Alan Wake Explained - Riverport Blackboard Easter Egg (Analysis)

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@Cinetyk
@Cinetyk 4 жыл бұрын
Forget RPGs, Remedy games have the deepest lore.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
Right?! I have found Remedy stories not only more dense with lore but presented in a way that makes it more enjoyable to explore.
@Nsands81
@Nsands81 2 жыл бұрын
Amen brotha! Fucking love how fucked my mind gets in all of this haha
@cregerbot8217
@cregerbot8217 4 жыл бұрын
Gaming University talking to us about a video game lecture? Extremely fitting
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
You know me lol! Time for an inception level lecture haha. Lecture within a lecture
@cregerbot8217
@cregerbot8217 4 жыл бұрын
I just realized something - Underhill was a professor. Though not stated, she could possibly the one responsable for the lecture, and also makes sense in the bio lab area. Though why she's talking about Alan is unclear, she may be looking into Thresholds. Perhaps that University was preparing new FBC agents.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's mentioned where exactly she had her tenure. The only scenes we have with her post game is her mentioning how she was annoyed Emily got promoted over her to head of research and she was a bit disconcerted that Darling was "dead". I didn't go back and check kn her after the Foundation. That would be an interesting idea though. In which this wasnt a lecture, just her making notes to herself in her free time trying to figure it out.
@nuclear_war_games
@nuclear_war_games Жыл бұрын
5:08 watching this part I've just realized something. In IGN's gameplay video of Alan Wake 2 where Alan walks down the alley and meets Alex Casey, the walls of the alley are scribbled with graffiti. One of the words on the wall was "Initiation".
@Majeika1976
@Majeika1976 10 ай бұрын
I was replaying Control, and there is an interesting blackboard with a load of chalk writing - in the 'sound' lab. It's about dark and light, looks in part like a poem
@iliaszholdasov
@iliaszholdasov 4 жыл бұрын
The metaphor of dark matter/energy being the Dark Place/Presence was so unexpected to me yet so obvious. The creator makes the Universe come to life by imagining it, like Alan in the Dark Place, and everything else is dark/invisible, uninitialized basically lol. I figured I'd leave my other impressions here instead of writing separate comments :D I loved seeing Baba Yaga references because my native language is Russian and I've known tales about her since my childhood, and I don't know how I did not see it in the name of the Bird Leg Cabin. Also, in the tales, she often guides the hero to the other world, the 'far away kingdom' so to speak. I never really liked poetry but the Alan Wake context makes me appreciate the poems. I really did like 'Some are Born to Endless Night' and some of Zane's poems.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
I hope I did it justice with the info I presented on Baba Yaga! You know far more on that topic than I do lol. That's interesting that she acts as a guide as well in a certain sense. For the Creation of the Dark Place and Dark/Invisible part of reality go back and revisit out my first video, Sound of Creation. It is all about conscious thought making the universe come alive due to intention. The Word, Nada Brahma, etc. This is the root of the Alan Wake cosmology so that was the first topic I tackled.
@Incognito980
@Incognito980 7 ай бұрын
Watching this after Alan Wake 2 is insane.
@redjohniii8665
@redjohniii8665 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say AWE is a double entendre in this case. One thing I hope to figure out in AWE expansion is the definitive answer as to how to get through those doors. We know Emily comments that perhaps the only way to go through it is to have entered it so maybe Alan will try to contact Jesse in some way or maybe some thing from the Dark Place will attempt instead. Also makes me wonder if Darling potentially knows more, since we know that Hedron showed him some things before he vanished. Which brings me to the point of the Hiss/Hedron. We know the Hiss allows certain people to see different universes like with Dylan but it also allows information bc Trench mentions being shown too much and knows a lot about Ahti bc of it. Maybe Hedron has that ability too but it only happens if you get too close like Darling did, maybe Polaris could do the same thing for Jesse. I mean Hedron(maybe Polaris, kind of confused on that point) was showing Dylan where Jesse was when he was trapped by the Bureau so I think it could work the same way for Jesse. I mean how else did Darling know that Hedron died and knew that a new director was chosen so that he could deliver that message to Jesse through the Hotline near the end of the game? Unless he's still alive in some form I'd say he was shown a lot like Trench & Dylan.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
Well technically everyone in the Bureau knew that Jesse became the directlt almost immediately. I'd like to know when exactly Darling ascended past this reality to the next. Did it happen before Jesse arrived or after? There is no time stamp on his final videos. Frankly I think Jesse becoming aware of Alan will occur because the Investigation Sector opens up. That's where they research AWE's and try to connect the dots like we do. Maybe a fresh set of eyes is all it takes for them to finally figure it out. I know this won't happen because the lockdown is still in place, but it would be badass if the FBC visited Bright Falls and Cauldrom Lake as part of their new look at the investigation.
@carso1500
@carso1500 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG maybe control 2, or Alan wake 2, or a completly diferent game set in the same universe but located in bright falls
@QuestionDeca
@QuestionDeca 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG Who says Darling "Ascended", perhaps he just "Stepped Aside" (literally and dimensionally)? And as I write this, a thought comes to me, when listening to the Board, there's a lot of literal doublespeak, as multiple interpretations (sometimes even conflicting or contradictory) of an idea or thought are presented as if spoken at the same time by one or more entities by the Board, while in Foundations, when Jesse finally starts to understand the Former (or the Former to convey it's ideas/thoughts/intent to Jesse), there isn't the same doublespeak while still leaving much open to interpretation.
@iliaszholdasov
@iliaszholdasov 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think about American Nightmare being the Initiation part of the journey? I found this on the wikipage for Hero's journey: "The road of trials is a series of tests that the hero must undergo to begin the transformation. Often the hero fails one or more of these tests, which often occur in threes. Eventually the hero will overcome these trials and move on to the next step." Alan had exactly three cycles/tests in AN and achieved his goal of defeating Mr. Scratch and reuniting with Alice if I remember correctly. Although I'm not sure if other stages of Initiation fit in or if they do at all.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
I believe it would make a lot more sense for the narrative if AN is Initiation. However, we see him starting to write Return and then this story happens. It's hard to say. One part of the Return phase is "Rescue from Without." which isn't something that happened here.
@iliaszholdasov
@iliaszholdasov 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG yeah I agree it would make sense. My guess for the structure of Alan Wake's journey is that the main game - Departure, AWAN - Initiation, AWE expansion - Return. (I think I saw this on Reddit, so it's not really mine :)
@daspiri6523
@daspiri6523 3 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG Or maybe as Alan later remembered to write initiation as seen on the board with ! so he paused on the return to write AWAN as initiation. Just a Big idea
@BobsRevenge
@BobsRevenge 4 жыл бұрын
Man who thought when we played Max Payne as kids the likeness of Max Payne would help write the wildest connected universe ever
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I got to play Max Payne as a kid! It was one I missed until recently. But yeah seeing MP then seeing where we are now is surreal.
@catrianheir
@catrianheir 11 күн бұрын
​@@GamingUniversityUoGdude I played Max Payne when it first came out and I thought it was stupid. I was such a dumb kid! I missed out! Hell I refused to play Alan Wake for years cause I had it mixed up with Alone in the Dark and heard it was terrible. Literally went and played it immediately after the AWE dlc.
@BobberTmediaDeadThug
@BobberTmediaDeadThug 3 жыл бұрын
This is pure gold! Have been searching for some deep dives (pun intended?) into the world of Alan Wake for many years... And finally someone who actually thinks way out of the ordinary (pun again) interpretations of the game and its lore. Now when Remedy is starting to connect their games it is so great to have a place to help one self to connect all the dots! Please keep this up in the future!
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely plan to! I can't wait for new games to be released. Now that they have a game universe set up I imagine things will get even crazier!
@Wishes_for_Fishes
@Wishes_for_Fishes 4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel man! Keep up the great videos! The world needs more alan wake content
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree lol! Alan Wake needs more love. I appreciate the support!
@mjolnir112
@mjolnir112 4 жыл бұрын
Great work, that didn't feel like 18 minutes at all. Did you hear Remedy are on the lookout for a lead writer? Sounds like a dream job, but I hope Sam isn't stepping down anytime soon.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
No Sam isn't stepping down from what I have heard. He's the creative director and doesn't lead up the writing but is involved in it still. Dude I'd intern as a writer if asked lol. I'd do it for free
@zombiehippo9477
@zombiehippo9477 4 жыл бұрын
Dude this has been my favorite game and company. I like how you also use science to explain aspects of the games.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
Same here! They are my favorite game company right now. The product rheh produce is next level! And thanks! I enjoy discussing the themes/science that shows up in these stories.
@bigben1121
@bigben1121 4 жыл бұрын
These are the only videos I look forward to on youtube anymore. keep up the great work!
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
It's an honor to hear that! You're awesome man.
@alessiomadethat
@alessiomadethat 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is so slept on. I'm going to share these videos as much as I can! Keep up the excellent content.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate it! You're awesome.
@erica_lawless1408
@erica_lawless1408 4 жыл бұрын
Another great vid! I really hope we get some sort of closure regarding Alan Wake's situation in the AWE expansion. They teased it in the main game, and they don't seem to tease lightly. So maybe.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
If they don't give him any closure in AWE at the very least I hope they figure out what happened him and set up a plan to get our boy out of there. I'd at least be happy with that.
@UponDemise666
@UponDemise666 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, Thank you!!! Again, you knock it outta the park... GREAT video, keep up the good work!!!!
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much buddy! These are so much fun to put together for you all so there are plenty more to come!
@TheBlackKakashi
@TheBlackKakashi 4 жыл бұрын
Another Alan Wake banger 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy!
@elessal
@elessal 4 жыл бұрын
great as always. I don't know if I am just seeing things that are not there. but in the creator's dilemma (page 94 of the alan wake files) Hartman writes about one of his patients, a sculptor who became strangely attached over a limestone block he obsessed over three days. I think that maybe an altered object. also, in the files we can also read a couple of works of Alan's. one is of Alex Casey, which we can assume is a real event in Max's life. but the other is a horror one called Errand Boy (page 54). this one may take place in Max's universe or an alternate one. doesn't feel there is much on those stories to mention, but they are there. and also am not sure if all stories written by authors or Alan, in particular, would necessarily be real ones from other universes.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
Yes the Alex Casey novels are implied to be the fictional worlds that Max Paynr exists in. Using that logic any piece of fiction creates a pocket universe of its very own. James McCaffrey voiced Max payne and alex Casey so it makes sense. In terms of the sculptor becoming obsessed with the block of stone I think this was intended to be a reference to the Italian Sculptor Michaelangelo. It was reported that he would look at an uncut block of stone and not work on it until he knew exactly how to cut it into something beautiful. This sometimes took days or weeks. Errand Boy is an interesting story because it plays into Alan's issue with not growing up with a father but also his obsession with lighthouses.
@KrazyK785
@KrazyK785 4 жыл бұрын
My man, this was incredible. Good work.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@dmitripopov8570
@dmitripopov8570 2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting! Thank you! I enjoy listening to your stories the most as I drive after dark in a mountain area. A perfect setting!
@QUIICKCLAW
@QUIICKCLAW 2 жыл бұрын
Something I noticed playing through the game is there are often wooden "gate" structures encountered. You often pass through them before entering areas where shit happens like Taken encounters or encountering other Darkness-related events. Even before crossing onto Diver's Isle you pass through one of these gates. Their shape is reminiscent of Torii gates, which passing through a Torii gate usually symbolizes crossing a threshold from the mundane into the mystical or sacred. I felt it could be an interesting point.
@retropulse03
@retropulse03 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going mad waiting for AWE. Even a teaser trailer would be nice, at least we could pick it apart lol. It can't be far off I hope.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
Same here! I cannot wait for some kind of news! Im dying here lol. And I swear I am not intending to connect the last 3 or 4 videos to AWE. It just keeps happening haha. I'm just accidently keeping the hype alive until we get news.
@retropulse03
@retropulse03 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG I imagine AWE is designed specifically to bring a lot of things together, so I think it's inevitable in a way.
@cregerbot8217
@cregerbot8217 4 жыл бұрын
@@retropulse03 Vida did say that they're taking a break and coming back around July-August. Perhaps trailer July, and release August... Hopefully
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
I know Vida said she was going on vacation for a month starting today. Not sure if it is related to this break. Courtney posted on her IG a couple days back that she was recording new audio for the dlc. So it may be winding down in development.
@willisrose9756
@willisrose9756 11 ай бұрын
The front cover of Alan Wake’s novelization by Rick Burroughs also features Some Are Born To Endless Night under Some Are Born to Light!
@elduck3281
@elduck3281 4 жыл бұрын
As always, just amazing
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
You're awesome thanks! It was great having you in stream the other day.
@elduck3281
@elduck3281 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG
@ThePreciseClimber
@ThePreciseClimber 2 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking. Had it not been for Zane appearing in Alan's dream prior to arriving in Bright Falls, one interpretation could've been that Alan just got inspired by the things he saw in Bright Falls and created everything. Maybe the shoebox was just a shoebox and Alan simply wasn't familiar with Thomas Zane. Maybe the lamp lady was just eccentric. Maybe Mott was just some jerk on the barge. Maybe Hartman wasn't some evil mastermind. Maybe the Andersons didn't record The Poet and the Muse. And maybe Alan took all those unrelated elements and crafted a story through them.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 2 жыл бұрын
I push that idea a bit in another video. Don't remember which one. Personally, I don't think Zane appeared in the nightmare. It was the Bright Presence that appeared and Alan associated the two. But again anything related to Zane is wonky.
@TheVentrexian
@TheVentrexian 4 жыл бұрын
I literally just finished QB..this is madness.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing! How did you enjoy the game?
@TheVentrexian
@TheVentrexian 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG honestly thought it wasn't too "bad" from start to finish. The combat is really fun.
@varunaX
@varunaX 3 жыл бұрын
The mention of AWE on the blackboard is kinda mind blowing if it's inferring the entire concept of Control was already established during the development of QB
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
A portion of Control was actually already conceived before this in 2012 when American Nightmare and This House of Dreams was released. It included mention of Ordinary, an agent with an AWE badge. In Quantum Break they even mention the Bureau of Altered World Events. Granted this was changed to the FBC later but yeah. Remedy thinks ahead on a lot of this stuff.
@OopsieBoopsies
@OopsieBoopsies 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Oh how good remedy is at world building.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
They are incredible at world building. The community never stops finding new stuff.
@OopsieBoopsies
@OopsieBoopsies 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG thats the glory of a company thinking back to what they have made. And goes yeah we can do this. Hide a hint to a old thing here.
@halfaxle
@halfaxle 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen some good theories as to why this whole thing is in a college classroom but And I'm completely spitballing here Alan un/intentionally made a random professor obsessed over his plight through his "smoke signals" from American Nightmare, in a somewhat similar way to the guy from Alan's nightmare at the beginning of the game
@halfaxle
@halfaxle 2 жыл бұрын
Could probably explain why the writings are so meta
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely feel like a lot of the stuff in QB are smoke signals that Alan mentioned in that game. I'm torn between him reaching out to drop himself into the world here or if this entire reality was crafted by him. Like a pocket universe. Since we can't have it fully included in the prime universe where control take place due to Microsoft issues it may be a self contained reality. But again just spitballing ideas.
@martinzalle
@martinzalle 4 жыл бұрын
"Some are born to endless nights" was in the very first teaser trailer for Alan Wake, I believe
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
I'll have to go back and take a look at that. Thanks for the info!
@martinzalle
@martinzalle 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJXQaJSVmNRjn5o I can try and link you if you're interested. Really enjoying your videos btw :)
@Neb_Raska
@Neb_Raska 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video. Subscribed.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate it and glad you enjoyed it! Welcome aboard to this crazy train!
@cembatuhan99
@cembatuhan99 4 жыл бұрын
Top content, as always.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
You're awesome!
@dmitripopov8570
@dmitripopov8570 Жыл бұрын
Younger Jessy was questioned by Control Agent, when she and her brother were first brought into the bureau. She was asked about Thomas Zane the movie maker and Jessy replied: "You mean, the poet." If I remember correctly, the shoe box had different contents - either we saw it in the game, or it was described in the same audio log as the aforementioned conversation. Was it the actual box, or some other one, which agents tested to try to recreate the Bright Falls AWE (as described on a blackboard in Control)?
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG Жыл бұрын
Young jesse never was brought to the Bureau. She had a therapy session as an adult elsewhere. Still dont know the relationship with this person and the FBC. Could be a plant or a random person and the bureau took the session tapes. No clue
@dmitripopov8570
@dmitripopov8570 Жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG I missed that fact. Thank you. However, question about Thomas Zane sounds too specific for a random psychiatrist. I need to hear that session again.
@meimei8718
@meimei8718 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for Alan Wake 2!
@donovandully2577
@donovandully2577 2 жыл бұрын
Control being the Initiation makes sense now :0
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Control is the initiation phase. It would make too much sense. Or one could argue all of Alan's struggles in the Dark Place are the Initiation and Control is simply one of the trials.
@central3425
@central3425 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very interesting video!
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 2 жыл бұрын
You got it!
@supa-hero7184
@supa-hero7184 4 ай бұрын
After alan wake 2, you gotta come back to this
@mas3fect
@mas3fect 3 жыл бұрын
What if the initiation isn't necessarily something Alan needs to do, but something that would need to happen in order to have return. That initiation could be Jesse becoming the full director of the FBC. Maybe her initiation was a requirement for his return?
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
That is my thinking as well. That the initiation for not his development but someone else's. It would make it a unique representation of the heroes journey if this was the case.
@BadTeacherUA
@BadTeacherUA 3 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG ...especially, if the Hero is not a person but a Human as a concept/being and/or a connected fate inbetween Jesse and Alan (both are becoming almost gods with their powers progression). Then all make perfect sense. Shadow. Board. Planes and Thresholds. Something bigger is happening. And all 3 titles are full of references of this. Humanity evolve into something Other. Was it intentional/outer cybernetics/meme... or a free will exist - that is the main question here. Also, it seems the Board tries to prevent/control such an evolution. The theory is that the Board control Human(s) to become/not succeed in becoming literally New Gods (which Ahti will also delegate to some of his true Job at last ahaha).
@BadTeacherUA
@BadTeacherUA 3 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG Also, IRL Ahti is mentioned in "Rune XXVI "Origin to the Serpent", in Rune XXVIII he is called "Ahti, hero of the Islands", and in Rune XXX; always another name of Lemminkainen." (Kalevala by the compiler Elias Lönnrot). So, the Former, with it's snake-alike form, can be nothing other than the Ahti's Shadow/true form that did find it's own life out of the Board and a path to the reality of the Oldest House. Visually, Former is more Sea snakes and historical map depictions of sea monsters alike rather than a "bug". And so, maybe, the Board is the consortium of gods/higher beings that both prevent human ascension (with media as "babysitters" to keep people asleep) and the same time - are helping Human to achieve the godhood, to evolve (remember, the Board are outside of the binary logic). The sleeping must AWAKE ) Both Alan and Jesse are on their way... The wall. And the poster. The poster is no more.
@permeus2nd
@permeus2nd 3 жыл бұрын
10:48 it dosnt even take 6 days it can start as soon as 3 days but I've at 1+ days (over 24 hours) the brain starts to not work right, losing the ability to tell what an object is your holding if you cant see it.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
It is absolutely crazy what the brain does.
@Spinnaker10
@Spinnaker10 3 жыл бұрын
Control is about the initiation of Jesse Fayden as director of the FBC which is verified in the AWE dlc. Thoughts?
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
That was my exact thinking as well back when I first started looking at this.
@COSMIC_ZA
@COSMIC_ZA 3 жыл бұрын
You know, lectures on video games can actually have potential for schools when they teach poetry or books and even movies, and if they do movies, why not video games. I would absolutely love to do some of Remedy's games for game-analysis.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
That is exactly why the channel name is what it is. In some ways I feel the impact of good literature in games is greater than books or film. I think it was Hello Future Me who did a video on how having psychology agency over the character allows the brain to experience it better than passively sitting back and watching a character on the big screen.
@SonnyFRST
@SonnyFRST 3 жыл бұрын
8:25 "But if there's no eeeeeeEEEEeeed, there can be no beginning (there can be no beginning)"
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
In the same sense there can be no end as well. No beginning or end just the constant state of being. Transformations occur though.
@SonnyFRST
@SonnyFRST 3 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG You...did you not get the reference?
@MateoAbadia
@MateoAbadia 3 жыл бұрын
At the end of AWE Alan says there will be a Return, it's the same name as thr American Nightmeare manuscript but if there where rewrites maybe AN is a failed atempt at a Return without Initiation and that's how Mr Hatch is still alive, because it was rewriten. Maybe the AWE DLC is Initiation and the right return will be whatever comes next.
@johnperish
@johnperish 4 жыл бұрын
Ive recently replayed all the games, and im kind of confused. Is it stated somewhere that Alan is still missing? I ask because in the files in Control, it is stated that the only people of note still missing from the Bright Falls AWE were Nightingale and Doctor Hartman. If Alan was missing, wouldnt he be a "person of note?" Also why would they consider him a candidate for Director if he was still missing? And in Quantum Break, at the beginning there is a tv showing what looks like an advertisement or trailer for his book "Return" With Sam reprising his role as Alex Casey/Max Payne. I get the feeling that this black board is discussing the books Departure and Return as literary fiction, and not as actual events as Alan has returned to the world and published them.
@cregerbot8217
@cregerbot8217 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, he is still "missing". The Prime Candidate Program for Alan was actually older and discontinued for him, I think under "Closed Cases". However, the case isn't closed, seeing that documents say that ... Someone, slipped a manuscript page under the Oceanview Motel door marked with the spiral, which is heavily assumed to be the Dark Place, and Alan slipped the page under to get help at some point. In short: he's stuck, but is probably going to be freed at some point.
@iliaszholdasov
@iliaszholdasov 4 жыл бұрын
@@cregerbot8217 The Monomyth has a stage of Rescue from Without in the Return part, so I hope AWE will be about that, at least partly.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
Yes he has been trapped in the Dark place since 2010. He was likely on their radar before the Bright Falls AWE. Similar to how Clay Steward, while not a prime candidate, is on the Bureau's radar as having minor parautalitarian abilities. All the Alan wake references from the Return trailer, the blackboard, a signed copy of the sudden stop signed for Emily burke, and even a monarch employee found playing the video game alan wake on a computer, honestly each feel out of place. These feel like the smoke signals that Alan mentioned he sent out. One of the biggest questions on that game is how exactly is it connected.
@cregerbot8217
@cregerbot8217 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG for Quantum Break's connection, I can definitely see this as the "alternate universe" timelines, as the doors of the Oceanview don't move through time, but space, or Thresholds. So Quantum Break could possibly be another timeline where Alan is just a story, hence a professor is doing a lecture about him. Perhaps in this Universe he's just a story, and like how Alan technically made Max, someone had created Alan. It's a stretch, but the alternate timeline is plausible. How it is different is more up to debate though.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
It feels like there is conflicting evidence. A copy of The Sudden Stop shows up autographed by Alan and dedicated to Emily Burke. You can see it in their tv stand and in a monarch facility. Also when Jack interacts with the blackboard he says, "Alan Wake. I love this guys work." This sounds more like he is referring to a real person. But then they have the video game being played by a monarch employee and the return movie trailer. This would imply he is a fictional character here. It all just feels so random.
@milliewilson1046
@milliewilson1046 3 жыл бұрын
13:31 hm. By any chance could the Barbara in the tennyson report in control been the same Barbara from alan wake?
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
Where does the Tennyson Report mention a Barbara? As far as I remember only a memo from Trench to his secretary uses that name.
@milliewilson1046
@milliewilson1046 3 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG my bad, I realized its in the document under that one. i'm reading it right now in the treach: do not disturb report right under the tennyson report. Yes the secretary, Are they the same Barbara? It could make sense. (But if it's true and it is the same Barbara, wouldn't that mean jessie isnt trench's successor?)
@stapuft
@stapuft 3 жыл бұрын
alan wake is departure, quantum break is initiation and control is return, i say thats why the authors name is crossed out, they hadent decided on a final name yet, and initiation is underlined to highlight that is the "chapter" you are currently playing. alan wake is the "departure" from our common reality, with quantum break being your first "initiation" into the crazy connected remedy universe, with control being both your "return" to it, as well as jessi/dylan's "return" to the FBC. a "depature from normal" giving way to an "initiation into the wyrd" and then a "return to power", the "remedy-verse" IN ITSELF IS the mono-myth. (plus you return to the "bright falls" AWE in the DLC of control.)
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I feel that the Return phase of the heroes journey will be the plot of Alan Wake 2. All of this is essentially from Alan's perspective as the hero so it more closely is aligned with him. The Initiation phase could be aligned with either Control or simply Alan's time in the Dark Place where he has been put through trials. I have heard arguments for both options. The part of the Return phase, 'Rescue from Without' is likely referring to whomever is going to help facilitate his rescue.
@stapuft
@stapuft 3 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG i sort of have this feeling that they are kind of "begging the question" of "what is reality"....like....what really is the difference between the worlds we create via the "darkness", our subconscious minds, and what we PERCEIVE as "reality", like dylan gave a few lines to that effect in his lines with jessi, that made me think he realized he was in a game, maybe that is the end goal, maybe that is the straw that broke alana back, he discovered the reality of his reality, and was driven to try to change his fate, which lead to his psychotic breakdown, and his subsequent....."denial" of his reality, could have lead him to be, "discarded" from the naritive, hence his name being crossed out in the second game, and his return in the third, but as a narrator, an "outside force" instead of "the hero"....i mean i just came up with this right now, so it has many holes..........but its got my brain working on overtime, and im kind of liking it....
@stapuft
@stapuft 3 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG i do agree that when alan wake 2 comes out, it will continue the crossover story, im just on about a 3 way split fence as to what i think the plot will be, and the more i thing the more fences seem to be built, i frikkin love stuff like this!
@fidandbooze
@fidandbooze 24 күн бұрын
It must be great for an game developer to listen to fan stuff like thing and go "omg, i never thought about this connection 😂 Or, Remedy is just bat shit crazy, bringing Easter Eggs to the final level
@Jiffcef
@Jiffcef 4 жыл бұрын
So this may be off topic but what game series should I buy Allen wake or Max Payne since I want to play but don't know what to get... If anybody can answer
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
If you're a fan of Control I'd definitely start with Alan Wake because it will tie into the universe and the next dlc to be released. I just finished Max Payne 1 and it is worth a playthrough as well.
@starlord270
@starlord270 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great!
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch! This blackboard floored me when I first found it.
@TheVentrexian
@TheVentrexian 2 жыл бұрын
With the Alan Wake 2 trailer out now, the neon sign on the right most likely does say initiation, signifiing aw2 is the lost manuscript and the next step in his journey. At least I think so, why did he start writing return first then? Did that mess him? Does the Return easter egg trailer in Quantum Break have anything to do with what's going on in anyway?
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 2 жыл бұрын
I think the return manuscript was more to get us hyped. Looking forward to a a sequel when he is going to return. But it doesn't always work that way. Whether it was planned to need initiation or something they went back to and said, "yep we need to do that." Who knows.
@dearhorse085
@dearhorse085 Жыл бұрын
Alan Wake - Where our hero is forced and struggles to write 3 good manuscripts
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG Жыл бұрын
Basically it. Just a way to force him out of his writer's block
@kunalkishore2897
@kunalkishore2897 3 жыл бұрын
Remedy thinks always for future, but what I know is that FBC is confidential organization how can a whole awe event is explained in a university
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
I still have no clue what causes this appear in a chemistry classroom. Personally I think it is Alan reaching out. But no evidence other than speculation.
@ghostwarrior3878
@ghostwarrior3878 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me curious, if in Alan wake 2, will we see Alice again, is she still trying to find him and does she still love him, or has she moved on and with someone else, and if Alan finds out about that will he spiral?
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 2 жыл бұрын
Last we heard she is likely still single. When she set up the cameras in the house there was no mention of someone else. But in 2012 she did mention that she was in the process of moving on. I'm pretty sure we will see her again. Sucks that the original VA for Alice passed away though.
@NeoMoonSevin
@NeoMoonSevin 3 жыл бұрын
Baba yaga features in Castlevania Lord of Shadows even the chicken legs house is present probably why Remedy dropped it in Alan wake
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
I've only played a couple of the Castlevania games. Dont remember much of them.
@NeoMoonSevin
@NeoMoonSevin 3 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG Play lord of shadows. baba yagas onit with the chicken leg house she help Belmont go into the juke box to get the elements needed to make it to hell
@kunalkishore2897
@kunalkishore2897 3 жыл бұрын
Bro is it possible that alan wake wrote all the events in quantum break like as FBC have been getting reports of many new awe events after 2010 ?
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
It definitely feels like echoes of him are found in the game. Whether he made the whole thing happen, who knows. He has a habit of borrowing existing things so it would be more likely he nudged things.
@berice4390
@berice4390 Жыл бұрын
Coming back to the fact that creation of all life according. To Christianity started with “let they’re be light”
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG Жыл бұрын
Basically it yes! You might enjoy my first video entitled, "Art of Creation" if your mind goes to the theological creation for this series.
@Voltaic_Fire
@Voltaic_Fire Жыл бұрын
Control is the initiation stage. Think about it.
@willisrose9756
@willisrose9756 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still hoping that you'll still make a video about Dark Matter and Regular Matter.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
I intended to do one on that. It will take a lot of research since I dont know much about Astrophysics.
@DFloyd84
@DFloyd84 3 жыл бұрын
I have a simple answer to the final question: the lecture is being held in the Organic Chemistry room due to scheduling conflicts. I wouldn't be surprised if this resulted in an OC lecture being held in the Mechanical Engineering hall or something. Also, you missed scratching out one "Mr. Sc***ch" at 17:08. Woops.
@deadlandplacebo1695
@deadlandplacebo1695 4 жыл бұрын
Why do you mute "scratch"?
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
Mostly because in the game itself the name 'scratch' is always muted and replaced with a scratching sound effect. Sam mentioned that this is because the name itself is unpronounceable by humans. So I just went along I went along with the trend.
@kunalkishore2897
@kunalkishore2897 3 жыл бұрын
How do professor knows all the events in the game ?
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think the professor wrote this. It is a chemistry classroom, not literature.
@MisterDragonbeard
@MisterDragonbeard 3 жыл бұрын
Great series but please reduce the sharp S sounds in your audio!
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still working out the kinks on the audio. I think I got a new microphone since this one came out.
@MisterDragonbeard
@MisterDragonbeard 3 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG awesome. Keep up the great work!
@piratetv1
@piratetv1 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Samantha's house in ordinary Maine? I can't find the reference now. It must be the same ordinary
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. She mentions in her blog the house she bought was in Ordinary. The bureau mentioned that there has been an effort to repopulate the town after it all the people vanished. They never mention the state but honestly what other town of ordinary could they be referring to? One clue is this blog came out at the same time as American Nightmare. That's when Balance Slays the Demon was released by the old gods and they mention Ordinary in their song too.
@piratetv1
@piratetv1 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG it makes more sense that there's only one, although didn't the ordinary AWE happen in 2002? are people actually living there again in 2012? I imagine it's like. Centralia Pennsylvania where they would have decommissioned the town so that no one would find out about the AWE
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
The bureau mentions in the Research Sector that Ordinary has undergone a depopulation effort. Not sure when that started though.
@piratetv1
@piratetv1 4 жыл бұрын
@@GamingUniversityUoG that makes more sense, i never knew when American nightmare came out, they must have been writing control at that point. Presumably Jesse had never heard that song, just the older albums. How does she know Zanes poems? They still existed only in the shoebox Was that the Faden house? Did she have the shoebox at one point?
@fidandbooze
@fidandbooze 24 күн бұрын
Just discovered the blog - dude 😳 you are not telling me that Remedy planed Control since 2012 and wrote a fictional blog for us to find.. jesus 🔥
@KeepAnOpenMind
@KeepAnOpenMind 4 жыл бұрын
In the end you say “you will see in the next video” - has it been already published?
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 4 жыл бұрын
Yes the next one has already been uploaded a while back. You can find them in order in my videos tab.
@KeepAnOpenMind
@KeepAnOpenMind 4 жыл бұрын
Gaming University I think for viewers it would be nice to have a linked posted in the description or something like that, people are used to see all related and proposed videos, instead of navigating the entire channel :)
@SplotchTheCatThing
@SplotchTheCatThing Жыл бұрын
I haven't even got the chance to play Quantum Break, but if I like this video I can put the counter at 666 How could I ever resist? And now that that's done I'll watch it.
@victorvideoeditor
@victorvideoeditor 4 жыл бұрын
A W E = Another Wreat Eideo XD
@Phillip1220
@Phillip1220 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how your videos may interface with the writers of Alan Wake. I don't think it's out of the realm of reasonable possibilities.
@GamingUniversityUoG
@GamingUniversityUoG 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I couldn't say. All of this is my interpretation. I'd love to hear the author's opinions.
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