Burnt Out Valves ? LPG Converted 2010 Astra 1. 6 litre petrol engine.

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Alan Howatt

Alan Howatt

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2010 vauxhall astra 1.6 litre engine with 88k miles on the clock, the exhaust valves are burnt out.

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@spencerhulme1203
@spencerhulme1203 2 жыл бұрын
Not enough credit is given to mechanics such as Alan, attention to detail and a person who cares about his work, where i live in Wales the locals Garages most of them are DIY or do not want to clean and inspect rather just change parts. Thank you for sharing Alan and keep up with the good work.
@alan4x
@alan4x 2 жыл бұрын
thanks spencer, appreciate it
@sheffielduk3428
@sheffielduk3428 Жыл бұрын
Yup here in Sheffield it's hard to even get a mechanic to book me in for a timing belt on a 2.0tdci mondeo 2013 because they only want discs and pads jobs haha
@marinusapeldoorn6631
@marinusapeldoorn6631 2 жыл бұрын
It's running so well now, I bet it can do 50 mph in first gear now 😜😜 thanks for the video!!!
@finnhogan7889
@finnhogan7889 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Alan 📹 hope your keeping well 👍
@patkelly7999
@patkelly7999 2 жыл бұрын
Great job Alan👌👍🙂
@MrToranaGuy
@MrToranaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
If it was run too lean on the LPG ( gas ) it will have contributed greatly to burning the exhaust valves out. We used to see that problem down here in Australia on older mixer ring setups that were usually too small for the engines they were fit to. Engines run lean and burnt the exhaust valves. Instead of fitting a decent LPG system and tuning it correctly and not buggering up the engine! On a modern injected lpg setup, unless someone has input the wrong settings, it shouldn't have run lean unless it has had a failure like a filter block up, a lock off valve jam part way closed or even maybe the gas service line between the tank and the regulator may have been damaged and kinked to reduce the flow. Finding out the failure of the LPG system might help you understand why the valves burnt out. I reckon it starting running badly on LPG and the fault was mis diagnosed as a problem with the LPG hardware, and it was just disabled and it ran good enough on petrol that the owner didn't notice the problem with the engine until it was way too late.
@TheCheesenChips
@TheCheesenChips 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to Vauxhall's, they litter autotrader with, '....spares and repair, engine problems.' From no compression to bearing knock and they are less than ten years old and under 100000 miles. Noticed it's petrols and diesels. Very strange I haved noticed this for the last few years, even Peugeot's and Fiat's seem to be more reliable.
@pj2123
@pj2123 2 жыл бұрын
Did my sons 2008 1.6 focus engine a few years ago also due to bad compression (valves) it had done around 120000 miles mostly on LPG and I was amazed how little wear there was in the bores. It does have a dosing tank fitted with the LPG system that helps to add lubrication to the mix. The car is still going strong.
@sammyd7857
@sammyd7857 2 жыл бұрын
Lpg is much better than petrol. There are Ford rtv utes doing over 400k. Also the lpg taxis did these sort of k's too
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym Жыл бұрын
I can go away lublialcation i make a TAP igniton timing system
@mazdaman1286
@mazdaman1286 Жыл бұрын
Opel vauxhall went cheap and this is common on even factory cars. Used to look after a small fleet of lpg belongs 1.4 Van's. Never any problems oil still clean. Ngk laser spark plugs never wore out. Some had done over 200,000 miles. Just clutch and brakes really.
@variovent
@variovent 2 жыл бұрын
That's Vauxhall/Opel "quality". Total garbage. I have an 2,0 Duratec HE Mondeo MK4, with Prins LPG installation and 150 miles on it and no problem whatsoever. Runs like a champ even on 120m+ high speed.
@stiggyness1976
@stiggyness1976 2 жыл бұрын
Oh and Alan, to answer your question (Why would you LPG convert a 1.6 litre engine?) The answer is simple, say that Astra does 50 miles on a tenna petrol, on LPG it will do 100 miles or there abouts for the same money!
@FuelPoverty
@FuelPoverty 2 жыл бұрын
@Non-Stick Pan On a small 3 or 4 cylinder, it takes about 11-12,000 miles of use to pay back. On my car that was 3 months use, still using the car 7 years and 120,000 miles later, on my daughter's car it took a little over a year. A good starting point is to find out if the car is or was sold elsewhere with a manufacturer approved/fitted conversion (Like the Dacia range is now). Some engines are better/more suitable than others. There are some other benefits, e.g. the oil and the engine internals stay very clean, however all the ignition components become more critical, better plugs needed, etc, etc. Noted too that this car is not DVLA registered as Gas Bi-Fuel, which immediately brings the standard of the conversion and maintenance into question.
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym Жыл бұрын
and its possible easy not direct injection
@clumpfab2740
@clumpfab2740 2 жыл бұрын
I’m literally around the corner from you ( near tc Harrison) and I offer cylinder head skimming services, crack testing, valve lapping in, If you ever need it 😊
@MattyEngland
@MattyEngland 2 жыл бұрын
If you're gonna test Alan's crack, I definitely don't want to see that on KZbin thks 😉
@unknown476Z
@unknown476Z 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattyEngland 🤣🤣🤣
@dp8685
@dp8685 2 жыл бұрын
Vauxhall dropped selling dual fuel cars for this reason. They even put a warning in service literature to say for every tank of lpg owners must then run a tank of fuel or valve burnout will occur. So many warranty claims. There is a lot of corolla hybrid taxis up north have lpg conversion. The taxi company sells it to drivers as if will save money but they then end up needing a new engine around 80k as damages valves and head gaskets.
@allandavies9488
@allandavies9488 2 жыл бұрын
I have ground in many valves over the years using the 'valve grinding tool' like you used. I got blisters too! This was the easy bit though, the very dirty bit was de coking the head with a drill and wire brush attachments. A filthy job. I used to use a dab or two of paraffin on the grinding paste to ease things, then to check if all sealed when the valves were replaced, I'd put paraffin in the combustion chambers and check if any leaked past the valves. My valve compressor has to be held under compression bu one hand whilst putting the Colette's in with the other. A bit of a bit of a struggle usually involving a bit of bad language! You were lucky the valve seats were good.
@denishoulan1491
@denishoulan1491 2 жыл бұрын
Decoke, thats a thing of the past really. Modern cars run so clean unlike the old days.. Only modern GDI engines coke up and they coke up the inlets really badly. We mostly replace valves these days due to cam belt failures.
@bobsurrey6686
@bobsurrey6686 2 жыл бұрын
These non turbocharged astras I’ve found to be flat as a fart, they can’t get out of their own way
@techgamer1597
@techgamer1597 2 жыл бұрын
"flat as a fart" - ill be using that one somewhen
@Robertas_Grigas
@Robertas_Grigas 2 жыл бұрын
Gets fking smoked by a gsi
@stiggyness1976
@stiggyness1976 2 жыл бұрын
I've converted many of my cars to lpg for the last 10+ years. I've never had a burnt out valve or anything bad. However, lpg burns alot hotter than petrol, especially if it's a lean mixture, setting up the fuel map is very important. But if the engine and fuel systems haven't been maintained correctly it makes no matter what fuel it's running on.
@kevinthacker8349
@kevinthacker8349 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve fitter lpg, and have been running car on it from 2003. , Never had a Burnt valve Also have friends with lpg car and one is a 1.6 vauxhall Astra 2001and sill runs light a dream.
@maciekapocaliptic
@maciekapocaliptic 2 жыл бұрын
That was definetely lean mixture. Incorrectly selected system components lead to forcing controller corrections, which in turn causes lean mixture and costly problems. Most often these are the cheapest injectors (like valtek) and a uncorrectly selected pressure regulator, but injectors are the most common cause of installation problems. Had for 11 years peugeot 406 2.0 with LPG. I bought it after conversion. And from the very beginning I had problems with the stability of the gas map, which resulted in damage to the head gasket. Only the installation of dedicated injectors and the correct regulator limited my service to replacing the filter once a year and that's it.
@FuelPoverty
@FuelPoverty 2 жыл бұрын
@@maciekapocaliptic I agree with you, I've had a Chevrolet Aveo 1.2 running on gas full time for 120,000 miles now. Around 95,000 I got a misfire and low compression on one cylinder, feared the worst like Alan is showing here. Head off, turned out that just one exhaust valve was stuck open a little due to carbon buildup on the the stem, and very soft valve springs, nothing to do with running on gas at all, just replaced both exhaust valves in that cylinder, and checked/cleaned/reground the rest. My take on it is that there is no need to use coarse paste now, the machining is so much more precise, I have only used fine for 20+ years now. My car has OMVL injectors which are cheap like Valtek ones, and they need a strip down and wash out at least every 15k to stop bad running from sticking caused by heavy ends build up, even though they are set at the correct angle to prevent it. We also have a 3 cylinder 208 that does have Valteks, will be keeping a close eye on that one.
@elcheapotravel5914
@elcheapotravel5914 2 жыл бұрын
agreed, problems with burnt valves on LPG are like 90% due to bad setting of the system, too lean generally but too rich also cooks the valves because LPG doesnt have the "cooling" effect of rich mixture in gasoline it will eventually melt your cat converters also
@lindathefish7736
@lindathefish7736 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, had a pug 107 3 cylinder Toyota engine. Converted it at 10k did injectors at 60k because they were cheap clattery rubbish and gas filter every 10k. Sold it at 80k 4 years old its still on the road and was a 2008! But who bought it wanted it for delivering takeaways! I’ve only seen burnt valves on the old single point mixer systems with or without crappy stepper motors.
@the_retired_mechanic
@the_retired_mechanic 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to see cars with burning exhaust valves on a regular basis try working on minis. They are very common due to build up of carbon on the back of the valves holding them slightly open and that allows them to burn out
@usuallyfixingtinkering
@usuallyfixingtinkering 2 жыл бұрын
brilliant video alan. Valve grinding is such a thing of the past with modern cars been made to a greater tolerance but its great to see how the process is done!
@i.a565
@i.a565 Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate this video is educational
@alan4x
@alan4x Жыл бұрын
thanks and a happy new year
@dave-huston-dublin
@dave-huston-dublin 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Alan, I use to do gas conversions in the 80s, people got it done so the could claim vat on LPG, but couldnt on petrol. Looking forward to the next one.👍
@RICHLES01
@RICHLES01 2 жыл бұрын
Had an ex council one 1.6 2001. Valves burnt out…might be an Astra thing
@chasmcl42
@chasmcl42 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video Alan, i used to grind them in using a power drill on the stems (i know its not good) to be honest i dont think i have the enthusiasm now to take a head off, ill leave it to the experts.👍👍
@adriangurges8244
@adriangurges8244 2 жыл бұрын
When the lpg conversion is done badly the engine may run to lean or rich on lpg This results into these kind of problems.
@keithrimmer3
@keithrimmer3 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Al Vauxhall made LPG factory fitted available on the 1.6 engines
@garyward6673
@garyward6673 2 жыл бұрын
They did but I believe the factory fit ones had a different part number for the head assembly, leading me to believe the valves and seats were different. Could be wrong but someone should be able to confirm. I’d be looking to fix the mapping on that and fit a flashlube system to help for future. The trusty old rover k series was unmodified for lpg but you take the head off those for a new gasket every 50k anyway (just kidding). Paid £950 for my conversion on mg tf last year, paid for itself in fuel already - didn’t get affected by the panic buying and with current prices rocketing am rather thankful !
@johnathanpearson3203
@johnathanpearson3203 2 жыл бұрын
Vauxhall did do a dual fuel astra. Unfortunately they stopped it when the government backed diesel instead. Due to a white paper published by a university professor who said diesel is clean. When the scandal broke he said the car companies told him they were cleaner! (After giving some money to the university). 🤔 The UK now exports LPG to the EU ☹️ instead of using it. 🤔
@Witheredgoogie
@Witheredgoogie 2 жыл бұрын
If you just took it out around the block those petrol Astra fans don't normally cut in. infact they normally just cut in stuck in heavy traffic etc - which may indicate it is still running hot ??- somebody may have messed about with the mapping setting up the LPG etc?
@TheDaf95xf
@TheDaf95xf 2 жыл бұрын
With what’s going on in Ukrainian 🇺🇦 it’s Fantastic 🤩 watching a Alan fixing video. Half an hour job Monica said lol 😂 No Tesco 🤔 Take care matey cheers Stevie 😀
@BotsisAnargyros
@BotsisAnargyros Жыл бұрын
The LPG System was programmed wrong. Probably autocalibration and nothing else done to it. There are examples of this car in Greece with over 400.000 Km with LPG. Nowadays they are calibrated to burn 90%LPG most of the the time and 10 to 15% petrol at all times. You can have your programmer calibrate for over 4000rpm to switch to 90% petrol for example. The fuel savings are significant. In Greece petrol is 2,1€ and the LPG in 0.69€.. So the conversion costs pays for itself in 2 months or less. Conversion cost is 800€ all in with labour and taxes and the system cost. LPG systems also need proper maintenance every year 😊
@Finglesham
@Finglesham 2 жыл бұрын
That takes me back to the 1970s and my Mini Van. That was bad inlet valves. You got away easy. I used to mark the surface with a pencil so that when I had removed the pencil it was OK. Now cars are so well made. My 2005 Mondeo Duratec 2L is so quiet you wouldn't know it was running..That job must have cost more than the car was worth.
@IustinianP
@IustinianP 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 1 min in the video,and already thinking this car is owned by a romanian guy😂😂😂
@traqnsavov822
@traqnsavov822 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen taxis Dacia 1,4 at 300,000 kilometers with the original valves !! the Dacha is more durable than the Opel!!
@albonroach2315
@albonroach2315 Ай бұрын
Great work when you know your stuff. I wonder how is the compression 2 years later.
@iankelly6663
@iankelly6663 2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine had a Ford focus titanium with lpg conversion and exact same thing happened to is valves he ended up scrapping it great content Alan 👍
@kristofkolosnagy9152
@kristofkolosnagy9152 6 ай бұрын
Did it run on a lean mixture? Also valve clearances must be checked and if needed adjusted every 40 000 kms
@normanstephens5391
@normanstephens5391 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alan. Well what can I say. Memories, memories memories. My memories are that old, my tin of grinding past stood about 2.5 inches tall, had a lid on the top for Course paste and the bottom lid contained the Fine paste. My valve compressor is still in my shed (somewhere) and those Collets, were pesky little rascals as you said to re-seat. Did that engine need replacement valve stem seals or am I too much of a Dinosaur to think that. See you in the next one. 👍👍
@aymenhasan
@aymenhasan 2 жыл бұрын
Almost the same situation with me. Bought my 2013 Astra in 2014 (13k miles), after 6 months I fitted an LPG system as it was 50p a litre and the car was only getting 31mpg :( Saved myself a lot of money over the years. And at 65k miles, cylinder 3, one of the exhaust valves burnt out. Sorted it, but uncanny how similar the situation is
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym Жыл бұрын
12:36 holly f... thats lpg injectors pipes is bad different places and position.AND NO SEALING CLAMPS ENGINE Can run on added air.And its 16 valves 2v for piston and that pipes is not flow lpg for 2 valves but only on its bad burning in combusion
@sheffielduk3428
@sheffielduk3428 Жыл бұрын
Thus exact engine and year model car was my first car and I had it for 5k miles, head gasket went at 75k absolute dog shit and I've had diesels ever since... stayed away from Vauxhall hahaha
@madalinmotea8804
@madalinmotea8804 Жыл бұрын
My laguna on lpg has the same symptoms, shacking very badly however, compression test was done and is in within parameters, plugs were changed, ignition coils are good and still got a misfire. I reckon it s the ecu? Maybe needs a calibration?
@timhancock6626
@timhancock6626 2 жыл бұрын
LPG conversion and valves burning was a very common combination back in the 90s. It just runs too hot.
@warntheidiotmasses7114
@warntheidiotmasses7114 Жыл бұрын
Don't buy a car with LPG conversion. What happens is the engine runs lean, and when it runs lean it's like a blow torch melting the valves. You can see evidence of running lean on a motorcycle chrome pipe when it looks rainbow in color. The jets are likely plugged up in the carburetor due to old or dirty gas, and when that happens the engine runs hotter than it should. In this case it looks like it melted the valves.
@michaelthorpe9560
@michaelthorpe9560 2 жыл бұрын
exhaust valves burning out like that is because the LPG gas is running too lean,, the LPG gas system needs to be running slightly rich,, this LPG system fitted to this car is running very weak,, and that will cause it to run very hot,, hence the destroyed exhaust valves!,, the new valves you fitted wont last very long without the LPG gas tune up being done first!
@robertdady7126
@robertdady7126 Жыл бұрын
With my correctly fitted lpg conversion an valve oil kit was fitted as standard ,this is to protect valves ,did this vehicle have a valve oil kit,if not then bad workmanship, be warned my vehicle has done over 100,000 miles on lpg and still runs fine
@richaddulieu1967
@richaddulieu1967 2 жыл бұрын
I have a jag 4.2 v8 on lpg 4years ago a must with today's fuel ⛽ price runs great but will be keeping a very close eye on it after this, great content anyway 😀 👍🏻 😄
@aciddiver1978
@aciddiver1978 Жыл бұрын
Why would one convert a car to lpg? Thats probably what destroyed the engine.
@saffisaw8128
@saffisaw8128 Жыл бұрын
1:44 Eh....... To save fuel i guess. You're definitely missing the point.
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym Жыл бұрын
14:54 you do it WRONG ALAN. use a driller glued valve to driller and rottate. using hand you doing this not perfect.
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that it was the same exhaust valve (i.e. left hand looking into combustion chamber) in all three bad cylinders. Seems like that's probably not coincidence.
@tecnaman9097
@tecnaman9097 2 жыл бұрын
With burnt out valves like that it wouldn't have run on gas at all. If the gas is delivered by a mixer or by dedicated injectors tapped into the inlet manifold on that unit, all you would have heard is an almighty "WTF was that" explosion like a shotgun blast and any rubber bellows connection likely blown to the shizen housen. 30 years experience with LPG in Australia on Fords and Commodore taxis. Anyhu, good job Alan. Hope the cab business is getting back to normal in the old dart.
@Mr78Maximus
@Mr78Maximus 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alan😎 yes it's because when was gas installed they didn't change ignition . My father got same problem years ago with Ford Granada 2.8. You doing very good and positive videos Take care mate👍😎.
@aciddiver1978
@aciddiver1978 Жыл бұрын
These are good engines when you maintain them and dont convert to lpg, as you never should anyway
@DarrenBoxhall
@DarrenBoxhall 2 жыл бұрын
Gas has burnt the valves and they have kept driving it as it got worse and worse, then they disconnected the gas thinking that was the problem, then it just got driven around and the leaking valves just kept getting chewed from heat even on petty
@aciddiver1978
@aciddiver1978 Жыл бұрын
Good old mechanic works👍 should be more of that and less of the technician stuff.
@lindathefish7736
@lindathefish7736 2 жыл бұрын
Those 1.6 engines are gutsy as hell. The tech was old in 2010. This Astra is heavier than it’s predecessor and they to terrible mpg around town. The old mixer lpg systems were bad for causing backfires and burnt valves but the polish multiponts stag etc I used to fit years back were always fine for me as long as you made sure the fuel trim was not excessive after auto set up.
@DarrenBoxhall
@DarrenBoxhall 2 жыл бұрын
I like it, but wtf did you do to the surface of the head? Did you use 80g paper or something?
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym Жыл бұрын
1st 7:32 Alan there is bad width of injectors pipes its different when its must be identical. in this example longer pipe its lpg not on time. 2nd not correct angles its must same and placed same like gasoline injectors. its give a diferent time of lpg in mainfold and in combustion.
@AnilKumar-yn6ns
@AnilKumar-yn6ns 2 жыл бұрын
Valve saver kit on lpg install could prevent the problem
@dannythomas7902
@dannythomas7902 2 жыл бұрын
50$ fix once head is off, I did a toyota head my 3 year old used the lap stick to seat the valves, I did not go over them it drove well
@marklittler784
@marklittler784 2 жыл бұрын
Probably supermarket fuel lol
@bigsighmusicdroneblogs1843
@bigsighmusicdroneblogs1843 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Id love to shadow you a few day# learn how to do the latest cars timing. Ect. Oh do you do repairs to outsiders lo, iv a transit custom. Meds a few bits lol .
@davidheslop2879
@davidheslop2879 2 жыл бұрын
I just done the same job there not hydraulic tappets mine had shimed tappets how did you get away with out doing them .
@Whiskershaven01
@Whiskershaven01 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please help me how can i find out if my car need valve saver fluid fitted with lpg..its corolla verso 1.8 16 valve 1.8..every installer telling different story..thanks
@alan4x
@alan4x 2 жыл бұрын
not many people really know the long term effects of running lpg but if it were my car i would use it
@Whiskershaven01
@Whiskershaven01 2 жыл бұрын
@@alan4x is valve saver really helping and does it do any harm if using? Many thanks
@alan4x
@alan4x 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whiskershaven01 it probably does help but i have never used it, i do believe the lpg causes the valves to run hotter which can burn them out
@Whiskershaven01
@Whiskershaven01 2 жыл бұрын
@@alan4x thankyou
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym Жыл бұрын
because it is Opel with lpg. if it a vw with shit mexico piston head its works better and longer
@nawayodadzie4326
@nawayodadzie4326 Жыл бұрын
About fixing the gasket, is it okay not to apply grease or something else on it?
@leejones3172
@leejones3172 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not missing the point, but your office gurl is missing some lips 🤣🤣
@brucew4726
@brucew4726 2 жыл бұрын
Memories. As a DIY mechanic, I think the last time I ground valves was back in the early 1970's. I have a valve compressor somewhere in the garage, but I haven't seen it for years. Anyway, it wouldn't have worked on those recessed valves on that engine, so I would have had to replace it anyway.
@ukmud6218
@ukmud6218 2 жыл бұрын
First main question is why would you buy a vauxhall
@steve0680657
@steve0680657 2 жыл бұрын
I think you can use a cordless drill attached to the valve stem to grind them faster / more easily
@peterbeyer5755
@peterbeyer5755 2 жыл бұрын
Will I valves get burnt out if I do an electric conversion?
@okanx4737
@okanx4737 Жыл бұрын
You don't correctly grind valve seats.
@jezol1994
@jezol1994 2 жыл бұрын
LPG takes longer to burn hence the burnt out valves. LPG also has a higher octane rating so is more resistant to knock; ideally, the ignition should be advanced so that LPG start burning sooner and is burnt when leaving the combustion chamber and then the valves would not burn out but that means remapping the ECU and no one really does it when converting to LPG.
@traqnsavov822
@traqnsavov822 2 жыл бұрын
only the lean mixture
@c4r5on88
@c4r5on88 2 жыл бұрын
He planned ahead for the coming fuel prices.
@vtecdestroyer5653
@vtecdestroyer5653 Жыл бұрын
Heyyy! Does lpg on cars affects the valves?
@paulprescott7913
@paulprescott7913 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Alan my life i have never seen valves that bad. As you and others point out its got be something to do with the lpg conversion as they have run very lean for while to get that bad.
@lindathefish7736
@lindathefish7736 2 жыл бұрын
If I were to guess I’d say the gas filter is choked, cylinder 4 must have been first off the gas manifold and getting the best of what gas pressure was being provided. The multipoint lpg systems can compensate based on the lambda reading on the exhaust. You set it up on idle usually, take it for a spin with the laptop on it and check the fuel trim. On non turbos they rarely need any manual setup. The problem comes when the in line filter is choked or you take the cheap injectors past 50k. They are both cheap to buy and fitted with hose clips. Sadly people don’t service them and run them to death. The EML light will come on due to lambda being out but ppl just ignore it and burn the valves out. Direct injection killed the lpg industry because the petrol injectors on VAG engines used the fuel to cool them. Converting to gas burnt out those fuel injectors. Ecotecs used old multipoint injection at the manifold so should have been fine. The mpg on those 1.6 ECOs was dreadful though, so I’m guessing Vauxhall was running them richer to avoid similar issues on petrol… the smell from them when cold was like going back to the 90s and manual chokes.
@pauloshea9978
@pauloshea9978 11 ай бұрын
Yep, had this exact problem on a 2006 astra 1.4.
@cowsarsc
@cowsarsc 2 жыл бұрын
I bet the reason for this conversion being done is because those engines burn fuel like it's going out of fashion.I had a 2014 with 24000mls and it averaged 27mpg. Pure crap slow as fcuk aswell. I swapped it after a year for a 1.7 cdti. power and mpg were night and day
@Witheredgoogie
@Witheredgoogie 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a very abused car to get those figures, they do need stuff like air filters,plugs, oil changes etc.
@Random-nf7qb
@Random-nf7qb 2 жыл бұрын
The intro was like the intro of a porn film...
@danielkareu1315
@danielkareu1315 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information. Saved me from doing an LPG conversion.
@alan4x
@alan4x Жыл бұрын
lmao, i too would stear away from lpg
@kirwanjohn101
@kirwanjohn101 2 жыл бұрын
Must have cost a fortune to do this repair?
@aciddiver1978
@aciddiver1978 Жыл бұрын
Is that headgasket an upgraded one?
@CORRIGEEN71
@CORRIGEEN71 Жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine how much all that work cost has to be 1knplus great to watch a top mechanic. At work
@alan4x
@alan4x Жыл бұрын
😊
@shifty2755
@shifty2755 2 жыл бұрын
The ford focus also suffered from this.
@rudolphking9971
@rudolphking9971 2 жыл бұрын
fast forward today smart move astra owner
@CableWrestler
@CableWrestler 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Molly is a sight for sore eyes! 🙂
@Robertas_Grigas
@Robertas_Grigas 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a faulty lpg system
@MeFixingEverything
@MeFixingEverything 10 ай бұрын
Such a pleasure to watch your videos. Great help as well.
@alan4x
@alan4x 10 ай бұрын
So nice of you👍cheers
@sammyd7857
@sammyd7857 2 жыл бұрын
The valves have cracked. Faulty valves
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym
@StopTeoriomSpiskowym Жыл бұрын
16:29 oh you not check intake valves?
@richaddulieu1967
@richaddulieu1967 2 жыл бұрын
Astra 1 cyclender for sale
@FDbroadcasting
@FDbroadcasting Жыл бұрын
is this the xep engine?oor xer?
@ldnwholesale8552
@ldnwholesale8552 2 жыл бұрын
BBQ fuel is for BBQs. Not engines. Factory LPG works fine, aftermarket seldom so and more so on later efi engines. Where they seldom ever run properly. BBQ fuel was very popular here in Oz but I have had a litany of disaster on a range of vehicles. Carby engines burn out the carbys,, and that is not the ones that catch fire! Valves, had a Chev that I put better heads on that in effect the valves burrowed up the ports, in a few months. No end of other engines that just burn out in general. Ford V8s are bad. They simply cannot get the volume of fuel required so run lean all the time. GM quadrajets are bad news [on petrol an excellent carb] as they simply bend with the extra heat. The fuel in the bowls cool the carbs. Holleys are far better but too often the floats sink! As for gas on an Astra?? Why? Gas on efi cars, the obvious you make the throttle intake smaller to get a venturi. And they blow out airflow meters very regularly. Or blow the airfilter apart when they backfire,, often!! Some models with the injectors in the chamber or close to the valves simply burn the injectors. Direct injection very bad news,, though that is even on petrol!!
@coopers4491
@coopers4491 2 жыл бұрын
Great content great channel 👍👍👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 will need a DSG change in the summer on my mk4 mondeo 2 ltr sport /SOLD THE MK3/
@wildracoon666
@wildracoon666 2 жыл бұрын
Lpg conversions are fine if you fit a valve saver kit which cools the exaust valves the brc system is the best had mine done 5 years ago and no problem, And the reason to have it done its 0.70p per lt not £1.50p 😎 ps the guy who did my crv was Carl at Worsley auto gas Salford
@makantahi3731
@makantahi3731 2 жыл бұрын
did not have to cool intake valves, because no petrol that lubes and cools
@simonmorris6182
@simonmorris6182 2 жыл бұрын
Lpg absolutely is hard on exhaust valves. Much more suitable fuel for large displacement, high torque at low rev, low reving engines. The valve jobs have to be better than what's good enough for petrol engines. Always advise customer to run only on petrol for the first 1,500 miles to assist in Seat bed in without burning.
@jakespeed6515
@jakespeed6515 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you put LPG on a 1.6? I put an LPG on a 1.1 Renault Clio just for work, who payed me 0.39p a mile 🤔 Do the maths! 😉 LPG was 0.49p at the time.
@Honky_Konky_Phooey
@Honky_Konky_Phooey 2 жыл бұрын
These are god awful cars as it is let alone wasting money on lpg 🤦‍♂️. Utter scrap. Cracking video Alan hurry up with a new van 👍🇬🇧
@davidstokes6079
@davidstokes6079 Жыл бұрын
Just watched this video. I was involved with taxis, in Sydney Australia, in the 80s - 90s using LPG. Valves burning out only occurred on pre 86/pre unleaded model cars, once that happened, heads were fitted with hardened valve seats. We ran mainly straight LPG conversions but if you had a dual fuel system, you had to use petrol regularly otherwise the carby or fuel injector could clog up and you couldn't run on petrol. I used to cold start on petrol which kept the throttle body clear. Now that we no longer have local car manufacturing LPG is dying as Camry hybrids make up the majority of taxis.
@neilobusk
@neilobusk 2 жыл бұрын
Quality work....get yourself a kebab....:) onsite.......sooooo lucky... :) Any video you do quick or not.. :) N x
@stylo8133
@stylo8133 2 жыл бұрын
Come on man. Too much ads
@mikeberry304
@mikeberry304 2 жыл бұрын
There's been some burning inside there Alan youve earned your crust on that one , hope it wasn't a warranty job , great video 👍👍👍🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
@agmus11
@agmus11 2 жыл бұрын
Conversion to LPG is not a problem. But you need a good regulation of LPG ECU after instalation. If its not done correct then you will have problems with the engine.
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 2 жыл бұрын
That was a nice video; liked and subscribed Thank the Greenphissers' minds again, they keep us in business; Every time i saw that, the catalytic converter was partially plugged up; If the exhaust is free flowing ,no exaust valves are going to burn; the clearance may shrink a little bit after a while, after a long while, but they will not burn.
@doaked
@doaked 2 жыл бұрын
Flexible fuel pipe pushed on the valve stem, other end in a cordless drill. Wee blast one direction, wee blast back, finish with a tiny bit of manual grind. Takes the pain right out of grinding valves.
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