Steven Universe Theory - Pink Diamond's Possible Fate

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@carumsarene
@carumsarene 8 жыл бұрын
I made a theory on the Steven Universe Amino about Yellow Diamond being the one who shattered Pink Diamond. It's been circulating uncredited around KZbin as of recent. Remember that Garnet was an early member or the Crystal Gems. So she would've been around before the halfway point of the war. So then why was Blue Diamond occupying the planet?
@AJUniverse
@AJUniverse 8 жыл бұрын
Because she was needed for the colony? Just because PD was in charge of Earth overall, it doesn't mean that the others weren't involved. We know that they were all on Earth by the end of the war. Garnet confirmed Eyeball Ruby's story. Someone who looked like Rose, whether it was Rose herself, or someone else, was the one who shattered Pink Diamond, and the timeline still doesn't support her death occurring early in the war.
@carumsarene
@carumsarene 8 жыл бұрын
Garnet isn't reliable either, if Blue Diamond's occupation is correct. Any knowledge Ruby and Sapphire would have had of the shattering would only come from Homeworld's gossip. Rose gave them a new meaning, and obviously Garnet wouldn't question someone who gave them a reason to exist. Also Eyeball believed Jasper was purple, is she really that much of a reliable source? It makes sense if Yellow Diamond shattered Pink Diamond, then left the shards for Rose to find. Blue Diamond then being called to investigate the shattering and end the rebellion before war would occur. Hence why Blue Diamond said CAPTURE. To question Rose. Also look at the murals. Yellow Diamond's mural mimics White Diamond's. She sees herself as someone of equal power. Whereas Pink Diamond's mural mimics Blue Diamond's, she looked up to her. With a new Diamond, Yellow Diamond would obviously see a threat to her rank of power. Gems CAN get jealous just like people can.
@AJUniverse
@AJUniverse 8 жыл бұрын
Carum Sarene Literally nothing in this comment is accurate. Except the characters' names, I guess. Blue Diamond was never said to be occupying Earth, she was just on Earth. I'm on Earth, and I'm not occupying it. Garnet is the only character who ISN'T consistently unreliable. Garnet's dialogue made it clear that she heard the story of shattering Pink Diamond from Rose herself. Blue Diamond ordered Rose's capture only because she hadn't killed any Diamonds yet at that point. It is literally impossible for Pink Diamond to have been killed that early in the timeline. Or are you forgetting the Beta Kindergarten? Pink Diamond's and Blue Diamond's murals have virtually nothing in common, aside from art style. Even if Pink Diamond was new, which has never been said, why would coexisting with three Diamonds be any different that coexisting with two? The only reason that a totalitarian regime would have more than one dictator in the first place is if each contributes without overshadowing the others.
@carumsarene
@carumsarene 8 жыл бұрын
Right now I think it's a stalemate. I don't think either of us will get any clarification into our theories until at most season 5. We're still missing key witnesses into what happened. Best case scenario, we get more information from the Diamonds. Remember Garnet HAS been misinformed about situations as well, remember Bismuth? There's also a blurred line that many people miss when it comes to taking blame and admitting guilt. Having Garnet as the only reliable witness, especially after the events of Bismuth, seems like a throwaway that something is off with the story. With Garnet out of the witness pool, that leaves us with zero reliability to what happened and a ton of unanswered speculation.
@ryancarson6962
@ryancarson6962 8 жыл бұрын
A threat to her rank of power. Dude the murals shown us that yellow diamond have way more planets then pink so how would she be a threat to power. They all run a regime together so what could she do just take her gems and planets she can't because they're allies so what pink do to be perceived as a threat to power.
@kesha.m
@kesha.m 8 жыл бұрын
What if... Pink Diamonds shattering was at the END of the war? Now... Please no one come on this comment being mean, but... What if sometime just before or after the second kindergarten was set up pink diamond was captured, but still alive so the gems who came out were fighting to get her back. Maybe in a last ditch effort one of the other diamonds tries to get her back and Rose uses pink diamonds gem as a weapon and it shatters. (I'm thinking of the pyramid mural. I think the big one is in the past while the others are "future prophecies". Could be wrong, but hey theories aren't the gospel truth) With Pink gone the other Diamonds decide the planet isn't worth fighting for and that's when they decide to blast earth. What if the event eye ruby is remembering isn't just ONE event, but two. Maybe she saw Rose poof her AND LATER SHATTER HER, but over time the memories have become entangled for her. Either way Rose DID shatter Pink, but I don't think it was with her sword. Could be wrong. That's the way of a theory.
@pleromaprism7581
@pleromaprism7581 8 жыл бұрын
gems seem to remember pretty vividly
@kesha.m
@kesha.m 8 жыл бұрын
Avighn Ravi Save for these rubies who tend to be a bit forgetful. Also I'd like to point out that the ruby could have fudged some of it because clearly she admires (or has a thing for) Jasper and would have wanted to come off more impressive to her. Also I'm going to point out something isn't it a common thing in cartoons (or relatively common) for people beef up their stories to sound more heroic to people they like or admire. Nothing sounds more heroic then trying to save the persons leader when a rouge is smashing them. Though we know it's not a complete lie because of how garnet and pearl act (Idk about amethysts reaction), but if eye ruby is lying what bit is the truth and what bit is the lies. She says she remembers roses sword. The infamous sword that a lot of gems seemed to know about. The sword that was made to poof gems not shatter them But idk this maybe makes no sense. There's many ways to interpret it until we see it in a flash back or something.
@awolfe7482
@awolfe7482 8 жыл бұрын
This makes a lot of sense, and it would explain why the diamonds used the corruption song, once PD was shattered they had no choice.
@Shane587
@Shane587 8 жыл бұрын
This really makes sense, or it could have been that Rose used her gem as blackmail to shatter her if homeworld didn't leave Earth at around the end of the rebellion.
@kesha.m
@kesha.m 8 жыл бұрын
PsychoPony1 I do think a lot of them avoiding that does have to do with the war and how they projected Rose onto Steven. From their interactions she was painted as practically a goddess (okay exaggerating a bit there, but I can't remember them saying ANYTHING bad about Rose. Which is understandable. But, I think it's lead to poor Steven being... Confused about her) while Greg painted her more as a person who made mistakes. So of course they'd avoid an area where Rose did something that was that bad. I always thought the palanquin was Blue Diamonds that she left when she got off Earth (potentially to get White Diamond? for whatever happened that shattered pink?), but I don't see why it's not possible Blue gave Pink one or something happened involving it. (certainly not the last battle because if that's what the mural represents it looks closer to the warp pads or something with crystals.) Honestly I don't know what to think about the palanquin at this point. And really to be honest the only association with pink that's popping into my mind is a gift like I said above or her going to Blue for help then getting ambushed and poofed in front of her. Which would explain when Blue was so fast to react to getting out of their in The Answer. Though this brings up a lot more questions like who poofed her, how did they surprise both diamonds and potentially the guards and their Pearls since diamonds don't seem to be far from them. I thought maybe it was our Pearl... But... If so Blue probably would have gotten rid of hers so she didn't get any ideas. So many questions I can't even begin to answer. BUT YEAH, I think you're right about the general reason why they'd not take steven there to date.
@piclagiuu
@piclagiuu 6 жыл бұрын
OMG YOU're a genius!!!!! you found out about is TWO YEARS EARLIER: Pearl shapeshifted into rose to '''''''''shatter'''''''' pink diamond!!!!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😍
@supersaiyanmikito
@supersaiyanmikito 8 жыл бұрын
My theory is that Pink Diamond set the whole thing up. Based on what is seen from Peridot as well as Garnet's flashback, gems seem to either fear the diamonds or think of them as gods. Jasper's reaction however seems to imply that Pink wasn't quite the tyrant like the others were and that her followers respect her more. The moon base also implies that Pink only had 1 base of operation, likely being Earth. When her first planet falls into chaos, that's going to leave her gems to deal with the situation eventually going into total genocide for both side. With Rose Quartz being considered possibly the most powerful gem born in her faction, she asked Rose to shatter her gem to end the war. She couldn't just betray homeworld because that would have led the diamonds to brand ALL her gems as possible traitors and have them executed. So she set it up for Rose to shatter her in plain view of a diamond allied gem which would not only make homeworld fear Rose, but cause their side to go into leaderless chaos forcing a retreat. This backstory could lead to major development for Jasper and potentially Bismuth later down the road. Jasper would learn that her diamond made the ultimate sacrifice so that she and other gems would live and that she put her faith in Rose to protect them. Bismuth would learn that not all the diamonds were pure evil and that Rose did actually shatter a diamond like she wanted to originally but it wasn't as much of a "victory" as she thought it would be.
@samcohen6078
@samcohen6078 8 жыл бұрын
Not true this show is very well thought out
@lightninghedgehog5963
@lightninghedgehog5963 8 жыл бұрын
A show can be for children while still being fantastically in depth and well thought out.
@ShankiaMrsRidiculous
@ShankiaMrsRidiculous 6 жыл бұрын
Bravo
@arianafox365
@arianafox365 8 жыл бұрын
Are we all going to just ignore the wall mural where Rose Quartz clearly has a(pink?) diamond and is using it to fight what looks like White Diamond? I know it was s while back but it's finally starting to make sense
@DuskinCBC
@DuskinCBC 6 жыл бұрын
Watching this back... technically pearl did shatter pink diamond 😱
@0n1in3gang5t3r
@0n1in3gang5t3r 8 жыл бұрын
guys i have a really good theory, what if Rose killed pink diamond? like so there can be a theory video on it😁😁
@duskpede5146
@duskpede5146 8 жыл бұрын
i dont get it
@luisrogelio98
@luisrogelio98 8 жыл бұрын
I am not sure dude only 3 characters in the series have confirmed this.... :/ It might to 100% be false (level of sacasm over 9000!!) nah It was Greg who killed pink Diamond ,Not it was mistery girl so she cuold get PINK HAIR!!!! That is it best theory ever ! (level of sacasm over 10000!!)
@AndrewIG.
@AndrewIG. 8 жыл бұрын
Do you even watch the series? It was already stated.
@leamazingegg6445
@leamazingegg6445 8 жыл бұрын
Lol
@AJUniverse
@AJUniverse 8 жыл бұрын
Don't feed the troll, Andrew.
@icywind17
@icywind17 8 жыл бұрын
It wasn't Pearl because Eyeball knew what colour Rose's gem was and gems can't change colour when they shapeshift.
@hugo20114
@hugo20114 8 жыл бұрын
Eyeball was tricked when Amethyst shapeshifted into Jasper
@icywind17
@icywind17 8 жыл бұрын
Hugo Fonseca She was but only after Ametyst said that she got tanned on earth. She knew what Jasper was supposed to look like. And if Eyeball would see Pearl crushing Pink Diamond she would expect her gem to be white.
@Veralsy
@Veralsy 8 жыл бұрын
Amethuyst had her gem and none of Rubis saw it.
@pleromaprism7581
@pleromaprism7581 8 жыл бұрын
+Veralsy it was under her cloths like when she shapeshift into other gems
@icywind17
@icywind17 8 жыл бұрын
But this would be nice explanation why Pearl does never shapeshift
@badmanicpower
@badmanicpower 8 жыл бұрын
I think the temple fusion did it. This would warrant why Garnet and Pearl had big reactions. True amethyst wasn't there, but Garnet, Pearl, and Ross could've fused with another chest gem. Just look at it. A diamond is huge compared to a Ruby, a Pearl would only come up to about the shin, and a quartz soldiers would be about right above the diamonds knee. There's no way that Pearl or Rose shattered Pink Diamond easily with a ton of witnesses. Eyeball also said her GIANT sword. True roses sword that Bismuth made is big, but it's not big enough to do huge damage to the diamonds. Remember amethyst proofed almost immediately when she was harmed (on multiple accounts). When Pearl pooled, it took her about 5 seconds before retreating into her gem. It took Garnet about 10. Bismuth who is a bit bigger than garnet, had a whole conversation before she poofed (note she had Rose's sword jabbed through her body) so Roses sword couldn't have done anything to Pink Diamond before the guards would have been able to stop her. But the temple fusion was probably as big, if not bigger than Pink Diamond. And remember the giant sword at the bottom of the ocean? Yeah that could've done some damage to a diamond. Eyeball could've been in shock, or just not paying attention, and so when pink diamond was shattered, all the guards would've ran from the temple fusion. That girl is huge, and all we can see is her torso up. Eyeball would've ran with the others, and been taken off guard. She could've seen the sword, but in haste not realized who was doing it. She could've been told that Rose was involved than her memory over time says rose did it.
@cerezabay
@cerezabay 8 жыл бұрын
yeah, no.
@Vulgun
@Vulgun 8 жыл бұрын
Highly unlikely, but possible. But a hole in the theory is how easy it was to poof a corrupted Jasper with just a simple piece of metal from Peridot. So it's more than likely a Body Multiplier thing similar to things like Call of Duty, where snipers have parts of the body that can one shot and kill others. The same thing could apply to the weapons to Steven Universe. One hit near the gem or wherever a fatal organ would otherwise be, and poof goes the hologram made by the gem.
@carmenalas7946
@carmenalas7946 8 жыл бұрын
You have a point
@abrahamramirez6487
@abrahamramirez6487 8 жыл бұрын
The temple fusion is rose, Pearl, Amethyst, and Garnet. Amethyst didn't exist until after the war
@Natboy129
@Natboy129 8 жыл бұрын
I like to think the temple Fusion was actually Rose, Pearl, Garnet and Bismuth. Probably isnt but its a nice thought.
@palokyu9891
@palokyu9891 4 ай бұрын
I find it *very* amusing that Pearl technically was the one who “shattered” Pink
@jordan9212
@jordan9212 8 жыл бұрын
I think it was staged , this show is all about being who you want to be right? Well pink diamonds by nature are defective diamonds,yellow and blue diamonds are caused by impurities in the gem, whites are regarded as the purest. For a diamond to be pink the carbon it is made up of has to be "wrong". This also may account for gem placement white diamonds gem in her head at the top yellow and blue's in their chest because they are rather equal but pinks in her navel because she is the lowest this also applies to the insignia and why she has one planet. From what we've seen so far and based off of other theories gem placement may mean something and gems that have navel placement are kind and caring.(Rose&Steven) Isn't possible for once a diamond took pity on their subjects or despised their role in home world and inspired a rebellion who better to trust than your right hand man, your personal bodyguard, Rose. Strong and Powerful but elegant, strategic and analytical. Who knows where PD may be hidden away, maybe she got corrupted and turned into something majestic such as a lion but who knows we're all just crazy theorists
@JadeySharde
@JadeySharde 8 жыл бұрын
I love this theory!
@VampireLuna951210
@VampireLuna951210 8 жыл бұрын
I like your theory,it's similar to mine so going off your theory what if Pink Diamond HERSELF caused the rebellion?If she is so kind and caring she would take pity on the Earth that she know was destroying with the Kindergartens.And of course Rose agrees with her so they worked together. However,half way through the war things aren't going so well and maybe PD blamed herself for the loss of so many of her gems and would have asked Rose to shatter her and take over in an attempt to repent for her sins,which are the loss of her gems. The reason why Eyeball and Jasper not thinking this is possibly because they were created with the pre-determined mindset that their diamonds are perfect and without fault and if anything like this happens it has to be someone else's fault. This would also explain why the PD gem is missing from the Diamond Authority insignia.It's my theory that if PD was a loyal Homeworld gem even after her death her gem wouldn't be removed from the insignia as a sign of respect.If it's gone then it means to me a "dishonorable discharge".
@SimmDevi
@SimmDevi 8 жыл бұрын
I do agree that Pink Diamond was different from the others. You can tell that simply by looking at their respective images. The other three diamonds look reserved and self-contained. However, Pink Diamond's body language is more open, approachable, and aspiring. I think Rose did shatter PD, but I also think PD may have participated in some way. Even if it was only to intentionally leave herself vulnerable to the attack.
@metallicmadness6322
@metallicmadness6322 7 жыл бұрын
That's a really bad theory because it means that the show lied to us. Blatantly saying one thing and then contradicting it and saying that it was a plot twist is just bad writing.
@fabianshedenhelm2986
@fabianshedenhelm2986 Ай бұрын
Good job 👏🏻 you got it.
@KRiderMan1248
@KRiderMan1248 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah but Rose's sword is made to cut the body but not break the gem. And ruby remembers the sword. Thats what doesnt add up to me.
@Nytesplat
@Nytesplat 8 жыл бұрын
^^^^ Only a diamond can scratch a diamond True fact
@KRiderMan1248
@KRiderMan1248 8 жыл бұрын
***** the bit about her sword was stated by Bismuth. And eyeball ruby remembers that sword. It has less to do with gem properties and more with the time line. Do i belive that Rose holds many secrets? Yeah and i dont think its too much of a strech for her to kill PD. But then again she is very anti gem killing. That is why she has that sword and for the ruby to remember that sword, means that she must have had it after the rebellion had started. And that ruby does say that she remembers her sword. So thats really interesting considering that this gem is really dim whittied.
@antitheist3206
@antitheist3206 8 жыл бұрын
First: Diamonds can easily be scratched, cut, shaped, and indeed SHATTERED by non-diamond material. How do you think we make diamonds into all the fine jewelry? If we have the power to damage our diamonds, then the gems of Era 1 with the must greater tech and power could probably do the same to their Diamonds. Second: Rubies aren't stupid; they're easily distracted. I bet you couldn't chart a course from earth to the moon and back; how dumb would that make you, to be dumber than a Ruby? Third: Rose has shown before that she has a more than checkered past, and her assault during "The Answer" show that she is strategic enough to combat a Diamond (her going straight after Sapphire that is, her being a huge asset to Blue Diamond). Fourth and Finally: There are only a few gems one could say are an equal to Rose Quartz in terms of power, but I doubt they could truly rival her at her peek. Remember when Steven's shield blocked a laser from Peri's ship? it completely absorbed the attack and didn't so much as chip! No gem weapon we've seen has displayed anywhere near that kind of power. Defensive though it may be, hardness also plays a key role in attacks; that's why a steel sword will always outclass one made of bronze or iron. So Rose isn't just *a* Crystal Gem capable of fighting a Diamond, but probably the only one who could win.
@KRiderMan1248
@KRiderMan1248 8 жыл бұрын
sagely Demonologist True but then again technology makes things easier for people to do things they arent smart enough to do on their own. The fact that they got fooled 4 times proves that they arent that bright. Specially if they cant tell the difference between a big purple jasper when Jasper is very well known to them. Who is Orange. And the gems in the show have proven to not stick directly to their real life counterparts. Its not a 1-1 type of thing. And it does show that she is strategic but we dont know anything about the Diamonds. We dont know the extent of their powers. So there isnt much of a comparison there if at all. And the gem weapons/abilities seem to be a reflection of their personalities/emotions. That is why Eyeball has a knife and Garnet's ruby half has gauntlets. And if that is true about their weapons, then you can only imagine what a diamond would have as a weapon.
@antitheist3206
@antitheist3206 8 жыл бұрын
Gumba Chris The comment about breaking a real diamond was for the post about only diamonds being able to scratch diamonds, which is false. As far as fooling someone, distraction is key not intelligence; besides that, the fact that they didn't get suspicious of the purple Jasper is probably because gems don't just come in one color. Our Pearl is at least 4 distinct colors and Peridot is at least 2, so we know gems not only come in color variants but can generate forms of different colors for the same gemstone. And for weapons, I pointed out the strength of Steven's shield, which we know was also Rose's shield. It has done more than any weapon in the series, even outclassing Garnet's gauntlets (which have shown time and again to be ridiculously powerful). Despite all the things we don't know, it's what we DO know that most people don't understand when these sorts of ideas spring up. And the stigma many characters get from fans always irritate me when they have no proper basis; the Ruby squad can be easily distracted, and more than a little starstruck (which could easily have played a role in them getting tricked by Amethyst), but they aren't stupid. Our Ruby is as cookie cutter as the rest and doesn't seem nearly as dumb to people. Why? She's been around someone who can get her to focus, so she isn't as easily distracted (though Ruby is just as impulsive and emotional, just to make that clear).
@sprocket0077
@sprocket0077 8 жыл бұрын
I just don't see why the crew would set the rubies up as being gullible and willing to believe anything and then expect us to believe that eyeball is telling a reliable account of Rose shattering Pink Diamond
@jamesdor9907
@jamesdor9907 8 жыл бұрын
Garnet, and Jasper are Reliable as well.
@Jaforey
@Jaforey 8 жыл бұрын
Half of me thinks that pink diamond is actually a good gem and she told rose to shatter her cuz the earth is pink diamond's planet and she wants to save it idk ?! what do you think ?! Can this be possible ?!
@neftaliherrera3160
@neftaliherrera3160 8 жыл бұрын
I still hold onto this general theory, Rose had A LOT of secrets and still does, maybe she worked something out with Rose or tried to perhaps PD was the one who asked for an audience with Rose maybe PD was asking Rose to end this because she no longer wanted bloodshed and maybe made a deal with her to take her life to end it. As we've seen, gems with their gemstones on their navel have characteristics of seeing beauty, I don't wanna say its confirmed but the evidence is pretty darn clear. I wanna say a lot of things happened when Rose and PD were alone in that room, maybe a fight maybe a truce maybe they actually couldn't come to an agreement and they went at it. All I know is if they don't tell us by the end of the series (or show us home world) I will die xD
@m.ivyluna4632
@m.ivyluna4632 8 жыл бұрын
seems like having a diamond protecting it would actually be better for the world. unless pink diamond was wanting all the diamonds killed and they were finding something that could kill a diamond. or maybe if pink diamond was corrupted and maybe diamonds actually CANT be poofed so pink diamond had said if she ever became corrupted to just destroy her.
@Jaforey
@Jaforey 8 жыл бұрын
Chas Russell Sorry idk to make the other diamonds afraid of the crystal gems so they'll not try to make more gems on earth and suck its good ?! also I don't think PD is shattered cuz if so where're her shards there's something fishy about it
@jamesdor9907
@jamesdor9907 8 жыл бұрын
her Shards are in the Cluster Dumb Dumb
@Jaforey
@Jaforey 8 жыл бұрын
James Dor whaaaa ?! She's a DIAMOND !!! her shards is more important than the cluster and also what you're saying isn't confirmed also sorry if I annoyed you and Thanks for calling me dumb 😕
@Moonsong227
@Moonsong227 Ай бұрын
This comment section is fun in retrospect
@rangergxi
@rangergxi 8 жыл бұрын
I always saw the shattering of Pink Diamond as the climax of the war, the event that caused the route of the gem occupation force and the dropping of the contamination. Rose did something unimaginable that would destabilize the gem empire and that lead to the diamonds using their "nukes". From what I remember it was pretty clear that the rebels (despite fusion+good weapons) were losing and needed something to end the war quickly.
@AJUniverse
@AJUniverse 8 жыл бұрын
Homeworld remained on Earth long enough after deciding to abandon it to perform all of the Cluster Experiments.
@allenhooper879
@allenhooper879 8 жыл бұрын
didnt one of the crewniverse people say that diamonds cant poof well that was not his exact words but thats what he alluded to
@junkenoshima833
@junkenoshima833 8 жыл бұрын
I believe his words were a diamond proofing hahhahhahhahaha u know what I mean so I personally think their just really strong and haven't looked yet.
@sand4brainz506
@sand4brainz506 8 жыл бұрын
I think when they said that they were speaking in a home world gems point of view and that they can very much be poofed but they THINK that its impossible for a random gem to do
@iamchristiancraig
@iamchristiancraig 8 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is that people still want Rose to be so in this "holy heroine" light and cannot accept that no one is perfect and not everything has a black or white solution.
@shellysunfish
@shellysunfish 8 жыл бұрын
I think a different sword was used. The"temple fusion" has a sword (the hand is broken off of the statue). I think the gems together as the "temple fusion" that took down Pink Diamond.
@chaerie.faerie
@chaerie.faerie 8 жыл бұрын
I agree with this 100%!! Also, (like AJ said), Eyeball has only seen Rose once, and that was at the event of PD. Also, Rose's sword can only break the body, never the gem", which is stated by Bismuth, the one who created it! And the size? The Temple Gem is massive, she's probably the same or even bigger size than the Diamonds. And the "sword" that Rose used? That wouldn't really do any harm, but a sword made up of Garnet's gauntlets, Pearl's spear, Amethyst's whip, AND Rose's sword? ;)
@jamesdor9907
@jamesdor9907 8 жыл бұрын
and the one sword we Know of it not huge by any means for a quartz soldier
@3_raccoons_in_a_business_suit
@3_raccoons_in_a_business_suit 8 жыл бұрын
I always thought Pink Diamond would have been shattered at the End of the war, ending the war out of Fear of the crystal gems and setting off the corruption device.
@unumatochild
@unumatochild 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing out the timeline inconsistencies. I've mentioned them on several other theory videos, so it's good to see someone touching on them.
@eruditewho5057
@eruditewho5057 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like at the diamond's height, the impact their gem would have on the ground from the height it was at would shatter it.
@roenais
@roenais 8 жыл бұрын
i think the main reason i question rose shattering PD, is HOW would she do it? her only natural weapon is a shield, shes seen fighting with her bare hands at blue diamonds court (which i doubt could shatter a gem) and her sword has been stated by bismuth to only destroy the physical form.
@Estarile
@Estarile 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe the shattering was accidental? We know Rose didn't want to shatter other gems. Maybe she was trying to bubble PD, and something else shattered the gem.
@KingOpenReview
@KingOpenReview 8 жыл бұрын
Rose could pretty easily break Pink Diamond's gem just by punching it with her super strength.
@tacos830
@tacos830 8 жыл бұрын
Everyone forgets about Bismuths weapon all of a sudden? Maybe Rose used it once, for a purpose...
@megabyte1302
@megabyte1302 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you "poof" a diamond, their gem shatters automatically?
@roenais
@roenais 8 жыл бұрын
thatd be very bad strategically for a supposedly perfect leader. imagine if every time a wolf was knocked out it died
@rainquarm
@rainquarm 8 жыл бұрын
honestly that theory just comes across like a desperate grasping at straws to deny the idea of rose not being perfect
@JadeySharde
@JadeySharde 8 жыл бұрын
Lions mane reminds me of pink diamonds hair and I can't seem to get past it. I don't know what to think. If she's shattered, if she's lion, if she's a shard within lion, if she's in the chest inside lion. I hope they address what exactly happened to her soon. I also feel if she's indeed gone pearl did it because rose didn't like the gem shattering weapon Bismuth made.. So much infoooo ugh I love this show!!
@Tazzykiki
@Tazzykiki 8 жыл бұрын
Do you think it's possible that Rose poofed PD, but the witnesses saw it as a shattering? There have been photos of a pink diamond like gem within a bubble in the temple, but I doubt it. Especially since the gem reactions were so strong, maybe Rose kept it secret? (the supposed poofing)
@whomilloo
@whomilloo 8 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure GEMS would know the difference between shattering and poofing. Honestly completely different things. So no, not possible. And we've seen the same thing in "Serious Steven" where they found a gemstone resembling a Diamond in the Pyramid Temple; when it's pretty hinted that White Diamond is back on Homeworld. Gemstones are allowed to be similar ya know.
@hansgregoryumbac9879
@hansgregoryumbac9879 8 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a diamond
@Tazzykiki
@Tazzykiki 8 жыл бұрын
MJ Lavoto Makes sense, just a thought though. I know gemstones are allowed to be similar, I'm not stupid.
@shinymilotic778
@shinymilotic778 8 жыл бұрын
remember that time pearl got stabbed by hologram pearl? well if you look closely she got stabbed in the stomach like where pink diamonds gem is. Is this why pearl took so long to reform? Did she feel guilt because that's how she killed pink diamond with a surprise back stab? Maybe she only meant to poof her and had no idea what she did?
@minaxa
@minaxa 8 жыл бұрын
Eyeball did say something along the lines of "started a rebellion AND THEN took it too far".
@KinTheFennix
@KinTheFennix 8 жыл бұрын
Eyeball comments on the color of Stevens Shield, implying she knew which color it was. And if it where Pearl who had shapeshifted the shield surely wouldn't have been used and if it was, it'd be white/blue in color
@mdudegamer
@mdudegamer 8 жыл бұрын
I love that sequence of stomping on Pink Diamond's gem.
@cartonofegg
@cartonofegg 8 жыл бұрын
The thing is, pink diamond may have not been shattered. There is very little evidence supporting it, but in catch and release, there is a shot of a bubbled pink diamond. This could mean one of three things. 1. The gems lied to Steven. 2. They bubbled all of pink diamond's shards and they reformed. 3. There are multiple diamonds of the same color. Do you agree?
@ggarnet6794
@ggarnet6794 8 жыл бұрын
everyone thinks that's pink diamond but it's obviously the gem from horror club with the pink tint from Stevens bubble
@jamesdor9907
@jamesdor9907 8 жыл бұрын
the crewniverse conformed Diamonds cant be shattered
@dousalproductions6152
@dousalproductions6152 8 жыл бұрын
+James Dor *poofed and they didnt confirm it they alluded towards it
@Champsr0ck2247
@Champsr0ck2247 8 жыл бұрын
1. Not buying it. Both Garnet and Pearl are bothered by Steven's reaction. Even when they save him he straight up asks if that was true, to which Garnet pretty much confirms it by saying that sometimes Rose had to do things she wouldn't approve to save Earth. 2. I wouldn't say so, because bubbling essentially puts them in a stasis. There wouldn't be any danger of shattering if you could just bubble them and wait for them to reform. 3. The show makes it a point that Diamonds are 1 of a kind. There are no multiple Diamonds running around, there is just 4 of them. To the Gems, the rarer the Gem the more valuable you are. You see this in The Answer when Ruby straight up tells Saffy that there are literwlly hundreds of her.
@thedoodlefox5640
@thedoodlefox5640 7 жыл бұрын
Another thing that might contradict the Pearl shattered PD theory is that, it would be nearly impossible for a smaller gem like Pearl to shapeshift into a gem as big as Rose. We see how much strain it puts on Amethyst, someone who is extremely good at shapeshifting and does it very often, just to shift into Jasper for around an hour or so. We can assume by what we see in the show that Pearl never or almost never shifts, so she would be much less used to holding that larger shape. I suppose an argument could be that Amethyst was only being strained by how long she was disguised as Jasper, but then again, remember the circumstances of shifting practice, and the fact that she would probably need to be around PD for a bit for her to be so surprised at being attacked. Just a few thoughts. I greatly enjoy your videos, and how they get me to think so in depth about this show. Keep doing what you're doing! :)
@jf9144
@jf9144 8 жыл бұрын
it's already obvious pink diamond was alive during the war because peri stated jasper was created for the war and eyeball asked where was jasper when pink diamond was shattered.
@cedars8571
@cedars8571 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing this up, maybe we can move forward .
@dragoniraflameblade
@dragoniraflameblade 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, man. I like that you bring logic and sanity to the fandom. Or more grounded theories.
@abipazzly8657
@abipazzly8657 8 жыл бұрын
rewatching this video I came ready to fly agree with you again but then I remembered what amazeing foreshadowed the crewniverse is. I realized that Amithyst shape shifting into Jasper is for shadowing that Perl shape shifted into Rose. it would also explain why Perl never shape shifts like the rest of the gems, it might remind her of what she did.
@ZackMorrisDoesThings
@ZackMorrisDoesThings 8 жыл бұрын
It was more or less confirmed by Ian Jones-Quartey that a diamond can't be poofed, and Rose's sword is designed to only damage the body while leaving the gem unharmed, as put by Bismuth. Eyeball also says that she remembers the sword, but Rose's shield was enough of a trigger for Jaspar, meaning it's more likely that Eyeball has misinformation, and that Pink Diamond is hidden away in a bubble somewhere similar to how Bismuth was hidden away.
@kaiyam1
@kaiyam1 8 жыл бұрын
The reason I'd feel uncomfortable about it being Pearl is Steven's line in Bubbled, 'Thanks for telling me.' He's come so far, and his response to learning about this was so mature, showing that he IS ready to know, and the gems trust him. For them to maintain that kind of lie kind of ruins that.
@ricardogimenez7489
@ricardogimenez7489 8 жыл бұрын
Well, I think it can be that rose really shattered pink diamond, but let's remember some lines from the episode Bismuth. Bismuth stated when talking about Rose's Sword that it was made to cut and hurt a gem body, but never the actual gem. So, I think it was really impossible for Rose or Pearl to use the sword to shatter pink diamond, bismuth stated that the sword she made, could NEVER shatter a gem, and Eyeball clearly remembers Rose's sword, obviously meaning that the weapon used against pink diamond was that sword. So eyeball, as every other ruby in her team, was dumb enough to be fooled that pink diamond has been shattered. We had a whole episode with bismuth, about the choice rose made to not use her shatter-weapon, to not shatter other gems, and in that episode, Bismuth stated that Rose's sword could never shatter a gem. Now we have the information that eyeball ruby(who was already fooled many times), remember Rose's Sword, from the events that she saw from the "shatter of pink diamond", and knowing that Rose's Sword can't shatter a gem, we can assume she never really shattered pink diamond. The Shatter was a Lie. Someone Faked it, maybe Pink diamond actually was a good gem, and wanted to help Rose somehow and then the other diamonds realizing that Pink Diamond would use all earth soldiers against them, faked pink diamonds shatter by the hands of a fake Rose Quartz, so the soldiers from earth would stay fighting by their side, believing that Rose Quartz shattered their diamond. And Rose simply couldn't deny it, since people had already seem the fake shatter and they truly believed it, so Rose had to play the "villain". Maybe Rose knew that Pink Diamond was actually corrupted, and without being able to bring her back, she could never prove her innocence. So Rose won the war, and then tamed Pink Diamond while she was corrupted, in a similar form that steven tamed centipeetle, so the corrupted pink diamond taken the smallest form she could get and became really passive, and currently, she is lion. Lion has a mane that is very similar to pink diamond's hair. "But he doesn't have a gem in his navel" I KNOW, but look at centipeetle before being half healed, her gem was inside her mouth, and after half healed, it became an eye above her mouth. So corruption can change the placement of the gem at least a little, and Pink Diamond's gem is inside Lion's Mane.
@starkid910
@starkid910 8 жыл бұрын
My personal theory is that the shattering of PD happened towards the end of the war. Based on Eyeball's asking of "Jasper" where she was when it happened, that implies to me Jasper may have been alive at the time. Then the shattering, either by Rose, Pearl, or maybe some other third entity, is what caused the mass evacuation of Earth. In Lapis and Centipeedle's flashbacks, we saw that the evacuation was huge and rushed, so rushed that many Homeworld Gems like Centipeedle and her crew were left behind. To me, this implies that some major event took place that shook Homeworld's resolve, causing them to leave and essentially nuke the place (the Corruption Attack). What could could be more catastrophic than the shattering of a Diamond, a supposedly perfect being in the eyes of Gems?
@jessielefey
@jessielefey 8 жыл бұрын
The only reason why i lean Pearl (and it's lean, mind, i'm not wedded to it) is that we get this infodrop right after an episode that's basically a giant blinking arrow saying "easily tricked! unreliable narrator!!" What are the odds that that's a coincidence? Stories we've been told were way more complicated that they first seemed *without* an episode reminding us that the primary witness is unreliable. The adults lie to Steven all the time, they tell him what they think he needs to know more than the straight facts. I don't trust them or this story.
@AJUniverse
@AJUniverse 8 жыл бұрын
Garnet has never lied to Steven. She's refrained from telling him things until she thought he was ready, but she's never lied to him. Even after telling him about Future Vision, when he asked, she told him about the possible futures where he dies. Because she doesn't lie to him, ever. Why would she start now?
@blacksesamecandies
@blacksesamecandies 8 жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean Garnet can't be fooled by lies, if you remember the whole Sardonyx arc. Sure Garnet has some clearvoyance but it is not absolute, she loved Rose - so that trust could have made her not question what her leader told her. Besides, Garnet did kind of beat around the bush with her answer.
@AJUniverse
@AJUniverse 8 жыл бұрын
blacksesamecandies Who said anything about Garnet's clairvoyance? It's possible that Rose lied to Garnet for some reason, and fooled her, but we also have an eyewitness saying the same thing. And before you elaborate on your implication here that Garnet lied to Steven, keep in mind that Garnet is the only Gem in the series who has never lied to Steven once.
@blacksesamecandies
@blacksesamecandies 8 жыл бұрын
AJ Universe She may not have directly lied but her along with the other CGs have purposely held information from Steven until they felt the time was "right" for him to know. (Rose shattering PD, what Gem monsters were, Garnet being a fusion, Bismuth being a CG the list goes on about information withheld) Even then, they seem to try to break things down to simple terms in order for him to understand. As for clairyoance, its implied in the video that Garnet would know the truth due to future-vision - i.e. she saw Rose shattering PD as a possibility. TBH the most upfront gem with Steven is actually Peridot, she almost always readily explains information and doesn't skirt around it.
@mayashley6163
@mayashley6163 8 жыл бұрын
Another decent point to bring up is that Rose's sword, as crafted and stated by Bismuth, is designed to poof physical forms without shattering gems. Throughout her episode, there are no real instances or lies or misleading statements, especially about her own handiwork. This is another thing lending credence to the Pearl theory; while Rose was a capable Quartz warrior, her offensive weapon would be incapable of shattering any gem, let alone PD. As for Pearl's weapon, there is no evidence that would state that it is or is not capable of shattering gems.
@digifreak90
@digifreak90 8 жыл бұрын
4:20 THANK YOU! Someone else who gets why Pink diamond getting shattered couldn't have started the war because Jasper was made when it happened. I personally think that Pink Diamond's death is what caused the other diamonds to call for the retreat before using whatever power/attack/weapon caused the corruption.
@DJVaughan
@DJVaughan 8 жыл бұрын
Aren't gems programmed with things like what kind of job they'll have who their diamond is, meaning Jasper would have know she was suppose to go to pink diamond when she came out. I mean gems are meant to be ready for use straight out of the ground, and I know that their will be things they need to learn after they come out of the ground, but it would make sense for them have basic and general knowledge like who their diamond is.
@traffowo
@traffowo 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe Rose Quartz is from the alpha kindergarten. Like how jasper is from beta and amethyst is from prime
@kcm5577
@kcm5577 8 жыл бұрын
I think we will get more information as we get an episode where Steven visits the palloquine (sp) from Buddy's journal. There has to be something significant about it & Pink Diamond or it would not have been introduced. I think it was PD's and that may be the location where she was shattered or her death was faked (whichever theory you subscribe to). But as everyone points out, diamonds can't be poofed, Bismuth said the sword is for poofing only, Eyeball referenced the sword, & the palloquine was introduced for a reason.
@samiamtheman7379
@samiamtheman7379 8 жыл бұрын
I think Eyeball was always a servant of Yellow Diamond as some gems seem to be exclusive to a specific Diamond's court as in "The Answer", it is shown that the rubies were not from Blue Diamond's court, but were sent to protect Sapphire, who was a member of BD's court. This possibly means that Rubies are exclusive to Yellow Diamond's court. Another reason for this is Eyeball doesn't have the same feelings toward Pink Diamond as she believes Amethyst-Jasper does. She even refers to Pink Diamond as Jasper's original Diamond and she also never refers to PD as her Diamond, but as Pink Diamond. This is similar to how Jasper never referred to Yellow Diamond as her Diamond, because she originally belonged to another Diamond.
@P1_D
@P1_D 8 жыл бұрын
Eyyyyyyy XD THAT LAST MINUTE PUN shatters the theory XD SO PERFECT
@Lovesickobsession19
@Lovesickobsession19 8 жыл бұрын
A lot of people have been saying that Rose couldn't have shattered PD because Bismuth specifically says that the sword cannot shatter, despite Eyeball's recognizing it. I think that Rose did shatter PD, just not with the sword. Eyeball didn't even recognize a photo of Rose or even the gem itself, she just says she remembers the sword. I assume there were things likened to wanted posters depicting the sword, or suggesting that any gem with that sword either was Rose, or connected to Rose somehow.
@willbrownman47
@willbrownman47 8 жыл бұрын
You say that a diamond would break like any other gem, but diamonds, in the real world at least, are incredibly resilient and hard. There would definitely be extra force that had to be applied.
@heatherfaust7643
@heatherfaust7643 8 жыл бұрын
We have never seen Pearl shapeshift even though she clearly stated that she's capable. Perhaps she hasn't shapeshifted since shattering PD as Rose and it has traumatized her from ever shapeshifting again.
@osamapatrick8642
@osamapatrick8642 8 жыл бұрын
that theory came from cartoon universe's video
@AJUniverse
@AJUniverse 8 жыл бұрын
We have seen Pearl shapeshift.
@heatherfaust7643
@heatherfaust7643 8 жыл бұрын
I couldn't remember exactly where I heard it. When did Pearl shape shift?
@osamapatrick8642
@osamapatrick8642 8 жыл бұрын
I don't think she has so yeah when
@heatherfaust7643
@heatherfaust7643 8 жыл бұрын
Because I don't really count when she changed her outfit for the beach party with the Pizzas. She still had her distinctive features, she didn't completely change her form.
@badgerlord87
@badgerlord87 8 жыл бұрын
It doesn't make any sense to me that Pink Diamond would've been shattered at the beginning or the midpoint of the war. It really only makes sense to me that the shattering of Pink Diamond was what ended the war. Think about it. The Diamond's corruption attack was a sudden event, so sudden that they lost many of their own in the attack. It was clearly a nuclear option used out of panic. What could possibly spur the seemingly spontaneous use of such an overwhelmingly powerful retaliatory attack? The only answer that makes sense to me is that one of their own got hit. Until that point, the Diamonds were untouchable. Seems like the only motivation strong enough for them to go nuclear so quickly.
@elishamiller6879
@elishamiller6879 8 жыл бұрын
I think that she was shattered at the end of the war. This, I think, is supported by the fact that eyeball ruby had heard of Jasper before hand, having emerged fighting and taking out several crystal gems instantly, and then asked amethyst disguised as jasper where she was during the assault on Pink Diamond. this would imply that Jasper had emerged prior to the shattering of Pink Diamond and another thing that points to "The Shattering" as I call it, is that Garnet's says that shattering Pink Diamond was the only way for the earth to truly be free of the Diamond's grip. If that's the case, then I think that Rose would have waited until the very end of the war before even attempting something like this, but that's just me.
@Tazzykiki
@Tazzykiki 8 жыл бұрын
Well we now know where Rose got her symbol from, the star. PD's hair is shaped like a star, Rose has always had a star in her dress, Bismuth has a star in her belt and etc. Wait, so if a gem is transferred to another diamond section, do they have to change their diamond's symbol? So then they would be forced to poof...huh
@timberlyjones9012
@timberlyjones9012 8 жыл бұрын
no
@noyaxus442
@noyaxus442 8 жыл бұрын
Look at the old Diamond Authority symbol compared to the new one (On the ship in Jailbreak). Yellow Diamond is on the bottom left of the symbol but her gem is still on her chest (seen in Message Received).
@TheChazzyC
@TheChazzyC 8 жыл бұрын
The star is Rose's own symbol, bud. Pretty much every crystal gem at this point in the show has a star, including Garnet. It's just a simple logo and not much to worry about.
@Tazzykiki
@Tazzykiki 8 жыл бұрын
TheChazzyC I was just saying since PD had star shaped hair and Rose most likely had that symbol ever since she served her, as do all other gems assigned to a diamond. But it's just an assumption, nothing overly serious.
@jamesdor9907
@jamesdor9907 8 жыл бұрын
PD's hair is not shaped like a star are you even looking at that mural
@brianshrode72
@brianshrode72 8 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early it was on another video long before AJ was ever on KZbin.
@pwojo9776
@pwojo9776 8 жыл бұрын
It'd be funny if the war lasted much less longer than we think it did, like say a few weeks maybe 2 months. Gems don't really have much of a concept of time like we do, armies could essentially relay info back to homeworld and teleport to anywhere on Earth in a matter of hours, and from what we've seen Gems are skilled, efficient fighters that can dispatch other gems in minutes. I know this might throw off every other theorized timeline, but we don't really know how long the gems have been on Earth before the war, how long it takes for gems to be made, how long it took for gem structures on Earth to be built, and there seem to be a lot of missing pieces in the canon/implied timeline we do know.
@trinity6344
@trinity6344 8 жыл бұрын
also pearls horrified reaction to "rose shattered pink diamond " and that probably ment that pearl knew that steven knew his mom was nice so she was terrified that steven found out what his mom was hiding
@MinutelyHipster
@MinutelyHipster 8 жыл бұрын
2 things that go in opposite directions.1) For most of the episode that Eyeball gives her witness testimony, Amethyst is playing as Jasper, and the Rubies believe the disguise. This may just be another jab at the Rubies' stupidity, or the Crewniverse could've been introducing the concept of shapeshifting into another Gem as a passable disguise as a way of explaining that it was possible Pearl (or anyone) shapeshifted into Rose for the shattering. Maybe Eyeball and another group of Rubies were the only witnesses and they reported that it was Rose because they're so gullible.However2) Bismuth and Rose's opposition to shattering Gems I feel has some place in this conversation. If Bismuth was bubbled after Pink Diamond was shattered then surely Bismuth would've accused Rose (and Steven when she thought he was Rose) a hypocrite. Bismuth may have even mentioned Rose's shattering of Pink Diamond as inspiration for the Breaking Point had she been conscious through it. But she doesn't, so it's safe to assume Bismuth was bubbled before PD was shattered. (There may be some timeline issues with this though...)This could be important because if Bismuth was bubbled it's possible Rose went to Bismuth's workstation and retrieved the Breaking Point to shatter PD, and putting it back afterwards. If Pearl had done this, she would've asked questions as to where this new material weapon was from. Maybe Rose went alone and left some details out that the Crystal Gems didn't push on due to the mental strain of shattering another Gem, even an enemy Gem, would've had on Rose.Either way there's no way to truly tell with what information we have at the moment.
@Tonberry115
@Tonberry115 8 жыл бұрын
One more thing I can think of is how Eyeball could remember the specific color and shade of Rose's gem, as a reddish pink. I think this does major damage to the 'Pearl did it' theory since shapeshifted gems, as far as we've seen, can't change their color palette. If it was pearl, the fake quartz in her navel would have been white, judging by how Amethyst's dummy quartz (as well as the pearl and jasper from when she shapeshifted into them) stayed within her color palette. If it was Pearl that Eyeball had seen, I don't think she would have recalled the color of Rose's actual gem with as much accuracy since that color simply isn't a part of Pearl. Keep in mind that Eyeball was the one who actually did notice Amethyst!Jasper looking off, but Amethyst kept the lie going. Amethyst's real gem was mostly covered by her fake uniform, so that wouldn't have given her away. Rubies aren't smart, but they aren't exceedingly stupid either.
@silentbob4841
@silentbob4841 8 жыл бұрын
I think Pink Diamond was shattered during the end of the war. Which caused Homeworld to panic and decide that earth was not worth fighting for anymore and caused them to flee suddenly and the light/song thing was their last act of revenge
@DaphnePfister
@DaphnePfister 8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that it might have been both. Suppose Pearl was initially not known as a crystal gem and was also still acting as Pink Diamond's Pearl. She could have been an unknown informant at the beginning of the war, possibly even shape shifting to slightly different Pearl shapes when acting in the rebellion and as a spy. Later on a plan is hatched where Pearl uses her access to Pink Diamond to sneak Rose in so that Rose could shatter Pink diamond. The flashback with Pearl and Rose could have been Rose checking with her first before carrying out such a plan. It could also explain Pearl's reaction to the event being brought back up. Even if she didn't shatter Pink diamond her betrayal would have directly lead to it.
@Ghibligirl88
@Ghibligirl88 8 жыл бұрын
yeah, Pink Diamond definitely had not poofed by the time Garnet joined the CG's.
@trulsive
@trulsive 8 жыл бұрын
We think we now that perle/rose shatered pink diamond and we dont now where she is bubbled maybe inn the chest innside of Lion, Or you remeber the magic moss who is in one of the first episodes in steven universe there is it a gem scar in the flowers and it is pink.
@spiritofblue6610
@spiritofblue6610 8 жыл бұрын
I was watching ocean gem today, and theres the part where theyre all battling their water counterparts and theyre losing, and then steven says how he doesnt want to fight and his shield makes all of the water versions fall apart. Well we're still learning about the powers of the rose quartz gem. I would think that if rose quartz actually shattered pink diamond she was protecting the other crystal gems vs. actually meaning to do it, it would have had to have been an accident (im sure someones already said this). But what if something similar to this happened to rose, where the shield almost had a mind of its own. Granted lapis was a cracked gem.
@v1gilantics
@v1gilantics 7 жыл бұрын
I really like this theory! You covered a lot of ground and explained it nicely. One thing that both may add to and questions this theory, though, is the episode "The Answer". It is never directly stated if this took place before, after, or during the war. The Crystal Gems may have not been as well known before the war, and if it was after the war then it doesn't make since, as Garnet was most likely a part of the war. This leads me to believe that "The Answer" took place during the war. One thing i noticed is Blue Diamond's actions. One stage of loss (Ex: She lost Pink Diamond) is anger, and she took anger out on Ruby for accidentally fusing with Sapphire. From this I believe this took place only a short time after Pink's death. So instead of Pink's shattering being in the direct middle of the war, between the middle and the beggining, closer to the middle. But this is just an idea, nothing big. I'm not actually sure what theory to believe out of the tons of speculations I've seen, but this is one of my favorite. I've seen a few of your videos and they're pretty good! I hope you look forward to a new sub :)
@AJUniverse
@AJUniverse 7 жыл бұрын
If you consider the dates, then we can actually extrapolate if it took place before the war or not. And it did. A few hundred years before, in fact. And we know that Pink's shattering was later in the war, that it was done to drive Homeworld off of the planet for good. That's the only reason why Rose did it. I only say that it had to have happened after the halfway point because that's when Pink made the second Kindergarten. She had to have been alive at least that long.
@goldguardian2553
@goldguardian2553 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, Today in class I was learning things about the periodic table and I found the Diamonds' logo on the table. Now my teacher didn't explained what it was, but it did catch my attention. Plus I was wondering if Pink Diamond and White Diamond had a bad interaction in the past. That question was coming from the episode when Steven and the Gems where in that upside down pyramid temple. Sorry for typing so much, its just that your videos are sooooo great. =D
@AlienZizi
@AlienZizi 8 жыл бұрын
i havent put together a sound theory but i have a feeling pink diamond was trying to help the rebellion which is why pearl had such a reaction
@tylerbaldwin3269
@tylerbaldwin3269 8 жыл бұрын
Looking through the comments, I have not yet seen anything about Pink Diamond being in the bubble room. You can clearly see a diamond in a rose quartz bubble in certain episodes, my favorite, in which they poof peridot and then Steven proceeds to free her on accident. In one of the long shots, you can clearly see an in focus bubbled diamond. I think the whole Pink Diamond being shattered was just a propaganda thing. "Hey look, these rebels shattered one of your leaders, come fight for us!" It would make sense, ad that is the theory I am going with.
@MPythonGirl
@MPythonGirl 8 жыл бұрын
Is a bubbling close enough to a shattering that the witnesses could confuse one for the other?
@tylerbaldwin3269
@tylerbaldwin3269 8 жыл бұрын
Could have just been a point of view thing, one eyed ruby didn't see things correctly, maybe pink was poofed, and the ruby thought she also got shattered, I could be wrong, it's just a theory with a lot of evidence to support it, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the way the show goes, though we know Rose did IN FACT keep secrets(bismuth), so it wouldn't be a stretch to think that she lied about what happened with pink diamond.
@tylerbaldwin3269
@tylerbaldwin3269 8 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this is relevant to what I said or not.
@jeremelric
@jeremelric 8 жыл бұрын
Diamonds can be cut many ways, but the gems we've seen bubbled a few times (and the one found in the lighthouse) that looks like Diamond Ring-style cuts are not diamonds. They've led to theories on multiple occasions, but we've seen Yellow Diamonds and her gem and see that the cut matches the images we've seen of the diamonds and is a simple 4-sided parallelogram shape, like a diamond playing card. While we've only seen one in person, the murals of others match this diamond gem-shape and it's likely something they all share. Also, the CGs reactions to being reminded of the fate of PD would make absolutely no sense if she was just bubbled at the Crystal Heart.
@tylerbaldwin3269
@tylerbaldwin3269 8 жыл бұрын
It's just a theory, it's possible the CGs had no idea PD was bubbled at all, it seems that they poof corrupted gems, then send them back to the temple, Garnet even said that they don't mess with the bubbled because they know the corrupted gems cannot be healed. Just a theory , also I had no idea diamonds could be cut in different ways, the more you know lol
@rRecoveryProd
@rRecoveryProd 8 жыл бұрын
Funny moment with that squashing and Eyeball peeking out.
@user-yx2yn2mk3y
@user-yx2yn2mk3y 8 жыл бұрын
what if she just had a bad reaction because watching a gem be shattered is just super traumatizing
@Skinnymarks
@Skinnymarks 8 жыл бұрын
Also note that the events that led to Garnets birth where blue diamond retreated. This occured after pink diamond was shattered.
@thisisquestspeaking-9168
@thisisquestspeaking-9168 7 жыл бұрын
I think the temple woman/gem shattered pink diamond because rose was pretty big, but the diamonds are freaking HUGE. I know there is speculation that the statue is pink diamond, but all the gem/ stained glass windows of the diamonds actually look the part of the diamonds. And in that window, pink diamond has short, star like hair and 2 arms, not large curly hair and 6 arms
@gabrielajuarez9452
@gabrielajuarez9452 8 жыл бұрын
But bismuth said Rose's sword can't shatter gems. How does that work? Legit curious.
@AJUniverse
@AJUniverse 8 жыл бұрын
When in the video did I say that Rose's sword was used to shatter Pink Diamond? Because I'm pretty sure I specifically pointed out that something else would have been used.
@gabrielajuarez9452
@gabrielajuarez9452 8 жыл бұрын
I tried to respond to your comment but it wouldn't work.! Sorry, I should've paid more attention. I really love your videos!
@coldgindrinker5587
@coldgindrinker5587 8 жыл бұрын
I think if Rose didn't shattered PD, it would be a huge copout just to keep her reputation clean. That to me doesn't make Rose a character of much depth and not very likable. I do like her, but it wouldn't give her much character development if she didn't do the deed, but that's just me.
@sarahmadden9520
@sarahmadden9520 8 жыл бұрын
keep in mind that in real life the only way to cut a diamond is by another diamond(or laser cut) and i know its a tv show but there has been lots of details of real life references in the show.
@jacobhenry2721
@jacobhenry2721 8 жыл бұрын
with Rose being the leader of the Crystal Gems if the temple Fusion was used in battle against Pink Dimond it would be completely logical for all non rebal Gems to view a Fusion including the leader to be an action done by the leader. And perhaps in the last moments of the fusion pear was the one who willed to strike the critical blow against pink Dimond. This would also have Roses sword present for eyeballs testimony to hold up.
@HighsideOfJupiter
@HighsideOfJupiter 8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that the rubies who were there to protect pink diamond would've been shattered for not doing what they were suppose to, you know?
@Templarfreak
@Templarfreak 8 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty good point.
@ryancarson6962
@ryancarson6962 8 жыл бұрын
That couldn't had happened otherwise eyeball would not be in the show since she stated herself that's she seen pink diamond get killed.
@HighsideOfJupiter
@HighsideOfJupiter 8 жыл бұрын
I know that, I'm simply saying it would make sense that way since gems get shattered for not doing what they are suppose to do
@Templarfreak
@Templarfreak 8 жыл бұрын
Ryan Carson Exactly, that's why it's a good point. So Eyeball could potentially be lying or something else is up.
@ryancarson6962
@ryancarson6962 8 жыл бұрын
Templarfreak I don't think she is lying about it she doesn't have a reason to do that since she herself was loyal to pink diamond.
@100noteli7
@100noteli7 8 жыл бұрын
You should make a video about that reddish shard that Steven connects with another shard and how it looked like it would be a part of pink Diamond or a video on if yellow diamond got a hold of most of the pink diamond's shards but she didn't have them all so she put them into the cluster so that the cluster would be even more powerful
@gamer-x-hunter2271
@gamer-x-hunter2271 8 жыл бұрын
+AJ Universe Good theory. However there is one fatal flaw in this video. . . The Diamonds CAN'T be poofed. Matt Burnett confirmed this on his Twitter in a conversation: Date: April 23, 2016 @bananacoins: Can Diamonds change their appearance after a poof reforming or even at all? @mcburnett: A Diamond poofing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. ________ This does actually make since as to why Rose or even Pearl would have to kill Pink Diamond, and even why Bismuth would have extra incentive in creating the Breaking Point. Because if the Diamonds can't be poofed, then the only logical way to stop them is to shatter their gem stons.
@soxxygirl42
@soxxygirl42 8 жыл бұрын
That's not even a definitive response - laughing could just be expressing that it is harder to poof diamonds, due to toughness or added security. Or it could be an upcoming plot point that a diamond will poof and he wants to leave very subtle hints.
@heart-song
@heart-song 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I'm so sick of seeing this theory everywhere when it's so implausible (and stupid).
@RonaldDotCa
@RonaldDotCa 8 жыл бұрын
what if gems immerge from the ground loyal to a certain diamond? and that's why Jasper is loyal to pink diamond. maybe amethyst would have been loyal, but she was cooked too long and only recognized the colour pink, which would make sense for why amethyst trusted rose.
@tatiannachandler4196
@tatiannachandler4196 8 жыл бұрын
So I take it that you haven't seen the few theories about a fusion being what had shattered Pink Diamond? I had seen a few theories about the possibility of Rose Quartz, Pearl, and Garnet fusing to defeat Pink Diamond ( Possibly for height and strength purposes). That might also explain the " Large sword" that eyeball had brung up, along with the view of: " Fusion is just a cheap tactic to make weak gems stronger."Then again, this might not be the case.
@TheNeuroticnathan
@TheNeuroticnathan 8 жыл бұрын
in regards to pearl being the one to kill pink diamond, think about the "do it for her" song and pearl's general suicidal devotion in that episode it kind of adds credibility to it.
@nightflyergames6299
@nightflyergames6299 8 жыл бұрын
But think of it this way, maybe the gem war ended by pink diamond being shattered. It was clearly something so devastating to the home world gems. The other three diamonds could have feared rose finding a way to shatter them so they issued a retreat for their own safety. I know I'm probably completely wrong with this theory but I feel it's some what interesting.
@hippityhoppity3720
@hippityhoppity3720 8 жыл бұрын
AAAAAHHHH THE PUN AT THE END
@cassermck
@cassermck 8 жыл бұрын
I really think the emphasis eyeball put on only seeing the sword was too important. But I suppose, at the time pink diamond was shattered, the gems might not have figured out their weapons yet. Also, I think it's a stretch, but what if the other gems don't know that pearl did it, and rose just took the blame/credit. I just think it would explain pearls aversion to shapeshifting, and maybe why rose kept pearl at a certain distance. I guess we'll see either way.
@gabaii7363
@gabaii7363 8 жыл бұрын
"i'm just a pearl, i'm useless on my own AND BY THE WAY I SHATTERED A DIAMOND LOL THUG LIFE Pearl shattering a diamond would be on list of Pearl development. It doesn't make sense AT ALL solely by that, BUT, it's on Steven and HIS relationship with Rose. IF it was Pearl, she probably would've talked to him and explained her motives and bla. She let garnet conducting the situation might imply a possible trauma, but again, THIS would make part of her character development since she killed a motherfucking DIAMOND? HER? A PEARL? She struggled with her confidence before in the series, why she could do that without mentioning Pink Diamond and what she 'done'? Looking at her character, I can't see that happen, because would erase all the motives of Pearl low self steem since she proved herself by killing PD thousands of years ago. (english is not my first language, sorry any typo/mistake)
@ryancarson6962
@ryancarson6962 8 жыл бұрын
The only thing I can think of is the diamonds aren't that powerful as they're hyped up to be.
@wolfdiosa
@wolfdiosa 8 жыл бұрын
Now we have to think about bismuth. Remember she got proofed and bubbled away because she didn't want to shatter.
@MrReganomics1
@MrReganomics1 8 жыл бұрын
Pink diamond was shattered because of pearl, the meeting was while pearl was still loyal to pink diamond. Her act of defection was the doublecross and shattering of pink diamond. Blue diamond then occupied earth which is when she met garnet. This theory makes do it for her take in a whole new context.
@decaytale
@decaytale 8 жыл бұрын
It had to be Rose. Eyeball had an exact memory of her gem color and everything, but gems seem unable to change colors while shape shifting. people might point out that she didnt realize she wasn't talking to the real Jasper, but I think she only heard about Jasper and never actually saw her. Either way she would recognize if somone just shapeshifted into Rose.
@msKnoozer
@msKnoozer 8 жыл бұрын
let's take the discussion a little bit further.... everyone go back and re-watch the episode titled 'beta'. which if u recall, was the episode preceding the revalation as to what happened to pink diamond. I think pink diamond was shattered right there in the beta kindergarten and here's why: as soon as the gang warps into the kindergarten and peridot is going about her lecture about how inferior it is to amethysts kindergarten and they do a screen shot of an injector drill on its side, towering over them, steven asks "what happened here?" bam, dead give away....I guarantee we will come to find out later on that the beta kindergarten is where pink diamond was shattered. somehow she was impaled on those drill heads. the theory to it actually being pearl or perhaps even the "temple" itself that shattered her are pretty interesting. but for now we have the place, the murder weapon(s), the motive, we're just not totally sure who
@Natboy129
@Natboy129 8 жыл бұрын
I think there are two possibilities here: 1- That Rose did shatter Pink Diamond and Pearls reaction was because of watching the gem she admired so much committing such an act, 2- That Pearl did shatter Pink Diamond but in a way that accidentally made Rose look responsible. Here my idea: The Crystal Gems, at this point being Rose, Pearl, Garnet and maybe Bismuth, lead an attack on Pink Diamond, like they did with Blue Diamond. The gems guarding Pink Diamond fight with Garnet, Pearl and perhaps bismuth, while Rose confronts Pink diamond head on. During the battle, Rose is losing and is about to be defeated and perhaps shattered, Pearl seeing this rushes to her aid and lands a critical hit shattering Pink Diamond in unintentionally, however from Eyeballs perspective it looks like Rose did it, and because she is leading the rebellion its blamed on her, or perhaps to protect Pearl she says it was her that did it. Maybe this is why Garnet told Steven it was Rose, because she never saw the events unfold and thus Rose took the blame so that Pearl wouldnt be looked at differently. You could also change the order of the events, having Pink Diamond being shattered before Blue Diamond, therefore Blue Diamonds retreat makes more sense since there is a very real threat now, and thus why Garnet thinks Rose Shattered Pink Diamond. Remember the crewniverse has said we know the least about Pearl of all the gems, whether that be the truth behind PD or just her original owner (Perhaps White Diamond) we still dont know. This might also explain Pearls connection with Rose, feeling like she was the one she came to with her secrets. Also it could be a Development point for Rose, and doesnt seem too radically out of character for her.
@shinethief3785
@shinethief3785 8 жыл бұрын
It is possible that Lion was a corrupted pearl that Rose managed to heal to some extent. Then Lion became apart of Rose's lion pride, to give Lion so sence of socialization, to help it to feel loved a wanted. But as time marched on, the lion pride died out and Lion was left alone without Rose knowing of course. Sort of like like what happen to Cetapidle.
@leogh1378
@leogh1378 8 жыл бұрын
yes yes fave show fave channel fave subject fave character yasss
@124566Rrg
@124566Rrg 8 жыл бұрын
I love this theory because it makes sense
@mattfusco622
@mattfusco622 8 жыл бұрын
Might i add that it couldnt have possibly been Pearl for one reason. Obviously the Rubies are easily fooled, but we see when one of the gems shape-shifts, all the other Gems knows who they really are. Not to mention, their Gem is still present and visible on their shape-shifted form. So do we REALLY think a DIAMOND could be fooled by a shape-shift?
@just_guess_
@just_guess_ 8 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it seems like Pink Diamond was actually killed towards the end of the war. Maybe this is just my interpretation, but it seems like Homeworld was prepared to fight for control of their colony (and the apparently essential resources it contained) until those rebels were destroyed. Then, the unthinkable and Rose Quartz shattered Pink Diamond. That, it seems, was the point where the other Diamonds were forced to relinquish control of Earth, fleeing out of fear that they may be next. The Crystal Gems' rebellion started the war, but Rose Quartz shattering Pink Diamond ended it.
@pokegard
@pokegard 8 жыл бұрын
Rose is a monster, like the WAU in soma
@virginiacaynak1141
@virginiacaynak1141 8 жыл бұрын
How I interpreted the episode was that 1. Eyeball saw the sword and some version of rose quartz and 2. Both garnet and pearl had extreme reactions, but not so much amethyst. What I thought was that garnet, pearl, and rose fused to make the temple gem and, with rose's sword, shattered pink diamond, later telling amethyst after they found her. But that's just my theory
@virginiacaynak1141
@virginiacaynak1141 8 жыл бұрын
I also always assumed it was at the end, sort of a last suicide effort. I thought this because of the diamonds spontaneously corrupting the planet and barrel caring for their soldiers left behind. The way I see it, the crystal gems killed the gem in charge of earth, pink diamond, so the rest of the diamonds, in fear and retaliation, essentially nuked the world.
@Atriviality
@Atriviality 8 жыл бұрын
I think Pink Diamond started the war to drive Homeworld from Earth and she was using Rose to be the figurehead of the rebellion. When things were going badly, in order to scare Homeworld away Pink Diamond had Rose "shatter" her with her sword that only disrupts a gem's body. Unfortunately the other Diamonds decided to corrupt the gems on Earth as retaliation and Pink Diamond was corrupted as well.
@cybergord2016
@cybergord2016 8 жыл бұрын
I am so glad someone else believes that pink Dimond was shattered during the war and not the cause of the war. If you listen to eyeball ruby's story she said the rebellon got out of hand and pink Dimond was smashed. So it was already going on. I would like to add, the seen in "the answer" I think the reason blue dimond ran rather than fight was because pink Dimond was already dead. There was a real fear that she could die. that also means that garnet might not know the real story to how pink Dimond died. And then there is the line from "Rose scabbered". Pearls said, Rose shared all her secrets with her alone. what secrets does she know that garnet does not?
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