AirPort Pro - How Apple DESTROYS Wi-Fi!

[@ReneRitchie]

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[@alessiorossi]

Wi-Fi 7 AirPort Pro would be the perfect companion for the portless iPhone… 😉

[@jamesthompson3099]

Yes.

[@sharrietech4256]

Apple, take all my money for an Apple Router. Please.

[@AndrewGiddingsWA]

I would need a mesh system in our house. I have our second Eero (1st gen early adopter to the wifi 6 version). I'm bit nervous that Amazon bought them.

[@DavidA20200]

Don’t give me wrong I love my Netgear Orbi AX6000, but before that I had an airport time capsule and multiple airport expresses throughout my home and loved them!

[@WadeHumeniuk]

Bring back the AirPort Extreme, the routers that I have “upgraded” to have never been as reliable and stable. I like the idea of Apple devices becoming a mesh network.

[@FromScratchWithLove]

I still use AirPort Extreme AC’s and they are, to this day, still the most reliable routers on earth. And they are faster than every Wi-Fi 6 router I’ve tested, still. They run my 1200mbps connection and broadcast it with less than a 1% loss. Average Wi-Fi speed in my house is 997Mbps, and that’s just due to the 866AC devices dragging things down.

[@nickmhc]

My ASUS RT-ax86u is great and I love the management app, but I trust Apple far more

[@WadeHumeniuk]

@@nickmhc I tried 2 different ASUS, but both died after 4 or 6 months. Warranty repair, but only lasted a few months more. Gave up on them, now have a TP-Link AC4000, though my previous TP-Link lasted a year and a bit. I do not think it was the software but just marginal hardware. I still keep my AirPort, gen 3 I think, around in case of emergency.

[@kenf3539]

I still have an AirPort Extreme in use, and take an Express with me when I travel - just in case the hotel still has ethernet. If they do, I can have have my own private Wi-Fi connection.

[@alanmay7929]

@@nickmhc lol….

[@airbedruad]

This is a subject I have been wondering about for a while. I have often thought of and love the idea of HomePods acting as mesh routers. Everything I have thought of, Rene, you voiced it perfectly.

[@ezn]

Imagine if it wasn’t just homepods. What if macs could be mesh wifi nodes too instead of just clients. What if all your idevices could be mesh nodes? Imagine if an iPhone wasn’t just a client on the network but also contributed to the mesh. Maybe it could even have an option to contribute to the internet speed of the network using its own cellular data (optionally, obviously, and only if your cellular service was beefy enough).

[@airbedruad]

@@ezn Helium networking and Internet of Things!

[@funhaos]

@@airbedruad I should have read your comment. I said the same thing

[@Viggen61]

As one who still rocks AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express devices, I most heartily agree!

[@Superz3ro]

You and I are on the same cruise… Grooving along with a 2TB Time Capsule, AirPort Extreme, and Airport Express… …

[@airbedruad]

@@Superz3ro I’m on board as well, with a 5th Gen Extreme and a 2nd Gen express. I’m looking on eBay for a 6th Gen extreme.

[@Superz3ro]

@@airbedruad I was going to say, not if I get there first… But you already thought of it before me… …

[@TheMysteryDriver]

I use Extremes the AC ones I think 1521 is the numbers. They're great and despite what people say I can hit over 900mbs on a wired connection to it.

[@airbedruad]

@@TheMysteryDriver for most people mesh is actually over-kill. 802.11ac (WiFi5) is perfectly stable and fast enough for 90% of houses. If you hardline routers in a “roaming” configuration you can get perfectly acceptable coverage even in large homes without sacrificing a band for backhaul. The disadvantage to .11ac routers is the limitations on the number of smart devices in your home before overall performance suffers. That is where Apple re-entering the router market would make me squeee.

[@itsfonk]

You’re a mind-reader, Rene. This is one of the many reasons why I so appreciate your channel! 🤙

[@jSyndeoMusic]

The AirPort team largely moved on to Ubiquiti Networks, where they formed the UniFi team. UniFi routers and network equipment are all VERY Apple-like in terms of ease of use, design, packaging/unboxing experience, and more. I moved to it a couple of months ago, and it really is the new AirPort.

[@danydepp8487]

After steve jobs passed apple effort to create nice and ahead tech products decreased so drastically that now they only focus on release new iphones in rainbow colors and macs with iphones processors... we miss so much steve. RIP.

[@CreativeIsolation]

Rene: “Super easily,…barely an inconvenience.” Ryan: “Super…. Hey, that’s my line.”

[@RBiscuit555]

Same here

[@ElevationEveryWeekend]

Yes!! They could clearly promote this as a privacy move too. Interested in the Eero but concerned now that Amazon owns it.

[@abbofun9022]

Indeed, was a showstopper to me as well. Gone with Linksys Velop mesh now, HomeKit capable, just a few weeks now but so far reasonably satisfied. Expensive though.

[@terryrodbourn2793]

Then go for new Synology 6600ax when it comes out!

[@ElevationEveryWeekend]

@@terryrodbourn2793 I’ll check it out

[@L0n3W0lfBl4ck]

I went with a Synology a few years ago because I didn’t want anything owned by Google, Amazon.

[@robertp457]

@@abbofun9022 Imagine how expensive Apple's solution would be.

[@markhollis5850]

I am still using my Apple AirPort Extreme towers. I own three. There is no wait for an Apple device to hook up to them. They are physically wired together radiating WiFi all over the house. And they have four Ethernet ports on the back of each one; many WiFi routers have only one and an uplink. Managing them is a snap on the Apple app on my phone, tablet and computers. I realize we have a new type of WiFi but nothing I have tried beats these.

[@wayneingram9233]

Thank you Rene - I finally and reluctantly retired my Airport Extremes & Expresses for a Netgear Orbi mesh system. They are fine, but an Apple product/concept/experience would be my first choice. We live in hope!

[@TheSensires]

I so want Apple to do routers again - I recently switched to a 2 x 1Gbps Fibre connections plan and added a Linksys AX4200 alongside my 9 year old Apple Time Capsule G5 to handle both connections. On paper, the Linksys beats the Apple Time Capsule in every regard - from processor speed to ram to wifi 6 vs 5. And I had assumed Linksys would have gotten positive influences in network/firmware design from Cisco by virtue of having once been its subsidiary. Boy was I wrong, even after allowing its firmware to stabilize over more than a year, my 9 year old Apple Time Capsule still outperforms the Linksys in terms of reliability, stability and EVEN speed and throughput. Somehow Apple Time Capsule's implementation of TCP Slow Start also works to ramp up faster than my spanking new Linksys - resulting in noticeably snappier performances than the spanking new Linksys. I had originally routed bandwidth heavy and latency sensitive devices to my new Linksys thinking it'll be faster, but have now switched around to my 9 year old Apple Time Capsule instead. So yes, please make routers again, Apple!

[@dolph9913]

I'm still rocking 2 Airpot Extreme's (2013) They are still good enough for todays usage, for gaming & streaming wifi.

[@JohnPretto]

YUP, I have four still running. One died recently.

[@shanemitchellspencer]

Same! Thinking about picking another one up actually. Unless you live in a mansion, you don't need all the features of the latest WiFi standards.

[@hamradiojim6788]

Agree 1000%!! I'm struggling along with my AirPortExtreme and it seems to do OK, but it's certainly not up to today's standards.

[@fredg8814]

Still better then the 600$ wifi 6 crap i got from the Apple Store and sent back after 2 days of shitty wifi and shitty network app.

[@harryseaward3408]

The only thing better than an Apple wifi router would be Apple investing in and integrating something like StarLink to give a secure/easy ISP option for the masses.

[@marceloecalves]

Besides bringing the AirPorts, Apple should also bring back the original HomePod and continue working it to be part of an integrated home theatre system paired with HomePod minis as rear surround sound.

[@YD_.]

This aged perfectly

[@marceloecalves]

@@YD_. still can’t pair with HomePod minis

[@YD_.]

@@marceloecalves true

[@JZ6563]

Yes, yes, yes! I have used various post AE routers / mesh systems and none have impressed me as much as the AE line/s did when they were in production/ supported. It baffles me as to why apple just let it go. Networking/ WiFi is ever evolving so there is always a need and room for growth in the line. I hope apple is watching and listening. RR definitely hit the nail on the head with this one in my opinion.

[@nitesh-maharaj]

Believe it or not I am still using my Airport Extreme as my main router, mainly because I'm afraid of letting in another brand of router into my home. Perhaps removing Airports at the time made sense, but I think it makes more sense than ever to bring them back now. Let's make routers great again!

[@nathanc2222]

Although I am a HUGE Apple enthusiast, Also being a network nerd makes me torn. The people that enjoy/need to have more network control tend to already have their own preferences of equipment. Being able to manage and segment all of my devices with hardware that costs a fraction of what Apple would likely charge is going to be a tough sell to me. I’ve gotten over the learning curve of PfSense and Sophos with both feeling like second nature now. Id love to see Apple compete with the giants in this category but sadly I don’t think they’d even try. Loved the video though, always a treat when you upload!

[@thejpkotor]

I would really like to see them put out routers, switches, NAS appliances, and servers. Their implementation of the interfaces and software for these types of things in the past have been revolutionary. Sadly, like their defunct Xserve series, they just aren’t committed to that market and don’t offer competitive price points. Unfortunately, they’ve realized there’s a lot of big players already in these spaces and they prefer to play it safe with just consumer and pro-Sumer products than to put out any offerings.

[@TheMysteryDriver]

A lot of people still use Apple Airports, I've got 3 in my house and a Time Capsule. They're still better than most new routers and if there's a power flicker they don't restart like velop or orbits do.

[@garybrockie6327]

I went through this recently. I had to upgrade my network to WiFi 6 and decided to get s mesh set up. I was a little mad that Apple no longer made routers. I finally decided to buy an eero pro setup. It is the most Apple like setup I could find.

[@Caramelito80]

It's 2024 and I'm still using 2 Airport Extremes and 2 Express all hard wired to the main router, and it's beginning to show it's age after 14 years of continued use. Will need to upgrade soon. Any suggestions? Was looking at Orbi 6e or Deco 6e?

[@orl2222]

I miss apple routers. When the original airport express came out it was a audio nerds dream. It was the only cheap extender out there. the optical 1/8 jack would out put to your home stereo equipment at 16/44 CD quality sound way before all the high res streaming services. Let's not forget turning your printer into a wireless one, long before wireless printers came into vogue . In fact I still have a original airport express that I bought last year on eBay.

[@debbiebridygham9230]

Since  discontinued their WiFi products, I’ve used third party WiFi routers and NAS to substitute, it hasn’t been especially reliable even when purchasing high end products and configuring them properly, I’d love for  to go in the direction you describe. With all the effort they are putting in to create their own cellular modems, surely it’d be a no brainer

[@peat381low8]

I want Apple to have AirPort routers working like Plume’s mesh network of Superpods with Wi-Fi 6. I have 3 pods one for every 2 rooms. And I have the fastest Wi-Fi everywhere.

[@bunkie2100]

I was unhappy giving up my Airport Extreme routers. I am *deeply* distrustful of the typical made-in-China routers available from the big companies. I am especially distrustful of those that require an app to configure. In the end, I went with the barest routers I could find, repurposing a Mac Mini running PFSense as a firewall. I would happily go back to an Apple solution, especially if it support mesh.

[@siamac7705]

As a former AirPort Extreme owner I’d love to see this. The one additional feature I’d need, but is probably unlikely for Apple, is the ability to add a router level VPN service and the ability to control which devices use and don’t use the VPN.

[@Transforming2024]

Amazing idea Rene. Bring it back Apple.

[@ChristopherMarshburn]

Very tiny detail but I really like the button down look. Refreshing change from the typical hoodie/ball cap/t-shirt “I am a tech influencer” look.

[@terryginther]

Hi René, love your videos and generally agree with you but in this case I believe Apple needs to acquire a company like Ubiquity, which in my opinion is the “Apple” of the networking industry with a software-based networking infrastructure that completely and seamlessly integrates all their products very simply and elegantly. Adopting new products, whether it be an access point, doorbell or security camera happens with the click of a button. About a year ago I trashed all my legacy networking equipment and began replacing it with ubiquity and have never looked back. Most Apple users wanting simplicity can go with the Unify Dream Machine, and add things like access points as needed. I used to love a Apple Airports for their simplicity at the time. Now after using Ubiquity, given the constant evolution of networking and security, users are better off going with a company focused on this. Ubiquity took a page out of Apple’s playbook and they deliver networking products with the elegance, performance and security that any Apple user would be happy with. Apple would be way ahead of the game to acquire them, then go under the covers to add specific features for AirPlay configuration/management, etc. No reason to create an entire set of products…

[@reallyzero3511]

I have used the same Apple 802.11 N Router for 17 years. The thing will not die. Had to pay Apple $5 to enable 802.11 N on my Core 2 Duo 20 inch iMac. Weird times.

[@flyingtost]

Nice conclusions, but I think you just missed one of the key aspects, homekit with matter & thread!! This would be the perfect hub & mesh! :)

[@scottscottsdale7868]

Apple also must upgrade their music streaming hardware. An Appke TV Pro should also include some kick ass audiophile tech so people can use actual good speakers to listen to Apple Music.

[@fredg8814]

Y’a like quick access to reduce loud sound option and output setting to switch from surround to stereo.

[@djdentley]

Connect ATV4K to a AVR.

[@bossgirlz1012]

Yeah it was called HomePod

[@ElderStatesman]

0:17 Just so you know, Apple used to sell or package the third-person shooter game MDK (Murder Death Kill) with their old iMacs, the Bondi Blue ones in the late 90s. Back when Apple had a slightly-serious interest in games. Too bad they let go of something as ground-breaking as Halo.

[@AndrewCortesi]

I still have an AirPort Extreme and it still works flawlessly (compared to other somewhat unreliable routers). But you’re right, they should venture into networking gear again so it allows for more seamless HomeKit integration in the Apple ecosystem. That’s definitely something that’s constantly dropping upon updates or whatever other compatibility issues with third party devices. “Super easy, BARELY an inconvenience!” lol

[@pac7025]

The reason I think Apple nixed their networking gear is because they were also NAS devices. Apple would rather sell you cloud storage as a service cause it’s more profitable.

[@WadeHumeniuk]

For secure backups you need something cloud like. Offsite reliable backups. I would rather a company like Apple handle all the replication and system grot required

[@shadow.banned]

I will never pay for a cloud subscription service. Ever.

[@mazenhakeem4156]

I believe that you can add additional services like having your iCloud added to the Reuter instead of having it on Appel cloud

[@beardymcbeardface69]

With Ubiquiti WAPs running OpenWRT, there is nothing more I want for my WiFi.

[@donotswallow]

This might be crazy, but how about bringing back the HomePod, and throw a router in it. Then the HomePod Minis are mesh repeaters.

[@alonsomendoza1775]

homekit, thread and matter enabled too also apple vpn service via icloud.

[@GeslyT]

They should buy Ubiquiti. That would put them on the map, with what I think is a great Apple like product!

[@DaveHebert400]

I'm still using my 2TB AirPort Time Capsule as an access point in my work office (our on-site WiFi is terrible). It still works great, both as a router and as a drive to backup my Mac/etc. to!

[@ElvisImpersonator]

Always appreciate your thoughtful analysis. I suspect the reason Apple got out of the WiFi and even the TC business is it's a constantly evolving technology in a low margin saturated market with a huge customer support overhead. There are just too many players in the WiFi and NAS market that do a much better job. (e.g. Engenius and TrueNAS) Allows Apple to quickly deflect any customer support calls.

[@dougtheriault9854]

I’m still using my AirPort Extreme. It’s 12 years old

[@Lzanocco]

Gosh I hope this happens. My Airport extreme is aging as are my Airport expresses. Since they are no longer updated…that’s a problem obviously. But the dang things are still rock solid. They go several months without even needing as much as rebooting. They achieve amazing 1 gig speed even from 6 yo tech.

[@ArguingMeadows]

I really wish Apple would get back into the router space. I'll never upgrade my Time Capsules with other routers, they're just so easy to manage and work with. There's just nothing on the market like them.

[@wellfleetion]

Me too. I just wish mine would not give a false overheating message and then stay amber. Works fine otherwise, including TimeMachine.

[@alanmay7929]

That’s what she said lol…..

[@jimtincher7357]

No thanks, I have a mesh that works perfectly after Apple dumped their wifi. The only think Apple had that I really liked was being able to plug my stereo into the Airport Express and play music from my iMac or iPhone.

[@Soccerkid-m9p]

I would totally go for this. I loved Apples Airports and Time Capsules. I begrudgingly gave up my apple Wifi system for Googles… but I still use my timecapsule for time machine. Everything you said makes sense.

[@nielsdam90]

Many brands such as Tp-link and Netgear offer great mesh systems with easy to use interfaces and easy set up at pretty much half of the price a comparable Airport set up costed back when Apple still offered them. Honestly, I don’t see the need to pay a premium for a new Airport just because it has an Apple logo and Axx chipset in it.

[@jeffhoward6497]

You missed it totally. What Apple needs is an M1 Max powered HomeKit hub with huge AirPlay 2 audio routing capacity (25 streams +), AirPlay based 4K/8k DolbyVision video distribution, support for 500+ HomeKit devices, 10Gb network distribution and easy manageability. Marry the AirPort Extreme, Ubiquiti UDM Pro, and HomeKit hub into one set of devices.

[@NC_Ellis]

I would love Apple to come out with a Mesh Wi-Fi System with a lot of HomeKit/Security features built in. Especially with Wi-Fi 7 being announced yesterday and looking to be released by the end of this year.

[@PointWithin]

This would be an instant “TAKE MY MONEY” product and service

[@awarepenguin3376]

I agree 100%. So much Apple kit needs solid wifi to function properly. But knowing Apple it'll only be configurable with a Mac or iPhone, no WebGUI haha.

[@keithpinn152]

Hi Rene: I wish that Apple would bring back there WiFi devices, but just as important to me would be to get Apple to bring back Apple Aperture. I am tried of being locked to Adobe Lightroom. Cheers, Keith

[@bigboyg209]

I never understood why they stoped making them. They were great. I never had wifi randomly disconnecting until I switched to nighthawk routers.

[@ADN1971]

I agree Rene, I loved my Time Capsule. I was so annoyed when the constant power outages we had here a few years ago fried mine. It was a great 2 in 1.

[@johnnysokko2004]

Yes, then maybe my HomePods would finally work: “I’m having trouble connecting to the . . .”

[@simongross3122]

I used to have the Airport stuff. It didn't really work properly and it got seriously hot.

[@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony]

Apple definitely should bring back the Airport eco system. I’ve been saying this for years. The software was great. The hardware was great. I still use one of my old Airport Express for a private network for an iPad, or for remote uses. I’d really like to see this happen, because I don’t trust many of the companies making mesh routers and other WiFi products.

[@ghiagoo]

A friend of mine is still using the original AirPort Extreme. Won’t be able to soon as she has to upgrade her internet plan. Mine lasted for many years.

[@thuff3207]

Rene this is the exactly what apple need to do. The apple routers just worked well and nothing today works as well. Why I hate being a IT guy making wifi work.

[@staterafukumoto]

it broke my heart when apple discontinued the airport routers i work in IT and i CONSTANTLY had issues with my clients tplink devices, the weak radios in the netgear routers... but you know what just worked, and did it all well when i came home? my trusty old airport extreme. i moved and my home is larger now, so i switched to an eero mesh system that i'm... content with... and i have my airport extreme mounted on the wall as an art piece, in dedication to something that just worked.

[@RickP2012]

Apple doesn't innovate like it used to, it simply replicates slowly and when the products have run their course it kills them off.

[@ahkl77]

Nailed it Rene. Legacy Air Ports are still selling on eBay as we speak, their longevity is legendary. My 💔 when my 8 year old AE finally fizzled out and failed to switched on when plugged in.

[@mateusvahl5072]

Sometimes I just wish apple did more products, they don't need to be revolutionary, just better than others & looks good.

[@alanmay7929]

Yeah and cut versatility right!? There is a reason why other products are way more popular than apple.

[@richardclarke1922]

I'm still using my AirPort Extreme at this moment I LOVE IT

[@sekaf4125]

Long time apple user since 1992. YES. I’m still using their Airport. PLEASE apple. Bring them back

[@Slurkz]

Apple should hire you: so many amazing ideas! Thanks, Rene.

[@ohntop]

I want to live in the world you're describing Rene. We still rock an old school extreme and mourn the days when it was our only wifi port

[@PassiveSmoking]

I replaced a Time Capsule that was really showing its age with a Velop mesh and a NAS box. It's not a patch on the old Time Capsule.

[@movdqa]

I'm using a 2010 AirPort Extreme for the first and second floors and it has been flawless though out-of-date. I could go for a new Apple Router. I read the reviews of high-end routers and it seems like they all have issues.

[@scottpolasky]

About a year ago I upgraded from 2 bridged functional Airport Extremes to Netgear Orbi AX4200.

[@Sacto1654]

It may not be such a bad idea if Apple can dedicate something like an A13 SoC specifically for a router that works with the upcoming WiFi7 (802.11be) standard at 2.4, 5 and 6 GHz connectivity.

[@alonzosmith6189]

There are some many options available. PFsense, OPNsense, Untangle Gateway Ruijie Gateways, etc. Apple does not need to be in every market.

[@Youtubedotcomma]

I’m still rocking a time capsule and iv been tempted with a ubnt set up but until the time cap fails it stays! Fingers crossed apple dip back into router before it does and I can continue using a apple network routers!!

[@Youtubedotcomma]

I’ll assume this is a scam

[@500010869]

I have an airport STILL… that thing is going on 10 years

[@falcon81701]

I had an AirPort Extreme and although it was reliable and easy to use, it was very limited in functionality. Its a toy compared to my Asus Router which has been just as reliable.

[@IanMcCausland]

The more I read about zero-day exploits I wouldn’t be surprised Apple abandoned a fully connected mesh network of their devices for security reasons

[@ORGNLPLN]

Ahahahahahahah!!!!! That was the best subscribe plug in KZbin history!!

[@mbefring]

Yes to Apple Wi-Fi.

[@ShervinShares]

top secret... Rene Ritchie actually works for Apple R&D team

[@ratanasorn8080]

Can’t wait to board my next flight at Apple AirPort Pro

[@ryanfraley7113]

What if Apple used mmWave spectrum for private multi-gigabit wireless in home in conjunction with Massive MIMO and OFDMA. To me this seems quite familiar…

[@alexnoyle]

I think that would have health concerns. You’re not supposed to keep your cell phone near a baby, so it’s probably not a great idea to blast every room in your house with mmWave

[@ryanfraley7113]

@@alexnoyle This would be nowhere near as powerful as a cellular connection.

[@alexnoyle]

@@ryanfraley7113 maybe not, but it’s a lot more wireless radiation than today’s WiFi, and if you inhabit your home for most of your life, every room having a transmitter/receiver, that’s a lot of exposure over a long time period.

[@dang3]

I want them to make an updated version with Wi-Fi 6e and gigabit wired for faster back up and networking speeds. Large capacity SSD Drive. Built-in home app support so You don’t need to use an iPad , Apple TV, or homePod mini to run your Apple home ecosystem. And update the OS to give it a more organized and maybe even a graphic user interface to make it easier to see what devices are connected and to manipulate and control how these devices are connected and what access they have on your network.

[@bobbyhexlrod1651]

I must admit, since the death of Apple AirPort Extreme, my user experience has been lacking. Could be a placebo effect, but I miss the seamless interface.

[@WePiphany]

Apple has been hinting at needing more throughput all year long. I am 99% sure they are going to introduce a new wireless standard that is required for Lossless audio and a fast and premium wireless headset experience. I won't be surprised if they also introduce a new piece of hardware that handles WiFi and whatever the new standard is. Would be no brainer to introducce a new Home Pod that serves as an extender and smart spearker.

[@mchisolm0]

I would love…LOVE…to see a new wifi router from Apple. I tried to upgrade my Airport Pro only to have way more trouble than I felt it was worth…so back to the Apple router I went until I can find a comparable replacement… :/

[@Sethy22]

This would be a Dream. I’ve been thinking about it for so long. Apple should definitely make it happen.

[@pun1199]

I still using apple Airport Extreme more that 6 years and it still solid, no issue, easy to use. I also pair it with small airport as signal extend for my home. Hope that apple bring this product line back since they now plan to start using there own network module.

[@frankbradford9616]

This guy is speaking my mind, my heart. He is SOOOOO right. Please listen to him Apple

[@calebbrown4101]

Every time I struggle with my internet connection I curse at my router. And I’m pretty sure most people do. We don’t blame our personal devices ie iPhone or Apple TV regardless if it’s actually a problem with the device or our ISP and not the router. We have been conditioned to do this. Apple’s ethos is all about the experience and if we do not get what we expect with our personal device then we will just blame the router but if that router is an Apple router then the Apple experience will be tarnished. I don’t think Apple can afford to release a router as this will likely not live up to the experience we expect (not for any fault of their own) and is also likely the reason they pulled the airport line. Maybe If Apple could control the ISP as well then the experience could be considered adequate but I believe Apple likes that there is something other than them that they can move the spotlight off themselves and make us blame others first.

[@PUNKSTER690]

Apple would probably come up with some proprietary wifi standard that extended the range and speed of new Apple devices but not legacy clients

[@shadow.banned]

Probably do something like block firewall/advanced options too. They don't seem to know their customers half of the time.

[@retrun813]

Hi! Currently I’m having this setup: main router - 5ghz only output, and range extender - 5ghz input and 2ghz only output (for smart home devices only +iPhone). I consider buying AirPort Time Capsule as the main router, and AirPort Extreme as the extender. The question is if I will be able to use this exact input/output with AirPort setup? Many thanks!

[@commanderjoy4927]

Exactly! I still have my AE, it still works great with Time Machine. This was a GREAT piece of hardware that Apple needs to ramp up to today's needs and put back in their lineup. Hope Apple is listening.

[@iineok]

You are a genius, Rene! I am looking for a new router & NAS for my home and what you are proposing would solve 90 % of my needs 🎉🎉🎉

[@x12flare73]

I’d drop my Eero 6 Pro’s off in a heartbeat if Apple dropped a new Wi-Fi solution

[@ColonelLucario]

5:00 iCloud private relay in the network could be awesome I already want it in the OS rather than only on Safari

[@MoonshineOctopus]

Tried watching using my nebula sub but it was slow and low quality so came back to here. Why doesn’t nebula have a video resolution setting?

[@shadow.banned]

AirPort Terminal, Tim. 2-3x wifi 6E mesh nodes with 1 NAS/Time Capsule in the parent node that all allow wired backhauls. And an advanced firewall/options that kills the Pihole.

[@raysrcsandtech]

Talking of AirPort Im still using AirPort Extreme 5th gen as my router, in 2022 what should the IPv6 setting be, mine has always been Link-local only, should I not be using that nowadays and use Automatic ?

[@KarlLetcher]

I loved my Airport Time Capsule. It was a sad day when it gave up the ghost. I’ve been paying for iCloud ever since, which I’m sure Apple loves.