Alarming texts ex-Penn State frat member allegedly sent during hazing

[@anirose6807]

They were more concerned about getting in trouble and losing their precious scholarships than they were about saving this poor boy’s life. Sounds like negligence to me.

[@mouse7984]

No it's more about priveledged brats born and bred to care more about a legacy and it's secrets and what it can do for their future. They knew exactly what needed, should and could have been done if they were just willing to drop their pride and worry about the person rather than the frat. It's wasn't negligence it was out right abuse that led to murder.

[@yenice3652]

@Butch Dye and it's happened again at Penn State!!

[@hadleymccool2193]

I'm with @Mouse 79 in that frats & scholarships do *not* go together. Agree w/everything else you said, tho!

[@attackfastace]

welcome to the reality

[@rjs1jd]

That's exactly WHAT transpired !

[@Spicy.pinata]

My brother was accidentally set on fire during a hazing type thing, he ran around and eventually collapsed as his fraternity watched and had no idea what to do, nobody called an ambulance, they managed to put him out and thought it was a good idea to rinse him off and bandage him up(the bandages stuck to his skin...dumb idea), he said he could feel himself baking as heat radiated from his body all night, the next day they finally took him to the hospital. He’s alive but his back and upper arm will always look like Freddy Krueger. Fraternities are so mf stupid.

[@SeekSeekerMaster]

Another self centered bitch. Piazza is dead and you go on about your own story. With a name like Napalm you are looking for sympathy? Do you have any idea how many people were burnt by napalm in Vietnam who are still alive to show their injuries. How do you expect people to even believe the shit you write?

[@melissajohnson1489]

R H shut up and look up compassion.

[@jacoblandman7345]

It’s crazy what males or just people In general will do to make friends lol

[@jacoblandman7345]

R H ur a weirdo bro get out there and the internet lmao

[@Zzzsleepzzz]

what school? that's fucked up! sorry for your brother.

[@celestialasmr9624]

8 HOURS?! He struggled for 8 hours after his fall without medical help. Thats torture 😭😭

[@leanie5234]

@B Pope geez...blame the victim. Sure, he should not have had too much to drink, but EVERYONE has the right to expect to be treated in a humane way. When you see a pedestrian get struck by a car, do you walk off saying,"he shouldn't have tried to cross the street."? Man! Even if they thought they might get in trouble, what's the penalty for drinking? Certainly not death !!

[@maherbaloch9868]

@@leanie5234 he wasn't blaming the victim are you dumb??

[@muffintop420]

And others knew something was wrong yet still did nothing. Hey someone should call 911, someone should get help. Yeah, why didn't YOU get help. Instead you did nothing because the others were also doing nothing. How hard is it to just call 911??

[@Iurc]

@@muffintop420 they killed him on purpose, he didnt fall, he got pushed. i hope they all die horrible deaths, they all deserve the worst.

[@dudeimgeorge]

Hahaha that's hilarious

[@bobbyjoejr.7122]

Falling asleep after head injury? How did these people make it to college? Absolute disregard for a human life.

[@FecalMatador]

It’s Penn State. It’s no different than OU, Bama, or any other big for profit college. If you have the money, simply writing your name on the application is all it takes.

[@tinycat3457]

it's not unsafe to fall asleep with a concussion. these guys are still scum though.

[@workemail6283]

American psycho too socially rtrdd to be self aware that they are a sad 👅GLY stereotype. When u know everything u have in life is gained thru some kiddie games and has no merits of a real life man.

[@xxxxzzzzz5943]

It was a silent agreement to lead this guy to his death and not give him help. They purposely let him die.

[@YoursTrulyMew]

Parents money 💰

[@jessicahumphreys5326]

If they had called an ambulance after it happened, they would have been viewed as idiots but just college idiots. They waited half a day, after admittedly googling his symptoms (meaning they KNEW some thing was wrong), and by waiting and delaying any kind of medical treatment, they are 100% neglectful and guilty of man slaughter. I have never understood the appeal of fraternities and sorority houses. They seem rife with mental, physical and sexual abuse.

[@tjd5112]

agreed, the drinking was his own choice, i dont blame anyone for that; but not calling for help - thats the part i cant understand! Hell if they were so worried about getting in trouble just find one sober person to drive him to hospital and drop him outside

[@TheRSFelon]

Jessica Humphreys It’s about reputation, connection, superiority, ego, and bragging rights. Absurd.

[@chandlerrose4545]

Drakilicious It has nothing to do with being white. That’s racism.

[@pk6010]

@@chandlerrose4545 reverse racism doesn't exist bro

[@chandlerrose4545]

j k Are you one of those morons that think only white people can be racist? Do you not know the definition of racism? Or just a troll?

[@brandonlee8123]

You dont need to be a college student to know what “falling asleep after head injury” means...

[@jellybelly111]

right? how in the fucking world did these fools even make it into college?

[@sm3675]

@@jellybelly111 don't overestimate the intelligence of drunk frat bros

[@BigBodyBiggolo]

@@jellybelly111 lol college is not some kind of supreme intellectual breeding place, and even if its a good college smart kids will still do stupid things.

[@BigBodyBiggolo]

I actually havent heard about falling asleep after a head injury in a very long time until Bob saget died recently. Should be making adds for that instead of those dumb gambling games.

[@sarahM-we9ek]

@@jellybelly111 by memorizing things to pass tests lol. these people are no smarter than people that choose not to go to college. they just have a fancy title/degree that claims they’re educated but more often than not they are not as educated as they would seem.

[@MrSpy13011]

*Deletes information off of phone* FBI: "Thats cute"

[@adelle3068]

United Federation of KFC That’s interesting to me. I’m waiting for the pedophile case to go through (I’ts been a year since I reported years of abuse). He made me delete so many text messages; the most dirty ones in fact. And when I told the police that he made me delete texts, they said there was no possible way to get them back. They told me law enforcement doesn’t have that power. So I’m starting to question

[@kristingallo2158]

@@adelle3068 your phone company has them. You can request through your carrier

[@jacoblamberson2709]

They should have taken notes from Hillary.

[@kristingallo2158]

@@jacoblamberson2709 they have those emails. They probably weren't ever really deleted tbh .

[@jesseporter3397]

@@kristingallo2158 yeah Hilary Clinton just admitted she deleted them cuz fuck it

[@dribblinonedirection]

Rich mommies and daddies will bail their sick disgusting children out of trouble so they will never learn from their mistakes... this is never going to end.

[@shadowskill7122]

mr burg she’s not jealous just pointing out the truth the justice system is a joke only reason lady justice is blind folded is so she could ignore the corruption and injustice going on in front of her

[@Idciydhmb]

mr burg he is just saying that if you have money it doesn’t matter how much of a POS you are in the courts eyes, just gotta have some cash... AKA Michael Jackson and OJ

[@milflover6196]

But you can’t say that like every rich parents would do something honestly almost every parent would that’s ur fucking kid but just because they have money doesn’t mean every parent would so plz speak for your self

[@neurologylove2135]

@mr burg Well said. Nearly anyone would bail there own child out. Rich or not. As long as they had the money. Its natural to not be able to or want to believe your loved one is capable of evil.

[@playlistgenius5737]

BLAME YOU'RE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT FOR THEIR ILLOGICAL FOR PROFIT BAIL SYSTEM. SICK PEOPLE!

[@Casey_S]

"I Dont want to go to jail, hazing is a huge thing" then maybe don't haze...

[@Casey_S]

@B Pope the "legal drinking age" is a completely arbitrary rule. Some countries allow 16 year olds to drink. Thats not the problem. It's easy to manipulate someone to do more extreme requests when they're drunk. They preyed upon his inebriation and his desire to be accepted.

[@Casey_S]

@B Pope I'm talking about other countries genius...🤦🏽‍♂️ Like the Netherlands, or Italy. Where the drinking age is 16. And it's COMPLETELY arbitrary! lt wasn't even federal law until 1984. States were forced to adopt the policy, or loose 10% of their funding. And it's way easier to be peer pressured to do things you wouldn't normally do when you're drunk. Could he have made better decisions? Sure, but once he's no longer in control of his body, his peers have a responsibility to ensure his safety. Blaming an individual does nothing to alleviate the overall predatory nature of frat culture in universities.

[@Casey_S]

@B Pope First off, calf down with the OOOOOVER EXXXXXTENDING OOOOF WOOOOORDS. And you're exactly right, he was trying to be a part of of something. He wanted to be accepted. So of course he's going to be way more susceptible to pressure, and doing questionable things. Couple that with intoxication, you're not even in full control of your body at that point. Should he have made different choices? Absolutely. But that doesn't make everyone involved free of responsibility. And you know what? You're absolutely right! He was drinking illegally underage. Which means they were supplying an underage person with alcohol. Meaning they have cosiquences to face. My entire point though, that this death was unecessary and avoidable. If hazing wasn't part of the process.

[@DB-dm2xm]

@B Pope ITS COLLEGE its what some do. Like you're ANY BETTER....see i can use caps also

[@Casey_S]

@@DB-dm2xm dude deleted all his comments 😂

[@Scrumtrulescent1]

"falling asleep after head injury". Wicked critical thinking bros!

[@ghostly1245]

Caleb Sherwood "Hands and feet cold" These fucking guys

[@TDTDTDTD-xz2zq]

Alcohol.

[@SuperStick24]

@Oesman I think you mean white people 😂

[@whothis9949]

Dominic B whites succeed far better in american testing than blacks

[@nataliesullivan1228]

Caleb Sherwood and they were in college?!?!

[@tattootiff274]

Hazing is ridiculous. How is it much different than being "jumped in" to a gang? Just dumb.

[@ryanwebb3372]

tattoo tiff not the same at all

[@user-bl5em1sv3g]

its not much different.

[@MissJessyeNorman]

It IS being jumped into a gang. The BIGGEST, MOST POWERFUL, EVIL GANG IN THE WORLD is the MASONS/ZIONISTS/SATANISTS (some of them don't realize that they are Satanists, that that is the end goal, but it is). They control the money in the world, and the highest positions in the land. Boy and Girl Scouts are the first rung of training. The Greeks system, is the second, and first very serious training/initiation into this world. Joining the Masons is the third. Some masons will obviously never have any real power, and never know what the organization is really about. But, those who join from the Ivies and baby Ivies, will at least have a tiny taste...

[@MissJessyeNorman]

I'm sure my comment will sound absolutely nutty to some. But, if you do research, all of this information is out there, and from mainstream resources. They just never put them all in one place. If you want to know, you must go digging, and have enough sense to see where the links might be. Once you find them, they're completely obvious to any and everyone...

[@FourLetterGT]

MissJessyeNorman Answer me this. Why does knowing any of this help you live a successful and happy life?

[@Alexandra_Wolf]

This is disgusting that they were TEXTING about not wanting to go to jail while this kid is being tortured and dying. He probably wondered “where are my friends!?” While these disgusting kids stalled instead of making a call that could probably save his life. To know he looked like he got hit by a car, WHAT DID this guys do to him!?

[@clancykobane9102]

from penn state to state pen

[@isaywhatiwanttosay2025-4eva]

Sheesh. How ironic. 😩

[@wwc51450]

Poor Penn State! They just can't help themselves! One scandal after another. Long on arrogance, short on morality.

[@collegeman1988]

State Pen also has fraternities and hazing rituals much worse than any in college.

[@handoverthejewgoldkyle3321]

HEYYOOOOOOOO!

[@marquanmr]

What's the difference?

[@mattdavis8573]

Imagine if that was your child. They all deserve prison time.

[@nicomarkins7386]

Matt Davis thats the thing that people lack. Sympathy.

[@nicomarkins7386]

Siobhan Fogarty smd

[@thevampire6065]

Technically they did nothing wrong

[@youngchristianhopeandencou6579]

David Parry rude

[@youngchristianhopeandencou6579]

David Parry the Fathers house is not a den of thieves. but of prayer

[@robertrhein8703]

The irony is if he had survived he likely would have joined this cycle of abuse. We all need to treat other better. May he RIP.

[@danielbras5123]

Not a concerning cycle, people willing join frats they’re a reason they’re frat are usually filled with dumbasses it’s because they’re are the people that are drawn towards that idea

[@hillarybillary21]

Ok but they’re psychopaths and you’re not. Neither was he.

[@ambersomething1693]

I went to college in NY and I was pressured into drinking too much, no one took me to the hospital but the guy who pressured me to drink felt so bad that he carried me to my roommates bathroom and sat with me to make sure I was okay, he laid down a towel on the floor so I could rest my head on something and he made sure I stayed on my side, I remember him making me drink water and I remember him putting a cold washcloth on my face. The way your kids behave is definitely how you raise them, I don’t blame him for getting me to drink so much because I agreed to do it. I’m actually still very good friends with him, he’s probably the only thing that kept me alive that night because he took responsibility for his own actions before it was too late, and decided instead of partying he was going to make sure the person he got drunk was going to be okay. Moral of the story: don’t pressure people to drink, but also don’t let people pressure you. It’s okay to say no, it’s okay to be sober

[@jamsmith2524]

Omg that bought a tear to my eye. So glad he realised you needed help and helped you and thank God you're OK xx

[@lawtraf8008]

Cap

[@rachelreneer56]

So glad you survived and was taken care of and safe.

[@Pilgrimage85]

Eh man that's true on your comment. It's how they were raised. I find spoiled rich fucks are completely ignorant to anything but themselves. Narcissistic. People who struggle, and appreciate their kids, that's the type of guy who helped you out I'd bet.

[@sukatidi]

at least thats how you can tell he didn't do it out of bad intention

[@Nothim1775]

Blaming the security because rich kids cant take responsibility for their actions

[@thevampire6065]

Most kids Rich and pore don't take responsibilities for their actions

[@youtubestopmakingmechangem8035]

@@thevampire6065 yet I know poor kids doing 20 years for making dumb mistakes that didnt result in another person's life being lost

[@jordanbanko5347]

Drakilicious what was the text message?

[@jakeg3126]

How do you know he’s rich?

[@mynameisalsojohn]

@@jakeg3126 he’s apart of a frat.

[@Luvvserena111]

It’s absolutely crazy to believe that no one called for help immediately like a group of psychopaths. This feels unreal like a tv show I can’t believe ppl are this crazy

[@18carolynmoore]

People did try to call 911 but were stopped and physically threatened and attacked by the frat members that made Tim drink alcohol.

[@ramsnation196]

there’s actually a a movie called burning sands that’s just like thus

[@Skankhunt-tf1tt]

Poor kid. I bet he was so scared. And they wouldnt even help him.

[@janeporter818]

True

[@granttrent5564]

That makes no sense. Why the hell would he be scared from having a few beers quickly and accidentally falling down stairs drunk off his ass? I'm sure he wasn't scared by the "hazing" - which was just binge drinking - which is the reason he pledged the frat to begin with.

[@matt8239]

@@granttrent5564 Scared that he fell down the stairs, couldn't get up and was clearly dying you nut...

[@granttrent5564]

@@matt8239 - obviously your an idiot. He was DRUNK when he fell down the stairs. Once your old enough to have a beer in 8 more years you'll understand that you don't really feel pain when your drunk. It's why in college you might wake up with bruises and a sprained ankle after a night of binge drinking and have no idea how it happened. Also, HE would have no idea he was dying. You don't KNOW your dying when its happening. Either he just feel woozy or sleepy or didn't even know anything at all. Just like the non-doctor 19yr old frat brothers didn't know he was dying either. I doubt it was the first time someone got super drunk and clumsy in the frat house. This is classic grieving parents who want SOMEONE to blame for their idiot son's death. Learn to handle your booze like a man and don't blame other kids for this idiots decision to join a frat or binge drink. No one held a gun to his head.

[@amyketchum5829]

@Siobhan Fogarty 0.4 is nothing for alcohol level. He could of damaged certain nerves in his brain that caused him not to be able to stand and possibly could of lost memory or blacked outbut not likely

[@ryanp6870]

“Someone should call 911” How about you call 911?

[@lucasbooth3614]

"Somebody get a sponge!" "Why don't you get a sponge?" - larry david

[@jamiellast]

Exactly... He is lying to cover himself and even worse playing as a victim too. 🤢🤮

[@Secret-Serenity]

You're right he should have called right away not waited, a lot of people don't act when they should sadly.

[@mizzury54]

Peer pressure is a pretty powerful thing

[@gab4308]

@@mizzury54might be true. But so is common sense.

[@jacksoncalhoun4158]

Something like this happens to me this year, only I fell and hit a curb not done the stairs. Same bac. My pledge master drove me to the emergency room himself. The fact these guys couldn’t even make a phone call is a disgrace

[@c.swinford8283]

I'm glad he took care of you but stay safe Jackson. A few years in this group is not worth your life my dude. Do what is best for you.

[@bear420bear]

Hope you didn't join. Hope you learned to stop being a follower.

[@thegrudge]

How the hell did you get to the same bac level though?

[@NeuroDeviant421]

"...hazing is a huge thing" that's pretty incriminating. they knew they were engaged in illegal behavior.

[@rodcooper7532]

These organizations stick to tradition, I'm frat myself but dont agree with hazing period

[@teemoslo4229]

These boys are adults and they know that he was injured. They tried to hide it.

[@drquack4213]

And he knew what he was doing was a threat to his safety

[@bigdogsantos2990]

They all knew the risk's, even the one that died. But they should be held accountable for not reacting immediately. They're not adults, they're still young and dumb. Then again many adult's are dumb. Though under 25 these guy's knew better, but we're probably just as intoxicated. No one to trust, they're worried about covering their behinds than getting him help.

[@rikmcdik6662]

“His eyes were half open. He wasn’t there.” You can here the pain in his voice. How are you supposed to forget an image like that?

[@coronaflo]

How much you wanna bet they get community service as a punishment

[@uhhjonah9364]

coronaflo a lot, like all the money I have tbh

[@blatnere6793]

coronaflo actually today the family has agreed to some things. I don’t know much about these groups but no alcohol or drugs are allowed on their grounds ever again is only one agreement

[@tiktaco4391]

Evan Blatner Wow what a punishment... this is fucking ridiculous. Put those retards in jail.

[@lisaelliott5006]

My life savings of $5.25

[@Skankhunt-tf1tt]

They should all get 1 year at least. Ring leaders like 3 years. They fucked up but I’m sure they feel totally guilty.

[@tanner9851]

I still can't wrap my head around how somebody can defend the frat members without even feeling a hint of guilt.

[@jackson.denzler.]

Tanner what’s your profile pic an album cover?

[@Mimi-cq4bg]

Alumni

[@jaden-senpai5047]

Well it is their job.

[@patricksedjro1764]

Well they may have a friend or someone involved in the frat.

[@ItsMe-ic7on]

Are you referring to the defense attorney? That's literally their job

[@aMAXproduction]

"I don't wanna go to jail. Hazing is a huge thing" *Still participates in it anyway.*

[@cvblaylock]

I never understood the appeal of frats. I'd prefer to keep myself busy with real shit rather than paying for friends and lowering my GPA.

[@detectivehawk4976]

Clanton Blaylock "Key word:acceptance" The allure of getting lots of women and popularity.

[@burtonl7239]

Networking. You can graduate with a 4.0 and land a cushy starter job somewhere or you can graduate with a 3.0 and get invited onto the fast track because you frat brother's dad is on the board of directors.

[@bossytweed6664]

Clanton Blaylock Networking is the most positive thing that comes from Greek life upon getting into the workforce.

I get plenty of pussy, and friends without my fraternity. However, I think that my specific fraternity aligns with my goals in life, and sets me on a path to complete that goal. Being with different people, mobilized by tenants is good for me.

[@orlandorodriguez7235]

I graduated with a 3.9. Went to law school. The alumnis in my frat opened many doors into my professional career. So go figure why people rush frats. Much more than just "buying friends."

[@Zombeastsqurl]

Intent, maybe not. But gross negligence? Most definitely. These guys were covering their butts, not looking out for him. For that they're guilty. Lock em up and throw away the key.

[@jacoblandman7345]

Zombeastsqurl their rich white boys that would never happen

[@sandraramos5915]

Prison time

[@cheshirepat30]

Intent is important though, because there needs to be intent for it to be murder instead of manslaughter.

[@JoJoMaMa_]

Can’t imagine what his family went through. You expect your kids to be safe when they’re at school. Breaks my heart.

[@blubberblubblum]

Don't pay to have friends

[@STRDX]

ash tom I wish youtube had DMs cause I'd slide in yours

[@uchrisdaley]

ash tom exactlty

[@marcocruz1892]

GDI

[@fetchyryu]

Or just don't haze. Plenty of other kinds of organizations that you don't pay for also haze. It's disgusting.

[@3spanishfreaks970]

Sounds like someone didn't get a bid... GEED

[@annettealex1]

is this the same school that covered up for a child predator for years, just wondering, Sandusky I think its name is

[@gabbyceruti9998]

yes

[@sahirygnobehi6448]

annettealex1 My cousin got accepted there. But my uncle told her she better attend Maryland University.

[@rachelgarber1423]

annettealex1 Yes it is

[@coconutsciencegirl9232]

Pretty much every weird rape and suspicious murder happens at ole Penn state.

[@ayoayoola547]

annettealex1 My sister goes to this school

[@Gberluz]

I couldn’t help but laugh at the comment “there should be NO underage drinking”. Because that’s so realistic. The real issue here is the frat dunces that waited 8-12 hours to get the poor kid help. All colleges would benefit from teaching these students that regardless of how much trouble you think you’ll get in, you should always call 911 in an emergency.

[@gi295]

Yup. This was not the fault of drinking AT ALL. This is completely frat stupidity. I mean seriously. Just LEFT HIM THERE FOR 8 hours

[@EchoJ]

@@gi295 a BAC *four times the legal limit* carries zero fault? Look, I totally agree the young man's death is all on the frat fckrs, but let's not pretend as though he wasn't somewhere in the neighborhood of alcohol poisoning and in real danger even without the head injury and lack of sane humans around him to get help immediately.

[@sparingpickle4918]

Or just ban frats because people in large numbers always do dumb things. Now taking our dumb youth, adding alcohol, and putting them in a group is going to be a disaster every time.

[@dougbfresh]

@@gi295 I mean drinking obvious a big issue. You have a room full of drunk kids no ones taking responsibilities. If someone was sober, they may be thinking straight. Alcohol continues to be a major contributor to death in america and trying to give it a pass here is dangerous.

[@sarahM-we9ek]

@@dougbfresh drinking definitely was a major red flag in this situation but even when I’m drunk I can always clearly see what’s dangerous and what isn’t. even after two full bottles of wine or 9 shots in. that is never an excuse to leave someone injured on the brink of death. they could’ve easily called 911 and if they did there wouldn’t be as many questions about who is responsible.

[@beginningandlast7147]

The reputation of this school only gets better.

[@satinwhip]

This happens everywhere. It's not just Penn State. Fraternities are breeding grounds for this type of behavior. Why the entire system has not been shut down is beyond comprehension.

[@tg4655]

Ya but the molesting.

[@kingforte9246]

@@satinwhip true but Jerry Sandusky

[@BiG-JuPO1O1]

@@satinwhip Because money

[@patricksedjro1764]

@@BiG-JuPO1O1 👍🏿

[@simonatchitakova9418]

Rest In peace angel, you didn’t deserve the tragic end your supposed “brothers” caused you. No humanity. I shed a tear for you and your family.

[@keithgarcia8519]

Sphinx Money what a stupid fucking argument you make. They’re BOTH at fault. Know your fucking limits and of course don’t place your trust in pledging idiots like that. They should’ve done something for the poor kid but he got himself into that situation by agreeing and partaking, I’m sure he wanted to do whatever it took but look at the cost? All for a Greek name and notoriety. That damage was already done, being surrounded by family, friends or staff doesn’t mean shit you fucktard. So when you drink alone what you don’t expect to wake up then? What a braindead comment. Maybe you should shut your stupid fucking mouth

[@politech2722]

Keith Garcia Right, as if given enough time gone by, he wouldn’t have ended up doing the same thing to some other kid

[@AllOfTheHallows]

Piece? It’s Peace.

[@simonatchitakova9418]

@@AllOfTheHallows thanks I didn’t even catch that

[@MakaykayLAMB]

I think it’s the culture of fraternities that make this kind of behavior normalized. Because you’ve pledged, you feel like you have to keep going. All those kids are at fault. 8-12 hours of no medical intervention, they genuinely didn’t care.

[@CodeLeeCarter]

Not very intelligent kids are they, I mean, who doesn't know that everything you do on a device is recorded,... send them to jail for total disregard for life.

[@AbelR91]

Raytooreal L It's not hard at all to get into a state college , especially if you do sports

[@zammmerjammer]

They didn't know that he was clearly in very bad shape, that cold hands and feet is a VERY BAD SIGN (it's your body going into shock). So, no -- not very intelligent kids.

[@artw1159]

The collective IQ of “Greek” life participants is laughable. Not calling 12 hours after serious injury, some brothers huh

[@j-mt.175]

His smile alone was so contagious, hazing has got to stop 🛑!! God Bless his family daily!

[@karib5955]

You send your child to college for a bright future and then this BS happens . Seriously are you kidding me . Did they all fall off the stupid tree and hit every branch down ! God

[@ceciliamartinez6292]

Kari B the need to belong is bigger than making smart decisions, I guess

[@karib5955]

Cecilia Martinez I would have to say your right on this one

[@ASmith-jn7kf]

People send their children away knowing about these things and expecting their children to take part in it. They are just as much to blame as anyone else. If he wouldn't have died this simply would have been laughed off.

[@ASmith-jn7kf]

Kari B people don't care about reckless behavior until someone gets raped or killed.

[@TriniLush7]

Kari B mmmmmm pretty much!

[@dadyarusski4594]

This is senseless. Doing nothing can be just as dangerous as intent.😢

[@ssethi3904]

Deidre Muhammad well we have another case of kids watching a person drowning and recording it yet doing nothing....only there is no law against it so they won't go to jail...

[@lisakaz35]

The intent to do nothing IS intent -- it's called NEGLIGENCE.

[@TriniLush7]

Deidre Muhammad that is intent fr

[@mentallyunstableitaliangre374]

Deidre Muhammad i

[@rachelwhite3286]

@@lisakaz35 only if you have a legal duty of care to that person

[@seviregis7441]

Hazing should be illegal

[@bgilley8199]

The moment a group you want to join asks you to degrade yourself, walk the other way. Why any of these kids submit to hazing is beyond me.

[@itskarl7575]

That's precisely the allure of fraternities, or clubs of any sort: there's a sacrifice to be made. That way, membership becomes something special. If there are no requirements, then membership is no big deal. Hazing is a rite of passage, and as humans we are suckers for such things. Whether it's the first crossing of the Equator, Mensur fencing, circumcision etc. - all of which are very unpleasant, but more to the point they are unpleasant by design. And such traditions are kept alive because... reasons.

[@rickhammond2473]

Because they are stupid with no common sense.

[@ArchangelExile]

Conformity.

[@ozzierabbit587]

Forced drinking is simply going over the line.

[@rickhammond2473]

@@ozzierabbit587 I did not know that his college mates tied him down and forced the alcohol down his throat,this is what you are insinuating .He took it upon himself to guzzle down the crap.I take it you were not aware that Piazza was warned about the parties before going to college.

[@rockerchickrox]

This is tragic. If someone had called for help immediately he may have survived

[@stacitaylor1064]

Cleo for sure...

[@dh6320]

No doubt...getting him help was a matter of life and death.

[@nofumble4645]

The anger in his brothers eyes I can only imagine

[@plno2443]

I’m guessing his brother was in a frat too and hazed pledges.

[@marcellasheridan9263]

I tried to get him help but I didn't, you didn't try to get him anything you are as guilty as the rest of the SEWER RATS that killed him, you are all murderers.

[@stifledeluard]

Marcella Sheridan I got fuckin mad when he said that like nigga you can't sit there and say you helped when there is a dead man in your fucking house

[@Lapusso650]

Marcella Sheridan Hey that's offensive to sewer rats

[@juratory8876]

That's true. Sewer rats have more integrity than those frat boys that let Piazza die.

[@drewblack660]

It would sound 10x better if he said, "I wanted to get him help! but everyone was telling me to wait.. to wait and wait. I was drunk *cries* I'm so sorry to their family. Please forgive me." But no! He's just a rat squealing for his freedom. Not caring about the boy that's dead or his family. Where's the humanity..

[@mporras24]

Marcella Sheridan Exactly! This is 2017 and you're a college student. Do you not have a cell phone of your own to call 911?! Just saying someone should call doesn't make you a hero!

[@ZekeThePlumber86]

I hope this will [expletive] up all of their lives for good..

[@delovely1577]

Omg . Hearing his mother speak just broke my heart. Can you imagine sending your baby to het a higher education so they can build a secure life and then they never come home again 😞😢

[@summertimebeau]

"There's no intent involved." This even pisses me off even more because hazing in the first place should never be tolerated AT ALL. I don't care if it's tradition for some society or something but no one should EVER go through an inhumane process just to fit in into a group of whatever. Humanity is deteriorating and it's deteriorating fast. Rest well, beautiful soul.

[@burnssy112]

Hazing has been apart of humanity forever people are now just starting to push back

[@ItsMe-ic7on]

@@burnssy112 well again I thought hazing was outlawed or illegal five or six years ago. So why are they still doing it?

[@consciousobserver629]

@@burnssy112 Yes, true. Sticking hands in enclosures filled with painful, biting ants.. many other methods used as well.

[@grunch967]

"how is a college freshman supposed to see a problem when trained professionals don't see a problem" Oh, I don't know, maybe when he watches the guy fall down a flight of stairs? Seriously...

[@savannahjones-verity3308]

Exactly. And also googled the symptoms that he was experiencing after the fall.

[@makaylawaters2568]

How are trained professionals supposed to see something that didn’t even happen yet? All they saw were drunk kids not a dude falling down a flight of stairs nine minutes after they left. 🙄 what type of defense was that😞

[@susankaempfer8427]

Seriously. This is university. If they’re that stupid, they don’t belong in university.

[@sparingpickle4918]

@@makaylawaters2568 When you have no defense that’s what you do. Blame other people. Notice how all left wing media attacks Trump? It’s what the weak do and the weak are attracted to.

[@Wakish0069]

@@sparingpickle4918 He lost and you guys are still smacking your keyboards and pouting. He lost 61/62 court cases pertaining to the election, is over 420 million dollars in debt (that means he's poorer than you), had his fraudulent university shut down, and went on national TV wearing his pants backwards. Trump literally wore his pants backwards on TV lol, he deserves to be made fun of

[@DripGxd_Cam]

Imagine being told your whole childhood that you have to go to college, and being told how good and important it is to go to college. You spend your high school years getting ready for it, you spend hours and days working on scholarships and admissions applications and taking tests, just to be told to join a fraternity when you get there, so you try and join, and then you just die from stupid frat hazing and then it all just means nothing.

[@themachine9366]

Buddy, if you join college after working hard, you are joining no Frat.

[@cortanipark5333]

Crazy how all of a sudden 19yo college freshmen isnt old enough to realize something bad has happened for 12hrs but smart enough to use the internet and look up symptoms

[@scatt9944]

And that’s why I’m going to community college

[@eggshells652]

Scatt community colleges are great! have a great experience

[@john-jamesblanchette6607]

Totally... Lmao

[@geekychick131]

Just don't join a frat lol

[@J3R3MI6]

Are you sure this is why?

[@gammie4586]

Wow! Unbelievable! One student texted that hazing is bad.. he was aware of thr danger and the consequences... the poor family of the young pledge.. who suffered a senseless death. God bless them.

[@bubsbubsoohlalaa]

are they even university students!?!? like a 3/4 year old can call for help but they cant!?!? no excuses

[@Gymnopediea]

exactly.

[@kellystar6733]

My cousin went through hazing....he dived off the roof of a house into a pool....broke his neck and is now paralyzed..... hazing is not ok. Kids are impressionable...18 may be a legal adult, but they are just getting into the world....

[@kellystar6733]

yfz450r for real, he switched colleges and now goes to the university of Arizona.....wheelchair accessible

[@rebekahlikesmusic2723]

Kelly R I am so sorry he went through that. God bless him. I'm glad he's alive and continued his education

[@greenytaddict]

Jesus damn that's crazy

[@ASmith-jn7kf]

That's not being impressionable, that's being desperate. You are so desperate to be cool or fit in that you'll do anything. No excuse.

[@mollielabarre8554]

A. Smith you need to learn that there is such thing as peer pressure especially for young adults and teens in college. I personally never went through peer pressure because I make my own decisions and I know when something isn’t a good idea. However kids do go through peer pressure stop talking about there’s no excuse. Not everybody is like you not everyone has high self esteem. Hazing is big in colleges and half the time they DO force you to do certain things. Before you judge people you should educate yourself. It’s everyone’s fault in this case. Period.

[@AmethystSnow]

I’ll never forget that a frat member at my old college told us about how his hazing included getting hit so hard with a paddle by each person in the frat that the person who managed to break it on the pledge won.

[@ZeldasMask]

America is fucking weird I’ll say that

[@RainbowKittyy]

What did he win

[@rhythmicelegance4670]

That actually happens in some people’s homes as corporal punishment

[@Wakish0069]

@@ZeldasMask As an American, I'll just say to try to keep in mind how many of us are in frats lol. What you're viewing here isn't anywhere close to the average American experience, a quick search says there are roughly 750k frat members in the US while our population is over 350mil

[@mychannel5628]

His family is beautiful.

[@bryanna_renaee]

Aanika Beth Anderson his cousin was my best friend in high school. I go to Penn State but I never actually met him. Hope he rests in peace :(

[@lisaelliott5006]

Bryanna no

[@sandysandy3044]

It doesn't seem like a good idea to join a frat. Do these people even talk after college?

[@o_valencia3038]

Sandy Sandy not all fraternities are bad. .. plenty don't haze and actually provide a home for people ...

[@LOVEbelOwable]

Sandy Sandy exactly like none of the guys you go to school with are going to care about you or your well being in the long run so why even go through the hazing to impress a bunch of idiots. They were irresponsible and a life was taken away for no reason

[@i.j.f.2200]

Sandy Sandy yes. The richest and most successful men in the United States are 80% former fraternity members.

[@PixelDoodles]

Sandy Sandy some do

[@comradestalin2199]

+Isacc Fisher Source? Wouldn't surprise me, America is a huge oligarchy.

[@mossandthesea]

Hazing should be illegal.

[@cristiancalvillo1140]

Absolutely disgusting and a clear example why hazing is absolutely illegal

[@opsatr]

Wow. Those Google searches... The whole time they were typing and searching those, they could have easily dialled 911.

[@harrisonl226]

“Frat members show up with their attorneys” Correction “Frat members show up with their fathers”

[@missycitty9478]

So heartbreaking. Especially when it could have been avoided 100%.

[@missycitty9478]

@B Pope whats with the sarcasm?

[@missycitty9478]

@B Pope nah. I'm good 👍

[@benobro5831]

And yet alcohol is legal and weed is deemed more dangerous than cocaine and heroine (let alone alc)...... PATHETIC

[@onlylikenerd]

BENOBRO true if I was super stoned I'd probably be too scared to walk down the stairs

[@bresophil]

Nobody thinks weed is more dangerous than Heroin or coke lol

[@Mark-sd5jk]

bresophil the federal government

[@myme8208]

Both should be banned. How many homes wrecked because of alcoholics or drug addicts. Abused children and broken homes. Both arent great like you make them out to be.

[@womaninthewave]

who tf thinks that weed is worse than heroin? oh yea nobody does

[@benjamindover7041]

When I was in my early 20's, my best mate and I went to a party. I got talking to a girl, he started playing drinking games in another room. He got very drunk, very quickly. I hadn't seen him in maybe an hour, so I went looking for him. He was face down next to the table where everyone was still playing drinking games - completely ignoring him. I turned him over to find him with a bleeding head and foaming at the mouth. No one seemed to give af. I snapped into sobriety in a matter of seconds and called an ambulance. I carried him downstairs with the help of one other friend and went to the hospital in the ambulance with him then sat in the waiting room for 8 hours, calling his mother to tell her what had happened. Thankfully he made a full recovery and was discharged a day later. I did all that because I knew he'd do the same for me. But I would have done it for anyone. Surround yourself with people who will call an ambulance for you. Fk everyone else.

[@francesannie1149]

Seeing the family’s pain made me cry, so sad. Too sad.

[@Thanatos4655]

Play stupid games win stupid prizes!

[@joedelilo5608]

bob blow shut up you salty fuck

[@tfaddict8254]

Maybe BUT IT'S THE TRUTH THOUGH!

[@bohemiangrove1994]

ThanatosXR I won a you 1 time

[@BrianStyleDeath]

ThanatosXR is that what the doctor said to your mom after you were delivered?

[@angeofdeth6552]

BrianStyleDeath got em 😂

[@blacksabeth123able1]

I’ve lived up in College Township for about 6 years now. I remembered when this happened and it was just like another “here we go again situation”. There are so many other stories like this or ones involving excessive intoxication where and individual(s) gets hurt. I work where the main fraternities and student apartments meet. Wether it’s a football weekend or just a busy Saturday night there is always that feeling like something like this is gonna happen. It’s tiring to have your town in the news for something negative. Especially when there hasn’t very little to anything done to prevent fraternities from partying. It’s sad to see it. There needs to be more attention to not only this, but how events like these can be prevented. Banning a fraternity from throwing parties isn’t going to stop anything.

[@lilray2754]

the grief and sadness in this boys family's eye is unspeakable. this will never get their family member back. while these frat brats are roaming around. I really hope that this family and victim achieve justice in this matter. horrible just horrible. you raise your child, just to have a bunch of suckers take your child's life away. life in prison wouldn't be punishment enough for them. eye for an eye would be appropriate.

[@hannahalexis9233]

Alia Khan couldn't agree more with you!

[@AccomplishedClan]

Alia Khan so kill all 16 members of the fraternity who didn't do anything to save him? Nah fam, sending them to prison for the appropriate time for all those who are involved is the right thing to do.

[@lilray2754]

AccomplishedClan that's what I meant..

[@ER1CxF]

Absolutely.

[@tylerkochman1007]

To lose your beautiful child in such an ugly manner. To have him treated with such indignity. Terrible.

[@littlelamb3656]

He was so handsome... .R.I.P

[@p1nkfangs]

Yeah...you should see breathe Nolan breathe it’s on KZbin he was so cute and his death was worse than this

[@itsskayylaa]

I always worry about people when they throw up and pass out in random spots. People think “oh they’re fine. You’re overreacting.” But, they don’t realize that’s alcohol poisoning and they can die from too much consumption or from choking on their own vomit. People need to be taught more on safety and be more cautious of their actions.

[@LeinadzzVids]

This has happened to me also. I fell very hard on the back of my head with a person in my arms, went knock out for some time and I was brought to my tent and went to sleep. One hour later I woke up shivering and puking, got some help and went back to sleep. The next day I was brought to the hospital because I was fainting. Right now, four months later I'm still not recovered. But I guess I got lucky I'm still alive. Head injuries are very serious so better look for medical help soon as possible if you ever get in a situation like this.

[@johnnyblaze8439]

They all got away with it. American justice at its finest

[@CarloBenevissi]

When is this country finally going to outlaw fraternities and sororities? So many innocent and promising young individuals have died due to hazing. It’s detestable

[@rn6710]

The dad is unrealistic. There will always be drinking on college campuses, even dry campuses.

[@rebekahlikesmusic2723]

R Navs my best friend was an alcoholic so he moved to a "dry county" (I live in the south) to get away from alcohol. He died from driving drunk in that county shortly after moving there. Prohibition does not work. Making campuses or counties "dry" does not work.

[@kieranschafer5180]

instead of fighting alcohol, we need to learn to accept it and teach it right to these kids. The rest of the world can handle it, so can we. Need to show them that having drinks is great for social events and acceptable, but that too much is dangerous.

[@MariposaMegan]

Hazing accomplishes nothing. They are already worthy of being a student no one needs to prove anything.

[@angelnumber2002]

I guess we need to start a public campaign to remind boys they should call 911 during an emergency? If u don’t know what to do in a medical situation CALL 911!

[@johnsondavis1565]

What's this bullshit about banning drinking on college campuses? The prohibition of alcohol from younger people has caused a culture of binge drinking. Of course we shouldn't let minors down glasses of whiskey. But pushing to ban alcohol is not gonna solve anything. Take some personal responsibility for things. It's tragic that these people's child died, but don't blame the bottle, for every kid who decides to go overboard, there are thousands enjoying beers with others. Stop legislating, and start educating, not abstinence ( news flash! Kids will always want to get fucked up) but what do when something like this happens. stop making kids afraid to call the police if something like this happens.

[@once861]

fulbuter aaa I agree. We are the most strict country on drinking. Other country's age laws are 16 or 18 but the US has problems with alcohol and those countries dont. Here its so taboo and kids will binge drink. Its kinda like telling someone not do something makes them wanna do it. Making drinking so strict makes it a big deal. If we lowered the age to 18 it wouldnt be such a big deal.

[@Lo2smoove]

fulbuter aaa there has been a such thing as a dry campus all across colleges in the US. It's not unheard of I attended one. All we did was smuggle it into backpacks and go in the dorm.

[@estebanb7166]

Thank you. It is pretty clear cut, but nooo...We must complicate everything.

[@MrCmon113]

​@@_jay51That's stupid. No one gets hurt drinking in a lecture hall. We used to drink beer during maths lectures, which is probably the safest form of alcohol consumption.

[@laurazander3012]

I don't care what anyone said i would have called 911 as soon as he got injured

[@janeporter818]

Me too

[@chrayze2157]

THIS IS [expletive] INSANE

[@chilliecheesecake]

Fucking

[@chrayze2157]

chilliecheesecake thank you for the input

[@ablefable1455]

They threw water on him , Penn is that the best you got

[@0-Elias-0]

Penn State is having one helluva decade, no? 1.) Sandusky 2.) Piazza What next?

[@julia-ex7im]

17 year old just died there.

[@julia-ex7im]

@@dootdoot94xo44 search "17 year old died at pennstate"

[@ontheroad9121]

Osagie Osaze

[@Overyvonne]

All they had to do was call the emergency services wow. So selfish and cowardice. I don’t feel sorry for them

[@Altamirana713]

NO ONE needs to be in ANY FRATERNITY. I know so many friends and acquaintances that never got anywhere near those filthy gangs, and they are STILL ALIVE.

[@texas10519]

Energizer Erica not every fraternity is bad but a lot of them are slap dicks

[@samfreda8156]

Trill Vin what does slack dick mean

[@Cousin_n1cky]

Time to educate yourself before you make a dumb ass statement like this. Hazing is a huge problem that needs to be combated, but there are many fraternizes that don't have any form of hazing. I agree we need to get rid of the bad ones, but a good fraternity is one of the greatest ways to make life long friends on campus. Something that can be challenging for many incoming freshmen

[@na6389]

How could you literally watch someone dying without even trying to help or atleast CALL for help

[@humanothumqn659]

The fact that they weren't responsible enough to call 911 within the first hour is a demonstration of their character and their unreadiness for college. They should be expelled and charged with manslaughter at the very least

[@adamada101]

12....hours!?

[@daveyonathan230]

Please anyone tell me the reason why is fraternity still exist in our country?! I just really don't understand

[@votecurtistheguineapigforp9603]

walter reaves Its a whole luciferian thing

[@3spanishfreaks970]

They're social organizations that have been around longer than a majority of universities. They provide more than you could ever know to a college student, yet the only stories that make headlines are the negatives. Seems like the media is full of a bunch of GEEDS

[@ZeroAnkoku]

They provide shelter for a group of insecure men that need the reassurance of a group. Similar to a gang.

[@TriniLush7]

walter reaves it's to weed out certain individuals for the working class.

[@blackham7]

Legal gangs, like the police or certain higher ups in Congress and Hollywood.

[@dfjulesful]

All they had to do was call an ambulance on time and he would still be here today. 12 hours?

[@kembewalker]

I’m so sorry for that family loss, you could see those boys are loved

[@candiceseitz5798]

My heart goes out to this family. In the end no punishment will undo the damage. Keeping you in my prayers:)

[@relaxationstation7634]

0:20 Looks like the next wave of problematic senators: Hayden, Jayden, Brayden, and Okayden

[@davidjohnson2275]

I am [Expletive] outraged that these [Expletives] can be so heartless for their friend in his [Expletive] time of need.

[@superkrystal98]

12 hours?? Really. Gross and selfish of those frat guys for trying to help themselves instead of a dying boy.

[@jessicacurtze3477]

I’m so sorry to hear about the loss of your son. I went to Penn state games all the time and had several friends who went there for college and it’s a beautiful campus . I agree that alcohol should not be aloud on campuses it causes more problems than anything good .

[@gabrieladraper2322]

My thoughts and prays go out his family, this is very sad.

[@karlhungus1965]

His parents didn’t think there would be underage drinking? What a tragic slap of reality. When he decided to join the fraternity I’m sure his family wondered how bad the hazing would be. What an unnecessary loss that nobody wants to take responsibility for.

[@sadeatthewhip1846]

Ooh man the mom's eyes at 4:16 nearly killed me. Pure grief

[@JD-xp6gc]

I have three brothers in frats and I can tell you from what they've told me they do awful stuff to you, awful stuff , I'm starting my freshman year in the fall and let me tell I won't step foot in a fraternity

[@patricksedjro1764]

More like avoid university. To me, had I known about the debt trap, I would have never even bothered to go. I would have still been working at Safeway.