Aleksandr Dugin Fourth Political Theory Lecture

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@samn8309
@samn8309 2 жыл бұрын
There is something extremely terrifying but transcendent about Dugin's theories. Modernism and the void of meaning, being, and roots has become increasingly intolerable in the west. The more we push our universal western values on the rest of the world the more we lose our sense of self. It feels like he is opening the door to another possible future which is perhaps inevitable if we are to carry on as humans rather than automatons with no future at all (hence the end of history which Dugin proposes if liberalism prevails).
@MoiLiberty
@MoiLiberty 2 жыл бұрын
Liberalism reminds me of the ancient Greeks: once they defeated it’s foreign enemies, they fought themselves.
@nahumflores7182
@nahumflores7182 11 ай бұрын
Yes, to me it reminds me of what it meant democracy for the Greeks. Liberalism for who?
@nahumflores7182
@nahumflores7182 10 ай бұрын
Liberalism for the multinational corporations so the can have free reign to loot and exploit people. That's what they fighting for, not that they want to make the world a better place for everyone!
@Ger-Ben
@Ger-Ben 7 ай бұрын
A Greek friend once told me: 'I don't understand why they always refer to the ancient Greek origin of democracy and fail to record that after democracy the system turned into tyranny.'
@Polit_Burro
@Polit_Burro 5 ай бұрын
*Right wingers who try to "do history" make me laugh.* They act as if "ancient Greeks" (as if there were such a thing) were not fighting amongst themselves even while they fought the Persians. It's like they never heard of the Achmaenaeds and the Ionian/Aeolian vassals who fought in the ranks of the Persian army.
@Polit_Burro
@Polit_Burro 5 ай бұрын
It's also ironic that you take such a modernist view of the hellenic world (assuming unification was something that even concerned these people, and not their local lives and communities) while salivating over the boots of a self-proclaimed "critic of radical modernity from the right" LOL
@minator1277
@minator1277 4 жыл бұрын
You always cover people not really talked about commonly in west philosophy and politics, keep up the great work!
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 2 жыл бұрын
Funny this was true when you posted it but now everyone is talking about Dugin.
@BobHooker
@BobHooker Жыл бұрын
Dogan gets way more coverage than his pathetic ideas deserve
@wassabekil
@wassabekil 7 ай бұрын
Brilliantly delivered. Answered a lot of questions and raised a multitude of others to meditate on.
@cobrastriesand7693
@cobrastriesand7693 3 жыл бұрын
Amazingly clear and well-organized. Every couple of months I think to myself “maybe there’s a new video about Dugin that will finally make sense to me”, and I could never find anything that I could follow, or that I enjoyed listening to, until now.
@hithere4719
@hithere4719 3 жыл бұрын
I have only ever heard about him as a Boogeyman so I have just imagined him as a new Rasputin…it is swell and quite refreshing to get a straightforward perspective 👍🏻
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 2 жыл бұрын
If you find Dugin's idea "a special kind of truth .. one you must accept" puzzling, then the talk "Evaluating Russia by a Finnish Intelligence officer" explains cultural outlooks which are alien to Western thinking.
@AmadeusDR
@AmadeusDR 10 ай бұрын
@@RobBCactiveThank you for this reccomendation. A year on and I'm glad to have found this comment.
@waynevanrensburg8037
@waynevanrensburg8037 2 жыл бұрын
Knowledge is power. Who is watching this in 2022.
@johnisaname
@johnisaname 2 жыл бұрын
Watching it now after having watched the Keith Woods video on the same subject which just came out.
@platoscavealum902
@platoscavealum902 2 жыл бұрын
ℹ️
@nelidaferraz6497
@nelidaferraz6497 2 жыл бұрын
I am. I’m always searching new ideas which should lead us , the mankind , out of this stupid senseless global society. We must be transcendental as Heidegger teaches us. Holzweg ! Why not ?
@RomanDobs
@RomanDobs 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve known about this theory for a while turns out he is genocidal but in the final analysis the orthodox world will prevail in the decadent west Glory to Sultanine and God in the highest arch angels and peace to his people on earth
@matthewsargent9497
@matthewsargent9497 2 жыл бұрын
2022
@patricelauverjon3177
@patricelauverjon3177 2 жыл бұрын
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist." Eisenhower
@BeyondSeraphim
@BeyondSeraphim 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this was very insightful. Would love to see more content exploring these ideas
@CandideSchmyles
@CandideSchmyles 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! THANK YOU for a most comprehensible summary of Dugin's book.
@no.stache.nietzsche1635
@no.stache.nietzsche1635 3 жыл бұрын
Found this introduction really helpful and well laid out, ty!!
@mj011n1r
@mj011n1r 2 жыл бұрын
amazing lecture. I have been looking for a crash course on Dugin and you delivered it.
@raakareiska9804
@raakareiska9804 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty nice science fiction but fir real geopolitics more like a joke
@jdlflagstone6980
@jdlflagstone6980 2 жыл бұрын
@@raakareiska9804 🤦‍♂️.. "you can lead a person to info, but you can't make him think" -canadian prepper
@raakareiska9804
@raakareiska9804 2 жыл бұрын
@@jdlflagstone6980 "You can larp imagination geopolitics but beware of car bombs" - Sun Tzu
@pinklady7184
@pinklady7184 Жыл бұрын
Wait till you read the book "Hyperborean Theory" by Aleksandr Dugin. In the first chapter, he describes all black people as "non-humans," "the bestial race," "dumb and stupid." In next chapters, you want to read what he says about Arabs, Latin Americans, non-white Asians.
@LectionesInterbellum
@LectionesInterbellum 2 жыл бұрын
The moment we can communicate with each other instantly and directly, from anywhere all over the world to any other place in the world, at any time of the night and day, we have nothing to communicate anymore -> absence of time.
@cdedc653
@cdedc653 4 жыл бұрын
Hype for this
@anthonyrepetto3474
@anthonyrepetto3474 2 жыл бұрын
44:30 - "How our consciousness... creates time, and why it has to create time. He... uh, it's a rather short section... we're going to *skip over it for the sake of time.* " I am still chuckling, thank you!
@solarowl88
@solarowl88 2 жыл бұрын
Неожиданно неплохо изложил. Моё уважение.
@simpinainteasy680
@simpinainteasy680 2 жыл бұрын
It seems so, good to see a real slav chime in on it.
@a145m20
@a145m20 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering people that are not taught as widely as they should!
@raakareiska9804
@raakareiska9804 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is a joke in his "geopolitics"
@NenadVukicevic
@NenadVukicevic 4 жыл бұрын
Another awesome lecture. Thank you!
@si-zelotes
@si-zelotes 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic exposition of material I've been struggling to get my head round. Thanks for this you've saved many hours of brain aching study. 😅 ( I will get the book tho!)
@maxheadrom3088
@maxheadrom3088 2 жыл бұрын
Liberalism is democracy, rule of law, independence or State powers. It's included in "rule of law" but it's good clarify that it also includes "all are equal under the law".
@jamesmiller2735
@jamesmiller2735 2 жыл бұрын
That's what the make you to believe but the reality is that there is such thing as class and through out man's history we have had this sort of class struggle, so according to your thinking if all are equal why do your leaders always have to come from a certain class of people.
@robscovell5951
@robscovell5951 8 ай бұрын
@@jamesmiller2735 Yes. "Rule of Law" is really "Rule of Lawmakers". Equality under the law is a theoretical position not borne out in reality.
@PulsatingShadow
@PulsatingShadow 4 жыл бұрын
*Nick Land has entered the chat*
@BearTraderDan
@BearTraderDan 6 ай бұрын
Well done , you made Dugin easy to understand , thank you .
@Mytyay_ShostaIV
@Mytyay_ShostaIV 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see that lots of western people know Dugin
@Mytyay_ShostaIV
@Mytyay_ShostaIV 2 жыл бұрын
@Myname Isunavailable nah Dugin is not fascist. You're just politically uneducated
@justintabatabai8063
@justintabatabai8063 2 жыл бұрын
Just a rebranded neo fascist
@ИванМаляров-ю4в
@ИванМаляров-ю4в 2 жыл бұрын
@Myname Isunavailable But... He is not
@Exiled35
@Exiled35 2 жыл бұрын
Dugin on time: he is explaining and adopting Heiddeger “being in time” not creating a philosophy of time
@AgrippaPetronius1903
@AgrippaPetronius1903 3 жыл бұрын
What tremendous offering and phenomenal insights am currently watching your entire list namaste
@sanjam.4251
@sanjam.4251 2 жыл бұрын
Russia has very long and rich religious philosophy haretage. Dugin is one of its representatives today. To understand his points (which are brilliant btw) you need to know Slavic culture, history and Orthodox religion from inside. This was very nicely done episode! Thanx
@GIhomie
@GIhomie 2 жыл бұрын
They aren't brilliant, they are just rebranded authoritarian neo-imperialist talking points
@latviankhan2989
@latviankhan2989 2 жыл бұрын
@@GIhomie this just shows me how you don’t understand dugin or amything that is talked about in this video
@GIhomie
@GIhomie 2 жыл бұрын
@@latviankhan2989 I have actually read Dugins work and not just watched some western Kids video about him. There is a reason why neo-nazis here in eastern Europe love him and his work. If you are blind to the blatant expansionist&imperialist agendas he has written about, the regressive authoritarian policies that are supposed to strip people of their basic rights gradually i see why you would be naive enough to say something as uneducated as that. You probably read Mein Kampf and tought it was brilliant work of political philosophy by some austrian dude who had a little weird thing towards the jews, but otherwise an ok dude.
@sanjam.4251
@sanjam.4251 2 жыл бұрын
@@GIhomie Maybe, but thats not how I understood it.
@GIhomie
@GIhomie 2 жыл бұрын
@@sanjam.4251 that is understandable as it is not meant to be an overly obvious agenda of his "philosophy" except in his book: Foundations of geopolitics, where the imperialist talking points are clear. But of course there are many more examples of these agendas in his works, some statements are of course more masks off than others. But over all his Works are regressive authoritarian propaganda pieces.
@LectionesInterbellum
@LectionesInterbellum 2 жыл бұрын
To explain the different perceptions of time, one can take Germany as a perfect example, because in Germany there are two different “mental time zones” we could say, and the barrier is the Elbe river dividing the former DDR with West-Germany. Even 30 years after the fall of the Berlin wall these differences are still very much real. East- and West-Germany think differently, have different views of the world and vote differently.
@StrangerByTheHour
@StrangerByTheHour 2 жыл бұрын
Really great job with this, thanks for making it
@MrHappy702
@MrHappy702 3 жыл бұрын
I don't recall the exact arguments, but I heard from many thinkers in the national right space claim Dugin may be an intellectual trap, a "honeypot" to capture possible thinkers that might actually serve as a threat to the system. Is there any additional information around this idea?
@cobrastriesand7693
@cobrastriesand7693 3 жыл бұрын
Supposedly, at one point, Dugin said that in order for the multipolar world to emerge, The US Empire had to be neutralized, and that Russia, and other civilizations who are in conflict with America, should pursue this neutralization by exacerbating America’s racial and ideological conflicts. The implication (to people who think he’s a “honey trap”) is that wants Russia to fund white nationalists organizations inside the US , not to restore America to some type of folkish past, but just to make trouble, and eventually end up dead or in jail. I should say, if there was any evidence that Russia really was funding US white nationalists, I think we would have heard about it by now.
@MrHappy702
@MrHappy702 3 жыл бұрын
@@cobrastriesand7693 This makes more sense. Thanks!
@lynlee6861
@lynlee6861 3 жыл бұрын
@@cobrastriesand7693 not necessarily funding, but influencing
@cobrastriesand7693
@cobrastriesand7693 3 жыл бұрын
@@lynlee6861 From what I’ve seen of the controversy, Dugin really did write that Russia should cultivate American white nationalist, along with other kinds of malcontents, in order to weaken America - though again there is no evidence this actually happened. A few years latter, reactionaries (particularly Keith Woods) started critiquing white nationalism from a Duginist perspective, so the white nationalist (particularly Greg Johnson) shot back that “Duginism was a Russian scheme to sabotage white nationalism”, which to me personally, seems like a willful misreading, but WNs have a bad habit of assuming that anyone who disagrees with them, is doing so in order to hurt them. Whereas it seems to me like Dugin simply doesn’t care about the future of the “white race” in North America Anyway, that’s the controversy that I’m familiar with.
@nachoskyful
@nachoskyful 3 жыл бұрын
@@cobrastriesand7693 The beauty of modern intelligence work is that you no longer have to transfer a pile of cash to have a foreign actor work toward your desired goal.
@quantummath
@quantummath 2 жыл бұрын
Good job Chad 👌👌 Keep up the good work man. I started reading more about Dugin's ideas after Russia's invasion of Ukraine. You've summarized Dugin pretty well man. What you mention about Dugin's view of time was new to me. Even though I have some reservations about such an idea, I find it interesting. Cheers. 🍻
@AmadeusDR
@AmadeusDR 10 ай бұрын
I'm so glad people are more interested in Dugin. I made several posts on social media about a year before his daughter was tragically assassinated and now more and more people call me to speak to me about the assessments I made based off of his work. It seems his idealogies and theoretical proposals are being adopted more globally due to the shift towards multipolarity. You did an exellent breakdown of his work and explained it very well. I posted to another one of your commentors but I was able to accurately predict several geopolitical events and make trades upwards of 1.7million USD due to his works.
@yurigansmith
@yurigansmith 2 жыл бұрын
That was the by far clearest presentation of Dugin's concept of Eurasianism. Thanks a lot!
@zaxapitsa
@zaxapitsa 2 жыл бұрын
Magnificent video, thanks a lot! Just one thing, every single period of history has been ruled by unipolar power. Their reach was never actually global but it often applied to the "known world". What I mean is that a multi-polar world would be a first, so there's that.
@jdlflagstone6980
@jdlflagstone6980 2 жыл бұрын
I think there's been periods of somewhat peaceful unipolar power separated by periods of countries fighting to see who gets dominance for the next period of unipolar power. With multiple powers, each one wants an advantage over the other and at some point one sanctions the other or take a key piece of land and the balance either gets restored or it tips to one side making a unipolar world again. Eventually it will always tip one way or the other. I suppose it's an interesting idea, but more likely what "multi-polar world" really just means "let's start the cycle again and see who gets to rule the next unipolar world". We will likely have a unipolar world, for a generation or two, but we will also likely have very hard times ahead for a generation or two beforehand... US isn't going to allow a multi polar world without a fight..
@Daniel-gq1xy
@Daniel-gq1xy 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Always good to take in views of others. Thank you. Excellent video.
@elizedajose4217
@elizedajose4217 4 жыл бұрын
Dugin is our great contemporary. Thank's for giving him the floor.
@danieldavis6288
@danieldavis6288 4 жыл бұрын
This is brilliance. I need this book. Here may be the logical conclusion of the work of Nietzche and Evola. I really suggest a comparison of Dugin and Guiillaume Faye.
@hyperboreanarchives7299
@hyperboreanarchives7299 3 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? This guy is a self-avowed 𝚌𝚘𝚖𝚖𝚞𝚗𝚒𝚜𝚝 and tendentious extremist. I seriously doubt 𝑬𝒗𝒐𝒍𝒂 would associate with the likes of him.
@danieldavis6288
@danieldavis6288 3 жыл бұрын
@@hyperboreanarchives7299 Did you and I watch different videos? I'm pretty sure he argued AGAINST communism at several points. Mere collectivism does not a communist make.
@hyperboreanarchives7299
@hyperboreanarchives7299 3 жыл бұрын
@@danieldavis6288 He was a founding member of 𝑵𝑨𝒁𝑩𝑶𝑳 and just because he claims to renounce it now in order to subvert and infiltrate does not mean his abjuration is genuine. So forgive me if I remain Incredulous and advise you to do the same.
@danieldavis6288
@danieldavis6288 3 жыл бұрын
@@hyperboreanarchives7299 I have no idea what that is or means, but the context isn't lost. I'll take it under advisement.
@hyperboreanarchives7299
@hyperboreanarchives7299 3 жыл бұрын
@@danieldavis6288 That's all I could expect, thank you for hearing me out. Best of luck on your journey and remember to stay skeptical.
@ejws1575
@ejws1575 2 жыл бұрын
Baudrillard’s stuff on potlach and the accursed share is an interesting comparison on the global time thing
@kamelame9633
@kamelame9633 4 жыл бұрын
Funny, I just looked at this guy a day ago
@nardi493
@nardi493 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@physicalremoval24
@physicalremoval24 4 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@lukman013
@lukman013 4 жыл бұрын
Me too wtf lol. We’re getting spied on 😂
@ymb5468
@ymb5468 2 жыл бұрын
The definition of time and history is interesting
@nutbrandon893
@nutbrandon893 2 жыл бұрын
you are very knowledgeable on these topics, i commend you for giving us in depth examples on the content as well. great work hope to see more of these lectures
@TylerO_O.
@TylerO_O. Жыл бұрын
great channel/Lecture
@Dantto92
@Dantto92 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks so much for this insightfull lecture into dugins theory. I think something like this might be the future if we want to avoid the transhumanist future. I feel finding your individuality and identity in your civilization is better than loss of it in to the global world state. His ideas remind me about Sri Aurobindos vision of the future. He uses words like mental subjectivism and nations discovering their souls. Thanks!
@revi.talose.8643
@revi.talose.8643 2 жыл бұрын
what are you a liberal? The 4th position is against individualism, it hates liberalism due to the "individualism" or some shit idk this is all clown shit. I do agree a transhumanist future would very very bad, though I don't care for individuality and such when it pertains to this matter, more so the enlarged gap in power it would bring down upon civilization, a kind of power whose clutches might never be able to be gotten rid of when formed.
@tyemich8820
@tyemich8820 2 жыл бұрын
I see nothing bad about a transhumanist future as long as its a technocommunist one
@revi.talose.8643
@revi.talose.8643 2 жыл бұрын
@@tyemich8820 The main downside I see to transhumanism would be an extension of the human capability. Current every person who has ever lived would fucking *die* if you shot them in the head enough times. If humanity could get to a point where this is not the case the equality of death under which we all live will be disturbed. This could have some bad bad consequences due to the new imbalances in power that'd come about. idk this is just my perspective
@tyemich8820
@tyemich8820 2 жыл бұрын
@@revi.talose.8643 I see what you mean. Currently, the amount of wealth and power you get can depend on your capabilities. If people are born with grossly different capabilities, that will create a caste society, like in the movie Gattaca, but I'm hoping that by then it won't matter that much because Marxism would start making sense, and everyone would get according to their needs, because most work would be done by robots and there are free things.
@revi.talose.8643
@revi.talose.8643 2 жыл бұрын
@@tyemich8820 yes exactly, I've seen a lot of marxists praise transhumanism, or even a post human society as a potentially good thing, when I think the real dangers it poses of reifying class is very much underlooked. And this is an issue I don't think you could fix this by simply implementing a marxist framework, instead active anti-transhuman action might be needed.
@mls_33
@mls_33 2 жыл бұрын
Every day we are reminded of the fall of the USSR and its consequences, least of which is this hodgepodge ideology. My favorite part was his "critique" of Marxists; Orthodox and Social Democratic, neither of which represent the materialist conception of history that Marxists use. He failed to mention that everyone knows Marx was wrong about where revolutions occur, and theory was updated by Lenin, Stalin, Mao and others as history progressed. The point of communist worldview is that conditions change and societies must adapt to meet them. Dugin correctly asserts some of the issues with liberalism (capitalism), but what he comes away with is not too far removed from fascism, just focusing more on ethno vs national distinctions.
@jamesmiller2735
@jamesmiller2735 2 жыл бұрын
His is not wrong about humans being more ethnocentric than liberal, just imagine yourself been a white boy in a black locker room, won't you fell awkward or just look at what happened during covid-19 pandemic we literally closed our borders seeking to secure ourselves first before helping other nations, that is pure ethnocentric action and it's in our instinct.
@off6848
@off6848 8 ай бұрын
Dugin is right that’s why all of your Marxist Leninist heroes like Stalin and Mao were also “basically fascists” Because that shit don’t work and the only way to stand up against liberalism is to appeal to the ethnocentrism of a people with a past
@dr0mp507
@dr0mp507 2 жыл бұрын
Started to study Dughin due to current events, what I find odd is that his (applied) ideeas that triggered the whole conflicts are based on an optimistic view rather than one realistic. Correct me if i'm wrong but for starters he assumes that small nationalities will be "eaten" up by older bigger civilizations and have no power in their choice, he also assumes that relative thruth can also be propaganda or manufactured truth (some discordianism here?), he also has an utopic view of the outcome (contradictory to his beliefs of time concepts). I'm not so smart about these subjects, i dive in and stop when it gets too hard but from a layman's pov I find that Dugin does not consider alot of things. I watched him in an interview on a national russian channel boasting and enjoying how they will establish a new world order by attacking Ukraine, finishing with a the conclusion that this has to go "all the way" or russian civilization will dissapear.... I mean what makes his ideeas different from fascism or nazism, if the outcome is basically the same, hurt life to impose a new way of thinking and if you loose everyone must loose?
@jomo3564
@jomo3564 2 жыл бұрын
The American culture is dominating the world. So to save their cultures, ancient civilisations have to oppose to the young American McDonald's culture. And as a French, I agree with him. Americans can't understand with their 200years of existence China, Russia, Persia etc...
@nk_9715
@nk_9715 2 жыл бұрын
exactly, this is what Dugin's glorifiers blind themselves into. In my mind it is the same pile of twisted vile intellectualised ideologies. Capitalism, liberalism aren't perfect systems for sure, but I still wait for someone to devise a strong doctrine that could solve these problems while simultaneosly not turning into authoritarian, radical far-right or fascist ideologies that in reality could easily result in humanitarian disasters. Until then, I can't take these attempts seriously, it seems dishonest.
@offBeatRock777
@offBeatRock777 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an excellent explanayion
@surikat-q9i
@surikat-q9i 2 жыл бұрын
If Dugin is considered a philosopher, then we must admit as philosophers also Genghis Khan and Attila.
@RuiLuz
@RuiLuz 2 жыл бұрын
It's the most ironic of ironies, he is an anti-intellectual pretending to be an intellectual.
@hristiyanhristov2480
@hristiyanhristov2480 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, always feels good to find people with brain in such atrocities as "Dugin lectures".
@AIainMConnachie
@AIainMConnachie 8 ай бұрын
Drive-by commentary. Don't quit your day jobs
@joannastanden5816
@joannastanden5816 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting especially for right now.
@sandorfintor
@sandorfintor 2 жыл бұрын
Great summary! Really enjoyed it.
@davydacounsellor
@davydacounsellor 2 жыл бұрын
Global market society is correct, the USA is now to the rest of the world, a financial economy, having deindustrialization expects to control the global market place and gain profit from the rest of the world, Dugin is correct to a certain degree, great overture of Dugin's book. Well done, excellent work.
@jvespalin
@jvespalin 2 жыл бұрын
as someone who would still consider myself a member of the "New Left" I still think Dugin's critique of us is fair.
@lachlanmcdonald3016
@lachlanmcdonald3016 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the new left ? How is it different to the old left or current woke left ?
@Lunatic4Bizcas
@Lunatic4Bizcas 2 жыл бұрын
@@lachlanmcdonald3016 : Perhaps it's a misnomer to say 'new left.' I think a more apt description would be alternative left as opposed to the 'establishment left.'
@soggybread5853
@soggybread5853 2 жыл бұрын
@@lachlanmcdonald3016 Basically they’re progressive greens.
@soggybread5853
@soggybread5853 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a leftist and I fully agree with his critique of Marxist communism.
@ethanlorenzo702
@ethanlorenzo702 2 жыл бұрын
@@soggybread5853 I'm confused about his critique of Marxism, I haven't read much Marx only the Manifesto amd Das Kapital, why is his critique of your ideas fair?
@Anabsurdsuggestion
@Anabsurdsuggestion Жыл бұрын
Excellent lecture. He’s less bonkers than neoliberalism, which is sheer lunacy.
@LectionesInterbellum
@LectionesInterbellum 2 жыл бұрын
I hate the fact that people always put fascism and national-socialism on one pile, because it’s two different ideologies. In Italian Fascism ‘race’ didn’t play any serious role at all until the alliance with Nazi-Germany. Also Mussolini stated multiple times in his speeches: “these northern barbarians that couldn’t even read and write while we were already building the colosseum”, so you see that this obviously isn’t in line with Nazi-Germany’s racial hierarchy. In Italian Fascism ‘the State’ was the all encompassing idea, whereas in National-Socialism the state is just the vessel for the content: the Volk, the people (from which the most valuable racial element is to be individualized and brought to a leadership position). Also nazism is a German phenomenon, ‘fascism’ however, people use to describe all kinds of things (often unjustly) causing an indescribable harm to Italy indirectly.
@Jannette-mw7fg
@Jannette-mw7fg Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! This is so helpful!
@danielcryderman7400
@danielcryderman7400 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for saying southwest part of Canada
@abhimanyukarnawat7441
@abhimanyukarnawat7441 3 жыл бұрын
Based Russian Monk.
@davidleahy6141
@davidleahy6141 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to attack Dugin's logic and analysis.
@hristiyanhristov2480
@hristiyanhristov2480 2 жыл бұрын
What? How is it hard to? It's literally rebranded fascism - he does admit he is a fascist and a bolshevik, his party was called "National-Bolshevik". Guys, please, head out of the sand. It's blatant Russian propaganda, this is the guy that whispers in Putin's ear.
@justintabatabai8063
@justintabatabai8063 2 жыл бұрын
Not really, god isn’t real so there’s no logical basis for theology therefore the Orthodox Church nor is Russia in the imperial context a singular race or existence. His own philosophy is built on this contradiction by drawing a contrast between a lack of historical foundation for the Russian people in the past, and then simultaneously claiming one does exist / should exist.
@newglof9558
@newglof9558 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Dugin's rejection of monotonal time reminds me of Derrida's concept of hauntology
@filenailedge4284
@filenailedge4284 4 жыл бұрын
Dugin's metaphysics seems heretical to an Eastern Orthodox perspective. Especially his ideas on the subject "manifesting" time, this he may be aware of because he specifically says the subject doesn't create time... He gives off a New Age and solipsistic vibe, though maybe his exposition in his writing is clearer than this presentation. Something about him just seems off.
@firenuckle98
@firenuckle98 4 жыл бұрын
The most suspect thing he's outright said with no qualification or further explanation is that he believes we must undo the anathemas against Origen and Neoplatonism and establish a new (neo)platonic Academy in the orthodox world, exactly the kind which St Justinian destroyed. Many of his ideas, like you pointed out, manifesting time, noomakhia (dark logos), and his chilliastic eschatology are all sketchy and should raise eyebrows but they're vague enough or qualified in such a way that they aren't immediately called heresy. His belief that we ought to revise an ecumenical Council however, is explicitly heretical. Then again, Dugin is an Old Believer in good standing with his bishop. Given Dugin's high profile and how controversial his beliefs have been in Russia, I find it difficult to believe that his bishop isn't aware of his views. Maybe the English translations lack the nuance of the original but there is still a lot that's problematic are best
@filenailedge4284
@filenailedge4284 4 жыл бұрын
@@firenuckle98 That's definitely worrying. There has been a rise in Origenism lately and that heresy needs to be destroyed... again. It sounds like Dugin needs to go back and read the church fathers, as these arguments are older than he is and have already been refuted.
@christophmahler
@christophmahler 4 жыл бұрын
"Dugin's metaphysics seems heretical to an Eastern Orthodox perspective" That's an interesting point and maybe he never reflected on this while being focused on opposing Westernization. There's 'progress' within the 'divine economy' of eschatology - but unlike liberal modernism which grew out of the Reformation - Christian religion is 'religio', an observance to the bond between man and his origin or 'archai'. A traditionalist believes in a final end of 'history', but not in the reduction of 'nature' into a mere mechanistic _expansion_ of secular civilization. We hope to transform ourselves in order to express the divine image we are constituted in - the purpose of an _apostolic life_ .
@fabbeyonddadancer
@fabbeyonddadancer 4 жыл бұрын
Where can one find in-depth works from an Eastern Orthodoxy perspective that addresses dugins works ?
@ajdinekmescic2638
@ajdinekmescic2638 4 жыл бұрын
I found this on Wikipedia : Since 1999, he formally embraced a branch of the Old Believers, a Russian religious movement which rejected the 1652-1666 reforms of the official Russian Orthodox Church.[58] Dugin's Eurasian philosophy owes much to Traditional Integralism and Nouvelle Droite movements, and as such it resonates with Neopaganism,[59] a category which in this context means the movement of Slavic Native Faith (Rodnovery), especially in the forms of Anastasianism and Ynglism. Dugin's Eurasianism is often cited as belonging to the same spectrum of these movements. - this should shed some light on his religious views
@pichirisu
@pichirisu 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that he uses transcendentalism and specifically Kant basically nullifies literally all of his other beliefs he is trying to use to create a "fourth politics". Like literally arguing against himself. Naive.
@Tulsaistalking
@Tulsaistalking 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah also the highly partial views towards anti individualism
@eg4848
@eg4848 2 жыл бұрын
these kinds of people aren't really consistent. Consistency is key
@vanhamies8512
@vanhamies8512 2 жыл бұрын
Dugin has never convincingly distinguished his political theory from fascism. He claims to be anti-fascist yet his "special Russian truth" is essentially fascist, and he sometimes acknowledges it and sometimes denies it. Unsurprisingly, he inspires KGB/FSB politicians and clergymen, imperialist adventurers, and aggressive isolationists. He wishes to be a foundational philosopher yet will at best be remembered for intellectual mendacity.
@mls_33
@mls_33 2 жыл бұрын
was looking for this comment. it's just rebranded fascism
@hristiyanhristov2480
@hristiyanhristov2480 2 жыл бұрын
He doesn't try to, this guy is basically Goebbels. It's pathetic and shameful that so many people follow him and believe his bullshit. He doesn't try to distinguish himself from fascism - his political party was called "National-Bolsheviks". He is out there calling himself bolshevik and people think this old fart is something new.
@nunoalvarespereira87
@nunoalvarespereira87 Жыл бұрын
Yeah as a Third Positionist I think his theory is merely a flavor of 3P applied to the Russian reality.
@pj_ytmt-123
@pj_ytmt-123 8 ай бұрын
Well, thanks for concisely summarizing such a dense book. Okay, so Aleksandr Dugin is a smart guy; but I stopped paying attention around the 40 min mark where the content delved into time. I did enjoy his analysis on the different ideologies of the 20th century though. So he was basically theorizing about that age old question of _Free Will vs Determinism._ Which can also be framed as _Man's Will vs God's Will._ This question has been resolved by the Church eons ago: it is God's will to give Man free will to choose to worship and love Him; and because God is life, he who sins opposes God and opposes life, and thus reaps the wages of death. That is why all the ideologies he listed out eventually self-destructed; post-/neo-liberalism is on course to do the same, and so too will his "multi-polar, anti-western" coalition a.k.a. Fourth Political Theory because his theory (proposal really) embraces civilization-states that will persecute Christians at the drop of a hat. The only way he can explain that to the Orthodox russian people is by deepening the schism between East and West: to work at further dividing the One Holy Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Church, or at least prevent the schism from ever healing. The Age of the Antichrist is upon us, what has been prophesized must come to pass. Messianic times ahead! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@pj_ytmt-123
@pj_ytmt-123 8 ай бұрын
P.S. There is another way to justify forming strategic alliance with antichrist nations, which is to elevate NATIONALISM above faith (as is happening under Putin).
@ajdinekmescic2638
@ajdinekmescic2638 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video 🙏🏻
@peterbaktay4460
@peterbaktay4460 2 жыл бұрын
poverty for historicism makes a very strange argument against historicism (basically bickering about how to predict the future and why sociology or something like that is better) it's very obvious that he is not going for obvious angles of attack because that would leave him open aswell
@exapplerrelppaxe7952
@exapplerrelppaxe7952 2 жыл бұрын
Under Duggins' system may I own my own property? May I own and operate an independent newspaper? May I home school my children? How would we select political administrators? How would we enact laws? Would the government be allowed to torture detainees? What would our foreign policy be? This isn't politics...it's metaphysical horseplay.
@thegreatpretenderorale9965
@thegreatpretenderorale9965 2 жыл бұрын
that's because Western and Russian perspectives are different to begin with. You have all the answers on those questions in Dugin's work, just not directly yet through the basket of common ideas among Orthodox/Slav people.
@redmatters9318
@redmatters9318 2 жыл бұрын
METAPHYSICAL horseplay and lots of puff from the magic dragon. Nice comment mate. G'day from Australia 🇦🇺 ,:)
@newglof9558
@newglof9558 2 жыл бұрын
"Under Dugin's system, can I be liberal? Can I? Huh? Can I be liberal? Please? Pfft, metaphysical horseplay."
@hathwayh3209
@hathwayh3209 2 жыл бұрын
Great channel, honestly you'll probs mot ever have the biggest channel due to the nature of the world. However, you're providing some of the greatest content with emphatic detail.
@eastelamonius4001
@eastelamonius4001 6 ай бұрын
As soon this guy Said "DUGIN IS ANTI WESTERN" I STOPED. PEOPLE YOU TAKE IN WORDS FROM DUGIN HIMSELF. PRESENTATIONS LIKE THIS ARE PROBABLY DELIBERATELY MISLEADING.
@AhmedOmar-ul6wc
@AhmedOmar-ul6wc 2 жыл бұрын
i think i agree with dugin
@philyogaeveryday321
@philyogaeveryday321 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, thank you!
@mundaneallaround
@mundaneallaround 4 жыл бұрын
Love that you introduce so many different thinkers that are not commonly known. Chad, would you ever consider having a discord channel for people to share ideas with others who may be like minded polymaths?
@grimsithe
@grimsithe 4 жыл бұрын
There is a discord for patrons if you join the patreon
@mundaneallaround
@mundaneallaround 4 жыл бұрын
@@grimsithe oh very cool. Thank you for the info!
@Denver_Thug
@Denver_Thug 2 жыл бұрын
Great video bro, love this
@WattisWatts
@WattisWatts Жыл бұрын
So, is the USA and Russia fighting a war out of the Frankfurt School?
@unskilledlabor1
@unskilledlabor1 4 жыл бұрын
Who actually believes that anti-Slav racialist sentiment was the driving force behind German military aggression against Soviet Russia, and not strategic military inevitability?
@filenailedge4284
@filenailedge4284 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. To add to that, he should really read the work of Antony Sutton to better understand the communist vs. capitalist dialectic.
@vikare7849
@vikare7849 4 жыл бұрын
Totally incorrect. and Generalplan Ost has been debunked... no doubt there were certain attitudes among certain soldiers that may have been "bigoted" but overall that wasn't the motivation. Even in so far as there was negative attitudes towards slavs, had the national socialists won the war i suspect those attitudes would slowly go away as germans interact with slavs more and see they're not that different. +H talked about how much he came to like Poland towards the end of the war, how he thought a state with them and germans together would be very beneficial.
@vikare7849
@vikare7849 4 жыл бұрын
@@woah3870 Idk how i can share it with you considering its an image i have saved (and we know anything contradictory to the official narrative will be near impossible to find on google) but i have a document which is in polish in which hitler is referenced directly in letters recovered in which he says "Poles are the most intelligent and loyal group we have encountered in this war (meaning loyal to their people) and a future society with Poles and Germans together would be most beneficial". Maybe could share it to imgur or something... this is only one piece of evidence, i know some people who are working to translate original documents and primary sources from eastern europe and there's more than enough evidence to show that Generalplan Ost is propaganda/untrue. Likely for the purpose of further dividing European peoples who are almost completely the same aside from some cultural and religious differences, historical grievances are the easiest way to achieve that goal.
@vikare7849
@vikare7849 4 жыл бұрын
@@woah3870 It's in Polish though imgur.com/a/q0q3Ul9
@christophmahler
@christophmahler 4 жыл бұрын
"Who actually believes that anti-Slav racialist sentiment was the driving force behind German military aggression (...)" Nazis - to this day.
@laurencedowding1780
@laurencedowding1780 2 жыл бұрын
Great lecture!
@ALLHEART_
@ALLHEART_ 2 жыл бұрын
12:00 I'm not sure James Burnham is a neocon. He's more of a paleocon, no?
@j3red321
@j3red321 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I have looked at Aleksandr Dugin’s talks before and this was helpful as well. What always comes to me is his inability to actually understand the benefits of liberalism in the classical sense and its own self correcting nature due to its openness. Also I believe he truly fails to differentiate his own ideology from fascism. It appears to me that Dugin, as a Russian, tries to be clarify that he is not a fascist due to Russia’s history with fighting Nazism, but in reality he is a fascist and just tries to create a new version of it to make it more palatable for what he perceives to be society. He is a man stuck between his hatred of America and therefore the values we try to live by, even when we sometimes fail, and his own innate morality. His ideology is even more convoluted and illogical than nationalist communist parties.
@jankragt7789
@jankragt7789 2 жыл бұрын
Have you notice aggressive totalitarian Woke leftism? Try again.
@dom4034
@dom4034 2 жыл бұрын
@@jankragt7789 'aggressive totalitarian Woke leftisM' Good gravy....
@chiukid
@chiukid 2 жыл бұрын
I never heard anyone think about time the same way as myself before. God exists outside time and the past, present, and future is happening all at the same time for him. I'm still chewing on a lot of these things.
@csk4j
@csk4j 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing commentary
@michaeldunn8972
@michaeldunn8972 4 жыл бұрын
If Hitler was a Slav rather than a German Aleksandr Dugin would have been a big fan.
@christophmahler
@christophmahler 4 жыл бұрын
"If Hitler was a Slav rather than a German Aleksandr Dugin would have been a big fan." If Jews were 'Aryans', Hitler would have commended their mercantile skill, outdoing the Romans - and if Arabs were Jews, the state of Israel would be a great power. What's the point of such statements when _national identity exists_ ?
@allahpartyinfo652
@allahpartyinfo652 4 жыл бұрын
hey man, he only tries to copy hitler and national socialist germany and make it a fake agenda, infact fourth political theory is fascism in another form!
@christophmahler
@christophmahler 4 жыл бұрын
@@allahpartyinfo652 "(...) he only tries to copy hitler (...)" So what does the 'Allah Party' think why Dugin isn't simply promoting 'fascism' like Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a successful member of the Duma - instead of criticism German fascism for it's _Darwinism_ ?...
@allahpartyinfo652
@allahpartyinfo652 4 жыл бұрын
@@christophmahler coz u know bro, dugin is part of the antithesis, it seems u dont know anything about the synthesis of the upcoming *false messiah* from antarctica with *ufos* !
@christophmahler
@christophmahler 4 жыл бұрын
@@allahpartyinfo652 "(...) ufos !" Of course... May God have mercy on Your soul.
@bettermentprojectnotes808
@bettermentprojectnotes808 2 жыл бұрын
This has interesting current event resonances.
@torbenzenth5615
@torbenzenth5615 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, thank you
@ideealhd2042
@ideealhd2042 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video 🙏
@kahhowong3417
@kahhowong3417 11 ай бұрын
Dugin Brilliant, Enlightening to Darkness in the modern Industrialised World
@nazaren45
@nazaren45 4 жыл бұрын
Не ожидав на англском видео про дугина
@Pllayer064
@Pllayer064 2 жыл бұрын
Слишком злодейский персонаж, чтобы его игнорировать.
@davydacounsellor
@davydacounsellor 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of people read Dugin I found the forth political theory a philosophical view of the world, my take away from the book was there is a difference between the west and east, one point I felt was as we in the west could always jump on a boat and move away from aggression and war, like here in Ireland, but the east land people would have to work and think harder before aggression and war. Land people neighbors are close and you just can't jump on a boat and run away. So the east does produce deep thinking philosophers.
@bokkenrijder172
@bokkenrijder172 8 ай бұрын
FYI: the “V” in “Volk” is pronounced as an “F” in German.
@tubodd
@tubodd 3 жыл бұрын
The hyperborean nightmare... An empire ruled by a mafia system, like present Russia, would be intriguing to say the least...
@ryancannella6386
@ryancannella6386 3 жыл бұрын
wow. thank you so much. I see our Global liberal democracy turning into a Technopoly. the end of time for sure
@rodrigoferreira9527
@rodrigoferreira9527 3 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you wanna believe in this?I mean...“end of times”,what times anyway?
@ryancannella6386
@ryancannella6386 3 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigoferreira9527 the end of what was left of our republic for sure. the end of any type of illusion of freedom. total slavery
@rodrigoferreira9527
@rodrigoferreira9527 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryancannella6386 holy s$&#@ man...what a f$#@. Slaves for whom?...
@ryancannella6386
@ryancannella6386 3 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigoferreira9527 well that's a good question.. much speculation about who or which group is at the top of the pyramid. jesuits, zionists, freemasons, committee of 300. more likely what I think. is we will be slaves to Artificial Intelligence
@rodrigoferreira9527
@rodrigoferreira9527 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryancannella6386 I don’t work with speculation,though I consider these kinds of possibilities out of the academical campus. The egipcians arians are behind of this hierarchical society,in my personal opinion.
@bluemethetys9267
@bluemethetys9267 4 жыл бұрын
TLDR: Dugin offers a perhaps renewed focus on the ethnos, but how that affects your political stance empirically, in what you do, should be put under a lot of scrutiny. Focusing on ethnos is only one step away from fascism or nazism, both distinctly bad for their complete dehumanization of what they view as "enemies". I'm not bold enough to criticize Dugin on philosophical grounds but at least on an empirical level: is an ethnocentrist position really any more emancipatory than notions of individualism? Is "authenticity" possible or strivable towards, and not just a postmodern construction of the worst kind? To anyone who chooses to read Dugin: please engage with his work either critically or in an otherwise pessimistic way. "Critical or pessimistic way" may come off as a coded way of saying "adhere to Capitalism Realism", but I reject this. There is great emancipatory potential, proportional to the dominance of Capitalism Realism. Simply, don't be naive.
@christophmahler
@christophmahler 4 жыл бұрын
When You say _'emancipatory'_ and _'individualistic'_ , You are arguing from a _modernist_ perspective (e.g. 'Anarchism' in it's widest sense) - which may produce legitimate criticism of _traditional_ societies, but is foremost a _political ideology_ , itself. The best You can do is likely to compare these _opposing_ views.
@SoNonWoo
@SoNonWoo 2 жыл бұрын
Little notes on pronunciation: The v in volk is an f The s in da Sein is a z.
@TarikM
@TarikM 2 жыл бұрын
His critique on the monotonic concept of time reminds me of Kierkegaards critique on the ‘abstract’ relation to/concept of time. He opposed an empty abstraction of time, with a random, abstract demarcation of past/present/future and proposed a fullness of time, authentic time with meaning (God), defined/led by intuition (God). But his concepts are all about the individual and its relationship to God.
@kahhowong3417
@kahhowong3417 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant, Nuance not lost in Translation
@neurostory1988
@neurostory1988 10 ай бұрын
Baza & Goida
@mohammedzulk8485
@mohammedzulk8485 3 ай бұрын
Americanism is great for those that had their dream come true.
@jankragt7789
@jankragt7789 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very well presented.
@thee-wastegamer4044
@thee-wastegamer4044 4 жыл бұрын
Great lecture Really just seems like Dugin is trying to answer the dilemma of objet petit a. For my money he underplays the significance of capitalism's affect on temporality as a whole.
@ajdinekmescic2638
@ajdinekmescic2638 4 жыл бұрын
Dugin is influenced by Alain de Benoist who wrote a lot about the problems of capitalism and modernity in his book Manifesto for a European Renaissance
@thee-wastegamer4044
@thee-wastegamer4044 4 жыл бұрын
@@ajdinekmescic2638 i mean more so from the Deleuzean, ie Nick Land perspective. Only albeit
@harveyyoung3423
@harveyyoung3423 2 жыл бұрын
Part 1 I think i have come across Dugin some years ago but forgotten, so thank you for the post. For an historical introduction to Russian Philosophy i would recommend Fredrick Copleston's "Russian Philosophy" the last volume of about 10 volumes on the History of Western Philosophy. For a specific point here I refer to the section "What can we glean from Modernist Ideologies?" and your last point about freedom and Dasein. i have not read Dugin but i think it concerns the implicit debate on freedom between Sartre and Heidegger. Sartre delivered a lecture called "Existentialism is a Humanism" (1940s i think). A student of Heidegger wrote to him about this and Heidegger wrote "Letter on Humanism" as a critical response to Sartre's notion of freedom and the human being and a exposition of how he understood the "relationship" of freedom and Dasein. It is extremely difficult, even with a background in "Being and Time". As i recall Heidegger was at pains to claim freedom is not a "property of the(a) human being" rather freedom is constitutive of human being or Dasein. This does open up the possibility of multiple times in Dasein's the uptake of time in freedom. This is obviously incongruent to any singe dimension of time either forward from the past or particularly teleologically towards some end. Thus a teleological notion of progress as in Aristotle is rejected. It seems also that Sartre held that the rejection of Aristotle just involved a rejection of man as a tool with a fixed purpose and end. Thus, I think, while Sartre can be accommodated to a liberal individualism against a collective telos, for Heidegger there is a much closer link to Aristotle possibly later though his work on Kant, inspired by Arendt, after Being and Time but before "The Letter on Humanism". Probably need to read "Essence of Truth" and "Essence of Ground" with Letter on Humanism. Thankfully there are now several guides to this work generally titled "The Later Heidegger ". More contemporary there is the debate between Chomsky and Foucault from 1970's on you tube. Chomsky is defending a position like liberal freedom, against Foucault who thinks freedom is historical and changes with epochs and their notion and understanding of man from within those epochs. But the later Foucault seems open to the notion of freedom in the emerging neoliberalism of the 1980's particularly the work of Gary Becker who he lectured on in early 1980's just before his death. its funny that non of the liberal left, many of whom draw heavily on Foucault work, have no idea that Foucault saw in neo liberal freedom, possibilities, at that moment for an affordedness against the hegemonic technological bio-state.
@casteretpollux
@casteretpollux 2 жыл бұрын
Frankly doesn't Darwinism / understanding of evolution display most of that?
@harveyyoung3423
@harveyyoung3423 2 жыл бұрын
​@@casteretpollux That is an interesting point. it implies though that the mechanism, if you will, of evolution in "creating" or being open in incremental change, within a given moment in time, accounts for (captures?) the notion of a possibility space, IN THE SAME WAY, that say human understanding in openness to the world as in a context situated cognitive openness accounts for action possibilities. This takes the problem into the area of debates form 19th and 20th century, say between an evolutionary naturalism and historical or hermeneutic understating in the philosophy of history. This debate frames a evolutionary mechanism as determined, contrasted with human action in a context which implies agency and human understanding of possibility as affordances say. This can be tracked as the old problem of determinism and freedom, history as governed by universal laws of change verses human action which has a cognitive understanding of affordance and can be free not just to different choices but can change the possibility frame of choice its self, and so change the space of possible choices. In philosophy of history we could and do compare both say Marxist materialism and the free market "survival of the fittest" model. both involve incremental change of quantity which can change quality (Hegel), both involve notions of progress and a changing possibility space, but agents in both are mostly understood as determined by these laws as they bear in on the context. alternatively an hermeneutic approach says we cannot understand history and event without taking as central the agent and their knowledge and context for action their "reasons for actions" as opposed to an external to the agent scientific account of reason which to make an account has to reduce the agent reason to its own vocabulary or eliminate it form the account. This is debated in a modern context between say C. G. Hempel's account of historical determinism as events placed deductively under laws (nomologically), and criticisms by first Peter Winch and G.H. von Wright and Donald Davidson. what begins to emerge here is that there are incompatible semantic spaces here, the space of reason as nomological and the space of reasons as justifications by actual agents being their. (See John McDowell Mind and World for more contemporary version of the problem. in terms of naturalism v normativity. the notion of a space of reason is from W. Sellars who was at Chicago with Hemple for a while). The late 20th century left continental traditions on this problem wanted to escape from Marxist determinism to give an account of real human action that could create or avail themselves of different possibilities, Marx view of determined history (and so agent passivity) being replaced by clever revolutionary action in context laden events. in this context such notions of possibility and change are central say to Derrida, Foucault and Deleuze. My interest is in the double notions of "possibility space" being employed here. this i frame following from one of my supervisors on Foucault on historical a priori and Deleuze possibility in imagination for comparison with Sellars on error. it becomes clear that these are different space when we consider the radically different possibilities of error open in these spaces, which shows them incongruent. The consequence is that past events cannot be radically really thought radically otherwise, when we make the situation we are in as possibility space. if where we are is the consequence of genuine past radical anomic changes in the possibility space then imagining that event as otherwise is semantically incorrect if we must express our actions and explanations in terms of the semantic framed possibilities now. this then means talk of the past being different could have been otherwise is a very narrow uptake now compared to what was possible then. this means moves and arguments day about retroactive justice and compensation are deeply semantically misguided. people subject to this error tend to think an agent in the past has a choice in the same way an agent has choice now choices in the present and so can be evaluated by current standards. in fact we had better think of agent context of aesthetic judgement, not choice. Its my overly intellectual version of one of those time travel paradox movies like original "Planet of the Apes" and "Continuum". now for evolutionary explanation, it would translate to "thinking" an evolutionary event of change in the past can be kind of "rerun" with a different outcome. Someone might even think that in a laboratory they can do genetic engineering and make possible organisms now that evolution did not take up-advantage in the past. not just getting the dinosaurs back but creatures that never were, into the present. Evolution is regulated by difference between a creature and its environment. the ontology of a creature for evolution is difficult since its being form this point of view is not in itself but in relation to other creatures and environments. This appears to be the same as say thinking an agent in a situation is in relation not an ontology, but the space of agent reasons is a semantic world with an "ontology" drawn though and within a semantic "field" and those reasons are impossible to understand without notions of agent ontology as freedom and importantly authority authorship and responsibility. the space of evolution has no responsibility only relations while the space of judgment must necessarily turn on agents and responsibilities. for me different notions of error are key to recognitions of different spaces and purposes. Incidentally my radical Darwinists naturalist friend tells me that Darwin got the theory form Adam Smith. so when say Thatcher and Regan used Darwin's vocabulary as justification for free market economics it wasn't the mere rhetorical move critics said it was. No easy answer to your proposal but I hope this was of interest. Thank for your comment.
@harveyyoung3423
@harveyyoung3423 2 жыл бұрын
p.s can you talk of "error" in evolution or in free market economics. What could "correct" and error even mean without a standard imposed from the past or the future? to paraphrase Wittgenstein it is only with respect to humans that we can talk about error, the conflation is a bad incongruent mixed metaphor.
@harveyyoung3423
@harveyyoung3423 2 жыл бұрын
p.p.s. In the free market we have a space of the illegal "contract". where would such a space exist in evolution. two different conceptions of "law".
@harveyyoung3423
@harveyyoung3423 2 жыл бұрын
p.p.p.s. in common talk, people make metaphors between two objects and events. M is like T. this can be seen as mere subjective association and rhetoric the similarity between the "surfaces" of two images. Now law was meant to both curb the subjective association or even in 20th century remove metaphor altogether. the idea is we can replace the metaphor with laws, but then the laws mediate between two events . the laws do this through general terms and rules. what's interesting is that the problem now of subjectivity becomes the problem of interpretation of the laws general terms and rules. it reopen the problem of the normativity of law in a new dimension of normative and error and subjective law, president, case and rule. behi9nd the surface grammar though is the cosmology of laws so its not the problem people think it is, its a different problem.
@armandosalinas5946
@armandosalinas5946 7 ай бұрын
We are at acrossroad,but the indivitual must prevail,with a collective goal...
@kahhowong3417
@kahhowong3417 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct.
@jessedustin160
@jessedustin160 4 жыл бұрын
Alexander Dugin and Alain de Benoist are shaping the future... In a positive way...
@Aaron-bd9sj
@Aaron-bd9sj 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@alexfortunelli7268
@alexfortunelli7268 2 жыл бұрын
@@Luke-eg1gn exactly. To hell with both American dominated liberalism and neo Bolshevism .
@hristiyanhristov2480
@hristiyanhristov2480 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexfortunelli7268 Yeah, Russian totalitarism - best totalitarism. Guys, how can you be blind that this is basically Goebbels speaking?
@hristiyanhristov2480
@hristiyanhristov2480 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexfortunelli7268 To add to my comment, do you know how Dugin's political party was called? National-Bolsheviks.
@issalamence
@issalamence 2 жыл бұрын
Great research 👍
@Merlinkhoo1959
@Merlinkhoo1959 8 ай бұрын
Can someone explain and summarize the gist of this in ordinary layman language without jargon in one page?? It’s v confusing.
@JanEkbom
@JanEkbom 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining Dugin in a clear and structured way. Do you know anything more about the dividual that you mentioned? I only heard it before from the Swedish philosopher Alexander Bard who is a Nietzschean-Hegelian-Liberal-Marxist. I find the ideas of Alexander Dugin interesting but wonder what you think about practicing parts of that individually, since I live in a social-liberal society and it's not possible to take in the whole concept because of that.
@tyemich8820
@tyemich8820 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't read Dugin, but I've watched his ten-hour long lecture on liberalism, and here's how I remember his take on the individual falling apart. He claims that with progress, humans will get more brain augmenting implants and gene modifications on one hand and become more connected with neural interfaces (sharing thoughts, like in the Avatar movie) on the other, that the boundaries of the personality will stop making any sense. Why he thinks that it should cause the individual to fall into smaller pieces (some analogy of grey goo) rather than become some sort of godlike superhuman, is beyond me. Guess it's just the sort of values he chooses to adhere to as an Old-Rite Eastern Orthodox Christian fundamentalist. I'm thinking that if you asked him, he'd say something along the lines of "God wanted it that way in the Bible" or "we invent fire, we be playing God". His ideas about multipolarity and preserving independent cultures are pretty cool though
@Stoigniew666
@Stoigniew666 2 жыл бұрын
@@tyemich8820 A lot of people seem to hear about Dugin, but not about Alain de Benoist which talks similiar things but he did it earlier.
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