Industry, Nationalization and Central Planning - Cities: Skylines - Altengrad 60

[@hodgepodge51]

Gotta be my fav skylines series

[@PwrTorch]

Stumbled upon your channel and binged the whole series during the last three days and I'm just speechless. Lessons in urban planning, lessons in history and the most stunningly beautiful city building and design I've ever seen. 68K subs is criminally underrated, you should have at least 680K. Hats off, seriously.

[@notead]

@@Styrofo4m WTF kind of comment is that

[@ButzPunk]

@@Styrofo4m It's strange to me that you feel this way. For me, these videos are one of my favourite ways to unwind. I find the commentary very soothing, while the amazing builds he shows off get me super excited to play the game myself!

[@pearlorions]

Algorithm really worked wonders on this one huh XD I also found out about Altengrad through this episode, no regrets 10/10 series.

[@RobertDoornbosF1]

Oooh how I've missed this series

[@ulisseviezzoli7939]

the fact that it is getting easier to mess with custom networks and surfaces thanks to the mods makes me wanna try a huge project like yours keep it up man, i really love your series!!

[@squawkthepenguin9492]

This build really encapsulates the concept of telling a story with a Cities Skylines build. It's just pulled off so well... I really love what you've done with this series.

[@russian_hitman]

Смотря видео по градостроительному симулятору, я прослушал лекцию по коллективизации в странах Варшавского договора. Ваши видео - это то, что я называю качественным контентом. Поражает то внимание к деталям, с которым вы строите города.

[@somevincentsauce]

It was just yesterday that I finished binging all the previous 59 episodes of Altengrad. The series has drawn me and taught me so much more about Central European architecture, (some) politics, and history. I cannot imagine myself trying to detail this city; I would go nuts. But when I opened up the video, and that familiar piano theme ringing in my ears, I think to myself: "Damn."

[@Yoarashi]

This is overwhelming in the best way. The history lesson is interesting and there's so much going on on-screen with the building. I find myself switching focus between them and then skipping backwards to catch up on the other. Very compelling vid

[@terraincognitaband7273]

OHH BOIII another Altengrad episode!

[@Luka-cm8xl]

Joined the channel for cool city building, stayed for actually good and educative lessons in the background of city making! Seriously you could have only audio of this play or only video of this play and both of them would still be amazing products.

Hands down all time favorite CS series!

[@matthewshields1734]

Love this series, it’s my favourite content on KZbin. It’s always educational and beautiful.

[@Meister_Warpy]

Oh my god finally! It felt like eternity. :o I love how it looks more and more like my home city. I wish there was more people doing things like you. Keep up the good work!

[@kristss8534]

Out of the so so many skylines series I've seen, this has got to be the best one. Creative, unique, and fascinating

[@civishamburgum1234]

Wow. This complex is HUGE.

[@molybdane7240]

Your description of planned economy and nationalisation is spot on. Nicely done!

[@goncalo1410]

I always get a big smile in my face when i see a new video of yours in my notifications, keep up with the good work :D

[@DerFeedsan]

your videos are just so calming after a hectical day, the intro music and your smooth talking about what youre building here and there also a bit of historical background love it

[@yayyo3226]

Welcome back!! Was looking forward to this mate

[@TobbySkylines]

Hey Akruas, I love the historical backstories for this series.

[@TheToes2036]

I don't play cities skylines much or watch other videos, but something about this series has hooked me.

[@PauxloE]

20:09 It looks like for leaving the factory ground with a car, you'll have to get out of your car, put the car into the pocket, walk 2 meters, get the car out of the pocket again, get into the car, start driving. Is there a piece of road which doesn't allow cars in this direction?

[@georgeowen2553]

I assumed they were clocking out with security or something

[@momentogabe]

Will you add trolley buses? That would make the city a lot more realistic. Especially in the newer areas without trams.

[@jan-lukas]

Actually trolley busses were used so widely, because electricity could be produced locally, while normal busses need diesel that had to be imported

[@maxx1000]

Love the evolution of the city through the Century... Great job!

[@ziegenlord5395]

Considering that you had to put the custom cobblestone underneath the tracks as a simple surface and fit it everywhere its astonishing how far cs mods have come

[@Akruas]

It was crazy back then, so much easier now.

[@CMDP-gq8fn]

What an episode!!! One of the top series to watch right now.. keep it up!!

[@j.koppany]

Amazing video, i very much love this series!

[@antf7156]

Can't wait for Asturis :)

[@hopin8krzys]

I love this series. Recent episodes really make me wanna play WRSR, but I dont want to sink hundreds of hours yet again...

[@janbajcfuna]

incredible. love the style of altengrad and the series!

[@PlayThatVlog]

These are great videos to relax too! I wish they were a little longer though.. so creative. 🥰

[@daniellxnder]

I love how you're very honest about history! It's what happened and good or bad things came out of it so you just lay it bare for us to learn from it! Also big yes to this huge locomotive works!

[@lolman533]

thoughts on Czech Kralovec? :D

[@Akruas]

Can't wait for my summer vacation there.

[@egg_musubi]

This video was definitely worth the wait :) Love Altengrad, cheers from California

[@PauxloE]

Thanks for the video. Just one note: The text is often a few minutes after when the video is showing what is explained - this makes it a bit difficult to relate what is currently being explained to it actually happening. I don't have a good solution for this, though. The history lesson at the start is certainly good to have the context of why things are being built this way. Maybe something else could be shown during this time (like some photos you used for inspiration? Not sure about the copyright problem.), so then during the build you can narrate what is being built at the time?

[@ai97Nord]

Hoorayy Altenrgad Back.. No Wonder, why USSR economy went decline During Brezhnav Era due Corruption among Officers and Politburo..

[@adamvalt6609]

Definitelly make the office building taller! There needs to be some dominant building

[@pederrast287]

Tack!

[@Akruas]

Thank you!

[@NachosMachos]

hey man! we missed you

[@fabian7977]

Are you gonna introduce trolleybuses?

[@jemsyago7163]

I think they've said multiple times in other videos that they won't.

[@davidwhite3337]

Wow that is awesome akuras

[@VirtualComplication]

i love this series so much. I am excited which way it will continue. what would be interesting is an implied transit route to a western country such as the one existed in the GDR from Wedt Germany to Berlin.

[@jzeltman]

great work as always

[@jacobosc5849]

It's time to build a stadium

[@lagritsalammas]

Still my favourite CS city and video creator after all these years.

[@МихаилИцков-х9к]

You made awesome video, like usually. It's both cool Cities:Skylines gameplay video and also interesting history lecture about socialism history of Central Europe. I just fell in love with your content. Ты супер крутой чел

[@honzaslehovr7763]

Finally some Altengrad :3 So much better than Asturis

[@doublea06]

You're back! We're been waiting for weeks.

[@yanislee1085]

Was Rockdale's map and this map anywhere similar?

[@gojo4808]

I'VE MISSED YOU

[@maartenvaness]

Bald and Bankrupt would appreciate that mosaic

[@aturchomicz821]

So this is like a Liberal Non Marxist alternative to Franklin by donoteat? Uh huh

[@globul3410]

yeah plenty of what Akruas was saying was straight up lies

[@tacooldenhof2965]

Nice video, good for education purpose

[@happy_frog]

Yey finally! Im honestly very sad that there is only 1 altengrad video in a month. You only moved forward 30 years ingame in 3 real years. That means its another 6 years to get to the modern times ingame. I mean if thats what you want to do, do this series for a decade, its just strange that Im in midschool right now and I will finishing university once you get in the 2000s. Dont you think thats a bit too much?

[@Akruas]

I'm sorry I'm not working on videos 24/7.

[@happy_frog]

@@Akruas Im sorry I didnt mean it that way, my wording is not the best.. I love this series and just thinking about that it will take that long is kinda feels bad. I hope it wont be finished halfway done. I know that you love making these, and thank you for it, I think you are the best cities skylines content creator.

[@petjuh1985]

Welcome back 😍😍 a new episode 🎉

[@omarramox40]

we miss u❤️

[@Pan_Schaboszczak]

Finally back! Can't wait for 1960's. Will you make a video like "ww2 story" but about maybe some major political protests (like 1970 in Gdynia), uprising (i.e. Hungary or Poznań 1956) or maybe invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968? They were important events in history of eastern block. Also, video like that would be super cool to see (not cool to be the protester, tho)

[@Akruas]

Probably not, it's not really relevant to the city development, unless the city got somehow destroyed in the process, but I don't want that.

[@Pan_Schaboszczak]

@@Akruas Thanks for answer! When you described it like that, it makes sense - It would stick more if you somehow made entire country, not city. Still thanks for the video!

[@romanrat5613]

This is the greatest C:S series of all time

[@iak_1065]

Please don’t late for us❤😢

[@maartenvaness]

Akruas is the G.O.A.T.

[@dragontrainlp4503]

it looks like cities in motion 1

[@kjellazou6935]

where is the city ? which country?

[@Ponyalaa]

Just an imaginary country of it's own, like an not so big city-state, like Luxembourg

[@theaver6ge]

He’s back🥶🥶🥶

[@konrad4180]

are there new tram model riding on the tram lines?

[@Akruas]

There have been new trams since the first 50s episode.

[@yanislee1085]

Will there ever be a time when trams are no longer relevant to public transport?

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

Largely depends on where you are in the world, but there's also other factors including transportation policies; There will probably always be a tram in some form, though future ones could use magnetic technology.

[@ryanthes9133]

Let's go!!! New video

[@ED9306]

Best CS series ever

[@xessent1125]

Finally! It been so long

[@davidmihailovski5264]

Heck yeah!!! I cannot believe Im this early! I absolutely love this series!

[@likematters5568]

Yay!

[@BlazingImp77151]

I'm sad cause youtube hid this video from me for like a week. i got the latest asturis one right away, but had to go looking for this one.

[@Akruas]

Sadly happens after I break the schedule, algorithm doesn't like that.

[@saschab.5154]

You are a wizard!

[@luceas6834]

comment for algorythem

[@Yaratoma]

Yhis is so gorgeous!

[@skagenrora1236]

It would be cool to see some dachas or summer houses for the working class. Since the state run farms were quite unproductive a lot of regular people grew their own food in these places. Also a big bazar for the people to sell their homemade vegetables and foods close for the city would be realistic.

[@PizazN]

nice!

[@ander4163]

10/10

[@risensei]

Dinesh...?

[@orange630]

I hope this comment does not come off as angry, I just wish to dispell propganda proudly said in this video as facts. I really like your videos and I absolutely love your C:S builds, and most of them are very educational, especially ones on civil engineering like a few of your last Altengrad vids. I write this because I cannot stand my favourite Cities: Skylines youtuber spreading propaganda. Please research the topics, especially if they carry significant political weight. I am very disappointed this time because your episode on soviet urbanism was so well made and well balanced. From each according to their ability, to each according to their want. In case of communism: to each according to their need. The myth of the polish PRL saying: "Czy się stoi czy się leży 2000 się należy" (eng.: "If you're standing or you're laying, 2000 is what you get") is still prominent here. I do not like how you "play both sides" of the narrative (which basically means pandering to modern capitalist propaganda) even though all economic statistical evidence is against the idea that communist/socialist economy have had less worker motivation/morale. It is only a myth. If you look at actual statistics the only nation with actual significant gains from capitalism after the fall of the soviet union is Poland. Ukraine, Russia, Kazachstan, etc. have yet to bounce back to their socialist days. Industries were always motivated via bonuses given out to them on the basis of overcoming set production quotas. This meant that if you produced 1000 tonnes of steel instead of projected 800 you would get a huge boost to your industry. Simple. Worker morale was high because they were paide in lieu of the maxim I wrote "From each according to their ability", this means if you work what you can, you are going to get proper pay for your ability and all your work will be rewarded. This idea of being paid a static wage for a skilled job is a capitalist one: see modern working conditions and wages stagnating in recent times. This is literally the basics of socialism - industry owned by all the workers, therefore them being paid equally. And people are NOT NATURALLY LAZY, people are natrually motivated, this is yet another capitalist myth. Another myth I hear in your video is the idea of stunted growth and progress. This is obviously a lie if you know anything about the space race. I suppose you do. (Same goes for advanced home and industrial computing produced in the Soviet Union. Evident by the amount of people who had access to home computers, and the fact that the soviets built many nuclear reactors which require very advanced components and computers to function properly. Did you know that the first synth music was produced in the USSR?) Monopolies are only a problem when they are allowed to decide the prices and wages like right now in todays world. In an economy that decides them strictly from the top, the monopoly cannot make life worse for those living under it and massively profit off of it. This means that the concept of the monopoly doesn't really carry over into a socialist or communist state. Since the monopoly cannot gain anything from the monopoly, it is just a large firm. 5 year plans of the soviet union were great successes making nations such as post WW2 Poland industrialise quickly, making people live actual lives in with flowing water and electricity. Which prior to that, especially in Poland's case was a rarity only reserved for the higher classes, since Poland, up until then was just a poor, war-ravaged, farming based economy. The idea that central planning cannot react to crisises is just another myth you see yourself repeating here. See the most prominent example of WW2 (some would say one of the greater crisises of the world and the subsquent economic crisis which curiously had very low impact in the USSR) was won in large part by the soviets. I obviously do not want to come off as a fool, soviet tanks were flawed, their production not amazingly thought through (see: T34s hulls fracturing on shell impact, and crews being baked alive due to low amounts of space), etc., but it was still enough to do its job. And to return to the point of economic criseses, those can only occur in an unstable market economy OR through large external meddling (huge sanctions imposed on the USSR by Capitalist countries, despite which it still succeeded): see: 1998 Russian crisis caused by the rapid de-communisation in Russia after the fall of the USSR, 2001 post 9/11 economic crisis, 2008, and the current economic ciris, etc. (one could go on very long about the multitude of capitalist economic crisises). Therefore in an economy non-reliant on an unstable market it is impossible to have a market crash - therefore it is resistant to economic crisis. The USSR, as I mentioned had a problem of being alone against the world, therefore capitalist countries tried to stunt its growth and make it as difficult as possible, but yet economic statistics still show huge growth and major advances in quality of life during its time. You are throwing words out into the wind without actually checking for anything or understanding it, it seems truly nobody is immune to propaganda. Adding to that people only experienced major goods shortages during WW2 (obviously) and during the fall of the USSR (obviously). Capitalist economies waste resources, not socialist ones. See: current waste of resources in todays world under capitalism and how big of a deal it is due to enviromental effect. The socialist order of a centrally planned economy strictly makes it very difficult for waste of resources to occur. Resources may be misplaced slightly, but even they they are not going to be wasted, because the plan can be rearranged based on the waste's data to limit it. Unlike now, where cars will be produced ad infinitum and pushed out in ads so people buy more of those cars, rather than other cars produced ad infinitum. Only good point you make is about the difficulty of gathering good information in time. However this was solved by having a multitude of local level evalutators and planners in every spot of the soviet union that contributed to the huge, complex and efficient central planning commitee. Despite this, the central planning still posed a difficulty to the union since this was before the age of computation. Nowadays it would be singnificantly easier, but that's besides the point. EDIT: I WILL NOT ENGAGE IN POLITICAL DISCUSSION BECAUSE THESE ARE ECONOMICAL FACTS BASED ON ECONOMICAL STATISTICS. www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1929/05/11.htm www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1936/12/05.htm www.rbth.com/lifestyle/328980-this-is-how-ussr-sold-cars www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/ Economic statistics of post war era european nations available to view on many websites such as: Our world in data and similar

[@Akruas]

Sorry I didn't do the "correct" research from sites like marxists.org lol

[@orange630]

@@Akruas man, just read, (they say to never meet your heroes, I know why lol) dismissing info on the basis of a name of a website is so dumb. You didn't do the "Correct" research because you didn't do any at all.

[@orange630]

Besides, there are plenty of books about the Soviet economy, and all of them look at the same data and state the same thing

[@globul3410]

@@Akruas so did you do any research?

[@Akruas]

​@@globul3410 I didn't look much into the theory of socialist industry, that's true. Also I didn't do research about the Soviet Union, Romania or Yugoslavia because that's not where the series is from. I focused on the real life, interviews with people who experienced nationalization and collectivization and people who worked in industry and experienced the rigid planning of the time. Most sources were Czech or Slovak, because I can easily search it and understand, followed by searching information if that's also how it was in East Germany, Poland and Hungary (online, admittedly through Wiki since I don't speak the languages but then other sites after learning the keywords or dates). Great sources are university theses that already put together the important information and point to additional book sources. Nationalization of small businesses is well documented through interviews, like the one I mentioned from East Germany. Same with collectivization. I also watched documentaries, like from the series "Industrie" and "historie.cs", the latter being a sort of "podcast" format with historians. Great sources are old news clips, various programmes and smaller documentaries from the cinema news and later TV, even old movies inadvertently show certain realities. I prefer to not search sources for local things written in English, but rather focus on the inside views, as I already saw some "western/outside" authors mix up some basic facts. Although for the other countries I sometimes don't have a choice. Yes, I made a mistake of not putting the sources at least in the video description and strictly writing them down after using their information, I'll try to do that from now on. To summarize the sources, not necessarily all used for this video: Archive of the Czechoslovak Television (available on the Czech TV site, or on KZbin - search Slovak programmes like "Noc v archive") Czechoslovak Weekly movie news from the 50's (probably wrong translation of Ceskoslovensky Filmovy Tydenik - also available on Czech TV site) historie.cs and Industrie programmes (Czech TV site), also some other documentaries are there Various theses and articles, for example "Nationalization processes in Czechoslovakia on the example of CKD", "Property loss of the czech families - nationalization and restitution of the real estates, qualitative research" "Nationalization and confiscation in 1945 - 1948" "Railway management between 1946-1953" "Theatre in the GDR and Czechoslovakia in the 1960s" "State versus Church - Church Policy of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia in Příbram" "The Central Committee of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia in the period of Antonín Novotný" "What to Do? Impact of the Nazi and the Soviet Control Models on the Post-War Restoration of the Future "Communist" Czechoslovakia" "Development of the Czechoslovak Economy in the 50th 20th century" "Czechoslovak economy during the first five-year plan" "Czech (Czechoslovak) Transformation Continuities of 20th century" Books "Stručné dějiny ekonomických reforem v Československu (České republice) 1945-1995" "Automobilismus a česká společnost" "Industrial Restructuring and Trade Reorientation in Eastern Europe" "Paneláci, parts 1 and 2" "Architektura 60. a 70. let 20. století v České republice" "Šedesátá léta v architektuře očima pamětníků" "Bowling for Communism: Urban Ingenuity at the End of East Germany " Laws like the Beneš Decrees and various nationalization laws from 1948. My own talks with older members of the family, who worked before 1989 in positions such as accounting, construction, electrician, teaching and in agriculture. Talks with coworkers and friends working and studying before 89. Various museums and exhibition visits, attending historical lectures.

[@dzieciakziomkakuzynacyborg]

finally!

[@americanboy1332]

Cities: workers and resources 😂

[@jcc5018]

There are videos I play in the background while i try to do other things. This is not one of those videos. Way too much going on to try to multitask. You've probably been asked this before, but do all your customized buildings function, or do you just hide actual buildings or invisible things inside? I think you need to be in charge of city skylines 2 architecture

[@askoldhorcicka7161]

Fakt frajer, gj

[@YuryPozdneev]

Glory to arztotzka!!!!!

[@brainlessteddy]

Gotta admit I was more excited for Asturis after the break but I actually really liked this Altengrad episode. Maybe I'll start watching it. Great work nonetheless!