The Survival Battle Royale That Failed To Survive - Darwin Project

[@gingar77]

This is exactly the kind of Battle Royale I’ve been wanting to play, and the first time I hear about it it’s already dead.

[@FallenQueenOfCrows]

same

[@littlelinkg4514]

I played it all the time like a few months ago and it's still active but your pretty much going to get in the same game with the same players. But most players are pretty chill.

[@hatchibyebye]

You would have liked spellbreak as well ;(

[@tjiani111]

F

[@timgrootbruinderink6279]

Bro same for me man

[@connorthemintyyeen9793]

So, some context for those who don´t really know by now. The game had a really big change when the 1.0 update came to the game, changing everything and creating the class system with the jetpack and drone and stuff. And the game really suffered because of that, mostly because the jetpack was the better option between the other two cause of the better mobility it gave to the one using it. But before all that, the game really was centered around customizing and playing the way you really wanted, and thanks to that players started to find new ways of playing (Tele-Axe, Trip Wire + Wooden Box) and you can even kill someone with a snow ball (And you can react to it by hitting it and trowing it back against the one who throw it. So yeah, the video really only speaks scratching only the top of all the game history and leaving lots of stuff that kinda were the real stuff that throw everything to the garbage at the end. The price thing was only a first problem, but eventually lots of other stuff were the thing that drive everyone to leave.

[@syarifht5929]

Damn really cool concept tho, should have been big if they really put oof that price tag and manage a great fanbase build ups

[@connorthemintyyeen9793]

@@syarifht5929 Yeah, the game kinda suffered because of the developers didn´t really know how to balance some stuff. Lots of people were asking for changes in the W + M1 strategy, or the Tele-Axe (It was removed with a patch wich wasn´t really a good idea at the end), and other stuff that also happen were: -No big changes in the game -The new electronics powers were useless (There was one that literally make you ultra small, it was useless AF because it make you do so little damage, like 50 per hit.) -The price tag that eventually was removed (This is when I started to play the game).

[@Liam-fd4uh]

Yeah, I played with 2 friends recently doing 1v1's with 1 person as the announcer. The game was still fun, but the class system just felt worse than the old system. I can understand why a change like that would kill the game.

[@_ShoePak]

the 1.0 update really killed my enjoyment of the game, the removal of a lot of customization really turned me off as that was the reason I loved the game so much.

[@owlcacone]

I second this, started playing because of a friend around the time it went free. The 1.0 "class system" rework absolutely ruined the game for me, have not played it since 1.0 released. I hope someone creates a pre-release private server when the game finally shutters it's doors

[@_JAKL]

Had so much fun in this game. Was a top OCE player. I think something that made the game fail is that how hard it is to beat a good player in this game. In games like Warzone, you can get the drop on a better player because of the low Time-to-kill. In a game like Darwin, even if you get a free hit on a better player, you're not going to survive the ensuing 1-4 minute fight. Ultimately, this frustrates new and low-skill players, ending up with the game not being able to grow at a sustainable pace.

[@essegotdatheat3310]

Same with naraka Im realizing. I love naraka but the fighting battle royale genre is immensely ruined by the skill gap…. It will forever keep these styles of games “niche” because they’re not as simple and casual to start playing :(

[@wowawewah]

What was your name? I was in OCE as well.

[@HUNT73R]

Bro wtf same I was insane I miss this game so much

[@Luigidagreen13]

Now this is a name I haven’t seen in a long time

[@uniworkhorse]

The Melee fight system in Darwin was unlike any other combat I've ever experienced in BR. It was so fun to fight against an evenly matched opponent, dodging, rolling, TPing, gliding, freezing, god I miss it so much

[@AlexEnsuar]

One of the few, if not the only BR that fully clicked with me the first time I played it. I loved this game so much and really wish it caught mainstream success because with an audience and large streamers playing this game could've been one of the best.

[@nelzelpher7158]

It wasn’t free on PlayStation so I never saw it. Sad, it looks good.

[@lo154lo3]

hey i played i have the streams on my yt its nice to see some other players who liked the game i didnt klnow it was popular

[@SpeedKing..]

@@nelzelpher7158 it was free on PS4 is saw it all the time

[@imnottoxic867]

@@nelzelpher7158 it was always free wym?

[@painfullyavarage4316]

I miss playing this game with my friends at 3 in the morning, snowball fights while the director tried to nuke us was so fun. It really is a shame the game died like it did

[@yummygopher1065]

I played this game in beta and it was genuinely so creative and fun. It’s a shame that it never made it big 😢

[@MoonChild8189]

I haven't thought about this game in such a long time, but I loved every match I played. Death definitely was frustrating but in hindsight I had fun and everything felt fair.

[@umplayful]

Ironic for a game called "The Darwin Project" to die in such a way.

[@MylesJacobSwie]

Finally someone covered this game. It was really one of the best experiences I've had with BR in terms of pure fun, and always wished it had gotten more attention.

[@imhaywire7717]

I seriously recommend still trying this game out there are some somewhat dedicated players and discords who would love to see this make a comeback. There’s just a steep learning curve with this game.

[@eli2572]

Once they took out na west servers it really died

[@BurningSkele99]

@@eli2572 you can still play on the other servers but the lag might be too much 😅

[@KonjikiNoYami666]

we are still playing

[@gedster]

Darwin Project is still, to this day, my favorite Battle Royale game of all time. I really wish indie multiplayer games succeeded more often, feels like all of the ones I fall in love with end up getting shut down soon after. Darwin Project, Gigantic, they all fall to other titles for reasons that are sometimes just out of the control of the devs. Now granted, I didn't even know the game had a price until I watched this video, but I never paid for it, and it seemed like it was relatively active when I was playing. Ah well. You really do hate to see it.

[@KC_50]

Just play Apex which is infinitely better… best BR out

[@gedster]

@@KC_50 Homie I have 800+ hours in Apex, that game is in one of the worst states it has ever been, broken legends and garbage maps in rotation for the majority of the time, and more audio issues than players in a lobby. I hope Apex can turn it around because at it's peak I adore it, but as it stands I really do not enjoy Apex.

[@sk-xg7re]

me too it was free though, I got it from 2018

[@Davenzoid]

As someone who loathed the br genre, this game in its beta days were amazing. Sure, the gane director xould take favorites and do their best to guarantee a one sided win, but the combat's back and forth with its mobility, dodging, tp, parrying, whacking arrows out of the air, etc, felt so unique and there was always counterplay against better geared players. One of the saddest fates of a multiplayer game.

[@abima9159]

imo this was the best battle royale that really got me into competitive

[@superninjaboyx]

The problem with prioritising skill is that most players aren’t very good and will get frustrated, quit the game if they keep getting stomped.

[@JaxDagger]

8:30 Darwin actually went came out to early access in March 2018 to the public and went free to play in April 2018 for PC around the time they held the big streamer invitational with shroud and forsen and a few others, which is what the huge spike in activity was, it did take until july 2018 though for it to go free to play on xbox though, they seemed to realise pretty quickly charging for the game was a no go. Video is put together well though and it definitely covers some of the issues the overall concept had, I put 4k hours into the game and casted alot of their tournaments, but admittedly a good half of that time was during a rough period of low activity that ran into community based tournaments and alike to keep people interested and alot of scrims, but release was when it became impossible to find a game, some regions like sydney and US west never truly thrived either which was a shame so west players eventually found themselves forced onto east to play. Many bigger streamers that enjoyed it wanted to wait out full release but with activity dipping they made some big changes that put many off when they did finally return to see how it turned out and many just didn't even know it fully released in januar 2020 until it ws too late as development shut down only 3 months later in may just after lockdowns started where the company is Also the 10 player vs 100 player thing too, as much as darwin games where supposed to be fast paced over quickly they sometimes ran into 30mins plus, tournaments especially many would wait out sudden death to a sometimes 10 man fight, people running away and then the chaser getting vultured was common with the radar system, alot of small things that unfortunately was the undoing of the general concept, quick smaller games. But the chat interactions and voting and betting system they had was great for streaming I have to admit, I'm still waiting too see another game that truly manages to pull out as much interaction for viewers aswell as the players as darwin managed, seeing people hyped in tournaments that 5k people bet darwin currency on them from various peoples streams watching them gave some rounds alot of energy and entertainment. Hopefully some day another game manages the same or darwin gets the overhaul it deserved.

[@TabzBB]

I absolutely loved this game and thought an actual competitive scene would have been really interesting. I'm my opinion having the chat and viewers fully being able to influence the game was fun but not only that in a competitive setting it would mean players would not only to have been good in game but, outside too, by doing this gaining favourites outside would grant in game advantages too from chat.

[@C3H5N3O9]

I used to play this game even after it died and it was so fun that I couldn't understand why this game even died

[@AngryCaesCorporation]

Oh the memories... The fun I had with the little fame I gained from having an actual, fleshed-out character in the director role.. That was great.

[@row-bot4873]

Played this like 2 years ago with my friends they stopped playing it after a while but i really enjoyed it

[@Moss88]

I used to play this game back when it was released, and i loved it, but when it started to die down i was actually upset i miss the game

[@kyle13th97]

Honestly it feels great being the show director and it’s a shame there aren’t more games where you control how the match goes

[@zeehobo]

I played this a couple years ago and the community is nothing but wholesome!

[@Jacksaur_]

Shame this died, the simplicity was so good but they tried to pull it in too many directions. The director never added much (and made it harder to get matches) and these classes didn't even exist when I played! They had a really great combat system with the axe and arrow attacks only, and some really fast mobility on top of that with bounce pads and the like. But seems they didn't know what they wanted and tried doing anything they could to keep their declining playercount.

[@WebDevJoshuaMKS]

Something about Darwin Project some new players don't understand is that getting materials is just as fun as fighting in a battle and winning. Whether you lose or not (especially in the full release) doesn't matter, you don't feel like you wasted time because you get into an upgrade pattern, so it's not pointless to gather materials just to die because people automate it by getting into a loop/pattern. It's also a social and local feeling game that is arguably the most fun game to play online in 2022.

[@nyarlathotep6090]

This game was really unique for the gameplay because it stood out from all the BR games out there. Having a Show Director was a unique concept that really worked as well.

[@furioussherman7265]

The death of this game shows just how broken, toxic, and predatory the free-to-play model is. The only price tag that any video game should ever have on it is the one for buying it up-front, but your average person is so brainwashed into the supposed virtues of free-to-play that they choose it instead, kind of like a person who stays in a relationship with their abusive partner because the gaslighting and manipulation they suffer is all they know and they've been tricked into thinking it's a good thing.

[@josephlopez2661]

Still worth checking out. Being able to talk to opponents is my favorite thing. Wish more games did it.

[@Joshuathegreatest7]

I loved being the show director XD I used to make people so pissed off, while also making sure that the fight was super even, I'd check the players, see the player with the least ammount of supplies, and lead them to a cashe to help them catch up. And if a player was too far ahead, I'd sprinkle just a bit of chaos onto them. Gravity, speed, leading them to another player, only to make that player invincible, etc. and if I ever saw a person hiding, I'd just nuke that zone. It was so fun. XD

[@yasinhenfs4540]

so great memories, in the late stages all players knew each other and it felt so family like

[@hench6109]

I used to absolutely love this game and grinded it everyday against the top players, I kinda stopped due to the class update cause i missed my old stuff, honestly its a fun game tho

[@HUNT73R]

Bro legit you just read my mind

[@valgoyt912]

I still think of this game. I still have funny memories of being the host and flying around

[@dylanthony1]

Don’t forget to mention proximity chat in the game. It was so much fun hearing people trash talk in the game

[@Dr.Viperbeta]

This was a really fun game but it always felt incomplete

[@daniswara1164]

They had 3 years but never tried to listen to what the player wants. That's how you make a failing game. Instead of becoming one of a kind artist it's just way better to be the engineer who listen to their customer's need.

[@supercoollad]

my favorite battle royale would've loved it having more support

[@cullenturtlee1172]

I miss this game. playing it back when it came out and when the 1.0 update made me feel good

[@andykio]

I was a show director for A LOT of time, was my first intro In the streamer world. And what actually kill the game is... The game itself. Combat was rewarding; but not FUN, how i know? Easy, late game is a mess. 6/10 people in a small ring is a vertical fight when people fly like no gravity the moment you hit with an axe. Also some players get salty the moment you touch the situation, even in tournaments when audience can decide fate of a player. Not even talking how tracking it was SO FREE...

[@Mark-ps7eh]

that's every BR. but ok.

[@Jacksaur_]

@@Mark-ps7eh None of his points apply to any other BR right now...

[@Mark-ps7eh]

@@Jacksaur_ oh, so you're saying other BR's dont have a lot of people in the ending circle camping? Ah, ok, you're right Jack. Lol moron.

[@ThatSkiFreak]

@@Mark-ps7eh I’m not a big battle royal fan, but this reply genuinely makes no sense.

[@Mark-ps7eh]

@@ThatSkiFreak For a small minded individual it shouldn't, so i dont blame you.

[@TechnicSky]

I’ll be honest. Me and a homie played the game A LOT when they had Duos. And even would get into a party with our two other friends to do a sort of Co-Op survival in the Battle Royale. We stopped playing when the Jetpack came out cuz it really messed with the flow of the game. Hell, the implementation of the heat factor- where instead of snow the players would be put in a tropical area randomly- was absolutely not a bad change compared to it. And not to mention that they seemed to have gotten rid of duos around that time, so the game was just for pure solo. And that killed the game for me and my friends. I honestly just hope the devs can bring back the OG style soon or something.

[@TheHelpMaster]

The Fact that after the Beta ended, that every Beta Player was given Access to the Full game was huge

[@slipperysteve6188]

Man I loved Darwin Project so much. The Host role was some of the best times i've had in any game.

[@Virsu]

I played Darwin for a long time, such a shame to see it go, it had real potential

[@SpaceGhost831]

Man I missed this game. It was really a battle royal that made planning and stealth important. Really made it a actual battle royal. Shame that it died tho. Will miss this game

[@cootie7]

I remember playing this when it was popping, I really wish this game never died.

[@Equinox_Fox]

I was there at the dawn. Played this game at pax. Way fun game until they nicked duos.

[@wigwagwook6883]

Played this and Hyper Scape on the xbox. Player base consisted of the most cracked gamers.

[@TheVividestPeak]

I remember finding it and playing it so much with my friend back in 2018. It was such a fun, interesting, and unique game that we bonded over. So many great memories, it’s such a shame how it fell.

[@Packbetrippin]

For those who dont know this game has a huge learning curve thats what makes this game cool to me because you have to be smart and take time learning the game mechanics thats One of the main problems people stop playing in the 1st place is because most people just want a easy game instead of something challenging and skillful

[@SnappyDude]

I played Darwin from very early on, and despite hating most BR games I really enjoyed it. Many of the games choices, such as the smaller player count, hunting/tracking, and crafting instead of random loot drops gave it a more tactical feel. Every choice you made, where to go, what resources to gather, what to craft, how you used the weather all of it mattered. I loved this game until its low player count caused the devs to push it in a more typical BR direction. It went from players suriving to being some weird scifi showdown that relied way too much on the flash tech upgrades. I get why they did it but I still wish they had leaned more into the low tech survival side. I wanted more hand made weapons like the bows and ax. More tracking, hunting, and hiding options. Maybe a desert map that flipped the hot cold mechanic or a jungle map that played with some other weather effect. There was so much they could have done with the original concept it was a shame.

[@JoeeyTheeKangaroo]

From someone who has 1600 hours in this game I am really sad that it died, if the devs put in more effort marketing this and releasing new updates it could have been huge.

[@Tawmero]

This is one of my fav games. I got it for free on ps4 on release and the only complaint i had was 10 players, i would like to have a few more like 25. It really made me sad that people stopped playing over time

[@EuLucio]

this game was fucking amazing. the small player sized still clicked because of 12 man matches and the director, repeating who the director is was fun

[@nomnom3831]

Competitive Darwin Project was a blast, i started taking the game more seriously back in 2020 and it was so absolutely satisfying. It's so sad that people never really got into it, as the entertainment of these more skilled fights paired with the viewer interaction would have made the game insanely good.

[@mistyleo]

7:12 biggest reason i never really got into br games. it’s more than likely that whoever initiated the fight is going to win, especially if they’re equal or have a higher skill level then you. having to be on guard with such i high amount of players in most games just feels tedious and kinda boring. sucks that the only br that caught is dead is dead before i could even try it

[@fish2845]

Oh man, i really liked this game. I used to always play director, running into the same few people over and over again felt great. Too bad we're probably never gonna see something like this again.

[@jaredangelodestua5577]

darwin project: im back!😈

[@Chronix1k]

i played this game like 2 years ago and it was actually really fun but it was so unknown that it took like 10 minutes to find matches and when i did finally get into a match, it would be like 2 real people and the rest AI. unfortunate that it died

[@IsaacLX3]

The Devs killed this game- the community was tight and active more than can be expressed but in their own discord server the devs were just assholes and it made me and the rest I knew leave only to come back later to an abandoned half dead game- saying it was fun is such an understatement though, it's rly tragic :/

[@someguy166]

It's a shame this game died, when I played it (including the stream participation) and it was really damn good, with it did well

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

I was their when it first came out an I must say everything about its concept is worth doing again people will love it am still pissed no one has tried it again

[@cz_seby]

this game didn't need to die, was such a good time

[@rarelyused3]

as someone who religiously played this game daily for about a month after it realeased, the gameplay was amazing, the pricetag was the main reason stopping new players from joining. sure, it feels unfair to be shot in the head with an arrow lategame and just die, but being on the other end of that bow, even if it was just a lucky shot, was the most exhilarating feeling ever. the game wasnt perfect by any means but for a 10-player game, you constantly felt like you were in a predator movie, either as the predator, or more likely, the innocent son-of-a-gun who got caught up in the fight. TL;DR, very good game, died cos it werent free

[@Tjways]

Dude this game was so much better than other Battle Royale, like getting different effects on each zone and having a guy control zone, I hope this video blows up and it gets one more chance!

[@frankyherrera2670]

always played as the director when i played the game. Game was so much fun, so sad to see its downfall

[@cukoo4legos]

Used to play this game. Was honestly a lot of fun when you learned it

[@bratman2464]

i used to be a top 10% in darwin I miss the game so much and if I could I would make it again not careing about it just like a bo3 mod type thing

[@age540]

Kinda sad, i really enjoyed the combats and mechanics. Yes, the game structure isnt like warzone or apex, but that's what it makes it unique, you just need to see the game as it is. Those intense moments of dodging axes and arrows while looking for a split second to enter and hit the opponent were wild for me at least. If i had to choose one game to give it popularity and success, it'd definetly be the darwins project

[@razir923]

It was my favourite game for so long, pumped like 500 hours into it

[@TecKillA]

Bruh i remember playing this A LOT on my Xbox when it existed, man i miss this game

[@metalius9787]

As a person who loves that game, and who poured almost 100h into it i convince you guys to try it. You will really like it.

[@mellowdarkness3344]

Grapple arm was my thing. The drone was really underwhelming in the face of intense mobility

[@spliffest]

For a game that "couldn't survive" its bizarre the servers are still up on 3 platforms 5 years later.... seems like its surviving to me

[@KirokTv]

The only Battle Royale I really loved. I got thousands of hours in it. I still miss it

[@darkly5170]

I remember playing this game forever ago, it was really fun imo. Sad to see it go

[@pleo8103]

THIS GAME WAS SO GOOD I PLAYED IN THE FIRST TWO TOURNAMENTS

[@hawmehgio3570]

I played this game religiously all the way up until they announced the end of support. I really miss the community and gameplay

[@J7T800]

Kinda ironic how the Darwin Project died due to natural selection. It was born into an already niche genre. Didn't have enough resources to sustain itself, while also having to compete with another upcoming title that later on became the face of Battle Royale games.

[@MiniQuits]

marketing and updates to the game would have made this game WAY bigger than it is now

[@TheJungaBoon]

All these Battle Royale games but none have involved regular Japanese high-schoolers with explosive collars like in the film.

[@jackarooooo4913]

darwin was super fun all it needed was bigger maps at least 50 players i think this game could of had more of a chance

[@Gwizou]

Man the memories

[@ripdoxyyy]

This game was SO GOOD. Unfortunate that the developers pretty much gave up on it. Less and less patch notes and just started pushing cosmetics.

[@nefstein3853]

I loved this game, really really fun but good things don't last

[@justinharkness2159]

I miss this game

[@blu2194]

I fell in love with this game during the beta, the full release 1.0 version came with the jet packs which killed the game

[@Sam-pr6oe]

It was by far one of my favorites. Fights over the electronics, or when everyone is in the zone that a director closes or nukes, along with the pure skill axe/bow combat that’s about as fighting game-ish as BRs come. I def think a lot of it was limited playerbase so the new player experience was okay in beta but people got v good v fast. Still amazing if you got into a lobby that was competitive. Shoutout Gomen and Guts, big fuck you to Jotobo

[@onemorescout]

Hey, I remember playing this once. Exactly once.

[@TheCrystalEverglow]

As someone who played on launch, I can safely say that I got tired of the game when I got 3rd partied 3rd of my match in a single game. Games would play out by one player creeping on other waiting for him to get into the fight and kill a victor who didn't have time to recover from the first. There was a unforgiving health system in play where you cloud survive eather 3 axe hits or 2 headshots from arrow and you would be out. Health regen was only available at campfire or trough special ability so quick fixes are not an option. Overall as someone who loves survival games this was more of a barebones melee focused battleroayale who just slapped "survival" on it's name and called it a day. There was no hunger system at play, no thirst and just no "game" besides looting trees for wood and skin from couches (yes I'm serious) for clothes upgrades. Oh yea and director would usually picked their favorite player based on their profile picture and just sabotaged anyone else around them, if not, Director would just straight up say "hey there is someone tracking you right behind you *proceeds to give exact location of the player* and thus ending the game before you even got to final circle. If you didn't listen to him he'd debuff you so had you might as well dc because you didn't fulfill his powerfantasy.

[@ripmarnii]

Ngl you missed a lot of points, the game actually died because the community was split, because the beta version was like a completely different game, and full release is the version you’re talking about, and people would quit because of it, and the new players liked it but the old players stayed in customs to play the old version, and because of this the new players had long wait times and eventually the new players quit to

[@luca-ew1de]

it was tough. i think that this game had so much potential and the release ultimately made all the old players quit and not want to return as it was such a different vibe and feel. it’s hard to take in and hopefully this game will be carried on and made better in the future, but for now you can only remember how it really was in its prime

[@Ofxzh]

I remember when the class system wasn’t a thing, man how the times changed.

[@BestgirlJordanfish]

Dang this game sounds kinda sick. And with friends to make little "tribes" could be so fun

[@daydreamteam1366]

I think the most interesting part and the part I would like the most to be reinvented by someone else is the spectator game Director concept.

[@Krypto1201]

I used to play it a crap ton before it died out. But there were SO MANY sweaty people playing the game💀

[@XiontheDark]

I got to play the game when it was FTP. It was fun and I really think it would've been a bit more active if it started as FTP.

[@TheFool553]

I could go on a rant about darwin project, but I'll keep it short. As many people have mentioned pre-release was better and caused a few players who were still there to leave. You also want to remember that the game was on consoles too, meaning player numbers were a bit higher than you might think. I've played the game for years and even when there was a large amount of people, I still saw a few players multiple times in games. With voice chat proximity and voice chat even for directors there was a lot of really nice people to talk to and hear have small rivalries against each other. It definitely had a sense of community which is why I think the game still has at least a few players today.

[@marioxzzz]

I think the problem with this "meticulous battle" type of design is that at the end of the day, if the way you win a match is killing an enemy, it will always be most rewarding doing that faster or in a flashier way. The concept of only 3 classes that you can customize sounds amazing, but you need to make sure the 3 are balanced while keeping the concept of freedom of choice. Eventually a more efficient way of "winning" will appear and in an ideal game of this type, they would give the resources to the player to create their own strategy to shut that down and keep a cycle of creativity without having to nerf or buff one of the classes, because if you have to focus on fixing your game instead of making new content you entered a countdown to failure. It's obvious they wanted to reward being creative in how you defeat an enemy after engaging in the tracking and searching resources aspect, but at the end this parts weren't as fun as the combat, and the combat wasn't enjoyable enough at the end to justify long matches this type of game wants to create. I think the game failed by giving a bow + axe. If they really wanted to reward mele combat, giving projectiles is the worst way of doing that. I think a shield would have been ideal (I didn't play this game, so tbh im just daydreaming a game I would play now) that way you really give the option of choosing between mobility, attack or defense. You need to reward the player properly if they decide to try and be creative with how they play. If you go Mobility you do less damage but you do it more often, land enough hits while staying close to enemies and you get a damage buff or crit effect. Give them short axes with less range and damage so you have to be really good at getting in and out while dodging if you want to use their full potential. Defense is all about finding resources and becoming a tank. Get found out early when you are slow and vulnerable and you are more likely to die, but be sneaky and farm well and you are untochable late game. Shields could have all types of effects but you need to find the right materials to activate them. Maybe a shield bash to unlock mobility+damage at the final stage of the game? or maybe special materials that return damage? Is an ice map, what about an ice shield that slows or even stuns the enemy? They also have an axe but combat is always with the shield in the other hand, but you still havent level it up, so while not completly helpess in the early game they really want to avoid combat against the other two classes. Finally make Damage a true glass canon. Let them make an axe with a rope so they are the only ones who have a type of projectile, let them have fire axes, double axes. Give them the tools to kill like they have guns, but like everyone else they have to make them and find you to kill you. Then it becomes a rock paper scissors at the end game, but everyone has their own unique way of getting there and you may die before that. Or kill before that, it'll depend on your skill, game knowledge or strategy. Tanks are strong agains mobility, they have the tools to survive their damage and even if they dont land a hit they wont die fast, giving them time to run away or land a counter attack. Late game they have all the resources to shut down Mobilty They get destroyed by damage tho, so they must avoid them and be extra good to run away if they face one, and even in the late game, they will melt you eventually if you are not good enough using the resources you got. Mobility is the nightmare for Damage, they will duel them over and over, and if they are good, eventually they will deal the same damage for a window of time while keeping the superior speed. They are pure skill, feast or famine. Give them tools to track early and cheaper weapons that make them op in the mid game but fell down if they take too long to finish a game. Give them little health to force them to dodge. Damage will be solid at all stages of the game, but that also means he can fall behind at any point if you are not careful. They can look for fights early or try to reach a point where they can 2 shoot an enemy, but they need to land those hits live everyone else and unlike the other classes, all their resoruces are damage oriented. They will have the tools to land a hit on Mobility or melt Tanks eventually, but they can loose to mobility in early-mid, and while strong against tanks, they need to find them or make sure they get to late game with the right tools for shuting them down.

[@zaggyzombie]

i wish the Darwin Project survived. I loved the combat, as well as the show director aspect. Whenever a player did something like get a kill or narrowly escape a bad fight, i'd reward them. If they cowered in a corner i would flush them out into combat. Just a really cool game that i wish didn't die.

[@BurningSkele99]

My boyfriend and I would DESTROY on this game. When we heard they were stopping development of the game we were absolutely devastated. The game, the mechanics, and everything were just so unique and different than other br games, especially the implementation of the show director. Ugh! Wish this game became popular. Such a waste of what could've been pure perfection.

[@KuzuTomoki]

Damn, this sounds so much better than Fork Knife. If only I had *heard of it at all* before it died, jeezis