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Albanien 2017 ohne Musik Offroad 12m18 Steyr Pinzgauer KAT Unimog

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Big20

Big20

6 жыл бұрын

Humanitarian Aid Tour Albania 2017
11 ex-military cars on tour in Albanian villages, 900 packages for children an their families, self packed, self financed... Big thanks to all the generous donors
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@marcorudiger265
@marcorudiger265 9 ай бұрын
Wirklich eine der krassesten Geländetouren die ich hier gesehen habe!! Ich weiß in Realtime fühlt sich das alles noch 10x krasser an und das kann ich nachfühlen. Sehr gut gemachtes Video! Wäre gern dabei gewesen.....
@SiegfriedPortugaller
@SiegfriedPortugaller 4 жыл бұрын
Ich hätte nicht gedacht, wie mich dieses doch lange Video, das ich nur 5 Minuten zu schauen vorhatte, in den Bann gezogen hat und nicht mehr losgelassen hat bis zum ende. Und die Landschaft ist derart schön und unberührt und frugal, dass man bei jeder Kurve in neue Sehnsucht ausbricht. Super gemacht! Toll überlegt. Und konsequent den Rhythmus durchgehalten - Wahnsinn!
@Big20
@Big20 4 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank für diesen lieben Kommentar. Für uns war es ein sehr einmaliges Erlebnis.
@maax9334
@maax9334 8 ай бұрын
Geht mir genau gleich 😂👍🏻
@CN017
@CN017 5 жыл бұрын
Ohne Musik hat schon ein like verdient.
@agnaldoferreira434
@agnaldoferreira434 3 жыл бұрын
VERY GOOD OFF ROAD UNIMOG, I AM FROM BRAZIL RECIFE CITY
@alexanderczermak2888
@alexanderczermak2888 4 жыл бұрын
ich war 2007 in Albanien, sehr geiles Land! Jetzt fahr ich seit 34 Jahren LKW, auch viel im Gelände (12M18,KAT ,.....) aber am 680er 1 Kette links vorn und 1 rechts hinten, hab ich noch nie gesehen! Man lernt nie aus!
@erwinbernhard6505
@erwinbernhard6505 4 жыл бұрын
Sehr gut, der passende Ton zu den Bildern. Danke.
@KlajniKleiner
@KlajniKleiner 6 жыл бұрын
It is one of the best movie what I ever seen with the overlander trucks, congratz. It seems all trucks, tires tracking, techiques, and the trucks size! Is important especially when is the real destination - not just "trips around the chimney" Thank you :)
@emolicious7519
@emolicious7519 3 жыл бұрын
Wow many heavy weight class motorhomes in one video wow! Respect!👍👍👍
@1113bacbert
@1113bacbert Жыл бұрын
Einfach eine herrliche Aktion! Ich freue mich, dass ich auf euren Kanal gestoßen bin!
@rolandmolla6038
@rolandmolla6038 2 жыл бұрын
Wie ich sehe habt ihr richtig Spaß gehabt 🥰
@chelolopez45
@chelolopez45 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and very exciting. Very good teamwork, including the filming! Congratulations from Cordoba - Argentina.
@erikdoring291
@erikdoring291 2 жыл бұрын
Ihr seit ja komplett verrückt, das ist der pur Wahnsinn. Super Leistung an alle Beteiligten. Das Video ist fesselnd unklar . 👍👍👍👍👍😁👌 Viele würzige Grüße aus Thüringen
@s87583
@s87583 Жыл бұрын
Dankbar.
@jamesredgrove6141
@jamesredgrove6141 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, love it! I'm in the process of converting a Unimog into an expedition camper so this kind of video gives me 😍
@frankhopma
@frankhopma 6 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for humanitatian aid it would be mad man's work, now it's heroic! Great.
@user-pu9hk3iy8r
@user-pu9hk3iy8r 4 жыл бұрын
Спасибо автору за прекрасные кадры. У Вас было очень интересное путешествие
@luisramirez7262
@luisramirez7262 4 жыл бұрын
SALUDOS A TODOS, USTEDES SON UNICOS PASAR POR TANTOS RIOS, TANTA NIEVE Y MUUUICHO FRIO, VER ESAS ESPECTACULARES E IMPONENTES MAQUINAS ES MARAVILLOSO, NUNCA HE VISTO ALGO AS I CON.TANTAS DIFICULTADES Y CON.ESAS MARAVILLAS DE CAMIONES, GRACIAS POR COMPARTIR ESTE GENIAL VIDEO, PARA MI QUE NUNCA HE VISTO NIEVE SERIA ESPECTACULAR VIVIR ESA IRREPETIBLE EXPERIENCIA, FELICITACIONES A TODOS Y UN.RESPETUOSO SALUDO DESDE BOGOTA COLOMBIA SURAMERICA, DE NUEVO GRACIAS ADIOS.
@marcdriller839
@marcdriller839 4 жыл бұрын
Ein echt tolles Video
@leannaestep3066
@leannaestep3066 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously...this is beyond amazing. I would never want to do this, but I sure enjoy watching those of you who would.
@philhealey449
@philhealey449 5 жыл бұрын
Fabulous mission, some spirited driving in an interesting range of trucks in sticky situations and best of all, music supplied from engines and gearboxes!
@HuguesDelabaude
@HuguesDelabaude 4 жыл бұрын
The pleasures of life !!!... Congratulations to all !.....👍👍👍Bravo !...👏👏👏
@dimidomo7946
@dimidomo7946 5 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic journey to deliver goods and gifts. Big thank you to all those involved. Humanitarian relief and aid.
@susansmith5044
@susansmith5044 5 жыл бұрын
DAM I WAS SITTING IN THE EDGE OF MY SEAT!!! THANK YOU GOD YOU MADE IT.. LQVE YOU ALL..
@jessyeaviation9201
@jessyeaviation9201 4 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I felt. It is so scary sometimes when the road is destroyed, crushed by one's own wheels.
@mutt2jeff
@mutt2jeff 3 жыл бұрын
What a cool trip, I can’t believe I just watched the whole thing 😄
@user-fx2cj2lx7c
@user-fx2cj2lx7c 4 жыл бұрын
Super.
@arussianasset3948
@arussianasset3948 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I'd been there. Serious skill with off road rigs this weight.
@carlredmond3642
@carlredmond3642 6 жыл бұрын
Fabulous video...great to see all the driving tactics on detail and how you handle the various challenges you faced... very inspirational !!
@patcharapijit6091
@patcharapijit6091 6 жыл бұрын
Carl Redmond Isi
@tacmakina
@tacmakina 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive , nice landscape ..
@user-qd1jg7sr8o
@user-qd1jg7sr8o 4 жыл бұрын
Как я ВАМ завидую ребята !!!!!
@2009bokke
@2009bokke 4 жыл бұрын
finaly a super offroad truck video :-)
@midom9143
@midom9143 6 жыл бұрын
great video and great action for the families...
@alexaltrichter1597
@alexaltrichter1597 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of strife are the Albanian children in ? Is it a current war or something else?
@peterneuner6047
@peterneuner6047 3 жыл бұрын
@Alex Altrichter: extreme poverty in remote regions
@OOOOutdoorOffGridOverland
@OOOOutdoorOffGridOverland 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Steyr is the best all around and still offering good living space (but I might not be very objective) Pinzgauers are the best off roaders of all. Nice and informative video.
@markusscholz5683
@markusscholz5683 2 жыл бұрын
The strnge thing ia that the Steyrs have their centwr of gravity heigher than moat othera.
@pedroleonargentina
@pedroleonargentina 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!!!
@alfredlarcher3686
@alfredlarcher3686 4 жыл бұрын
Respekt! Tolle Truppe =D Wahnsinns Impressionen - Tolle Leistung aller Fahrer- Eine echte Team Leistung! Besonders beeindruckt vom MAN Fahrer mit dem schlechtesten Lenkeinschlag alles was gefilmt wurde hat oder haben die Lenker richtig beurteilt- kein Mangel ;) Danke für´s reinstellen werde es weiter empfehlen ;)
@josepaulo4544
@josepaulo4544 3 жыл бұрын
Isto sim é Off Road .o MAM é o caminhão é o mais top .parabens abraços do BRASIL🔰👋😁
@vitale6633
@vitale6633 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, Awesome! Thank You for sharing.
@briankelvindiffey3006
@briankelvindiffey3006 5 жыл бұрын
@big 20 Thanx 4 some of the best off roads i've seen, I meen there were some seriously dangerous situations on that trail.....
@magnussorensen2565
@magnussorensen2565 3 жыл бұрын
Mad respect to the drivers.
@saperkam
@saperkam 4 жыл бұрын
Молодцы!!! Хорошая работа и отличный отдых!))
@jessyeaviation9201
@jessyeaviation9201 4 жыл бұрын
Very exêrienced drivers . It is so scary sometimes when the road is destroyed, crushed by one's own wheels. Whoah ! they have done a great job for theese families .Congratulations
@ssk3204
@ssk3204 3 жыл бұрын
Man .. I want to own one of these one day.
@bandit8720
@bandit8720 6 жыл бұрын
Sehr schön!
@mariapaolahernandes3886
@mariapaolahernandes3886 2 жыл бұрын
Que hermoza travesia!
@tainoproyecto
@tainoproyecto Жыл бұрын
Hallo Raimund. Liebe Grüße von Alfredo Feuerstein.
@user-ho5rp3dn6e
@user-ho5rp3dn6e 5 жыл бұрын
真好有意义的一次穿越啊 如果能带上我就完美了
@tonyanderson7854
@tonyanderson7854 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome I so want to be in this club one day
@dolmarf411
@dolmarf411 4 жыл бұрын
Take a 6 cilinder land cruiser, you gonna have more fun.
@pauleberhard5551
@pauleberhard5551 4 жыл бұрын
Gratuliere Paul und Maria mit Monty !!!!
@JointerMark
@JointerMark 4 жыл бұрын
A very interesting video. Some very impressive driving skills in some interesting situations.
@JP-wh5bt
@JP-wh5bt 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure, i watched after 1:45 , but RESPECT & continue!
@omer.farukgulsen4553
@omer.farukgulsen4553 4 жыл бұрын
Muhteşem.
@78a67h
@78a67h 4 жыл бұрын
Well made video pleasant to watch. The drivers have some skills but not enough. In certain difficult situations not the correct action was taken to resolve.
@coachgeo
@coachgeo 5 жыл бұрын
interesting the tire decisions..... like the smaller off yellow truck with narrow tires compared to others with larger float-ish tires
@scottcarlon6318
@scottcarlon6318 5 жыл бұрын
coachgeo And the decision to go with no deferential locker. Poor choice, glad he was able to complete the task, considering the added drama.
@marcpikas2859
@marcpikas2859 5 жыл бұрын
Some of those trucks did better than others along that trail/track. Except for a couple of them they all appeared to come close to flipping over owing to their height. But none did!!!!
@bogtrotter10
@bogtrotter10 5 жыл бұрын
What a great adventure
@user-bd9ye6po4m
@user-bd9ye6po4m 4 жыл бұрын
Best..!!
@imcoolboy4971
@imcoolboy4971 5 жыл бұрын
It’s really adventurous
@WillemLuntungan
@WillemLuntungan Жыл бұрын
Nice truck
@cepal67
@cepal67 5 жыл бұрын
it amazes me what some people can achieve without the basic knowledge of the activity they are attempting - ie. in this case, adjusting the tyres pressure for offroading, or disengaging the diff lock for sharp turns...
@buconovosel7742
@buconovosel7742 4 жыл бұрын
With such high baricenter and so much tilting,softening the tyres would add to more tilting and possibly overturning.They also had good grip,not much sliding back,specialy when they put chains on.All in all well done,on my advice.
@TomSilver_42
@TomSilver_42 4 жыл бұрын
overall nice video, regardless that yelowish caravan and KAT seems to me a bit inappropriate in those narrow windy back country roads, they made it and I was surprised. Plus woman driver in one of the trucks, rare flower.
@franzhinterregger6351
@franzhinterregger6351 3 жыл бұрын
Ein Traum! Aber...irgendwie lustig...schon dax 2te Video in dem ein Pinzgauer einen LKW "retten" muss.....wahrlich ein Arbeitstier, der 712er :-)
@vanstour5781
@vanstour5781 3 жыл бұрын
Very strong men!
@myzafersulce2518
@myzafersulce2518 4 жыл бұрын
Molto bravi.......
@mikezog1030
@mikezog1030 4 жыл бұрын
The Steyr and Mog looked like they had the best of it - well sized, big wheels and sharper turn circles. The dark brown one too (not sure what it is?). The MAN was too long for the conditions. The other's wheels were a bit small and not enough clearance. Didn't see much of the 6x 6 in the tough stuff, but it seemed like its engine wasn't up to much. The Mogs clearance made it so easy for it. I see it was used upfront a lot.
@peterneuner6047
@peterneuner6047 3 жыл бұрын
@Mike Zog: the 6x6 Pinzgauers drove ahead on most difficult sections, they were the ones with the least problems in heavy offroad sections. Their only issue was the load capacity, but they made up for that with agility, speed and offroad capabilities.
@mrmyster1540
@mrmyster1540 4 жыл бұрын
tres beaux reportage je vous envie
@coyottelec
@coyottelec 6 жыл бұрын
excellente vidéo les gas, j'aurai rêvé de faire parti du voyage ;)
@fabianyanez.v8504
@fabianyanez.v8504 6 жыл бұрын
Moi aussi.
@coachgeo
@coachgeo 5 жыл бұрын
is there video anywhere of how they got the corrugated sided Steyr out of its predicament in video around 45:27. Very curious.. and sad that it was not shot on video or was edited out. Viewing further I see that this truck and the Pinz were no longer in video? You leave them out there :p
@peterneuner6047
@peterneuner6047 3 жыл бұрын
@coachgeo: the two Pinzgauers made it easily around that corner and drove ahead to survey the area. The Steyr you see in that corner, eventually made it in the night. There is a video too, but it’s too dark to see much. The rest of the group turned around, because the humanitarian aid mission was the priority and we had lost too much time there. Both groups met up the next day in Elbasan to finish the mission.
@theodoros.papaioannou
@theodoros.papaioannou 5 жыл бұрын
That 680m suffering to get over even the light inclinated track...i remember them from the army...
@78a67h
@78a67h 4 жыл бұрын
Now made in Greece under license by EΛΒΟ. Before these the Gr. army used the American Deuce or REO as it is better known there.
@Brandy911
@Brandy911 6 жыл бұрын
52:40 "Jo leck mi om Orsch ! Der scheiss Steyr ... ! :-)))
@christianmuller4027
@christianmuller4027 5 жыл бұрын
Wowwww. Great video. Really nice without music. How did you escape in the corner with the water? You removed the big roots, but the Styer was sliding. My respect. It was really a difficult trail. But very interesting. Thank you for shared your video Sincerely Chris
@Big20
@Big20 4 жыл бұрын
It was night and we can't Film it. Wit winch an shovel we turned the back from the 12m18. We need a lot of time for one truck. So nevt day a lot of snow and the rest drive the same road back. But the vew with new snow was amazing
@klaudioharhulla953
@klaudioharhulla953 4 жыл бұрын
Sehr gut jungs
@user-wx5yw7zg6e
@user-wx5yw7zg6e 4 жыл бұрын
大変素晴らしいですね!
@chantalchantal9576
@chantalchantal9576 4 жыл бұрын
🙈🙉🙊bravo 👍🌸💜
@kl0br1ll3
@kl0br1ll3 6 жыл бұрын
Haben alle zu viel Geld und Zeit. Ich bin neidisch 😊
@rocco5045
@rocco5045 6 жыл бұрын
If Im not mistaken you did pass thru Karlovac Croatia
@Serbid
@Serbid 5 жыл бұрын
Good from Siberia!
@JP-wh5bt
@JP-wh5bt 5 жыл бұрын
Now I did watch. Who of these negatives did watch & can pls explain??
@sunside79334
@sunside79334 6 жыл бұрын
680er. da werden erinnerungen wach... ^^
@thomasl.v.3283
@thomasl.v.3283 5 жыл бұрын
voll das geile Video (y); tolle Fahrzeuge (y) GRATULIERE euch. s.G. thomas
@coachgeo
@coachgeo 5 жыл бұрын
anyone know which of these Steyrs had the habitat mounted via "Captured Spring" front and solid rear mounts, or some variation of that and which ones used pivoting central mount system?
@beni12020
@beni12020 3 жыл бұрын
It´s a bit late but probably still interesting: all Steyr Trucks have solid axles front and rear except from the Pinzgauer and Haflinger, which have the same “Zentralrohrrahmen” as the Tatra trucks and independent suspension . In this Video there are two “Pinzis”, the smaller 6 wheel driven trucks, although they have been built as 4x4 as well.
@coachgeo
@coachgeo 3 жыл бұрын
@@beni12020 yep. my question is about the camper cabin sub frame not the vehicle suspension. Can understand the confusion though.
@peterneuner6047
@peterneuner6047 3 жыл бұрын
@coachgeo: all the Steyr trucks in the video have spring-mounted subframes, except for the Unimog and the MAN Ka1, which have the original flatbed with the MAN having the shelter bolted to it. The pivoting central mount systems have more disadvantages than advantages, i.e. higher centre of gravity, less stable onroad, especially during emergenca braking from higher speeds and in corners, hardly any advantages offroad, especially with vehicles that have front lockers like the Steyr and well engineered spring-mounted frames. The higher centre of gravity of the pivoting central mount systems is also a disadvantage offroad of course. I would take the spring-mounted system again anytime!
@lunchlu1720
@lunchlu1720 4 жыл бұрын
Hello,can you upload more video about that camo unimog?I like It very much😍😍😍😍
@saschagrannersberger5787
@saschagrannersberger5787 4 жыл бұрын
Wir wohnen auch in salzburg waren dieses jahr in bisnien mit unserem defender
@isakbonaventura2825
@isakbonaventura2825 4 жыл бұрын
Good initiative!
@chrisrea7347
@chrisrea7347 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the video! Did all the trucks make it? The Steyr's seem to handle the conditions the best!
@roterrock1236
@roterrock1236 6 жыл бұрын
Leute, dass sieht ja richtig cool aus. Das ist sogar jemand aus meinem Landkreis dabei (GER) ... würde mich mal interessieren wer das ist - um mal über das grandiose mobil ein Bier zu trinken ;)
@jogibaer2204
@jogibaer2204 5 жыл бұрын
Bei aller symphatie für eure Hilfsaktion - aber ich frage mich ob es nicht kostengünstiger gewesen wäre die hilfsgüter an einen Flugplatz in Albanien zu bringen und die restiche Verteilung per Hubschrauber in die entlegenden Regionen zu machen
@user-ho5rp3dn6e
@user-ho5rp3dn6e 5 жыл бұрын
哈哈 你也是越野爱好者吗
@jogibaer2204
@jogibaer2204 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-ho5rp3dn6e ääääh - kann mir das mal jemand übersetzen
@Big20
@Big20 4 жыл бұрын
Nun, das ganze privat organisiert, jeder Fahrer zahlt seine eigenen Kosten. Sie stellen Ihre Fahrzeuge zur Verfügung und packen mit an bei der Verteilung.... Hubschrauber??? Zahlst du den? 🤣
@bobinthewest8559
@bobinthewest8559 4 жыл бұрын
So... at the end there... I couldn't help but think there may have been an easier route to their destination, lol
@coachgeo
@coachgeo 5 жыл бұрын
Does the grey Steyr have tilting solar panels? there seems to be a large arm there for some sort of articulation... maybe it shows further in video.
@user-ho5rp3dn6e
@user-ho5rp3dn6e 5 жыл бұрын
几十个同样兴趣爱好的人在一起玩 真是美妙我人生体验啊
@aquarellesvagabondes
@aquarellesvagabondes 4 жыл бұрын
pire que le Paris Dakar. dans une vidéo vous avez consommez autant de gas-oil que moi dans toute ma vie et pour aller ou???
@boomzoomovich
@boomzoomovich 5 жыл бұрын
25:40 Моё безмерное уважение этой прекрасной даме, она хороша во всех смыслах этого слова.
@mercedes-benzmercedes-benz9553
@mercedes-benzmercedes-benz9553 4 жыл бұрын
This is Albania 🇦🇱
@hanzkranz1319
@hanzkranz1319 6 жыл бұрын
Sind die Wald und Feldwege da in der Regel freibefahrbahr? Oder muss man die suchen?
@Big20
@Big20 4 жыл бұрын
Es sind eigentlich Straßen die sogar teilweise im GPS sind, nur nicht mehr genutzt werden. 😛
@michaelgahler4729
@michaelgahler4729 4 жыл бұрын
Einige der Teilnehmer brauchen aber noch etwas an Übung. Wie zum Beispiel der Fahrer des KAT
@Big20
@Big20 4 жыл бұрын
Sieht so aus. 👍 🤣 Man lernt bekanntlich aus Fehlern.
@haumichweg14
@haumichweg14 4 жыл бұрын
1:40 Hätte aber auch jemand der Rumstehenden den Tipp geben können, die Räder in die andere Richtung einzuschlagen.
@Tillerman56
@Tillerman56 4 жыл бұрын
Do you realize that Albanian people depend on using these roads? I know it is one of the last offroad paradises (I've been there myself), but churning up those roads with enormous 4x4 trucks....
@Big20
@Big20 4 жыл бұрын
We searched and used the old unused streets. We build bridges to drive some old streets. Some streets are small rivers now....
@peterneuner6047
@peterneuner6047 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the roads we drove had not been used in more than 20 years. We fixed a lot of sections in the roads we used, so they could also be used by the local population again. We also supplied many remote villages with essential materials, such as wood stoves, school computers or washing machines. So before making comments like yours, you could politely ask us participants first what the fuck we were doing there!
@wieeinstlilimarleen
@wieeinstlilimarleen 6 жыл бұрын
The MAN KAT1 really seems ill-suited, in trouble at every corner that all the other trucks pass willy-nilly.
@0whip99
@0whip99 6 жыл бұрын
Das liegt aber am langen Radstand des KAT1, er ist halt nicht so wendig. Glaub mir: Wo der KAT1 Schwierigkeiten hat, sind alle Anderen schon lange festgefahren
@scottcarlon6318
@scottcarlon6318 5 жыл бұрын
Appears to be a poor tire selection,....and no deferential locker.
@rastabasta5469
@rastabasta5469 3 жыл бұрын
This TATRA 805 is it from Hanzelka and Zikmund CS ???
@christianka6cr1
@christianka6cr1 5 жыл бұрын
Schönes Video. Da kommt unser umgebauter Vito aber nur im Sommer durch.... ....aber geplant ist eine ebensolche Tour in nächsten Zeit trotzdem. Macht ihr denn auch im Sommer solche Fahrten, würde mich gerne einbringen und ebenfalls Hilfgüter transportieren, im Rahmen des in einem Vito möglichen, wobei wir eine 3,2m x 60cm x 35cm lange "Schublade" unter dem Bett haben. Eigentlich gedacht für unsere Hobbyausrüstung, aber selbige muss da eh zum Großteil daheim bleiben. Liebe Grüße, vor allem an den Rastatter Mog-Fahrer aus der Nachbarschaft
@Big20
@Big20 4 жыл бұрын
Gefahren wird immer zur Weihnachtszeit, manchmal fahren sie im Herbst auch. Falls Interesse, gebe ich die Daten weiter. Info@big20.at
@olloll112
@olloll112 3 жыл бұрын
Where is off-road on this video?!!!??! Good road. I leave in Russia and i laugh at it
@ihmesekoilua
@ihmesekoilua 5 жыл бұрын
Hey was this the thing I read about in Explorer magazine?
@klausmichaelis4056
@klausmichaelis4056 8 ай бұрын
Hat der Kat den Turbo aus dem 6x6/8x8 mit 360 PS drin?ich meineeinen Turbplader gehört zu haben.
@Big20
@Big20 8 ай бұрын
Hallo, ja es ist der Turbo vom 8x8 mit 360 PS! Der Motor ist aber noch a bisserl aufgemotzt und hat ca. 440 PS
@klausmichaelis4056
@klausmichaelis4056 8 ай бұрын
@@Big20 440 PS? Hast Du keine Angst vorzu hohen Zylinderkopftemperaturen? Ich bin mit einem 8x8 (kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKDHimR7abt0ock ) kreuz und quer durch Europa gefahren. Gut er hatte 32t, es ging aber öfters die Zylinderkopfllampe an.
@Big20
@Big20 8 ай бұрын
Bei 12 Tonnen gar kein Problem !!! Ich bin froh, wenn er richtig heiß wird.
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