Razer Wolverine Ultimate Is BETTER Than New Wolverine V2 Chroma

[@andrewverdino769]

I have tried both, this is not mentioned in most reviews or specs, but the chroma does not have trigger rumbles, the ultimate does. I play mostly racing games and no trigger rumbles really hurts. The chroma only has the rumbles in the handles.

[@GamerHeavenOfficial]

Good point man! That’s true and I forgot to mention it

[@AAA-Wolf]

What are rumbles???????

[@nonplusultra18]

@@AAA-Wolf the very small vibration motors controllers usually have.

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

That is so weird that they decided to downgrade that in the new one

[@bladeshred01]

@@guybrushthreepwood8174 companies will take away as many features as they can to save money but notice how the price doesn't really change. This controller is definitely a step backwards. And they have the balls to charge $150 for it too.

[@yandhi_6382]

Ur so underrated bro, you’re much needed in the gaming community

[@babybenna1]

Tournament edition was by far the best, the backplates were actually in a comfortable spot to rest your fingers.

[@ViceSnipe]

Great video, I picked up the ultimate after doing a bit of research. The Wolverine V2 is way more comfortable in my hands but I like the idea of having the Ultimate as a back up/travel option.

[@pitviper45]

Love your controller reviews! Tyvm I’m torn on the chroma. My biggest problem with it are the deadzones (yes I’ve updated the firmware and have the deadzones on the lowest setting). It feels like it has a built in deadzone that is noticeably bigger than a first party or SCUF Instinct controller. My guess is that they did this to stop people from complaining about stick drift. Corporate Office: “You can’t have stick drift if the controller is not registering any input. That’ll shut em up.” Did you notice that? For example, in Fortnite if I put deadzone down to minimum I don’t get immediate response, there’s a delay. First party and SCUF give immediate response. Otherwise, I found the Chroma’s trigger stops felt shorter and the bumpers have better tactile feedback than Ultimate. The plastic def feels cheaper but it also feels less “rattle-y” than the Wolverine. Like if you shake the Ultimate it feels like things aren’t properly glued/nailed down inside, or when you engage the trigger stops.

[@pitviper45]

@@aweigh1010 Long term follow up: I gave up on the Chroma because of the deadzone issue. I had a new Ultimate ready to go, but it had bad stick drift out of the box so I went to SCUF Instinct Pro and after a month my aim was much more consistent. The Instinct Pro has been my main controller since. I was going to try SCUF Reflex but there are rumors of a first party Sony elite/pro controller so I am waiting to see what happens. Happy with the Instinct for now, but the rear paddles are not ideal, it’s hard to cover them with different fingers because the design is optimized for you to have one finger there and “rock” it back and forth to hit the paddles. This is not ideal if you need to hit both paddles simultaneously or in quick succession. I’m hoping Sony’s first party controller (if it is real) solves this problem.

[@panda51829able]

I agree. The wider trigger stance in the v2 chroma is makes using the triggers a bit odd. Still neat but I do prefer the original. So sad they are discontinuing the Wolverine ultimate. Thankfully I have 2 new sealed ones for such times. Thanks for the video stallion 🗣💨

[@mr.getitdone1451]

I just ordered the ultimate with warranty on Amazon if it stops working will the warranty fix it or will they send me a new one ?

[@EasyHeat]

Currently $65 on Amazon. Great content BTW! 🤓✌🤟🖖

[@tdubbleu76]

ultimate is so good, i "upgraded" to the V2 and now its just an emergency backup. i rebought the ultimate for $80 (a steal). Hell i might just buy another before you cant find em anymore!

[@Nick-dq6en]

I purchased both recently and while this may be true to an extent, buying a new Ultimate now is risky. The Ultimates I got had horrible left stick issues. Recent on sale ones. Like right out of the box, my characters moving no touch. I had to put deadzone settings to 7+ in games out of 10 to get it to stop. The app showed my left sticks weren't moving but the center of the stick was off center by a significant amount. There seems to be a sentiment on Reddit etc that potentially all old stock could run the risk and the reason is actually because of the case. The case apparently sets the stick a little off center. Couple that with the stock sitting for a year or longer, held perfectly off center by the case lid. I gave up on trying a few new replacements of the Ultimate. Can't be coincidental, all the same. Take it for what you will but it seems this risk could run through all the stock going out. I loved getting the case and whatnot, it made them feel more premium than the v2 Chroma but...functionality. I had no problems with the v2 Chroma but I did not like the placement of the select and start of the v2 Chroma. I also did not like the USB C being fairly moveable. Not nearly as snug as the Wolverine Ultimate plug at the top of the controller. Seemed bizarre it would have so much play to it. Just my experience buying both of them recently.

[@brzozx7651]

So which one is better now in your opinion ?

[@Nick-dq6en]

@@brzozx7651 I quit bothering with the Ultimate even though I like what you get for your money. v2 Chroma is my go to for now.

[@brzozx7651]

@@Nick-dq6enso i should pick v2 ? in UK price difference is 5 GBP so i think its not worth it to take ultimate

[@Nick-dq6en]

@@brzozx7651 I would say yes, but ymmv.

[@mitchmag9100]

Damn so thats why I got 2 wolverine ultimates from amazon in the same week and they both came with stick drift. I also bought a 3rd one last year and it had a somewhat defective m3 button out of the box and only lasted about 4 months. The wolverine ultimate I use now has bad stick drift on the left stick luckely the game I play allowed me to dull the deadzone so I don't feel it most of the time. The rt button also came somewhat janky. Im gonna try the chroma v2 soon hopefully its similar enough to the wolverine ultimate.

[@GatorMan016]

i bought the Wolverine ultimate less than a week ago off Amazon (before watching this video) but i'm glad I did. still getting used to the rear buttons, but i 100% agree it feels like a quality built controller. the stick tension is definitely lighter and the controller is heavier. also I lost it at "condom style caps that slip over the tip"

[@elijnr]

Does it have the back grips?

[@randallk6812]

The Wolverine Ultimate is currently $225 in Canada and the V2 chroma has been discounted to $149

[@Red.exe7]

The back buttons have awful placement. I mainly use the top 2 buttons instead.

[@1fareast14]

I went through five, FIVE ultimates lookimg for low stick decentering. Then my final copy died. One of the copies had a bad rear paddle. The v2 may be more cheaply built, but it appears more consistent and has an excellent dpad

[@dr_lulz]

OG is THE GOAT. Best controller EVER. 6 customisable buttons is something people don’t understand… but THINK… being able to always move and look WHILST taking other actions like reloading or jumping and interacting, collecting etc NEVER BREAKS IMMERSION. This is MASSIVELY overlooked.

[@anticitizenjuan]

Really wish they just used the TE buttons instead of the redesigns. Absolutely terrible placement for rear buttons, I couldn’t stand it and ended up returning my Chroma

[@D1S0-]

Te buttons did not feel good, ended up modifying the back buttons to extend out. The chroma back buttons took time to get used to but it’s definitely not bad placement (unless you have small hands).

[@Dodger_Dawg_]

Get longer fingers baby hands....

[@averageoldergamer3281]

I’ve had 2 wolverine ultimate controllers. Really liked them. Currently my second controller has developed the same fault as the first having problems with the audio jack. With both controllers the audio is intermittent coming through the right side of the headset. The problems came only 6 months down the road with both controllers! Razer support is not the easiest to communicate with. Shame. I liked the controller a lot but I’ll be moving to the elite version 2 now.

[@Myvera]

Same BUT I got as Astro Mixamp and it no longer matters lol

[@samuraijose817]

No gyro no point

[@SilkywoodsRL]

Here the Ultimate V2 is sold for €100,- and the old Ultimate for €175,- The retailers already know😂

[@DaveThompsonfairlife4all]

You should warn people about their aftersales support. It's quite bad, and many people such as myself prefer to avoid companies that happily frustrate their customers. I had an enquiry, so I contact them with a simple question. 8 emails and 4 days later I am still waiting for the information I was after. Wow. If anyone buys a Razer product, make sure to get 3rd party warranty and avoid dealing with them direct. Life is too short for that nonsense.

[@Ezorus]

Should have just put the Wolverine Tournament edition buttons on the back.. would have brought it straight away

[@MrRunsWthSizors]

I just wish they came out with a shorter cable for us people who game at a desk!

[@Extermin8ed]

Spot on. The v2 chroma was pretty much unusable to me cause of the ergonomics. The ultimate has the same weird rear button design but the shape of the controller allows easier access to the buttons without distorting your fingers as much. What we really need is a v3 with updated rear button placement and mechanical switches, a carrying case and the media module from the ultimate. I’d gladly pay $200.

[@quidaccidit1107]

The V2 is definitely way less comfortable, but the ultimate is very hard to aim diagonally. It's almost like there's some blocker that only wants you to aim horizontally or vertically.

[@bonanzabrandon6877]

I've seen in reviews that the analog sticks on razer gamepads don't have as much range of motion as other controllers.

[@jasonboy9676]

​@@bonanzabrandon6877. The razer have fluid analog sticks like the Xbox one S but they are magnetic.

[@Javggoat]

@@jasonboy9676is it worth it ?

[@jasonboy9676]

@@Javggoat . Yes, it's a great controller

[@xixpink]

Razer Wolverine Ultimate has a stick drift kit as well

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

Dang combining this with that KZbinrs wacky FPS gamepad prototype XD

[@_k808x__6]

I had the Wolverine ultimate loved it , it had terrible stick drift after some years of use “ upgraded “ to the v2 chroma but honestly I feel the Wolverine ultimate is better feels more fit to my hands vs chroma v2 seems smaller

[@bonanzabrandon6877]

Thinking about getting an Ultimate, mainly because of the fancy clicky buttons, very disappointed to see that the mechanical switches aren't on the dpad, unlike the newer models.

[@elijnr]

Don’t get the v2 chroma. It’s uncomfortable as helk

[@Extermin8ed]

@@elijnr It really is. The ultimate isn’t as bad though believe it or not.

[@reifk8807]

I just bought a chroma and waiting for shipping. I had a raijyu tournament edition for my PS4, still holding strong after 4 years of heavy use. I love Razer's shell shape over original controllers, it feels like right stick is closer to the edge of the controller, and it helps in shooting games. also because of it's shape, you won't feel your wrist hurting as much. my only complain is that it's rubber wears too fast, I lost almost all rubber on my sticks, and those on the grips peels off easily, hopefully V2 chroma won't have the same problem 🤞

[@ObviousRises]

My Power A Spectra had its right trigger break after 4 months of use. Been wanting a replacement and am really struggling picking something. You convinced me to get the Ultimate.

[@FF-oe6rl]

Did you buy it? Is it worth it for FPS?

[@YORKSHIREMAN86]

If I could find the ultimate for £90 I’d buy a replacement spare for my existing one today, but in the UK they’re similar price to the chroma.

[@brzozx7651]

Did you buy any of these controller ?

[@YORKSHIREMAN86]

@@brzozx7651 no bought an Elite series 2 instead

[@brzozx7651]

@@YORKSHIREMAN86 do you have any stick drift on elite2?

[@YORKSHIREMAN86]

@@brzozx7651 no, out the box on Warzone I had to set my deadzone to 6 on my Wolverine Ultimate. On my Elite it’s on 2, so virtually none.

[@brzozx7651]

@@YORKSHIREMAN86 where did you buy elite 2 in uk from which store ?

[@RealziesCuts]

You look younger without the beard 💫 Thanks for more help picking the best Xbox controllers

[@lordadz1615]

I wish they added hall effect sensors to these things. If they did that i would defo buy.....

[@giladT1000]

You killed me with the large hands bit, so funny!!! picture of jay, that's rich!

[@SloRush]

I have about 4 years in total with these controllers combined and I agree that for the most part the Wolverine Tournament is superior. It so happened to be that my thumbsticks on my Wolverine V2 Chroma have gotten stick drift which has never happened to the 2 Wolverine Tournament controllers which I've had both for over a year and a half. I've only had the Chroma V2 for exactly a year. I think I'm going to go with a T4 Kaleid for my next controller for the extra durability and cheaper cost.

[@user-funnymadp]

found out this channel because my v2 chroma has a squeeze sound on the abxy front plate when pushed down, buy the flydigi apex 4😂

[@carmiliongr]

Dude you have way too many controllers. I love it

[@Pepperoni290]

Im 6"1 i have biggish hands and v2 chroma grip is too small my hands barely fit on it, also left stick is further left than a regular controller so its too close to my hand

[@ΙΩΑΝΝΗΣΓΟΥΖΟΥΑΣΗΣ]

Ok there is no mechanical feel in the microsoft elite 2 series gamepad but bear this i mind: the ms elite core 2 series and the elite 2 black complete bundle, both have a unique feature no onther gamepad providers considered to install: the, adhustable thimbsticks stiffness. The 3 stages to adjust the thumsticks stiffness makes it almost impossible to raise stick drift even after thousands of gaming hours. The wolverine is technicaly better with much more higher quality materials, but the ergonomical functionality of the stiffer thumpsticks to stabilise all your movements and aiming plus heavy build up of elite 2 which weighs up to 150gramm heavier than chroma, makes the elite core 2 beyond comparison.

[@Sunset309]

This really helped me in FPS games

[@USMC-es4yy]

I had both .I use a wireless headset so I returned the ultimate..love the chroma!! As far as performance,I couldn't tell a difference..the mechanical buttons are a plus for sure!! I will say I like my rig revolution X better than both..all choices are better than the Xbox elite...I've seen cheap 20 dollar controllers last longer than that dung heap!

[@qibcentricsplayground2043]

i just bought it yesterday when it was like about 60USD for the Wolverine Ultimate. Totally not justfied the price diff when I can buy like almost 3 of them for the price of 1 v2

[@Ice-Sik-ill]

How is it holding up? Does it have stick drift? I've read on reddit they dropped the price down on amazon because of it.

[@Hulkachan]

@@Ice-Sik-ill 2 years later no stick drift and i didn't baby it.

[@Ice-Sik-ill]

@@Hulkachan I ended buying one shortly after and it’s the best controller I’ve owned. Loving how I can switch profiles on the fly and so many extra buttons.

[@Hulkachan]

@@Ice-Sik-ill I have a raiju mobile too, sadly i didn't get to buy the wolverine TE.

[@roshunepp]

Why does no one do horizontal rear buttons. Vertical buttons are terrible!

[@shadowcodestv]

This video is gonna help me save money and I’ll be buying one now thanks 🙏

[@gex581990]

Yeah but the Chroma’s button switches are a huge upgrade to the Ultimate and outshines anything that made the Ultimate better

[@Isaiasdiaz10]

What are those 3rd party condom like caps for the thumbsticks?

[@djsd007]

Love your reviews but this one is a tad weird imo. You say the old one is better but then give the win to the new one in almost every important functional aspect of a controller. Most of the complaints are about included accessories...

[@R0B0TUK]

I cant decide between the scuf instinct pro or the razer ultimate for halo

[@xDaWorsT13]

What is the input delay on the v2 chroma?

[@chrisupreme8708]

Ive had 3 wolverine ultimates and the M3 button on the back always gets loose and then eventually breaks off, I was wondering if the chroma v2s back paddles feel sturdier?

[@LIVE_BHOP]

Same thing happens to the v2....

[@chrisupreme8708]

@@LIVE_BHOP damn no way... thought they wouldve finally fixed that

[@asherq8646]

bro right before I read your comment I was looking at mine and noticed my m3 button felt much looser than the others.... god damn it@@chrisupreme8708

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

My only issue with the original wolverine ultimate is the dpad. I don't like how either of the options feel, it's as if it requires too much force to push and it's not easy and clicky the way the series X default controller feels. But I like everything else a lot with the wolverine.

[@Aguafy]

Facts v2 is terrible tbh and I play at a very high level

[@javonholman8629]

very in depth in way the ultimate is better than the chroma, i had a roommate who had both and let me borrow the ultimate for a few months since i preferred the feeling more since i play xbox and they play pc so shape didn’t matter to them but i just couldn’t describe why i liked the ultimate so much more but now i can 😎🤣

[@javonholman8629]

once they moved out, i bought myself the ultimate controller off of amazon for a total of $72 including tax and shipping (subtotal $65) and gotta say best controller i’ve ever used and who cares about a wired controller when you have infinite battery life it’s awesome i used to prefer wireless but that was because i just wasn’t looking in the right areas

[@Mark-mu4pj]

Cheers for the video.

[@jamesthird3606]

i love my ultimate but iv had two but i find after 4-5 months the abxy buttons get sticky and stiff wich is a shame cuase thats my favourite part about the controller

[@jairdabrini]

I have the Razer Wolverine Ultimate but it's got stick drift & the RB doesn't register all the time or occasionally register double presses which messet up timed reloads in Gears 5. So I got the Razer Wolverine V2 which is unplayable in both Gears 5 and Halo Infinite. Why, because it's such a slow controller for fast online games - the A, B, X, Y require much effort to press and buttonmashing is really, really slow. It just feel less precise, slow and impossible to play good with. The Wolverine V2 is a crap controller for competitive online gaming, but honestly works fine for offline gaming. I've been playing Assasin Creed Origins and Chained Echoes w.o any problems.. but can't play for shit online against others in Gears 5 or Halo Infinite. So avoid the Wolverine V2 &/ Corona if you (gonna) play online games mostly.

[@joandarc441]

we can trust them

[@ellguaposavage1061]

Love the review I got ah Xbox Elite series 2 controller about 2 months ago but the stick drift is horrible so looking for ah new controller. The v2 chroma looks amazing

[@pspcow]

Not sure if you bought a controller yet, but I don't regret it one bit. If you like bigger controllers, and find the regular xbox controller too small, the razer is perfect.

[@Zetrix1v]

@@pspcow do you use the ultimate or the chroma imma gonna buy a razer controller but dont know which one

[@pspcow]

@@Zetrix1v I have the regular v2, it has two extra buttons on the top, but no paddles on the back. If you need paddles, get the chroma v2. Don't get the ultimate, it's outdated.

[@Zetrix1v]

@@pspcow oh ight bet thanks dude

[@Javggoat]

@@pspcowdoes it stick drift ?

[@SirrafuS]

Which one you will recommend for mortal kombat 11?

[@UGMAN_]

When paired with a wired headphone/ headset do you get feed back from the ultimate audio block? I have heard this a couple of times

[@Shuttterbugg]

I just bought 2 of these 35 a peace!! Brand new!! Amazon has sone hidden gems Just gotta look!!! Soo happpy!!!

[@FF-oe6rl]

35 or 85?

[@Sean-hj7nw]

so i just got my wolverine ultimate today its nice but i have to return it because the deadzones are terrible its unusable because of the stick drift guess that's because its old stock or something that's what happens 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@FF-oe6rl]

I knew it on amazon it’s $85, like no way! Of course it’s old stock and they will have problems out of the box

[@viciousbros]

The wolverine ultimate works in the series s or x?

[@JT1031]

Any Xbox One controller will work on the Series X | S. (Any Xbox Series X | S controller will work on Xbox One, with updates of course.)

[@robbiem4041]

Can you disable the right stick on the ultimate? At times i press the right stick down by accident and want to disable it for fps games

[@L3GIT91]

What is the stock pulling rate of this controller and does it respond to overclocking well?

[@jacenchrisbaker]

Grabbed the Wolverine V2 based on your review, mostly to get used to the feel of the Chroma (as I never could get a feel for the buttons). When the clicky M1 bumper went out this week, I went ahead and grabbed the Ultimate because everyone says it's the bees knees (and it DOES feel more like a Xbone/Series controller), but so far, the first two Amazon has sent have some severe stick drift out of the box. Going to try ONE MORE TIME before I give up and cry myself to sleep over the price of a Scuf, because otherwise, this controller is gas.

[@Dre-ib6si]

Update? I as well was gone get one from Amazon.

[@slowchop]

someone in a reddit post mentioned the wolverine ultimate actually uses mechanical switches on the back paddles as well. can you confirm? i’m either about to pick this or the victrix pro up. both have the fastest input latency

[@jangofett3147]

I got the wolverine ultimate recently and can confirm the back buttons do not but the extra bumpers on top do have the clicky sounds but im don't know how I feel about the rear bumpers since my hand is messed up and it feels awkward to rest my fingers on them its a personal problem for me but if you have small hands this controller might not be for you if you haven't bought it yet

[@jasonboy9676]

The razor have great back paddles and they are comfortable, but I do not use them. They are geared towards COD and PUBG players

[@Javggoat]

@@jasonboy9676does it stick drift ?? & does the controller worth it ?

[@jasonboy9676]

@@Javggoat. I had the controller for 2 months and it does not stick drift so far and the trigger stoppers are great. I'll recommend it.

[@Javggoat]

@@jasonboy9676 is it the v2 chrome u using ?

[@Bulletstopper63]

Razer wolverine ultimate, thumbstick rubber has worn smooth and slippery. I don't want to extend my sticks. Am I screwed? Or is there somewhere to get spares? Razer don't support their own product. Great controller made useless by worn thumbsticks.

[@RelaxSimmer]

I disagree that V2 Chroma has "Better" face buttons, they're terrible, the only problem I have with that shitty controller, the facebuttons require so much force that it's painful to use them for longer periods of time. Btw did you test the deadzone tightness of razer wolverine controller? (not the chroma)

[@ta3soul22]

Glo up was real no homo 😂

[@rebel8215]

Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT buy this controller. I bought this controller a few years back and it's been terrible. When it arrived it immediately had stick drift on the right stick. I was able to send it back and get a new one, but the new one arrived with stick drift on BOTH sticks, and they would not send me another replacement. Within a year, the A and X buttons stopped working. All of the paint for the buttons are now worn off. Both bumpers essentially spam their inputs a few times, so pressing RB or LB once presses it multiple times. My RB has officially stopped working entirely. These controllers are pieces of shit and are not worth the money.

[@WooTxng]

Review the wolverine v3 pro plz!!!

[@hayvanejones8791]

Fucking hell why every roller is so big 🤢 I know people who got really big hands and they love the ds4 pad I have small hands and the most comfy roller is the series x roller.

[@Powerfulpackage]

I love my original wolverine

[@lonelywolfcnc2126]

You got that right the new chroma v2 whatever controller is way to big and heavy ..it says in the box its 10ms input delay but that's the same as the ultimate. THE ULTIMATE FEELS MORE RESPONSIVE OVERALL .better .

[@Frosty_V0]

Cuz u didn’t update firmware

[@RedLeo-pf9yo]

Thanks sweetheart

[@fullfazediegobello2945]

160!? I got my wolverine for 15$ 🌚😹

[@SevenDeMagnus]

Cool, as much as possible, I love supporting Razer (if the product is equal or better for the same price) as much as possible because we owe almost everything to Razer, the father of gaming peripherals that made us be better gamers which is a huge constribution from Razer. God bless, Revelation 21:4

[@AiLife115]

I had to force returned v2 Chrome after few days, it's very big disappointment, the ergonomic, grip material, the trigger design, the rubber trigger missing, abxy button x2.5 time harder than the ultimate version (too bad for long time playing I prefer plastic button like DS controller than this mechanical button)... after wolverine ultimate all of them are trash, not worth to "pro"

[@samuraijose817]

Y'all want help? Use gyro!

[@callumnicholson668]

what kontrol freeks will work

[@julienchene7411]

i would like to know aswell..

[@TheActiontkr]

I have both, the ultimate is hands down better. Pro vs toy, no comparison.

[@nonplusultra18]

Why? I just bought them both and I don't see such a difference, only thing I find worse in the new one other than shape are the triggers, I can barely notice the difference when using the trigger stoppers, and they have no rumble but I don't even use that. Ultimate feels better in hand because of the shape but it is made of similar plastic, it doesn't work on Android (the V2 chroma does), and the cable is bad on both, the V2 chroma's USB C inlet doesn't have something to stop the cable from moving so you have to be very careful or it will eventually fail, and the ultimate doesn't fit regular micro USB cables so you have to buy expensive ones with the correct shape when the included cable dies. They both have very heavy cons in my opinion. Edit: Oh, and the face buttons are quite harder to press in the V2 chroma, I guess that could be another negative if you have to press a button very fast.

[@madnessbutcher]

Vcuda forever...

[@samuraijose817]

Gyro > everything else.

[@samuraijose817]

All that crap doesn't matter if it doesn't have gyroscope 🤣

[@BoricuaBoy88]

(Copied comment from your other video) The Wolverine Ultimate and Tournament Editions both had breakaway cables. The V2 Chroma doesn't. Big drawback in my book.