Alec Baldwin's Upcoming Trial. Karen Read's Mistrial. Young Thug's Trial Updates. TES Ep 290

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Emily D. Baker

Emily D. Baker

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@TheEmilyDBaker 5 ай бұрын
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@007nadineL
@007nadineL 5 ай бұрын
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@LKMNOP
@LKMNOP 5 ай бұрын
Why is State Police only going after Proctor? His superiors were in that chat and they didn't say a thing. They should all be prosecuted
@cindorella1495
@cindorella1495 5 ай бұрын
They always look for a scapegoat. He's just as guilty, but will have to pay for others' decisions too
@jackieblue6116
@jackieblue6116 5 ай бұрын
Prosecuted… for…. Nasty texts on his personal phone? Wow.
@interestedparty00
@interestedparty00 5 ай бұрын
Because he’s a fall guy. The state police don’t want to start peeling back the onion because they might find themselves peeling back far too many corrupt/disgusting layers.
@interestedparty00
@interestedparty00 5 ай бұрын
I wish the prosecutor luck trying to redo a trial in which the Mass State Police Department has concluded that the lead investor engaged in misconduct. I disagree with this channel. This case will never again see the inside of a courtroom - other than hearings for motions to dismiss charges.
@jills9373
@jills9373 5 ай бұрын
​@jackieblue6116 umn no. For intentionally botching the investigation. And planting evidence to frame a factually innocent woman. Science and physics don't lie.
@cm1642
@cm1642 5 ай бұрын
My understanding of the trial was not to find out what happened to JO but rather what didn't. There is no way KR was responsible.
@LarsCederberg-o8f
@LarsCederberg-o8f 5 ай бұрын
Why are the DA apologizing trying to put an innocent person in prison they should be ashamed of themselves
@Ladie_Paige
@Ladie_Paige 5 ай бұрын
Have you seen the interview Paul O'Keefe gave yesterday? So sad how much he hates KR and believes she's guilty. Rather ironic, considering in 2020 he was arrested for DUI causing a man to be in a wheelchair now..... AND KR is the one who bailed him out. How quickly he's forgotten his mistake. I believe he's still on probation for that too.
@karleet
@karleet 5 ай бұрын
What stunned me about that interview, was when asked why his family believes KR killed John, it was based on vibes she gave afterwards. Imagine….sounds like all the evidence, experts, and trials won’t convince them of her innocence.
@Tracey101
@Tracey101 5 ай бұрын
Huh, I didn’t know this, wow! I do, to an extent have compassion for the O’Keefe family, however I can’t understand how they sat through the trial and still believe she’s guilty.
@missylynns8966
@missylynns8966 5 ай бұрын
None of that makes sense it’s like the O’Keefe family have been hypnotized into believing lies
@CrazyAsian_303
@CrazyAsian_303 5 ай бұрын
I understand why he feels this way. They're hurting. But this is why I hope the FBI finds the missing pieces and gives them the answers they need. She's definitely innocent in my eyes. It was a bit shocking, but in the end I understand
@missylynns8966
@missylynns8966 5 ай бұрын
I can understand the O’Keefe’s being sad and devastated but of course they would want Justice for John more than us who don’t even know him. The evidence of Karen being responsible never showed up at that trial, not even close. This just doesn’t make sense from the outside but I guess we’ll never know the deepness of their hatred for Karen.
@NottyAries
@NottyAries 5 ай бұрын
Paul O'keefe's interview was extremely upsetting to me. It's like he only went to court to stare at Karen because he sure didn't go to listen to the evidence.
@MoJo53000
@MoJo53000 5 ай бұрын
I think he and his family are just in so much pain. They probably don’t know what else to do or say.
@jamkekbakeke6884
@jamkekbakeke6884 5 ай бұрын
I genuinely thought he was law enforcement, the way he just death stared KR is insane. I think its clear via him what johns family thinks. and the really sad thing in all of this is they will never know for sure, john gets no justice.
@mimijansen3262
@mimijansen3262 5 ай бұрын
​@@jamkekbakeke6884I don't know this for sure but apparently OJO's dad thinks she's innocent, but the mother and the brother think she's guilty because of her behaviour that morning... they decided just like Proctor she was guilty before they had any info...
@sasantipe
@sasantipe 5 ай бұрын
​@@MoJo53000 this can only get you so much sympathy because 2 year later I think common sense has to kick in... He doesn't care about evidence he only cares about the vibes he got from Karen the day of vibes are not evidence
@anitastanley7907
@anitastanley7907 5 ай бұрын
It was very painful to watch. Believe this family has suffered a lot and have yet to process those grief and they have to believe the law enforcement has done the best for there loved one even because he was law enforcement. So I think that’s all they can see for now
@kpeugh2011
@kpeugh2011 5 ай бұрын
If KR had been found guilty Proctor wouldn’t have been removed at all. And I 100% think he will still be a cop in 2 years time.
@LKMNOP
@LKMNOP 5 ай бұрын
I agree. They're just doing this for the PR look of it. And they will clear him. Especially as then the prosecution can still use him as a witness
@kyuubisgirl3232
@kyuubisgirl3232 5 ай бұрын
hopefully with the fbi investigation that won't be the case
@rickjason215
@rickjason215 5 ай бұрын
My problem is the Prosecutor can’t explain how John was killed. His body has no bruising. There is a huge rectangular hole in back of his head. This doesn’t happen in a car accident. It happens when someone gets hit in the back of the head with an object.
@nancymilawski1048
@nancymilawski1048 5 ай бұрын
Or possibly falls against a piece of furniture, like a coffee table or even end table
@laniakea2162
@laniakea2162 5 ай бұрын
It’s a head scratcher to me that anyone could believe her car could have done those marks on his arm. Like, okay but … that’s a real stretch of the imagination.
@rickjason215
@rickjason215 5 ай бұрын
@@nancymilawski1048 I could see that, but he had blood from 2 other people on him. The Police refused to compare the blood with people in the house and the judge refused to let the defense subpoena it.
@bufnel
@bufnel 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if Proctor would have been reprimanded if KR had been found guilty?
@wenharas1
@wenharas1 5 ай бұрын
Maybe, but it probably wouldn’t have merited a press release.
@wilson2455
@wilson2455 5 ай бұрын
I doubt it..
@KarazolaX
@KarazolaX 5 ай бұрын
Probably, but the fact he didn't get immediately booted after the trial is concerning. Cops have gotten fired for a lot less.
@williamp6800
@williamp6800 5 ай бұрын
It would all have been swept under the carpet.
@debbieeggiman6761
@debbieeggiman6761 5 ай бұрын
@@bufnel nope’
@michellepeterson3920
@michellepeterson3920 5 ай бұрын
Happy 4 th Law Nerd family
@Corncobtoiletpaper
@Corncobtoiletpaper 5 ай бұрын
I just watched the Paul O’Keefe interview and it made me want to look into the pre trial hearings a bit more. If you watch the arraignment that happened on 2/2/2022, I think it’s possible to see why the family believes she is guilty. From John’s death on 1/29/2022, everything happened very quickly and there was never time for a thorough investigation or an alternative explanation. The autopsy was done within two days and the arraignment was only 2-3 days after that. The family was told within a few days after John’s death that Karen killed him and they have looked at everything through that lens. This trial should have been delayed until after the FBI investigation concluded so that all parties had time to review and process the information. I do not think the CW proved Karen was guilty, but I do understand how difficult it would be for the OK family to accept the findings of the last two witnesses.
@4-dman464
@4-dman464 5 ай бұрын
The OK family is not OK.
@lorib-g1908
@lorib-g1908 5 ай бұрын
Fair.
@oliviahancook5195
@oliviahancook5195 5 ай бұрын
Also I noticed how the Alberts have made themselves indispensable to the Okeefe so a lot more wasgoing on before the trial. The Okeefes really need to be left alone by everyone including the other suspects which is my belief.But sorry the FBI is investigating
@acovert8241
@acovert8241 5 ай бұрын
It doesn’t settle with me that they announced his dept departure after the trial was over.
@carolynwisser3322
@carolynwisser3322 5 ай бұрын
Yeah it kind of leaves you with the impression that if they had found her guilty he would still be in his normal role.
@Mountaingoat4234
@Mountaingoat4234 5 ай бұрын
Im sure he would have been. ​@@carolynwisser3322
@mhfuzzball
@mhfuzzball 5 ай бұрын
I don't remember which lawtuber I was listening to, but they called the MSP cowards for waiting until after the mistrial to announce that.
@lucyrabbit6163
@lucyrabbit6163 5 ай бұрын
I watched start to finish. I cannot say I saw any real evidence. Therefore I cannot see how anyone could find that the burden had been met.
@mhfuzzball
@mhfuzzball 5 ай бұрын
The TikTok psychic could have done a better job 'investigating' this than the Canton PD and MA State Police.
@matthewmarshall349
@matthewmarshall349 5 ай бұрын
People hate her. They want her to be guilty, and when that happens, there's no amount of evidence that will overcome someone's predetermined emotional verdict.
@Dayofmourning
@Dayofmourning 5 ай бұрын
They began IA investigation when the public pressure became too intense. They had to do something. They would have done nothing if they could have turned a blind eye, but the world was watching.
@LKMNOP
@LKMNOP 5 ай бұрын
I think it was a PR move. Nothing's going to happen to Proctor but this way they make themselves look good.
@currentlynoname7499
@currentlynoname7499 5 ай бұрын
They will drag it until they hope people forget.
@silikon2
@silikon2 5 ай бұрын
@@currentlynoname7499Maybe but I doubt it in this case. I think the police/union are going to cut him loose quick. Because he's so incredibly damaged and not the only one... they'll try to make him the fall guy then try to forget the rest. I mean, if they were planning on people forgetting about Proctor, I don't think they would have announced this later on the same day the mistrial was declared.
@inxine
@inxine 5 ай бұрын
i wouldnt say the world was watching, as not many countries actually reported on it ha. beaides america
@silikon2
@silikon2 5 ай бұрын
@@Dayofmourning It's hilarious (or deeply disturbing) that they didn't bother investigating his conduct until he testified. That DEFINITELY means they hoped the "c word" and misogynistic texts were never exposed.
@croyabc123
@croyabc123 5 ай бұрын
Happy 4th Lawnerds and belated Canada Day to Canadian Lawnerds
@swansox
@swansox 5 ай бұрын
That was enormously helpful, Emily. Thank you! I hadn’t understood the background of why the witness wanted to plead the fifth despite having immunity. Now it all makes much more sense.
@laencleardale
@laencleardale 5 ай бұрын
They held off on the Proctor announcement until after the trial was over hoping they could still get a guilty verdict. Gross behavior and I don't believe for a second they found out during the trial. If they were truly interested in justice and cleaning up their garbage everyone on those text groups would be under investigation.
@joannedefalco8789
@joannedefalco8789 5 ай бұрын
Happy Independence Day LawNerds!!!
@blakebamf
@blakebamf 5 ай бұрын
Imagine what happens in trials that aren’t under a microscope. The problem is judges keep acting like this bc most of the time, they get away with it.
@LKMNOP
@LKMNOP 5 ай бұрын
What scares me is we find these things out only because they're high profile cases. But how many times does this happen where people have a public defender or it's not a high profile case? I think they should look back at past cases of this judge and see if he's pulled stunts
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
​@@LKMNOP when people have a public defender they usually just plea because they know they are screwed. Our system is stacked hard against you if you don't have money.
@debbysalmon2498
@debbysalmon2498 5 ай бұрын
so true
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@tanyasteers4802 5 ай бұрын
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@karoliina6049
@karoliina6049 5 ай бұрын
I've tried to watch other lawtubers. I just can't. I choose Emily mainly because of cursy words and time stamps! I appreciate the time stamps so so much.
@Smaugette
@Smaugette 5 ай бұрын
Emily loves cursy words!
@vickithomas179
@vickithomas179 5 ай бұрын
So Happy you are home Safe and Sound Emily❤❤❤
@Princelover-ip4gn
@Princelover-ip4gn 5 ай бұрын
@@vickithomas179 You KNOW those 3 boys are glad to have her back 💜💜
@sandymarcus1493
@sandymarcus1493 5 ай бұрын
Proctor got rehomed just like Chloe the dog all the phones and the Albert’s house!!
@me_6613
@me_6613 5 ай бұрын
Happy Independence Day fellow law nerds! 🇺🇸❤️🙏🏻
@lauriebazarnic
@lauriebazarnic 5 ай бұрын
Happy Independence Day for the US Lawnerds!
@creeknativegirl
@creeknativegirl 5 ай бұрын
Happy 4th LawNerds. Have a fun & safe day 💜💜
@janicefrillmann
@janicefrillmann 5 ай бұрын
Happy 4th all. Stay safe
@sherylrae
@sherylrae 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! It was so nice to receive this! Hope all of team baker and their families had a wonderful fourth. 💜
@mitzistewart5783
@mitzistewart5783 5 ай бұрын
Glad you’re back! Happy 4th of July 🇺🇸
@redsoxgalhangout6113
@redsoxgalhangout6113 5 ай бұрын
I hope the retrial is not 68 witnesses
@Sherrya2
@Sherrya2 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@michellesykes6325
@michellesykes6325 5 ай бұрын
Happy 4th of July Lawnerds ❤
@LinaGenX
@LinaGenX 5 ай бұрын
QUESTION regarding super long trials like Young Thug trial: how can the jury possibly be expected to remember all the evidence they heard/saw, when the trial is this long, and even take long breaks???
@Feisty.Comment
@Feisty.Comment 5 ай бұрын
Hey from the replay crew - - happy you're back!
@andreacollins3204
@andreacollins3204 5 ай бұрын
Oh god I missed ye!! Felt like it had been years fellow law nerds. Love from Ireland 🇮🇪
@Princelover-ip4gn
@Princelover-ip4gn 5 ай бұрын
LawNerd withdrawal here! I know EDB needs time with the fam, but I need to debrief with the LawNerds about the hung jury!🤯🤯🤯
@ChandelleMummaNerd
@ChandelleMummaNerd 5 ай бұрын
Afternoon from the UK 🇬🇧
@lisanyary7593
@lisanyary7593 5 ай бұрын
Thank you sooo much for your commentary! ..found you with Depp v Heard and watched ever since. Its so very interesting how the law works and your commentary makes it all make sense...
@cindyolmstead2970
@cindyolmstead2970 5 ай бұрын
Happy Fourth of July everyone. Thank you Emily!!
@americanprincess851
@americanprincess851 5 ай бұрын
Good to see that you are feeling better. Thank you for keeping us up to date on these various cases.
@deirdrecorey3876
@deirdrecorey3876 5 ай бұрын
❓️MSP waited until after the trial to fire Proctor. MSP & PROSECUTION both knew all this about Proctor. I feel like they colluded to keep Proctor on, to help the trial. Ethically is that OK?❓️
@dikshaedythe6042
@dikshaedythe6042 5 ай бұрын
No set Proctor up to get rid of him. They knew about conflict of interest and poisoned behavior. They knew emails could be evidence.
@debbieblair3329
@debbieblair3329 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Emily for the great updates on all the things. Happy 4th
@laura5518
@laura5518 5 ай бұрын
Key context to Judge Glanville’s “decision” to refer the recusal motions to another judge: the Supreme Court of Georgia denied a mandamus from one of the defense attorneys but issued some clarity that it should be filed in the proper court and of course Glanville couldn’t hear it. The Supreme Court basically forced him to about face.
@LKMNOP
@LKMNOP 5 ай бұрын
Hit the lawyer you know channel where you hear the judge reading the motion. Very monotone no remorse know anything. He was definitely forced to do this.
@trishnickles2236
@trishnickles2236 5 ай бұрын
MSP did the same thing with Proctor that they did with the entire investigation. They took action only because they had to do so. Hapoy 4th of July, everyone! Thank you, Emily, for an excellent update. I hope you and your family have a great (and safe), day! 💜💜
@33TimberWolf
@33TimberWolf 5 ай бұрын
Read: The O'Keefe family is still seeking justice, and there are multiple LEOs that chose to NOT investigate the murder of another LEO. Baldwin: A woman was murdered, an armorer was found guilty, but Baldwin pulled the trigger. YT: The judge broke the law, ordered balifs to violate civil rights of defense attn, and still hasn't been held accountable. The common denominator is that justice is (VERY) slow, can fail to actually remedy the damage done, and often involves people who think they are above the law... but it's still better than 90% of the other countries on this planet.
@valleygirl2530
@valleygirl2530 5 ай бұрын
That’s no excuse for our justice system looking like AGT.
@heleendhuys2591
@heleendhuys2591 5 ай бұрын
Mm beg to differ , from Belgium
@dikshaedythe6042
@dikshaedythe6042 5 ай бұрын
Pov: compromised investigation unprofessional behavior all backed up to get what they got: relief from duty. KR was the patsy.
@Lindon_Martingale
@Lindon_Martingale 5 ай бұрын
I fundamentally agree with you on every point, save for the last, with some suggested clarification. I think a fair assessment would consider that the US comes from the Common Law lineage of legal "genealogy." Of course we work within that framework to improve the process, but no other country shares our history. That lack of social, cultural, and historical analogues makes comparisons inapposite. Our system of law lacks the cleanliness and uniformity of a jurisdiction from the civil law "branch" of legal theory. Basically, saying "It works the best for us, in this country, at this time, without uprooting the whole of our jurisprudence" rings truthfully. Saying "Ninety percent of other countries, regardless of history, regardless of time, regardless of their established systems of law, fundamentally lacks something only American justice can remedy" sounds -- well, it doesn't hit the right note. It rings with the sounds of nationalism and idealism; and yet, no one designs the wheels of justice to turn back wrongs and rewrite reality. I will (and can) reiterate that I fundamentally agree on your other points. If the O'Keefe Family believes the only way to honor John O'Keefe means convicting (and demonizing) Karen Read, their position sadly holds no weight. Their bad vibes and personal dislikes do not and can not stand in the place of evidence in open court. They trust their inner circle of friends to the exclusion of reason. They place blame on defense attorneys who did and do their jobs with the zealous advocacy it requires, but they assign no blame to the investigative agencies who chose facts to fit a theory instead of the correct way. That sounds like a deep level of dissonance to me. Baldwin pulled the trigger, unless he somehow didn't, which will no doubt appear at trial. Judge Glanville puts on his soothing voice and gentle demeanor, but he has acted with far less honor than his position demands of him. The prosecution sounds no better. In your words, with the facts we have, justice takes time. No one disputes that. I jotted this all down in a few minutes, so please pardon its length. I remain confident that you can see my points and evaluate them against how you perceive the legal systems in other countries. Please also keep in mind that the US operates as a federal republic: at least fifty wheels of justice turn -- one for each State in the Union. Each wheel mills its authorities and directions from case law in that State's Supreme Court and (where necessary) the US Supreme Court. I wholeheartedly agree that the complexity of our system presents potentials and opportunities which can emerge over time. I cannot endorse broadly that the complexity stands as a beacon of superiority over some, most, or all other political subdivisions on Earth.
@33TimberWolf
@33TimberWolf 5 ай бұрын
@@Lindon_Martingale Wow. That was extremely well said. I am both impressed and appreciative of the feedback. (And I mean that genuinely, no sarcasm). Thank you for a coherent response.
@TheMsLipps
@TheMsLipps 5 ай бұрын
Thank you EDB & mods & chat.. see you on the next one. 💜
@onefarwanderer
@onefarwanderer 5 ай бұрын
Having lived in Georgia all my life and worked downtown in Atlanta for 20 years . . . This is how this state works. Inappropriate, ignorant, unprofessional 'We all family' BS. It's embarrassing for a beautiful state with so many wonderful people.
@matthewmarshall349
@matthewmarshall349 5 ай бұрын
Fellow native Georgian who lives just outside the perimeter. Can confirm.
@sherrysegreti4478
@sherrysegreti4478 5 ай бұрын
Love hearing her voice
@bretsheeley4034
@bretsheeley4034 5 ай бұрын
Re Mass IA: Sounds like CYA protocols in full effect.
@LKMNOP
@LKMNOP 5 ай бұрын
The lawyer you know did a great job on the judges reading the statement given during court
@cranken72
@cranken72 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if someone on the jury knew an Albert, McCabe or Higgins? Hmmmm
@laurawendt8471
@laurawendt8471 5 ай бұрын
That’s what voir dire is for you have to disclose people in the justice and police offices and if you have any connection to people involved in the case.
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
​@@laurawendt8471 in theory at least. It wouldn't be the first time someone lied, or even the first lie in this prosecution.
@debbysalmon2498
@debbysalmon2498 5 ай бұрын
@@laurawendt8471 But people can still lie and say they don't know anyone involved in this case.
@mathemeatloaf1000
@mathemeatloaf1000 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if they “knew or had a relationship with” the families involved.
@polivepea
@polivepea 5 ай бұрын
I truly think some did
@Ladie_Paige
@Ladie_Paige 5 ай бұрын
Happy 4th everyone!! ❤️🤍💙
@YallAintRight
@YallAintRight 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this Young Thug analysis.
@tamarasmith2267
@tamarasmith2267 5 ай бұрын
I miss our Emily ❤
@sherryernst9901
@sherryernst9901 5 ай бұрын
I personally think the only reason why they made the statement of an IA investigation is because now they are embarrassed because it was on national television and very publicized what he said and how the entire department acted. Now they're trying to cover their booties cause their butts are on fire.
@debbysalmon2498
@debbysalmon2498 5 ай бұрын
Which I wish the interviewer had asked him to explain the Butts dials and the butts talking to each other for 23 seconds.
@cynthiabrawley3176
@cynthiabrawley3176 5 ай бұрын
I am so happy you made it home safely! ❤🎉😊
@Mike-qt6vu
@Mike-qt6vu 5 ай бұрын
Awesome recap. Happy July 4 th. You’re the best. ❤❤❤
@SisterFrannyB
@SisterFrannyB 5 ай бұрын
Everyone needs a defense attorney who will take off his coat, roll up his sleeves and go to jail to protect you!!
@shannontimmons5594
@shannontimmons5594 5 ай бұрын
Missed you Emily!
@mellylo
@mellylo 5 ай бұрын
Missed watching you!! Good to have you back
@lauriedaniele5967
@lauriedaniele5967 5 ай бұрын
Happy Fourth of July to you and your family
@mariannemccarrick4124
@mariannemccarrick4124 5 ай бұрын
Happy July 4th
@lyndachele
@lyndachele 5 ай бұрын
Missed you, EDB!💜💜💜
@currentlynoname7499
@currentlynoname7499 5 ай бұрын
I bet the judge won't allow the fact that Proctor is under IA and has been removed from cases in the next hearing.
@matthewmarshall349
@matthewmarshall349 5 ай бұрын
She had no problem letting in evidence with a severely broken chain of custody or barring the defense from opening with their key theory.
@risabiller2602
@risabiller2602 5 ай бұрын
Bev is the reason for the mistrial. She’s a hack. So bad at her job it’s mind blowing. The last case she had ended in a mistrial as well. Shocker! That ALSO involved the death of a Weymouth police officer who was brutally killed and an older woman who got hit by a stray bullet. Bev caused a mistrial just recently in that case as well. She’s incompetent
@sw1632
@sw1632 5 ай бұрын
John O'Keefe brother have an interview yesterday. I feel for the O'Keefe Family and i wish they would see all the evidence but they like Proctor and all the investigators in this case. There too blinded but there hurt. I get that but you can't accuse a person because of feelings.
@wenharas1
@wenharas1 5 ай бұрын
They have trusted the investigation. It gives them an answer that they need. If the investigation is wrong, then they have no answers and may never get them. 😢
@mistyangel
@mistyangel 5 ай бұрын
According to retired Mass judge and Mass attorneys the judge does NOT poll the jury and the defense are not allowed to contact jurors unless the jurors contact them OR speak publicly.
@kathybates1751
@kathybates1751 5 ай бұрын
​@@mistyangelThe main reason I believe she is guilty is the tail light fragments on the shirt. I think it's a big stretch of the imagination to believe all this evidence was planted . Maybe in a movie but not in real life
@newname4405
@newname4405 5 ай бұрын
@@kathybates1751you say it’s the evidence that makes you not just dismiss the veracity of the charges, but evidence is exactly what both the commonwealth’s and defense’s witnesses (The ME, that is, for the commonwealth, plus well known experts with no reason for bias) referred to when they said unequivocally that o’keefe’s injuries were not the result of being hit by a car. That ALONE should make any sane and fair person admit that it’s impossible to convict based on proof beyond a reasonable doubt because if he wasn’t hit by a car, how is she responsible for his death? Forget the cover up allegations, forget the frame job forget the suggestions of what did happen, what the evidence definitely tells us is what didn’t happen, and what didn’t happen was that car hitting o’keefe and causing the injuries leading to his death. Tell me, how can anybody operating in good faith possibly stand by a guilty verdict when it’s basically been laid as fact that he did not die the way the commonwealth’s case and charges implicitly state he did. You can’t charge someone for leaving the scene of a non-accident. You can’t charge someone for DUI manslaughter when operating a vehicle has no connection to the death, and you certainly cannot say she’s guilty of intentionally running him down and killing him with her car in the same universe where it’s acknowledged that he did not die as a result of Gettjng hit by a car. No matter what you think of taillight pieces being found somewhere, that does not come close to surpassing the bar of reasonable doubt about the manner of death with these far more concrete conclusions by even the medical examiner. Where is your moral certainty ; do you have the moral fortitude to admit that the testimony and evidence do not support a conviction with the highest burden of proof in the court system?
@debbysalmon2498
@debbysalmon2498 5 ай бұрын
@@kathybates1751 What about no blood around his head, no injuries inside or out, by a 7000 Pound SUV going 24 mile an hour except the head gash and the arm. and you think guilty because tail light fragments in the shirts which were in Proctors trunk for two weeks? Planted like everything other tail light fragments.
@16npeterson
@16npeterson 5 ай бұрын
Enjoyed today's update!
@OuiOui-H
@OuiOui-H 5 ай бұрын
Love you EDB ❤
@smurfmonster
@smurfmonster 5 ай бұрын
I think their hand was forced regarding a IA investigation once Proctor started contradicting evidence he’d given in the grand jury case when he was giving evidence eg the not knowing any of the Alberts or the McAbe family then in testimony he admitted working cold cases with one relative, admitting meeting others in his parents house etc etc etc only when he was backed into a corner did he openly admit that he knew several members of the family showing dishonesty not only in his Grand Jury testimony but also continuing to deny it until evidence was presented THEN he told the truth. Also he admitted drink driving in his marked police vehicle and he admitted he had no clue what the procedure was regarding continuity of evidence when that was a KEY part of his role as lead investigator plus he admitted that he passed information to his sister that had not been released to the public, another act of dishonesty and integrity issue. None of the above information was included in evidence, it wasn’t until he admitted it giving evidence that it became known. This is all off the top of my head, if I watched his testimony again I’m sure I could find lots more.
@clmoore1492
@clmoore1492 5 ай бұрын
Have so much stuff to process with Karen Read case while EBD was not available. I'm not ready to just move on to the next trial...
@Princelover-ip4gn
@Princelover-ip4gn 5 ай бұрын
I have had Chat withdrawal! I know EDB needs to be with her fam, but I need my LawNerds to debrief on the hung jury 😢💜💜💜
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
Same. I am not invested in the Baldwin trial really at all and my brain still needs more info on the Read case. I need all the pretrial stuff and info that didn't come in. I need everything on the fbi investigation. I don't know if I even care to watch Baldwin. Baldwin seems fairly cut and dried. There are some questions for the jury but not many and they're simple questions. There might might be some interesting lawyering, but I don't know if I can make myself care about the case enough to go through it all.
@clmoore1492
@clmoore1492 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. I want to dissect Paul Okeefes statement. Seems like proctor, they decided karen did it within a few hours becuz she was acting weird right after. No discussion of actual evidence. None!​@hnraj9441
@stephaniemeeyr9599
@stephaniemeeyr9599 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for keeping us updated.
@1stCainite
@1stCainite 5 ай бұрын
The fact that the state can force an immunity agreement on a witness is suspect as hell.
@TeresaAnnAskew
@TeresaAnnAskew 5 ай бұрын
Hello Emily, thank you for update on all these trials. Much appreciated. Kim🇬🇧
@sherylrae
@sherylrae 5 ай бұрын
Glad you’re home safe. Rest up it’s gonna be a bumpy ride next week
@izzystanleyfit6517
@izzystanleyfit6517 5 ай бұрын
For the Australians, the Kohberger trial being our entire winter is actually pretty good 🤣
@amireallythatgrumpy6508
@amireallythatgrumpy6508 5 ай бұрын
And the Kiwis.
@70sMixTapes
@70sMixTapes 5 ай бұрын
Apparently the police union is one of the most protective unions which is why the IA investigation will take time. Atty Mark Bederow of NY says that Proctor is of no use in further investigations because he can not be put on the stand to testify.
@kathrynfallon8256
@kathrynfallon8256 5 ай бұрын
Happy 4th of July my fellow American Law Nerds. 🎉🎉
@TheMovieLoft
@TheMovieLoft 5 ай бұрын
I watched the whole thing, and there was way more evidence and facts that she is innocent, how can anyone not see that - beyond reasonable doubt. So it’s a not guilty from me
@cleopatra444
@cleopatra444 5 ай бұрын
because this whole case and framed work comes from the whole police dptmt and also judge bevs ,, imo she manipulated the jury , starting with those confusing instructions and allegadelly dismissing 3 jurors at the last minute bcs they were ready to vote not guilty ,,, thats what s being said 👀🤷🏻‍♀️
@MaginFlaBlueChoice
@MaginFlaBlueChoice 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully venue & judge will be changed!!
@sandymarcus1493
@sandymarcus1493 5 ай бұрын
Happy 4th Emily have a safe and great day
@ryanr6240
@ryanr6240 5 ай бұрын
I bet Baldwin takes the stand, he seems like one hell of an arrogant guy, smartest and most charming one in the room type.
@vickislominski7618
@vickislominski7618 5 ай бұрын
There's no way he will NOT testify. He is the smartest, smoothest, most charismatic man in the universe. 🤦🏼‍♀️
@mxnjones
@mxnjones 5 ай бұрын
Like the mirror universe version of Sarah Boone?
@BCinTN
@BCinTN 5 ай бұрын
Just got my app notification quite awhile after start 🥺
@Trunks2treasures
@Trunks2treasures 5 ай бұрын
Missed you girlie! I doom scroll just looking for a new vid. Not mad about AB starting next week. ❤
@kathymccalley3492
@kathymccalley3492 5 ай бұрын
Because his texts were brought to the world to hear and see❗️
@susanjanec
@susanjanec 5 ай бұрын
My husband’s theory was maybe JOK was investigating police corruption and possibly found out some information he shouldn’t have and lost his life because of it. It’s seems plausible because of more cases coming out.
@Concur450
@Concur450 5 ай бұрын
If the lead investigator is corrupt, how can they retry? That makes no sense.
@sherrellelkins1976
@sherrellelkins1976 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Emily. You made my day.
@HillaryMarides
@HillaryMarides 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Emily. I just ordered from some lip liner from your sponsor and I usually don’t wear lip liner.
@LittleladyChelle
@LittleladyChelle 5 ай бұрын
I really hope the next Read trial is more clearly presented. I don’t know if that’s possible with Lolly but I think that was a huge part of the problem!!
@michelleb6739
@michelleb6739 5 ай бұрын
Part of the replay crew! And missing daily trial with the Law Nerds!
@TheEmilyDBaker
@TheEmilyDBaker 5 ай бұрын
We will be back at it soon….
@Princelover-ip4gn
@Princelover-ip4gn 5 ай бұрын
@@TheEmilyDBakeryou promise?😢💜💜
@MotherofPapillons
@MotherofPapillons 5 ай бұрын
Copelands testimony was entertaining. He is having NONE of it and trusts neither side. I don't blame him really.
@jediping
@jediping 5 ай бұрын
I would be surprised if Proctor gets fired. And even if he does get fired, he’d get hired somewhere else. That’s how police misconduct is typically handled.
@Artemis2317
@Artemis2317 5 ай бұрын
How anyone on that jury had Not One reasonable doubt, is just not reasonable. Beliefs not reason seems to have won the day.
@hope7144
@hope7144 5 ай бұрын
You Deserve a Break / Rest After the Karen Read Trial !!! Take time with your family, get some rest and relaxation and have FUN ! Looking forward to Alec Baldwin trial with you !
@North_West1
@North_West1 5 ай бұрын
Has Baldwin Attorneys filed a motion for Coffee yet?
@rileyallen489
@rileyallen489 5 ай бұрын
Re: Proctor. I'm not at all surprised that they didn't do anything until after it looked bad in public. It is, however, quite telling that despite five MSP officers being in the nudes group chat (one of whom was Proctor's boss), Proctor is the only one being punished. It seems to me that if they really cared about rooting out misconduct, Proctor wouldn't be the only trooper under fire.
@whatiwasgoingtosay
@whatiwasgoingtosay 5 ай бұрын
Please keep us up to date on any filings in the Baby Reindeer lawsuit. I keep waiting to see Netflix’s response.
@applecoreeater
@applecoreeater 5 ай бұрын
If all of this happens when they know the case is in the public eye, what the heck happens in trials that arent widely publicised?
@Marstux
@Marstux 5 ай бұрын
Will there be a recap on the federal investigation on Karen Read case?
@ACEplayers
@ACEplayers 5 ай бұрын
There was an objection during Proctor’s testimony regarding defense harassing his sister… I wonder if that’s the investigation
@marmite.
@marmite. 5 ай бұрын
Proctor will be in more trouble if they are looking into that as he lied yet again.,
@deirdrecorey3876
@deirdrecorey3876 5 ай бұрын
Defense was meeting Lucky to talk to him about what he saw. They didn't know Proctors sister was at the school. They didn't ask for her or talk about her. Proctor LIED. Big surprise...
@marmite.
@marmite. 5 ай бұрын
@@deirdrecorey3876 exactly...Lucky asked to meet there.
@KarenPeck54
@KarenPeck54 5 ай бұрын
Microdots just posted an excellent video with someone who knew JO and others.
@rebeccabenckert
@rebeccabenckert 5 ай бұрын
If we choose to believe the statement about how the IA investigation of Proctor started AFTER testimony, I wonder if maybe the reason that’s the case is because Proctor had to confirm under oath he did send those texts and that’s irrefutable truth. Maybe they were in denial of the legitimacy of the texts.
@hnraj9441
@hnraj9441 5 ай бұрын
Nah. It was his phone. They don't generally hold out for someone to admit under oath that they sent the texts on their own phone. It's just more cops covering up for cops until there is so much public scrutiny that they are pressured into taking some kind of token action. The whole system is built around that "thin blue line" bs. It's a problem.
@patithomas1614
@patithomas1614 5 ай бұрын
Part of the replay crew ... Had to like 👍 ... 💜
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