Never Burn An ESC AGAIN!

[@MaxBeamer]

for those asking how to limit heres the a video i made on calculating the proper motor output percent for your motors and easiest way to do it in goggles around the 2 minute mark 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZomaqISwhbx1iLc

[@doktordrone]

Thanks Max 👍🤩🔥

[@lidotrijsturis]

Albert Kim 😉

[@3sheekfpv976]

thank you Max i have not burned any esc since you made the first video on output limits a while back. unbelievable man! 👏 👏

[@PropagndaX]

Yooo man I been saying it since I learnt from you my dude the motor output limit is the hidden gem broski Never replaced an esc from burning out in a minute. Lets goooo

[@skyhackerfpv7104]

welcome back Max! great info in this video, it makes sense why you haven't fried any electronics 🤙

[@MaxBeamer]

Thx bro! I know right? I'm glad too, FPV has been super cheap lately haha

[@joshuayoung6286]

Welcome back! I’ve first heard of TOA motors on one of your videos. Now got 4 quads all with TOA motors. U give solid advice. Looking forward to more vids.

[@The_3G_Eclipse_Guy]

Excellent logic on the Limiter to never over amp the esc. Smart

[@viacheslavk3587]

hey man, sorry, but i didnt understand a thing from your emotional speech. So did you just replace 6s with 4s?

[@MaxBeamer]

not sure, try subtitles.

[@FlyturboKwad]

Good to know, thx for sharing your experience!

[@rueda82nd]

3 4 months is nothing welcome back. I took a 2 years break, was freakin awesome flying again!

[@jorgeromero4680]

from two years ago should have been night and day comparing to today

[@rueda82nd]

@@jorgeromero4680 it was tech has come a long way with Digital. I also was tripping on the smart audio and other kewl tech& gear. Also a lot of the FC fly well on Stock PID's noneed to really tune only fine tuning.

[@jjj25313]

What’s the difference between just running 4s?

[@aroob2730]

welcome back maxiiii we love you from Saudi Arabia

[@MaxBeamer]

thx man much love! 👊✌️

[@Gavinxlee]

Good to see you back, man!!!

[@TheBjornarv]

Good to see you are back!🙌

[@Mikebfpv]

Leeetts gooooooo! Good to see you back man! I've been preachin motor output for dayz. I've missed your content man, nobody does it like you. Let's go!

[@MaxBeamer]

yehhhhbuddy lets getit 🚀

[@supafpv1759]

Welcome back my guy! Missed your 🔥 vids

[@MaxBeamer]

thx man glad to be back!

[@epierce18]

Glad your back. Those are perfect for a giveaway. I’m trying to get better into this fpv thing. Lol

[@RawTopShot]

*you're* (it's the abbreviation / contraction of *you are* *your* is a possessive; your keys, your coat, your house, your life, your quad, your skill etc. Your life...( your life ) You're life...( you are life ) I'm glad your back (you are happy about his physical back for some reason?) I'm glad you're back ( I am happy that you are back, you have returned ) See how different they are?

[@tshirtfactory07]

@@RawTopShot thank you!!!!!! This is a pet peeve of mine

[@frenkyfpv6078]

i love your videos, welcome back dude 👍

[@MaxBeamer]

thx man! 👊🖖

[@PropagndaX]

THE RETURN OF THE MACK 🔥🔥🔥 Lets gooooo fam

[@MaxBeamer]

my guyyy good to be rippin the skies again for suree👊

[@PropagndaX]

@@MaxBeamer LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@BayLA415626]

shit makes sense im no longer purchasing low kv to run my 6s

[@MaxBeamer]

yehh bro ive been getting some dms from ppl that told me it works for them too and they havent popped any esc since my last vid about it last year so theres gotta be something to it!

[@helixinwonderland8938]

Thanks. Some things to think about now. I´m running 5", 4s, 2400Kv., Just change for 6s? Doing the output limit and, good to go? Some different feel to throtle expected? I've been flyng this two quads for two years now and, I've never burned an ESC, individual ESC. Well, this period of time includes my first flights with 5". Not much abuse when you start to learn. Maybe I'm just not pushing it enought still. No bandos except for a short flying experience once : )

[@MaxBeamer]

check iut this video it shows how to calculate the percentage and do it in goggles youll be fine throwing a 6s pack and limiting it down with those motors as long as the **ESC IS RATED FOR 6s input voltage** kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZomaqISwhbx1iLc (starts at around 2 minute mark) no difference in throttle curve really i actually think it feels better at the bottom end

[@helixinwonderland8938]

@@MaxBeamer Got it. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Cheers

[@3sheekfpv976]

where can i find props overseas from the end of the video??

[@MaxBeamer]

try the foxeer website

[@eldenchunugus]

Bro I literally had that "unpoppable esc" explode and light on fire after about a year of flying fine.

[@short-circuitz]

*current...... We got'cha. I'm pick'n up what u puttin down.. Glad to see u rippin again.... been a minute bro!

[@MaxBeamer]

it sure has haha thx man glad to be back! 👊 🖖

[@Noidfpv]

Hell yeah .welcome back!😎👍🔥

[@MaxBeamer]

thx, much love!

[@brendand.2269]

Max Missed you man!!!!!!

[@sunshynff]

I know this is a year old but I couldn't have stumbled on this video at a better time, your advice just made my friggin day!!!! I'm building a 6" chase quad, digital set up, but also with the raddix, the motors I went with are the xilo 2604 1350kv, thing is, they were out of the 1350kv so they sent me the 1650kv, and said they could exchange them if I didn't want them, I was trying to decide if I should send them back, but after watching this, I'm actually glad they sent me the higher kv motors. Thanks again!!

[@Aridrona]

Glad you didnt go full charpu bra

[@MaxBeamer]

haha it was close but i love flying to damn much

[@galx3573]

Welcome back man

[@MrSmithFPV]

Is he talking about the motor throttle limit in betaflight?

[@MaxBeamer]

nah this is different heres a video showing how to calculate and change motor output it starts around the min mark if you’re interested kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZomaqISwhbx1iLc

[@MrSmithFPV]

@@MaxBeamer Thanks, watched it.

[@squaddingquads]

Hey Max welcome back man

[@MaxBeamer]

thx man! good to be backkkkk

[@squaddingquads]

@@MaxBeamer yas my G

[@dariuszrogowski2360]

also how to limit it ? any instructions ? thanks

[@MaxBeamer]

this video around the 2 min mark shows how to limit it kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZomaqISwhbx1iLc

[@dariuszrogowski2360]

@@MaxBeamer thanks bro. Have another question, for the TOA 2306 1950KV what esc to fit ? many thanks

[@MaxBeamer]

@@dariuszrogowski2360 i love the ak32pin or ak32 links are in the description

[@dariuszrogowski2360]

@@MaxBeamer many thanks for reply. Will be updating what i build 👍🏽

[@kuliahtransportasi]

thanks, Max

[@Datfpv]

love the beard... welcome back

[@MaxBeamer]

haha thx 👊

[@RCThis]

Welcome back

[@brandonwoodford579]

I'm almost 100% sure the Pid controller is still allowed to use full 100% throttle output, even when throttle limited. Say when stopping a flip, or a roll.

[@jjj25313]

I believe this is true. But setting the motor output limit in the CLI should prevent this.

[@paulgeorge1069]

Glad to see your back. Look forward to some tutorial videos☠️

[@luketurff364]

Awesome your back in it mate you have really helped me tune my skills 🤜

[@MaxBeamer]

love hearing that thx man 🙏 👊

[@KLNYC]

MIA that long? good to see u back.

[@MaxBeamer]

yeh bro time flys, thanks! 👊

[@marinehm]

Welcome back. How about a video about setting up in Betaflight or Radio (Output Limit?) so you don’t burn an ESC. I think you’re meaning throttle limit?

[@MaxBeamer]

i have a video on it called “the best way to fpv” i show how to do it in goggles as well. motor output limit is diff than throttle limit as it actually limits the output voltage from esc to motors at scale instead of just the throttle signal

[@sergeybessonov2216]

Max, tell me a reliable and trouble-free flight from modern for the race and long-range, except for Brian raddix?

[@jr_fpv3418]

What's up bro, good video, glad I stumbled across your channel. What part of Louisiana you at?

[@dariuszrogowski2360]

good to see you back. What about Kiss stack? could you tell me the difference? Thanks

[@MaxBeamer]

its just a different flight control software that requires its own specific parts and doesnt come with internal OSD so you need to buy and solder an osd board, that in itself makes it not worth it to me, some ppl prefer the way it flys but i haven’t messed with it too much and prefer betaflight for now

[@gerrysquire]

welcome back

[@MaxBeamer]

glad to be back!

[@jessefpv9217]

I've had bad luck as well with 4in1 escs. Mainly the Airbot typhoon 35 blheli 32 esc contacted them said they would send new one but never did. I was the second flight I was brand new paired with the new airbot f7 fc.

[@steve_beatty]

Something I've said for years..." No such thing as too much horse power...only poor throttle management"....

[@MaxBeamer]

yessss bro with all the new software there is no excuse!

[@jaredmende3641]

So How Do it use it on Kiss? Or Betaflight? I agree with everything you use.. What about Kiss Flyduino FC and ESCS?

[@devilcfpv2621]

I have been flying with the F80Pro-2200kv on 6s of course. And after about 2 months of hard flying the F55a 4-1esc by T-Motor. Will just pop. It’s frustrating as shit. See I like my 5” GRL frames to go just as fast if not faster then a racing quad. I love having high kv so I’m not wanting to change that and I don’t wanna put a limit on it so what ESC you think can handle that kind of power draw?

[@Jackrichardsvids]

Do you have your pids for this build?

[@jackiemonroejemfpv4204]

I love the Linda Linda video! Every time me and my wife debate . I say but Linda Linda it’s grandma house and I can at grandmas house. Thanks for sharing your findings!✌️😎💨

[@friendlynomad9840]

Have you ever met TorqueFPV? They're in Metairie.

[@MaxBeamer]

nahhh i havent, tell him to hit me up!

[@WhateverFPV]

Welcome back. Where in Louisiana are you? I am in Monroe myself.

[@MaxBeamer]

I'm in good ol Lafayette cajun country cher 😂

[@WhateverFPV]

@@MaxBeamer If you ever make it up here, LMK. We can rip it up BRO!

[@adamdoyle9481]

Damn bro, I’m moving back to Louisiana PM me we need to meet up and fly

[@guyconiglio8223]

looking into getting high KV motors and high C batteries, hoping not to smoke my new quad. Thanks for your advice!

[@quadfather504fpv9]

Dude i didn't know you from Louisiana , im in new Orleans if you ever around the area it'd be awesome to fly with you one day , n welcome back i had to step back from fpv for a while and just getting back keep up the good work 👍👍

[@MaxBeamer]

heck yeh broski ill dm you i havent been there in a minute a trip is surely due!

[@southerndig]

if I'm already running 2207/1750kv 6s do you still limit?

[@wochsd3620]

Hi Max, I don't know if you will still reply but would you say that most stacks a esc (iflight for example) will last for a long time as long as you don't exceed the max current rating ? Thanks in advance

[@neon7fpv799]

bro I been using it since you talked about it the 1st time.i do have dedicated 6s rigs but still fly my apex with 2750 kv dial down for 6s

[@bratwurstmaxxehaxxe5315]

also capacitors are the deal to stabalizing electronics

[@WIL_FPV]

glad to see u 👍

[@jackjohnson5024]

I don't understand what you mean, what difference does it make to the esc if the motor is 1750 kV naturally or limited to 1750 kV. Surely it would be just the same for the esc?

[@MaxBeamer]

well its like running 4s on a 6s esc since you are scaling down voltage output to the motors and having way more headroom against spikes and such

[@danemartin5288]

Awesome stuff

[@afifathnin]

Yo my guy, Flightone or emuflight has throttle output limit. Is it the same??

[@MaxBeamer]

i dont think so i know flightone has motor output limit for sure i believe they were the first ones to get it running properly.

[@ye11owb0y21]

those aikon look a lot similar to the heli-nation gigawatt ESC and the newbeedrone ESC. are they made by the same company?

[@MaxBeamer]

i believe they make theirs and newbeedrones and also crickets 4in1 esc I cant attest to the quality of the others but the OG Ak32pin is saweeeeet

[@FPV_G]

You still pull the same amount of amps/watts. Makes no sense.

[@MaxBeamer]

voltage out goes down less stress on the esc and a sort of protective wall against voltage spikes

[@3sheekfpv976]

i disagree it works for me i love being able to adjust variable kv too

[@wiebel1991]

amps/watts will be lower. because you limit the current, NOT the voltage. a FET controls amps, not volts. But just go lower in KV, more power with less amps. motor output limit makes no sense, unless you don't want to buy new motors.

[@FPV_G]

@@wiebel1991 Exactly this. Thanks for explaining it properly.

[@h2o-fpv623]

Great video thank u.

[@southerndig]

Hey man! where at in Louisiana? I'm in NOLA and always looking for people to fly with. Thanks for the videos.

[@MaxBeamer]

add me on IG ill hyu next time i almost went last month to fly with steele while he was there but things came up im always in hammond nola etc

[@galx3573]

I’ve seen a few people said that when you put output limiting it makes it difficult to tune. (If you do tune) have you noticed anything like that?

[@MaxBeamer]

no i actually will use it as a tuning tool also sometimes.. if i notice vibrations i can often get rid of them or lessen them from lowering or maybe even raising the voltage to the motors. i will say it may affect tuning if you tune to the absolute limits of the quad like some do and then change the kv that may have some negative effects but overall its fine 👌

[@galx3573]

@@MaxBeamer yea that makes sense. I think the people that do complain about it messing up their tune are people who have tuned their quad or maybe have something that’s a little unique and then they go to try it and it makes their quad fly weird so they get all upset.

[@breakalegfpv9532]

maybe you will show us how to limit the power one day ?

[@steve_beatty]

I forget what it's called exactly in betaflight but search for " motor limit betaflight" or "throttle limit betaflight" and there are tons of videos..it's a simple cli command if I remember right.. ..

[@breakalegfpv9532]

@@steve_beatty thank you man, you rock !!

[@MaxBeamer]

yeh i have a another video here with how to do it even with goggles kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZomaqISwhbx1iLc check around the 2:00 or 2:20 minute mark!

[@breakalegfpv9532]

@@MaxBeamer thank you, glad to see you bro.

[@stickboyfpv4742]

03:21 *amperage! Thanks, I usually get 1700 kv.... I must try this! 2207's?

[@MaxBeamer]

2306 is my jam love the low end on em and i find the TOAS actually have enough top end too

[@stickboyfpv4742]

@@MaxBeamer aight BET! How long can you rip with em?! I like my bbb 2306 1700 on 6s! Feeels like I get q solid 2 extra min compared to 4s!

[@TheDroneNerd]

Isn’t 2600 kind of high a kv to run 6s ? 🧐

[@MaxBeamer]

Thats the whole point! did you watch the video?? lol

[@TheDroneNerd]

@@MaxBeamer No I couldn’t bother to finish it this was stupid tbh. You should familiarize yourself a bit better with betaflight… 😂

[@Bigbeardfpv]

Hey Max - what do you lose when you limit a 2600kv motor to say 1800kv? I've learned there is always a tradeoff in life for everything...

[@MaxBeamer]

you might lose a bit of low end torque but on 2306 imo it’s negligible just gotta play around with it until u get the feel u want, can always change it up or down in the goggles so if you want a longer flight for example u can lower it even more or if u want to spazz out u can raise it etc.. the main loss id say tho is a bit of “torqueyness”

[@mcronfpv8736]

Chris rosser has bench tested this : you loose up to 10% in efficiency. That being said, my main bashing kwad is a 2300kv apex I run on 4, 5 or 6S using motor output limit, and I'm willing to give up some efficiency for the convenience of flying any battery I have laying around.

[@jjj25313]

Wouldn’t you effectively be using a 4s battery at that point? So you’d lose all advantages of running 6s, but you’d stress out your batteries less. I don’t see how motor output limiting a 6s would save your esc any more than running 4s. But 4s batteries are so cheap. I feel like you’d be better off just using 4s batteries and then buying new ones more often. Thoughts?

[@oddeman3489]

FPV over ping pong every time.

[@dave3883]

Makes sense

[@ojonfpv]

Like number 200 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@lnteI]

i just burned 1 motor 1800kv and esc on 6s :/

[@3sheekfpv976]

try the limiting it works!

[@WindjumbieFPV]

Glad to see you bro, you got our full support 👊🏽 #islandfpv

[@MaxBeamer]

you the man! good to be back 👊

[@libmananchannel]

Wow! Hello my friend! it's amazing! It's wonderful video! Thank you for giving us some very helpful information! It's a very interesting video! It's really wonderful! Nice upload! And it's great high quality video! I really like it! Thank you for sharing!

[@MaxBeamer]

thx for watching i appreciate ya!

[@pritchfpv6070]

I think only Works on over KV'd motors lol

[@MaxBeamer]

obviously lol! you could i guess limit a 6s motor to like 90% or something if it isnt below 1750 and still get good results but I dunno, mostly for above 1900-2000kv

[@dee1251]

So I think my esc may be broken , I crashed my Mark5 and the fc wouldn’t beep correctly , it looked burned , as well as my ESC (see link) , I sent GEPRC the fc and they fixed it , but not sure if I should hook up this ESC to it. Should I just try it or buy a new one ? kzbin.info9tqiAj7ilfU?feature=share

[@nerdCopter]

+1👍 M.O.L. 💪 Louisianian neighbor

[@nukekasparov]

Good to see you back man... Ive also run 2550 kv on 6s with output limit.. its awesome 🔥

[@MaxBeamer]

👌 👌👌

[@armandrone9016]

Dude, I'm testing an ideal esc ... In the 2 "quad I have an AIKON AK32 35A, in the 3 inch I have a Hobbywing X-ROTOR 40 20x20 40A and finally, in the 5 inch I have a Holybro Tekko 32 F3 45A, all are working perfectly, but AIKON delivers a performance that I love !!!

[@MaxBeamer]

yesss bro ive flown all those as well holybro one isnt too shabby either

[@gozillasin9934]

Yah, I always set MOL 90-95% for my mind peaceful even I dont need it. I thought I got this idea from you long time ago. LOL You are the one of very few pilot who provide real useful FPV flight technique, THX!

[@MaxBeamer]

thx bro, yeh ive made a video on this last year too but just realized that its been saving my escs too!

[@elxero2189]

You haven't had to replace a motor because you don't fly hard enough..... Lol nah I'm jk man

[@MaxBeamer]

haha its gotta be some luck too bc theyre all dinged up but fly fine so 🤷‍♂️

[@tome1271]

remember to also set throttle limit in rate tab profile.

[@MaxBeamer]

theres no need to set throttle limit when u use motor output limiting

[@tome1271]

@@MaxBeamer no but that is how you dot it. You go batt tab and set to 4.4 volts. Then pid profile.. set auto_profile_cell_count = 6 and output limit to 71 for eg. However u must also go into the rates tab to set throttle limit right?

[@changeagent228]

Welcome back. You should watch this m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKGThqesl92np6c After properly bench testing 6s on 4s is not optimal unfortunately. Just saying. 👍

[@truefpvblood158]

👊👊😎🍻🍻🍻

[@cowboyfpv2464]

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@DronePlayground]

💪🤗👀🇭🇷

[@lidotrijsturis]

Too long vid

[@FPVREVIEWS]

Doesn’t know the difference between voltage and amperage. Also between mechanical and thermo.. 🥹

[@TheTryzna]

Glad to see you back man!

[@MaxBeamer]

thx broski glad to be ripping again! 🖖