My satire didn’t come off clearly enough lol. I actually like hybrids, I think they’re really fun. I Just feel as if LA is super strong in its ability to deal damage, it could benefit from being toned down. Damage of course does not mean battle impact, so it’s possible the spreadsheet will say these are fine. We shall see. Anyways, getting a lot of comments that show me that my point didn’t come across……..or people didn’t watch the whole vid 😂🤷♂️ whatever
@Like2trip4 ай бұрын
Is there a reason I can't shoot down planes from the LA? Was running a full speed AA Ohio and didn't shoot down a single plane from two LA that we're focusing me (I'm just lucky I guess lol)
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
@@Like2tripfull aa? If full I’d defo say you should’ve knocked at least one out of the sky
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
@@MickeyaBickey let um peek was an idiot, I’m not surprised you liked him 😆
@Admiral_Potato414 ай бұрын
@@DerkaGames someone actually referenced peek?? Good f'n riddance 😂
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
@@Admiral_Potato41 little brain time
@zwaezk_-25274 ай бұрын
Yeah the fact that you only really realize you are getting air attacked once your AA starts shooting is the biggest problem
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Strafe attack run like PC would be a nice visual
@Bruh_Im_Dead4 ай бұрын
I agree
@Bri-sr8dx4 ай бұрын
@@bumpydevoshire1067the planes don’t appear for a while most of the time, usually when I’m getting attacked the planes will not appear until they’re on top of me 😅
@Foxtrot_UniformCharlieKilo3 ай бұрын
PC player here, what you really need is a hud icon letting you know planes are near you to begin with, then (assuming you can turn off your AA for better atealth) change that hud icon to let you know they are within AA range. As a DD main of ol', I can contest how the staffing was there to stop DDs from being nukes by rockets, allegedly by letting the DD capt know where the rockets were going to land, but in reality just slowing the time between trigger pull and fire (and it arguably still hasn't fixed the issue).
@Foxtrot_UniformCharlieKilo3 ай бұрын
@Bri-sr8dx according to WG, the long awaited latest CV rework is, amung a host of other good and bad changes, do the same. Wish us luck in dealing with it without losing another 1k average players per effected server
@NotTheBomb4 ай бұрын
Say it louder for the thick skulls in the back. The constant plane spam is infuriating
@anthrax24134 ай бұрын
in PC, we used to envy console players because you had no carriers up to some point. Now, things seems to be getting worse there than in PC.
@177SCmaro4 ай бұрын
I don't know if it's worse than PC but they do keep dumbing Legends down. Carriers are just the latest example. Carriers don't have any utility or strategy anymore, they're just mindless free damage farmers. The fact that planes can now only spot for the carrier has pros and cons that hardly anyone is talking about. The tradeoff is, yes, it's nice not instantly being spotted from across the map for most of the match every time there is a carrier around but the drawback is it takes that stratagy out of the game. There is no point for a cv player to orbit destroyers or cruisers keeping them spotted because no one else can see them. You might as well just spam bombs and torps on the nearest target that isn't part of an AA bubble. Carriers basically function the same as a battleship but with even longer range, no spotting penalty for attacking, and can hit the backside of islands.
@anthrax24134 ай бұрын
@@177SCmaro At least these hybrid ships seem way more stupid. Launching two strikes with insane damage and not even having to pay attention and control the aircraft. In PC you get one bomber strike and you have to manually control them, leaving the ship vulnerable and unable to fire in this time.
@177SCmaro4 ай бұрын
@@anthrax2413 Yeah, again, they keep dumbing things down in Legends. Automated air strikes are just another example. I will say they do have one upside, everyone is so crap at aiming them with the wonkey controls I've yet to actually take a torp from a battlecarrrier.
@SirDenzington894 ай бұрын
It was always temporary. They were always going to bring it into line with PC. Gotta keep the content flowing
@SirDenzington894 ай бұрын
@@177SCmaroon the subject of dumbing down, it feels like they’re watering down any strategy and skill in legends. They’re putting out these small maps that negate any map or spotting range knowledge and ability to maneuver. It’s like they want to just turn it into a mobile game you whip out while you’re getting your oil changed. Everyone just rushes in, dies in 30 seconds and then off to the next game
@justinzacharias324 ай бұрын
Had a game against a double, triple division of Nebraska plus a solo Kaga that was so so gross I didn't play for the rest of the night.
@TheOmens6664 ай бұрын
Had a very similar game and instantly uninstalled the game. Reinstalled it 5 hours later as I've got to much invested to just bin it.Holding out for a big nurf are a carrier free option. Fake ships will ruin this game.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
@@TheOmens666the old uninstall 😅 at least you didn’t break your controller
@imperium-wc5fv4 ай бұрын
The Plane spam was going to get worse once they released that Dutch Cruiser and now you have those Hybrid US Battleships. It's absolutely ridiculous how this game plays now. I'm fighting the air more than actual ships.
@AtticusAureliusTrottimus4 ай бұрын
That's how most naval battles were... It's not fun, but I and plenty of others have been calling for years for more realism. They need to buff AA a bit..., in range. Like 20mm and 40mm guns need a range of 4-5km and the DP secondaries 7-10km.
@cbirdman4 ай бұрын
I think making catapult fighters more effective against planes would help with the problem. Seems like it’s very difficult for them to detect enemy planes currently. They pretty much have to be right on top of them to engage. Make them where they would completely stop 1 incoming attack. This would actually make fighters a decent choice again.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Cat fighters are super useless right now totally agree
@pinkyskeleton54104 ай бұрын
They really should make the CV fighters much better so CV players can counter each other and support their team by providing area of denial to the enemy CV.
@Like2trip4 ай бұрын
When CV were first introduced to PC they had separate fighter squadrons that you directed. Meaning you could in fact counter an enemy carrier effectively. WG felt that wasn't fun so they started changing things over time until we got this crap
@calincampbell51234 ай бұрын
idk if I want them being able to completely deny a strike outright, but I totally agree the detection isn't great and it seems like my fighter has a sub 1.000 k/d ratio
@Foxtrot_UniformCharlieKilo3 ай бұрын
@@Like2tripI believe WG's reasoning was that it was too complicated, and the community's reasonings were that cross dropping was too powerful, it was too hard to get good at CVs meaning only the really good CV players took em out, meaning that their issues were exacerbated, and I might be forgetting a 3rd
@waynefoster72462 ай бұрын
Those hybrids are not so bad, they still have to push in and they take damage, it's full carriers that are still a joke, torps that cause a flood, 30 secs later bombers for fires then torps at you again, all without being able to see them and there is no defence, you can't use islands or run away or use your concealment, you can't manoeuvre really either
@commander_thorn1864 ай бұрын
I like how they implemented hybrids in legends compared to pc. I however hate the carrier "rework" and think they're completely broken now. My go to example is a match in which a Kaga decided to focus me and I lost almost 50k hp in like 4 minutes. I was in an American BB so I shot down 50 Planes... However only his last sqaudron wasn't full. I don't think I have to say more.😑
@dankanubis13454 ай бұрын
I totally get that. I had a Kaga and a Nebraska target me the whole game and I shot down literally 70 planes. I'm sure some of them were patrol fighters but still crazy numbers
@177SCmaro4 ай бұрын
lol, 50 planes was almost as many planes as the real Kaga even carried. I believe she carried around 70 active planes with around 20 more in storage.
@Foxtrot_UniformCharlieKilo3 ай бұрын
@@177SCmaroshe was vary large for her time. Now a days the standard is between 70-90 (combat and non-combat) airframes for most, and just breaking 100 for the absolute largest, which are ofc, the US fleet carriers, or super carriers as they are referred to
@177SCmaro3 ай бұрын
@@Foxtrot_UniformCharlieKilo Well that and most planes are a lot bigger now then there were in WWII.
@Bellthorian4 ай бұрын
Aircraft Carriers are why I quit the PC version of World Of Warships. The game went from a arcade surface warfare game to a carrier damage farming simulator.
@177SCmaro4 ай бұрын
That's pretty much what cv's are in Legends after the rework the only limit placed on them is fuel. WG seems just as determined to eventually turn Legends into world of planes as they did PC. The only thing stopping them from already including subs is the old consoles probably can't handle rendering an underwater environment.
@177SCmaro4 ай бұрын
@@Nexesys WWII onwards carriers were/are a major part of sea warfare. But, you're right, the CV rework was a double-edged sword. Carriers are even less strategic now and virtually all about damage farming. I rarely play them but when I do anymore my only "strategy" is to go after the desoyer(s) first and once they're dead start looking for the weakest AA or lowest HP ships around and just start farming until the clock runs out or we sink them all. But most people seem to like the rework, however brainless it may be, simply because now they can sail around without worrying about being perma spotted from across the map and focused down but almost as many complain about carriers farming ability being even more broken then it was before.
@otf74664 ай бұрын
The BBVs have made BB positioning irrelevant. You work hard to position, protect your broadside, angle, dodge fire and now all that can be negated because lol, you now have to either eat the torps and not go broadside, or go broadside to dodge. You take three or four of the torps and that's a citidels worth of damage gone that previously wouldn't be gone (if you're angling properly). I honestly think they're a horrible addition. I've gone back to strictly playing DDs now, because they're king in this meta. Gone are the days of any sort of secondary brawling. No more banger atlantico matches.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
DDs are 1000% meta lol, bad DD play on my team is mostly what led to my 47% WR in LA
@177SCmaro4 ай бұрын
What's funny is DD's are more powerful than ever now with cv's not being able to spot for the team but no one is playing them. Everyone is playing the new battlecarriers. I'm seeing like 0 to 1 dd's in my games unless I play one then it's like 1 or 2.
@jcook8994 ай бұрын
Have switched to dd main not even because I really want to always played cruisers for all the reasons you said. Also helps with feeling like I can have a good match more often even if my teams throwing
@Foxtrot_UniformCharlieKilo3 ай бұрын
As a DD main in PC, please take care of your DD capts. It is not fun being the b- of 1/3 of the ships in the game while also having to spot, cap, torp, fight other DDs, farm BBs, hunt/dodge SS, CVs, and radar DDs, CLs, CAs, CBs, and BBs, lay smoke for team and use it my self to farm, screen for enemy torps, drawl gunfire by opening up while also almost never getting hit, and like 5 more things, all in the time frame of a single minuet, for 20 minuets, for every single game
@splatoonistproductions53454 ай бұрын
The fact that that I see 7 out of 10 games nowadays having at least 4 of these buggers is ridiculous.
@kanalight28984 ай бұрын
People just need to adapt. There is a lot of AA options and people go "nah full damage lol no fite survival no AA survival" then they go "uhh, why am i blowing up?" Also is a game, just enjoy. Gee people dont need to win 100% of time. Great video Derka! ❤
@highstrunglinemanlife18124 ай бұрын
The hybrids wouldn’t be so OP if the game limited 1 ship per game like CVN
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
I like this idea, prolly screws up match making tho
@neillwoodward60743 ай бұрын
Hybrids are easy to kill
@OTUS-I4 ай бұрын
The problem with the hybrid battleships are normal ships function like Rock, siscor, Stone principles, but the hybrid battleships don't act after this principles. They can attack you without being spotted or without taking DMG because seconds it behind Islands all mountains and center Planes to you because you are tactum and are you are spotted😅 Thats a Problem right now the onky Countermeasure you have ist stay13Km away so their Airstrike cant hit you ore Play DD and attack wit Torps. Nice Video and accurate detailing of the actual State of the Game😊d🎉🎉 🎉🎉
@177SCmaro4 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to say that train left the station years ago in Legends when they introduced carriers which significantly disrupted the "rock, paper, scissors" balance the game had.
@donbrooker38374 ай бұрын
Hey Derka, Thanks for the video. I realized how powerful Louisiana is when I got a torpedo drop on me and thought "6 torps, no dispersion? What's that?" it was the Louisiana, it killed me in my Vallejo. I have Louisiana now and other than figuring out the drops, it is a blast to take out. Guns are amazing. Very tough too. Carry on...
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Oof! That must’ve been a dev strike? Yeah Don these things are strong!
@solidtoto4 ай бұрын
Yep, welcome in World Of Warplanes, enjoy your time (not) fighting surface ships while being spammed to hell by planes. I guess it's even worse on console because of the lower player count per games, so you fight EVEN LESS. I laugh when i see peoples wanting subs for Legends too, CVs and Subs don't belong in this game, and yet the dumbasses still want them, they are clueless af.
@BigBadBeauD4 ай бұрын
Doesn’t look like I’ll get my hands on the Legendary this year, but the tier 6 and 7 are fun. Haven’t mastered the airdrop yet, but having fun with it. Thanks for the great video, man.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Im enjoying them a lot right now as well =)
@KMSDerpitz4 ай бұрын
As a German BB main, I've been getting shredded by these things and carriers. 😅 I still have my really good fun games occasionally. It's really fun to get revenge on a hybrid.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Sweet revenge!!!
@Nancy-ex4nd4 ай бұрын
Before hybrids CVs created the crossfires for the BBs, now the BBs are the ones creating their own crossfires at will. We went from a bit of teamwork to no teamwork at all. Gotta love WeeGee
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Setting your own crossfires with these things is their real power. I’d rec not brawling 1 tbh for that reason. Unless you’re prepared to take the 30k torp hit while you bow tank
@metajerk4 ай бұрын
the torps drop on the first little square of the aiming reticle, which you had over the island... took me more times than i care to say to finally examine where they land.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Sadge 😩 well hey, now I know!
@happyjester88724 ай бұрын
Completely agree! The final straw for me. Completely overpowered. Games just not fun anymore.
@Bruh_Im_Dead4 ай бұрын
It seems that the US ships are the most desirable ships now because of their AA. I kind of find it sad.
@Bruh_Im_Dead4 ай бұрын
I'm not saying they need to be nerfed, but they need to be changed.💀
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Yeah USN Bbs as far as the eye can see
@The_Soviet_Cat_22334 ай бұрын
American battleships are just op, I hardly get worried about others, Russian, Italian, German, all of them are okay, not too hard to deal with, but everytime I see an American battleship I just know that they're immediately gonna target me and hit all of their shells somehow, they've got no accuracy issues apparently.
@Bro_Im_Dead_Official3 ай бұрын
@@DerkaGames RIP British Battleships
@3_D-nz4nl5xh7w4 ай бұрын
Nice game Derka. Really hope WeeGee fixes the mini map. Too many planes hiding the boats. Gg🍻
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@crazzykanadian26854 ай бұрын
I played legends 3-4 hours a day I have signed in 3-4 times in the last 6 weeks it’s broken so tired of wargaming. Derka don’t take it personally when I unsubscribe it’s not your videos it just the game they support that I no longer can they pushed me out of pc 2 years ago and now pushed out of legends good luck and flowing wallets💰💰💰💰💰💰
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
I don’t take it personally 😊
@crazzykanadian26854 ай бұрын
@@DerkaGames good your videos are some of the best around 👍
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
@@bumpydevoshire1067 my guy, lemme introduce you to the “hide user function” on KZbin
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Ejecto seato cuz😂
@x40ozFan4 ай бұрын
Anytime anyone says anything about all the planes, the assumption is that they're poor player. I tend to refrain from speaking negatively about the game, because regardless of changes, I still have fun and do well. I play primarily CA/BB and understand the pro/cons of my choices. However, it is absurd at times now. Just way too much going on from above. I'm sure it will die down eventually, but having games where there's a CV, 3 Hybrids, and let's throw the mandatory Provincion these days is overkill. Maybe like CV, limit the amount per side and mirror ship type. Thanks for another upload...🍻
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Savage! Yeah I’d say it’s mostly those “battleship mains” that’s do most of the complaining. And I agree, I try to watch the mini map but it looks like the battle of midway up there lol planes everywhere. Like you say, maybe if they just limited one per side?
@alecduquette75004 ай бұрын
I've noticed that planes from both the hybrids and D7P don't count towards planes shot down for calendar tasks. Like 40 shot down over 7 matches of no true carriers and it meant nothing
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Oh interesting, that doesn’t make sense
@CallsItLikeISeizeIts4 ай бұрын
Yeah, cause it was “too hard to code
@cbirdman4 ай бұрын
I got 21 planes shot down in a non carrier match the other day. Crazy!
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Wtf lol that’s nuts
@Sujjin214 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've basically stopped playing. I just get on enough to stock up on weekly supplies and keep bureau projects going
@keithplymale23744 ай бұрын
The only problem I have with battle carriers is the reason why they were not built in real life is how vulnerable aviation fuel and bombs and torpedoes storage would be in a gunnery fight and that should be reflected in the game. I can only come to the conclusion that the people who did these saw the plans and did not do the deep research like I do as a life long student of history.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
That’s a valid point
@hamakaze13644 ай бұрын
for me its just not a fun game anymore, thats my gripe with the planes as there is little counterplay
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
I’d like to see my strafe run idea in action, it would give players a chance to dodge
@hydronpowers90144 ай бұрын
"The plane spam during the Pacific Campaign is broken. Please nerfed!" - Japan during WW2 fighting the US
@JoaoPauloZer0L4 ай бұрын
3:24 don't have a battle impact ,he says while nuking the poor ohio behind a island
@pigbay4 ай бұрын
Went a different route with blitz as well. Since our carriers are still the RTS carriers they gave them dive bombers
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Interesting 🧐
@BTKVENOM432 ай бұрын
I love when I hit a DD with these drops….killed at least 2 that I can remember….the Louisiana can win a game. I glad I was lucky to get it.
@DEATHRAGE1574 ай бұрын
An idea for battle carriers, 1- remove both the fighters and spotters, and allow us to call fighters in the map so we could help teammates with dealing with planes, and buff the fighters ( 2 on the t6, 3 on the t7, 4 on t8 and 5 on LT), then give us CV modules on some of the slots, remove plotting room and give us aim systems mod 1 on the first slot, there you go
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Cat fighters could defo use a buff, maybe the intercept a strike reducing its attack by a %
@CubeEarthTheory4 ай бұрын
In the original carrier version on PC, they would drop torps in the center of islands, and they would just go through the island and come out and hit you without warning.
@johnojeda39004 ай бұрын
Lol you drop your torts against the island. The transparent grid squares are an indication of your torpedo spread and arming distance. The white line is when your torpedo is armed and set to detonate on impact.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
😔
@johnojeda39004 ай бұрын
@@DerkaGames don't worry Im really bad with the new battleship. Literally I only hit like 12 torp in total. I don't know how to lead properly
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
@@johnojeda3900practice makes perfect I guess 😊
@Sapper201D4 ай бұрын
From a DD and CV perspective. These new delicacies are great!
@nozdormu894 ай бұрын
It makes me wonder whats coming next, WG had said these weren't coming to Legends and yet...
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
I400.....Sub aircraft carriers when?
@177SCmaro4 ай бұрын
@@DerkaGames Submarinecarriers, cruisercarriers, lol. Just load planes on everything, right? We're slowly becoming world of planes.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
@@177SCmaro😂😂😂😂
@sillysaili4 ай бұрын
8:13 the solid reticle is where the torps are armed (probably), there's a little... dashed extension to the reticle closer to you, that's where the torps are dropped (presumably)
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
=( live and learn. That drop could’ve decided the game
@TheOmens6664 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video 😎Way to many planes in a game called world of warships. Sure it's fun hitting 25k torpedo damage then stating a fire straight after. Is that any fun for the other guy though? I've been dishing it out and been on the receiving end of it. How is it any fun for anyone when half either team is dead in under 3mins. I've stopped playing most of my favourite ships because they are basically defenceless against against carriers already but with all the extra hybrids I can't enjoy playing them and I like a challenge, but this is dumb. Im generally a very aggressive player,, reversing to max gun range just means you cant take caps and looose on point before your teams is all dead. When you sporn center in a bb and and up to 5 carriers focus you in the 1st 90 seconds you may as well just head straight back to port and pick another ship. If it's not fixed soon I'll be uninstalling. I do agree that the hybrids can't carry the game also the torp aiming seems very glitchy. I've also caineed my commander xp and a lot of coins changing builds for aa just to get 5 to 10 games in a row with no plains at all. Chang it back to a dim build and boom 5 carriers on the red team and 3 on blue. The game ,right now is a mess. Let's see what patch day brings.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for your comment, hopefully you can find some changes coming that you’re happy with, hate to see players leaving
@russell78524 ай бұрын
Just because most people don't grasp the concept of crossfire abuse and how to avoid it doesn't mean it's OP. We still have rapid fire light cruisers that melt you. We still have way to many radar boats.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Louisiana is performing above avg id say… but time will tell. If the ship gets nerfed then we will know.
@calebhequembourg24794 ай бұрын
Honestly in my opinion three major things need to happen 1) Nerf Louisiana out of all of them that thing is the best and most OP the rest are fairly balanced in my opinion. 2) Limit the amount of battlecarriers in a match to like 2 or 3 for each side. 3) Some sort of warning for the torps being dropped lol half the time don't notice till right before they drop, but everyone is so ass at dropping them right now that they miss anyways LOL. Btw the reason your torps dropped on the island is cause they drop on the last square. If you look you can see that they have like 3-4 squares then the actual solid cone those squares are the arming time the drop in the one farthest from the solid cone.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Totally agree on the warning, played against several more Louisiana’s tonight. Can be hard to notice the drops!
@liamobrien-ib1rd4 ай бұрын
D7P is pretty much the only ship i can consistently do well and have fun in at this point, if your ship has base aa less than 75 and garbage concealment theres almost no point in taking it out in the current meta because you'll get smoked in about 3 minutes.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
D7p is honestly a menace! I fought against a few while I was in enterprise… not only is its AA insane it’s freakin TINY!!!!! Hard ship to smack with dive bombers
@ricolives11664 ай бұрын
Jingles call them the "no fun police"
@SirDenzington894 ай бұрын
Once these things got announced I realized why they changed the spotting mechanics. Can you imagine the hell it would be if De 7 and the battle carriers could spot. I’ve played a few games in the Connecticut. I’m working on the mission for that one first. The guns feel very accurate. I still haven’t gotten the timing down for the torpedo drop with the 12 second delay and mostly miss. The secondaries aren’t exactly bad either.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Full secondary build??? 😀 jk but I did hear secondaries were decent
@SirDenzington894 ай бұрын
@@DerkaGames I’m like that hot sauce brand, I put that secondary shit on everything
@ShawnF6FHellcat4 ай бұрын
The title summoned us War Thunder players to laugh and spam the "First time?" meme.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Bahahaha
@minzerleigh26914 ай бұрын
I get killed by you at the 30ish minute mark (virus) although that clip of you dying is my brother 😂
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Ggs fellas!
@THix-kt6me4 ай бұрын
Personally, I play the game for history. When CVs were added, it gave the full naval combat experience. CVs brought the downfall of artillery engagements, but there was a brief period where they both existed and I think that’s the fun of WW2 sims. However, Xarkun made a fair point that ppl who only want to play artillery based combat like the game used to be, are incredibly turned off by CVs and airstrikes. I get the frustration of being singled by a CV all game, but personally I think it adds a dimension to the game that improves it over all. Still agree with Derka tho that XP shouldn’t be so high considering you’re doing zero hands on decisions for it.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Yeah I disagree with Xarkun’s take on carriers, I like the dimension they add to the game as well. They’re here to stay and I do think people just need to get over it lol. Thanks for the comment
@177SCmaro4 ай бұрын
Subs also existed in WWII and they're not exactly popular on PC. Atomic weapons also existed in WWII, how far do we take adding dimensions to the game? The problem is this isn't a navel simulator it's an arcade shooter. Adding things that add dimensions to the game but break the shooter aspect of the game might not be the best idea. People don't like carriers and planes because there isn't any counter play. Planes get to do pretty much whatever the hell they want with few, if any, consequences, it's just free damage farming for most of the match. Fun for the carrier player, sucks for everyone else. It would be like if Call of Duty multiplayer had one player on each team who sits in the back of the map dropping bombs on the other players and there is nothing anyone can do about it until near the end of the match, maybe. How is it fun to play a game were the other guy gets to shoot at you and you can't shoot back?
@connertravanini7734 ай бұрын
Well put. I don't care if CVs are in the game, but at it's core it is a naval arcade team shooter, and anything that takes away from that should be balanced around the artillery.@@177SCmaro
@177SCmaro4 ай бұрын
@@connertravanini773 Thanks. And agreed.
@sunquestenergyhomesolution964 ай бұрын
@@177SCmaro People need to understand that it's "World Of WARSHIPS" not "World Of Only Battleships". I use every ship type and when carriers came to WOWSL I didn't freak out, I embraced it. Battle carriers are now here and clearly OP but it will get balanced over time. Same thing when subs come to WOWSL.
@mateusstuarts.dasilva79794 ай бұрын
Maybe nerf the torp damage in 10% and increase the air strike attack in 3 or 5 seconds. And other thing is buf all the AA, increase the AA range and damege in 5% or 10% and increase flak accurace to 10%
@Murph2754 ай бұрын
I came to this game late (2 years ago) and I LOVE IT. But recently with all the planes from cruisers and carriers and now hybrids ruins it for me. I barely get shot by ships now and only just dropped on the whole time. Sucks cuz I loved this game 😢
@Jt-yd3ij3 ай бұрын
The Hybrids and Tallinn are the only tech tree ships I own.
@G19Jeeper4 ай бұрын
I deleted it 2 months ago and I am so glad I did. 😂😂😂WG doing WG things. What else is new lmao
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
What???
@AtticusAureliusTrottimus4 ай бұрын
It would be nice if they added an air search radar consumable... Cause they had those in ww2.
@kjellmesch80604 ай бұрын
Yet another ship-type that people use by sitting tightly tucked up against an island and have free range on anything without having to take any risk what so ever. I'm sorry, this did not add anything good to the game.
@ACErob-me9ss4 ай бұрын
If there's a carrier and then a couple of bb carriers, it's impossible to heal fast enough from floods it's stupid imo
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Floods could use reworked in our game, the duration is too long. Perm flood is a death sentence
@garethdavies91414 ай бұрын
I enjoy playing them. I don’t have an issue against them, but there can be too many. I had one game I was attacked by a de 7 and 3 hybrids. Yes I was too aggressive but I didn’t last long. One good thing is they are great against afk players and they ruin the game far more than anything else.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Oh man…. That’s brutal. Yeah maybe they could limit how many per team?
@sunquestenergyhomesolution964 ай бұрын
I think WG will eventually nurf these torp. planes because for me it's crazy easy to dev. strike cruisers. As a CV main I can tell you these torp. planes on these battle carriers are deadly and super easy to use.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Yeah I could see that as well
@cybergazza21404 ай бұрын
They are enjoyable to play. However, i dont think ive seen a Russian BB since the CV rework. There needs to be an overhaul of old ships. I get powercreep, but some lines have effectively been wiped out.
@jamesprewitt15014 ай бұрын
I think buffing aa is a better option make it where good aa can knock a squad even on the attack run an undamaged aa cruiser should not be able to be hit from a carrier
@mikalcobbs94024 ай бұрын
Watching legends experience the same pitfalls of the original is great
@nutzz72444 ай бұрын
I don't mind the Hybrids but when you get 4 of them plus the carrier in a match that rots. They need to limit how many plane ships should be in a match.
@xshaadrackx19194 ай бұрын
It's supposed to be show shooting ships. All I do lately is dodge plains, didn't Even have to worry about other ships.
@bigfazza94704 ай бұрын
I think since the rework of CVs with battle carriers and D7P players in game ..AA needs to be reworked ..I think its horrible BBs with 100 rating can barely take down couple of planes
@SSS-xx5qd4 ай бұрын
I think the next thing to balance things out is the arrival of submarines to stun hybrid ships. This is something I see on the horizon coming 🙈😂😂😂
@Wild_Danimal4 ай бұрын
I played this game way too much before carriers, I remember when carriers had their own game mode and you could spec for dealing with planes. And they ruined it, a lot, hard 😿
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
For the record I’m glad CVs are in the game, and am enjoying battle carriers. I’m mostly poking fun of players who like to complain about planes 🙈
@donbrooker38374 ай бұрын
@@DerkaGames Sarcasm is strong with this one...hmmm
@dem0nicempire8814 ай бұрын
Considering so many ppl still lose playing these ships it not as busted as everyone say. So many should know there ranges and how they attack by now . But bb should have better torp protection I'd say
@Omalley694 ай бұрын
The only pro facing the hybrid ships is the secondary rips them appart. Bismarc meta ❤ ...ish
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Thats a good point
@griffingaming14503 ай бұрын
The amount of time ive gone into a game and it seems i either get focused by the aircraft carrier all game till im dead or there is a billion torpedoes coming at you from all directions from destroyer aircraft carriers or the hybrids. I feel like they need to nerf the damage and buff flood and fire chance at least then you can make more of a tactical repair and save youre ship becaye as a battleship ita hard to get out of the way of everything while getting shot at.
@David_Z2204 ай бұрын
Maine with better Armor at long range with planes that have 50k alpha and a 20% accuracy spotter plane that lasts twice as long. USS favoritism is real and will hurt you Yall 40 percenters defending hybrids or planes in general (except provincen) are part of the problem
@177SCmaro4 ай бұрын
USA is probably 75% or more of their customers.
@BMfins4 ай бұрын
I think they are fine. But🤷🏻♂️ Slow rudder shift can make it hard to dodge.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Indeed sir
@seizokobayashi73094 ай бұрын
😂i guess Dutch Cruiser line will be more pain than Louisiana lol, imagine tommorow they add Golden Luew
@kreed66644 ай бұрын
Id say they should just allow one battle carrier per team just becasue ive ran into so many games where its three battle carriers a normal carrier and a de 7 makes almost every t7 battleship is made almost completely useless in that situation. I played a mtach in my kansas with that same enemy layout 4 out of the five enemies with planes were attacking me at the same time and well kansas aint the greatest for dodging due to her speed but lets just say i died 3 minutes in got 30k damage and left very satly. Ive never heard say torpeodes to port so many damn times lol
@domenicm15554 ай бұрын
Like beehives all over the place every match
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
lol
@Bellthorian4 ай бұрын
Always turn INTO Torpedo strikes, not away from them.
@johnwpmusic4 ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR SAYING WHAT EVERYONE IS THINKING.
@GauzyGaming4 ай бұрын
Yeah but those backwards flying planes are ridiculous!
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Oh dear…. Gauzy is off his meds again
@crhispy70784 ай бұрын
Like I said derka, hell on earth
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
I LiKE HYBRIDS AND I LIKE NICKELBACK. ITS TIME THE WORLD KNEW THE TRUTH
@shanealvarez22794 ай бұрын
Game is honestly pointless to play now, i love seeing planes in non carrier matches
@captainredfive5464 ай бұрын
I feel like a hit to the health is all they need nerfed, my Connecticut is at 73,000 health after hull b upgrade which is crazy.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
They do have massive HPs, and the heals are big too. Louisiana EHP is 3rd best at LT only after Vermont and Ohio
@donnym34154 ай бұрын
The visual effects thing you talked about (the strafing run you mentioned that's on PC) doesn't make alot of sense. Torpedo bombers wouldn't really shot their MGs or cannons at their target. They'd be alot more concerned with dropping their torps and running away. Yeah a warning would be great, but I feel like a audio effect like planes diving or something would make alot more sense and be alot more noticeable in the middle of a match or fight
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Youre thinking about it too hard, it's an arcade game, not a simulator. But sure, an audio effect maybe that would work? unsure, if I'm in party chat with a div, id likely not hear that either
@donnym34154 ай бұрын
@DerkaGames I'm just using my thought process sorry lol. I was thinking using the stereotypical stuka sound effect you hear in ww2 games would probably work really well, considering how recognizable it is. It'd stand out alot when in party chats or div chats/sitting in discord. Just my thoughts though, ik it's a arcade game but I'm a history nerd so it kinda just comes out you know? 😆
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
@@donnym3415 okay maybe even I couldn’t miss the Stuka sound 😂 I honestly like that idea and if you don’t mind may forward it to feedback in the CV discord
@donnym34154 ай бұрын
@@DerkaGames go right ahead. Just thought it'd be a good idea:)
@taintedgooch4 ай бұрын
Yeah ive mostly been playing tier 6 arcade lately but seems like the silver you earn isnt great
@American-Made17764 ай бұрын
I don't mind the new hybrids. I only have the Connecticut so far. I'm not too impressed with it.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
I think they get much better as you go up? Maybe Idk, but LA is really strong
@177SCmaro4 ай бұрын
I think it will get worse once people figure out the wonky aiming of the automated torp planes. I haven't been bothered by the battlecarrier planes. I have been annoyed trying to find the citadels on these things. I've hit several flat broadside at multiple ranges including point blank and they just don't take cits. I have got one through the cheek one time though. The only real weakness I've seen is low dpm even for a battleship and the fight deck is pretty easy for dpm cruisers to farm.
@vaughnedwards17244 ай бұрын
Limit the amt of hybrids per game, I've been in games with 3,on each side plus a carrier 🤨
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
That’s not a bad idea, wonder if it would screw up search times and matchmaking
@Corkedwolf437714 ай бұрын
i really want the Star Trek themed ships but dang over 100 bucks for them like wtaf?
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
It’s that much??? =(
@Corkedwolf437714 ай бұрын
@@DerkaGames well if my math is mathing and 1500 DD is under 5 bucks {GBP} to get 37 DD is £109 {GBP] although you do get extra DD when you purchase them so 47k for 109 bucks
@justinchandler92024 ай бұрын
I believe aircraft carriers should not be in the game anyways and now it's even worse with the new ships
@TwistedTruthsYT4 ай бұрын
Why not if I may ask?
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately they’re here to stay, might as well make peace with it
@SSS-xx5qd4 ай бұрын
I have begun strengthening all the ships I own with strong aircraft defense and strengthening air defense instead of batteries to keep pace with developments and hybrid ships 😂😂 We must adapt to every new and action 🤣
@shao14234 ай бұрын
First time?
@hoffy50154 ай бұрын
Yea its realy painfull tu Play dis Game! Patch after Patch i lost more interest for dis Game
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
No one gets that the title is satire? lol oh dear
@QuacTheDuck4 ай бұрын
I totally agree that these "things" need to be nerfed. They are absolutely cracked... WG was probably back on that zaza...
@HOTANDFUNKY4 ай бұрын
1:36 this clip moreso demonstrates player error rather than the point your trying to make.
@connertravanini7734 ай бұрын
Another thing that I feel is utterly nonsense is that they have below water citadels compared to their normal USN battleship counterparts. There's no reason why they should be so hard to citadel with all that potential to do damage.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
That’s a good point, they already have massive amounts of HP
@vahngaming71074 ай бұрын
This is PC CV RTS way back before the rework.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Someone else said that, thought that was interesting
@howardbursee3074 ай бұрын
The strength of one tier does not equate to the others in a class. And could not justify nerfs on thers in the class not deserving of it.
@romallama444 ай бұрын
As much as I agree it needs a nerf, Colbert, Worcester, Daring, Shima, & Columbo all would need nerfs prior to this thing getting one. Hate when the B tier overpowered ships get nerfed prior to the ones that legitimately need one. The CV plane regen rate nerf for this update really saved the game tho. Tuning CVs up to asinine levels just so folks would buy Enterprise, only to nerf them back to nearly what they were but with less utility is a scumbag move by WG tho
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Colombo top of that list no doubt, agreed
@WEEPFORBALDUR4 ай бұрын
War gaming are scum bags. They use nasty psychological tricks to get you to use your money. The problems the game has are created on purpose so you spend cash on the solution. Have you ever noticed that the best commanders to combat the problems the game has are only available if you spend cash?They've been doing it for years on PC WoW.
@The_Soviet_Cat_22334 ай бұрын
Honestly, my problem is with carriers, not with the hybrid battleships, hybrid battleships feel fair to me, they're not completely invulnerable for the majority of the match, the planes are not impossible to avoid, and for the user, they're still a battleship, if you miss your torps, you can use the big guns no problem, meanwhile carriers are just untouchable for most of the time, they're nearly impossible to avoid if the carrier player has at least three functioning neurons, AA defenses on 90% of ships barely do anything to planes, and they honestly are not fun to play against at all, hybrid battleships are, they're fun.
@toons47104 ай бұрын
Well, they're going to keep adding new angles to the game like it or not. I've accepted that, and still have fun doing my regular shtick out there.... imagine if they had left the game with a simply larger ship base with the same abilities as say 4 years ago... imagine the complaining we'd be hearing if anyone at all was still around. Currently, my only complaint is games with a D7, 3 Nebraskas and a CV. I don't hate planes but c'mon.....limit this please.
@dieselfusion99644 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the new hybrids.
@DerkaGames4 ай бұрын
Louisiana is pretty addicting lol
@dieselfusion99644 ай бұрын
@@DerkaGames I've been grinding non stop Connecticut and Nebraska. Got them both out of crates. I cant stop playing them. Forward facing guns and long range torps. What could be better!
@vakten83234 ай бұрын
Don't nerf Louisiana...instead give the big boats the torp reduction they deserve.