Why Frollo Is The Perfect Villain

[@albertthepeacock8020]

Hunchback fans sleep easy every night knowing Disney wouldn't touch their movie with a Live Action remake

[@annaburke6445]

I really hope that it's true they'd absolutely ruin frollo

[@acsound]

Much like Peter Pan, HoND already has a bunch of live-action adaptions: in this case, long-predating this 1990s-era Disney movie. If DISNEY is stupid enough to attempt a live-action adaption of this animated adaption, it will fail even harder than MULAN 2020 did. Especially since Tony Jay has passed (RIP), so there isn't an actor that could hard-carry the live-action movie on his back the way an elderly-but-still-alive Jay could've. (Nor could Christopher "Count Dooku/Saruman" Lee -- the only other fellow who might been able to pull of Disney's iteration on Frollo...b/c Lee is also deceased.)

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

I would be livid if they touched this movie.

[@captaincaspian42]

Sooooo... there's a remake in the works 😅

[@orangeslash1667]

@@annaburke6445 Fun Fact: Disney confirmed that Frollo was inspired by Amon Göth from Schindler's List.

[@oranjaglad8648]

As someone with Christian beliefs, Frollo is a prime example of how far you can take said beliefs in the most dangerous ways possible. And like you said, what makes him scarier than the other Disney villains is that he’s human; lacking no supernatural abilities, but the one thing he has is the iron grip of his actions.

[@yellowstarproductions6743]

Agreed.

[@olstar18]

Christian as well but I take it more as an example of why church and state must never be mixed. There is a lot of temptation with just the power inherent in being a shepherd to the congregation. Adding temporal power on top of that is just to dangerous.

[@TheZamaron]

Indeed, Frollo just does sinful and horrendous things and is too prideful to acknowledge this and change. God says to love and EMBRACE the sinner, only then can they be turned to God, by shunning the sinner as Frollo does we do not grow God’s kingdom, we do not save more people before the end eventually comes. Frollo would have murdered baby Quasi if not for the priest being honest about Frollo’s sins. The priest actually helps the “wretches” like gypsies. That is how we should act, not like Frollo.

[@chrismayer3919]

That’s the problem with a LOT of beliefs; the have you face their side without hearing both sides of the story. I was born under the sign of Libra, (weighing this against that) and I know the scales NEVER have only one pendulum…

[@seasnaill2589]

And there do be a lot of Frollos running around today.

[@saskia3691]

Beautiful times when Disney was not afraid to have a villain in his movie who, because of his problems of being horny, sets the whole city on fire.

[@kristinahuchison2511]

FR. Honestly I feel Mother Gothel is very similar to Frollo in mindset, considering she treats Rapunzel the exact same way. Only she’s purely obsessed with her beauty and uses Raps. In comparison to Queen Grimhelda from Snow White, she uses witchcraft to get her own way, but I dig Frollo and Gothel don’t have powers but instead fear, manipulation and narcissism to achieve their goals, not realizing they’re destroying themselves unless they change

[@saskia3691]

@@kristinahuchison2511 Overall, Tangled is a very similar movie to The Hunchback of Notre Dame. We have an interesting young person locked in a high place (Quasimodo - Rapunzel), who is raised by an "adoptive" parent, main villain (Frollo - Gothel). This parent instills in child a fear of the world so that he/she does not leave his/her place. One day, however, this person breaks the rules, meets his/her love (Esmeralda - Flynn), whom the main villain wants to kill. The protagonist saves the object of love. We also have a funny white horse (Achilles - Maximus) and music by Alan Menken.

[@dr.mixer8930]

Do you guys think that belos is the morden frollo?

[@saskia3691]

@@dr.mixer8930 Bowser too

[@dr.mixer8930]

@@saskia3691 the religious part or the lust part?

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

The fact that there are people like Frollo is the reason why he’s one of the scariest villains ever.

[@hannahmetzger4880]

He reminds me _SO MUCH_ of Emperor Belos, it's uncanny. 😂.

[@Snaaaaap]

​@@hannahmetzger4880 that's because he's discount Frollo.

[@hannahmetzger4880]

@@Snaaaaap That's funny!! #DiscountFrollo!! Hahaha!! 😂!!!

[@fuzzymelon1261]

are instead of were is even scarier

[@fawfulfan]

And many of those real people, like Frollo, are judges.

[@owenwolfco.8344]

“Murderers are not monsters, they are men. And that is the most frightening thing about them” - Alice Sebold

[@kristinahuchison2511]

There’s another one called “Those who hunt down monsters, be careful, lest you become one” or something like that

[@Ashbrash1998]

I always like to say "the most scariest monsters are the ones we can't see, because they look just like us"

[@AuntLoopy123]

@@Ashbrash1998 I'm fond of: "What's your costume?" "I'm dressed as a homicidal maniac. They look just like everybody else."

[@cristianaguilar6064]

Alice sounds like an illogical and delusional person, considering there are many women murders

[@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n]

@@cristianaguilar6064 She meant mankind as a whole, not just men!

[@Sjono]

It’s a shame we can never get quality villains like this from Disney anymore

[@iclynnx]

I do admit it's been a while since we saw a truly villainous character, but we have gotten pretty solid antagonists (simply standing in the way of the protagonist's goal).

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

Yeah the last good Disney Villain was Mother gothel after her they became meh but atleast the movies were awesome but the villains meh

[@midnights2631]

I agree, the closet we got was Belos

[@Harbo_Minecraft_two]

"I'll let you stay here, I won't even make you pay rent."

[@421541Michee]

Now they get to show their true horrors in real life

[@Harleyxjokerforever]

As a Christian myself. Frollo really open eyes to what religion fanatic look like. To this day those high and mighty types drive me up the wall.

[@saskia3691]

I'm a Catholic and this movie has shaped me a lot about what to avoid in order not to become a Pharisee like Frollo.

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

@@saskia3691 Same here.

[@valutaatoaofunknownelement197]

​@@saskia3691 Another Catholic here. I always felt that if you take religion way too seriously or overtop, it will distance you from God more than it could have brought you closer to Him.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@valutaatoaofunknownelement197 Fun Fact: Disney confirmed that Frollo was inspired by Amon Göth from Schindler's List.

[@valutaatoaofunknownelement197]

To follow up: I mean this for people who use religion like Frollo, as an ends to a means or as a tool for exerting unjust power or control or tyranny under the guise of faith.

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Frollo is the perfect example of a religious fanatic, who will use religion and God as an excuse for doing terrible deeds, He literally has to lower others and make them look horrible so he can look like the holiest of them all

[@justice_of_Youtube]

That's not true 😂

[@nightmarefanatic1819]

Honestly, Frollo is more an example of someone who's cannot take accountability for his own evil to the point that he has the audacity to blame GOD for being the way he is.

[@yoyo777]

​@@justice_of_KZbin how is it not true?

[@justice_of_Youtube]

@@yoyo777 he doesn't lower others to make himself look great, he lowers them because that's how he sees them, low. The only time he ever lowered someone to make himself look great is during hellfire. And he never used religion to justify what he does, again only during hellfire. Throughout the whole movie he does what HE wants, not what he thinks God wants. See the difference between a religious man that is evil and commits evil because HE wants it and between a man who thinks it's right? Frollo is the first

[@joebrat6809]

I personally used to be friends with a devout Christian. He defended murderers and rapists and scammers (including idiots he introduced me to who threatened and stole money from me) but when I spoke my mind about certain countries governments for the atrocities they committed, he immediately stopped speaking to me. Hypocrisy at its finest. I do not think selling heroine, stabbing people, stealing or beating up women are considered 'men of god' they are servants of the devil and should be treated as such.

[@Aceofwolves]

"everything he does is understandable but not excusable" THIS is such a beautiful line as it can apply to EVERYONE.

[@graylykan2739]

According to producer Don Hann, Frollo was inspired by Ralph Fiennes' portrayal of Amon Göth, a real-life Nazi SS officer that served as the main antagonist in Schindler's List. I can see the similarities. Both are monsters in human flesh who want to rid the world of people they see as "inferior" (or "sin" in Frollo's case), and yet they end up lusting after a member of the very same group they want erased from existence, Helen Hirsch (Amon's Polish maid) and the Romani/Gypsy Esmeralda respectively. I wish Disney would make more villains like Frollo. He's such a terrifying antagonist because, despite his lack of supernatural powers and magic, he's still a human capable of committing atrocities and has many similarities to real people like Amon and other fanatics, people that use religion and God as an excuse to justify their hatred of what they deem to be "sin", all while ignoring that they themselves are the monsters that they project onto others.

[@Zivanovaable]

I also felt the similarity between the both villains.

[@R.444-]

actually considering ralph fiennes can sing, that wouldn’t be half bad casting for a hypothetical live action remake, not that I think the trend is good

[@augustinlaufer2546]

you're aware that the film is based on a book right ? "Notre Dame de Paris", written by Victor Hugo in 1831, in which Frollo is even worst than in the film ! He even kill Esmeralda by the end. Quasimodo is probably based on a hunchbacked stonecutter who worked at Notre-Dame in the 1820's, nicknamed "The Hunchbacked". Hugo and him even lived in the same place for a time.

[@graylykan2739]

@@augustinlaufer2546 Yeah, I know it was based on the book, though I never read it, and I heard the film does take some artistic liberties and strays from the original a bit. Yeah, I forgot Esmerelda died. Though, Frollo in the film was also inspired by Ralph Fiennes' portrayal of that SS German officer.

[@makototakara7025]

Whatever happened to Helen Hirsch?

[@TandaSandaBanda]

A long list of reasons why Frollo is my favorite Disney character (that I can think of): . His voice (pure ASMR; RIP Tony Jay). It’s like Frank Welker as Megatron or Mark Hamill as the Joker you literally cannot imagine anyone else voicing him because he was just that amazing . His song (not my most favorite Disney song but do I really need to explain?) . His giant silly hat (a nightmare for the animators) . His horse (who is named Snowball by the animators probably as revenge XD) . His sense of humor that you don’t expect him to have (as well as his demonic laugh when he thinks he has Esmeralda) . His perseverance (which can also be his weakness but yeah) . His “😐” face right before the angry face he makes that’s the thumbnail of this video . His existence taught me as a kid that not all elderly people are sweethearts-or “frail” (along with Carl from Up) because let’s face it he was in hella good shape for his age (must be from going up the cathedral stairs everyday) . His descent into madness was genuinely cathartic for me (and pretty similar to another villain I like-Azula-since they both become insane when they start to lose their control over others) . He was pretty much my first CCD teacher in regards to what NOT to do as a Catholic . Furthermore, he’s realistic (since there are plenty of malignant narcissists out there, religious or not) . His huge amount of screen time for a Disney Villain (13 minutes!!!!!) . He has no problem with literally getting his hands dirty/taking matters into his own hands (like Christ he crushed some ants with his bare fingers, set a house on fire with a child and baby inside, and went totally ax-crazy at the climax) . He had power but actually knew how to maintain it (sorry Scar) . Now, despite having so much power over Paris akin to a king, he is still a very diligent person. For all his complaining, he still goes to the festival (and so that diligence backfires on him) 😂 . His creepy smile rivals that of the Joker (wait, it’s the Middle Ages/Renaissance. WHY ARE HIS TEETH SO WHITE AND NICE???) Update: Below comment explained that. Thank you. . He’s able to stand right up again after falling off his horse (which can kill or seriously injure you especially at his age) . Crazy, foolish and evil as he is, Frollo never got upset at his horse for getting startled by Esmeralda (and keep in mind he didn’t know that it was her that caused it). C’mon, I bet we all didn’t expect him to yell “And don’t hit my horse!”. Granted, that purebred Friesian probably cost a lot. . He’s strong enough to cut a gargoyle off of the cathedral with his sword (although idk how old that thing was), break all of Quasimodo’s wooden stuff, and hold onto his cape while hanging off the cathedral (seriously why does he have better upper arm strength than me) . He’s unapologetic and delusional to the point of it being entertaining . He’s able to creep out Phoebus (a war veteran) with ease . If he were with other Disney Villains, he’d genuinely be confused as to why he’s considered a Villain . He’ll always find a reason to hate you, and that’s another form of dedication from him . All of the ironies about his character . He was right about a FEW things (“The world is cruel.”) . Throughout the movie, he experiences several comeuppances (or warnings) before his ultimate demise, with the most obvious being having to raise Quasimodo. In other words, he doesn’t always get away with stuff and that fuels our satisfaction with him receiving his daily dose of karma. These moments (like falling off of Snowball) are like appetizers before the main course . He doesn’t need an intricate emotional backstory or whatever in order to be a compelling Villain. He’s a medieval zealot who let power get into his head. That’s it. It’s why people love Jack Horner from Puss in Boots.

[@ThornFeyVT]

YES! I couldn't have said it better myself if I was writing an essay on him

[@IronycheinPain]

I love how half of these reasons is just Frollo having the strength of a young muscle man

[@TandaSandaBanda]

@@IronycheinPain I didn’t even mention his FAST reaction time (when his guards accidentally almost took his head off with a pole at the festival) or how good his hearing his (remember when he said “Nor would I!” in response to Phoebus even though he was all the way across the Court of Miracles??????). This guy was was a force to be reckoned with and might actually be able to kick Phoebus’ ass, or at least put up a hell of a fight (remember, Esmeralda brought him down in one pull, but she could definitely kick Frollo’s ass if they were both completely alone).

[@neolithiumproduction]

"If he were with other Disney Villains, he’d genuinely be confused as to why he’s considered a Villain" Perfectly true. 🤣

[@IronycheinPain]

@@TandaSandaBanda Follow having the best health seems very wrong, but also right whE E Z E

[@jellojam1722]

Fun Fact!! The actual reason for why Frollo is seen without his hat at the final scenes of the movie, according to his lead animator, because the shape of his hat was frustrating to keep track of! In an interview it was said that the animation team was searching for ways to get rid of it at some point, and when they finally managed to there was a HUGE relief within the team. "Finally that stupid hat is gone!" 🤣🤣🤣

[@ToppyDreemurr]

It's honestly scary to think about people like Frollo exist in the real world. You'd never see a dark fairy with powers to curse people to sleep eternally in reality, you'd never see a sea witch who makes shady deals with merpeople in reality, you'd never see a sorcerer with the powers of a genie in reality, but you certainly can see people in reality who are like Frollo who are entirely self righteous, thinking they're the only one who's perfect aside from others, and using religion and God to justify atrocious actions. But that's exactly what makes him one of the best Disney villains and the scariest

[@BrokensoulRider]

Hell, a bunch of Frollos are in charge of Congress right now.

[@אנונימי222]

absolutely right... however unlike him, in reality many of them manage to escape justice, manipulate the law and sometimes also make the victim look bad in the story. But in the end, like Frollo they end up in hell, where they can no longer manipulate anyone.

[@merakimelodies8931]

Hello! You made a great point that I could not agree more with! Totally: it’s also probably like the number-one reason Christianity gets such a bad rep. among folks-charlatans and/or corrupt people getting into positions of power over others (or trying to), which Christianity was never supposed to be, and then using that to try to gain their own, selfish goals at the expense of the people they were suppose to guide and be kind to, even when people are flawed and make mistakes. The holier-than-thou mentality is kind’a what wiped out Christianity’s influence in Western-Civilization, I believe (evolution could be part of that, but honestly, Christian apologetics and simple cause-and-effect messes up evolution well-enough, if one looks into it at-all: it’s simply not popular or talked about much in public or universities, because it challenges the secular narrative). Ultimately, Christians may want to blame macro-evolutionary-theory (I mean, even Christians believe in micro-evolution strongly, usually) or corrupt-government or the Internet for the faith’s decline, but the true fall of it in the West was hypocrisy, corruption, and holier-than-thou attitudes. The true core of Christianity (as found in the Bible) is that we’re ALL sinful, and that any sin (even the most insignificant peccadillo) is too much to enter Heaven, because God made us to be morally like Him (perfect), but man made a willing choice to depart from that in the beginning, and embraced being inherently-sinful after God gave man every possible advantage and a good life in a perfect world-as a result, the Fall occurred, corrupting the world we live in and separating man from being able to have a positive relationship with God, because imperfection to God is cosmic-treason deserving of eternal punishment, even if seemingly-small to us sinful-mortals. This sounds like bad news, because it is, but that’s not where it ends, fortunately: God did not want to be separated from man, despite man making that choice, and still loved mankind deeply-that’s why He lived a perfect life in human-form, sacrificed Himself on the cross on our behalf to cover our sins, and said, “You don’t have to do anything now or be perfect, because that’s not possible for you, and I know it: I’ve paid your penalty, and it applies to you, if you will simply admit it and accept it.”, to paraphrase the gospel (the good news). If we confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in our heart that God has raised Him from the dead (because God is a Trinity, three people in one essence: admittedly a concept we cannot grasp, but which no one could make up), we will be saved and receive eternal-life in Heaven, with God. Our works cannot save us, they can only condemn us, when it comes to salvation: it is Jesus’s goodness alone that we must count on for salvation. Beneath the issue of salvation, we should still do good out of gratitude to God, out of bettering ourselves and our own life, and out of a desire to help others, but it is Jesus Who saves. The message of the Bible may seem like hellfire-and-brimstone up-front, but it’s truly a story of redemption and a gift that is free to us but bought at a precious and painful price by Another, Who, simply, loves us that much. Every other religion says, “You must do this or that to reach Heaven.”, or denies that anything is real, essentially-Christianity is the only religion that says, “It’s already done: just accept my free gift-that’s the most real thing there is.”. It’s not too good to be true, but too good to not be true. :)

[@aga48584]

My favorite villain because he's human. He doesn't need magic to do terrible things, and at the same time he is one of the few villains of that era who can have a conscience and a sense of guilt. He murders people because he believes he is doing it for the "greater good". But he also has his weaknesses and desires. This villain represents the people we may meet on our way. Each of us can fall victim to a parent who humiliates us. Each of us can fall victim to a judge who gives an unjust verdict. Any of us can be harassed. Each of us can be a victim of discrimination. But even more interesting, unfortunately, is that even we ourselves can easily become someone like him.

[@tysondennis1016]

The only monsters in this world are human monsters.

[@tbrighton8531]

How the hell did Disney go to making movies like this to now

[@balanc-joy9187]

Different people running it, and different motivations for what they're doing and how they do it.

[@WeirdMobileGamer9990]

They went from great original stories to badly recycling their own stories again and again. Kinda sad

[@kristinahuchison2511]

Because Disney is too woke and is too “kid friendly” legit notice that the Disney princes/male protagonists don’t show skin anymore after David from Lilo and Stitch I believe, when the Renaissance era had no qualms letting dudes like Aladdin, John Smith, Tarzan and Shang showing shirtless scenes. I’m getting sick of the stupid “tragic villain” or victimizing the villain trope going on. Some people are just bad and don’t need an explanation to why they act that way. Honestly Disney has devolved and Walt is rolling in his grave about how greedy it has become. Some of his most famous projects like Sleeping Beauty were duds at the time. And now it has become nothing more than a capitalist giant that is milking franchises like Frozen and Toy Story purely to make up for how awful and hated their latest projects have been

[@iclynnx]

​@@kristinahuchison2511... Moana. Have you seen it? The men are shirtless, and Moana herself has a short dress with bare arms. Because you know, it's a warm climate. That was like, in 2016 or something. You're making up that problem.

[@iclynnx]

​@@kristinahuchison2511Also I wouldn't call Disney all kid-friendly. Encanto deals with some heavy themes, that many struggle with and have trauma from. Yes, Abuela is that sympathetic antagonist that you're complaining of, but I think she was done alright, and can be expanded on in a series, like they did with Tangled. It's okay to admit that adults who hurt their families have been through crap themselves and are damaged. Abuela had to realize that and learn from it, and it's implied and briefly shown she does. Having no empathy at all for humans who can hurt you isn't gonna change them. And in Turning Red, sure it was more Pixar, but that one also deals with it, and even talks about puberty, showing the messiness of emotions, the struggle of responsibilites and not just that girls will grow up and be "babymaking machines".

[@youngkc866]

I see alot of similarity between Frollo and Rameses in Prince of Egypt, although where Frollo is truly irredeemable Rameses is more of a tragic figure who gradually devolves into his father to the point where he's finally ready to finish the genocide his father had started only this time having them be legitimately scapegoated for the Plagues and the death of the first born sons rather than it just being a precautionary measure. There's also The Plagues song vs. Heaven's Light/Hellfire where both the protagonist and antagonist are singing about the same thing but from different perspective where Rameses its just about stubborness and Frollo its about lust, but in both cases pride and racism figure into their reasoning. There's WAY more similarities I could go into between those two movies but that's for another post and I don't have that much time in a day lol

[@madeleinedartois4689]

Oh, please, do ! I would love to read this essay.

[@saskia3691]

The Hunchback of Notre Dame is my Disney animation (not The Lion King or Frozen), and The Prince of Egypt is my favorite DreamWorks animation (not Shrek or Madagascar). Reason? Both adapt adult material for children's cinema, but at the same time they are still family films. Overzealous parents complain that these aren't movies for kids, but that's bullshit. These two animations simply do not treat the child viewer like an idiot. Of course, children should know in an appropriate way that the world can be cruel, etc. and both of these animations still show that good wins.

[@madeleinedartois4689]

@@saskia3691 Oh, the Lion King is quite an eloquent testament of how cruel the world is. Simba's arc and dilemma, certain he is responsible for his father's death, feeling all the more guilty that he spent his childhood wishing to be king, was really moving. Same for Frozen, where Elsa is also plagued by the guilt of hurting people by merely existing. But Prince of Egypt develops the relationship between the protagonist and the deuteragonist/antagonist that tears the viewer apart, since both of them are so relatable. Both of them love each other but are chained to their respective duties, and it ends up destroying both parties.

[@saskia3691]

@@madeleinedartois4689 I love The Lion King, it's my third favorite movie (my top 3 rankings are The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Mulan and The Lion King). Frozen is overrated for me. Sure, the character of Elsa is identifiable even for me, because I have neurosis and I never know when I will explode, but Hans as a villain is a joke.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@madeleinedartois4689 Fun Fact: Disney confirmed that Frollo was inspired by Amon Göth from Schindler's List.

[@yarbi4791]

he gave me nightmares for 5 years…still my favourite villian i love how he is the scariest disney villian but he doesn’t use witchcraft or any fancy things, he’s just a man. HES JUST SO WELL WRITTEN

[@angelinacamacho8575]

My grandma loved this movie because of how it portrayed how some twist religion to fit their own sick thoughts. She also said how Quasimodo was one of the most beautiful Disney characters she has seen because he is very selfless and has lots of insight despite how frolo raised. Him and how kind he was to Esmeralda despite what he was taught about gypsys. She then said Gaston was the ugliest character she has ever seen because to him belle is a trophy and how full of himself he is. When I was 8 i got to go to notredam and see the cathedral and courtyard and it surprised me how accurate in terms of detail Disney was when animating it. Frolo low-key is my favorite villain because he doesn't lie about how evil he is he is just true to himself and his beliefs.

[@tysondennis1016]

Quasimodo is a beautiful man

[@FirstnameLastname-zq8oy]

?? Your last sentence makes no sense, Frollo is a unique disney villain precisely because he's the only disney villain who lies to himself about how evil he is. The other disney villains know how evil they are and they dont care, however Frollo has convinced himself that he's a good and pure man. Frollo is not true to himself and his beliefs at all, he's a massive hypocrtie because his actions throughout the movie directly contradict the word of god.

[@angelinacamacho8575]

@@FirstnameLastname-zq8oy the last bit of the comment was more about how looks can be decieving. here looks are deciveing because the movie uses religion as a main focal point and how religion can seem nice but can hide some evils. this whole movie though clearly shows how some religious people use religion for their own gain and how some use it to justify their actions. frolo saw himself as a holy man and a man of god so in his eyes he can do no wrong because he is an arch bishop (i think thats how its spelled) and in his eyes is closer to god than everyone else in the movie. he was not a hypocrite so much as he saw himself as someone who has the power to cleanse the world from people who are seen as lesser in his eyes. he twisted catholisism to suit his own needs.

[@benderthepirate]

Frollo is proof that a villain can be pure evil and complex at the same time. Those terms are seen as mutually exclusive or even incompatible, but that’s not always the case. It can be done, but it is very hard to pull off. Further proof of this movie’s genius.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

Definitely one of my favorite Disney villains. Powerful, vulnerable, and most importantly: memorable.

[@joshualowe959]

Frollo is the darkest & rarest villain. Villains like Scar, Gaston & Mother Gothel only had parts of Frollo in them. Other Disney villains know what they do is wrong. Frollo believed everything he did was right

[@kristinahuchison2511]

I would argue Governor Ratcliffe from Pocahontas. I know he’s definitely one of the worst villains unfortunately, as I personally love the movie. But Ratcliffe truly believed Pocahontas’s people were nothing but bloodthirsty barbarians who needed to be exterminated. Like he showed absolutely no remorse for accidentally shooting John Smith either because “He stepped into it” and even threatened to hang all of his men when they arrested him. Even in the sequel when Pocahontas is forced to confront him multiple times, he absolutely despises her simply because she’s a native, even as a civilized lady he even sneers at her for so quickly moving on from John Smith. He refused to admit the natives weren’t what he thought, and saw them as rodents and vermin. Like even when the king arrested him in the end, he was trying to convince him he was making a mistake by trusting and respecting Pocahontas’s wishes. John was willing to accept he was the savage one and learn from his mistakes, while Ratcliffe stubbornly refused.

[@joshualowe959]

@@kristinahuchison2511 well Frollo saw Quasimodo as an ugly monster & saw Esmeralda & her gypsy people as ants & vermin to the city of Paris. He saw them all as not only threats to him, but as threats to all of Paris. Ratcliffe was racist like Frollo, but unlike Ratcliffe, Frollo committed genocide by burning people alive & tried to burn Esmeralda as well

[@thirty_ish2890]

People who believe that their evil is actually good and that what they are doing is the right thing and in the name of God are fucking horrifying people and unfortunately America is full of these ppl.

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

Well so did Scar he never had blame even once if they talked about Mufasa he's so angry that he would murder them if you would mention that name it could have been you're death it's like a we don't talk about Bruno scenario but worse

[@joshualowe959]

@@Simbala-bq5vyI will never forget how Scar hit Sarabi after she mentioned Mufasa to him. However Scar is just another typical villain on a quest for power. Frollo on the other hand was in power from the very beginning of Hunchback of Notre Dame.

[@callumhaigh8233]

The moment before Frollo dies when he stares at the gargoyle and it roars at him, it’s almost as if God himself is judging him for his actions and showing him his soul. When Frollo screams before he falls, it is from fear but a fear of what he has become. He has seen himself for what he is and he is truly scared of what he’s done. But it’s too late for repentance. He has sealed his fate.

[@starstorm1267]

Gargoyles were made to scare demons away. So the fact that the gargoyle “came to life” moments before frollo’s death and scared him confirmed that his soul had now become fully corrupted and was casted to Hell for his sins

[@USSFFRU]

God gives second chances, but He does not give a third chance if the second was rejected.

[@joyfulyes]

I was taught that God gave many chances up until death. That's part of the appeal of Christianity for many, I think. ​@@USSFFRU

[@SailorSabol]

As a catholic convert, I’m glad this movie shined a light on not being able to trust someone just because they claim a religious high ground. I’ve never personally encountered a single bad priest, but I’ve come across MANY Catholics, especially catholic men, who will use their faith as a rouse to make you feel safe around them so that they could take advantage of the situation. Many people pretending to be holy to excuse things. We’re all hypocrites, but there are a lot of bad people who are trying to hide it with religion. Everyone is a sinner, but like we say “through my fault, through my own fault, through my own most grievous fault” it’s whether or not you can admit that that shows the most

[@Nightout88]

i really like frolo for one main reason. "villain's are not meant to be cool" you can feel sorry for them, pity them, or even enjoy watching them do their thing, but at the end of the day they are still very much evil. not because they want to be [in most cases] but because they have a goal or plan that others wouldn't agree with. far to often i see people online thinking "having evil powers" or "being a villian would be cool", it's not its ostracizing and people don't tend to want to hang around people who are abusive, manipulative, or display some sort of evil trait. villainy isn't cool and tends to lead into your own death. villain's don't win because evil never prospers. They either get redeemed [in which case they aren't villain's any more] or they die a horrible death often by their own making [like clayton's hanging or frolo drop into hell]. and i really appreciate that they tried to make a villian that you can see what he's doing and even have people who identify with it, but is still horrible. like their are ACTUALLY people like that in the real world one of them started ww2 and ended his own life like the villain/fascist he was.

[@randoontheinternet5842]

Personally I’m okay with cool villains but I agree that this wave of people idolizing them is ridiculous, If you find characters like the Joker to be the heroes than you seriously need help The only villains I can genuinely root for are anti-villains which are pretty much just like the good guys but fighting for a different cause

[@ArsenicPoisoning69]

I like picking up coins on the ground therefore I doomed myself

[@ravengrey6874]

....Holy S*** I just realized that Frollo is the *perfect* representation of modern Disney An organization that touts its moral purity to justify its actions, regardless of effect, and its wealth and authority, which it wields like a flail on any person or group that doesn't meet its arbitrary standards (basically everyone).

[@kingdomcome3914]

So...like any other self-righteous, holier-than-thou asshole?

[@Astr0iceDrag0n]

Frollo was such a memorable villain that Disney became just like him 😅

[@callumdrage5889]

I’m waiting for Disney to make Frollo a mis-understood anti-hero who respects Quasimodo’s wishes in the remake

[@saskia3691]

Theoretically, it would be closer to the book that the animation was inspired by. In the book, Frollo is a priest and he is actually a tragic character. His parents died of illness and he was left alone with a brother. He treats Quasimodo well, has no genocidal inclinations, and it is Esmeralda's lust that corrupts him morally. Personally, it's hard for me to say which Frollo I like more, the one from the book or the one from the animation. They are both similar and different. It's kind of like wondering if I like Darth Vader or Darth Sidious more.

[@Koopalingfan]

@@saskia3691 Agree.

[@Arushi701]

@@saskia3691 I'll say he is still pretty much as evil as he's in the film, just not as visibly so. He tries to abduct and rape Esmeralda, who's barely 16, frames her for murder and still calls her pitiless for not loving him. His regret after hanging her is that her legs were visible to the crowd. He shares the lack of accountability and manipulation from the film. It’s even disturbing, as we know that he is capable of compassion, but is choosing not to do it. Also given the book was written in the 1830s, a clergyman being arrogant and wanting to practice sorcery was Hugo calling him enough evil.

[@Alucardsspouse]

LMAO

[@davidjackson6475]

Tony was so perfect for the role they just had him speak. No voice altering required.

[@shadeblackwolf1508]

Good callout that god offered him a window. A chance to walk away

[@blackheart2728]

"And he shall smite the wicked and plunge them into the firey pit" ~ Judge Claude Frollo seconds before the lord smote the wicked and plunged him into the firey pit.

[@allibug2568]

Frollo is also my favorite Disney Villain. I used to be Mormon when I was little. Not all of them are bad, but there were corrupted members of my church who would force their beliefs onto others. My older brother, who was only 16, was manipulated into believing he was an alcoholic and a troubled teen, even though he never touched alcohol in his life during that time. Not to mention, he was also on the autism spectrum. Years later, we’ve heard news that one of the members of our church was arrested for stealing people’s property. I guess that’s why I can relate to this movie

[@MovieEnforcer]

Did you know that Esmeralda was going to kill Judge Frollo in Disney’s Hunchback of Notre Dame? They scrapped because they didn’t want to get a PG-13 rating. You’ll find it on the IMBD trivia for Disney’s Hunchback of Notre Dame. “The filmmakers briefly considered having Quasimodo killed off, since that is his fate in the original novel. He was originally supposed to be stabbed by Frollo, then Esmeralda regains consciousness and tries to save him by killing Frollo. Phoebus was then supposed to meet up with them, and Quasimodo's last wish was to ring the bells one last time. They take him to the bells, then Esmeralda and Phoebus help him ring the bells as he dies. The final shot was going to include Esmeralda and Phoebus crying over their best friend as the people of Paris cheer for their success, unaware of Quasimodo's death. Luckily, this is not the ending that was used because even hardcore fans of the novel agree that the ending they used instead was a more suitable conclusion for the theme of this film” - IMDB Trivia. “The filmmakers originally wanted Esmeralda to kill Frollo in order to save Quasimodo. Esmeralda would've jumped onto the ledge then grabbed Quasimodo's hand. Frollo would've attempted to kill Quasimodo with his sword, then Esmeralda would've kicked Frollo off the cathedral, causing Frollo to fall to his death. This idea was ultimately abandoned, as having a heroine kill the villain was considered improper in a family film, and may have gotten the film a PG-13 rating” - IMDB Trivia.

[@kurisari1937]

“Improper” As if the scene of Frollo groping Esme in the church was proper 😂 They had some weird reasoning. I would’ve loved to see Esme kill Frollo herself, even as a deleted scene. I like the ending they chose for its irony, but an extra scene with their scrapped idea would’ve been awesome.

[@MovieEnforcer]

@@kurisari1937 honestly if Disney ever does a live action remake they should make it PG-13 and use one of these endings.

[@fallengabrielle5185]

esmeralda also dies in the original novel. she is hanged after she finally met her birth mother from which she was taken away as a baby by the romani people.

[@Alpha-zx4js]

Just like everyone said no Disney will ever before or will ever again make a other villain one like him.

[@Quasarel]

That sentence didn't make sense at all...

[@mistyknoxwall9051]

@@Quasarel "Just like everyone said, Disney will never make another villain like him again."

[@Alpha-zx4js]

@@mistyknoxwall9051 Thanks

[@mistyknoxwall9051]

@@Alpha-zx4js You're welcome! :D

[@elizabethweigle6146]

17:50 I also love how in this part of the scene, the sheer force of Quasi pulling against his chains causes the bells to all vibrate, and to me it sounds like a war cry from the very church itself. The church is cheering on Quasi for fighting against Frollo, who has corrupted and twisted everything good about the church that the bells sing for. The building itself is rebelling against Frollo. Ugh this entire movie is a masterpiece and I love it 😭💜

[@ChloeCrismon]

When you said Frollo would kill the other villains my jaw dropped. You are so right. Probably the only villain that would survive around him would be Gaston because he tried to kill someone supernatural. Gaston is someone who wants to get ahead like Frollo but would possibly see how messed up Frollo is and not morn his death, may even try to have him put away for old age or kill him discreetly. That is if Frollo didn’t kill him first. It’s like a twisted Master and Apprentice relationship. It’s also fitting they’re both from France so they could cross paths theoretically.

[@hazakurasuyama9016]

Maybe mother Gothel too considering Flynn was a criminal that she tried to kill, plus they have similar parenting methods

[@andrewcalebgorospe2754]

"understandable but not excusable" the hallmark of truly legendary villains.

[@buccaneercat]

Disney truly was a masterclass in Music and Storytelling from the late 80s - early 2000s! It may be controversial to say but I believe the most powerful and moving soundtracks to come from Disney’s Renaissance are Beauty and The Beast, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Pocahontas, and Tarzan. The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, The Lion King, Hercules, Mulan, and The Rescuers Down Under all had damn perfect soundtracks. But for whatever reason, to me, they didn’t pack as much of an emotional wallop as the 4 I had mentioned before… because they were more iconic, more lively and upbeat. Sadly I don’t think we’ll ever have another renaissance, at least any time soon with how things are going at Disney currently… but I can always dream of the day 2D animation is welcomed back, emotionally driving orchestral music is reimplemented, and writers/directors that just want to tell a good strong story for all audiences to enjoy gain the reins of future releases. On that day, I’d be very happy indeed.

[@epache315]

R.I.P. Tony Jay (1933-2006) Voice Of Judge Frollo from Disney's The Hunchback Of Notre Dame an amazing and chilling performance singing Hellfire Judge Frollo He's Evil One of The best and most Darkest Disney Villains Ever Judge Frollo He's Really Special and Tony Jay's Voice Was a part of it. ❤️🖤💜🔥🔥😭😭😭😭😭😢😢😢😢😭😭

[@desmondjordan8289]

WHY...the emojis? Why would you do that?

[@Ze_N00B]

A villain doesn't have to be relatable to have good motivation. As long as they themselves believe what they're doing is just, that's enough.

[@sxftpixie]

he’s basically the og mother gothel, except he’s way creepier. seeing him around esmerelda in the movie revolted me and i honestly hate him, and that’s the exact reason he’s my fav disney villain by far. there are men like him and it’s horrible. love it

[@orangeslash1667]

Fun Fact: Disney confirmed that Frollo was inspired by Amon Göth from Schindler's List.

[@tanishambrowne1137]

Man i miss days of Disney villians especially how dark they were Frollo is perfect example being one of best villians theres no tragic backstory he's sadist i haven't seen them topped him ever since.

[@FuzzyKittenBoots]

I actually like his original not exactly tragic but pretty sympathetic backstory. I don't think Disney should have done him any differently because I LOVE the chase at the start it's amazing. But in the book it made Frollo much more interesting when he comes across a toddler aged Quasimodo abandoned on a bench and is going to leave him there but then he starts thinking about his little brother for whom he is the only parent for since their parent's death and he changes his mind. He takes in and raises this very visibly disabled possibly 'gypsy' child not because someone tells him to, not because he fears God but because imagining his little brother abandoned like that pains him. Frollo is shown to not only be able to empathize but also be motivated by that empathy in how he chooses to act.

[@kristinahuchison2511]

Personally I find the Hunchback of Notre Dame a very underrated Disney movie, considering its Disney’s most dark and mature film. I adore Esmerelda and really wish she was a Disney princess because she is a lot better than ones like Aurora who literally don’t do anything except sleep and get rescued in their movie. I honestly think this movie has one of the best soundtracks ever, minus that cringy love song Guy Like You, because of how powerful songs like Bells of Notre Dame are. I really dig how Heaven’s Light and Hellfire are technically the same song, but more like twins, they’re complete opposites contrasting how Quasi and Frollo see Esmerelda, and ultimately why Esmerelda falls for Phoebus instead, he sees and treats her as a normal person, not a divine angel or a sexy witch. Anyways, you perfectly described how deep and corrupt Frollo’s actions are, and I dig the worst part of it is he’s literally using God as a shield or excuse for his crimes, which is sadly real for cases like Charles Manson cult. They take God’s teachings and twist it into what they want, which is exactly why the apostle Paul warns in several books about false teachers or prophets. Like any sanity Frollo had left snapped like a toothpick when he couldn’t stop thinking of Esmerelda’s body, especially the part she’s dancing in the flames. That scene specifically had to be re-edited because apparently some thought she wasn’t wearing clothes, which is entirely the point of the scene. All he sees is someone he deems a devil, but cannot stop thinking about how sexy she is and you get the rest. So he chooses to only spare her if she promises to be his forever, and if not, he will send her to hell. Like the person he sees as a devil is actually an angel, while he’s the complete opposite. I actually didn’t realize the part his hat flies off in the end is where the very last bit of humanity in him has snapped as Quasi, a man he has completely hated his entire life, took the one thing he desires, making him enraged and possessed by his carnal desires that he disrespects Notre Dame itself and throws the archdeacon out of his way, proving he is basically throwing God to the side and hence sealing his fate doomed in the pit of fire. As for the last scene with the gargoyle, I get Quasi’s friends do come alive around Madeline and Jolly, but personally I felt maybe it was divine intervention and God was showing what was in his heart, a demon that destroyed himself by refusing to admit to his sins, which is something you must do in order to be saved, admit you are a sinner and repent. While Frollo views himself as a holy warrior and refuses to admit to his sins or repent, hence going to hell. It doesn’t matter if he was baptized or whatever, he did not live by the virtues of the Church, and broke every commandment and refused to admit them, instead blaming it all on God, hence he was never a child of God. Overall, its really disappointing to see how underrated Frollo and the movie is, considering how beautifully it explains more mature topics, and what can happen if you refuse to accept them. The sequel is a huge embarrassment and honestly an insult to how dark the original movie was, like the villain himself is easily one of the worst villains in animation because he is a clown in comparison to a “dark angel”

[@iclynnx]

I don't know about Esmeralda falling for Phoebus because he "sees her as a normal person". I remember he very clearly was attracted to her, calling her amazing or something, after seeing her dance or move. I feel like they barely knew eachother. Quasimodo doesn't have to be Esmeralda's choice, but between him and Phoebus, I think Quasi has more charisma with her and he appreciates her kindness, her personality, first. It also feels kind of wrong, implying that Quasi wasn't strong and handsome enough. It's always the able-bodied, lean people that get love. Quasi may be the hero of the movie, but no, he can't be the one to get the girl. How will they have children?? Because obviously that's the only thing a woman can do in a relationship...

[@BrokensoulRider]

@@iclynnx You also have to look at it from this: Women do, instinctively, look for men that look strong and capable and able to pass those genetics to the next generation. Quasi, sadly, does not provide those instinctive needs though I personally would agree with you that Quasimodo is the better option of the two. Especially with how he nods, smiles, and moves on as if nothing happened at all despite his heart breaking from knowing that he will 'never get the girl'. His infatuation, also, was unrequited. She never liked him that way; she pitied him, she thought he would like to have a friend. She's the first girl he's been around. Literally puppy love.

[@iclynnx]

@@BrokensoulRider We're not animals. We look for emotional connection, openness, not pure strenght. Plenty of women love a friendly chubby man, even disabled / wheelchair-bound men. Pheromones also play a role. We can subconsciously be drawn to another's scent.

[@BrokensoulRider]

@@iclynnx ACtually, we are. To say we're not animals downplays the fact that we literally have two differences between the rest of animals on this planet and us: higher thought processing and thumbs.

[@iclynnx]

@@BrokensoulRider Thumbs? Monkeys have thumbs. And dolphins and birds are incredibly intelligent too. Anyway, yes, we are technically animals, but you missed my point. We choose partner based on more than "man strong, man make good babies". Even monkeys can prefer a male that treats them well over one who is a brute.

[@matneptune]

Let's never forget that his last words literally happen to him seconds later.

[@QuentrixMovies]

Awesome design, awesome voice, awesome character, awesome song and awesome death. Just a perfect Disney villain 💯

[@80sdreamwave32]

Frollo had one best villian song ever

[@lewisjohnston7077]

Hell fire

[@knellycornnan5132]

About the gargoyles, the hallucinations, and the inexplicable amount of molten lava. There is an in world explanation for all of this. All of these are explained because this story is being told by Clopin to kids. The gargoyles and other magical stuff is simply to make the story more interesting for the kids.

[@kristinahuchison2511]

The gargoyles do come alive the goat and Madeline. And Hugo even uses his mouth as a machine gun for guards trying to climb the cathedral.

[@knellycornnan5132]

@@kristinahuchison2511 I am just going to pretend that movie is non canon. The gargoyles are already annoying as is, but having them be a fake addition added to a story for kids makes their existence in the first movie feel more justified.

[@kristinahuchison2511]

@@knellycornnan5132 also, the “lava” is actually molten copper. It was made to fix damaged bells, with how many times they got rang during the day. Yes, the gargoyles are basically an eyesore in the movie. They’re similar to Olaf in Frozen tbh

[@knellycornnan5132]

@@kristinahuchison2511 The sheer amount of it though. There is no way they would have had enough to make huge waterfalls like that.

[@kristinahuchison2511]

@@knellycornnan5132 I mean, its a Disney movie lol. Nothing makes logical sense in most of their movies

[@Irken_Invader_Zim]

the scariest thing about Frodo, He isn't a monster, a demon, a dragon, a alien or even an magical evil being... he's a regular human being and yet despite being just a normal human... he has commited one of the most fucked up atrocities than any villain OG Disney ever did....

[@USSFFRU]

"It's not my fault! If in God's plan... He made the Devil so much stronger than man!" The only line that was so fucking hard it broke the First Commandment so cleanly

[@d1kgaws12]

I find the part where Tony Jay says that Frollo was meant to be 3D ironic, mainly due to how he still got accepted in the P U R E E V I L wiki.

[@Cyber_chelle]

He’s so revered that when they remake worlds with the Disney villains he’s excluded even tho he’s so iconic! I’m guessing they don’t want to step on any of the irl Frolo’s toes which is the real scary thing Is that he exists in real life.

[@mysticmoth1111]

Watching this it dawned on me that the negative reaction to "Hellfire" was probably mostly driven by people who saw themselves in Frollo and couldn't handle it.

[@tomnorton4277]

I can see part of myself in Frollo and Hellfire's my favourite Disney song of all time. I think it's because it's such an honest portrayal of what an obsession is like.

[@thomasbaron5367]

Quasimodo's heart was just too pure Even when Frollo fell from the balcony, Quasimodo was still trying to hold onto him and and save him

[@huldrrrr9486]

Another little glimse of humanity from Frollo I find interesting: according to the creators his horse's name is Snowball. Judge Claude Frollo named his fearsome, black steed Snowball

[@noctyd9322]

Fantastic coverage of a well written villain! I probably saw this once as a child and wasn't able to pick up on 95% of what went into it. Much appreciated video

[@I_am_ENSanity]

Hellfire is still my favorite Disney song ever.

[@Mrdragonjack]

this movie is masterfully crafted, I saw half of the video, saw the movie again, fell in damn awe, and came back to see the rest of the video, falling in awe again, damn I miss old Disney

[@Rainjojo]

No Disney villain will ever top this twisted one, modern Disney is too much of a wuss to take risk

[@SeasideDetective2]

Tony Jay was also the voice of the head of the insane asylum in BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, and of Shere Khan in "TaleSpin." A really standout Disney voice talent, better even than Jim Cummings, Tress MacNeill, or Rob Paulsen. Ironically, while Frollo is the most evil Disney villain, he's also the most tragic Disney villain. Unlike the other villains, Frollo doesn't WANT to be evil. He fears going to hell after he dies, and does everything (he thinks) will get him to heaven. But it's probably safe to say he goes to hell anyway, both for attempted murder and for his fantasies of rape. There's a very sad irony to that. One thing that never seems to be mentioned about this movie, however, is that Esmeralda never gets shamed for her behavior by anyone except Frollo. I can't help thinking that, if she'd appeared in a Disney movie at any time before about 1980, she'd be a villain herself, or at least an unpleasant comic-relief character. I realize it's inappropriate to say anything to besmirch Esmeralda, who is the moral heart of this movie. But, without intending to invoke the "She was asking for it!" rape defense, I will say that Esmeralda was the one who caused Frollo to experience the "Hellfire" guilt - and not innocently, but deliberately. You can see in this very video that she snuggled up to him at the festival while wearing her exotic costume, even though she must have known it would make him uncomfortable. If a man had done that to a woman, we would all be outraged. You could argue, "Oh, she's just an entertainer! It's all in good fun!" But there are limits to performance art, and there comes a point where it stops being funny. It doesn't help, either, that Esmeralda is voiced by Demi Moore, an actress who was getting villainess or temptress roles at this point in her career.

[@angelicafigueroa0221]

I mean he had the looks, the cunning, the poetic downfall and that voice, top dark Disney daddy material for sure

[@jamesa.romano8500]

I feel like for all the emphasis on diversity and inclusion we now see from Disney, Hunchback pretty neatly broke down racism in such a way for kids - such as myself at the time - to understand it without being heavy-handed. Pocahontas was a dry run but was basically Disney's attempt at a white savior-style Dances With Wolves story, while the whole Romani/Gypsy thing is more complex in that the white Parisians and Romani have already been coexisting for a long time (as opposed to the "new world" thing from Pocahontas) and while most of the Parisians are mildly racist or prejudiced against them, they don't share Frollo's homicidal goal to purge them all out of existence, and the men present at the festival have no problem gladly objectifying Esmeralda when she basically does a G-rated strip tease. But you see at NO point during the film is Esmeralda ever shamed or victim blamed for being open about her sexuality, and the responsibility is not only entirely placed on Frollo, but we are made to see him project that blame onto her to rationalize his lust - which is not only reflective of how women of color have historically been objectified and blamed for being assaulted or harassed but men of color as well (Carolyn Bryant lying on Emmett Till and getting him killed to assuage her own racial insecurities comes to mind). That the actual real life genocide of the Romani people during WWII is still downplayed or ignored or minimized still speaks to that basic problem still persisting to this day, e.g. Jimmy Carr "joking" that the only positive of the Holocaust was that "Gypsies" were killed during it and getting off scot free...

[@OpticalSorcerer]

I think Pocahontas and Hunchback handled both topics of racism very well, though from different perspectives: as you mentioned, the former discusses initial colonialism whereas the latter already depicts racial integration and coexistance. I feel like everyone overlooks the heavy lifting Pocahontas did to prevent an all-out war in the film, and John only jumped in front of the shot so the writers had a reason that they couldn't be together.

[@jamesa.romano8500]

@@OpticalSorcerer I feel like if they had found a way to combine the best elements of the original and the sequel into one film they'd have had something really special and maybe even BatB level good. I'm like obsessed with Journey to a New World they even found a way to make Ratcliffe cool haha

[@orangeslash1667]

@@OpticalSorcerer Both Pocahontas and Hunchback have one thing in common, they were both green Lite by Jeffrey Katzenberg who at the time wanted to win some awards. Jeffrey even stated that he wanted Pocahontas to win best Picture😅😅😅😅. Unlike Pocahontas, Jeffrey wasn't involved in the making of Hunchback. There were plans of removing Hellfire for how dark it was, but thanks to the animators making flaming Esmeralda more clothed, so the song stayed.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

@@jamesa.romano8500 Saaaame! The film would've been one of Dosney's greatest if it had been an epic fantasy piece inspired by colonization rather than a warped interpretation of history (which may or may not have been a fake story, anyway). Combine John Smith's confidence and bravery and John Rolfe's gentlemanly intellect and he'd be worthy of Pocahontas, who I think is one of Disney's best leads, character-wise.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

@@orangeslash1667 The worst thing is that Pocahontas was used because the creators of the fi wanted a starcrossed lovers story and picked a piece of history centered on colonialism to do it. Granted, I'm sure there were colonial love stories, but from an optics POV, it probably would've been better if John Smith wasn't racist from the start (even if it provides a character arc), and we have more scenes of him and Pocahontas learning about each other's cultures. There was a deleted scene where John tells Pocahontas how English women dress, though he says she should be herself. It would've been nice to have had a montage. And I'm glad they kept Hellfire. I can see why the sequence feels WAAAY to risque for a kids' film. Most of the renaissance films prove Disney could be the first PG-13 film empire if they wanted.

[@flowercrown-eevee]

Something i did not notice until this video is the fact that the main reason that gargoyle breaks is due to Frollo slash it with his sword earlier in the confrontation. It causes a weakness in the stone so when he later stands on it to attack Quisimodo it cannot hold his weight. This perfectly shows that Frollo is responsible for his own downfall.

[@Alex-ng6hc]

Frollo isn't a powerful sorcerer, or a demon from Hell, or a deadly alien from out of space. He's just a mortal man, but a powerful man with a fanatic view of the world and a sadistic love for torture. This makes him Disney's darkest villain to date, as well as my personal favourite

[@cosmicspacething3474]

2:56 Speaking of tragic, apparently in the stage play Frollo is a lot more sympathetic. I heard disney purposely made him “pure evil” because they feared people would actively root for him.

[@NathanRBradfordMusic]

He is the best and has always been my favorite in every way. They couldn't have done it better when it came to Kathy Zielinski animating and creating him.

[@axelwulf6220]

Hearing a legendary villain voice actor speak so candid about one of his characters is both cathartic and unsettling

[@SpiderkillersInc]

Part of what makes Frollo so horrifying to me is how sincere he is in his beliefs. He firmly believes he's totally in the right despite, deep down, knowing he's in a state of deep, mortal sin. That kind of sincerity is horrifying because it's impossible to reason against it or with it.

[@nickp6498]

On top of it all, he has THE COOLEST final fight scene, and the best death in Disney history. Every good writer wants a villain like this.

[@timothyvanhoeck233]

Claude Frollo is definitely one of, if not THE darkest Disney villain. In fact, some might say he was too dark, at least for a children's film. But that just makes him that much greater.

[@ayrasimmons1607]

Tony Jay was excellent playing characters that thought they were omnipotent and incapable of wrong regardless how dark they were. His role as the elder god in legacy of kain series was incredible.

[@ayanamiayachanJ]

The hunchback of Notre Dame and Mulan are my two favorite Disney movies

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

Frollo is just one of the best villains same with Scar hes just so good written also how he never took the blame cause he thinks that it was for his good

[@dinoblacklane1640]

You know kinda reminds me of my favourite line from the witcher "You carry 2 swords, a silver one for monsters and a steel one for men?" "They're both for monsters'"

[@epache315]

4 years ago On April 15,2019 Notre Dame was burning ❤️🖤💜🔥

[@helenafarkas4534]

someone with more musical theory knowledge than me should do a deep dive analysis of the Bells of Notre Dame, and how if you are paying attention, the song answers it's own question "Who is the monster and who is the Man?" because the majority of the song is a dialogue of themes between the bouncy Bells theme (for Quasi) and what later becomes known as Hellfire (representing Frollo). because the theme the song ends on, the one *immediately* after the question is asked, is Hellfire. but of course, first time listeners might not realize that the Hellfire theme represents Frollo, because he's introduced with what I call the Judgement theme. Hellfire - outside of the very start to the song, doesn't appear until Frollo is about to drown Quasi. Judgment makes a brief comeback during his attack of conscience, but the song makes it clear that Frollo has crossed a moral line, hence why his theme is now Hellfire instead of judgment.

[@glitchy_stormcloud]

I’m so glad this movie has gotten the recognition it deserves it (and it’s soundtrack) has always been a favorite of mine for the atmosphere it gives and I used to think it was one of those Disney rejects that have been lost to time

[@Senfree]

James 1:19-24 Kinda matches with some of what Frolo shows here. He is a man who forgets what he looks like after he walks away from the mirror, or "glass".

[@epache315]

Judge Frollo He's My Favorite Disney Villain Ever ❤️🖤💜🔥

[@ShnobbsReal]

Underrated Disney Renaissance villain.

[@ArtisticCeleste]

I wish Disney would do a darker villain again-Frollo is one of my favorites because of how both realistic and terrifying he is as a character because he's a person you can realistically meet and be affected by in real life. Also side note but Tony Jay's voice is absolutely gorgeous in the way an old cathedral is-his tone has such this haunting, commanding elegance to it that really makes you just listen whenever Frollo speaks.

[@VasudevSubramaniam]

Death: I am the darkest and most scariest villain in animation Frollo: 💀💀

[@Sly-Moose]

Sure, is this the 50th Judge Frollo video essay I've seen already? Yes Am I gonna watch it anyway? *You bet your dang butt I am!*

[@generalseal6948]

frollo is a good example of what it really means to take the lords name in vein he comits evil acts for the sake of his own selfishness, ego, and desires and claims that its all gods will and he is doing it for a holy purpose to evade responsibility and blame for his actions

[@fuzzymelon1261]

frollo in the musical is quasi's uncle and he hates Romani people bc of how they made his brother fall from grace. frollo in the musical has an arc that is more like a descent into insanity and pure evil bc he lusts after esmarelda. he is still a dickhead at the start, just not completely cruel and evil.

[@kristinahuchison2511]

I mean in the book he is. His brother married a gypsy who died to the plague I believe, and unfortunately his brother was a very bad father. But Frollo wasn’t much better in the book unfortunately.

[@semnome9536]

Me as a child seeing Frollo: oh no, here comes that stupid old man who is obsessed with Esmeralda for no reason 😐 Me as an adult seeing Frollo: THIS IS A WORK OF ART 😌👌

[@corenlavolpe6143]

I feel like he's even better in the stage musical, though not many have seen it. He's pulled back a little, instead of being terrifying he's creepy which is more realistic and nuanced than the movie characterization.

[@miguelcolon7485]

You’ve clearly never had a conversation with someone who is in a cult. Trust me when I say movie frollo is very realistic. Dramatized yes but still scarily realistic.

[@corenlavolpe6143]

@@miguelcolon7485 Don't poison the well and jump to conclusions before making your point, it immediately disengages me in anything you had to say afterwards.

[@miguelcolon7485]

How did I poison the well exactly?

[@miguelcolon7485]

You make it sound like I just attacked you when that is not what happened.

[@Ashbrash1998]

​@corenlavolpe6143 the musical made him more sympathetic but the movie made him more villainous

[@fatangrygeek5746]

The soundtrack in this movie is FANTASTIC. It's one of the best soundtracks and one of the few that gives me goosebumps everytime I see this movie. Especially the music when you hear Frollo falling to his death. This is a fantastic movie, I dare say it would be number 1 if they left the talking gargoyles out of it. They seem SO out of place. But yeah number 1 disney movie right here, mainly because of how realistic Frollo is compared to those entitled men and women who think they are more righteous than anyone else.

[@dannyvalencia5224]

8:35 Aldon, good on you for taking a moment to actually defend the Christian faith and differentiating between someone who does evil to fulfill his own selfish ambition, and one who recognizes the Bible’s teachings, founded on one central motivation: love.

[@pmslevelboss]

Even Frolo's horse is evil as prostate cancer.

[@dairydregone7146]

Whoo! Can u do one for Davy Jones? How he is Disney's best sympathetic Villain?

[@captaincaspian42]

Omg Davy!!

[@theenderdestruction2362]

​@Bride of Bronze Eye, or Science Princess he's a good guy trying to be a villain

[@allandm]

Really love this movie, always makes me cry. It's a bit of a shame they felt the need to add so many random gags but its still a good movie

[@lesleyfrolloandhooklover6615]

Frollo is my all time favorite Disney Villain and he has the best Disney Villain song Hellfire🖤💜❤️🤍❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥. Tony Jay does a wonderful job of his voice for Frollo. I love him I’ve actually met Frollo 6 times at Disneyland.

[@Gracelivinglife12]

I love Frollo too and we meet again! (I saw one of your comments on another video as well!)

[@worstworkshop]

This is so insightful. I'm working on a character study, and you've done so much of the work already.

[@Headpfones]

Gargoyles are known as protectors and guardians and it’s said they protect all who reside where they live

[@balanc-joy9187]

There's something deeply disturbing in someone who refuses to see any way to be but their own...

[@purplehaze4748]

This has always been my favorite Disney Movie of all time and of course still is.

[@phillinsogood]

How do you upload so quickly I wish I can post this frequently lol. Good videos I really enjoy them

[@tyleroutland435]

I love this movie

[@1994masja]

Frollo was inspired by Amon Goth. The writers confirmed that.

[@ashleynguyen4827]

Honestly, Frollo is the best kind of love to hate type of Disney villain where nobody should ever feel sympathy for. Not only that, but he's truly the most realistic kind of villain as well. Scary part is that some or most people in reality could be like him: judgmental, had sins to hide from, and finding justifications to their actions and meanings. Judge Frollo is right about how the society would be like: judging the book by its cover, and use anyone who is different from them as a laughing stock. Hellfire is the true masterpiece of a Disney villain song next to Be Prepared. He's sort of a combination of Scar and Mother Gothel. Judge Frollo is indeed one of the underrated Disney villain.

[@epache315]

R.I.P. David Ogden Stiers and Tony Jay The Archdeacon and Judge Frollo are now in Heaven 😭😭😢😭😢😢😭😢😢😢😢😢