Aizen's HOLLOWFICATION Experiments, EXPLAINED | Bleach Discussion

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MrTommo2304

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@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 Жыл бұрын
What did you think of Aizen's Hollowfication experiments subplot? Are there any questions left unanswered? Let me know your thoughts!
@dekuavatar8777
@dekuavatar8777 Жыл бұрын
When do you think aizen took over hueco mundo I say right after gin become captain
@Raifyiix
@Raifyiix Жыл бұрын
i was really bored this night until you uploaded, keep up the good stuff man
@jdrodrigues7
@jdrodrigues7 Жыл бұрын
Who were the souls in the blobs and who was the specific Shinigami that became “White?” How can so many souls be stored in blobs with out the Science department noticing discrepancies when counting the soul numbers?
@CaptainKotetsu
@CaptainKotetsu Жыл бұрын
@@dekuavatar8777 I also wondered when this took place. It must’ve been a while ago because you’d think Aizen was god to the arrancars. Hell, even after Aizen betrayed Halibel and cut her down, she still refers to him as “lord Aizen” in the cfyow novels.
@s.4155
@s.4155 Жыл бұрын
I've always felt the similarity between a hougyoku in Bleach to that of the Philosopher's stone in FMA. There's a unifying idea of transcending natural laws by harnessing the power of shinigami and hollow souls in Bleach and human souls in FMA. Although the Bkeach version appears to be significantly more potent than the FMA one. What do you think?
@CaptainKotetsu
@CaptainKotetsu Жыл бұрын
Ah, hollow experiments; the only scientific field where you WANT the resulting data to have holes.
@Georg3e
@Georg3e Жыл бұрын
The only 👀
@c-handle2676
@c-handle2676 Жыл бұрын
That joke has so many layers 😂
@griszrox
@griszrox Жыл бұрын
What about cheese science?🤨
@jamespearsoniii914
@jamespearsoniii914 Жыл бұрын
Studies on black holes begs to differ
@CaptainKotetsu
@CaptainKotetsu Жыл бұрын
@@griszrox Now i’m imagining Aizen slicing Swiss cheese to achieve the perfect holes. Before cheese is cut, it technically doesn’t have holes; only craters and air pockets. “Hollow Cheese”
@InutehUnicorn
@InutehUnicorn Жыл бұрын
I alway had this crazy idea that the Hollowfication was some sort of variation or power of Aizen's Bankai. I thought of it as a parallel of his Shikai; where when activating that one Aizen can trick the senses, when activating the Bankai he can trick the genetics/soul itself. Thus I thought that perhaps that was why he couldn't or wouldn't use it as often, since his entire journey was basically learning the nature of the soul. How do you fake or make something artificial without knowing what it is supposed to be to begin with?
@RandomGirlDiana
@RandomGirlDiana Жыл бұрын
thats a good take
@c-handle2676
@c-handle2676 Жыл бұрын
Aizen: if Chaotic Curious was an alignment.
@beecees410
@beecees410 Жыл бұрын
10:28 is it though? I havent read the manga so correct me if im wrong, but in the anime, at some point Shinji's left half is basically hollowfied. So i would assume that it is indeed the case the longer they are infected, the more hollowlike they become
@SpliffingBrit
@SpliffingBrit 13 күн бұрын
Wait a sec... In kisuke knows about how the hollowfication process works, about treating and stabilizing people suffering from it, ect, and he created his own hogyoku already there must have been more "visors" before the group we met the series right? If he had developed this vaccine how many soul reapers died from soul suicide?
@manuelacosta9463
@manuelacosta9463 Жыл бұрын
Aizen certainly continued because he wanted to inflict damage and distraction, chip away at Gotei 13's forces via attrition and have their complacency chalk it up to random Hollow attacks a perfect cover. Then he found a scapegoat in Urahara. It's certain Kisuke was involved in such top secret experiments and that's why he was the main suspect brought before Central 46. Aizen played his cards well but ironically his own inner doubts where his ultimate downfall in the end.
@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER
@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER Жыл бұрын
his own inner doubts?
@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716
@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Жыл бұрын
Urahara in the end outwitted aizen, proving urahara is the superior intellect.
@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER
@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER Жыл бұрын
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 but Aizen never denied it tho
@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716
@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Жыл бұрын
@@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER he never acknowledged it either
@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER
@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER Жыл бұрын
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 nope. Rewatch the anime.
@CaptainKotetsu
@CaptainKotetsu Жыл бұрын
Aizen: “I’m the superior intellect. What could you possibly have that makes you a better scientist than me?” Kisuke: “I’m not in jail.”
@yamatonoryuujin4871
@yamatonoryuujin4871 Жыл бұрын
*Jinta and Ururu exist Urahara: "Nothing I'm not a better scientist than you...even though I basically did what you and Mayuri were trying to do for hundreds of years, funnily enough the only thing you managed to imbue life with the use of the hogyoku was a one time use puppet who was retarded."
@Everythingz127
@Everythingz127 Жыл бұрын
Aizen: well, In jail but getting stronger while... sitting... Thank you for dooming my soul society even further.
@TymeTraveling777
@TymeTraveling777 Жыл бұрын
Aizen: laughs maniacally kisuke: shuts the door 🚪 Aizen: .............
@Slifer29
@Slifer29 Жыл бұрын
This is why the both of them are war powers, according to the Wandenreich. Aizen for his immense reiatsu and Kisuke for his incalculable means and tactics. Aizen is without a doubt a very smart individual, but Kisuke is always the one who can think of something on the fly, and always knows how to craft one plan after another, and that is what led to Aizen’s downfall, because once he was further empowered by the Hogyoku he became increasingly arrogant, and believed that there was not anyone who could beat him but Kisuke was able to craft a sealing Kido to seal Aizen although his body needed to be weakened enough in order for it to take hold and that’s where Ichigo came in another war power. It’s almost like when Aizen was beaten Kisuke was like “You’re smart Aizen, but I’m something wiser”.
@dendrien
@dendrien Жыл бұрын
@@Slifer29 im pretty sure Kisuke stated the only reason it was able to defeat Aizen is due to the Hogyoku read his feelings and therefor wanted to be defeated. basically Aizen lost on purpose or subconsciously
@isaacfaith9369
@isaacfaith9369 Жыл бұрын
Hollowfication is so creepy yet cool at the same time. Hollow / Arrancar is the coolest race in Bleach imo. Their designs and abilities are so wicked and edgy, and it is cool to see the Vizards use them as well. I wish they had been more prominent in the TYBW. Since their Reiatsu is poisonous to Quincies and all... Since it is related to this, could you perhaps attempt to chart the timeline of Aizen's Arrancar army? We know they were in the works for at least 20 years. Nnoitra's line of "having the strongest Hierro among the *long line* of Espadas" always intrigued me deeply, because we don't really get to see it. We get a glimpse in his & Nelliel's flashback.
@holmesholmes.8784
@holmesholmes.8784 Жыл бұрын
well, funny you said something about hollowfication during quincy war
@rafflesiadeathcscent3507
@rafflesiadeathcscent3507 Жыл бұрын
The espada arc was disappointing because the espadas werent really utilized well, no captain even died by their hands it was so underwhelming after being hyped to be stronger than captains.
@yazid6024
@yazid6024 Жыл бұрын
​@rafflesiadeathcscent3507 ur right i think tite kubo didn't want to kill any of the captain back then
@iwx4021
@iwx4021 11 ай бұрын
@@yazid6024you’re both right. he definitely (rightly) got more bold in tybw
@crosis2
@crosis2 Жыл бұрын
I think Aizen did his experiments later for 2 reasons. First he needed to confirm how the Hogyoku actually works or what exactly triggers it's power and second he still had some need to create an army to fight Souls Society (or at least something against Yamamoto). Also he had nothing to fear about being detected as his Zanpaktou would make him almost invisible in that regard. Urahara could not find anything leading to Aizen, only the time he confronted him 100years ago (but that's nothing to do with having any proof against Aizen.)
@dendrien
@dendrien Жыл бұрын
your idea is deeply flaued and pretty much contradictory at best. for starters th Hogyoku plot not only was poorly written and pritty much a plot device that is pretty much an anomaly within a the story. secondly the need of an army, for what? nothing. first of it woudnt affect Yamamoto at all having one which is kinda obvious. thirdly his Zanpaktou, well the most OP dumbest plot device ever made had effect on everyone that includes Yamamoto. everyone was under its effect which is why Itchigo and the only reason why he was a key figure against Aizen. to be honest the entire story alone is badly written which further contradicts really everything till the end and most of all didnt explain anything other than having a sloppy story
@jasmineolivine
@jasmineolivine Жыл бұрын
IMO Aizen continued his Hollowfication experiments despite having realised that the hogyoku was the answer to his wishes, because he could no longer continue to conscribe lackeys from the ranks of the Gotei 13 without arising too much suspicion. He had found a couple of powerful and loyal allies in Gin and Tousen, but he knew that he would need an army to make his stand against all of Soul Society. It's a shame we don't learn if he was responsible for the occurrence of the Arrancar, outside of those we know he created/modified with the hoagie. We get the early scene of Grand Fisher having his mask stripped back by Aisslinger (Iceringer?) while D-Roy watches. We never find out if this was happening in Las Noches. But my headcanon is that it was, and Aizen had been building this army since White. The only origin we really get of Aizen in HM is him sacking Barragan's court. But he is already in post-shihakusho outfits, so it's not clear how recently it truly occurred.
@SpliffingBrit
@SpliffingBrit 13 күн бұрын
I totally love your theory but the "hoagie" made me literally LOL
@radiantkratos5562
@radiantkratos5562 Жыл бұрын
Love this! Have you ever thought about making a video on what he planned to do when becoming soul king? I always had a theory that he was hoping to change the world for the better. Maybe changing all races (Hollow, shinigami, human, quincy) into a single race to create peace. And the reason he never brings up his ultimate goal as soul king is because it would break the illusion that he’s a power hungry villain.
@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much - and yeah, that sounds like a great idea for a video!
@petrueshhka
@petrueshhka Жыл бұрын
I feel like he was hoping to create a better world indeed, but Aizen is ultimately so selfish and he'd do whatever fit his own vision at the time So it could go very wrong even if his intentions were alright. Even in the Central 46 probably not everyone deserved to die, and I don't think it'd be beyond Aizen to eradicate the nobility in its entirety, our beloved Byakuya and Rukia included (maybe not Yoruichi though) So even though the Soul King was a rather pathetic ruler, I think in Bleach they'd be better off with someone like him rather than a guy who actually wants to play god
@42CZ
@42CZ Жыл бұрын
I would just like to add that the goal you stated is a type of genocide so it's still very villainous.
@radiantkratos5562
@radiantkratos5562 Жыл бұрын
@@petrueshhka True. I wonder if he actually wanted to kill central 46 though, along with the others he killed, or if he just saw it as a necessary evil. “In this world, there’s only one thing that matters, hard facts.” If his ultimate plan was to make the world better, eliminate poverty, war, cancer etc. a few dozen, hundred, or even a thousand people sacrificed is nothing compared to the incalculable amount it would save. I just can’t get his final words to Kisuke out of my head “A victor should speak of how the world should be”. Along with what Ichigo said after beating him “I only felt loneliness coming from his sword.” So not someone who was obsessed with power. Extrapolating from that it seems Aizen didn’t just want to become king and say “Ha I did it!”. And I gotta say, looking at the current world, especially in bleach, I can’t honestly say I disagree that the world should change. But this is becoming pure philosophy at this point. Honestly I should just make an hour long video about it 😂
@petrueshhka
@petrueshhka Жыл бұрын
@@radiantkratos5562 Honestly, I feel like Yhwach fits the bill better for world-saving purposes. First, he's already a god and unlike Aizen he's already proven himself capable of being a god for thousands of years. Second, his motivation isn't as selfish. He isn't as obsessed with power (he simply wants to win and power is necessary for that), and it's explicitly said that he wanted to eliminate the fear of death. This means if Yhwach had won (and managed to make all that come true) we would've gotten a utopia exactly like you described So do you think that Yhwach would've done a better job than Aizen?
@LB-vf2hm
@LB-vf2hm Жыл бұрын
I think it's more that composites of many souls have those properties regardless, it just happened to be Shinigami souls most of those times. My reasoning for thinking so is that Menos also seemingly get their immense power from the fact that they're a fusion of a great many souls. They even follow a similar progression to Zanpakutou, beginning as blank, identical beings with no identity of their own, unlocking greater power only if they happen to contain a soul powerful enough imprint its identity across the rest, and very rarely progressing to a third form at roughly captain class. Gillian is equivalent to Asauchi, Adhuchas is equivalent to Shikai, and Vasto Lorde is equivalent to Bankai. My guess as to what the Hogyoku is is that it is something like an object which has approximated the power of the Soul King, which is why, despite being a wish granting device, the wish it seems most likely to grant (Based on the fact that two different people invented it specifically FOR this wish, it's the only wish we've ever seen it grant, and in the case of Chad and Orehime, it seems like it tries to grant this wish even for people who don't know that that's what it's for -- or indeed, even that it exists), is greater power, an/or transcendence. It pushes people towards a form like that of the Soul King. I think the wish granting powerr of the Hogyoku is related to the unique powers of Zanpakutou. I suspect that it's doing a very similar thing to what a Zanpakutou is doing when it bonds with a host and causes them to manifest a new power they didn't have before based on the nature of their soul, it's just so much further beyond a Zanpakutou that what it can achive by doing so is basically anything. It even bonds to a user who imprints on it.
@Xainfinen
@Xainfinen Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's the most likely explanation, it's just plain and simple but still need quite a bit of discernment. There is 2 types of Spiritual beings in Bleach, Hollow & Shinigami, there isn't many form or paths that any of those beings could take to evolve. That's why the Hôgyoku gave Aizen a transcended Shinigami form, then a Transcended Hollow form to fight Ichigo when the previous one wasn't effective. Lacking the third aspect (Quincy) he couldn't possibly be a three dimensional spiritual being like Ichigo, something he grossly overlook. It's exactly because of how Hollow naturally imprint from their human souls and from one another that Ôetsu devised a way to create Asauchi and Zanpakuto, as tool that fully realize the battle spirits of the Shinigami. Hollow by their very nature and the fact that they come from Human Souls, are effectively the only Spiritual beings who can mold and affect every other Spiritual beings and Spiritually Aware Human.
@TravisAxel
@TravisAxel Жыл бұрын
I think the reason Aizen insisted on hollowfication experiments was because if he was going to become the new soul king, he may have intended to dissolve the realms to its original state prior to the original sin. And likewise dissolving the boundaries between species would ensure that souls would all homogenize into one species once again. This might have been his plan before realizing the hogyokous true power and getting drunk on said power. I believe that was his biggest weakness in FKKT.
@hairball178
@hairball178 Жыл бұрын
You think that maybe Kaname may have been infected during TBTP or become like a patient zero himself, leading into his full Hollowification before his death? He always seemed really stringent concerning the Arrancar & the Vizards, kinda wondered if he may have had a much deeper stake in the Hollowification research by the way he acted. Probably reading too much into it, but he seemed to have such an intense interest in all of this.
@rayvonvelez3129
@rayvonvelez3129 Жыл бұрын
Kaname basically wanted to become more hollow like, since he hated soul reapers so much. So aizen with the hogyoku granted his wish bestowed upon Kaname that power. Kaname definitely got the hollowfication in the arrancar arc. Cuz before he never had that power.
@Walrus907
@Walrus907 Жыл бұрын
Okay, so if Asauchi are basically just Shinigami versions of Menos (think about it, what is a Menos but hundreds upon hundreds of hollow souls) then what would be the Shinigami version of a Vasto Lord? Maybe thats all the Hogyoku is. Maybe Nimaya, Aizen, and Urahaha all came upon the same conclusion. That if you keep forcing souls upon each other, they will eventually evolve. Hollow Spirit: Menos (hundreds of hollow spirits combine by attempting to devour one another) --> Adjuchas (hundreds of Menos combining until one hollow spirit is able to gain dominance) --> Vasto Lord (hundreds of adjuchas devouring each other and combining) Shinigami Soul: Asauchi (amalgamation of hundreds of shinigami souls) --> Individual Zanpacto (Asauchi that eventually gains a dominant personality -from the living shinigami-) --> Hogyoko (hundreds of Individual Zanpacto combined)
@cupidlsu
@cupidlsu Жыл бұрын
The Hollow Masks are themselves themed after the characters. Hiyori has a demon disposition, thus she has an oni mask with an oni horn (which is an appendage). Mashiro (mushi means bug) has her mask as insect-like and her leg armor is more akin to cricket/grasshopper jumping power. She's carefree, like an insect. Kensei (note a kensai is a weapons master in Japanese) has a combat knife for a shikai. Likely the column projections are analogous to a kind of armor to indicate how sturdy/tough he is. Etc.
@WillWilsonthesafetyguy
@WillWilsonthesafetyguy Жыл бұрын
I think you're too stuck on trying to find purely medical and scientific reasons for why certain things are or why they happen. There's a *huge* spiritual aspect to Bleach (and most shounen for that matter) that you're not factoring in. One example that most likely has a more spiritual answer is why soul reapers seem to be affected differently by Tousen's hollowfication. Another is why the Hogyoku can grant a wish; it's literally made up of *many* souls so if you apply standard shounen reasoning to that quandary, with its "the human soul is the most powerful force in the universe!" trope, it seems to me it would make *less* sense if it couldn't do stuff like that. As always, great video and I really appreciate all the work you put in to these explainer vids, thank you!
@Acalamity
@Acalamity Жыл бұрын
Spiritual particles in Bleach behave according to specific rules. Which means studying them is a scientific process.
@CelestQB
@CelestQB Жыл бұрын
Can you please do a “what if Aizen fought the sternritter” video. Mainly the top tier sternritter like Gerard Valkyrie, Lille barro, HaschWalth, Gremmi etc.
@ZafoolTV
@ZafoolTV Жыл бұрын
I agree with this
@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716
@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Жыл бұрын
Gerard valkyrie is far too bs
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 Жыл бұрын
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 The fierce battle of the immortals Damn that’s metal.
@LightSkinJedi1920
@LightSkinJedi1920 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Gin refused hollowfication. Which makes me want to know how strong he actually was especially since we didn’t get to see him fight anyone but Ichigo and even that fight didn’t go anywhere. He was teasing Hitsugaya when they fought. One of my favorite captains and he barely got any fights.
@AminoSpeaks
@AminoSpeaks Жыл бұрын
Didn’t the Vizards need to have an inner fight with their hollows to fully control their power as well?
@dzhonnikihirin4006
@dzhonnikihirin4006 Жыл бұрын
No
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird Жыл бұрын
Just to control the transformation, not the actual Hollows(aka Soul Suicide). Think of when Ichigo first got his own Shinigami powers when training with Urahara, he already had a balanced soul, with Human, Shinigami, Hollow and Quincy, he was already complete/perfect, his soul didn't try to commit Suicide, he just had to awaken his own Shinigami powers, to even out the reiatsu within himself, he didn't need the Hougyoku or the vaccine, bc he's already has the "vaccine" and is somewhat close to a Hougyoku. Hougyoku is made from the Soul Kings nails.
@grantlach1668
@grantlach1668 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel man. Please keep up the amazing work we love and appreciate you
@GoogleAccount-vh7ht
@GoogleAccount-vh7ht Жыл бұрын
Man I love Aizen, such a great villan.
@Eldagusto
@Eldagusto Жыл бұрын
Technically they didn’t become perfect vizards right off the bat, they needed to have their personal trials against their inner hollow like ichigo before mastering their mask.
@ameliagalleon3108
@ameliagalleon3108 Жыл бұрын
Hmm. Younger Version of Genryusai fused with the Hogyoku instead of Aizen would even beyond Butterfly Aizen & Monster Aizen 🤔 Maybe nearly/ or equal to Ichigo's FGT Version If Yamamoto was give a Order to Kisuke Urahara to create a Hogyoku in the TYBW Arc then could see a Fight between Genryusai ( Hollowfied & Hogyoku Version ) vs. Soul King Yhwach 😅🤔
@brandonmiotke
@brandonmiotke Жыл бұрын
The hogyoku is actually a very interesting concept because it seems like an extremely similar concept to a philosopher’s stone. Aizen kind of seems like Father in FMAB in that their arrogance of being a “great being” are what is ultimately their downfall. Just a thought.
@ultimateshadeofwar
@ultimateshadeofwar Жыл бұрын
23:25 Have in mind the dialog later on implies very clearly that Tousen was angry because it choose to hollowfy a Quincy, and White was created to hollowfy who he would coinsider it's perfect target and transfer his soul, which Tousen expected to be a Shinigami, exactly why he coinsiders White a failure, while Aizen was fascinate with the actual result which was a Quincy Human
@ralphcoleiv8095
@ralphcoleiv8095 Жыл бұрын
This analysis is very well done! They always are, but the patience kept here while articulating intricate concepts was exceptionally impressive! Nice, dude!
@KingFaTeX
@KingFaTeX Жыл бұрын
Tosen is wearing a face mask during the turn back the pendulum arc so maybe it is airborne.
@NeufAtora
@NeufAtora 8 ай бұрын
Based on the release dates of their respective chapters, I fully believe the hogyoku is Kubo referencing/paying homage to the philosopher's stone in Fullmetal Alchemist. They're both made with lots of souls, both typically take a circular shape, purple is a shade of red, and what the hogyoku ends up being able to do sounds almost exactly like how the philosopher's stone bypasses the law of equivalent exchange and achieve basically anything they desire
@daymianhogue1634
@daymianhogue1634 Жыл бұрын
Why aizen continued the hollowfication experiments despite learning 100 years ago that the Hogyoku grants wishes and doesn't have anything todo with hollowfication? My best guess... is basically like Ichigo said at the end of Deicide, Aizen wanted competition. Aizen wanted to merge with Hogyoku to become a transcendent being. And take the thrown of soul king. But he also wanted to have other powerful beings that could rival him, and part of his God complex probably made him decide to create them manually rather than using the Hogyoku. Also? Maybe for Tosen. Since Tosen apparently wanted to be a hollow.
@ce11fire
@ce11fire Жыл бұрын
Here’s an interesting question that only kubo could answer. Quincys being the masters of reishi manipulation, could they break down the reishi of a dead captain lvl soul reaper?
@in-craig-ible6160
@in-craig-ible6160 Жыл бұрын
I personally think Visored were the cooler of the two hybrid races, between them and the Arrancars.
@SpliffingBrit
@SpliffingBrit 13 күн бұрын
I agree
@LucciClubStudios
@LucciClubStudios Жыл бұрын
“I’ve been wanting to tackle this topic for a while now” Me too homie I’ve been waiting for you to drop this video for awhile now thank you 🙏🏾
@gammafrost
@gammafrost Жыл бұрын
I’m very curious what would happen if ichigo was exposed to the hogyoku. Would he gain an actual resurrection somehow like Tosen? In can’t fear your own world, that fullbringer who fought urahara asked him why he didn’t make a hogyoku for ichigo
@yamatonoryuujin4871
@yamatonoryuujin4871 Жыл бұрын
Because Ichigo is already one, the true meaning behind the name "Hogyoku" is the jewel that breaks barriers, Ichigo himself who is already similar to the soul king has broken the Barriers just by being born. Kisuke already knew this, and knows there's no point in basically giving him a hogyoku since his potential itself is practically limitless and compared to people like Aizen who lived for hundreds of years or more and Kenpachi who lived near a thousand or more, Ichigo is relatively young & he barely scratched the maximum limits of his powers. What's funny is that both Orihime and Chad might have gotten their abilities when they got really close to Ichigo as that was one of the theories aside from the Hogyoku inside Rukia during her time in the living.
@Itzxkazer
@Itzxkazer Жыл бұрын
@@yamatonoryuujin4871 i’d never thought about ichigo being a hogyoku, cool theory!
@dmannycarter9537
@dmannycarter9537 Жыл бұрын
@@yamatonoryuujin4871Would that mean that if say a human soul got attacked by a Hollow and they started to hollowfying, if Ichigo was near the area of the attack could he stab them with Zangetsu and stabilize the hollowfication as well as give them power
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 Жыл бұрын
He’d turn into a goat because he the goat hah.
@neilthomas9463
@neilthomas9463 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly why your the Goat
@corvin9205
@corvin9205 Жыл бұрын
Question: Does the "nail of the soul king" being taken from Matsumoto make her weaker? If she would have kept it would it have mad her stronger?? I've always wondered this.
@FloTaishou
@FloTaishou Жыл бұрын
Didn't you jump over Tousens Hollowfication? PS Maybe he was infected when he attacked Hiyori.
@Beraka114
@Beraka114 Жыл бұрын
well my answer for why aizen bother to do hollowfication beside what you told is kyouka suigetsu can make people maybe forget or faking hollowfication easly
@0DdOne
@0DdOne Жыл бұрын
I personally enjoy the holes I haven't created
@Travizzizzle
@Travizzizzle Жыл бұрын
ive seen alot of comments stating similar sentiments to what im about to say, but what you never touched on really is the fact that if urahara was under the impression that hogyoku would stabalize the boundaries that is why Aizen made his own... in making his own he was also unaware of its true power, that is why he deemed it a failure, because it didnt due what urahara implied it did... in possessing a hogyoku and continuing his expiriments he was only able to create White because that is what he desired and why that "expiriment" worked, and once whites form was broken and seperated forcibly the shinigami souls did infact commit soul suicide, thus the reaction of suprise when it "fails" the hogyoku allowed it to be created but aizen never wished for an immortal being and the real kicker here.... his dream wasnt any of that.... his dream was to kill the soul king, and thus White targets ichigos mother to then create ichigo with the very unique porperties that we all knew but were revealed in EBTR. Aizens hogyoku literally mainfested ichigo and the events surrounding his unique characteristics, and after it fuses with uraharas it becomes a completly seperate entity Dwarf in a Flask style. No aizen hogyoku to manifest hes dream of creating a transcendent being i.e. Ichigo no ichigo, outstanding depth and understanding of the lore, i just think your didnt ponder this train of thought enough
@sageaizen6837
@sageaizen6837 Жыл бұрын
In an ideal world created by Aizen i think he would have every person human hollow or shinigami to integrate their shadow to live with the opposite force within like ichigo , unlike yuha bach who would eliminate death , aizen i think would create one heaven
@mystic1360
@mystic1360 Жыл бұрын
Lol you actually think that 😭😭, it would be hell to live in his world
@darthsacul3940
@darthsacul3940 Жыл бұрын
It's very simple. For you see, Aizen wanted to hear that sweet Espada soundtrack. Like Nube Negra, and Fiesta De La Guerra.
@Chikararyoku
@Chikararyoku Жыл бұрын
I think, for some of his hollowfication experiments, like the hollows with soul reaper powers and finally white, he used his incomplete Hogyoku if Kisuke could save the visoreds by wishing them to stabilize, than Aizen could wish for his hollows to get certain powers.
@holmesholmes.8784
@holmesholmes.8784 Жыл бұрын
kisuke didnt just wish for them to stablize to save the visord, he used another thing, to create a vaccine
@feliperodriguez832
@feliperodriguez832 Жыл бұрын
I swear I always manifest what I want. I have been wanting a video on hollowfication! Thank you for the amazing content. Its like I am listening to a friend while I work.
@ragnarlothbrok4748
@ragnarlothbrok4748 Жыл бұрын
you using thr hogyoku or sth?
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 Жыл бұрын
I literally just watched the turn back the pendulum mini arc in the anime, and then he puts this out kind of creepy he’s watching me like aizen, lol, also i decided to watch it after fake katkauria, since I think it flows better.
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 Жыл бұрын
@@ragnarlothbrok4748 Or he has the miracle lol.
@prismaticc_abyss
@prismaticc_abyss Жыл бұрын
One thing you could have mentioned it how natural Composites of Hollow souls create Menos Grande type hollows, there seems to be a parallel to the composites of shinigami souls, which can not occur naturally like with hollows, so doing it unnaturally makes interesting results, but, not unlike menos, results that are greater than the sum of their parts
@caseymcdonald9714
@caseymcdonald9714 Жыл бұрын
Aizen accidentally made Ichigo who by pure accident has gained powers that by all means should not be held by any one species aizen essentially accidentally made a new soul King some steps still pending.... I mean even hell deemed Ichigo worthy of it's full power in the 4th movie something that both struck me as really odd and yet very telling because as far as lore goes we don't hear much about hell, even the hell chapters after ttybw where Ichigo is a dad we don't really get an explanation other then hell was backing Ichigo back then but....... Who else can we think of that hell would fully bend a knee to? That's right the soul King someone who both embodies the original reality and the chains that hold together the new reality and let's be honest from pure visuals I would hell Ichigo is on the level of both Vasto Lorde Ichigo and final getsuga Ichigo
@radicalred474
@radicalred474 Жыл бұрын
Have any of you maybe thought that this is just another version of the philosopher’s stone? They literally are using the same ingredients for this hogyoku as they would the philosopher’s stone. Just look it up I’m sure you’ll draw the same conclusion as I when you watch full metal alchemist and now bleach.
@Kubinda12345
@Kubinda12345 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that the infection among the Vizards was spread via air which is why Tosen was wearing a breathing mask and goggles.
@Kubinda12345
@Kubinda12345 Жыл бұрын
@@dorothychambers1455 But the injuries were caused differently; by Tosen's blade, by Kensei's hollofied form etc. And was Hiyori injured at all? And even if it happened through injuries, how would it get to the bodies? My only idea is that there was some pathogen in the air.
@danielmacdonald9287
@danielmacdonald9287 Жыл бұрын
@Kubinda12345 Hiyori was bleeding, so I'm guessing she was injured in some way when she came into contact with Kensei. Maybe there is a pathogen but it only passes into injuries, directly to the blood?
@carloscruzartchannel5345
@carloscruzartchannel5345 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy to think ichigo is aizen’s best experiment.
@gammafrost
@gammafrost Жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder what kazui is going to be like. The guy is literally opening portals to hell as a child and potentially might even have orihime’s powers
@0kamar189
@0kamar189 Жыл бұрын
@@gammafrostand I’ve been wondering technically ichigo isn’t a combination of all the races because of sinners in hell, but maybe something weird happend in his shiba bloodline with the sinners because I know one of the noble clans were messing with it
@gammafrost
@gammafrost Жыл бұрын
@@0kamar189 I don’t think sinners in hell actually qualify as a race but we’ll see. No. 8 espada is still an arrancar even tho he’s gained new powers
@panthergawwwddd5887
@panthergawwwddd5887 Жыл бұрын
The algorithm showed me this channel a couple of months ago and I’ve been binging videos ever since. Thanks so much for putting out all the dope content! Looking forward to you covering the second cour of TYBW!
@christophermire3872
@christophermire3872 Жыл бұрын
I think sometimes Aizen is full of $#!+. You know he likes to eff with people so of course he says he knew what the hogyoku did all along.
@chillleft
@chillleft Жыл бұрын
Could that piece of Matsumoto's soul that Aizen took be the reason she can't go Banki and has been stuck at lieutenant for so long?
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird Жыл бұрын
Hisagi is a lieutenant for as long as Matsumoto. She doesn't have a Bankai bc she's lazy and doesn't train.
@doncinati7644
@doncinati7644 Жыл бұрын
Lmao she’s actually just lazy
@chillleft
@chillleft Жыл бұрын
@@doncinati7644 lol
@chillleft
@chillleft Жыл бұрын
@@MaxIronsThird Haineko seems way more argumentive and unwilling to work with her, almost like she can't 🤔
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird Жыл бұрын
@@chillleft it's her personality, aka Haineko is lazy, just like Rangiku.
@Watcher40K9
@Watcher40K9 Жыл бұрын
I think part of the reason why multiple Shinigami Souls are necessary for these different thing mentioned around the 15 minute mark is that the Shinigami soul is unique compared to it's Hollow, Quincy, a Human counterparts in that it is a singular soul with a large amount of personal spirtual energy usually built up over refining itself through training and/or bloodlines. Hollows are an amalgamation of numerous souls of varying quality, Quincy have a Yhwack soul fragment parasite and only use a small amount of personal energy they use to take command of the environmental spirtual energy, and Humans have a single soul but have very weak personal spirtual energy. Kidou seems to allow a Shinigami to alter the wavelength of their personal spirtual energy to manifest elements different than their usual nature. Hitsugiya's uncontrolled spirtual pressure created frost that harmed the old lady he and Hinamori lived with, which happened before he joined the academy and received his Asauchi. This shows that a Shinigami's spirtual pressure can take elemental form even without a Zanpakutou. That Kidou can allow those with a natural ice affinity to manifest flames shows how versatile a Shinigami soul can be through training. I believe these qualities give a Shinigami soul a singular, powerful, and adaptable 'voice'. Combining many of these 'voices' into a 'choir' may be necessary to produce something powerful enough to warp reality into granting a wish. As for the sentience, we do also see this with Menos Grande. A hollow that accumulate so many souls that the original Hollows personality can be lost under the cacophony of the other souls becomes a standard Gillian, but some Hollows with a soul that has a strong enough ego (original hollow soul or one consumed) can become the core of a new consciousness. This type of unique Gillian consumes other Gillians in the evolutionary process from Adjutas to Vasto Lorde. This example demonstrates how something containing countless souls can build a sentience under the right conditions.
@mattgerardteves419
@mattgerardteves419 Жыл бұрын
Aizen knew the quincy waa gonna come..Anything he has done would have been to mitigate that end...
@gralegambino1433
@gralegambino1433 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!! If Aizen doesn’t recruit the espada …. Then yhwach would have forced them into his army like ebern and ludas and hallibel
@redred1952
@redred1952 Жыл бұрын
I think Aizen uses kyoka suigetsu and it's done off screen for infecting Hirako and co
@Infinite8blue
@Infinite8blue Жыл бұрын
Actually it was tousen that infected them all, when he use his Bankai. I believe he stab each of them to start the hollowfacation
@Raifyiix
@Raifyiix Жыл бұрын
I was so bored this night until i got the upload notifications damn his content is so good
@hikariizuki1693
@hikariizuki1693 Жыл бұрын
Is it not that kisuke finds out why shinji and the others become stabiles after he used the hogyoku and come to the idea of making that vaccine? When hearing about the vaccine, what I think is, kisuke take sample from sinji and try to find out what is the key to stopping the soul suicide. This is because he already, or planning to hide the hogyoku inside rukia. He have to know how to fix it without the hogyoku in case he is facing something similar, and he can't just use hogyoku all the time since it's a dangerous item
@moscowfreak795
@moscowfreak795 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention Tosen's hollowfication
@frederickmeadows8716
@frederickmeadows8716 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown Bleach and Hunter X Hunter be confusing sometimes
@eazybrowniemix
@eazybrowniemix Жыл бұрын
The Hogyoku is literally just the philosopher's stone from FMA.
@ElKabong3345
@ElKabong3345 Жыл бұрын
29:10 You actually answered it yourself in the video. He's testing, but also trying to draw out the Vizards, who are close to Kisuke, with good bait to peak Urahara's interest to show up, just like he did 100 years ago. Doing this would help pinpoint the Hogyoku further.
@Leslie1984Adams
@Leslie1984Adams Жыл бұрын
i always thought of the Hōgyoku as a well of endless power, each soul adding to this pool, and eventually the souls fused in the little glass ball becomes something else, a sentient power that has no physical appearance but can latch onto someone like a parasite. I always assumed Aizen knew this and experimented with the Arrancar and Shinigami to find the best way to try and fuse with this sentient parasite without loosing himself and thus used small "pieces" of it to "infect" Arrancar etc and like the Mastermind he is, watched, took notes and formed a plan. Its worth nting you said yourself that Kisuke said the Hollow and Shinigami souls are mixing and causing the person infected to go wild and seemingly loose all humanity they had, so i feel that also applies to the Hōgyoku as all those souls mixing and mashing together, and whatever is forming inside that mass of souls is what Aizen was after.
@lilithmidnightstar6790
@lilithmidnightstar6790 Жыл бұрын
Just imagine Yamamoto did allow Unohana to join the investigating group and then she got infected and hollowfication. what would she could become..?
@rayvonvelez3129
@rayvonvelez3129 Жыл бұрын
After hearing that aizen was trying to replicate how oetsu creates zanpakuto but with hollowfication. Like kaname zanpakuto could be made into a resurrection, Now we see a little more how shady soul society is
@Charlieandp
@Charlieandp Жыл бұрын
Ye it's fascinating how shinigamis greatest weapons are hollows they bond with and share their own soul with.
@alfiexnakama4678
@alfiexnakama4678 Жыл бұрын
Now i want u to talk about Aizen hollow form 😌
@danielkariuki7216
@danielkariuki7216 Жыл бұрын
Aizen leaving all his problems to kisuke lol
@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716
@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Жыл бұрын
Why did tousen get hollow powers but not gin?
@TymeTraveling777
@TymeTraveling777 Жыл бұрын
The hogyoku is probably the essence of the Soul King
@TheGreatDevlin
@TheGreatDevlin Жыл бұрын
There's still an element missing to tie together the creature known as White for me. But I definitely enjoyed getting that explanation. It did tighten the series' plot effectively.
@MrCavonta
@MrCavonta Жыл бұрын
The hogyoku is essentially bleach's "philosopher's stone".
@ZafoolTV
@ZafoolTV Жыл бұрын
It's so much more than that...
@JuciferN9
@JuciferN9 Жыл бұрын
White’s mask looks a lot like Ichigo’s. Maybe Ichigo’s hollow form is essentially a “descendant” of white?
@J.c410
@J.c410 Жыл бұрын
White infected ichigo's mother when she defended ishin. That's why ichigo has hollow powers
@fortello7219
@fortello7219 Жыл бұрын
If the Hygyokyu is a piece of the Soul King's nail then; is it possible that it's a type of Fullbring? The Soup King has the powers of all types of spiritual beings, including Fullbring. As well Fullbrings act on the intentions of the user and can operate independently. It would be unusual but also fitting of the Soul King to have a power like this. Furthermore it awakens other Fullbringers. As Fullbrings can alter the world in ways unlike other spiritual powers it's well within the power set, and we know they can be strengthened and enhanced. Especially with Soul Reaper powers as we see in their Arc where they steal Ichigo's mixed powers for themselves.
@slothbroth780
@slothbroth780 Жыл бұрын
I recently saw your bleach brave souls beyond bankai reviews and I have seen you rank captains and bankais before. I think it it be cool to speculate who would be strongest with their beyond bankai
@slothbroth780
@slothbroth780 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it would be better as an April fools video, and there will probably be at least 1 more set of beyond bankais by then
@sicilianmammalian
@sicilianmammalian Жыл бұрын
The hogyoku is basically a philosophers stone also white has a name it’s zangetsu
@DayzHacksful
@DayzHacksful Жыл бұрын
14:35 the way you describe the hogyoku here makes it sound suspiciously like a Philosophers Stone from FMA
@babaG819
@babaG819 Жыл бұрын
Isn't him becoming transcendent a vital part of getting to and killing the soul king? I feel like it's the same end goal not two separate ones. Technically he could probably do it without the hogyoku but it would be more difficult aka have more contingencies which is not what he's about, and also he doesn't just want to stand at the top for the sake of it, he wants to shape the world in his image and likely needs the power of the hogyoku to do so, especially if he was trying to replace the soul king and not just get rid of him period.
@teamdoghouse7920
@teamdoghouse7920 Жыл бұрын
Anyone ever suspect that after Kisuke got framed, Mayuri and Aizen were conspiring with one another? Mayuri definitely has no f--ks to give about anything save for his research and scientific advancements.
@derekhogan9685
@derekhogan9685 Жыл бұрын
A video on arrancars would be fun. The hollow ability to become more like a shinigami is a fascinating, but more stable, inverse to hollowfication. Aizen must’ve even found it a better alternative since he chose to modify areancar.
@fathergucci9588
@fathergucci9588 Жыл бұрын
Great video and all but imagine if Gerard Valkyrie used Sklaverei during his fight in the final arc 😭
@gralegambino1433
@gralegambino1433 Жыл бұрын
Brooooooooooo
@thedarkblitz
@thedarkblitz Жыл бұрын
My take on this is that Aizen managed to turn hollowfication into an infectious "disease", he stabbed Kensei then infected Kensei managed to turn the others by injuring them like a zombie would(sometimes even a scratch would suffice).
@nathanielreichert4638
@nathanielreichert4638 Жыл бұрын
Hyogyoku is my buddy
@Jaheemjb
@Jaheemjb Жыл бұрын
brilliant
@jacobgonzales7588
@jacobgonzales7588 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the experimentations were in an attempt to lift others into a state of transcendence with him? Obviously he was always going to be “at the top” since he believed himself superior and the true power of the hogyoku is meant for one. But what if all the effort in the meantime was to bring the rest of soul society into something halfway resembling his level of existence? Basically he tries and fails at “mass producing” transcendence and is left a lonely king of nothing by the end of the arc.
@jheurtin1120
@jheurtin1120 Жыл бұрын
Best animated battle in bleach is Ichigo versus Grimmjow in Hueco Mundo. Just putting that out there.
@samuelmwithu1017
@samuelmwithu1017 Жыл бұрын
Unrelated question, but does anybody know if there is any significant meaning behind the poems after every episode in TYBW Arc 🤔🤔 is it like if you listen to them in a certain order, they reveal some cool hidden gem about the characters or maybe the plot overall?!
@deepbreeze9058
@deepbreeze9058 Жыл бұрын
Seems like hollowfication would have been an important part of Aizen's plan even if he knew what a hogyoku could do. Aizen's evolutions are all inspired by what he's seen. Ichigo's form with long hair and dark eyes at the start, and then something aproximating hollowfication. Guess he needed something to wish for?
@august6281
@august6281 23 күн бұрын
just from listening to Aizen explaining very complex stuff, he got me hypnotized. No way im surving in Bleach Universe.
@N7Spades
@N7Spades Жыл бұрын
I just got an idea with aizen raising his sword and you referencing kill them all. Made me think his bankai could be his illusions/hypnosis being able to physically affect things/reishei. So with his bankai, he could kill all of them at the same time with the downward slash as each version of him that the effected see/sense are actually "real."
@donniecarlson9677
@donniecarlson9677 Жыл бұрын
this whole series would make more sense if urahara was the Big bad guy all along, but he just became to popular and kubo changed his mind
@wanderlustwarrior
@wanderlustwarrior Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention that Tosen's Hollowfication is a much better version than the Visored, with super healing and without the time limit.
@ExiILe00
@ExiILe00 Жыл бұрын
So, if I’m understanding this correctly Aizen isn’t really as brilliant as he thinks he is.
@codywinchester8779
@codywinchester8779 Жыл бұрын
Wait a second,off topic but is that an English 13 Blades copy? Also thank you for this video,you are covering everything I've ever wondered about in the world of Bleach. Definitely the best Bleach YT channel I feel. Keep it up brother
@OriginalDonutposse
@OriginalDonutposse Жыл бұрын
What’s the real difference between Aizen and Mayuri then? Both kill people. Both do unauthorized experiments to make themselves stronger and to satisfy their curiosity. Is it just that Mayuri is at least killing soul reapers “for the good of soul society and the balance between worlds”? Where is the line properly drawn? I think taking part of Rangiku’s soul is wrong on Aizen’s part. But Mayuri taking 100% of the souls of a bunch of unnamed would reapers from out in the districts is arguably just as bad or worse.
@thepodmod96
@thepodmod96 Жыл бұрын
With the basis... *spoiler* That kisukes bankai works on the premise of entirely 'restructuring', it only makes sense that maybe he experimented with restructuring any king of object with anything avaliable in terms of souls. Hollow, most common; soul reaper, human, and quincy. And as a captain and head of the science devision, i dint discount his methods any less than mayuri. Just, more dignified...
@goblin7372
@goblin7372 Жыл бұрын
Sailor moon aka sailor cosmos is THE STRONGEST ANIME CHARACTER OF ALL TIME. Debate me in the comments.
@michaelingerslev4201
@michaelingerslev4201 Жыл бұрын
Aizen and hes "power" breaks evryting, and in the end what he did only proves how dumb he realy is... hes pwoer is "compleat hopnozes" and he has all 13 captians under he controle + evryone ho seen hes sword!!! so way sneak around? when all u hav to do to "win" is walk around and show ur sword to enyone that may apose u..... he could have done all that he wanted this way and no one would ever even konw... my point is this what did he get out of telling them all that hes a "bad guy"....???? nothing of Aizens end game makes eny sens... Aizen could have done all of what he did i wakeomundo, without revealing him self, so way did he? for a man that pland this and stayed in the shadoows for 100 of years, this move make no point other then prove that Aizen couldent have planed this plan.... Aizen is just another bad guy, that was given way to much power, the first haf of hes story we r told how ultimate and over powered he is, and then they spendt the rest of the story ripping hes power and IQ apart, by making stupid/lame moves, removing he power and just overall tering him down all the wile pumping the hero with all kinds of polt hole boost. like timeless traning, new ultimade power, power lvls and ohhh now we are fuck for the HERO is now more powerfull then enything alive or dead... os we pull the big pin and invent this " he used up he power and now its gone" even thou we have been toled that if that happend, (that u spendt all ur power og give et away u die) now to the point- The hogyoku is another thing that was made to fill out a polt, but after that, the power was simply too powerfull and then riped apart, first it was made into a simple wich granting glas ball,--> then the big "twist" and it didten grant eny wich but was smiply a trinket without eny power at all --- then it was forgotten complitly and cast aside to make room for a new power booster/lvl and this is what i hate i sooo many movise and cartoons.... way say some thing/one is/has the ultimade power! only to rip it all apart?? way make something unstopebel or immortal if ur going to kill them of??? like Aizen we are toled after he defeate, that hes locked away inside this ultimade prison that urahara somehow put him in, but later he just tied to a chair!?! then way TF put him in that ultimade prison in the first place... way make him ALL POWERFUL if ur just going to tear it all aprat in order for the hero to win?!?! ohhh yes its all becuse the HERO WAS TO WIN!!!!
@BulbaSmasher
@BulbaSmasher Жыл бұрын
After extreme hindsight.. Aizen only lost because he ran away from unahana... she was under KS and still ran away .. if he kills her... she doesn't snitch.. so yama kills kyuraku and ukitake... ichigo probably gets executed after the byakuya fight.. kenpachi probably kills komamura and toused and probably yama has to take him out. And aizen never gets outed as being alive lol
@BaconMinion
@BaconMinion Жыл бұрын
Why did Aizen keep going with his experiments even though he "knew" what the Hogyoku really did? Out of series, because Kubo wanted Aizen to be the super smart bad guy and didn't think of the fact that it contradicted something earlier in the series. In series, Aizen was just saying that to make himself seem smarter and superior because of his ego.
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