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@XyrexGamingTV6 ай бұрын
Are you going to make one for every type of ship in the game! these are very helpful! :D
@Terence14677 ай бұрын
Sealord: Cruisers!, who doesn't like cruisers?! Me Literally getting burnt to death in a battleship by a jinan hiding in a smokescreen
@Applejuceee7 ай бұрын
womp womp
@Terence14677 ай бұрын
@@Applejuceee womp womp
@vitezslavlorenc34797 ай бұрын
nerf Jinan :DDD
@V12carlover7 ай бұрын
@vitezslavlorenc3479 nooooo don't Jinsn is too fun. It's armor is made out of paper and fireworks so if you can hit it they die quick but they are fun to play
@borayardimci82257 ай бұрын
Yea me too how can we solve that problem fr ?
@Lupus_Indomitus7 ай бұрын
"Point your bow towards the enemy team and simply refuse to die." Thats the most truthful statement about a line in wows i have ever heard.
@kodiak1387 ай бұрын
Im a cruiser player from the very beginning, thats all I played for 2 years and I will give what I think is the biggest problem for most of them take it or leave it. It is the first 5 minutes of matches, the dds roll out with us between them and the bbs. If the dd smokes when spotted(usually the same time a cruiser gets spotted further back but worse conceilment) you start getting focused on by every enemy. At that point the fruendly bbs have already started moving latterally so they are keeping their distance staying concealed and refusing to fire back at any ships because they want to remain undetected or other bbs shooting at your cruiser are still too far away for friendly bbs to hit. This scenario occurs constantly with the only option is not advancing foward to support your lead dd which is also not good for the team. I learned the hard way to play cruisers by playing the Japanese line(no smoke, no radar, no speed boost)for 2 years, nothing else. As soon as I played BBs it bacame easy mode for me, a whole other game that made me realize the best cruiser players are the best players in the game because you learned trial by fire.
@Jerry-LZ6 ай бұрын
Also to point out the other big issue that is even shown in this videos first clip right away - there’s too many battleships to deal with. 6 per team is a normal match up. Everyone wants to play a battleship now. Secondary problem is they shoot further than you so it’s not like you can easily fight back without over extending and getting yourself in a bad position. So you have a bulk of the enemy team that can hit you but you can’t hit them. Zao was my first cruiser too 👍🏼
@Shadow.247723 ай бұрын
@@Jerry-LZ what? it's been standard 5-6 BBs per side, a game, for over 5 years now. so it's not "everyone wants to BB now", it's, "nothing's changed". other then better snipers like slava and vermont being introduced that made things even more long range
@DashzRight2 ай бұрын
I played for 2 months and uninstalled and deleted this game, best decision ever.
@studentofhistory7187 ай бұрын
Thought the exact same thing on the pan Asian section "dump 40 torps......eat your heart out kitakami" lol
@V12carlover7 ай бұрын
Exactly. I'm happy it's underrated so it's doesn't get nerfed hopefully. Such a fun ship. You either delete half their team like a hero, or you get yourself deleted in the first 5 minutes lol there's no in between
@tonyfrance41007 ай бұрын
My Hindenburg has been getting a lot of play time the last few days. Booooooy I had forgotten how good she is. Currently working on the Spanish line, almost to Asturias!
@justinross74697 ай бұрын
I think it got one of those phantom wg buffs, I've noticed a few ships playing differently in the last few weeks. Hinde, Monty, Venezia. Not Zao tho still same ol Zao
@MartialEmperor63445 ай бұрын
Well u will see that the castilla has triple layered blackhole armour
@taiko12377 ай бұрын
20:50 You neglected to mention the turret rotation speed, which might if you're lucky be able to keep up with the local continental drift. At least in T4-5 it's much quicker to turn the ship than turn the turrets.
@tijger53537 ай бұрын
0:02 I dont like cruisers becouse they explode when looked at
@JLFillman7 ай бұрын
This.
@BladeCaptain-TRMN2 ай бұрын
I play light cruisers like really big DDs with Citadels. lol dodge, hide, obliterate.
@Stephen__White7 ай бұрын
I feel it makes the most sense to call the French and Dutch Battle Cruisers, Battle Cruisers. It seems a Battle Cruiser becomes a "Cruiser" if it has 330mm guns or smaller, but larger than 254mm at top tier. Meanwhile Battle Cruisers become "Battleships" if they have guns larger than 400mm at top tier. Both have effectively the same armour, and both fill the same role on a team. So it's fair to call both "Battle Cruisers". Basically large enough guns to crush other Cruisers, and fast enough to run away from anything their own size. Also I rather like the Dutch Cruisers, full AA build on Gouden Leeuw is funny and the air strikes are rather effective even without legendary mod. I've also never had the biggest issue with her guns ether, even though I've heard a lot of people complain about them.
@janboen36307 ай бұрын
I like the Spanish line and started using them in ranked, mainly T8 instead of Hipper.
@MartialEmperor63445 ай бұрын
They get pretty good at t8 to t10 and the t10 has triple layered blackhole armour
@jakubslavik55957 ай бұрын
I feel like Sealord had to get really drunk when he was talking about the Yodo line. Xd
@BladeCaptain-TRMN2 ай бұрын
Someone told my team that Yodo was not good, and not to play the line after I had suggested it to a few of our teammates. So the next clan battle the opposing team had two Yodo's, and I kept telling my guys to kill it kill it kill it now. they didn't listen to me, and those two Yodo's killed half of our team. JMHO, the Yodo is highly underrated, and if not removed quickly will rip you to pieces with it's 18 guns and multiple 15k Torpedos... What two of them can do in tandem is actually rather scary.
@xzarial66527 ай бұрын
Well put together videos and very informative for newer players!
@Joey_Liu7 ай бұрын
“Eat your heart out kitakami” famous quote from Sealord!
@V12carlover7 ай бұрын
That's how I felt when everyone was dumping all their resources to get that ship, I'm like, I already have a ship that dumps 40 torps, has better guns and better torp reload anyway
@TheJoe7Six7 ай бұрын
I recently finished the Des Moines and I am disappointed I didn't grind it out sooner. I mostly play battleships these days, but now I get to sit behind an island and burn those suckers down! I also like wrecking those little DD bastards that get into my personal space... Seriously though, I enjoy playing cruisers again because of Des Moines.
@Havok1355 ай бұрын
Can confirm, as a UK light cruiser player that played mainly on Co-Op missions....I forgot I was a light cruiser when I went into a battle with other players. Went up with a destroyer....got deleted by a BB and an 2 cruisers firing on me lol Almost at tier 9 though...so very close.
@littlefaith87407 ай бұрын
Looking forward to getting the whole commonwealth line. Other than that I tend to go back to the British or American cruisers. Though they all can be fun.
@Norbrookc7 ай бұрын
The problem with the commonwealth line is that they seem to be made of citadel.
@MartialEmperor63445 ай бұрын
Yeh they r a pretty obnoxious line of ships
@fresshell34117 ай бұрын
yesterday I had best game ever in Almte. Grau, blind fired DD in cyclone by minimap, deleted full HP Kidd in smoke, blind fired Halland after he went out of detection
@vitezslavlorenc34797 ай бұрын
King of blind fire here? :D
@fresshell34117 ай бұрын
@@vitezslavlorenc3479 more luck than skill :P
@WhermstDidIAsk7 ай бұрын
Zao will forever be my #1
@vitezslavlorenc34797 ай бұрын
Yeah I hope lot of people will play it. It explodes nicely.
@WhermstDidIAsk7 ай бұрын
@@vitezslavlorenc3479 only because people don't play her right. I average 130k per match with a 70% w/r in her.
@saviodasilva21047 ай бұрын
My too
@vitezslavlorenc34797 ай бұрын
@@WhermstDidIAsk How many battles and with division or without?
@WhermstDidIAsk7 ай бұрын
@@vitezslavlorenc3479 1k matches. Been playing since launch. Usually solo as I work overnights, so my buddies aren't usually on when I'm playing anymore
@justinross74697 ай бұрын
Don't be that mino that glides out of their smoke screen right into a BB broadside😂. I think every mino player has done this, you'd think you were trying to stop a Kremlin at 45 knots.
@joshuawakefield-luno9675 ай бұрын
wish had a time mark for each nation to make a lil easier to hear opinions on the nations
@Apollyon-er4ut7 ай бұрын
American, if you want to learn the basics of CA playstyle. Most of the ships are pretty solid, but their are some real sandouts in ability (Balti, Clev, Worc., & DM), but for sheer power Rusky line, which are still solid trainers, too.
@00spinz357 ай бұрын
I went Russian CLs , powerful but can be hard to play/use properly
@jiizzoniit6 ай бұрын
My first line ever was the des moines line,still is my only tier 10 i got..the hard thing to learn if you switch on other cruisers are the different pen angles..while you still shoot AP in an american cruiser you had to switch to HE 1 or 2 salvo before in an other cruiser
@frantiseksedivy51367 ай бұрын
Might I add that the US heavy line can and will citadel pretty much anything if close enough, I mean last stand brawling range, similar to DD surprising you from behind island, if you meet a BB at that range, at full broadside about under 5km, you can do it and thanks to the nice dispersion, you can hit multiple citadels at once quite well.
@MartialEmperor63445 ай бұрын
Yeh true and I got cit a Napoli of all things at close range got 2 of them like I was completely surprised as to wth my Des Moines pulled💀
@taiko12377 ай бұрын
Much appreciated, from a new, mostly cruiser and DD player who's currently trying to find a line that works for me at T6
@KENAXION883 ай бұрын
This was all very helpful. I mostly play German everything, so it's nice to know the strengths and weaknesses of everything else
@BladeCaptain-TRMN2 ай бұрын
I describe the Germans to new players as, better than average in all areas. Not the best at any one thing, but nothing really sucks. lol... Though I wish the Cruiser line broke off after Nurnberg, with the München and Mainz and follow on ships, as they are most definitely in the same flavor as the Nurnberg.
@logosprime91617 ай бұрын
I did a search yesterday for a video just like this. Perfect timing!
@frantiseksedivy51367 ай бұрын
Great video, still as a cruier rookie gave me quite a nice picture and I may make some decisions on what to grind next thanks to this.
@Harok95 ай бұрын
Is there a TLDR? I like to stay at range and or behind islands. whats a good line to go with? or is it yamato?`i heard that one is a sniper ship.
@MartialEmperor63445 ай бұрын
Well with cruisers it heavily depends on what role u want to play....want to stop pushes? Jinan line is best and yodo line is ok...want long range HE spamming?Nevsky,Henri and Hinden l lines r very good ..want island hopping? Worcester line is good and radar minotaur can also do it...want mid range and also island hopping?Des Moines line..that's more or less wht the roles of these lines r with some differences in the same roles
@MartialEmperor63445 ай бұрын
Other than that if u want to tank in cruisers by just staying broadside then Petro line is busted and if u want to outflank and delete ships then Marseille line and the Spanish castilla line r great...If u want mid range kiting HE role then Goliath line works well.other than that if u just don't want to die then San Martin line and then if u want to just delete dds and cruisers then Venezia line is nice ...in the end I will say that cruisers require skill and even in the same role they play different from eachother
@MartialEmperor63445 ай бұрын
If u like to stay at range then go with Hinden line or Henri line with heavy cruisers and with Nevsky line with light cruisers and if u want island gameplay then Des Moines and Worcester lines r ideal.these lines r tried and true and very good at what they do at their roles
@Harok95 ай бұрын
@@MartialEmperor6344 yamato is not good anymore?
@MartialEmperor63445 ай бұрын
@@Harok9 Yamato is a T10 battleship not a cruiset
@Verdha6037 ай бұрын
Love my cruisers; it’s just annoying the meta is set up to where the best cruisers are usually the ones with a radar consumable.
@MartialEmperor63444 ай бұрын
Best and most pressured by team mates and not necessarily the best because the radars ones r mostly mod to close range cruiser line except for the Nevsky lind
@jaywerner84157 ай бұрын
Um SeaLord a little Addendum. US Cruisers don't get their Heavy Shells until tier 8, just like the US battleships. The MAIN feature of the entire line however is their Superior Pen Angles, I forget the exact degree (I want to say you can get pens at like a 70-75 degree angle) But US Cruiser shells BITE at angles that every other Cruiser line would otherwise BOUNCE at. Additional notes for US Heavy Cruisers, The Pensacola and New Orleans both are sporting 25mm plating these days, thus they can face tank 14inch shells (very common at tier 6 and 7).
@jevinliu46582 ай бұрын
The angles are 60-67.5 for the US CAs by the way
@BladeCaptain-TRMN2 ай бұрын
Great video... a fun one that you might enjoy, how about Destroyers that should be Cruisers?
@jevinliu46582 ай бұрын
None really, destroyers are balanced around the fact that all battleship AP penetrations deal 10% damage and the fact that citadel hits and normal hits do the same amount of damage I was there before they nerfed battleship AP against destroyers, so I know the difference that makes
@Tundraviper417 ай бұрын
Imagine if they add a Panzerschiff line for Germany, the gimmick could be LOW number of powerful secondary guns with Napoli accuracy at tier 9 and above but with a much slower rate of fire.
@dashsocur7 ай бұрын
It would be rather tricky to do now as they already have at leat 2 versions of the Graf Spee as premiums. I suppose they could still add Scheer and Lützow and mix them up to cover a couple of tiers but then they would be literally making up designs to build a tree. I don't think any further design work was done on the concept as they were no longer bound by the displacement limits that inspired the design in the first place. EDIT: I suppose I should do some more research before posting. It seems there were actually 2 succeeding classes of paper designs (the "D" and "P" classes). Not much is known about them but they did exist.
@merafirewing65917 ай бұрын
@@dashsocur there's alot of designs on the Panzerschiff concept.
@nishithasapukotanage29527 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this for so long, love this style of video Literally my favourite type Would also love it if you did a unique list like best tier 10s to grind if you're an experienced player , judging the ships by the potential they have when played right
@greatsisyphus77127 ай бұрын
Appreciate this, it's useful to me as a returning beta player, thank you!
@Nightblood19796 ай бұрын
hi and thank you for tzhis awesome video. I´m new to the game and i can not choose which one from the light cruisers. the A. newsky ore the Yodo but i think the A newsky is the winner for me lol
@MartialEmperor63444 ай бұрын
Nevsky line do not ever go for the yodo line in its current state..Nevsky line is busted
@pezpengy93082 ай бұрын
i just bought a jackson, and im pretty happy with it.
@Boondocksts17 ай бұрын
British Light is still the best. Will never change my mind.
@RenYi_Abarai7 ай бұрын
Sea Lord Could you do a very indepth review of some coal ships for beginners? That would be very interesting say having 10+games to review it and really make it informative i have enough coal for my 4rlth ship I have cruisers brisbane and moskva and a DD neustrashimy BUT i still think i might picked up wrong ships im very bad in them....
@MartialEmperor63444 ай бұрын
Napoli it's extremely tanky and designed for close ranged brawls
@themysteriousguy37847 ай бұрын
Honestly DM should be considered a light cruiser with the amount of overmatch at t10
@petermiller10417 ай бұрын
Excellent summary Sea Lord. Carry on
@brynleesixx24037 ай бұрын
Nice!!! i was in there at the 19:35 mark....LadyBlood in a Napoli!
@ukchris645 ай бұрын
I don't like cruisers, I can never figure out where they should go, far too many have no heals either.
@sonnenwende55087 ай бұрын
Mighty Zao, of course.
@grim38507 ай бұрын
I didn’t understand the “evaporate like it’s 1991” joke during the petropavlovsk bit
@peterhineinlegen46727 ай бұрын
The collapse of the Soviet Union was around then. That's what I first thought of anyway.
@sealordmountbatten7 ай бұрын
Correct
@AlanRoehrich96515 ай бұрын
I have two tier viii U.S. cruisers, and about 90% of the time I despise them. I spend 75% of my time in them facing tier ix and tier x, can't get close enough to shoot anything, barely see anything, and barely scratch anything. The most miserable things I play other than that POS Cachalot I sold. The enemy literally has 6K-10K more range, and sees you at nearly twice the distance. The Baltimore sucks, the rate of fire is bad, accuracy is bad, all it has is an extra 6,000 hit points to give the enemy credits. At least the Cleveland has a decent rate of fire. And absolutely nothing else.
@fluffypuppy10407 ай бұрын
I enjoy playing in high-adrenalin mode so radar Mino is my choice.
@ImpendingJoker7 ай бұрын
Sure two business days but free shipping.
@cagangurer7 ай бұрын
With so many cruiser lines, I'd forgotten what they all do! Thanks for this video, can we have one for DDs, too? 😁
@SenseyTagava2 ай бұрын
1991 reference was brilliant ❤
@joecarlson64287 ай бұрын
Good review. With current meta, RNG, and the RPS lottery, I find most of the cruisers you mentioned difficult to play. Some of the difficulty is my average skill level. The MM seems to take cruiser slots for BBs, CVs, and subs. Tier VIII most games is one of sudden death. I would like to see your take on premium that are available using the various currencies, and the few that were dockyard ships.
@CalebGodwin-b2g3 күн бұрын
If I want a mid to long range cruiser with decent or good guns and armor what would I go with I love battleships but I hate the movement of them witch leads me to do horrible every game what would you guys recommend?
@necrofear31247 ай бұрын
Great video! could we get same for battleships ? (and in general, for all other classes ^^)
Anything and everything Comrade! Do NOT doubtski my choices!
@crow9177 ай бұрын
I'm running Dallas up to Worchester. Best way to xp out of Dallas is?
@MartialEmperor63445 ай бұрын
Best is to suffer in it and reach Helena from Helena to Cleveland it's smooth sailing after that it's suffering again and then there's Wooster which is a straight up frying pan
@pwo1287 ай бұрын
Good video. I swear that if Wargaming put a washing machine in as a cruiser, SLB could find a way to make it effective in the game. An enjoyable video.
@fedefedediego32664 ай бұрын
Can make a videos like BB/CL/DD/SUB/ PORT that, but with a comparation of table about diferent elements: Torp range, gun calibre, bla bla bla???
@gregcavender77983 ай бұрын
Hey, go to wow stats and you can see all of that and more, customize your choices. Sort them by your criteria (range, dpm, health, etc) It's a great tool
@MOrab460197 ай бұрын
Sea Lord what is a good Cruiser and Co op, Operations or anything else. Really want to get the Big Wisky.
@johnmedford72007 ай бұрын
Thx......always enjoy ur insight....
@jamesboudreau21213 ай бұрын
You mentioned the Illinois in the prelog but you never talk about it in the video.
@Scottyvt43 ай бұрын
"give a run down of characteristics and play style" Play style - Hide behind cover/smoke and spam HE. 👀
@kaollachan7 ай бұрын
one thing i like with the bomb airstrike is to flush ship in smoke. and yes the French line is just identity crisis all around XD, at a point i thought that the battle cruiser had longer reload than the BB line BB line : lot of gun but know idea where to put them also almost cruiser reload Henry line : i'm squishy so i gonna SHINE even more so people see me so i can shout more ( lighthouse) marseille well you said it XD the CV Béarn : i'm here to kill plane mostly DD line ( kleber for now) : zippy boat that act like close quartr cruiser to citadel other cruiser or even BB in some case (futur?) prenium sub surcouf : i m a underwater heavy DD XD
@hgh4257 ай бұрын
Most lines are a bit hit and miss. IJN is fine until T8, US heavy is good frm T6-7 and so on. Is there a line without a stinker
@sataniachya18407 ай бұрын
But where is the German light cruiser line and the elbing XD
@SkrapMetal847 ай бұрын
still want to know your thoughts on the Sims.
@wynlord7 ай бұрын
Nice break down
@Titancameraman12365Күн бұрын
DO İTS WORTH TO GET KİROV?
@unlivingskunk6 ай бұрын
I dog on the Spanish ships because I’m still in tier 4 and it feels like every tier 4 American ship can citadel the Spanish ships of the same tier
@boscodeluna25164 ай бұрын
Thats a nice resume
@MONTY-YTNOM27 күн бұрын
I still love my Full spec Fuji :)
@BlackHearthguard7 ай бұрын
The Spanish cruisers, it seems to me, are unpopular simply because they are squishy at low to mid tiers. I've gotten to Asturias and she's no better than a Dutch cruiser, and don't get me started on Baleares and Canarias.
@merafirewing65917 ай бұрын
We need a line of Kitakamis.
@wheel62437 ай бұрын
Worcester is pronounced 'Wooster' with 'Woo' as in 'wood'. Unless you're from there. Then it's WooStah. Otherwise, good content, as always. :)
@ironknights71967 ай бұрын
What about the commonwealth cruisers 😢
@nualanet7 ай бұрын
Living in Massachusetts, I do love my Wisstuh. I like cruisers. American Light cruisers in particular.
@ethansnumbers61884 ай бұрын
Where is Illinois😅 great vid either way
@admiralschroher21723 ай бұрын
“Why do you play cruisers?” 1: You can HE spam lol 2: I find cruisers good and I play 3: Torpedoes go brrrrr
2 ай бұрын
I love your vids, BUTT, i don t even own a T 10 ship...
@nufaruwu7 ай бұрын
Ship request de grease He only
@ELSOLDADODEOZ3 ай бұрын
the thing RN is that theres no such thing as a "short or medium range engocunters¨ all that here is in the game know is long range HE spammers, no one wants to push becose of the submarines
@ElmwoodCertified7 ай бұрын
My go to cruiser is the Agir!!!
@patrickprafke48947 ай бұрын
German Nurnberg is the most painful ship I've had to grind threw. uhg
@vincentpohe81174 ай бұрын
Tier 3 or 4 is probably best in my opion as new player any higher and you have no torpedos.
@cliffrawson2136 ай бұрын
For pure fun and ease of play the Pan-Asians are great, they're user friendly.
@Razgriz__16 ай бұрын
Anyone wants a fun drinking game, take a shot anytime he ends one of these clips taking a full AP broadside.
@TX2673XA3 ай бұрын
How long are your videos.... by the time I find out something my beard is growing...
@solidtoto7 ай бұрын
Nah bro, radar mino all the way! In this house WE BALL
@johnloy93317 ай бұрын
And I'm no good with any of them 🤥
@GrizzlyGains247 ай бұрын
Rochester's AA is Great Compared to what I am used to. Good Guns Good Accuracy. For a Level 6 Tech Tree Idiot. It Helps allot... I Do Recommend it.
@octaviusmorlock7 ай бұрын
I want to make a small note about British CAs: If you can, skip the Devonshire. It _SUCKS._
@otf74667 ай бұрын
And then theres Illinois. We dont talk about Illinois.
@sgrb3877 ай бұрын
Graf Zeppelin is my favorite cruiser
@MrDeductions3 ай бұрын
Done with junk Cruisers. Sick of being 1 shot Cited all the time. They need a fix
@billwalker95097 ай бұрын
👍
@vereferreus52624 ай бұрын
Comparing the dutch cruisers with the rest, especially the russian, it's clear wargaming hates the dutch. Can only be because of one reason: they are the best.
@scootypooper7 ай бұрын
hello
@user-vz2et1sg8c7 ай бұрын
Where is the cancer line of cruiser? Smolensk will take the crow of that line for sure.
@TheOtherBill6 ай бұрын
Retitle this video as "Which Tier 10 Cruiser Is Right For You?"
@sealordmountbatten6 ай бұрын
If you listen to what I say, I am discussing the entire line, yes I spend time discussing the T10, as that is the end goal of the grind
@Arturogatti54947 ай бұрын
Hello good people of you tube
@samuelhakansson66803 күн бұрын
Cruisers generally suck in this game, which is obvious once you get really good at it. Everything WG releases sh*ts on them, and if you need any more proof, there is a reason why WG limits BBs to 2 in competitive. BBs are just better in this game at both tanking and dealing damage (theoretical dpm is just theoretical in the vast majority of cases). You have to work hard for the results you could get easily in BBs, whereas for DDs you at least are compensated with higher WR to pay for the lower damage. Cruisers get none of that, even when you look at the statistics for the best players (because usually people say its a L2P issue, which statistics show is not the case). Cruisers are bad in this game because the average player is a BB main. Thus they have to cater to bad BB mains, who otherwise would leave the game if they didnt get rewarded with black ribbons every once in a while. Heck if WG opened up competitive to free picks between all 3 surface level ships, the meta would immediately devolve into BBs + gunboat DDs, and zero cruisers. Also to prove a point: You play these boats in coop, as its obvious that you would struggle to get good footage for cruisers if you did this in randoms (sailing flat broadside like a potato).