Are You Using The Wrong Strings? | Acoustic Guitar String Comparison

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@shakiljames9198
@shakiljames9198 4 жыл бұрын
I'm using the wrong hands
@CoopsXKE
@CoopsXKE 4 жыл бұрын
As usual, a terrific job, Chris. My string of choice is Elixer. All of my guitars are strung with light nanos. Yes, they last 5 times longer under my hands but the other reason is that they reduce string squeak. That squeak is a pet peeve of mine. Fresh unwound strings just make so much noise it’s distracting.
@tubeamp2872
@tubeamp2872 3 жыл бұрын
Keep practicing you're doing great. The more you practice the more that opens up. Record copy everyday too.
@rukhsah
@rukhsah 3 жыл бұрын
Experiment, change them😅😅
@pdiddley7597
@pdiddley7597 2 жыл бұрын
Wanna trade?
@porschepal7932
@porschepal7932 2 жыл бұрын
I felt the same way when I first started but believe me it gets easier.
@BanjoTemple
@BanjoTemple Жыл бұрын
*Nice video! Really useful..* 10:47 - Elixir Nanoweb Phosphor Bronze, Light .12-.53 11:37 - D'Addario EJ11 80/20 Bronze, Light .12-.53 12:27 - D'Addario Nickel Bronze, Light .12-.53 13:16 - D'Addario Flat Tops Phosphor Bronze, Light .12.-53 14:05 - Martin Retro Acoustic Monel Nickel, Light .12-.54 14:55 - Martin Authentic Acoustic Phosphor Bronze, Medium .13-.56 15:45 - D'Addario Phosphor Bronze, Extra Light .10-.47
@Abdelrahman__rashed
@Abdelrahman__rashed 4 жыл бұрын
"What do I know? I'm just a KZbin presenter." I was like man, If there's someone who knows anything it's you! Appreciate the content and effort. Definitely useful!
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@cricklekid
@cricklekid 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is so-oo articulate and so-oo informative. Nobody analyzes the issues deeper or better. I watch pretty much all of the various guitar subject presenters on KZbin and this guy, Chris McKee, IMHO, is the absolute, outright, undisputed KING of them all! Long may he reign supreme!
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@dieselman7453
@dieselman7453 3 жыл бұрын
Yea the guys a legend 🇮🇪🇮🇪cheers from Ireland
@clovergrass9439
@clovergrass9439 2 жыл бұрын
He's the brain surgeon of guitardom.
@zumbaRdie
@zumbaRdie 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. This guy is an amazing presenter and awesome guitar player.
@thomasecallaghan1111
@thomasecallaghan1111 Жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍
@the_unkowngod_2328
@the_unkowngod_2328 4 жыл бұрын
10:47 Nanoweb Phospher Bronze (Elixr) 11:38 Polyweb 80/20 (Daddario) 12:27 Nickel Bronze (Daddario) 13:17 Flatops (Daddario) 14:05 Martin Retro 14:55 Martin Authentic 15:45 Phospher Bronze (Daddario) EXTL Your welcome have a blessed 4th 😊🎇🎆🎆
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciated!
@the_unkowngod_2328
@the_unkowngod_2328 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlamoMusic of course Keep up the great vidz 👍
@vs_830
@vs_830 3 жыл бұрын
All we need is ...
@Doowopsid
@Doowopsid 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@markola
@markola 3 жыл бұрын
Martin retros, thank you!!!
@two_wanderedsouls
@two_wanderedsouls 4 жыл бұрын
Being a beginner & knowing nothing about guitars. I learned so much from ur videos. U r not just a man of knowledge u r also a teacher
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
So nice of you
@NoblesseObligedCP
@NoblesseObligedCP 4 жыл бұрын
You should check out Rick Beato channel he has a lot of info on guitars too and brings others in. I am a beginner also and have learned a lot from that channel. They also did a video on strings for acoustic and electric.
@daniela.musick5087
@daniela.musick5087 3 жыл бұрын
What strings did you end up going with ?
@MissesRobot
@MissesRobot 2 жыл бұрын
This man really took the time to change out each strong type to show us the difference 🏆
@voornaam3191
@voornaam3191 Жыл бұрын
Each strong type. Do you know king is kong in Danish?
@williamshakespeare9705
@williamshakespeare9705 2 жыл бұрын
I have compared strings similar to these, and I have to say that the differences are far more pronounced and obvious when you're actually playing (as opposed to listening to a recording on youtube). The long introduction is fascinating. If you skipped it, go back and listen, there's important information there.
@natalirivero467
@natalirivero467 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I heard clear differences when he switched bettween gauges, but no so much with the matirials, perhaps the slightly brighter tone of nickel but I might has been biased by the information given in the intro. To me, .13 had more volume, specially on the bass, it also sounded punchier and fuller/rounder. But I kinda prefered the warmth of the 12s on this (lesser tension sometimes provides warmer tone, I guess it depends on the guitar). The 10s sounded "thiner". Also, I don't like how 10s feel on the fingers, 11s feel good on full lenght guitars, but 10s feel weird to me for acoustics.
@mountainman4774
@mountainman4774 4 жыл бұрын
As a technical point, 80/20 strings are brass, even though they are sometimes labeled “80/20 bronze.” They are made from an alloy that is 80% copper and 20% zinc, which makes them brass and accounts for their bright tone and their tendecy to corrode rather quickly if uncoated. Phosphor bronze strings are true bronze, and are made from an alloy that is about 92% copper and 8% tin with a trace amount of phosporous, which helps fight corrosion. I like them both and sometimes go back and forth between them on the same guitar, just for a change. I have to say though that phosphor bronze are the ones I tend to use the most because of their warmth. But I should also say that 80/20s on a smaller maple body guitar, is one of my favorites combinations. Its like playing a bell. Strings that use nickel, either as a coating (D’Addario) or in an alloy (Martin), are somehow more neutral to my ear so that you seem to hear more of the wood and less of the strings, if that makes any sense. They are not to my taste, but maybe that’s because 50 years of playing phosphor bronze or 80/20s has made everything else sound not quite right to me. I understand that some people (oh, you know, like Tony Rice) love them, so you should at least try them. Flat wound strings sound super warm to me, but I have only used them on my electrics to mellow them out. Never tried them on an acoustic. Never knew anyone who did . Might have to give ‘em a shot!
@akfisher7138
@akfisher7138 3 жыл бұрын
very helpful comment.
@Doowopsid
@Doowopsid 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a great analysis. Thank you. What do you think of the Martin custom MA130 silk and steel 11.5-47’s? Can you please tell me how they compare to these other ones if you are familiar with them? I just put them on a Washburn acoustic yesterday. Thank you!
@mountainman4774
@mountainman4774 3 жыл бұрын
@@Doowopsid Silk and steel will produce a very warm and layed back tone that will lack the punch of strings that are all metal (for better or worse). It's a sound better suited to thoughtful fingerpicking than full tilt bluegrass flat picking. They will also play a bit softer to the touch, so they are great if you have sore fingers or are trying to master bar chords. My concern is that silk and steel strings in 11.5-47 may not put enough energy into the top of your guitar, particularly if it’s a large body guitar, to make it sound its best. I once put steel 12-53s on my Martin D-28, and I thought it sounded dead. The strings you have are lighter than that, plus they are slilk and steel, which futher diminishes their ability to get the top moving. But again, this is purely a matter of personal preference and there is no right or wrong. What sounds thin to me may sound delicate and perfect to you. My advice would be to buy several packages of strings in different types and guages (get uncoated strings for this test-- they are cheaper than coated strings) and see what you like. Once you figure that out you can decide on things like which brand to buy and whether you prefer coated or uncoated strings.
@SamC_
@SamC_ 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! Awesome info. I was just wondering what would you put in a smaller body mahogany guitar(size of a GS mini)?
@mountainman4774
@mountainman4774 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamC_ With a guitar like that, I would probably start with 12-53s. The GS Mini has a short scale (the distance from the bridge to the nut), which means that the strings will have less tension than they would have on a standard scale guitar. I have played guitar for 54 years and have petty good calluses so sore fingers are not an issue for me, and I don’t care for strings that feel floppy. I might even like 13s on that guitar. Phosphor bronze is normally my preference, and my go to brand is Elixir Nanoweb, mostly because I have a lot of guitars and don’t want to spend my life changing strings. I find that uncoated strings only last a few weeks before they start to go dead, but I can get three months or more out of a set of coated strings. Uncoated strings sound a bit better, but the difference is not all that great, and I’m lazy. In any case, this is entirely a matter of personal preference, so experiment and see what you like.
@nicoaguilar13
@nicoaguilar13 3 жыл бұрын
My first guitar was a dreadnought that came with 13’s. My poor fingers were sore just after 30 minutes of playing! Even after 8 months! When it came time to get new strings I put 11’s on and I will never go back. I can play for hours now without finger fatigue and I love the tonal quality! Best blend for strumming and fingerpicking!
@RONzilber
@RONzilber 3 жыл бұрын
You should consider buying Thomastik strings. They are lower tension strings, feels more like a classic guitar strings. It lets you band the strings better and you can put 0.12 strings and play without getting tired fast. It's around 25 bucks but its another league of playability and sound quality.
@ubertwerpify
@ubertwerpify 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Sir !!! Thank you for taking the time to do this for all of us : my ranking: 1-Monel 2-Flat top 3-Phosphor Bronze 4-80/20 I was surprised on the 13s the 10s sounded decent in comparison and i would guess way easier on the fingers - cheers!
@melvinsfan
@melvinsfan 3 жыл бұрын
Elixir FTW. Absolutely perfect. Elixirs on Martins and Taylors = perfection.
@koolkitties8552
@koolkitties8552 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using Elixers for over 20 yrs and wont use any other string ever! I have an old Yairi brazilian rosewood dreadnaught and its the best sounding guitar I've ever played.
@sisgaia
@sisgaia 4 жыл бұрын
"What do I know? I'm just a KZbin presenter." Love it! You present a theory, but you let it be known that it is just your theory and should not be taken as authoritative. I appreciate the honesty.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@bhanuprakashhc4176
@bhanuprakashhc4176 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlamoMusic Hi, as a beginner I have changed strings a lot of time but still I feel bit hard to press the strings 😀, which one is friendly for the fingers . Thank You 🙏
@family3medevals790
@family3medevals790 3 жыл бұрын
What effort it took changing all these strings! Thanks Chris. After playing multiple times and contrasting the strings I found it difficult to distinguish one set from another; nevertheless the Elixr was true to the Taylor tone that one expects whereas the Martin’s seem less bright (and more to my taste) but the differences were subtle. Now presuming Chris’ playing and string pressure was consistent throughout, I decided to hear whether the squeak factor varied. The flattops had noticeable less squeaking and they did seem slightly more mellow. Will definitely give them a try. Thanks much for the interesting video.
@nicegood123
@nicegood123 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this comparison! I like the crispy tones of Phospher Bronze (Daddario) Extra light. This video helped me a lot to decide my new strings and actually differentiate the strings in the market.
@ektalon1
@ektalon1 4 жыл бұрын
Chris, great video. My 71-year-old ears could tell the difference between some sets of strings, but not others. The first set of Elixirs immediately sounded like you playing a Taylor guitar, as in so many videos that I have watched.I think I would know that (beautiful) sound blindfolded. I enjoyed hearing your opinion, but being “open“ to what may work for others and on different guitars/tone woods. Thanks!
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Your comments are always appreciated Barry!
@tamirkeren6750
@tamirkeren6750 2 жыл бұрын
The Martin retro set sounded amazing to my ears. I was curious about light strings cause considerred changing for more comfort but they sounded weak compared to the others. Thank you for the video,real helpfull.
@jasonnewman4152
@jasonnewman4152 Жыл бұрын
Just put a set of these, custom light .11, on my Taylor. Loving the sound so far.
@marklove6580
@marklove6580 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job, Chris. Very helpful. Recently became a fan of the Monel Retro Extra Lights on my Yamaha FGX3. Your observation about mahogany and the Retros is appreciated. I agree and think I’ve found “my strings.” Better sound and resonance on the low and high ends vs the silk and steels I’ve experimented with. The silks sound muddy on the low end and oddly twangy on the other, especially when fingerpicking. The monels give a more balanced response, and although I like the extra lights generally, I can still feel the Monels on my finger tips, which helps me fret the strings. They work well for me, whether I’m strumming, flatpicking or fingerpicking. Versatile strings, for me, across all styles. And it sort of does add a bit of that 1940s sound that you hear on old recordings of the blues greats. At $8.99 per set, good value too
@jmedi5589
@jmedi5589 4 жыл бұрын
As a newbie I didn’t tell the difference. They all sounded awesome. And so was the presentation, I learned a lot in a short 18 minutes.
@angelg8445
@angelg8445 4 жыл бұрын
Chris I gotta say ur playing/rec/technique has improved soooo much since ur early vids. I appreciate these.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate it!
@ScottRandall31
@ScottRandall31 4 жыл бұрын
The trade off is always between tone and how long they last. I have always loved Martin medium gauge bronze and long life’s...but they don’t last very long. Elixirs last longer but do not have the same tone. Great discussion!
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@donaldboyett7682
@donaldboyett7682 4 жыл бұрын
Elixirs not only last longer but hold a consistent tone much longer also. New Martins are very bright and sound great but the tone changes and goes downhill pretty quickly. I have four acoustics and years ago I switched from Martin to Elixir Nanoweb for the consistency of tone and to cut down on the number of string changes. They do cost more but the longer life evens the cost out in the long run.
@zunif
@zunif 2 жыл бұрын
Try the Martin retros. They last long and sound great.
@joetaska
@joetaska 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a little late to the party but here's my two cents, every guitar is different. You have to try every different combination and then you will know which brand or style sounds best on your particular guitar. Taylor's come with the Elixir strings but I just don't like coated strings because they always felt oily to me. But that's just me. So I tried a dozen different sets and ended up loving the strings I thought I would hate. Martin Retro strings didn't sound shiny or slick and I could hear more of the guitar than the strings if that makes any sense. So try everything you can find even if you don't like the packaging or the style. Because everyone can tell you what they think is best but that's for their guitar and yours might sound better than anything with something else.
@robertnewell5057
@robertnewell5057 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I feel
@wmobrien55
@wmobrien55 4 жыл бұрын
Great Information! No one ever gets to hear all those types of strings, new, on the same guitar, and playing the same music. Was eye opening! Think I'll try a set of D'Addario Nickel Bronze lights. Thanks again!
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@raywakila7153
@raywakila7153 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say I appreciate the time and effort that you and Alamo make to present these kinds of videos. I watch a lot of them (a how-to-record your acoustic last night for instance). Looking forward to doing business with you sometime soon. Thank you.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@bambostarla6259
@bambostarla6259 4 жыл бұрын
Strings are on of those things that are very influenced by personal preference. Especially the gauge. After I started using 14s I never wanted to go back to lighter strings. I have strong hands, and in my opinion 14s are very versatile: if I want to pick lightly, I have that option. If want to strum heavily, I have that option. Took me 2 years to figure out the perfect strings for my tastes.
@kennasalsberry3549
@kennasalsberry3549 Жыл бұрын
I love love this so much. The explanation was so precise and not opinion based. I DO wish there were some strumming examples for those who play mainly rhythm that wanted to compare rhythm tones.
@SingSurfStrum
@SingSurfStrum 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, thank you. I was hoping you would cover this as String variety has saved me when falling out of love or just bored with my J200. Martin Marquis 80/20 11 are perfect for me this month. Have loved EJ16, and Martin Tommy Emmanuel 12s. on it to. You are spot on different strings change our whole relationship with the instrument. And Chris know this, you’ve rapidly become my favourite youtube reviwer. It’s your personal opinion and I respect that. Great to hear someone express one and not just someone noodling for 10 minutes. No B.S. and straight up. it’s just like having a buddy over to share his experience. Perfect. Thank you again I’m sure it took hous of work to make this episode. Have a great weekend.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We really appreciate it when people can see the work we put into a video!
@festushaggen2563
@festushaggen2563 3 жыл бұрын
The good news is every sample sounded good and none ruined the sound of the guitar. Use whatever you like that sounds good to your ears and feels good on your fingers.
@Camelotsmoon
@Camelotsmoon 4 жыл бұрын
11:37 Those are pretty nice; to me they seem to provide a deep, clear tone.
@seayak
@seayak 2 ай бұрын
Very useful and educational. Frankly I am surprised at how little difference the string changes made, even though I could hear the differences. I think we are fortunate these days to have so many options in high-quality strings. That was a lot of work changing out all those string sets, so thanks for doing the experiment most of us will never do! Even if you did, you could not hold the tonal envelope of the old set in your memory long enough to compare it to the new set, which is what makes this video so valuable - now it is possible to browse through the various string sets and make direct A to B to C comparisons. Congratulations from a neuroscientist who is a fan of your channel!
@Tra539
@Tra539 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you! I can't image the pain of changing all those strings, you took one for the team
@TylerMBP
@TylerMBP 4 жыл бұрын
this video must've taken so much effort for sure left a like
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
You have no idea. The crew hated my guts. LOL!
@1funkybasslady
@1funkybasslady 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlamoMusic So be sure to extend our appreciation to the crew as well! They are the unsung heroes of all of your great videos. As a musician this reminds me of how the band are the unsung heroes who make the singer sound good! LOL!! Now let's see how much flak this comment gets! 😂
@chaipod
@chaipod 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlamoMusic Holy Molly Crew.
@angelg8445
@angelg8445 4 жыл бұрын
OHHHH! FINALLY A STRING VID! I love Elixir Phosphor Bronze 12-56 on(light-medium) on my Parlor Larrivee p-09 12 fret and now I need to get strings for my Taylor 322ce 12 freter. Perfect Timing
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!!
@michaeljones8058
@michaeljones8058 4 жыл бұрын
That was amazing! Thank you for putting that together. I now have no doubt that I am using the right strings. I have a Taylor 814CE and a Taylor K26 KOA CE. I really like the Elixir Nanoweb Phosper-Bronze 12-53's.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@nikol7951
@nikol7951 6 күн бұрын
Excellent, thank you. My favorite sound and tone was the Elixir Nanoweb Phosphor Bronze, Light .12-.53, will try that in my Martin guitar tonight!
@stevesstrings5243
@stevesstrings5243 4 жыл бұрын
To my ear, I liked the D'Addario EJ11 80/20 Bronze, Light .12-.53 the best. Thanks for the demo!
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@frederickthompson8686
@frederickthompson8686 4 жыл бұрын
Another very useful segment, Chris. Much food for thought. I recently experimented with a 1960 Martin 00-18 that I've owned since new. This old girl has had a neck re-set back in the early 90s, and the neck has remained reasonably stable ever since (there's no adjustable truss rod). As a precaution, and to improve playability with my aging fingers, I've always used light or very light strings. Recently, I've turned to Martin Silk and Steel, which offer the lowest tension in Martin's entire string line. And I've changed out the high E and B strings to .09 and .11 respectively to further reduce neck tension and increase bending comfort... I play a lot of blues. The Silk and Steel have a very unique, tactile feel, and sound amazingly warm. I like them so much that I've also put them on my Martin HD-28 and HD 12-28, although on the HD-28 I left the E and B strings at 11.5 and .14. I'd recommend that anyone looking for a "softer" feel and reduced tension, and a warm tone, consider Silk and Steel as an option. The only downside is that the volume is marginally reduced -- although the HD-28 is a volume monster, even with these strings! -- and they're not quite as long lasting as uncoated bronze or nickel.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Glad you found a setup that works for you!
@alexwest4253
@alexwest4253 2 жыл бұрын
I've always preferred Martin strings on my acoustics but those Elixir's sound pretty awesome! Might have to try a set.
@James-oh1wp
@James-oh1wp Жыл бұрын
I agree Alex . Those are my favourite strings too
@dannyonsaturn5458
@dannyonsaturn5458 Жыл бұрын
Buying my own strings for the first time without anyone else's help after 7/8 years playing and this was so helpful!!
@markrobinson891
@markrobinson891 4 жыл бұрын
I fell in love with and bought a Martin custom dread with addi top, tiger wood back and sides. The top is a darker blond and the Martin lifespan it was fitted with have a bronze color on the B and E. They sound superb and enhance the appearance of that yellow wood. I’m happy you did finger style during the demo. Picks (thickness, shape, material) as you know, can make a surprising difference in tone. Another factor is the room you’re in. We’ve all fallen in love with a separate room, usually locked so you need a special invitation to enter, filled with the best and most expensive options. When you play anything in that room, the sound will move into, around in, and back out to your ears from the other instruments in the room. You should ask to play in a room by yourself to hear what any guitar will really sound like.
@krisverding3908
@krisverding3908 3 жыл бұрын
Which strings did replace those msp 's with the gold looking e and b string for you on that guitar ?
@markrobinson891
@markrobinson891 3 жыл бұрын
@@krisverding3908 finding “favorite” strings is an inexact science in my world. I’m using D’Addario XT phosphor bronze medium. I’m not only a weirdo for caring that b and e are gold color but I very rarely play in front of others who would see them. Every time i change strings I think I’ve found the best because new strings always sound and feel wonderful. Some pros change strings daily. Yeah. Pros. Those on tour with technicians to keep everything optimal.
@texhaines9957
@texhaines9957 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I've heard Tommy E say that he switches string brands at times. But he also plays all over & that may have something to do with it as well as "tone wood memory ". This is a very good comparison. Never thought about tone woods and stings sounding different, but makes sense. Thanks Chris.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@dannycoleman2849
@dannycoleman2849 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlamoMusic ` what is the best string for brazilian rosewood ?
@LastTrump7
@LastTrump7 10 ай бұрын
@@AlamoMusicgreat job and a lot of work. That finger picking its hard to tell a lot of difference in some other then a few have more string noise sliding. I would like to heard those strings played more in a flat picking and strumming style.
@jasonkofoed1040
@jasonkofoed1040 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve used elixir phosphor bronze 12-53 since inception and love them but after watching this I’m going to trial the flat tops, that sound blew my mind.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Let us know how you like it on your guitar!
@jasonkofoed1040
@jasonkofoed1040 4 жыл бұрын
Alamo Music Center ok gave it a try, double the price of Elixir and to be honest not worth the extra coin. Sure less noisy shifting chords/sliding but only beneficial if recording. Personally I like the odd squeaky noise shifting, sounds human.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for updating us! It's definitely not for everyone!
@davechen1426
@davechen1426 4 жыл бұрын
10 responds much better than I expected !
@MCPerez
@MCPerez 4 жыл бұрын
I watched this video in order to open my knowledge , Yes it did. The thing is I love D'addario strings I love 11-12 string those are the strings I use on all my guitars, sometimes I try alice strings and Fender strings but nothing beats the D'addario in my opinion thank you for the video I loved it
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@marcocodoni2668
@marcocodoni2668 2 жыл бұрын
wow! you perform a relly instructive job chris! changing all those strings,take off the others,the pins,than rewrap,retune,wait for them to settle,replay,retune...oh my god,for every single set! you must have spent the entire morning or afternoon doing this! people don' t bother...i' m a kind of luthier myself and i try and experiment things,you know...break strings,try different pins or nut or saddles and this set ,and that one...jesus...i get the work you do,and thath' s really useful because i used to record different gauges,it tkes forever and the more you listen,the less you ear...but you put all this in a simple video,easy to get.exellent help! i didn t realize how thin 0.10 are untill i heard it next to the others...when you play it' s different...you feel the difference but you get used at the same time,so you never reaally know unless you own 2 identical guitars with different gauges and you swich. 0.10 sucks! but i have played them for 20 years...oh my god...i gotta get used to 0.12. you can' t judge a guitars with 0.10! and i sold many guitars just because they sounded thin! with 0.10! ah ah ha.ok i apologize for the letter,it had to be a short message,but....ok ciao from italy
@rockdc12
@rockdc12 4 жыл бұрын
It really does just come down to what texture and sound you are trying to create. Great video
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@ChrisSchaffer
@ChrisSchaffer 4 жыл бұрын
Really wonderful string comparison and an explanation of your understanding of the factors at play! This is very helpful to folks that need a bit of a preview of the different sounds and feels of the materials before dumping some cash into the experiment. To be honest, this video convinced me to buy a set of flat tops - I'd been thinking about wanting to just see how they sound for awhile, but without any easy side-by-side comparison I just hadn't been willing to risk it if I could put those same dollars to either another set of the same old strings or a "safer" experiment. I've been playing around with different materials and, more by accident, gauge lately to find what pairs best with my red cedar topped concert body Breedlove. By accident found out how much gauge mattered when I bought a set of medium gauge strings. They were excellent strings but I was definitely hearing more of the strings than the guitar in many cases or the tones muddied out a bit because of it. The body size and manufacturer's intent was definitely for regular light, 12-53, strings. After that adventure it has been the fun of working through some sets of phosphor bronze and aluminum bronze strings. My ear says that the phosphor bronze is pairing best with the cedar top for what I want to hear from my playing, it's warm, round, but maintains enough clarity to hear each string clearly. The aluminum bronze are just a tiny bit too bright for my taste, they're still clear articulate strings that I love and have on my guitar right at this moment, they just miss what I want to hear. But those are the two materials I've covered between a couple different companies. Really looking forward to continuing to broadly try different styles and manufacturers of strings as my current backlog wears out.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@slordar
@slordar 4 жыл бұрын
Hands down my favorite on this vid are the D'addario 80/20 bronze Light 12-53. Not too mellow like the elixir before yet not too bright either. Wish I had watched this vid before replacing my guitar strings.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
There's always next time!
@csharpminorseven
@csharpminorseven 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris for going to such lengths to give us the comparisons, very much appreciated. One factor you didn't mention is the 'squeak factor' which can become overpowering for the listener, spoiling the listening experience, and some uncoated strings can sound great but 'squeak noisy' at the same time, even with excellent player skills.For this reason I ended up using coated strings tho' I must try the D'Addario Flat Tops Phosphor Bronze at some time. But what counts most in the end is the player, and I really enjoyed your playing as I listened over to compare the different strings...👍
@davidmcausland4088
@davidmcausland4088 4 жыл бұрын
I have 5 Acoustic Guitars and They All have the same D'addario extra lite 10 Gauge strings And i am more than happy with the sound from them, However your quite right when you say to experiment as different guitars and how their made will sound Very different, At the end of the day the best strings are the ones your happy with and work well on the guitar you own.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@markolwick2223
@markolwick2223 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this. I’m sure it was a hassle to shoot, but it was incredibly helpful especially for beginners like me. You’re awesome!
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@rachaelhouman3501
@rachaelhouman3501 3 жыл бұрын
I’m saving up to order a new acoustic guitar, I’m trying to learn as much as I can before I get it. Thanks for the video this was actually really helpful
@TheTrollMastah
@TheTrollMastah 4 жыл бұрын
I think lighter strings (11-52s mostly) really ring and bring out the guitar‘a natural woody voice. I especially love monel strings. The ones Curt Mangan makes with a round core are superb. At least for my D18 Golden Era and J-55
@stewartcohen7683
@stewartcohen7683 9 ай бұрын
No dislikes! STILL!! (I mean who would?) Kudos for taking the time to do this. Though there is no way to accurately display how strings age, this might be the most useful comparison I've seen. I use different strings on different guitars of course, because each guitar has a different treble, midrange and bass response. I have switched to D'addario Nickel Bronze on my OM guitar--this confirms my choice much better than my memory. You can hear the increased bottom and clarity from the phosphor bronze, which IMO works better on a dreadnought. I think it's a taste issue, but if someone is looking to nail a particular tone for a recording for example, this is the go to video.
@se78836
@se78836 3 жыл бұрын
Elixir Nano Phosphor Bronze custom lights are just stunning on an Ovation.
@markchavez738
@markchavez738 4 жыл бұрын
Elixer sounded the best to me for sure. The notes sound ver clear.
@ErickAJobim
@ErickAJobim 2 жыл бұрын
That was the channel I was looking for since I start playing guitar, finally, after 1 year and a half, I found it
@sisgaia
@sisgaia 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you about the interaction between string selection and tonewood. I have recently purchased two different mahogany top guitars. I know you said that you like the Retro strings, but I would be interested in hearing comparisons of strings on tonewoods other than spruce.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Will pass this on!
@utbronell
@utbronell 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to change the strings so many times to do this comparison. I wished you had of played a few different styles on each set, especially just strumming as that what most beginner/intermediate guitarists do. Each set sounded different at the start compared to the set before but then after a little while, I forgot about the previous set and the current set still sounded good.
@dantheman348
@dantheman348 Жыл бұрын
I feel in general a really bright/brash string like many of the bronze variants can help wake up a newer guitar or one that's not really that resonant. But if the guitar is a old dried out vintage one with a hyper resonant top they can actually make them sound quite ugly, and the monels and nickel variants can really help those guitars shine.
@lindamorgan2678
@lindamorgan2678 Жыл бұрын
Thank you ! Answered the reason I am actually here. I have both types you described and have the same problem. I will take your advice
3 жыл бұрын
I am a guitar youtuber and I know this thing surely took a lot of time. Thanks !
@slackerprince1
@slackerprince1 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t envy you for having to change all those strings. Great video and very informative. Thanks!
@pgrove
@pgrove 3 жыл бұрын
Both of those Martin sets of strings sounded amazing.
@metalmover
@metalmover 4 жыл бұрын
Concerning electric...I had switched from 10s to a 9 hybrid set...but had to go back. As my playing improved, when I would do a trill of sorts there would be moments where the strings wouldn't return fast enough after bending and going back into a hammer on. I went back to 10s and it was less comfortable...however, the riffs sounded much better and I can only figure that if I went to 11s and killed my fingers...it would sound even better yet. I am not talking about the string sound...I am talking about the "return sounds" from a larger string bending.
@pecosnick45
@pecosnick45 3 жыл бұрын
With electric guitars the rule of thumb ive heard is you want to practice with one gauge higher than the strings you really want to play.
@FxnWaySheGoes
@FxnWaySheGoes 3 жыл бұрын
@@pecosnick45 that doesnt make sense to me. Play what you are going to play. If your finger hurt, stop being a pussy. My rule.
@jimberry5714
@jimberry5714 4 жыл бұрын
I really liked the first set for that particular instrument although the D'addario lights sounded nice as well. I use Coated Martin's on my acoustics. Also, I use D'addario 9.5's on my electrics. I find no problems with intonation or the need for truss adjustments. On bass, I love the GHS pressure wounds on my Mustang. They don't chew a six string player's fingers up but can still get nice and growly when pushed through a good analog preamp followed by a killer compressor.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@rsdelong
@rsdelong 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. The timestamps in the description allows me to quickly switch for one string demo to another. Very cool. I also learned that putting too much tension (heavier strings) might cause issues with body and/or neck. I've used Elixir 13/56 on my Taylor but I'm considering going to 12/53 after watching this video. Thanks
@samhealey7603
@samhealey7603 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this one Chris, as a long time electric player but new acoustic player these videos with your knowledge and experience are answering every question that I have. Great move using the same guitar too.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@scotthealy4290
@scotthealy4290 3 жыл бұрын
Elixirs nanowebs definitely sound the best to me. I utilize the elixir hd lights in phosphor bronze. I would highly recommend!!
@unijack_black6677
@unijack_black6677 2 жыл бұрын
same!! i actually love the less crispy sound to it, sounds more natural and less irritating!
@edamesify
@edamesify 3 жыл бұрын
Elixir for me. Been using it (nanoweb phosphor bronze 12/53) for my Taylor and my other guitars.
@javierdiazsantana
@javierdiazsantana 3 жыл бұрын
D'Addario Extra Lights sounded very nice and bright... Thank you!
@Mikee535
@Mikee535 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, thanks for taking the time to make all those string changes. I was surprised at the sound level of the your hand sliding on the strings including the flatwounds! Things I think you should add to Part II... 01. You need to check your neck relief and intonation every time you change strings especially is they are a different brand or gauge. 02. If you use alternate tunings, different gauges, tune 1/2 step down..... you need to look up one of the online string tension charts to get the some feel or tension you are used to or like. 03. When you go to different string gauge the intonation point may change, especially the low E string and changing intonation on an acoustic is not nearly as easy on an electric. I think the larger the gauge the more the bridge point move backward for good intonation. Nice playing I stole your riff ;-).
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice and watching!
@dobbsguitar
@dobbsguitar 4 жыл бұрын
Chris, your video today is much appreciated. Glad to hear the differences between brands/types. Tommy Emmanuel recommends changing brands or types of strings once in a while to keep the guitar from establishing a 'memory' of one type. He also recommends finding your own favorites that work well for you and your guitar, rather than following other's opinions.
@angelg8445
@angelg8445 4 жыл бұрын
Love Tommy, but I've never actually heard that ab the strings and guitar 'memory'....it sounds possible I guess, but if u vary ur playing enough wouldn't that work to vibrate guitar? Also if the guitar gets 'used' to one set of strings/one tension etc. wouldn't that be better for the instrument? ..... Maybe? but im fairly certain, Tommy knows guitars pretty well. So if that is what he says I would tend to defer to him. Its honestly a pain to restring so much, I have two small body solid wood acoustics,, and I spread the time playing each so the strings don't ware as fast(also although I play several hours every day Im not a professional musician making money). If I had to order more than one type of strings just to change them I either gotta re-string them or get them to a tech at a local shop, which costs $$/time and now during Covid its not optimal. 2cents. Have a good day. Be safe/healthy
@Mike-zm8pm
@Mike-zm8pm 4 жыл бұрын
This was probably the best string breakdown I have found. Outstanding idea and job! Thanks for doing it! Those Martin Monels sound amazing on my DSS-17.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
No problem! Thanks for watching!
@Ziggy695
@Ziggy695 3 жыл бұрын
Nickel Bronze..just wow. Stunning sound
@redson425
@redson425 4 жыл бұрын
Really good video, thanks for going to the effort to put this out. I use Elixir 23/53 Nanoweb on most of my guitars for most of the reasons you mention, but use 11/52 on a couple and I've got 10/47 on my main guitar as it allows older fingers to bend easier. There is a massive difference in volume but plugged in they stand up well. An excellent point re using the strings that was on the guitar when you bought it as thats the sound you fell in love with. Thanks again for the effort.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@brucecrow1142
@brucecrow1142 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid Chris & team! Can tell it was a lot of work - have watched several "strings videos" but this one is now bookmarked for reference... Thanks for enriching the San Antonio music community; always enjoy visiting your stores!
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
@spiritriderhd
@spiritriderhd 4 жыл бұрын
I was quite surprised with the D'addario strings, very responsive and bright. Martin actually sounds like a Martin. Can see the Martin Quality and mellow sound. Elixers, which I have used for years, were no surprise and with the Taylor was a classic Taylor sound. Might have to step outside the box and try some of the D'addario strings just to change it up a bit. Thanks Chris for a great demo.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! For sure give some other strings a try!
@ltselse5127
@ltselse5127 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! I finally can figure out what is the impact of the strings. More subtle than I expected. Super work, as usual.
@jlbf0786
@jlbf0786 3 жыл бұрын
Love elixers, been using them for so many years its hard to settle for something else
@jonrembo576
@jonrembo576 3 жыл бұрын
Same here...
@heidi1348
@heidi1348 2 жыл бұрын
Have used D´Addario Ex light for years on my nearly 40 year old Yamaha FG 200. After this test I will try out Elixir!
@mikemcquade5431
@mikemcquade5431 3 ай бұрын
I tend to use Elixir 11s. I tend to use phosphor bronze. It I have used 80/20. I seldom use a pick so I like the finger style playing. The sound is a little deeper , not as bright as a pick.. I have also used D’addrios, but I think Elixir more often. Great video.. thanks.
@IcanhearClemFandango
@IcanhearClemFandango 7 ай бұрын
Good one to watch while changing strings. Mine looked good still, but the guitar had begun to sound 'blah', and I was favoring my other one. Much better now.
@debmurray2734
@debmurray2734 4 жыл бұрын
This vid is so timely ... Thank you for all the time you invested in it. I have a Taylor 224e deluxe and loved the strings it came with. But no one could tell me what strings were on it so I tried the medium gauge elixr nanoweb. Nope, not happy with them and seemed to deaden quite quickly. I heard Madison Cunningham say she liked d'addario flat tops so I am trying them next. They sounded great here on your vid. I was surprised at the XL gauge - I liked them as well.
@johnthornton4266
@johnthornton4266 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a Taylor 214ce from Zzsounds two months ago. Definitely came with either Elixer or DiAddario version of coated strings. It maybe that the strings were good and worn in when you got it. When you put new strings on the sound hasn't "mellowed" yet. Or I could be completely wrong. Just a thought
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!! So glad we could help you out!
@leinonibishop9480
@leinonibishop9480 Жыл бұрын
i love the retro strings and i was surprised by the deeper sound of the 13s! i play a smaller parlor size guitar so i'm afraid 13s would be too much for it. i just put some Martin Marquis silked phospher bronze 11s it on and they sound really warm and mellow. cool comparison.
@titusrider7948
@titusrider7948 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding, comprehensive and beautifully mic'd video. Great job controlling all the variables to achieve max consistency in the evaluations 😊
@paulcarroll6995
@paulcarroll6995 4 жыл бұрын
for me its the Elixirs!! Best bass and Treble and a nice scooped mid sound.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Big fan of them!
@kippsguitar6539
@kippsguitar6539 2 жыл бұрын
Sound crap to me
@StefanGBucher
@StefanGBucher 4 жыл бұрын
The only really significant difference I could hear were the Phosphor Bronze (D'Addario) EXTL at 15:45. I'm using Santa Cruz low tension strings, but at the end of the day, all my money will continue to go to lessons.
@AlamoMusic
@AlamoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Lessons are important!
@scottlassiter4244
@scottlassiter4244 3 жыл бұрын
I was so happy to find this only to get to the demo and hear only finger picking! But very well done, since I pick 95% of the time I wish I could have heard some strumming.
@texhaines9957
@texhaines9957 2 жыл бұрын
Couple new things: Stringjoy now has coated phosphor bronze, and there are Santa Cruz low and medium tension strings. The Santa Cruz sound good and last long. I don't know how long the Stringjoy last as I've just put them on. Then there are the Martin Titanium core...not sure what they do but cost $$ and come on some high end Martin's.
@kauaikid1
@kauaikid1 9 ай бұрын
I've gone back and forth with medium Elixirs and D'Addarios on my Larrivee D-03 & D-05. I tried a set of Stingjoys, and I love them. I tried both phosphor bronze and the new coated strings, and I now use the coated strings only. They last a helluva lot longer, and the guitars both are in love with them as well! I tried the rest, and I now have the best.
@joshuahendrickson4854
@joshuahendrickson4854 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for such a great video. Hearing all the diffwithent kinds of strings was very interesting. I’m totally blind and I only use medium 13 56 gage strings. The only way I play my guitars is with my fingers and no picks. The piece used to demo the strings was very good. I have never liked the sound of lighter gage strings. The strings always had tinny sound that I have never cared for. The intro at the beginning of the video was very informative as well.
@iCodeForBananas
@iCodeForBananas 7 ай бұрын
Such an incredible help this channel has been in my guitar journey.
@BrianWMay
@BrianWMay Жыл бұрын
Fascinating, thank you for taking all that trouble to give us an informed opinion. Truth is after a lifetime around aircraft engines, ALL the strings sounded good. Just about to load a set of Retros Custom Lights on my CEO-7 so we'll see.
@TheSingingDoctor325
@TheSingingDoctor325 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of time went into making this video - thank you for doign this.
@lc6853
@lc6853 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, motivated me to change the strings on my Taylor myself back to what Taylor recommends for the BBT, the Elixir Nanoweb 12/53. Now that beautiful bright sound is back. Thanks Alamo!
@charlesbush4100
@charlesbush4100 Жыл бұрын
I do a lot of finger picking. The flat tops sounded really crisp even on the lower notes. Thanks for the tip.
@nesta8518
@nesta8518 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve found string gauge to be most important. Experimenting is key. I feel my guitars have gauge preferences.
@donalddenison8896
@donalddenison8896 3 жыл бұрын
Been picking guitar, mostly Bluegrass style, since the late '50's. The new Martin Monel mediums or the Tony Rice endorsed Monel set of strings work well for almost anything, for some guitars, I like the GHS Vintage Bronze mediums, especially for instruments that tend to be too bright in tone. Use medium gauges if possible and if the guitar is built strongly enough. Avoid like the plague anything lighter than medium gauges unless your guitar FOR CERTAIN was built with light gauges in mind. Perhaps most important, is to be sure your hands are clean and dry when you take the instrument out of the case, and be sure that you wipe down the strings when the guitar goes back in the case. If medium gauges are hard on the finger tips, practice/play more, they will toughen up. Some players who I respect have told me that the Preparation H cream applied to the finger tips will speed the toughening up process, but I can not personally testify to this. Don't be afraid to change strings frequently, great savings can be realized by buying in larger quantities by mail order. Please be careful when installing the strings and their ball ends on the top/bridge/bridge plate, the replacement of the bridge plate inside and under the bridge and top is not only expensive, but it will most likely change your sound for the worse. Be careful how you seat the string ball end into the pin holes and against the bridge pins, easy does it. Unless your body chemistry and perspiration is corrosive, strings will most likely last for a week or better especially if the strings are wiped down and played with clean hands without too much natural oils and perspiration left on the strings. Be careful in changing strings, be sure they are seated properly, and wound properly on the tuners, there is lots of tension on strings and extra care in changing them will extend the life of not only the strings, but of the guitar as well.
@natalirivero467
@natalirivero467 Жыл бұрын
I wish you've compared lights to custom-lights (12-53 to 11-52), this was the reason I searched for the video in the first place haha. Great video though, and appreciate the work, restringing that guitar so many times doesn't sound fun xD
@JesseJuup
@JesseJuup 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a million for this! Those flatwounds were an eyeopener! I would never have tried them myself, and I liked them a lot.
@jamesritchie-k3d
@jamesritchie-k3d 6 ай бұрын
I'm elderly and in order to delay dementure I started to learn the Guitar. I bought a Fender Stratocaster (not in the best shape) and started practising wiyh the help of a friend. I started with 10's and suffered finger pains not just tips and decided to go to 9's , that was a good choice for now as I can relax more and not worry about fingers. To me the sound quality is the same. Relax if you can.
@KingJames61
@KingJames61 2 жыл бұрын
Brother, you are a blessing. Thanks so much for the information. I bought a Taylor 214 plus a year ago and your channel has been a great help.You are great at what you do! 👍
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