JBL Charge 5 EQ Guide - how to use the Charge 5 in-app Equaliser 👍

[@alanrossreviews]

JBL Charge 5: geni.us/jblcharge5 #AmazonCommissionsEarned

[@Darrell-o7j]

To be honest with you I like it right out of the box. The charge 5 is a really awesome speaker. I don't even need to update it at all.❤ Another great review thanks Alan🎉

[@yangyangaditya4646]

I found the best setting for my ear is +1 Bass -1 Mid +1 Treble And this EQ really make the Pop, instrument, rock genre sounds better.

[@alanrossreviews]

Yup, a good old smiley face signature 😁

[@mikehancock6280]

You described the equalizer function perfectly.

[@alanrossreviews]

i win i win win win 😁😁😁 ty!

[@waynedexter]

Your per usual meticulousness is much appreciated ☺️

[@alanrossreviews]

as always, thank you 👍👍😁

[@alanrossreviews]

tracks: 12:14 OAKUM - Coast (feat. Airi) 15:22 CAJOR, Mara Necia - I Will Be Here 18:45 Dirty Palm & Benix - Legacy

[@TheMacGeek]

I just bought the JBL Charge 5 this week. It’s now the best sounding speaker that I have at the volumes I listen. I’m loving the equalizer after the firmware update. I keep my EQ off for most music and voice podcasts but find +1 or +2 bass great for rock and jazz music with drums playing. Great review as always!

[@hard2findtv330]

I just got it too man and never knew it had no 3.5mm Jack I, devastated

[@TheMacGeek]

@@hard2findtv330 Devistated? Didn't you look up the specifications before you bought the JBL charge 5? Everything is bluetooth nowadays anyways. But if you really want a good speaker with 3.5mm audio input, try out the Sony SRS-XB43. I own two of them and sometimes use them in stereo or party mode. They sound AMAZING, and have a somewhat fuller, louder sound than the JBL charge 5 (because the Sony has 2 drivers and 2 tweeters in each speaker). When you pair them, you have 4 drivers, and 4 tweeters for pretty good sound. But you can't use stereo pairing mode while also using the audio input jack. If you use the 3.5mm audio in, you can only use it with one speaker. I use them in stereo mode on my iPhone over bluetooth.

[@youngtk7993]

I also leave the eq off

[@wb3213]

just got mine last week . Nice speaker !

[@lullaby.808]

Heyy, i got a question.My spotify eq has a classic smile face eq right know and i just bought Charge 5 recently.When im using the app eq should i delete my spotify eq ? I dont wanna any crack sound or pushed my radiators too much for possible damages. By the way your channel is so good.

[@alanrossreviews]

yes i would not use any eq, the charge 5 has a decent balance on its own and you can tweak it via its own app.

[@doodday4123]

No matter how subtle changes are I think the good thing here is now you have a choice of how your desired output that you personally want.

[@alanrossreviews]

yes you certainly have an option you didn't have before.

[@stevewendes9091]

Very interesting, thank you.

[@alanrossreviews]

You are welcome!

[@thomasecallaghan1111]

Awaiting the next livestream Rossy! 😁👍

[@alanrossreviews]

it will come......just a matter of time 🤭🥃🥃👍

[@hugoboss9470ify]

good news for the jbl charger5 lovers excelenet job

[@alanrossreviews]

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[@gol.droger3197]

Hello Alan, I'm a new subscriber.I love ur wonderful explanations of the speakers which convinced me to subscribe. I was wondering if you could make a comparison video about JBL boombox 2 vs JBL Xtreme 3. I'm confused in which one should I buy?

[@alanrossreviews]

well the bigguns are a bit big for me to test fully cause of neighbours but i may pull the trigger on a boombox...watch this space and welcome aboard 😁😁

[@ThibautMahringer]

Watch his videos of Onyx Studio 6 / 7 and Xtreme 3. Boombox 2 have the same bass as Onyx Studio 6 / 7, the only differences are that Boombox 2 is stereo and way louder

[@J.R.Psych74]

Hello Alan. I just bought two Charge 5 TT and while using the updated version of the app, I can use one Charge 5 using the equalizer. But by using the second Charge 5 either in mono or in stereo, I cannot use the equalizer. It's set to flat. Is this normal? Is there a way around it to utilize the equalizer with both Charge 5s in stereo? Thank you.

[@alanrossreviews]

@@J.R.Psych74 no its a jbl limitation

[@J.R.Psych74]

@@alanrossreviews Oh crap.🤔 Can you suggest an alternative equalizer that will work. Thanks

[@alanrossreviews]

@@J.R.Psych74 any third party app should work

[@J.R.Psych74]

@@alanrossreviews Thanks for your suggestion.

[@ekfot3600]

Very helpful video! Thanks You :D

[@alanrossreviews]

You're welcome!

[@kacpermichalec9721]

Thanks for this video. I'm gonna test my charge 5 after watching it :D

[@alanrossreviews]

Have fun!

[@leomie1000]

Hi the charge 5 dose not come through my android phone when I get a call. eg hands free when using it in my van.why is this ????

[@alanrossreviews]

Does not support phone calls

[@techderaudios]

I do hope jbl gets 5band or more near future the 3 band only changes upper bass and highs to harsh my nd model even now sounds worse with this update 😅

[@alanrossreviews]

seems these jbl firmware updates are as hit and miss as ever 😂😂

[@NeopolitianNPLTN]

I love the voice you use for the people that complain about things. It's very funny. Do you think they ever considered going to a 5 band EQ or would that be TOO MUCH CONTROL?? lol

[@alanrossreviews]

yup! too much control, it took this long for 3 band eq i would not expect 5 bands any time soon 😂

[@brokenframe6535]

I have 0.6.1 Firmware and for me is perfect.

[@kaviya4780]

hi alan, jbl charge 5 which version is best ,tl tt or nd ,what is different

[@alanrossreviews]

sorry been a while since i looked into the differences so im out of touch.

[@roscodotemmas]

Yes sirr Alan🏆

[@alanrossreviews]

it wouldn't be the same without you 👌

[@alanrossreviews]

Chapters 0:00 intro 4:51 EQ measurements 12:14 50% sound test 15:22 75% sound test 18:45 100% sound test 20:16 summary

[@philjoysavio6805]

given the eq's on the flip, ch & xt...atleast u can play with it to some extent...like it or hate it

[@alanrossreviews]

yup, a bit 🤗

[@imericsario9028]

great review as always. is it normal for the charge 5 to get warm when playing even at lower volumes? it's even warmer at the power & bluetooth button. thanks Alan.

[@alanrossreviews]

not for me and not at low volume.

[@puk4763]

What battery performance are people getting at mid volume? Seems quite poor. C. 12 hrs😢

[@ryanusher3401]

Is this not available in the US on Android phones? Bought a brand new charge5 that's already updated, yet no EQ in the app?!

[@alanrossreviews]

what firmware are you on?

[@Pablo-hw5ik]

Two questions alan… 1. If I change the eq through the app on my phone and then borrow my charge 5 to another person without the app, the eq setting is carried through the speaker from device to device or they need to have the app? 2. The best setting for you is bass +2 mid 0 and treble +1?

[@alanrossreviews]

yes eq sticks to speaker. well all round i just simply go +1 bass. it all depends on your volume. for lower volumes then +2 0 +1 works for me.

[@Pablo-hw5ik]

@@alanrossreviews thank you very much for your response Alan. Take care 💪

[@glodikayembe4728]

-2, -2, -2. The best for clarity in song

[@udim7284]

Thanks for another great video. now my Charge 5 sounds much better 😉

[@alanrossreviews]

well i hope so 🤗🤗

[@ThibautMahringer]

Just got a Charge 5, I put the treble to -1 immediately as it was a bit bright (I also have a TL Charge 5). It sounds great with that small change 😁

[@alanrossreviews]

it sounds different to the first charge 5?;

[@ThibautMahringer]

@@alanrossreviews I don't know, it's my only Charge 5. It's still in break-in territory, but it is too bright to my liking. I confirm what I heard from you, it's quite sibilant, at least for now. My EQ is Bass +1 and Treble -1. I think it sounds quite balanced, but I've not made any frequency analysis yet 👍 However I'm impressed by how clean the bass is, even cleaner than Xtreme 3.

[@alanrossreviews]

@@ThibautMahringer oh my bad, thought you was saying you had a second one. its decent enough but you have the boom so a lot to live up to 😁😁.

[@ThibautMahringer]

@@alanrossreviews I have way too much speakers 😂 But I have to say I like it a lot, except the fact it's mono, obviously 👍

[@alanrossreviews]

@@ThibautMahringer yeah i still have just one, i might get a second soon to see how it opens up.

[@betelgeuse227]

Does this trick of reducing mida to increase bass also Work on the xtreme 3?

[@alanrossreviews]

on any speaker if you decrease mids AND highs you get more relative bass

[@betelgeuse227]

@@alanrossreviews yeah but On the measurments the bass is up almost 1db, i was asking if you would get a similar gain on the xtreme 3 if you do the same, because i dont have anything good to test that :(

[@apostumatei4276]

Hello! I have a question. I've just bought a jbl charge 5 and i'm wondering If i can play it at maximum volume while i use the jbl portable app to set the bass and treble at the maximum (the 2nd level). I m worried not to break it cause. Also is it recommended to do so?

[@alanrossreviews]

The app is safe. If you set it all to max it will still top out at the same as default.

[@apostumatei4276]

It seemed to me that IT was about 5% more powerful and that s why i asked so as not to break sth

[@kinnjoseevangelista333]

Hello Alan! Can you please recommend EQ settings best for classic rock music? Thanks ahead!

[@alanrossreviews]

I wouldnt worry about it, there is very little leeway and it will effect the volume if you start eqing for bass

[@estonianbot5383]

With my Xtreme 3 I like when it's bass is default and mids +1 and treble +2. Sound more louder. And when it's plugged in then it's more fuller than with EQ off.

[@alanrossreviews]

if you like it then its all good, enjoy! 👍

[@estonianbot5383]

@@alanrossreviews thanks!😊 i hope the Xtreme 4 has full power on battery otherwise it's not an upgrade.

[@alanrossreviews]

i doubt that will happen.

[@fritzrose8984]

Can you please do a side-by-side comparison of JBL Charge 5 ND and TL versions? I'm interested to know if they have similar frequency responses. A lot of people say they sound different.

[@alanrossreviews]

There is no way to buy a specific version

[@Sunrazor]

Question: when in stereo mode with another Charge 5 connected, will the EQ setting affect both? Will it remember the setting without the app?

[@alanrossreviews]

Yes eq will work for whats on master

[@psj3940]

How about keeping the Speaker settings kind of FLAT, and using the Phone Music app Equalizer presets (there is about 20 different one on my iPhone 7+) to find the one pleasant sounding to your Ear (or to put a smile on your face like you say), at the moment, that is different depending on time of the day, your mood, type of music, loudness, etc. I find it complicated to play with so many EQ settings that get me confuse actually...

[@alanrossreviews]

sure, just find what works for you. for me i cant do that for every speaker and every combination, not enough time in the universe. 🙈

[@34DRCL2M4]

Hi alan, does this eq update have distortions when you put all mids and trebles and bass to the max?

[@alanrossreviews]

you must understand, there is no new headroom, just ways to alter the overall sound. i havent tried this but i would guess no since bass still limits at the same place.

[@justabasslover4404]

My jbl charge 5 is on the way. A question there is, if you changed the eq on the app, will it stay that way or when you turn it off and back on, will it reset? Or if you modified the eq on your phone and another device connects to it and you disconnected your device, will the eq be reset?

[@alanrossreviews]

Its embedded into the speaker

[@justabasslover4404]

@@alanrossreviews Omg, it really is embedded into the speaker! I can physically change the amplifier's eq to however I like it!. It's awesome!. I don't have to worry about turning the eq on everytime I play music just to adjust the bass and highs. Even after I turn it off and on again, the eq stays the same and it didn't reset. Thanks!.

[@BBQBeerKars]

Hi! Does the jbl app save the equalizer settings I chose setting or do I have to reopen the app every time to adjust settings of equalizer all over again?

[@alanrossreviews]

Saves it

[@johnmoreno5965]

I wish they would put the eq in flip 5 charge 3 update. Lol there's no free lunch. Thanks for the video btw. I always enjoy them

[@alanrossreviews]

thanks for watching 👌

[@timjones9128]

This speaker has a lot more bass than the using the factory setting or the EQ. I downloaded subwoofer bass app and it had my Charge 5 thumping. The change in the bass was clearly noticeable and I could never get that kind of bass using the EQ.

[@alanrossreviews]

and what about at higher volumes when the limiter kicks in?

[@juris.m]

@@alanrossreviews hi you don't know how jbl charge 5 can turn on bass mod

[@bbllaannkk]

​@@juris.m unlike Charge 4, Charge 5 does not have the Low Frequency Mode.

[@patrickjohnbustamante8743]

​@@juris.mbq

[@Jduudididiisks]

Thank you so much🫡. I have subwoofers and this eq just made it sound 10x better

[@_-Z-]

Well...at least there's a little play room with the eq and there is some flexibility within the app that wasn't present before the update. Credit where credit is due but it's difficult for me to be too excited considering what Soundcore has been doing for less $ for quite a while (but I'm preaching to the choir). It is a promising first step, though. Hopefully, it the not too distant future they will provide more bands in the eq for adjustment and just possibly more headroom to make even more of a difference. Last but not least, thank you for another impeccable Alan Ross Review! 😁👍👏

[@alanrossreviews]

something is better than nothing...but only just 😝😝

[@advxncxd]

Hey I’m wondering, what does TL version mean? I have a black speaker so what version is mine?

[@alanrossreviews]

i dont think it stands for anything that we know about but signals a certain version in terms of materials.

[@aktunav]

EQ is always nice to have but it's limited with the HW (design)...

[@alanrossreviews]

thats for sure but looks great in the marketing and is fine for the low volume brigade. still got snow?

[@aktunav]

@@alanrossreviews yes, lots of snow in here but i am happy to have some opportunities about snow photography 👍😉🧑‍🎄...

[@alanrossreviews]

as always, beautiful pictures 💯

[@aktunav]

@@alanrossreviews this is my main motivation you know 🙏🙏🙏😁

[@Rahu97]

Hello. Question. I bought a used speaker. Here is my view from the JBL portable application when I connected with it. Why I don't have a proofreader and there is an older version and writes that it is up-to-date? And as I see others have this equalizers and newer software. What is it about? for comparison, a photo of mine and someone from the net as it should be. What do ten soft have to do? # JBLXtreme3

[@mukharroy1775]

Super confused before between bose flex vs charge 5, I mostly listen to 40 to 60 vol-range. Please let me know your thoughts if possible. Anyway thanks mate

[@davidbezzant9820]

If you haven't already bought one The JBL charge 5 is the better speaker now, especially now it's been discounted so much, big speaker bigger sound

[@cosminpopescu6748]

Can I use an external equalizer for the Charge 5 or not? I use the eq from VLC media player (10 bands) on a jbl flip esentials and the speaker responds very well to any change (medium, high bass).

[@alanrossreviews]

of course you can always use third party eq

[@omarjhungoor2598]

My mean problem is when I use the party boost on jbl charge 5 the EQ went flat. Can please tell why .

[@alanrossreviews]

@@omarjhungoor2598 eq doesn't work in paired mode

[@omarjhungoor2598]

@alanrossreviews well I am very disappointed with jbl. In fact I am mad it doesn't work.

[@omarjhungoor2598]

@@alanrossreviews however thanks for your reply. Your is great.

[@qbuw]

motion+ updated to firmware 39.39. can you make a EQ for it or can i use your old ones?

[@alanrossreviews]

my speakers are not showing me the update.

[@qbuw]

@@alanrossreviews oh, okay lol hopefully you get an update asap

[@Pavelflash]

Hello there, I just bought the JBL Charge 5 and hear the bass is too strong. I use it with PC (Windows). Is it possible to change (lower the bass) it? 🤫 I do not plan to use it with phone. I see people using the equalizer on the phone, would it change the sound on PC if I changed it in the app? 🙂 (It is funny how you HAVE to have a phone even if you do not want to use it with it, I did not know it before buying) Thank you for the help. 😉

[@alanrossreviews]

First time i ever heard say the charge 5 bass is too much 🙄 you can use any device with eq to lower or maybe get a different speaker? Stockwell 2 has tone knobs.

[@Pavelflash]

The reason why it was too bassy was I left it in the corner, close to the wall. Thats why it was tooo much. @alanrossreviews Thank you. It works. I used the app only twice to test it. Now, I can live without it. 😅I am happy with the speaker and its sound. 😚

[@the-aponguagc8126]

Yo tengo una charge 5 ND y la verdad siento que no suena tan duro como otras había escuchado antes pero no e bulto a escuchar otras que no sean las mías

[@TheFrozenBlack]

@Alan Ross Reviews It's it normal to brand new Charge 5 battery last's only 2 hours on a 90% volume level? 🤔

[@alanrossreviews]

Its a bit short but if its all bass heavy trscks its possible

[@rikkygaming6240]

Do you have a jbl charge 5 alternatives?

[@alanrossreviews]

as in other speakers? the motion plus, lg pl7, sony xb33.......

[@rikkygaming6240]

Thank you for replying. I love your videos man. I very detailed

[@pro48sa]

To what firmware update should i update to get charge 5 loud and good bass ?

[@alanrossreviews]

they are all the seem the same for me, only the very first one improved it

[@pro48sa]

​@@alanrossreviews what mid and treble gives

[@Panslapper]

Do you think we would be pushing it asking for a 31 band eq?

[@alanrossreviews]

I'd say that was a bit much to expect 😁

[@edwingoes2013]

Does your jbl charge 5 audio crack sometimes after the new firmware update?

[@alanrossreviews]

not noticed that.

[@edwingoes2013]

@@alanrossreviews okay

[@virenbro2526]

What is TL version?

[@alanrossreviews]

Different hardware

[@ThibautMahringer]

Let's go !

[@alanrossreviews]

this is it........................ 🤗

[@ThibautMahringer]

@@alanrossreviews Oh great, it's the same thing as Xtreme 3 but with an even earlier limitation in the bass... If people want more bass I would probably reduce mids highs because losing bass at 60% is not desirable... Oh well 🤷‍♂️

[@alanrossreviews]

i just go plus one bass and then forget the app 😝

[@ThibautMahringer]

@@alanrossreviews It's the easiest thing to do. 😋 I personally use two EQs with my Xtreme 3, one for indoor where I never listen at high volumes and one for outdoors where I let bass to 0 and accept to lose volume by reducing mids and highs, to get back that 80% bass limitation. Let's hope that Boombox 3 will have an EQ like the Flip 6 🤔

[@alanrossreviews]

im sure it will since it will be designed alongside the eq. the three way design will be interesting.

[@jjaylo7469]

What kind of application is that?

[@alanrossreviews]

jbl app

[@Ciangi87]

I just bought the JBL charge 5 and there no bass I’ve downloaded the app and did a software update and played with eq still no bass

[@falcon81701]

Does the Extreme 3 also have same EQ capability??

[@alanrossreviews]

yup

[@theunknown1062]

Hi to all JBL Charge 5. I wanna know if i were the only one experiencing this.. I bought a brandnew jbl charge 5 and it says on the package that it has 20 hours playtime but then i tested it. It only has 8 hours playtime and then it blinks red which means the battery needs to be charged. Need to hear your thoughts about this. Thank you

[@alanrossreviews]

i guess you dont watch my videos? if you did you would know this is a nonsense figure used for marketing.

[@theunknown1062]

I just subscribed to your yt channel..

[@theunknown1062]

Oh, wow😮 so there's nothing wrong with my jbl?

[@alanrossreviews]

8 hrs is pretty good if you are playing at decent volumes

[@dannybrannhult3192]

Thanks for the artist Mara Necia ❤️

[@alanrossreviews]

Thanks for listening

[@gobigrey9352]

I don't see an eq in the jbl portable app. I just want to bring the bass down a bit. Bluetooth speakers are always too boomy

[@slmyatt]

As Stan on South Park says, "I learned something today."

[@alanrossreviews]

hopefully it was something useful 😁

[@slmyatt]

@@alanrossreviews headroom a new realization.

[@MikeDaveYapOfficial]

will go with the +2 bass -1 mids and 0 highs as this speaker is too honky even starting from 65%. My motion boom just sweeps the charge 5 in bass and sq

[@kameronjohnson9634]

I’m scared to have my bass up and volume up at the same time I’m scared I might bust it 😅😅

[@alanrossreviews]

you wont bust it, you wont push bass past its limit but will have a more bass heavy sound.

[@coolbecool13]

Hey Alan. I'm looking for a portable speaker with quality sound as a jbl charge 5 . But with 360 sound. Any ideas.

[@alanrossreviews]

stockwell 2, minirgs.....

[@Dmc805]

👌🏻

[@alanrossreviews]

😁👌

[@NjabuloHadebe]

I lost a about 2% bass from previous version after the Update ♥️🤡 I Know how my bass is suppose to sound like and this here, is not it.

[@alanrossreviews]

not good.....😲

[@gsaxy]

doesnt work on party mode (with 2 charge 5) :-(((((

[@alanrossreviews]

no eq in party mode?

[@gsaxy]

@@alanrossreviews thats what i said, it says on my ios jbl connect app "will be deactivated" no idea what they think!

[@alanrossreviews]

makes no sense! firmware limitation perhaps.

[@ypoora1]

I feel like despite this addition we are still left with a lower amount of maximum bass than the ond old 0.6.something firmware. A shame, but the rest of this is what i'd expect.

[@alanrossreviews]

i guess you need to use third party eq

[@paulbreheney]

To be honest, I haven't the foggiest idea what your talking about 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@alanrossreviews]

You are not alone 👍

[@barstia7847]

Hi! Good video! But the app doesn't work at all!

[@alanrossreviews]

Have you asked jbl support about it?

[@alanrossreviews]

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[@king9bike967]

What’s the helicopter flying that I win money or something?

[@alanrossreviews]

i cant even remember the helicopter to be honest 🤦‍♀️

[@king9bike967]

@@alanrossreviews I found the helicopter at 21:00

[@alanrossreviews]

@@king9bike967 i think i just had too much time on my hands during editing 😁

[@yuureichan]

tl version almost no bass

[@Danny.ha0]

Thanks Alan, don't like the JBL EQ. Better than nothing but far away from Soundcore.

[@alanrossreviews]

yup weird how soundcore can do it but jbl are sticking to the sony route.

[@grahamjackmacpherson6501]

Get back to yer mattress reviews. If companies have stopped giving you a free mattress to review I'll send you the ones I'm using within my trial period but you'll have to send it back to me afterwards 👌😆

[@alanrossreviews]

my heart is no longer in the mattresses.....follow your heart my mum says 😝😝😝 how you doing?

[@grahamjackmacpherson6501]

@@alanrossreviews I'm good. I still watch your mattress reviews as they are the best I've found. Very thorough. I'm currently on a Emma Premium, I think.last time we spoke I was on a otty pure hybrid which I sent back, too firm despite the top cover having memory foam built in. Sending the Emma Premium back too and my next will be a Simba or Nectar as I've never had either. I may even try the Simba Pro, and j watched your review of the dreamcloud and that looked and sounded lush so that's on my radar too. Been at this for years with no signs of closure yet 😆

[@alanrossreviews]

Beware they have almost all changed since my review, one of the issues that got me out of the mattress scene. Remember what i always said? Get something a little firmer than your actual preference and fine tune with toppers. I still believe this the best route. I sleep on an ergoflex with a high density topper on top of the mattress and a wool topper on top of that 😜

[@grahamjackmacpherson6501]

@@alanrossreviews yeah I haven't forgotten that. Just adds to the expense though, a new mattress, a new quality topper, we'll see. When I eventually find my holy grail I'll let u know 😄

[@bryanahgoom5847]

Dude, I believe you just love to talk. That's all you love to do, make some f****** sense. Just leave the equalizer alone... Period

[@alanrossreviews]

Thanks for watching and commenting, it all helps the algorithm 👍

[@WolfCliffSthlm]

Hör ingen skillnad. Men fel på mina öron ha ha ha

[@kelseychilds5483]

I just want to turn the bass down

[@alanrossreviews]

Ok

[@pinroshan020]

Just buy soundcore motion plus if bass isnt your priority. 😉

[@pro48sa]

2,0,0 best

[@Tony_ChidiEbere]

I personally prefer how it sounds this way

[@Peepo_Hi]

LUL

[@alanrossreviews]

yo! 👍👍

[@nrianvega9086]

more bass is bad for real music :v

[@alanrossreviews]

there is no such thing as real music, music is music. this nonsense always makes me laugh, i see you guys telling each other this shite on the forums. have you never heard a piano? you know it plays down to 27hz right? no bass no piano!