MIKOYAN MIG 29M OVT Vectored Thrust Demo - Farnborough (airshowvision)

Quite simply one of the most legendary fast jet demos of recent years, showing the possibilities available to a pilot when he has 360 degrees of Vectored Thrust to play with.
This aircraft is one of the Mig29M prototypes, retro fitted with 360 degree thrust vectoring nozzles, enabling it to turn within its' own axis and produce the amazing manouvers you see here, including the backflip, the super cobra, and the flat spin. All under total control.
Also, during the final part of the display, we see the pilot stop playing around and open the jet up and really let rip with a very high speed rolling loop, for me possibly the highlight of the display.
This aircraft is still in this colour scheme, but sadly, like most Russian fighters rarely ventures outside Russia, but it came over in 2006 to do Farnborough and the Paris air show. Here is its' moment of magic . . .
Please note the new Airshowvision facebook page is now up and running at: airshowvision

[@GaryDoctor1]

Impressive for a plane that's 35 + years old. Probably one of the best displays I've seen.

[@SBCBears]

WOW! I love flying machines. I don't care who builds them, Airbus, Lockheed, Ilyushin, Boeing, Antonov, Sukhoi, MiG, Martin Marietta... you name it. They are all just soooo cool.

[@MistedMind]

And the Russian way of "simplicity" makes them so relatively "cheap" to build, and so impressive over all! I'm a tech-geek though, and still admire the F22 for its high-tech stuffs xD

[@gigachad1925]

@@MistedMind same

[@paulwesterhof8499]

What a display of vectored maneuverability by the Magnificent Mig 29 ..

[@YuriPRIMErpg]

I just love this machine, fine, elegant, "agile", deadly, damn I'd love to own one

[@pkinnb850]

I was there that year and I blew off 3 meetings so that I could watch this demo. I am an airshow and aerospace junkie and have still never seen anything quite like this amazing display. I never missed another of his shows for the rest of the week!

[@chevaughnrose5963]

Amazing. The Mig-29's are very aerobatic, mon

[@Steve52344]

Great demonstration of a great aircraft. Kudos to this very skilled pilot. WOW!

[@yamahabradley]

Wow!!! What a beautiful display of an incredible aircraft flown by an incredible pilot. World class and the best display seen for many years. Congratulations.

[@GuyFromSC]

Facts

[@Brettannica1]

I used to work at Farnborough Aerospace Complex and the highlight was definitely the Pugachev Cobra manoeuvre done at the FAS back in ’96 with the SU27.

[@philoliver8836]

Old school now. Fascinating then. Cobra maneuver is outdated .

[@jsangeetsagar4971]

Superb piloting.

[@casacalmar]

Pavel Vlasov. Amazing pilot!

[@soyounoat]

That is a stunning display of pilot artistry and machine performance. When these creations are used for peacetime demonstrations to an audience, they reach their pinnacle.

[@dollarhugo37]

I have never seen anything like this before! What kind of sorcery is this?

[@vandercudo]

This is art!

[@Alex462047]

Hard to get a full appreciation of it's full manoeuvrability when one can't see the ground as a reference. Love the plane!

[@jimzamerski]

This demonstration makes a mockery of my aerodynamic expectations. "Yeah, I just went sideways. Deal with it."

[@cloggedpitot1]

Excellent pilot!

[@JulianDanzerHAL9001]

This thing is just WOOOW maneuverable - there were enough situatons in this video, were with most other planes I would have expected the ejection seat to be pulled any moment

[@mherssens]

jees, the first thing you learn as a pilot, is to avoid stall at all costs because it will get you killed on so many levels. Gravity and slow speed makes you become a brick. What do the russians do? They go 'fuck gravity' and ignore any stall warnings and fly that machine like a boss. goddamn

[@nikolaytihonskcoy9090]

hahaha

[@pashapasovski5860]

Miro H hahahaha, yeah man,crazy Russians, crazy like a fox!hahahaha

[@youngpadawan7910]

Holy shit! That's insane!

[@lakefire9985]

MIG 29 = AWESOME

[@ironfist2253]

+lake fire Mig29 0 and 7 to f-15 just saying

[@flamingtablesjr.5412]

Political views mean nothing to me as both us the American people and Russian people don't have a matter when it comes to how each of our governments are ran. They both make decisions based on things that are beyond us hard working citizens. No matter how the media or government try to portray each side i have love and admiration for both us here in the USA as well to for the people of Russia. This is a beautiful and amazing piece of technology that the Russians have developed. i refuse to compare American and Russian Technology because both are innovative and i appreciate both in the advancement of technology. the thrust to weight ratio is outstanding in this Vectored Thrust configuration. Bravo Russia this is a beautiful amazing aircraft and i wish i could see it in person. Love and Respect to all the people of Russia.

[@lewisrussell728]

so true

[@Olegstuff21986]

Thanks, brother. For peace :).

[@GrungiestCar]

Flaming Tables Jr. The most respectful KZbin comment I've ever seen

[@D0Bone]

Best comment in the comment section.

[@_Primerova_]

@@GrungiestCar Поддерживаю)) Всем мира, добра и творческого вдохновения!

[@geraldbeddows9017]

I think only one word can describe this display. " WOW "

[@Amic-gk8lw]

I was there, and this was the noisiest air display I've ever seen! And this was well documented in air magazines after the show, the noise this rocket made was awesome! Superb pilot, superb aircraft, amazing manoeuvrability!

[@knightflightvideo]

This is one of the best MiG-29M OVT videos I've ever seen! I've filmed the OVT also in 2006, at the ILA Berlin Airshow. It was amazing! Thanks for posting this awesome video!

[@ThumbsHunter]

This is just amazing: 2:00

[@schlaznger8049]

I don't care what country your from, this is some of the best porn you will ever see!

[@mickleem]

schlaznger I absolutely agree! Wonderful aircraft I could watch 24/7

[@emma12345678961]

5 min in the air and he was never really at level!

[@ElektroMessTechnik]

C.C.C.POWER Greetings from Greece.

[@theboywhodroveaway7954]

Greatest show i've ever saw!

[@flukyloler9299]

the controlled flat spin is awesome at 4:20

[@TTRVision]

everyone speaks about the plane, but how about this magician pilot? full respect !!!!!!!!!

[@rembrandvandooren8027]

this is the only demo of a plane wich made me have tears.... this is just unbeleavable and AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mega plane MIG29 and extreme good pilot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Wildcat5181]

Well, it has often been articulated by American officials and officers that Russians are backward and stupid.

[@airshowvision]

To be honest I am grateful to see anything Russian at a UK airshow they are so rare.

[@Leon-Hardt]

MiG 29 OVT codename: UFO

[@kingsleyndam]

what a beautiful aircraft and what an insanely talented pilot!

[@charlesonyango2472]

Amazing skills! Kudos to the pilot and the engineers who put this plane together.

[@strobe5000]

Excellent! Thank-you. Don't know how I had missed this one. It's nicely condensed to show what pilot and plane can do.

[@pilot7750]

Mig-29/35 and SU-27/30/35 are the best fighters in the world...

[@searching5844]

What a pilot!!! Even the tires does not show any smoke while landing. No words to express what happened in the sky.

[@tommarrs77]

Pretty amazing maneuverability!

[@CamilleRatel]

LE MIG29 et un super aéronef quelle élégance en vol, des figures parfaites et surtout la position cobra qui est sublime!!!!!! merci a mes amis RUSSES!!!!!

[@MyFabian94]

I'm normally into WWI stuff, but man I want to feel the Power of that thing.

[@pdjurdjevic]

Sta reci. Ovo je naucna fantastika. Svaka cast pilotu i inzenjerima. E da je bilo srece da na nebu 1999 imamo ovakvih 20 30 komada.

[@javacup912]

Very impressive indeed! At times it appears like in a flat spin, but of course, he flew away. Great airplane, and equally great pilot!

[@paulrandig]

It's a pity that the video-cuts often happen when the pilot is about to regain normal flight after a stunt. I would like to see that, too. And the cuts are irritating with their sudden zoom. Apart from that it is a great video and I like the smoke trail with the wake turbulences.

[@indiodelabarda1779]

¡Ups! Pedazo de piloto en un pedazo de máquina! En verdad pareciera que viola las leyes de la física, teniendo en cuenta que ese avión pesa unos... 15.000 kilos... y sin embargo en el aire parece de papel! Para ver y disfrutar aún aquellos que no gustan de los aviones.

[@lakefire9985]

this pilot is the MAN ....I want him to be the captain my next flight ..he handles planes so well

[@juliannortheast2271]

Very great colours I saw this mig 29 at RIAT 2006 fantastic smoke and display

[@MrPLASTERM66]

Just almost 100 years ago, the human being attempted to fly.

[@lukak1774]

First ever manned flight was 1786 but ok

[@Citadin]

@@lukak1774 balloons don't count.

[@lukak1774]

@@Citadin yes they do

[@tigrinjocs]

01:59 O.M.G. :O

[@alanlufc6317]

I was there for this display on both days and i can honestly say it was the best display that i have seen by any plane before or since.

[@airshowvision]

I totally agree - nothing like this comes here these days sadly.

[@casacalmar]

I can't get enough of this video. Hats off to you Mr. Vlasov.

[@wusong7966]

no aircraft in the world can do what Mig29 and Su27/30/35 can do.

[@tophiloliver]

Wrong oh unenlightened one.

[@philoliver8836]

F-25 an F-35 are fully capable of any and all maneuvers show by the Mig-29 and more. Also, they don't have the radar signature that will put the Mig- 29 in great danger.

[@danifar21]

Phil Oliver not as agile as russian su35....better radar signature and electronic equipment....nothing more

[@KS-ps4sh]

Only F-22 Raptor can match with this. F-35 is no capable for this. Mig-29 and F-22 are airr superiorty fighters they are made for this

[@philoliver8836]

Johnny, Of course, small agile fighter plane and larger hauling capacity airplane. . Different missions. Just like Russia is copying. However, no Russian airplane or radar can detect either the F-22 or the F-35. The Russian aircraft have some advantages if they visually see them. if they don't have a visual, they have no chance. Only the American aircraft are gen 5. by the way, As the Russians and Chinese are trying to 5 aircraft, we are now testing gen 6. The Russian military is quite weak with limited budget and not very many modern fighters.

[@edgu71eg]

They should put this guy on Top Gun 2

[@hotlapkyle]

The greatest air show demo period. Amazing

[@deltavee2]

Mr. Vlasov is one talented pilot, Chief Test Pilot or not. Beautiful aircraft and mind-bending manouvers. The backflips at 2:00 and 4:20 make for stunning visuals. Here's to one of the best, doing it right. Airshowvision, thanks for the upload!

[@MiGMiG-do6ho]

Mig-29 /35 is the 2nd best fighter in the world. The current best is Sukhoi-35. Shortly the best will be again Russian T50 Pak-Fa. I am not Russian and my country (Turkey) uses American F-16's by the way. No one can beat Russians in air defence including their fighters and S400 missiles. Sorry guys but fact is the fact....

[@VelmiVelkiZrut]

Spencer P At the same time, those Indian Sukhoi ad MiG jets have multiple times gone up against Pakistan... which uses American designs... and won. Also, he has a point regarding Yuhoslavia. It was the same as over Iraq: When you have AWACS and overwhelming numerical superiority over inferior export craft, victory is assured. You "blew apart" an air force using a coalition of most world powers and almost every regional power - congratulations. you can't apply that to a fight on more or less equal terms.

[@VelmiVelkiZrut]

Spencer P First off, I agree that not all of your jets engaged the MiGs at once. What I am saying is that when you only have twenty jets total, your options are far more limited and you have to agree that with those numbers it's far easier to get bounced or dived on from an unexpected direction, especially with AWACS direction. Secondly, Yuhoslavia had MiG-29 model B jets. The export version. Export versions are universally crappy compared to the real thing (because no one wants to arm a potential rival), with the Russians being pretty serious offenders as far as export reduction being concerned (last generation radar, no ECM or IFF systems in export models, rendering them extremely vulnerable to a high tech opposition with AWACS or late-gen onboard radar that can identify the targets far before their onboard radar has even a glimpse). You cannot possibly state with any degree of seriousness these were advanced aircraft, not compared to the true Russian equivalents. Of those, only six were downed (one to mistaken friendly fire), four were hit on the ground by cruise missile and tactical bomber strikes, and there were two air-to-air kill claims put forward by the MiGs. Both were denied, and I cannot verify their verity, but the claims were made.

[@SRB.4S]

Levent Akturk I agree fully with you and I 'm not Russian, I am a Serb and greetings from Serbia .

[@gino3286]

Spencer P Hi i have a question about AWACS. Are they not vulnerable to best missiles ? They look big and slow. Thanks, gino

[@VelmiVelkiZrut]

gino But they have a huge radar range and will spot incoming interceptors from a distance great enough to then vector fighters onto them or just dive away - during a conventional conflict, interceptors in theory will not pursue a target over its own lines and thus theoretically an air defense network. A missile fired onto a target has a maximum range that is far lower than that of the AWACS onboard radar systems.

[@michaelmixon1099]

Wonderful aircraft! The avionics may not be as good as American but I would never underestimate Russian technology.

[@airshowvision]

+Michael Mixon The SU30 performed VERY impressively against the Typhoons during their visit in 2015, with it's thrust vectoring

[@gunbuckybucketman4578]

+Michael Mixon All you want to say is this is a good fighter but not good as american?

[@michaelmixon1099]

+Ivan Dragon I think this is a great aircraft! Thank you for responding.

[@MajesticSkywhale]

+hawkhack lynx well I mean, everyone knows the russian craft are like 15-20 years behind the west in terms of avionics suite and fly-by-wire systems, but most people also know that they outmaneuver basically all other jets in close quarters. But then again, there will never be a close quarters dogfight again, so

[@gunbuckybucketman4578]

Majestic Skywhale So. It's good in it's way?

[@deltavee2]

Beautifully put.

[@RonBand01]

This is one of the most beautiful fighter aircraft (now multi-role) ever created. The sleek lines remind me of the f-14 tomcat, except that this aircraft is much more agile in the sky. Both were prone to flat spins but the later versions of the Mig-29 with total vectored thrust seemed to solve that problem. Everyone at International airshows looks forward to seeing this wonderful aircraft from the family of Mikoyan Design. Thank you for the video.

[@realomon]

love this plane. fuck aerodynamics....

[@arazismayll2418]

mig-29 👍 f-16 👎

[@EivindOla]

Love that colour scheme! Nice airplane too! amazing flying!

[@andyl6742]

I've got to admit that i have never really been a big fan of the Mig 29, but that demonstration was fantastic. It is incredible the difference that thrust vectoring makes. Exellent camera work to. Thanks for Uploading and keep them coming.

[@res1492]

1:59 insane , your not suppose to be able to do that in a plane

[@sidv4615]

who decides what youre "SuPpOsEd" to do in a plane

[@ada205mi]

@@sidv4615 The laws of physics!

[@humbertomanray1450]

Esos mig son OVNIS!!!

[@seroteis666]

yeah man.

[@waiotahi52]

The winner simply on its looks. This thing is beautiful.

[@mammouthlafouinne3678]

Isn't it the best air demonstration of capabilities... ever ?

[@JamaicanMeCrazy]

If the f16 tried half of those maneuvers it would flame out... the f22 looks cool but... we'll just have to wait and see

[@pavlospavlou1769]

Chris Tate some pilots themselves say they are not pointless. Probably you say this because the VISTA project was cancelled. Well F16 VISTA did some manoeuvres but not sure if it could achieve these. Russian have a 3D VT when Raptor has 2D.

[@Antifaith29]

Pavlos Pavlou There's a reason the F-22 has 2 d. You dont think the US experimented with 3d aswell?

[@pavlospavlou1769]

Do you know the reason or you just throw ironical comments?

[@Antifaith29]

Pavlos Pavlou The slightly better yaw control you get from 3d means absolutely nothing in a combat scenario. If you're yawing your aircraft around post stall like many of the Russian aircraft do in shows then you've bled off all of your airspeed and you're dead. The US experimented with 3dtv with the F-15 STOL/MT and a couple of other aircraft and found little to zero advantage over 2d. The F-22 is a Warfighter. The Su series and Migs are great show planes. Speed is life, not fancy post stall maneuvers.

[@pavlospavlou1769]

I think both Su and F22 have great elements for both long and short distance combats, as well as defense systems. Much is said about abilities, all needed is to just check in combat. Stealth is also questioned, after words that a Raptor was shot by even Syrian ground to air missile. About 2d and 3d VCT, really if no difference at all, then Raptor would not have any in the first place, if useless. Many say about a compromise to use 2d to save costs, but I find it senseless since this plane is not about cost saving at all. What is certain is that if stealth is not a reality, then F35 program would be probably the biggest disaster in the history of US aviation

[@unittest3649]

2:03 супер!

[@NeighborhoodVillain]

Flippin' awesome. Especially the vortices in the smoke...

[@myazleoful]

Fantastic maneuver extraordinary machine

[@Xanadu1807]

Что-то невероятное!

[@Xanadu1807]

+Andreich а я бы добавил суперохуительное

[@misha17422]

To the critics of this plane: show me one thing from the history of these air shows that this plane can't do compared to any other plane.

[@regologelliniromacivis]

It is beyond current technology !

[@kaseymoe]

regolo gellini Apparently not

[@TheCallMeCrazy]

You mean as far as conventional jet fighters go, yeah? It's mostly king of the ring in that category, but there are a lot of aircraft that can do things that this one can't...even in terms of maneuverability. Grab an old biplane, for example, and it'll put on a better show of aerobatics than any jet fighter.

[@regologelliniromacivis]

Of course at 100 miles an hour full power!

[@TheCallMeCrazy]

regolo gellini Precisely. This thing would drop to the ground at the speeds they fly at, and even if it COULD fly that slow, it's too heavy to pull off any of the same maneuvers.

[@Kudu300]

If I could pilot a jet craft as good as that man then I would live for just that and nothing else.

[@tophiloliver]

Pavlos, I forgot to congratulate you on your football win against 5 year old children. I'm impressed. Keep up the good work.

[@user-tq2zi4hv3f]

что тут еще добавить?! Сильно, че там!!!!

[@user-zr5xz3mn2s]

Бл,как точно работает на посадке оперение ..Это как девушку по бедру гладить..где-то мягче,где-то жёстче..Но всегда с чувством..))

[@gaolefufashimamolefi2393]

Its like a miracle flight, i don't what tell you about how controls of this aircraft work because maneuvers are very extreme

[@NeudodePaulaSilveira]

Um avião fantástico pilotado por um excelente piloto. Parabéns.

[@BestPlconEarth50]

Damn that Mig guy hasn't figured out that its a whole lot easier to track a plane visually if it leaves the contrail every where it goes. And everybody arguing stealth this and that, USA has been using stealth technology for at least 50 to 70 years (SR-71). You can bet its been in development since the invention of radar. This is a beautiful and elegant Soviet F/A jet. Soviet jets do it real good.

[@Toxofox]

SR71 was never stealth... it has a nice strong radar signature and a huuuuuuge infra red signature... It was "simply" deployed too high and flying too fast to be intercepted. It could therefore spy with impunity. That is what spurred the Soviet to develop high altitude/high speed interceptors such as the Mig 25 and Mig 31 and then develop AA systems such as the S300.... AA systems such as the S300 family are some of the reasons why the SR71 was retired. High altitude spying now relies on spy satellites.

[@BestPlconEarth50]

Agreed, please let me clarify the SR-71 ushered in a new breed of aircraft because of the amount of exotic materials used to construct it and the data gleaned from its service on how everything from composites, to titanium skin all the way to the other side like enemy radar tracking, missile data, coastal radar net sensitivity etc. Also my main point is that as soon as radar was able to be used to detect vehicles, there has been research done to get around it.

[@SuperKiko112]

Dumbass... this is fume to impress ... its not from the engine

[@yamahabradley]

Yes but lets be clear - It was a SPY plane, not a fighting plane.

[@Toxofox]

John Smith measures and counter measures... It dates back to the dawn of military history. When a new offensive weapon is created, almost immediately, a defensive counter measure is invented. And so on, and so forth...

[@user-xo6bo5yl1s]

UFO

[@jeffmartin8106]

that was a nice display!! ive seen our combat line pilots fly and this guy is just as good!!

[@kurucPista]

Beautiful FLY Beautiful PLANE Beautiful Recording Beautiful Sounds simply: the BEST !! many THANKS !!!

[@LW65PL]

ROSJA!!!!!

[@johnconnor654]

Now do this with F22 ... thats why 3-vector thrust rocks

[@pjm780]

+John Connor FYI - none of those maneuvers require 3D thrust vectoring. There are plenty of videos of the F-22 doing all of these maneuvers. While it's incredibly cool and fun to watch the nozzles move around, all 3D vectoring really results in a more complicated vectoring mechanism.

[@pjm780]

3D thrust vectoring is when the nozzles can move in two dimensions (up-down/left-right). 2D vectoring is when they move in a single dimension (up-down). Yes, it doesn't make much sense when one is actually only moving in two dimensions and the other is only moving in one dimension, but that's how they refer to it. It's a selling point. Granted it's one that can actually do something, but it's something that won't end up being used in the vast majority of situations, because if you put yourself in a situation where you need it, then you've done your job wrong.

[@Frikgeek]

+Anıl Ertürk That's really outdated thinking. It was believed that long-range missiles would make all engagements BVR, that thinking was proven wrong many times over in the Vietnam war and it's why air superiority fighters still exist today. It's also why combat aircraft are equipped with machine guns and pilots trained in dogfighting techniques. Electronic warfare and flares have advanced about as much as missiles and there's never a guarantee that you won't have to engage in a close range dogfight. Might not be the main point, but every small edge can tip over the fight. You're not always going to have the opportunity to shoot BVR missiles at targets 50km away with AWACS guidance.

[@johnconnor654]

aymric If you are at minimal speed (or no speed at all) trying to vertically outmaneuver enemy plane ,3D vectoring gives you still full control over the plane unlike 2D vectoring. And btw future air combat will be propably mostly close range one, because stealth planes are able to detect each other only at close ranges (40 km max)

[@TheShockwaveDragon]

+Anıl Ertürk 1.) 3-D Vectoring has been explained by Aymric already. 2.) Ultra-high maneuverability is necessary simply because it's always a good thing to have that much more of an advantage on your enemy, especially if he does not have the ability to vector thrust himself. For example: The Russian and US governments took part in a friendly competition pitting an SU-27 fighter aircraft against an F-15 in a simulated dog-fight. The SU-27 had rudimentary 2-D thrust vectoring capabilities, and the F-15 did not. As a result, the F-15 was unable to escape the SU-27 pursuing it despite the best efforts of the pilots; when the positions were reversed, the SU-27 was able to not only escape and evade the F-15, but it was able to maneuver itself behind the F-15, theoretically putting itself in the position of being able to shoot the F-15 down. Such a scenario is unlikely to happen in real life, but it demonstrated the potential value of superior maneuverability.

[@3smike]

one of the best displays ive seen... if not the best.

[@stikmunkey]

Both the Mig29 OVT and the Su35 Terminator are works of art - hands down!

[@POZDNIAKOFF]

как рыба в воде

[@saptono]

How about to give this plane to Svetlana Kapanina to fly?

[@pjm780]

+Saptono Istiawan It's more exciting watching her in a Sukhoi or whatever aerobatic plane she's flying these days.

[@SovaCG]

Great video!

[@StayPuft80]

This is to dam impressive. Loved it I want a ride

[@vasyazaitcev3462]

To americans who's plane is the best: just read about demo battle between Indian air force and American and between Russian and American. After make a conclusion. Also look at the price of planes.

[@vasyazaitcev3462]

Spencer P demo battle, it was the real flight but without using the real weapons. The planes must to aim to each other and to keep target for some minutes. All such battles were lost by americans planes. You can find info about these battles in internet. Russian jets are the best, everybody in the world know that. Russia can make good weapons, any ))

[@vasyazaitcev3462]

Spencer P and do not trust to technical info on the paper, just real example, real fight, real battle.

[@vasyazaitcev3462]

Spencer P in real history was not real fight between modern jets, or i am wrong ?

[@HerrSchmitti]

Spencer P Im sorry to tell you as a american: Russian planes are better! That "stealth" american jets have is in most cases just worthless. What lets you americans think that US-Weapons are the best is called Propaganda. Theyre not the best. At least not every weapon as the [government] TV(?) tells you.

[@HerrSchmitti]

Spencer P You, Sir, seem like a trustworthy source. But I still heard about F22's loosing against Eurofighters and so on. I've also heard the F22's werent flying 100% of what theyre capable of. What do you think?

[@twinturbo199]

Russian Air power far superior to European and American fact

[@melkorsring]

thats some great flyin,aways loved the 29

[@JoshTheScouseBasher]

Great stuff!

[@EliteRock]

Get's boring reading about how this kind of maneuverability is "irrelevent" in modern dog-fight and air-superiority scenarios. I guess if that's the case the Lockheed F-104 Starfighter must have been well ahead of it's time - it couldn't turn if its pilot's life depended on it, but nowadays it never would, eh?

[@EliteRock]

It couldn't be that Lockheed-Martin fanboys don't like the taste of sour grapes?

[@H3aleme]

dropping to drastically low speeds performing such maneuvers would indeed prove deadly in a real life encounter, cause as it tries to regain speed it would be a sitting duck... but tbh i don't see how having the option to go to high g's as a bad one. In this aircraft you get a wider range of choices, so it is bound to be helpful in some scenarios even if it is rare. And in a dog fight if someone is on your tail and you do something similar to 1:58 by the time ur leveled up again and regaining speed you would be on the enemy's tail who is still trying to turn around to face you

[@ExarchusDivision]

Message to all NATO fanboys bragging about their "superiority": F-35.

[@buinhat9229]

Haha

[@mkmdexplorationparanormal5610]

Nicely flown

[@ProfCalculon]

Design + Sound = PORN