Alan Turing's lost radio broadcast rerecorded

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@MrAlFuture
@MrAlFuture 7 жыл бұрын
It is so sad how Turing was treated. Humanity lost a wonderful mind far too early.
@Nai61a
@Nai61a 7 жыл бұрын
MrAIFuture: I think this is the most important point that arises from the reproduced speech here. It is clear that he is extremely clever - to say the least - and was ENORMOUSLY influential on the modern world. But, unfortunately, he was a homosexual, so that makes him a second class human being - worse still, a "sinner" - and it means we can relegate his contribution to the sidetrack of history. (= irony, in case anybody doesn't understand what I'm saying.)
@EastBurningRed
@EastBurningRed 6 жыл бұрын
Other men (and women) have been treated much more harshly than Turing but didn't kill themselves. His ideas and contributions to computer science is without doubt some of the greatest if not the greatest. However, I very much hold he himself equally responsible for his death as the circumstances he was in.
@wahwong8563
@wahwong8563 6 жыл бұрын
@I'm unsubscribing. For what ? Just because he was gay after all he contributed ? You aren't even entitled to judge him
@nickjonesCSM
@nickjonesCSM 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful to see the British public voting him the greatest icon of the 20th century.
@babarali603
@babarali603 5 жыл бұрын
@Matt _Dstryr-Of-Wrlds_ right
@IceMetalPunk
@IceMetalPunk 7 жыл бұрын
So in this lecture from 1951, Alan Turing predicts various aspects of machine learning algorithms, including the necessity of PRNGs, and even touches upon the uncanny valley. He really was extremely insightful, wasn't he? I only wish he'd have survived longer to continue his work.
@faizanm1563
@faizanm1563 7 жыл бұрын
IceMetalPunk He really was so damn ahead of his time. It could be said that in the future, if the development of nueral networks and machine learning is successful in creating a “human” AI, its all credited to this one man.
@joshcryer
@joshcryer 7 жыл бұрын
Importantly, he noted how we needed computers to originate something, to be able to recognize it, and encourage it (like a parent). Which is something we haven't had quite yet and is sort of reflected in Ali Rahimi's talk at NIPS 2017 (search for it on KZbin). Turing also pointed out how we wouldn't necessarily know how they work (she plant seed analogy), which is pretty incredible insight, there. I'm guessing open-endedness and evolutionary complexity are where we're heading, the former of which is territory barely touched upon.
@xrfxlp
@xrfxlp 7 жыл бұрын
I dont know why I am usually get offended when someone mentions "machine learning algorithms" in the field of Artificial Intelligence, machine learning is not Artificial intelligence, it is just a trick, a very bad trick for cheap marketing purposes.
@IIIO000
@IIIO000 7 жыл бұрын
He just had to die because he was gay and his friend robbed him. This is even sader than Tesla's life.
@JorgetePanete
@JorgetePanete 7 жыл бұрын
Faizan M it's*
@Great.Milenko
@Great.Milenko 7 жыл бұрын
in this one speech he predicted general AI , and the machine learning which will develop it... dude was so far ahead of his time, if he were around today he would be amazed
@rijuchaudhuri
@rijuchaudhuri 7 жыл бұрын
AwesomeVindicator But he might still be surprised to see that even to this day, a machine can't fully understand human language as he predicted
@Great.Milenko
@Great.Milenko 7 жыл бұрын
but were so close, i think he would be amazed on how close we are and how soon it will happen
@xrfxlp
@xrfxlp 7 жыл бұрын
haha, 60 years and I can't even talk to the most "intelligent" chatbots? Well, i'm quite amazed with tricks
@RicochetRita
@RicochetRita 7 жыл бұрын
I think he would fit right in, if not be riding the cusp of today's artificial intelligence development.
@why772
@why772 3 жыл бұрын
AGI will happen but we've made no progress on it.
@JamesWoolley1
@JamesWoolley1 7 жыл бұрын
I misread the title of this video and initially thought an audio recording of Turing had been found. I don’t know why but I have always been very curious on how Alan Turing sounded. Apparently he had a higher than average pitch voice and a slight stutter.
@TGPadm
@TGPadm 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, flag for misleading title
@noobnoobyify
@noobnoobyify 7 жыл бұрын
"Alan Turing's lost radio broadcast rerecorded" means his broadcast was rerecorded. Not sure where it says an audio recording of him was found.
@JamesWoolley1
@JamesWoolley1 7 жыл бұрын
noobnoobyify I misread it as being recorded 🙂. It was just wishful thinking.
@sansamman4619
@sansamman4619 7 жыл бұрын
I thought it said a lost recording found too!
@kamakirinoko
@kamakirinoko 6 жыл бұрын
@@noobnoobyify Yeah, sorry, it's CLICKBAIT
@gedece
@gedece 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic clarity and insights from one of the great minds, a mind so precious, and we killed it just because of seuality.
@TI5040
@TI5040 3 жыл бұрын
You are right, being lot of homophobic is not good. Who are we to criticize them.
@moanilsson3448
@moanilsson3448 5 жыл бұрын
My maths teacher would be so proud if she knew that I listen to this on my summer break
@Agirmetal
@Agirmetal 7 жыл бұрын
He was a genius and a WW2 hero. Too bad how his life ended. Rip
@CircusBamse
@CircusBamse 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with what many of you say about him, but I also really like the way he presents his ideas humbly and says there are plenty of room for other opinions!
@FeelingItNow08
@FeelingItNow08 7 жыл бұрын
i actually thought this was the youtuber's actual thoughts on the recording, and that he would play the real recording afterwards. its amazing how he talked about computers the way a man talks about it 70 ish years later
@daggawagga
@daggawagga 7 жыл бұрын
It's just fascinating how most of the parts of this lecture could easily be mistaken as someone talking about these subjects today, especially machine learning. Except for the *"I certainly hope and believe that no great efforts will be put into making machines with the most distinctively human but non-intellectual characteristics such as the shape of a human body"* part. Sex bots is where the money's at, isn't it? 😂 Thanks a lot for taking the time to provide and sync the subtitles. This helps a lot for those of us still learning spoken English. Maybe this will help the machines at some point, too? Edit: and thanks for this gift of a video! Merry Xmas!
@babarali603
@babarali603 5 жыл бұрын
Alan Turing is my hero because he save many lives .
@Biped
@Biped 7 жыл бұрын
One always tends to think of people in the past as kind of narrow minded, I think. "They couldn't have imagined those things 30 years ago" and "nobody 40 years ago would have believed this could one day exist..." but those people, especially him, didn't said "never" and that's what I find astonishing.
@dragoncurveenthusiast
@dragoncurveenthusiast 7 жыл бұрын
A truly remarkable man ahead of his time. It's so sad we lost him that young.
@Sam_on_YouTube
@Sam_on_YouTube 7 жыл бұрын
Such pure brilliance. Turing is highly rated and yet still so under rated.
@_varden
@_varden 7 жыл бұрын
I'm barely four minutes in and I'm just astonished. Turing was so far ahead of his time.
@U014B
@U014B 7 жыл бұрын
14:43 Alan Turing predicted sex robots
@cimmik
@cimmik 7 жыл бұрын
It probably was a topic back then. I can't see why it should be a new idea.
@dijpdepijp2154
@dijpdepijp2154 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful broadcast. The longer I think about it, the smaller the differences between man and machine seem to be. Funny how far ahead of his time Turing was.
@dougmcnally
@dougmcnally 7 жыл бұрын
It's eerie how prescient Turing was about so much. He got so many things exactly right that it makes me give serious credence to his idea that computers will eventually be able to faithfully imitate a brain.
@wierdalien1
@wierdalien1 7 жыл бұрын
Doug McNally that should never have been in doubt
@dougmcnally
@dougmcnally 7 жыл бұрын
Alistair Shaw Well there are some compelling arguments about fundamental differences between digital and biological computers which may tempt one into thinking there is a difference in the kind of thing. For example, the total inability to tolerate errors in digital systems - a single flipped bit can be catastrophic whereas human brains can function with significant portions damaged or even removed. There's also the tremendously lower power consumption of a human brain and the much lower apparent "clock speed." But perhaps digital and biological brains can have the same perceived functionality despite having very significantly different mechanisms. This is the idea that I was referring to being potentially persuaded on given that Turing was seemingly clairvoyant about so many other things then perhaps there really is no difference in kind between biological and digital brains. However I don't think it's unreasonable to hold the opposite opinion as you suggest.
@wierdalien1
@wierdalien1 7 жыл бұрын
Doug McNally with a large enough computer system then you could have reroutable redundancy which is similar to how biological brains work.
@dougmcnally
@dougmcnally 7 жыл бұрын
Alistair Shaw Personally I'm not convinced we currently know enough about how biological brains work to make a sweeping claim like that. There are serious gaps in our understanding (like for instance what the nature of consciousness is) that make me highly skeptical of the sort of simplification you are suggesting. In any case, this was a great lecture that was remarkably ahead of it's time. The future of technology and what it means for our place in the world is as exciting as it is unpredictable.
@krystofdayne
@krystofdayne 7 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, it's been a long time since your last video, completely forgot I was even subscribed to you xD
@mellamobob
@mellamobob 7 жыл бұрын
"Our computers might not have enough RAM to simulate the human brain, but it probably has enough speed. If we just combine a couple hundred computers together, we might be in business!" .... 66 years later ....
@xponen
@xponen 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, Alan Turing is soo smart, he had a philosophical answer for one important AI questions that I think is still relevant today. For example he succinctly describe how an AI could originate ideas without the programmers actually knowing the answer; first he do this by acknowledging that the programmers doesn't necessarily know what's he is doing, in which case the programmer created an algorithm that imitate a brain and set it into motion but he doesn't know how it will end with what answer, then the AI output an idea that is predictable in mechanical sense but not predictable to the programmer himself, in which case the AI demonstrated a free will. Philosophical answer like this is very important to us because it answered a fundamental questions such as the AI without actually knowing esoteric knowledge on such matter, in this case he couldn't possibly know the basic AI tree-searching algorithm that form all AI in 60s, this algorithm can easily create answer that escape the programmer's grasp, so he is making an argument that yielded correct answer decades later without actually knowing the actual answer is impressive!
@thomassynths
@thomassynths 7 жыл бұрын
And if you have been, thanks for listening.
@wlan246
@wlan246 7 жыл бұрын
And if you haven't been... then what? Always wondered about that.
@KevinVerberk
@KevinVerberk 6 ай бұрын
It is fascinating to be at the frontier of what is discussed in this interview, and the insight he had regarding how to consider our current computational reality.
@kittybeans8192
@kittybeans8192 7 жыл бұрын
What a shame we can't hear Turings voice... but wait, how lucky we are, we can hear the voice of Dr. James Grime. Yes indeed, very fortunate! People in the future will envy ... no one really because his voice is everywhere on the internets... but still, they didn't hear it in the making. :D
@guywren4801
@guywren4801 7 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for taking the trouble to bring this here
@matthewcecil8552
@matthewcecil8552 7 жыл бұрын
I believe Turing would be honored that you read his radio broadcast transcript for all of us. Thank you, Dr.Grime.
@geologulup8986
@geologulup8986 6 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for your next video. Just subscribed!
@jon2431
@jon2431 7 жыл бұрын
This was really cool. Thanks for doing this, James! Also, merry Christmas!
@daicon2k6
@daicon2k6 7 жыл бұрын
Most excellent. Thank you, James.
@KalikiDoom
@KalikiDoom 7 жыл бұрын
I Thank you, Mr. Grime. Very, very much.
@colinsmith6480
@colinsmith6480 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this, just shows how Turin’s thinking was ahead if his time !
@michaelwhalan9783
@michaelwhalan9783 Жыл бұрын
In New Zealand a recording was restored of Alan Turing's recording of digital music.
@MagicKidsTV-tb1hv
@MagicKidsTV-tb1hv 6 жыл бұрын
Hi James, A while ago you told me by mail (I'm the guy called Max with the many questions from Germany) that you'll probably upload new videos on Christmas. I know it's not quite Christmas yet, I just wanted to remember you 'cause I'm waiting very excitedly for the new video since last Christmas, and I think I'm not the only one who does so. Actually until Christmas Eve it's still two days to go, but I don't expect you to read this right after I'm writing, so I think I can say this: I want to wish you and for family/friends merry Christmas and a happy new year. Stay as you are. Best wishes Max 😃
@andrew17641
@andrew17641 7 жыл бұрын
James Grime rerecording Alan Turing's lecture. This is something that will be remembered for a long time.
@drdonaldduck
@drdonaldduck 6 жыл бұрын
When it comes to science communication and being motivating, you're doing really really well! Never stop doing that! I'm really looking forward to being notified by KZbin when a new video is up! It's always a pleasure to watch your videos!
@tobiaspascher9884
@tobiaspascher9884 7 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas 🖖
@samieb4712
@samieb4712 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks bo
@amna6164
@amna6164 6 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas 2018
@wrpbeater7987
@wrpbeater7987 7 жыл бұрын
"But I certainly hope and believe that no great efforts will be put into making machines with the most distinctively human but non-intellectual characteristics, such as the shape of a human body" Erm, yeah, that's never going to happen at all!
@markorezic3131
@markorezic3131 6 жыл бұрын
Sex robots, giggity In all seriousness tho, I wish Turing could be alive right now in a time and age where his genius could have been brought to life through AI
@quietsamurai1998
@quietsamurai1998 7 жыл бұрын
Lecture starts at 0:47, btw.
@pmcpartlan
@pmcpartlan 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks James, merry Christmas.
@volgg
@volgg 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine if we went back in time and bring Alan Turing to the present time to show how far the computers have progressed. Imagine him witnessing a computer that is many times more power that is able to fit inside a pocket.
@katowo6521
@katowo6521 7 жыл бұрын
But why are all recordings lost?
@OfAaron3
@OfAaron3 7 жыл бұрын
o O 0 Likely people recording over "old/irrelevant" tapes without realising what they were actually recording over to save money.
@renerpho
@renerpho 7 жыл бұрын
First of all, there probably weren't many recordings to start with. Turing was famous, but he was a mathematician, not a star from Hollywood. The rest is bad luck. There's nothing special about the case of Alan Turing, for that matter. The problem lies in the time when those recordings were made. There are many instances of lost recordings from the beginnings into the 1980s, and the 50s and 60s are especially problematic. For instance, the BBC has lost most if not all recordings of the first few seasons of the "Doctor Who" tv series. There are people who spend most of their lifes tracing down those lost episodes. Another example is the original tape from the Apollo 11 Moon landing coverage: The only surviving copy of the video that shows the astronauts on the Moon comes from an Australian station who happened to pick up the signal, and it has reduced quality. Or many regular tv shows, which were recorded to be broadcasted just once... Those tapes (no matter if audio or video) were taking up a lot of storage space, and that did cost the broadcast companies money. There was no point in saving the master tapes. Except, of course, that they might be valuable to historians at some point. But there was no money to be made from that. The concept of selling old shows to smaller tv channels wasn't a thing yet. This may sound careless. And to some extent it is. But to be fair, those tapes really did take up a lot of space (the tapes were heavy, big, and expensive), and often it was easy to just reuse a tape. Don't forget it wasn't too long after the war, so shortage on resources was still a factor. Show business was all about money.
@vragenstaatvrij777
@vragenstaatvrij777 7 жыл бұрын
Not very different from medieval palimpsest procedures. Not to mention the tens of thousands medieval manuscripts that were torn apart, ripped to pieces, boiled, burned, and stripped for parts because old-fashioned parchment books were forced to leave the stage for the printed ones.
@renerpho
@renerpho 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, there's so much lost knowledge, it's depressing. Think about all the ancient philosophers and playwriters who's work is lost for good. On the other hand, it should be put into perspective: Obviously there are no recordings preserved from before the mid-1800s, because the technology wasn't invented yet. I have a friend who likes to moan about the fact that we don't have a recording of Goethe's voice (he died a few years before the first sound recording devices were built). Fair enough, but we don't have a recording of Caesar's voice either, and the latter rarely causes us sorrow. Not because Caesar was less interesting, but because there was no chance anyway for such a recording to be made. Unlike Goethe, who's voice actually could have been preserved had he lived a few years longer... Humans like to complain about "missed opportunities", especially when the miss was narrow. That's the case for Alan Turing, Goethe, and many medieval manuscripts. Those complaints are pointless. The preservation of information is a direct result of human technology. Prior to the invention of script, almost nothing could be preserved for more than a few generations. Losing that old knowledge is unfortunate, but natural. We wouldn't be complaining if our conception of information and data wasn't so screwed by all those new inventions we made. Will that change? In the short run, maybe. It is possible that, 100 years from now, this conversation we are having now is stored on some hard drive and available to historians. I doubt it, and on the long run its fate is sealed.
@renerpho
@renerpho 7 жыл бұрын
Which, of course, does not mean that we shouldn't try to preserve history as good as we can. ;-) Now that we have the technology (a script, electricity, and the internet) we can use it for good where possible.
@MichaelGoldenberg
@MichaelGoldenberg 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, James
@kittybeans8192
@kittybeans8192 7 жыл бұрын
@Singingbanana I just wanted to say thanks for this amazing gem. I'd never heard this lecture before. It really kicked my Christmas morning off to a nice start.
@rho7754
@rho7754 Жыл бұрын
And even as we reach heights of technological development that fulfill Turing's predictions, laws are being carelessly and callously passed in the English speaking world out of the same mindset as those which robbed him of his life and the world of his full potential, which could very well take the next Alan Turing off the census before their contributions can ever be made.
@TheSamzelot
@TheSamzelot 7 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how early these ideas came to be.
@TheInsaneum
@TheInsaneum 7 жыл бұрын
Id love to see more of this sort of video!
@Mothuzad
@Mothuzad 5 ай бұрын
One of the greatest thinkers in modern history was stolen from us by institutionalized homophobia. Mr. Turing, you will never hear this message, but it gives me some solace to say it. The conversations you started have never ended. The ideas you inspired have come to shape the world, whereas the bigots who stole your life away are seldom remembered and in those cases regarded as sad fools. I can't claim with any confidence that cooler minds will prevail in my own future, and that we shall not destroy ourselves either in subservience to greed or by creating a thinking machine so unlike ourselves that it regards us only as raw materials. You empowered humankind. Ultimately, that power will do what it always does, not corrupting, but rather revealing what humans truly are when unconstrained. I solemnly thank you for the opportunity.
@kirglow4639
@kirglow4639 5 ай бұрын
A truly prolific thinker
@timbuckthe2nd642
@timbuckthe2nd642 2 жыл бұрын
Genius is thrown out a lot for brilliance, but Alan Turing was actually a genius.
@tabularasa0606
@tabularasa0606 7 жыл бұрын
If only we hadn't lost his beautiful brain so early. :'(
@NocturnalJin
@NocturnalJin 7 жыл бұрын
Wow. He hit so many points we deal with today -- right down to the uncanny valley. I feel kind of bad that the whole time I had to stop myself from imagining Cumberbatch speaking Turing's words.
@TimJSwan
@TimJSwan 6 жыл бұрын
I feel so similar to him in how I try to use analogies to explain things to people.
@АлександрБагмутов
@АлександрБагмутов 6 жыл бұрын
Judging by the title, I thought it would be dive into some awesome technique of rerecording old radio broadcastings, reflected by near space objects or smth..
@thomaslwilson2840
@thomaslwilson2840 2 жыл бұрын
We are still trying to reproduce the functioning of the human mind with computers. Many, including Turing, pioneered this.
@In2MeUcU
@In2MeUcU 3 жыл бұрын
He was way ahead of his time. Godspeed BeYOUtiful Soul ❤️
@kristajarvinen5440
@kristajarvinen5440 6 жыл бұрын
Hi James! You had a lecture in our school today, and I found it the most intresting. You had this way of speaking with such joy that it made me inspired. I loved every second of it. Too bad I was too shy to say this to you in person, but I hope you see this and know that you made me feel motivated and intrested (and happy :)) Thank you, and I hope you have a fun time here in Finland
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Krista, I did see this - and I'm glad I did. Thank you for taking the time to send me a message and say nice things! You've made my day.
@James-zs3vm
@James-zs3vm 6 жыл бұрын
I saw you in Cambridge the other day! Too afraid to say hello though, perhaps another time!
@pkeshish
@pkeshish 7 жыл бұрын
very nice. thank you for this share. and Merry Christmas!
@jjer125
@jjer125 7 жыл бұрын
the idea of superintelligence has sure been around for quite some time now. I wonder how far are we 66 years later
@freeopinion2140
@freeopinion2140 Жыл бұрын
"If we give the machine a programme which results in its doing something interesting which we had not anticipated, I should be inclined to say that the machine had originated something, rather than to claim that its behaviour was implicit in the programme, and therefore that the originality lies entirely with us."
@p.o.s.h.o.u1037
@p.o.s.h.o.u1037 Жыл бұрын
If only he was alive today, he would be amazed
@mathewalex6171
@mathewalex6171 7 жыл бұрын
All genius is short lived, but they transcend time by thinking ahead of mortals. I'll honor you by diving deep into the mysteries of mathematics as hard as I can.
@tabularasa0606
@tabularasa0606 7 жыл бұрын
Einstein lived for a long time so did Richard Feynman, Carl Sagan and Isaac Newton. All geniuses.
@Varksterable
@Varksterable 6 жыл бұрын
@@tabularasa0606 "... lived for a long time." Hmmm. The Earth is 4.5 billion years old. Just how is 76 years a "long time?"
@tabularasa0606
@tabularasa0606 6 жыл бұрын
It's all relative.
@Varksterable
@Varksterable 6 жыл бұрын
@NaN Good one. :D Maybe rather than being persecuted into suicide (some question about that, perhaps) Turing should have been sent at near light speed for few orbits around the sun. Then he'd still be with us, and could no doubt offer even more insight into what the future holds, and how best to steer it for the benefit of all.
@EastBurningRed
@EastBurningRed 6 жыл бұрын
How does 20 years in prison sound, friend?
@TorgeirKruke
@TorgeirKruke 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic clarity. Where are the Alan Turings of today?
@Ahlis369
@Ahlis369 6 жыл бұрын
Woah! I need to show this video to my mums uncle, he is 94, going to be very interested in this!
@FoxDren
@FoxDren 7 жыл бұрын
May have to listen to this again at a later time (when I haven't just woken up)
@pepperonisalad2304
@pepperonisalad2304 6 жыл бұрын
Why no upload MrBanana?
@user-mk4jq7uq9c
@user-mk4jq7uq9c 7 жыл бұрын
Yay you posted
@drdonaldduck
@drdonaldduck 6 жыл бұрын
James where are you 😭
@jamestaylor1934
@jamestaylor1934 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent discourse, Bravo Dr Grime. I have a picture of myself next to his statue in Sackville park, Manchester. I use it as my company profile picture. It's well received.
@MagicKidsTV-tb1hv
@MagicKidsTV-tb1hv 6 жыл бұрын
Hi James, I hope you will read this. I'm very glad to have found you on Numberphile, you pushed my passion for maths a lot. Please never stop doing your videos and hopefully I can come to see one of your talks once. Just a short question: What is 'infinity * 0' ? Is there an answer or is it not defined. And what about 1/0 ? The hyperreal numbers contain infinity, so is 1/0 solvable in *IR (Hyperreals) as 1/0 = infinity? Thanks a lot :) [ Sorry for my English but I'm from Germany]
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Max, the answer to your first question is that it is not defined. For example (1/n)*n tend to 1 as n tend to 0, but (1/n^2)*n tends to infinity as n tends to 0 - but they are both "infinity*0". This is why you can't use infinity as a number. 1/0 is still not solvable in the hyperreals. The hyperreals contain numbers called infinitesimals which are nonzero but smaller than any real number. If e is an infinitesimal then 1/e is infinite and e and 1/e are both hyperreal numbers. However, the hyperreals does not contain 1/0.
@MagicKidsTV-tb1hv
@MagicKidsTV-tb1hv 6 жыл бұрын
singingbanana Okay, thanks😊
@MagicKidsTV-tb1hv
@MagicKidsTV-tb1hv 6 жыл бұрын
singingbanana but I don't really get your first point: isn't (1/n)*n equal to 1? And isn't (1/n^2)*n equal to 1/n ? So 1 is always 1 and 1/n tend to infinity if n tends to 0, but Is there a special reason that you write it that complicated?
@MagicKidsTV-tb1hv
@MagicKidsTV-tb1hv 6 жыл бұрын
singingbanana Oh wait, I think I got it: 1/n tends to infinity if n tends to 0, so the product of those terms has tend to 0*infinity, but the product tends to/is one. Same for the other: 1/n^2 tends to 0 if n tends to infinity, so the product has again to tend to 0*infinity, but it tends to 0, which is why 0*infinity isn't defined (because there is more than one answer that would make sense). Right?
@luizg8034
@luizg8034 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize it was Grime until the end!
@Ahlis369
@Ahlis369 6 жыл бұрын
Hey James! Do you remember meeting me last year in Switzerland at ecolint, school during lunch! I love your videos, they are very fascinating and interesting, i know you must be busy, but please upload a little more often!
@johnbouttell5827
@johnbouttell5827 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job. I'd like to hear the scripts of Douglas Hartree, Max Newman, Freddie Williams and Maurice Wilkes.
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 7 жыл бұрын
+John Bicycle So would I. I haven't found them, there is a link in the description about the series.
@pegy6384
@pegy6384 7 жыл бұрын
This makes me want to read more from Alan Turing. Thank you for the link to the digital archive! Had you read this particular talk before, or did you just recently discover it? He was so far ahead of his time--it's such a shame that we lost him and his insight so long ago.
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 7 жыл бұрын
I knew of the broadcast, but saw the script in the King's College archive while preparing an exhibition about Alan Turing. I thought the script was good, and realised I could record it.
@Ahlis369
@Ahlis369 6 жыл бұрын
your epic! I didn't have the guts to tell you on Monday the 30th of april, at school but yeah, you're videos are really cool, and you are such a funny guy.
@fejfo6559
@fejfo6559 7 жыл бұрын
great, now allan turing sounds like you in my head.
@pianofrik
@pianofrik 7 жыл бұрын
Just by listening to this, it strikes me how much wiser and more balanced the real Turing was, compared to the one in the Imitation Game. I like the real one.
@perebraco
@perebraco 6 жыл бұрын
What's up with no uploads? James, get your stuff together!
@XMegaJuni
@XMegaJuni 7 жыл бұрын
Will you do more math puzzles?
@gggoom2443
@gggoom2443 7 жыл бұрын
Hi from Giggleswick school! Mr Grime! Enjoy your tour in Gigg today? I learned a lot from your lecture!
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 6 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm glad!
@phpn99
@phpn99 7 жыл бұрын
Turing was right to point out that computer programmes are not necessarily deterministic and that given a set of inputs and defined behaviours, the effect could very well be unpredictable, and moreover, useful as such. This is very much how current Deep Learning methods work. But the word "intelligence" implies something more than cognitive ability, it implies intent and free will. Machines aren't likely to develop intent, anymore than chaotic asteroid formations have any free will. Moreover, even as we feed all the data in the world to computer programmes and they show the ability to produce useful and seemingly human output, this will never be the same as creation, imagination and science, because the human mind is a connected machine: Brains do not really function in isolation; they are connected through sensory experience and through language, one to another, and to Nature, in such a way that what we call 'civilisation' is a massive, evolving brain. The best we can expect of computer programmes is that they function as extension prosthetics to our own brains and not as an intelligent species of their own, because that would require life itself.
@InXLsisDeo
@InXLsisDeo 7 жыл бұрын
Superbe reading and so visionary of Turing. It's unfortunate he didn't live long enough to hear about neuron networks. He would have been fascinated by the concept and I'm pretty sure he would have advanced the field in significant ways.
@nikanj
@nikanj 7 жыл бұрын
James Grimes records a lecture by Alan Turing? Merry Christmas!
@WorthlessWinner
@WorthlessWinner 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for this Christmas present :)
@arjunpjayakrishnan7271
@arjunpjayakrishnan7271 6 жыл бұрын
Sir dr James Grime, Can you make a vedio on how to publish a theory.Please do consider my thought for a moment at least.
@ganbaresepp2361
@ganbaresepp2361 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, Jim. Some time ago i saw a really interesting video about "how to do squared numbers by geometry" even cubic numbers. Where you draw triangels and lay then over another and then count the cutting points. This was about the view we learn math in school and a different aproach to learn it. I hope you know what i mean. And are there further lectures or anything that deals with these ideas? And when its interesting enough maybe you can do a video and can explain it :D Love your videos and your passion. Have a nice day.
@riola7490
@riola7490 4 жыл бұрын
The reason why he died is he had known so much
@markmatter2411
@markmatter2411 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Jim! I hope you will read this comment. I know this is not the most appropriate video to ask what I'm going to ask but I'll try. I'm fond of cryptography but in my courses professors didn't get deep into the arithmetic background of the algorithms that we analyse. But I am very interested and on the web It is difficult to get some accurate and clear document. At least for my skills (I never attended a modular arithmetic course, for istance). The the question is: Can you tell me some books that are concerned on arithmetic algebra, prime numbers theory, when I can understand why little fermat's theorem works for example (I'd have a loto of examples but I don't report's here now). Hope you read this and I apologise for my English (I'm Italian 😅). Thanks a lot!
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if I can recommend a book that is introductory and detailed. If you message me I can give you something to look at.
@markmatter2411
@markmatter2411 6 жыл бұрын
singingbanana I wrote "arithmetic algebra". I'm not that ignorant 😂. Anyway, thanks a lot for answering. Where can I email you?
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 6 жыл бұрын
Via KZbin or via my website.
@damiandassen7763
@damiandassen7763 7 жыл бұрын
Could you make videos about all of the millenium problems
@sreeragm8366
@sreeragm8366 5 жыл бұрын
Just Imagined Alan Turing on Lex Fridman podcast. Sad he is no more.
@alexandterfst6532
@alexandterfst6532 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@ASLUHLUHC3
@ASLUHLUHC3 Жыл бұрын
8:40 The time has come!
@ASLUHLUHC3
@ASLUHLUHC3 Жыл бұрын
So ahead of his time
@ASLUHLUHC3
@ASLUHLUHC3 Жыл бұрын
'I believe that the attempt to make a thinking machine will help us greatly in finding out how we think ourselves'
@mennonis
@mennonis 7 жыл бұрын
wow, this turing guy was pretty smart huh?
@ASLUHLUHC3
@ASLUHLUHC3 6 жыл бұрын
"I am imagining something like an examination, but with the questions and answers all typewritten in order that we need not consider such irrelevant matters as the faithfulness with which the human voice can be imitated" Google duplex: hold my beer
@guest_informant
@guest_informant 7 жыл бұрын
Broadcasted?? Happy Christmas James
@sofia.eris.bauhaus
@sofia.eris.bauhaus 7 жыл бұрын
i find it really peculiar, when people who understand that our minds may not rely on randomness, still say they experience "free will". i wonder which experiences they may refer to. they may say they are illusions, but illusions if what? my choices are made in my head, informed paritially by consicous thought, and these thoughts are based on other thoughts, perceptions and inherited brain structure. there also seems to be some noise. but random or pseudorandom: i have no reason to identify with uncaused things. my intentions certainly aren't random, and my freedom as an agent does only depend on the absence of powerful oppressors. i have no desire to defy causality. it seems that once i unwrapped my head from the strange intuition of "free will", i cannot undo it.. i can only vaguely remember that the "free will" still seemed to make some sense in my early teens.
@davr1
@davr1 6 жыл бұрын
What happened to this channel
@Ginga7r
@Ginga7r 6 жыл бұрын
Simply a Hero
@JoeValentine420
@JoeValentine420 6 жыл бұрын
Hey singingbanana can you answer a question and it's okay if I am wrong but can numbers be defined as the points between infinite ?Thanks
@rageagainstthebath
@rageagainstthebath 7 жыл бұрын
Please add captions somewhere else, like near the top edge of the video, otherwise they overlap with KZbin translations. Thanks!
@teameak9167
@teameak9167 6 жыл бұрын
Here is an interesting question: What percentage of people will get this question wrong?
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