The Problem with Import Guitars

[@drothberg3]

For years, my main guitar was an Alvarez Yairi dreadnaught, based on on a D28. It didn’t need a setup when I bought it in 1973; it was perfectly setup and remained that way. It never needed a setup or any other service for 50 years to the day I sold it in 2022. That must have been some well-seasoned wood!

[@ryanbloom1738]

That's a rad guitar.

[@jabomiles6947]

Yairi Guitars are not your common run of the mill mass produced units. They are top tier from the get go.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Well, the climate where you keep it can make a big difference too. But as a luthier for over 4 decades, I have had many Alvarez's come through and the older ones (Made in Japan) rarely had any significant problems. There have even been a few that sounded much better than any martin or other high end brands, and really acoustics are already hit or miss in that regard to begin with. Alvarez/Yairi seamed to have paid good attention to detail. Not so much anymore, on their lower priced ones, but the higher priced ones are still great, partially because the company took a dive when it was bought, but either the guy who started it bought it back, or the owner commissioned him and his crew to take over production and setup... of the high end instruments again, and sure enough they are back on the map.

[@dalecoffing8655]

if a blind hog roots long enough he'll find an acorn.

[@TomasAWalker53]

Yairi was well known for having collected wood all his career as a luthier and then a company owner. To this day there is a stockpile of his being cherry picked for their made in japan Alvarez Yairi line.

[@texhaines9957]

Comments on buying from China: I listened to my Dad and bought American, supporting American workers. Until Dana Bourgeois did a deal with Eastman, and brought out the Touchstone Series of Bourgeois guitars . It caused me to look at Eastman guitars. As Chris mentioned, I'm not looking at the lower cost instruments. I have seen some nice Eastman guitars and bought one with a varnish finish.

[@bens3767]

My east ac122 1ce is all solid wood and is not made in America bought it for 300.00 bucks used like new and it was worth twice that. I love the sound of my Eastman

[@eddieellis677]

@@bens3767 I have an Eastman AC222CE that has been amazing. I'll never sell it. Recently I changed the setup to match the Ernie Ball Earthwood light strings and it's now it is the easiest and most natural feel I have ever played.

[@jeffmccorkle7013]

Do a report on the problems with expensive American made guitars. Mine has had 3 set ups done and 2 loose binding repairs in 5 yrs. Now it has a crack in the side. No such problems with the 4 imports I have owned. There are some guitar snobs out there. I meet them when I'm dropping off my "good one" at the repair shop.

[@Wobbz9413]

Simple solution. Dont buy overpriced american garbage. Buy from quality companies like Yamaha etc. Some of the top line Yamahas, made in Japan, are virtuaĺy unbeatable for tone feel and finish.

[@stuco]

@@Wobbz9413 I like Yamaha but would strongly disagree that Collings, PRS, Martin, Santa Cruz, Suhr, Larrivee, Bourgeois, etc are "garbage".

[@WoodworkerDan]

In 1985 I bought a Yamaha FG 460S, a higher end model at the time, that was made in Taiwan. Within a few weeks the neck (nato wood) warped, so I exchanged it. The replacement guitar was better, but over the next few years its neck warped, so I had a guitar tech flatten it with a heat treatment. That was about 27 years ago, and it has been fine ever since.

[@DVCVMVS]

In my experience, as an end consumer, much of this is caught by reputable dealers. I've had a Dean acoustic, made in Korea, for over 20 yrs and have never had an issue with it. I also own a Fender Paramount and it's a great guitar, albeit without the refinement of more expensive guitars. The common thread is that I bought them both from well-regarded dealers.

[@mbchrono3]

I bought a Martin D-10E at the beginning of the year, and within a few weeks (I live in Salt Lake) the neck had warped. Had to take it back unfortunately. I picked up a Yamaha A3R to replace it. I was a bit concerned because it was built in China, but it's been a fantastic guitar so far! This video is very helpful in understanding why some of these defects come up. Thanks!

[@visualadventuresaus8985]

Yeah I have the same Yamaha great guitar

[@dmar3651]

I've heard similar stories about the D10-E. Which is weird since the DRS1 and DRS2 models did not have these same issues....and they're meant to be Essentially the Exact same guitar, just with upgraded electronics and esthetics. What happened?

[@raymondst.pierre4372]

Martins and warped necks go hand in hand..my USA 00-18 has one, too.

[@Calatriste54]

My first guitar was a 71, or so Alvarez-Yari bought used in 74. Deluxe abalone Dred.. like a Martin 045. Beautiful, resilient, stable. Till 82. Was a beauty.. a glory to behold and play.

[@damianbarramedajr7458]

as a beginner, i bought a yamaha ac1m for $500 and its playability (especially the action) and sound quality is so much better than my more expensive martin (gpc all solid) and taylors (2 gs minis and a 214ce). my yamaha ac1m is now my favorite.

[@alexdenton6586]

It really depends on a case-by-case basis. For me, I import Tokai Premium Series guitars that are manufactured in Japan, as well as Navigator guitars ( ESP's custom shop for the Japanese market ). The quality of these guitars is consistently exceptional, which is why I choose to import them. I'm not saying this to denigrate anyone, but I find that not only they are of much better quality, but also cheaper than all those American brands

[@ratwynd]

I have a modern MIJ Gretsch 6128T and a vintage 1972 Aria Pro II TA-70. Both are superior to anything except the best USA made top end instruments in fit and finish as well as sound. My other Asia made stuff is almost as good but are all higher end products. D'Angelico and Eastwood mostly. My only beef with some is the finish materieals are sometimes pretty thick and heavy. Guitar shops in Tokyo and Osaka are awesome! Stuff you will never see here.

[@markb3758]

I have bought three guitars in my short time playing. Two were from China ( a Breedlove and a PRS SE series) and one was made in Mexico (Fender Stat). All were medium priced guitars. I have found the quality and the setup to be great. The import guitars can be quite good. I'd love to buy American, but can't justify the expense as a novice guitarist.

[@mouseanalyse]

Strange. “Import guitar” is a concept that is relative to where you are geographically. All USA made guitars are imports if you live outside of the US, like here in the EU. So all of the discussed topics apply universally. Interesting vid nonetheless. Very useful.

[@TomasAWalker53]

You could say he’s speaking as a member of a western nation as you are. The import market discussed here is the Eastern Asian supply of guitars. Don’t buy Chinese.

[@MarkEaster]

Just think Martin guitars use to be an import guitar to the Europeans. ❤

[@TomasAWalker53]

You’re correct sir‼️In the strictest definition, all guitar manufacturers ship worldwide and so, yes Martin Guitars are imports from the USA.

[@advantagehealth5030]

I have a China manufactured Yamaha A1R.. Great guitar and has held up nicely. Sounds better than the 214 Taylor I owned (by a mile).

[@TomasAWalker53]

@@advantagehealth5030 If price is an important consideration for you, then buying a Made in China Yamaha is one way to do that. But in light of their horrible human rights failures and the pollution they’ve created , among many more damaging costs of doing business. I owned an Epiphone D100. It had an all laminate body and soundboard top and bottom purfling and along the fingerboard . It sounded good and was a perfect campfire guitar. I paid about $150. Canadian for it and compared to other markets I just couldn’t understand how they could do that. Assuming a typical 100 percent mark up, that must mean it cost them $75. shipping included from Hong Kong or some other port across the Pacific Ocean to N. America. Like I said it was a decent guitar and would cost much much more if built by Gibson in Bozeman, Montana⁉️🤔 Even if they built a perfect replica of the D-100 using Epiphone parts. But it comes at a cost for somebody who won’t enjoy the lifestyle that a Gibson employee would.

[@jamespowers8826]

Good points. As someone who lives a long way from a music store, I have bought a lot of guitars through mail order. The price point didn't seem to matter much. Almost every guitar I've bought had QC issues, regardless of origin. They were sending out guitars with obvious problems. Doesn't seem to matter the U.S. store I ordered them from. They clearly weren't looking at the guitar before shipping it. Over the years I've learned by necessity to correct a lot of QC problems on guitars. But it shouldn't have been necessary.

[@BarndtTom]

When will you make a video about quality issues of USA made guitars? Would be great to hear how lifting Pickguards, nitro laquer coming off, battery compartments not fitting or not coming out and tuning keys not moving can be solved. Not to speak of huge differences between pickup output with pickups from the same manufacturer.

[@dalesearcy5734]

I bought a Guild import Baritone guitar 2 years ago. By the end of the first year, the bridge started to lift. I sent it back and they replaced it under warranty. I had that guitar for about a year and the bridge split across the pin holes. Sent that one back and it was again replaced. So far the new one shows no issues. I agree that these guitars were possibly built too quickly and not seasoned correctly. By the way, these guitars were sent to America without a case.

[@1davidpeter]

Thanks for the video and advice. We’ve always been happy with Yamaha as a maker of good trumpets and excellent digital pianos at an attractive good value for money price. This went on for our kids first guitars. After hearing your similar good experience of their guitars we got one an A3R direct from Yamahas London place over the phone. It made a beautiful Christmas present and performs great, so although made in a ccp factory, the high standards of Japan came through.

[@rexrathtar3893]

I have several electrics but just one acoustic. The acoustic was made in Canada in the Godin factory and it's high quality and was a nice price. Haven't felt any need to look for another model.

[@Fotosaurus56]

I feel the same way about my Art & Lutherie Americana acoustic. I quit looking after I bought one.

[@stuco]

Can't really beat godin for quality to price ratio, especially used.

[@Epiphone100]

Really sorry to say this but I am from the UK and have had a few issues with brand new US Gibson and Martin guitars over the years !!

[@CameraLaw]

I have some wonderful new and vintage guitars from America, Germany, Spain, Japan, and Korea. All have benefited from a nearby luthier’s keen eyes and ears. He had the most trouble leveling the frets on a new American Martin 000-15SM. But, wow, it’s a gem now! An absolute fingerpicker’s dream. But … when I searched the serial number on Martin’s site, I learned that the date of manufacture was 2016. So, even though I purchased it online from a very respected store, and even though their expert set it up, it may have sat on the wall or shelf for some years. Having someone who can troubleshoot a new guitar has been a key to having a tip top collection.

[@johnlord1399]

Always enjoy your insights and opinions, Chris, because it’s obvious that you take the time to inform yourself. I miss your podcasts, and hope you and Cooper can put together some new ones soon.

[@kromedge]

I currently own a Yamaha A5R that was hand made in Japan. I also have a Fender T-Bucket 300CE that was made in China. Neither guitar had any issues. Having said that, I used to own a Martin 000-17e that had nothing but issues (bracing becoming unglued, belly bulge, cracked bridge and some fret sprout) and that guitar was expensive. It also paled in sound and playability compared to the Yamaha A5R. After owning the A5R, it’s doubtful that anyone could ever talk me into buying another Martin - period. The Fender is an inexpensive laminate guitar that sounds like pure crap compared to the Yamaha but it has a really nice neck so I keep it for camping and fishing trips as well as messing around with alternate tunings. I live in Canada and all my guitars are stored in a constant 45% humidity year round.

[@gammaraygem]

Got me an Eastman D28 copy recently...2000 dollars...curious how long it will last...it sounds fabulous.

[@enforcer41]

I just sold me Eastman E20d "d28 copy" after 10 years of trouble free ownership, great guitar and now i've ordered a new Eastman.

[@Aartist1]

I bought an Alvarez 5-6 months ago and it was a mid priced, dealer only cedar top. They did a set up right after I purchased the guitar. I looked at the neck and it was perfect to my eyes. I purchased this guitar from my original home town and then took it to another state. I noticed the guitar started sounding different and I looked down the neck and it had a hump where the fretboard met the body. I called that dealer and they told me to bring it in the next time I was in that town. I did go back a few weeks later and took that guitar and those guys told me there was nothing wrong with the guitar. There is. I sent an email to Alvarez and they stated that the guitar just needs to be acclimated. I know that wood is a living thing but I feel that both parties are ignoring the problem. The guitar sounds good still but I constantly have to adjust the truss rod… I loosen one adjustment then tighten on another adjustment a month or so later.. humidifiers are used and I check the hygrometer constantly. Strings have also been changed to lighter gauge 10’s. This guitar probably sat on a ship like you stated and it’s a pain to have to always be messing with it. I love the sound of the cedar top but hope that someday it will stabilize

[@robineliason7850]

Something else that plays into this problem is not just how quickly the guitar was made and/or how ling it sat in shipping or on the docks before it got to the point of purchase, but the final destination after purchase. I live in the desert southwest, humidity is a real issue -we run 8 -15% most of the year, with the average being 11%. I gotta say, things made out of wood do not love us, even with attempts at humidifying. And, it is not something that a beginner generally knows to do, or how to do it. Another point in favor of buying from a local dealer, they can alert you to regional issues like this, as well as general guitar care.

[@sseel2877]

I purchased a Yamaha FG 800 about a year ago, played it for a while but kept getting a weird noise out of it. One day I noticed what appeared to be a hairline crack in the neck. Sure enough I put pressure on it an there was a large but hard to see crack. But man, I give Yamaha credit, I took a picture, provided sales receipt and within two weeks I had a brand new guitar in my hands. I could tell the sound difference right away. Hard to beat Yamaha if you have to purchase a lower end Chinese made guitar as a beginner. I imagine their Japanese made guitars have to be great.

[@sculptureshard377]

Great comments and words of wisdom. I work on el-cheapos and leave quality instruments for the professionals. The el-cheapos that suffer from these problems are generally unplayable and need neck resets and bridges reglued after a short space of time, the cost of which exceeds purchase price. Lesson learned, don't buy an el-cheapo. Get a quality instrument that lasts a lifetime.

[@fourocker]

I'm in Australia and all three of my acoustic guitars are imported, one from Canada, one from Korea and one from China, the prettiest is the Chinese one and it sounds and plays pretty good, the best sounding is the Korean one which is also the oldest and it's nicely made, the Canadian one plays the best and is rock solid in construction, I wish I could find all three attributes in one guitar and get rid of my collection of ordinary guitars, I recently saw something on Kremona guitars, made in Bulgaria, solid spruce top, laminated Ovangkol body (among others) they sound great, look nice, appear to be highly regarded for construction quality and being laminated body should be stable, the M20 or R30 dreadnought would probably be what I'd buy, oh the pricing is fair, not cheap but not really expensive either, this is a good video to ponder all the aspects of finding the right guitar.

[@yelddoswell9292]

Bought a Guild 12 string with a hard shell case back in 1970 . The first guitar that the salesman brought me a Guild 12 string that was a warped neck and that was a new guitar.

[@BaktaBak3]

We have a couple Fender (China made ) early model acoustic electric Paramount Parlor guitars. They came with a nice hard shell case. Bought new, 7-8 yrs ago . Came set up perfectly out of the box. Never a problem with them, they stay in tune, gig ready/reliable guitars.

[@nfrantnik]

I have a takamine a Ashton and a Cort acoustic guitars over 15 years and they play heavenly

[@charlottesimonin2551]

Bought a National Brand imported guitar that was comparatively inexpensive that was damaged during shipping or perhaps as it was packaged, Because I worked with a national distributor similar to Alamo I was able to get a replacement within a couple of weeks, I doubt that many other dealers would have been so accommodating,

[@TimothyBarrymusic]

Two things: the Chinese guitars in particular, and I’m citing both Guild and especially Eastman have a superior quality and attention to detail than most of the traditional American brands for less than HALF the price!! For example: Last year I bought two Gibson vintage reproductions of old models for $4000 apiece and they couldn’t even match up the sides at the back and the pick guards are ALREADY coming up!!!Then I look at my $$1600 Eastmans and the quality is almost as superior as a custom built guitar. As a matter of fact, a few years ago, I sold a $5000 custom-made Bourgeois OM and replaced it with a $900 Chinese Guild OM where the sound and playability were as good or better than the custom made guitar. I’m an old Gibson guy and basically I’m ashamed of their lack of commitment to quality, and their endless trading on their old name and reputation. Quality and value are KING! Within the last year I’ve purchased FIVE Eastmans and the quality on each is exceptional. American makers need to step up their game or end up losing long term customers like me. There’s a new game in town and the old school American brands better get with it or be left behind in the dust. Taylor and Martin are still holding up…Gibson (acoustics) not so much…

[@77guitarts22]

Agree, I must add Cort Gold series that are amazing and very reliable, reinforced neck and wonderful woods selection. My Gold O6 sounds great, owned it for a couple of years and only plays and sounds better.

[@dalecoffing8655]

Epiphone Sheraton II pro, Tak G series 12 string, Martin D10e, Rickenbacker 660/12. 3 out of 4 are foreign made. Takamine, I have had for over 15 years. It has needed some attention a couple times. It has had the bridge worked on, bracing re-glued, and it has been "plecked". (It was my main ax in church.) The Martin is the newest. Nicest of any 6 string I;ve ever played. No problems other than a truss rod adjustment. (It was a Sweetwater purchase.) The Epiphone (purchased used at GC) had to have a total set up and bone nut installed. Great player and lots of great tones. The Rickenbacker.....it's a great player period.

[@anthonyb2334]

Chris, over the years your channel has been extremely helpful. This is another great video. I've had so many of the experiences you detail in my 60 years of guitar playing. From my experience, there are well made imports, like the Yamaha you hold, or others like Breedlove, Eastman, and Alvarez. But your generally spending $400 to $800 for decent quality. Not Martin or Taylor quality, but something that plays well and holds up. Great video. Thank you

[@SedatKulafofski-eh5pc]

I own a beautiful Corona made 2016 Fender Skyburst Metallic Elite Strat. In 2018, I spent 2 weeks in a very dry room in barracks with the guitar and when I got home, the guitar had a very bad case of fret sprout. I was surprised at the caliber of guitar having such an issue after doing some research into the problem. Was a little disappointed that a guitar at that price point would use "green" wood.

[@LifeSavingDefense]

I just picked up a Amazon $100 Linden Wood / Basswood P guitar for $30… with the expectations just to learn more on a guitar I can physically change unlike the Lyle cedar C-650 I picked up for $20 They both sound Really good but the P guitar has the metal strings and I’m thinking of switching to nylon.. The neck is really strait but I’d like to keep it that way as long as possible. I got it mainly for my 5yo granddaughter so if she bangs on it then it doesn’t matter.. It makes sound when you bang on it too.

[@poison7512]

I have several US made guitars PRS/ESP/Kiesel/G&L.. but I recently purchased a Yamaha RSS20 and it easily hangs with the ESP USA and PRS stuff in literally every regard. Even the pickups are surprisingly boutique PAF sounding.

[@LucasHaneman]

Nice video and though I agree that these things may be issues, they were more common in the past. Quality control overseas has gotten much much better. If you guys get A chance you should check out some Eastman guitars. To me they are completely changing the game of what import guitars can be. I own two of them along with a few small shop luthier built acoustics. Yes the small shop guitars are better, but the Eastmans really punch way above their price point. Amazing fret work/tuning stability/tone Of course it goes without saying you get what you pay for if you’re buying a guitar from Amazon, first act or the like. Some companies definitely have not stepped it up when it comes to import acoustic guitars, but Yamaha and Eastman, just to name a couple certainly have in a huge way.

[@gammaraygem]

I agree. I went to a small dealer in high end acoustics, aiming for a European handbuilt, Furch or Dowina, and he had a range of Eastmans from 500 to 2000 dollars. Amazing, to hear the sound get better the more expensive they got. Got a topnotch D28 copy and could not be happier. Still, time will tell if it holds up in quality to my precious Lowden O12, which is just incredible. Super light, and indestructible.

[@frederickthompson8686]

Every Martin Guitar I've owned eventually became unplayable over time. So much for quality and expensive neck-resets. My response? Buy less expensive acoustics -- PRS SEs, Yamahas, etc, -- and just throw 'em away when they fail.

[@AngelPerez-vr3qd]

How?

[@sandoncrowder7839]

It's probably due to humidity, no guitar should become unplayable unless the wood is exposed to extremes in temperature and humidity

[@dmar3651]

Overseas brands are getting good reputation these days. Furch and Eastman guitars have been really popping up in the market as if late. Orange wood has also found a place in the lower end market. Their tone isn't the best, but the combined package of what you get, for the price...isn't bad at all. Especially for beginners. That said, Chris is right. Go with proven models from trusted makers. For any beginner, I'd always recommend the Yamaha FS800 or FG800. They will last you for years, no problem.

[@peterfritsch4736]

As he pointed out, European guitars usually come at a different price point. Furch produces great instruments, I own their 'Little Jane' travel guitar and it is a very well made and great sounding guitar. But at a much higher price point than any Asian low cost imports.

[@Tigerex966]

Shipping and humidity and possibility of slave or unskilled labor. However it depended on the manufacture and those they contract to etc.

[@jimgeorger4452]

Good information. Exceptions always exist, but economlcs rule in the long run, and it is good to know where the shortcuts, or supply chain factors come into play. Thanks!

[@bongocuba]

I own 3 Yamahas; AC5R, FGX5 and FG300C. No issues whatsoever.

[@SteveMiller-yw7kv]

I don't know how many people on here are aware of the Mayson line of guitars..I just picked up a solid Engelmann spruce top with solid mahogany back and sides and is one sweet playing instrument..I paid around 800 for this China made guitar..and it is quickly becoming my favorite..

[@ektalon1]

The only thought that I had on Chris' comments is that if a problem arises due to shipping delays-on the boat or on the dock would be the same for higher-end guitars as well as cheaper guitars. Prior to the pandemic imported Asian guitars were having a golden moment of improved and consistent quality. At the beginning of the pandemic, I bought a no-name (Glarry) electric Strat style that was ridiculously inexpensive and a mid-priced Alvarez acoustic. Both needed minimal setup. The tech that I brought them to services super high-end antique and collector guitars said the Glarry "sounds like a strat," and he was impressed by the Alvarez, especially given the price. I imagine that things will revert to the way things were as time goes on.

[@steby123]

25 years in music retail; Preach it brother Chris !!!!!

[@vegaa.1645]

What are peoples thoughts on Eastman guitars? Looking to purchase an Ac 422 solid spruce top with solid Indian Rosewoood back and sides?

[@macstil585]

Just bought my second yesterday ..DoubleTop..Incredible sustain..workmanship 2nd to none..the Romero also is amazing..recommend highly

[@nicolen.9642]

I've had import guitars first. Budget types. I've learned how to play them, changing/trading in the guitars I had. Cort, Yamaha, Washburn, Lag, Takamine, lol. All MIC. Never had them long enough to have them act. I finally settled for my long waited for Martin 000-15M and a Godin made in Canada parlor. My Martin blew them all. So sweet. Back in the day I didn't know much about the anatomy of a guitar. Now I do. (I remember your Amazon video...😁) Your video is very insightful and should help beginners. Thanks for your review, Chris.

[@chrishammonds72]

Out of 6 guitars I own 2 of them are made in China, 1 in Indonesia and 1 in Mexico. As a Aussie most guitars are import guitars for us besides the few Australian manufacturers.

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

I'd gladly pay 20-30 bucks for an (extra?) visual inspection of a low budget/affordable guitar to prevent buying a guitar with noticeable flaws (which is not the same as a set-up). I did buy a couple of affordable guitars that clearly were not checked in any way between arriving from the far East and shipping to me.

[@skateborg]

This is a great episode full of very relevant info for us guitar buyers out there. Thanks Chris! Have you guys ever demo-reviewed the Harley Benton Custom Line Dreadnoughts? Their prices at Thomann are crazy affordable.

[@happytrails1963]

Novice guitar player here purchased Yamaha fs830 maybe 5 months ago and its been terrific for beginnner. Recently bought Epiphone Hummingbird 12 string and it also is a great guitar. Both purchases influence by your video reviews. Maybe I am lucky to have no issues. As someone just learning it possibly make more sense for me to watch how much I spend on guitars. If still enjoying guitar in awhile longer then would feel better about a more expensive brand guitar made in US.

[@Wobbz9413]

You wont have many issues with Yamaha! Such a great brand, with awesome quality control. All my guitars where made in asia. No problems.

[@hervegeorges]

I think you were right 20 years ago but things have changed a lot. Not only with CNCs but also they do a lot of R&D in China factories like in any factories. I had a solid guitar Seagul made in Canada and i bought an Artist serie Alvarez with solid top but not the higher end. The Alvarez is way better. I can tell you that all the famous guitarists did not start with guitars as good as the guitar from China now. With a price range from 300 to 400 bucks you can buy a very nice guitar to start learning. below that, get a used one for 200 bucks. Many people buys guitar and give up after a couple of months. So you can get very nice guitar barely used for a bargain, just ask a musician to check it before you buy it.

[@anthonynicholls1813]

Good video Chris. Reading some of the comments below I would caution against viewing all factory's and workshops in Asia as one and the same. Samick, Cort and WMIC certainly produce huge volumes of guitars under outsource arrangements but there are more than 40 independent guitar workshops' in China and Indonesia. Quality and business culture differs widely and Eastman are a shining example of quality hand crafted guitars, made in China and available across various price points (ask Dana Bourgeois). Interesting point about the pandemic and production pressures - but who was exerting the pressure on the outsourced builders to up production?

[@matthewmacdonald9851]

We, the market consumers, were applying pressure on production because of 2 reasons: There were lots of people spending lots more time than usual at home who wanted to play more than usual, and this increased demand for products occurred at precise the same time that supply chain workers were not only overburdened with more work, moving more guitars and other products than usual through the supply chain, but also were overwhelmed with such a huge uptick in activity when any coworkers catching the latest highly communicable virus meant had to stay home a minimum of 10 days.

[@p-dru2205]

Very informative video - thank you. If I ever shop for a new guitar again I will go into the process far more informed thanks to you. I had noticed the rough frets on the side of the neck on other guitars but never knew why they were that way. And also thank you for pointing out that, even though the guitar you are holding is a Yamaha made in China - and a decent one, not all Yamahas are created equal. I have been nothing but thrilled with my A5R from the day I first picked it up.

[@jed1166]

I recently bought a Chinese built Alvarez 8 string,(octave strings on the D & G), standard scale Grand Auditorium, because no USA made, standard scale 8 string was available, and I wanted to try this configuration. At $569, I knew it would need a setup. But, the nut slots were barely cut, so the strings were so high at the first and second fret, that first position chords were unplayable. After a setup, I chose the string gauges/ tuning that I would use, then took it back for a final cut on the nut slots to get the action down where I wanted it. Now plays nice, and sounds beautiful… tons of fun! So, I have ordered Taylor 9 string from their custom shop, and will sell the Alvarez…. I really like the 8 string format, but will switch to the 9 string, so I can get a USA built guitar. And yes Chris, I am typing on a Chinese made IPad, because for many years, no iPads were built elsewhere. But IPads and IPhones will soon come out of new Foxxcon factories being built in India, and I will switch immediately. I lived in China for 13 years, and this experience makes me avoid Chinese made products when possible. From point blank range, I witnessed Xi’s hatred of America, and everything it stands for😢… BTW, my #1 guitar is a USA built RainSong.

[@tjsponik]

Chris, one thing I've noticed from a repair guy's standpoint is some of the real inexpensive guitars are made with weaker/inferior woods. This especially shows up in anything with a slant (Gibsonesque) headstock. If a company only offers $75 guitars in opaque color finishes, watch out! They're hiding something!

[@francischang]

My biggest problem with Chinese import guitars is that US dealers don't stock enough of them. There is nowhere in New York City, where I can try out a high end Eastman or Kepma acoustic. So far, my experience with Chinese guitars has been great. I bought two Chinese guitars during the pandemic - a $1400 Eastman and a sub$200 Eart. Both have been great and I've found the neck to be more stable than my Gibson Custom Shop Les Paul.

[@combolife]

I think a lot of what was said is common sense…paying more for a product you expect to get a better build quality. I also agree that if the guitar requires lengthy transportation, then this could also affect it. Here’s my question, for those who live in Asia, would it be better to buy a China, Indonesia, Korean guitar, rather than a US, Mexico one?

[@firebald2915]

I've been playing Yamaha since I heard and played my cousin's FG 300 Yamaha acoustic guitar back in 1973. They got it from their mom to share amongst the 3 of them. They still play it. To this day, they purchased other Yamaha's and swear to their durability seeing they gig outdoors most of the time. However, I still desired a Martin. I loved their roaring bass and clear mids but I couldn't afford one. So I went electric / acoustic with a Samick, with a Korg board and a Shadow electric with tunable pots ( pickups ) and still that Martin was out of my reach. Bought a 800 series YAMAHA with a Fender Mustang and still....not a Martin. Then the FSTA Transacoustic caught my eye... And now this is the Martin I've always wanted. Sure, the electronics are a marvel but played without... Yeah, sounds and plays just like a Martin. Quality build and can stand some pretty harsh conditions up here in the always changing weather conditions in Michigan. It holds tune all the time. They make a great guitar for what I could afford. I own a Jay Turser LP and a Squire strat. Great instruments also. They are what I could afford and that keeps me playing and happy.

[@gregs2466]

Thanks for the information! the cheapest guitar I bought was a Martin DX1E for $580 over 12 years ago and probably at that time, that was a deceit middle priced guitar, and I had no issues except for the two-piece top splitting a bit which was my fault. Since then and as I got intelligent about guitars, the next one I bought was a Taylor 210ce which I paid a bit over $1000.00. Nowadays, a $1000. guitar is lower ended, but it is perfect! The rest of my guitars are a brand-new Epiphone Les Paul MIM, and I have upgraded lots of items in it. I also own a Fender Tele and Strat MIM and they too are very nice but with them, I have replaced the pickups, locking tuners and bridge. Not certain I will ever buy a Fender or Gibson made in America and spend that kind of money. So, I have never experienced what you were talking about in your post, but I have not bought a really cheap guitar.

[@JayPooler]

my 1st guitar was a 50 dollar something fromthe bargin rm at Wards..I no longer have it..sometimes wish I did..I action was high and my fingers bled red..lol 50 bucks back in the mid 70s

[@mortonwilson795]

Interesting and thoughtful analysis / overview. No real argument with anything here but a few thoughts. Clearly well sought out seasoned wood is critical. Eastman & K. Yairi (Japan) know a thing or two about this and their acoustics are testament to their approach - I'm sure there are others. Similarly, for electrics I think Japan, Korea and SOME companies in the PRC are making this a priority - the recent Epiphones & Gretsch guitars strike me as having 'bones'. That said, my gripe with both PRC and Indonesian guitars comes down to the electronics - the pick-ups are sub par and even switching between pick-ups can leave you with a deafening silence. I have a few Epis and the pick-ups are the first thing to go, usually followed by a 50s wiring rig, switchcraft toggle and a bone nut. In each cae this has left me with an instrument that is a fraction of the cost of a Gibson and often of a higher standard (i spend a lot of time at the Epi / Gibson flagship here in HK). I would point out one thing, though that works both ways - the journey across the pacific (or Atlantic) by ship is equally risky for made in USA guitars. When I worked in a leading music shop in NZ in the 70s I used to get first look at any new Gibsons coming in at the importers warehouse and the odd banana neck would appear and I'd recommend they send it straight back to Kalamazoo.

[@SuperEdge67]

Well I’m from Australia and I have no problems with with my IMPORT Fender Telecaster or Martin 00015m. Maton acoustics from Australia are very good and beautifully made guitars available in the US.

[@DennieSparkman]

If you can I think it’s always best to buy from a local shop or it’s worth traveling to a good shop here in the US to purchase a guitar. Instruments from China are not consistent and I’ve had hit and miss issues with them. With Chinese guitars it always seems like coin toss. The point about being there for the customer after the purchase is huge! I just bought two higher end inspired by Gibson Les Paul’s and both had very sharp fret ends and other sketchy issues. The big box online retailer claims to do 55 point inspections but you couldn’t proof it by me. With them your only option is to return within their set time period. You live and learn.

[@ronmoore1219]

Thanks, Chris. I commented that I couldn’t get past the made in China thing. From my iphone. Because of the reason you stated. So I disclaim any hipocracy. My first guitar was a Taylor A10e, so I can’t speak to your request, either. But let me tell you that I appreciate and respect your concern for sll guitar players from all financial situations. I decided on the A10 after watching your video on it and bought it from AJ.

[@iljapolakovs1256]

Good points regarding pandemic. I understand this has to be an issue to think about for those in USA. I have a totally differents story. I'm living in Latvia (Europe), and we don't have a single all solud wood guitar in the local stores. :) So when I thought about buying one all solid wood guitar, I had no other options - import guitar was the only choice. And for me in my place - I have no difference, if it from USA or from Indonesia, because it still would have a risk of being stuck or forgotten for months at some humid place. After a very long time exploring all the options I went for IBG Epiphone Hummingbird. It had to be adjusted a little bit, but I'm 90% sure I would have to do that even with a Gibson in Europe.

[@rob_in_stowmarket_uk]

??? Hi Chris, As of 28 February 2023, why can’t I find ‘Fretboard Confessional’ podcasts later than October ‘22 on ANY podcast provider available in the UK?

[@tokairic3925]

All valid points, but they don't apply universally, but I suppose you have to have an element of luck when buying cheap. I make guitars for a hobby. I bought the cheapest Acasia (like Koa) from Vietnam on ebay, for a top, back and sides - I bought an offcut of mahogany for the neck and end blocks. I bought a piece of ebony for a fretboard of ebay. From this random assortment I built an acoustic guitar - seven years ago. The guitar has been taken camping often and usually sits on a stand in my living room with no special care. Its still straight and still plays well and often. Lucky??

[@aldolente7257]

Eastman dominates in their price point. No one can touch them. They make musical instruments that rival or surpass guitars thousands more. Sire is another one. The neck, fretwork and build rivals guitars twice the cost. DEalers who do not carry them and rely on the overpriced American brands like to bash the imports. Independent reviewers rave about Eastman and Sire

[@BuckFlicks]

I don’t see a new podcast. Most recent one I see is from October. Did you move it to a new spot?

[@joesantamaria5874]

My 1998 Ibanez AR2000VV always was, and is, perfect. Flawless. Great playability, finish, no fret sprout, no nonsense. My recent Squier Classic Vibe 50’s Strat is better than my ‘97 made in the USA model. Notepad for the money, not for an import, in absolute terms, it’s better. Period.

[@Deepseaotter]

Chris, been watching Alamo videos for a few days, and really enjoying them! I have a question for you. I have a couple of guitars that I’m needing to change strings on. I have a Mexican Strat, ash body. I want light strings, but what string do you think would sound great on it? Ok, second guitar is a Yamaha FG- 460 SA. Also want light strings on this. What do you suggest as a good string? Not really interested in coated strings, unless you think otherwise. Look forward to you reply. Thanks! 😊

[@terryjohinke8065]

Good comments and advice.

[@stevestalock3200]

All very good and accurate information! My personal experience runs contrary to these realities. One of my guitars that plays great and maintains its tuning is a low-end Yamaha. I think I just got a mutant that is awesome. It's not quite as good as my Eastman, but that old reliable Yamaha is a great instrument.

[@ansgarness]

Well, it's common on lower end guitars for the reasons Chris explained. But on the other hand, I have to say, I wish my Martin 00018 haven't shown the sadly classic binding issue after 2 years since I bought it. Don't get me wrong: I love my 00018, it sounds and look amazing, one of the best guitar I've had but that issue is really annoying from such an expensive guitar.

[@Nostradarmas]

I bought a mid priced guitar (£850) AUDEN , I only found out after buying that although maker is in UK the guitar had been made in china to there specification , any how , over time I had issues "fret sprout" which went slowly worse , also the action "moved" frequently , I don`t think the wood had been aged correctly ? I ended up selling it as it needed constant adjustment to the bridge and truss rod , as well as constant filing down the fret ends , I have had much cheaper guitars without any of those issues !

[@paulfortman5834]

My limited experience is with two made in China guitars; a $200 Yamaha FS700, and a $300 Cordoba C5. Both seem to be good, well made guitars, but are probably in need of a good set-up. I was at a guitar store looking at a Taylor 3 series (312?), and the Taylor is far superior in every way, well worth 10 times the price. The Taylor played better, sounded better, and looked better. I am considering a Taylor 322 12-fret, or Taylor AD22.

[@theblytonian3906]

Own and play 19 guitars, 4 acoustics, 14 electrics and a bass, proudly not one of them made in America! Thank you China & Indonesia.

[@billyalford7305]

I used to be a furniture dealer and I bought a container of Mahogany furniture from Indonesia and when I opened one of the boxes, a green leaf was growing out of it, LoL

[@paulneedham9885]

In other retail, when a shop gets a below par product they send it back. Why dont guitar shops do the same? The Guitar companies would soon up their game. I shouldnt have to buy a product then pay extra to get it to work properly, even if it is cheap it should be fit for purpose. By the way, I now have 2 Yamahas, one is 39 years old the other is a brand new FG830. I can only say, from my experience, they are excellent. In the 1970´s they only shipped Laminate guitars because of the problems with shipping as you pointed out. Some of those guitars sounded far better than their solid wood counterparts made in The USA.

[@ben-jammin2284]

I own several high end Taylor’s and Martin’s, all of which have had way more issues than my cheaper made in China PRS SE’s and Breedloves etc

[@ryanbloom1738]

My Blueridge Br280 was made it China and it's killer.

[@eddieellis677]

Have the mid-level electric guitars with the dark roasted Maple necks been more stable than average? Or was that just a marketing theory?

[@bobkrause0103]

Very good advice Chris, thank you

[@James-oh1wp]

Not fair to group the different Asian manufacturers into one Entity . Japanese craftsmanship is every bit as good as it is here in the US or Europe . I would also say close to the same for South Korean manufacturing .

[@erxvlog]

...and Indonesia guitars are getting really good.

[@shaneball238]

Really good advice and factual.... and more importantly a very honest view ... newbies take note, basically you get what you pay for (most times) unless you buy second hand. Chris knows his sh*t and we can all learn from him. One day I will buy a guitar from him (and I live in the UK!)

[@LairdDavidson]

I don't live in the USA so those guitars are imports shipped half way round the world for me too. Given the QC issues with likes of Fender and Gibson and American manufacturing in general what can I say? LOL That being said, all of my current guitars are from American companies but not all made there. Buying from a reputable manufacturer is good advice.

[@herewegoagain7403]

most import guitars come from the same factory, which is probably Cort. Their modern manufacturing process is very good and may even be better than the low end American made ones.

[@surrogatesdan]

You literally just described my two newest Fender NON import guitars - a $2K Cory Wong bought in 2021 the week they were released and a MIM Robert Cray strat from 2022 - over $1K. Seasoned wood? Both horrible fret sprout within weeks.

[@davidwonpu353]

Most people start off on a cheap acoustic so I think this issue is intertwined with the fact that new players have no idea what makes a good guitar and how to pick a good one. My advice is to never buy your first guitar sight unseen, because if it’s a lemon, you’ll probably give up. I’ve played incredible Yamahas and Epiphones in the 300-400 range in person.

[@geraldyafchak4365]

Mexico has become less expensive (labor, real estate), and products can get into the USA almost overnight. I'm praying Fender and others will pull out of China and move to Mexico

[@rexrathtar3893]

Fender Player and Vintera guitars are made in Mexio. The acoustics are imported from Asia. The Squier solid bodies as well.

[@flwolf2000]

The import time and circumstances are a big factor indeed! A little luck can also be involved.

[@GRBAquatics]

Very Cool, Thankyou. Found this Interesting, Informative and Entertaining. Cheers

[@MatthewCastro]

I love my inexpensive Yamaha for what it is (my take camping guitar) and my more expensive Yamaha for what it is (a guitar I sometimes gig with). Yamaha is a great great guitar for the price

[@lukesteverything627]

Wow! I love this channel but I was very surprised by many of the comments. I'm in the UK and here we buy loads of import guitars that have travelled great distances, been held up in docks and gone through countless temperature and humidity changes. These are brands like Taylor, Gibson and Fender. Very often they are the same price as UK made guitars but they go through all the price pressures you describe. The wages of the people making these guitars can only be compared to the cost of living. How much disposable income do they have and what can they buy with it etc. Many import brands use the torrification process but there is no evidence that this helps with all the temperature and humid changes they go through in the transportation process. That said, I've got a torrified acoustic from china that is better set up than my Taylor acoustic costing about the same price. I suggest that there shouldn't be such a generalised attitude to imports and each guitar should be valued after inspection, playing and reputation. I still love your videos but I believe great guitars are made all over this world.

[@guyincognito1423]

It will be funny in a couple years when pawn shops will be jam packed with banana necked Harley Bentons and Glarry's. Surprisingly, I've never had a problem with import acoustics. My 20 year old, $125 Ibanez acoustic, which I treat it like a $125 guitar, is still in great playing shape. The soundboard has no cracks or bellies, neck is straight, and the action is good with plenty of room to take it down more. The only problem I ever had was a broken saddle, which was my fault, and a few fret ends popping up, which is an easy fix. Import electrics on the otherhand.... I never owned one that didnt end up with a twisted neck or some other problem like having the wood split through the routing of the tremolo (especially with the 80's japanese squier strats).

[@sgholt]

There is not a person here that doesn't own a Chinese product :p ...I have some very good Chinese made guitars. I guess our weather here in S.A. is actually good for most guitars...I learned how to do fret dressing and crowning...gotta learn how to provide maintenance and setup...

[@JuanDeCarmen]

The Fenders Made in Mexico are import guitars for you in the USA too, for Canadians, Europeans... all my guitars right now are Made in Asia or Made in Spain guitars. PS: your cell phone is an import product too -- probably

[@richardhanscomb8448]

Love Alamo videos. If I lived in the States....Anyway, great video. Very informative. Don't forget the human cost of cheap, cheap guitars. People making them are probably not having a particularly good time. Of course there are great, quality guitars made in China - Auden, Eastman etc

[@sp129]

While I don't disagree with the statements, a more appropriate title would have been "The Problem with Budget Guitars". The affordable segment of import guitars is ultimately a function of price point, not the other way around.