loading his truck that want to load it differently. People who don't understand the math in essence. So I'm curious if pilots have input on how loads are arranged in cargo holds or is that done by others since you said you verify that the loads are where they are and secure preflight?

[@allangibson2408]

Most airlines employ loadmasters to load the aircraft. The pilots get a breakdown of what cargo is where but aren’t generally there for loading and load planning because it burns the limited working duty hours the pilots have.

[@stevenclark2188]

Those people need to get shown one of those videos on how unbalanced trailer loads cause instability leading to crashes.

[@justinmarko80]

Great advice, Kelsey. Honesty, tends to make it a learning experience, like you said, lie about something, a company can't use or trust to use you, anymore.

[@pearlkt]

Thank you for the warning. I am still traumatised from an air show accident in the uk a few years back. I watch you and Peter to cute my dear of flying

[@electricheartpony]

Mentor Pilot? Then there's also CaptainJoe

[@AusNetFan13]

Yep, honesty is the best policy.

[@82ndAbnVet]

It only happened to you once because it happened to YOU! It only takes one time to learn what you did wrong and not do it again (unless you're one of those SPECIAL people). I suspect it happens a lot like she said, it's just that it happens a lot to a lot of people, not a lot to a few people.

[@aveekbh]

Maybe it happens quite commonly (or commonly enough) on people's first flights - for the same reason Kelsey said - not shutting the door hard enough. Either way, "it happens all the time" is a good way to say - don't focus on it.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

Yeah, it sounds like the kind of "life lesson" that nearly EVERYONE has to learn "the hard way"... BUT also the kind of "life lesson" that you ONLY EVER have to learn once. ;o)

[@flugjung]

Thanks Kelsey for your viral aeronautical decision making lessons! I’m always looking for them with the same thrill of my favourite TV show.

[@noahwilliams8918]

Aerosucre needs to be shut down, they’re always crashing old Boeings.

[@dmsdmullins]

The door switches that give the annunciator light indication in the flight deck are not failsafe. There are many that have only one per door, and I have seen personally where one side of the door latches properly (the side with the switch) while the other side is entirely out of the locks. The door looks closed because you can't see light from because of the pressure seals but when you climb out the aircraft will not pressurize resulting in a return to field and a lot of fuel burned just to close a door. Been there done that.

[@masterdynamo6457]

That seems like an oddly easy design deficiency to rectify. A second sensor and an AND gate are all you'd need.

[@dmsdmullins]

@@masterdynamo6457 It's pretty rare actually. The door has to be out of rigging, it requires adjustment periodically and is checked during routine hangar maintenance. I have seen it a few times though so it is possible. Good news is that a door is not technically a structural part of the aircraft until pressurized and is usually quickly identified by the aircraft not being able to pressurize. This is not the same as a door frame cracking and catastrophically failing in flight.